1. These are the arguments against the memebership. One may disagree, but it's interesting.

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    (Anita Bay, 17 April 2016 13:15)

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  2. Want to make a bet? LOL. NATO is ruled by the United States of Piss and Wind, the greatest loudmouth on this planet, which does nothing when push comes to shove. The Turks attempted to bring NATO into the Syria conflict with downing of the Russian jet at the Windbags nudging, but sadly NATO members were very cool on that idea LOL, made the Turks look stupid.
    Then we have the disputed islands in the South China sea where the resident Windbag sent in a war ship (a very funny story but not enough room to tell) followed up by threats of more such actions. When the Chinese positioned surface-to-air missile batteries the Windbags folded like a cheap suite and want dialogue LOL.
    (sj, 18 February 2016 10:35)

    Let's thank the CE of B92 forums sj for tirelessly working to build this marvelous reality described above. I advice all the members of these forums and the entire world to join this reality, like I have done. It's truly marvelous!

    P.S. CE = Chief Economist
    (icj1, 19 February 2016 16:08)

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  3. Serbs need to overthrow Vucic - or at least strongly and persistently protest this puppet. He is a bald-faced liar, lies just like NATO. He is more interested in pleasing foreign governments and foreigners than Serbs. He is cheating Serbs continually. Serbs are disenfranchised in their own country.
    (ida, 18 February 2016 23:33)

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  4. (Serbian Crusher, 17 February 2016 18:55)

    Which neighbours are they? Albania, Kosova, Romania Bulgaria or Hungary? Or do you you mean all the other former eastern-block countries?
    Perhaps you might spend time travelling in those free countries and see that wonderful freedom where Poland has over 2 million of its citizens either working or looking for work in the EU. Yes EU paradise has not yet reached Poland.
    Is it Hungary? Where standard of living is exactly the same as in Serbia and they have had freedom and have been part of the EU for a while or perhaps its Bulgaria or Romania where they have worse living standards than Serbia.
    Oh I know its Croatia where all the sites claim that the average wage is 700 Euros per month, but in fact its the same as in Serbia i.e 250/300 Euros.
    Stop it or you will go blind. Next time use a more suitable pen name such as Albanian arsehole.
    (sj, 18 February 2016 13:22)

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  5. Tiny Montenegro used to be under the Serbian boots and now is an independent and free country which commands respect from many of the same countries that Serbia wishes it had. Serbia plays checkers while the world plays chess.

    I wouldn't have or want it any other way:)
    (Serbian Crusher, 17 February 2016 18:55) # Co

    Is respect meaning "getting heavily in debt and depending on the EU", as well not dealing with Asian,Arab and Russian countries for business,and friendship!.For you it's time to grow up,and stop wishing (on Serbia) ,and seeing what's really is happening in Serbia!.
    P's I want be commenting or replying to your silly ,childish comment's.
    (sasa.p, 18 February 2016 12:59)

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  6. sasa p,
    Stop fooling yourself, Serbs won't be allowed to vote on a referendum. NATO will be shoved down your throats by your leadership. Talking tough has never got the Serbs anywhere and neither has war. It might be wise for Serbs to try a different tack. Perhaps, try behaving in a civilized manner, it's amazing the positive response you will receive.
    (EU Citizen, 18 February 2016 00:26)

    To EU Resident (more likely),
    I laugh out loud,at these silly comment's!. I live and travel thru Serbia and Balkans constantly!. I have close family living and owning their own business in Croatia, Macedonia,Slovenia ,Greece,and Montenegro .You people commenting,writing and living in the Western countries are in dissolution,about the event's happening in the Balkan's, let alone giving Bullsh*t opion's on Serbian event's (joining NATO ,or Russia,)and politic's!!!.
    You Shqipire ,Bosnjaci and Hrvati ,don't know what the hell is happening in Serbian politic's!.Keep talking like a little child ,EU Resident !.
    P'S ,I don't talk tough ,but the fact's, as l see it happening before my eye's in Belgrade and the rest of the Balkan's!.
    (sasa.p, 18 February 2016 12:35)

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  7. (EU Citizen, 18 February 2016 00:26)

    Want to make a bet? LOL. NATO is ruled by the United States of Piss and Wind, the greatest loudmouth on this planet, which does nothing when push comes to shove. The Turks attempted to bring NATO into the Syria conflict with downing of the Russian jet at the Windbags nudging, but sadly NATO members were very cool on that idea LOL, made the Turks look stupid.
    Then we have the disputed islands in the South China sea where the resident Windbag sent in a war ship (a very funny story but not enough room to tell) followed up by threats of more such actions. When the Chinese positioned surface-to-air missile batteries the Windbags folded like a cheap suite and want dialogue LOL.
    NATO, LOL, what a useless organisation and you think Serbia will join.
    When will NATO or EU or anyone in the west pay to clean up he depleted uranium they left in Kosovo????
    To behave in a civilised manner you need an adversary that is civilised but Albanians and Croats are not.
    (sj, 18 February 2016 10:35)

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  8. Love that these Albanians, they get all excited over a newspaper article. You can see they are so please that something is going their way and some have even lost control of their bowl movements and need a change of pants, LOL.
    Serbia to join NATO? NEVER; little Albos take note, NEVER going to happen. Its a ruse. Little Djukanovic opened his trap about joining NATO and his seat began sway now the little man is very quiet otherwise Montenegro will get a new president for life.
    There is even less work for the Russians in dismantling any government in Serbia which thinks its going to side up to NATO. On that issue of recognising Kosovo and joining NATO as a precondition to Serbia joining the EU; another great disappointment for our little Albos. Agreement after agreement was signed by Serbia with the EU and at every stage our little Albos chanted no recognition of Kosovo no signing agreement. So what happened? All agreements were signed.
    Little Albos save yourselves a dry cleaning bill and dont believe everything you read in newspapers. If the west could not force Serbia to kneel in 1999 and recognise Kosovo, 2016 is a place too far away from the ideal. Who is going to force them? The United Sates of Piss and Wind? LOL. Dont hold your breath waiting LOL. Piss and Wind has its hands full in Syria and even with the Turks, Saudis and UAE they could not win an arse kicking contest when competing against a one legged man.
    (sj, 18 February 2016 08:27)

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  9. Russia is a cancer they never bringt nothing good ,

    + Turks are more beautifull and better skin colour than Russians
    (adrian_bucharest, 17 February 2016 13:30)

    It seems our little friend Adrian is a Rom. Please note his preference for a swarthy skin tone. This certainly explains why he appears to be unaware of the most basic knowledge. It makes him sound like a ten year old. Poor Adrian!
    (EU Citizen, 18 February 2016 01:20)

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  10. At least Serbia doesn't have to pay part of the bill whenever America wants to drop a few megatons of freedom on an unsuspecting state.
    (the actual truth, 17 February 2016 20:16)

    the actual truth,
    AU contraire mon ami, I'm afraid Serbia paid a terrible price by backing Milosevic. America turned Serbia into a waste land. Apparently, you were not yet born at the time of the Kosova war in 1999. Serbia is still paying for Milosevic's sins.
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  11. Serbia will need to vote on this,we aren't Montenegrin's (not to vote,Milo's way)
    (sasa.p, 17 February 2016 19:00)


    sasa p,
    Stop fooling yourself, Serbs won't be allowed to vote on a referendum. NATO will be shoved down your throats by your leadership. Talking tough has never got the Serbs anywhere and neither has war. It might be wise for Serbs to try a different tack. Perhaps, try behaving in a civilized manner, it's amazing the positive response you will receive.
    (EU Citizen, 18 February 2016 00:26)

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  12. To Theador Muzaka,
    This is your country's main motto,in Wikipedia, and elderly people from your race quote it always.

    Motto: Ti Shqipri, m jep nder, m jep emrin Shqiptar
    You Albania, give me honour, give me the name Albanian
    I am sorry you don't know your own history. Check with Wikipedia , encyclopedia, and with your very elderly people .
    (sasa.p, 18 February 2016 00:09)

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  13. To Theodor Muzaka ,
    I am only calling you Shqitare, what your race was called by your people before England gave you the name Albania in 1913.
    I am sorry, you don't know your OWN history,Below is what you get when you put either Albania or Shqitare in Wikipedia!
    If you don't believe me ,check it your self in Wikipedia, or ask elderly people from background country.
    I look forward for your response.

    Albania (Listeni/ælˈbeɪniə/, al-BAY-nee-ə, or sometimes /ɔːlˈbeɪniə/, awl-BAY-nee-ə; Albanian: Shqipri/Shqipria; Gheg Albanian: Shqipni/Shqipnia, Shqypni/Shqypnia[6]), officially known as the Republic of Albania (Albanian: Republika e Shqipris; Albanian pronunciation: [ɾɛpuˈblika ɛ ʃcipəˈɾiːs]), is a country in Southeastern Europe.u
    Albania (Listeni/ælˈbeɪniə/, al-BAY-nee-ə, or sometimes /ɔːlˈbeɪniə/, awl-BAY-nee-ə; Albanian: Shqipri/Shqipria; Gheg Albanian: Shqipni/Shqipnia, Shqypni/Shqypnia[6]), officially known as the Republic of Albania (Albanian: Republika e Shqipris; Albanian pronunciation: [ɾɛpuˈblika ɛ ʃcipəˈɾiːs]), is a country in Southeastern Europe.
    (sasa.p, 17 February 2016 23:59)

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  14. Iraq.
    … The invasion was of the God of the Bible, the KJV, whose name is YHWH, or JEHOVAH, the only God, who prophesied in Jeremiah 50 and 51, that Babylon shall never be rebuilt. especially, chapter 50, verse 39and 40; and 51:26,62. This is what Sadam had started to do.
    … 50:39,Therefore the wild creatures of the desert with the wild creatures of the islands shall dwell there and the owls shall dwell therein: it shall no more be inhabited for ever; neither shall it be dwelt in from age to age.
    (joseph, 17 February 2016 23:06)

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  15. Serbia will forever be dangling in the wind between the West and East. Never to achieve then advancement of their neighbors.
    (Serbian Crusher, 17 February 2016 18:55)

    Because Serbia's neighbors are doing so much better? They're all poor, broke, and one paycheck away from bankruptcy. At least Serbia doesn't have to pay part of the bill whenever America wants to drop a few megatons of freedom on an unsuspecting state.
    (the actual truth, 17 February 2016 20:16)

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  16. P'S relax ,Count,Rocky and Gijon and the Shqipire gang,we Serbia will need to vote on this,we aren't Montenegrin's (not to vote,Milo's way)
    (sasa.p, 17 February 2016 19:00)

    Can you please don't call Albanians "Shqipire"?
    Can you discuss things without using derogatory names?
    Otherwise I will call you "shkije" or if you are Russian "muzhik"
    (Teodor Muzaka 1389, 17 February 2016 20:16)

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  17. weird article.

    It cites radicals and seselj as "serbias opposition". While technically correct, he's talking about 2% of the electorate.

    Also strange that he complains that NIS employees didn't get special status, basically admitting that NIS is a tool of Russian imperialism.
    (Danilo, 17 February 2016 17:14)

    The first time ,I agree with you Danilo.
    This article is incorrect, 50℅ of the people don't want to join any military pact ,with NATO or Russia.
    20% may like to join NATO , and 30% with Russia !.So this is a Weird or propaganda article since the election's are coming.
    P'S relax ,Count,Rocky and Gijon and the Shqipire gang,we Serbia will need to vote on this,we aren't Montenegrin's (not to vote,Milo's way)
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  18. So much discussion so little reality. Serbia will NEVER join NATO not because they will chose to not join, but because NATO member states know that Serbia cannot be trusted. Serbia will sign all kinds of documents to get closer to the EU and NATO but none will be a formal admittance. Serbia will forever be dangling in the wind between the West and East. Never to achieve then advancement of their neighbors. Tiny Montenegro used to be under the Serbian boots and now is an independent and free country which commands respect from many of the same countries that Serbia wishes it had. Serbia plays checkers while the world plays chess.

    I wouldn't have or want it any other way:)
    (Serbian Crusher, 17 February 2016 18:55)

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    cry me a river : Are you saying that Russians, Serbs and Turks are brothers?

    Of course not today we are rivals. But before 18 century the Ottomans in a great degree were an Orthodox Slavic empire ruled by the Slavic Sultans. They prayed and were buried in St.Irines Church inside their castle in Istanbul. Slavic and north Caucasian component in the Turkish genomes are as big as the Turkic one and you can see it in their appearance. As well as the Russians Serbs made the elite of the empire for centuries because before 17 century Serbs and Russians were one people that spoke one language known in Russia as сербский извод церковно-славянского языка = Serbian version of the church-Slavonic language. So we are not Turks but the Turks partly are of us the Russians and us the Serbs and us the Cherkess Caucasians. Before 19 century Ottomans were one of the best places to live for the Orthodox for the Jews and for every other people. But then came the Brits and spoiled everything. Armenians and the Greeks and the Slavonic Janissaries were massacred ect. But it started only in the 19 century while most of the things in your history books are simple manipulation. Yet today we are rivals and seems that Russia will add fuel to help Turkey disintegrate.

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  20. weird article.

    It cites radicals and seselj as "serbias opposition". While technically correct, he's talking about 2% of the electorate.

    Also strange that he complains that NIS employees didn't get special status, basically admitting that NIS is a tool of Russian imperialism.
    (Danilo, 17 February 2016 17:14)

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  21. @rote,

    I am not pro-Nato by any means. I am anti-American/EU at heart. However, even recently when Serbia was to purchase modern weapons from Russia it came down to what Serbia could afford and not how to best equip Serbia. They are going to purchase the minimum required. The S-300 will not be sold nor the state of the art weaponry. Why? Because Russia is being short sighted and looking out after its financial interests. In the long run should Serbia join Nato, those financial interests that Russia sought to save will mean nothing. Russia has abandoned a lot of its allies, i.e. Iraq, Cuba, Libya, etc. The US would never do that. If Russia would have shown its teeth in the past like it is doing now in Syria, the world would be a much better place. In my opinion, Cuba was the most strategic place on the planet for Russia. They were pointing their nukes right next door to the US. And look at what they did? It's the Gorbachovs and the Yeltsins that took Russia down and Putin could be doing more for its "allies".
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  22. Allowing NATO unrestricted access to Serbian territory and giving them immunity was part of Albright's 1999 offer that Milosevic could not accept, remember?
    (Joe A, 17 February 2016 17:08)

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  23. The fact that Serbia must join NATO before ever being considered for EU membership is nothing new. jugoslavija, etc, will continue to remain in denial. We need not wait long to hear their shrill voices frantically countering my comments.
    (The Count of Kosova, 17 February 2016 13:24)

    Who is in denial? NATO membership will be on the table if and when Serbia joins the EU. Do you think visits by Joseph Biden and John McCain recently was a courtesy visit!! They have been Chairmen of the foreign arms committee in the US for years.

    The cons far outweigh the pros for a Country like Serbia to join the EU. The upcoming elections should be a referendum on the EU.
    (jugoslavija, 17 February 2016 17:05)

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  24. Ivan

    It was a poor comment as Russia was an occupied country with Russian Dindic at the helm. So do not judge us so strict. Enough is that we cannot forgive ourselves for being so helpless. Trust me that Russia still feels responsible for everything that have happened to Serbia and Montenegro. Just chose your chair to give us a chance to improve it. Serbia is the only place where despite everything the Russian spirit has survived through centuries.
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  25. Nice clickbait article, knowing Kommersant considers the Protocols of the Elders of Zion to be a frequent source of information.

    But hey, on the off-chance Serbia does join NATO for thirty pieces of silver or whatever the asking price at the crossroads is, they can join KFOR platoons in Kosovo. Win-win for everyone.
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  26. This is a huge mistake on Serbia's part and to some degree Russia is to blame itself. Russia's mistake originated during the Kosovo war when the Russians forfeited the airport. That, in my opinion, was the turning point. Had the Russians remained in Kosovo, I don't believe we would be witnessing the current events. I understand that Yeltsin was in power and yielded to the US however, this could have been rectified afterwards. The difference between being an ally of the US and Russia is that the US will go to bat for their allies whereas the Russians had a saying that, "we can't be more Serbs than the Serbs themselves? Meaning we will not go to bat for you. They should have armed the Serbs to the gills and helped them fight, much like what the US does for its allies. Much more could have been done but it wasn't. I guess the Russians are going to pay for their mistakes. As far as the Serbs, Vucic is nothing more than a spineless corrupt bastard. I watch him on Serbian TV with his posturing of innocence and righteousness, but despite that, he is pathetic! It's all in Nikolic's court right now. And he is just as pathetic as Vucic.
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  27. " Turkic people make only 25% while 50% of their genomes are of Slavic and Caucasian origin..." rote

    Are you saying that Russians, Serbs and Turks are brothers?
    That's no way to treat your brother!
    (cry me a river, 17 February 2016 15:17)

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  28. adrian_bucharest

    I am not as good as you are in skin colors and medicine but I can tell you that the Turks are a cocktail where Turkic people make only 25% while 50% of their genomes are of Slavic and Caucasian origin the rest are Kurdish, Greek and Armenian DNA. Anyway see your doctor.
    (rote, 17 February 2016 14:03)

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  29. Sj, agony of defeat. Serb trip to normality will begin through EU, not NATO.
    (getoverit, 17 February 2016 13:39)

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  30. Russia is a cancer they never bringt nothing good ,

    + Turks are more beautifull and better skin colour than Russians
    (adrian_bucharest, 17 February 2016 13:30)

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  31. Did they really write this. They must have been slurping some of that cheap vodka Putin promised.
    (wow, 17 February 2016 13:27)

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  32. The fact that Serbia must join NATO before ever being considered for EU membership is nothing new. The West has been giving hints to Serbia, in this regard, for some time now. It's just that some of the cheerleaders for Serbia have been too dense to get the message, the rest of them have known all along, but have been in a deep state of denial. I suspect this latter group, e.g. Ari Gold, sj, rote, sasa p. jugoslavija, etc, will continue to remain in denial. We need not wait long to hear their shrill voices frantically countering my comments.
    (The Count of Kosova, 17 February 2016 13:24)

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  33. sj

    In fact Kommersant was one of the last to write about it. Even I was writing it here several months ago. Many Russian experts with suspect follow the middle-of-the-road movements undertaken by Serbia on a regular basis.
    (rote, 17 February 2016 13:13)

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  34. Sramota
    (svabo, 17 February 2016 13:09)

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  35. If you can't beat them, then join them.

    Serbia has officially justified NATO bombing Serbia back in 1,999.
    (Guest, 17 February 2016 13:01)

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  36. I would not be wetting my pants for joy over this newspaper report. Sometimes its more to do with an election year and political parties that might have ideas. NATO is despised in Serbia.
    (sj, 17 February 2016 12:55)

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  37. Does NATO have a magic wand that makes problems dissappear?
    No they have an evil wand that creates further problems and suffering the rest of the world.
    Just look at their past record.
    It is nothing but invasion and destruction. They haven't liberated Kosovo or Lybia or Afghanistan or Iraq. They just unleashed hell on earth. Stop being blind and open your eyes. Which ever side you take.
    (Smart Serb, 17 February 2016 12:54)

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  38. We need to preserve our pride and dignity.
    Bowing down to a bully is weak.
    Embarrassing Vucic.
    But hey your being payed handsomely.
    You will die rich and leave the Serbs humiliated for your part.
    Sram te bilo.
    (Smart Serb, 17 February 2016 12:44)

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  39. Russia's last bastion in Europe "shall fall", and to all the moderates and true democratic's this is the best thing that is happening! The policies of the past Serbian governments have brought to Serbia nothing but pain and misery and you were stuck in the illusion of something great something that could never be realized as your former leaders only used you for their own interests!!!
    Soon a new era of true democracy shall be planted in Southern Europe in its entirety, and it's about time! And to all the radical & fanatical Chetnik rats, you were told that your time was limited yet you held hope to a weak and crippled Russian dream that was never to come, a Russia whose foundations were built on lies and deceit!!!
    So get ready to embrace your new masters, ones which will be around for the next Millenia!!!
    (Peter the rocky, 17 February 2016 12:29)

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  40. Good job Serbia, Russians stick your heads to the ground!
    (Adam, 17 February 2016 12:06)

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