According to Ana Brnabic, the European Parliament president has "unequivocally" said that Serbia "will not have to recognize Kosovo in order to join the EU."
PM: Clear message, we can join EU without recognizing Kosovo
According to Ana Brnabic, the European Parliament president has "unequivocally" said that Serbia "will not have to recognize Kosovo in order to join the EU."
Source: Tanjug
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(Tanjug)
"What we heard in terms of a legally binding agreement (with Pristina) is nothing new, we've heard it before, President Vucic also spoke about this, (EU Integration) Minister Joksimovic also spoke about this...," Brnabic said, responding to journalists during a joint news conference with Cerar.
"I think has been said unequivocally by EP President Tajani, that Serbia will not have to recognize Kosovo's independence in order to join the EU. It seems to me that this is a clear and unequivocal message," Brnabic said.
"Normalization with Pristina and finding a long-term sustainable relationship with Pristina is our obligation as the politicians who lead Serbia," she added.
The prime minister underlined that she was glad to be at the helm of the Serbian government, and to be living in a country whose president is "a brave enough and a responsible enough politician to want to raise this issue and try to solve it, so as not to leave it to future generations."
According to her, "the easiest thing to do would be to say that this is a frozen conflict, and hand the hot potato over to someone else."
Brnabic added that Serbian officials today discussed this issue with their colleagues from Slovenia - "who have a different stance on Kosovo and Metohija."
"Slovenia recognized that independence," she said. "But it is important that Serbia really showed a different side to itself - that it can be patient, that it can think with a cool head, that we can be tolerant and flexible and respect deals and agreements."
According to Tanjug's report from Slovenia today, Brnabic also "underlined that the Brussels agreement (between Belgrade and Pristina) was signed almost five years ago - and Belgrade has fulfilled most of its part, while Prishtina did nothing" - referring the Community of Serb Municipalities (ZSO).
Brnabic said that she told Cerar that "a special responsibility" lies on the countries that have recognized Kosovo to now urge Pristina "to act serious enough and respect these agreements."
According to her, Belgrade has demonstrated that it is ready for dialogue - the president of Serbia has shown that he is "always open to dialogue" - therefore the prime minister said she was "glad that the dialogue has been raised to the presidential level."
Brnabic added that "the murder of Oliver Ivanovic additionally complicated the situation" and that she believes it was "a bad decision (of Pristina)" not to allow Serbia to take part in the investigation of the murder - but also stressed that this at the same time shifted the responsibility to Pristina, "but also, in part, to the EU and EULEX (EU rule of law mission in Kosovo)" to find the killers.
With so many years of promoting discord on B92 he is probably addicted to the negative social rewards.
(Roger7, 2 February 2018 20:00)
Thanks, I just read your comment here, I left you a message in an other thread earlier.
Me thinks, he has a good number of psychopathic treats.
(One of) the problem with psychopaths is that they feel to be bored and they need some sort of excitement.
I know a psychopath who would bad-mouth (sexually!) her own daughter and son.
And her sister. She really enjoys that, she needs to talk about all kind of dirty bedroom things in very detail... that saves her from boredom.
That "Danilo" (or whoever) guy is a tad better.
Regardless, they have absolutely no remorse, feelings for others, empathy... whatever.
Interestingly, many supervisors in American companies are like that.
Not because America would be "bad" per se... it is because the side-effects of individualism.
(Ataman, 6 February 2018 07:06)
Ataman,
as an experienced police officer (with international experience) you should be more precise when you accuse others about being trolls.
(Gyorgy Mically, 4 February 2018 22:47)
Everyone knows you're an Albanian troll, so quit trying to play yourself off as a Croat.
(ChiTown, 2 February 2018 22:24)
Most likely incorrect - he failed basic "Albanianness" test.
Most likely he is an ethnic Serb. In addition, he is a poisonous, bitter low-level life form.
Most likely he is identical with Danilo (from either BG or NS, do not remember).
All the above really does not matter tough. That somebody is neither a voice for Serbia, nor for Kosov@ nor for Albania.
We should not insult Albanians referring to that sorry being.
Let's call him simply Danilo Danilovic Danilov.
As far as I remember, that "Danilo" hated the entire world because he was discriminated for his sexual orientation. Well... than he does a good disservice to the LGBT community, too.
But maybe that LGBT thing is bogus, too. I do not recall, what is not bogus about him.
(Ataman, 4 February 2018 06:09)
Oh Yes You have to Recognize Kosovo independence if Serbia wants to be part of EUROPE if not then go with Russia but no more Billions of Dallars help for Serbia. Year after Year there is no other way round but to recognize Kosovo.
(Bahri, 4 February 2018 03:45)
It will go back to being internationally recognised how it was before; an autonomous region of Serbia.
Unfortunately the US were too strong and our allies too weak so we had to concede to a temporary defeat (land theft).
We don't have to recognise Kosovo as independent, other countries are denouncing recognition, Russia & China getting far stronger and the US getting weaker.
As more western countries make decisions for themselves and learn about the history of Kosovo, they will abandon the failed project and she will be where she belongs: no demarcation lines, no temporary border lines, no US troops and most importantly, under Serbia's jurisdiction.
(trizo, 3 February 2018 02:49)
We managed to expell 200 000 serbs from our territory. They have still not returned . Time to kick out those 100 000 remaning serbs left 😎
(Victory1999, 2 February 2018 17:37)
Zip it Vicki, you're not smart enough to instigate anything. Everyone knows you're an Albanian troll, so quit trying to play yourself off as a Croat. You can say what you want about the Croats, but they're not stupid like the Albos. Or, are you Azir today?!?!?
(ChiTown, 2 February 2018 22:24)
We managed to expell 200 000 serbs from our territory. They have still not returned . Time to kick out those 100 000 remaning serbs left 😎
(Victory1999, 2 February 2018 17:37)
@ Vicki - That's called "ethnic cleansing" in the civilized world...also very "unbecoming" of "Europes youngest Democracy", ya know. Maybe that's why your international "friends" are trying to " disown" this "kosova" abortion project? Maybe? Whadda ya think, Homer?
(Watcher, 2 February 2018 22:06)
The troll commented as Danilo years ago, I believe. When he was identified he began to use many monikers with numerous personalities and varying levels of English proficiency.
I think the troll is Canadian and can speak Serbian. He probably has the same bizarre behavior on B92 Serbian forum.
He most likely has the warped psycho-social traits that go along being a typical troll. He gets some kind of perverted reward by bullying others with his abusive comments.
Trolls gain a sense of pleasure and reward when they hurt people. Like a typical sadist (his ? sexual proclivity) he enjoys causing harm.
With so many years of promoting discord on B92 he is probably addicted to the negative social rewards.
B92's resident troll used the phrase "internet warrior". I found the following interesting, “The chatrooms and social media feeds are their (trolls) hunting grounds. Lies, exaggerations and provocative statements are their weapons of choice. Cyber-trolling appears to be an internet manifestation of everyday sadism.”
(Roger7, 2 February 2018 20:00)
Sam just like you Peter the Rocky Mountains uses the absurd phrase "warrior troll".
(Roger7, 2 February 2018 15:03)
Ah, don't forget victory1999 from your list.
Bilbao got upset and that is something...
Danilo does not want to multiply the traditional way.
It's his business - but using this way of procreation is kind of pathetic. :-/
(Ataman, 2 February 2018 19:43)
Dont let the devil be your backseat driver or whatever your name is
We managed to expell 200 000 serbs from our territory. They have still not returned . Time to kick out those 100 000 remaning serbs left 😎
(Victory1999, 2 February 2018 17:37)
Rote,
Whatever you are trying to say, doesn't translate well from Yiddish to English. …
p.s.
How many Serb families will you, personally, take into your home when they are kicked out of Kosovo?
(Blag T., 2 February 2018 08:22)
And who are you going to beg to do kicking out part for you this time? Y'all already tried
once on your own with your donkey brigades and how did that work out for you???
(don't let the devil be your back seat driver, 2 February 2018 15:32)
What is more important? Albos in Kosovo and nothing to offer or Serbia and access to the east???? Waiting for an Albo response.
(sj, 2 February 2018 12:11)
This thread is an example of one troll, while using multple monikers (Avni, Victory1999, Albanian American, and Lenard) contaminates the dialogue.
(Roger7, 1 February 2018 21:44)
I start to believe, you are correct about L. as well. He is here since eons with unique style. I always believed, he uses that style intentionally, as some sort of irony.
A while ago we had a short exchange here on B92 and his responses were unique, humorous and intelligent - but using the same style. It was about statues of "important men" like Josip Jelačić.
What did strike me that time - that how come such an intelligent and bright guy use such a silly English language. And how come he has such lopsided views despite his intelligence.
Well... you could be right.
There is something else, a little thing revealing. ;-)
So there is a host of characters - with a single person behind of them.
I wonder, B92 should really sue that person - he is a 100% psychopath and intentionally damaged everything possible. He is probably very-very happy about that.
Imagine: damaging Kosov@, Albania, Serbia, all the rest of ex-YU, Russia, USA, EU... what not? A "great" ego of a nil person.
(Ataman, 2 February 2018 07:59)
Ivana, well put. The other major reason is that China & Japan have invested in Serbia and will continue to. So will Russia. That is competition and as Serbia's standard of living increases without the EU, the EU will diminish in the Balkans and Eastern Europe. It is like a man treating his girlfriend like crap. Then she starts dating other men that treat her like a Princess. He bow has to also or he is out. More than likely in both cases they get the boot.
(Mike Sujdovic, 2 February 2018 05:46)
Miss Brnabic said:
"Normalization with Pristina and finding a long-term sustainable relationship with Pristina is our obligation as the politicians who lead Serbia."
You are completely right about this point, Miss Brnabic. But it has nothing to do with Serbia joining the European Union. Normalization must only happen in the United Nations. Thus, if Serbia wants to be sure to continue to exist as a state, it must not ratify any "legally binding agreement (with Pristina)".
Miss Brnabic also said:
"the easiest thing to do would be to say that this is a frozen conflict, and hand the hot potato over to someone else."
Well, the point is that Cyprus's conflict is frozen since 43 years and yet, Cyprus is a member of the European Union. Thus, it isn't a problem that Kosovo's conflict continue to be frozen!
(Victor Hugo, 2 February 2018 02:16)
Yes Tito is still alive, alive in the hearts of too many Serbs and also Hitler is still alive in the hearts of the disciples like your self of the Roman Catholic Empire !!!
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 2 February 2018 00:06)
For the one millionth time. Whatever makes you sleep at night. If you think that EU will allow itself to import big Balkan problems you should think again, especially, allowing the same Serbia that's sitting in two chairs and palling around with Russia.
(Avni, 1 February 2018 20:06)
===…==
Maybe, maybe not and I hope you're right but how can you be so sure?
Do you have some additional information we don't?
(Peggy, 1 February 2018 23:40)
Translation to the Serbia
you have to solve all your problems with Kosovo first
then you can join the EU
and what do you think that means it pretty darn close to recognition isnt it
first
Balkan Politicians are so stupid cant they read in between the lines
this is the EU speaking double talk and BS always
(Sam, 1 February 2018 23:27)
They know that we wouldn't give up on Kosovo because of the EU and they don't want to push us into Russian hands either. That's the only reason, but good for us.
(Ivana, 1 February 2018 21:47)
This thread is an example of one troll, while using multple monikers (Avni, Victory1999, Albanian American, and Lenard) contaminates the dialogue.
(Roger7, 1 February 2018 21:44)
A wise man once said: "When your best friends start turning on you, you have to ask yourself the why question." [link]
(Quit dreaming and get a job somewhere, 1 February 2018 20:52)
Here she says solve now
"a brave enough and a responsible enough politician to want to raise this issue and try to solve it, so as not to leave it to future generations." "the easiest thing to do would be to say that this is a frozen conflict, and hand the hot potato over to someone else."
Yet contradicts with Serbia needs to do the opposite of above with patience..
"But it is important that Serbia really showed a different side to itself - that it can be patient, that it can think with a cool head, that we can be tolerant and flexible and respect deals and agreements."
Bit of a mixed message surely ?
(Principa, Gracanica, KiM, Serbia, 1 February 2018 20:42)
“@ Vicki - Serbia's not your problem..it's Tirana! They don't want nothing to do with you guys! Why would they take on that responsibility? They are looking to join EU, not "kosova"...
you sound like a drowning man, reaching for anything!
(Watcher, 1 February 2018 17:53)”
You are 100% right Watcher. I didn’t believe that Albanians from Albania proper disliked K Albanians that much before. I got it straight from a delegation in NYC. Also, last summer in Tirana, several different people confirmed this. I am not sure yet why they call K Alb thieves and “profiterët”, but there is no doubt that it is true.
(Staff, 1 February 2018 20:36)
For the one millionth time. Whatever makes you sleep at night. If you think that EU will allow itself to import big Balkan problems you should think again, especially, allowing the same Serbia that's sitting in two chairs and palling around with Russia.
(Avni, 1 February 2018 20:06)
YOU, ALL the humanity from the Balkans, why you so afraid to touch the face of God ???
Why the Balkans needs to be a prisoner of the Devil, only that we permit that !who is correct and who is wrong, are you better than me or am I worse than you ? OUR Balkan collective sins, when will it ever stop ? Who and which one of us will face God and tell God that we are pure ? Alternative food like grains, fruits and vegetables so we stop murdering our beautiful Animal Kingdom, alternative fuel, so we stop murdering each other and our beautiful planet, that is where we should be united and striving to achieve ! God is so pure and innocent and look the example of the humanity in the Balkans !!!
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 1 February 2018 19:20)
Dragoljub Djurkovic that was some dribble. I don't know if I should break it to you your nemesis Tito is dead also. Unless your barren mother Serbiana has cloned Tito. I was in Serbia a few years ago to have look around. Went to see the guilted mausoleum of Tito. I noticed a lot of stains so asked the Serb care takers in my best Serbian accent. Whats up with all those stains. Aaa they said that's all the river's of tears of the Serb people. We Serbs really miss him, go figure. I all most burst out laughing. The caretakers said I see it has affected you deeply also. It dose to us Serb's.
(Lenard, 1 February 2018 19:10)
We are going to kick out the serbian virus from Kosovo and then Kosovo will join Albania. Thats what is going to happen instead. You are dying out and have no future anyway so why should you care about Kosovo becoming a part of Albania again?
(Victory1999, 1 February 2018 16:52)
@ Vicki - Serbia's not your problem..it's Tirana! They don't want nothing to do with you guys! Why would they take on that responsibility? They are looking to join EU, not "kosova"...
you sound like a drowning man, reaching for anything!
(Watcher, 1 February 2018 17:53)
We are going to kick out the serbian virus from Kosovo and then Kosovo will join Albania.
(Victory1999, 1 February 2018 16:52)
Ho hum, these predictable calls for genocide and the creation of Greater Albanian cancer is precisely the reason why the EU has effectively decided against Kosovo being a state. Besides, if Albo DingDongs spent as much time trying to make wherever the inhabit a livable place instead of trying to push everyone else out and making the rest of the world regard them as bottomfeeders, they wouldn't be the walking stereotypes they are.
Tell you what Vicky, you get your mom's pot and pan set from the kitchen and dress up as your favorite KLA terrorist to start the war. But remember she needs to use them to cook dinner around 6 PM and you have homework you should be doing instead :)
(LOL, 1 February 2018 17:42)
Need I say more, does not take a doctorate in rocket science to figure that one out ? Srbija is pretty much doomed, from the 1940's Hitler lit the fuse under Serbian peoples asses and then Serbian people put their new mortal god Tito on the throne in Beograd and then USA, England and Germany pretty much nailed the Serbian coffin shut! Yes it is a curse that the Serbian people put on them selves by making Croatian Devil Josip Broz Tito their new god on earth ! So the Serbian self destruction in full mode and very effective !!!
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 1 February 2018 17:23)
We are going to kick out the serbian virus from Kosovo and then Kosovo will join Albania. Thats what is going to happen instead. You are dying out and have no future anyway so why should you care about Kosovo becoming a part of Albania again?
(Victory1999, 1 February 2018 16:52
Hey Vicki, this one has to sting a bit! Don't you think??? What part of Europe is getting tired of the Albos and Croats whining, land grabbing, playing victim, don't you understand. Just keep running your mouth, with two terrorists contolling your government, and let me know how it works out for you.
(ChiTown, 1 February 2018 17:19)
We are going to kick out the serbian virus from Kosovo and then Kosovo will join Albania. Thats what is going to happen instead. You are dying out and have no future anyway so why should you care about Kosovo becoming a part of Albania again?
(Victory1999, 1 February 2018 16:52)
We are going to kick out the serbian virus from Kosovo and then Kosovo will join Albania.
(Victory1999, 1 February 2018 16:52)
Ho hum, these predictable calls for genocide and the creation of Greater Albanian cancer is precisely the reason why the EU has effectively decided against Kosovo being a state. Besides, if Albo DingDongs spent as much time trying to make wherever the inhabit a livable place instead of trying to push everyone else out and making the rest of the world regard them as bottomfeeders, they wouldn't be the walking stereotypes they are.
Tell you what Vicky, you get your mom's pot and pan set from the kitchen and dress up as your favorite KLA terrorist to start the war. But remember she needs to use them to cook dinner around 6 PM and you have homework you should be doing instead :)
(LOL, 1 February 2018 17:42)
Ivana, well put. The other major reason is that China & Japan have invested in Serbia and will continue to. So will Russia. That is competition and as Serbia's standard of living increases without the EU, the EU will diminish in the Balkans and Eastern Europe. It is like a man treating his girlfriend like crap. Then she starts dating other men that treat her like a Princess. He bow has to also or he is out. More than likely in both cases they get the boot.
(Mike Sujdovic, 2 February 2018 05:46)
We are going to kick out the serbian virus from Kosovo and then Kosovo will join Albania. Thats what is going to happen instead. You are dying out and have no future anyway so why should you care about Kosovo becoming a part of Albania again?
(Victory1999, 1 February 2018 16:52
Hey Vicki, this one has to sting a bit! Don't you think??? What part of Europe is getting tired of the Albos and Croats whining, land grabbing, playing victim, don't you understand. Just keep running your mouth, with two terrorists contolling your government, and let me know how it works out for you.
(ChiTown, 1 February 2018 17:19)
We are going to kick out the serbian virus from Kosovo and then Kosovo will join Albania. Thats what is going to happen instead. You are dying out and have no future anyway so why should you care about Kosovo becoming a part of Albania again?
(Victory1999, 1 February 2018 16:52)
@ Vicki - Serbia's not your problem..it's Tirana! They don't want nothing to do with you guys! Why would they take on that responsibility? They are looking to join EU, not "kosova"...
you sound like a drowning man, reaching for anything!
(Watcher, 1 February 2018 17:53)
“@ Vicki - Serbia's not your problem..it's Tirana! They don't want nothing to do with you guys! Why would they take on that responsibility? They are looking to join EU, not "kosova"...
you sound like a drowning man, reaching for anything!
(Watcher, 1 February 2018 17:53)”
You are 100% right Watcher. I didn’t believe that Albanians from Albania proper disliked K Albanians that much before. I got it straight from a delegation in NYC. Also, last summer in Tirana, several different people confirmed this. I am not sure yet why they call K Alb thieves and “profiterët”, but there is no doubt that it is true.
(Staff, 1 February 2018 20:36)
A wise man once said: "When your best friends start turning on you, you have to ask yourself the why question." [link]
(Quit dreaming and get a job somewhere, 1 February 2018 20:52)
We are going to kick out the serbian virus from Kosovo and then Kosovo will join Albania. Thats what is going to happen instead. You are dying out and have no future anyway so why should you care about Kosovo becoming a part of Albania again?
(Victory1999, 1 February 2018 16:52)
They know that we wouldn't give up on Kosovo because of the EU and they don't want to push us into Russian hands either. That's the only reason, but good for us.
(Ivana, 1 February 2018 21:47)
This thread is an example of one troll, while using multple monikers (Avni, Victory1999, Albanian American, and Lenard) contaminates the dialogue.
(Roger7, 1 February 2018 21:44)
What is more important? Albos in Kosovo and nothing to offer or Serbia and access to the east???? Waiting for an Albo response.
(sj, 2 February 2018 12:11)
We managed to expell 200 000 serbs from our territory. They have still not returned . Time to kick out those 100 000 remaning serbs left 😎
(Victory1999, 2 February 2018 17:37)
Zip it Vicki, you're not smart enough to instigate anything. Everyone knows you're an Albanian troll, so quit trying to play yourself off as a Croat. You can say what you want about the Croats, but they're not stupid like the Albos. Or, are you Azir today?!?!?
(ChiTown, 2 February 2018 22:24)
We managed to expell 200 000 serbs from our territory. They have still not returned . Time to kick out those 100 000 remaning serbs left 😎
(Victory1999, 2 February 2018 17:37)
@ Vicki - That's called "ethnic cleansing" in the civilized world...also very "unbecoming" of "Europes youngest Democracy", ya know. Maybe that's why your international "friends" are trying to " disown" this "kosova" abortion project? Maybe? Whadda ya think, Homer?
(Watcher, 2 February 2018 22:06)
Dragoljub Djurkovic that was some dribble. I don't know if I should break it to you your nemesis Tito is dead also. Unless your barren mother Serbiana has cloned Tito. I was in Serbia a few years ago to have look around. Went to see the guilted mausoleum of Tito. I noticed a lot of stains so asked the Serb care takers in my best Serbian accent. Whats up with all those stains. Aaa they said that's all the river's of tears of the Serb people. We Serbs really miss him, go figure. I all most burst out laughing. The caretakers said I see it has affected you deeply also. It dose to us Serb's.
(Lenard, 1 February 2018 19:10)
Need I say more, does not take a doctorate in rocket science to figure that one out ? Srbija is pretty much doomed, from the 1940's Hitler lit the fuse under Serbian peoples asses and then Serbian people put their new mortal god Tito on the throne in Beograd and then USA, England and Germany pretty much nailed the Serbian coffin shut! Yes it is a curse that the Serbian people put on them selves by making Croatian Devil Josip Broz Tito their new god on earth ! So the Serbian self destruction in full mode and very effective !!!
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 1 February 2018 17:23)
It will go back to being internationally recognised how it was before; an autonomous region of Serbia.
Unfortunately the US were too strong and our allies too weak so we had to concede to a temporary defeat (land theft).
We don't have to recognise Kosovo as independent, other countries are denouncing recognition, Russia & China getting far stronger and the US getting weaker.
As more western countries make decisions for themselves and learn about the history of Kosovo, they will abandon the failed project and she will be where she belongs: no demarcation lines, no temporary border lines, no US troops and most importantly, under Serbia's jurisdiction.
(trizo, 3 February 2018 02:49)
Yes Tito is still alive, alive in the hearts of too many Serbs and also Hitler is still alive in the hearts of the disciples like your self of the Roman Catholic Empire !!!
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 2 February 2018 00:06)
Here she says solve now
"a brave enough and a responsible enough politician to want to raise this issue and try to solve it, so as not to leave it to future generations." "the easiest thing to do would be to say that this is a frozen conflict, and hand the hot potato over to someone else."
Yet contradicts with Serbia needs to do the opposite of above with patience..
"But it is important that Serbia really showed a different side to itself - that it can be patient, that it can think with a cool head, that we can be tolerant and flexible and respect deals and agreements."
Bit of a mixed message surely ?
(Principa, Gracanica, KiM, Serbia, 1 February 2018 20:42)
Translation to the Serbia
you have to solve all your problems with Kosovo first
then you can join the EU
and what do you think that means it pretty darn close to recognition isnt it
first
Balkan Politicians are so stupid cant they read in between the lines
this is the EU speaking double talk and BS always
(Sam, 1 February 2018 23:27)
The troll commented as Danilo years ago, I believe. When he was identified he began to use many monikers with numerous personalities and varying levels of English proficiency.
I think the troll is Canadian and can speak Serbian. He probably has the same bizarre behavior on B92 Serbian forum.
He most likely has the warped psycho-social traits that go along being a typical troll. He gets some kind of perverted reward by bullying others with his abusive comments.
Trolls gain a sense of pleasure and reward when they hurt people. Like a typical sadist (his ? sexual proclivity) he enjoys causing harm.
With so many years of promoting discord on B92 he is probably addicted to the negative social rewards.
B92's resident troll used the phrase "internet warrior". I found the following interesting, “The chatrooms and social media feeds are their (trolls) hunting grounds. Lies, exaggerations and provocative statements are their weapons of choice. Cyber-trolling appears to be an internet manifestation of everyday sadism.”
(Roger7, 2 February 2018 20:00)
For the one millionth time. Whatever makes you sleep at night. If you think that EU will allow itself to import big Balkan problems you should think again, especially, allowing the same Serbia that's sitting in two chairs and palling around with Russia.
(Avni, 1 February 2018 20:06)
===…==
Maybe, maybe not and I hope you're right but how can you be so sure?
Do you have some additional information we don't?
(Peggy, 1 February 2018 23:40)
For the one millionth time. Whatever makes you sleep at night. If you think that EU will allow itself to import big Balkan problems you should think again, especially, allowing the same Serbia that's sitting in two chairs and palling around with Russia.
(Avni, 1 February 2018 20:06)
Rote,
Whatever you are trying to say, doesn't translate well from Yiddish to English. …
p.s.
How many Serb families will you, personally, take into your home when they are kicked out of Kosovo?
(Blag T., 2 February 2018 08:22)
And who are you going to beg to do kicking out part for you this time? Y'all already tried
once on your own with your donkey brigades and how did that work out for you???
(don't let the devil be your back seat driver, 2 February 2018 15:32)
YOU, ALL the humanity from the Balkans, why you so afraid to touch the face of God ???
Why the Balkans needs to be a prisoner of the Devil, only that we permit that !who is correct and who is wrong, are you better than me or am I worse than you ? OUR Balkan collective sins, when will it ever stop ? Who and which one of us will face God and tell God that we are pure ? Alternative food like grains, fruits and vegetables so we stop murdering our beautiful Animal Kingdom, alternative fuel, so we stop murdering each other and our beautiful planet, that is where we should be united and striving to achieve ! God is so pure and innocent and look the example of the humanity in the Balkans !!!
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 1 February 2018 19:20)
Sam just like you Peter the Rocky Mountains uses the absurd phrase "warrior troll".
(Roger7, 2 February 2018 15:03)
Ah, don't forget victory1999 from your list.
Bilbao got upset and that is something...
Danilo does not want to multiply the traditional way.
It's his business - but using this way of procreation is kind of pathetic. :-/
(Ataman, 2 February 2018 19:43)
Everyone knows you're an Albanian troll, so quit trying to play yourself off as a Croat.
(ChiTown, 2 February 2018 22:24)
Most likely incorrect - he failed basic "Albanianness" test.
Most likely he is an ethnic Serb. In addition, he is a poisonous, bitter low-level life form.
Most likely he is identical with Danilo (from either BG or NS, do not remember).
All the above really does not matter tough. That somebody is neither a voice for Serbia, nor for Kosov@ nor for Albania.
We should not insult Albanians referring to that sorry being.
Let's call him simply Danilo Danilovic Danilov.
As far as I remember, that "Danilo" hated the entire world because he was discriminated for his sexual orientation. Well... than he does a good disservice to the LGBT community, too.
But maybe that LGBT thing is bogus, too. I do not recall, what is not bogus about him.
(Ataman, 4 February 2018 06:09)
This thread is an example of one troll, while using multple monikers (Avni, Victory1999, Albanian American, and Lenard) contaminates the dialogue.
(Roger7, 1 February 2018 21:44)
I start to believe, you are correct about L. as well. He is here since eons with unique style. I always believed, he uses that style intentionally, as some sort of irony.
A while ago we had a short exchange here on B92 and his responses were unique, humorous and intelligent - but using the same style. It was about statues of "important men" like Josip Jelačić.
What did strike me that time - that how come such an intelligent and bright guy use such a silly English language. And how come he has such lopsided views despite his intelligence.
Well... you could be right.
There is something else, a little thing revealing. ;-)
So there is a host of characters - with a single person behind of them.
I wonder, B92 should really sue that person - he is a 100% psychopath and intentionally damaged everything possible. He is probably very-very happy about that.
Imagine: damaging Kosov@, Albania, Serbia, all the rest of ex-YU, Russia, USA, EU... what not? A "great" ego of a nil person.
(Ataman, 2 February 2018 07:59)
Ataman,
as an experienced police officer (with international experience) you should be more precise when you accuse others about being trolls.
(Gyorgy Mically, 4 February 2018 22:47)
Miss Brnabic said:
"Normalization with Pristina and finding a long-term sustainable relationship with Pristina is our obligation as the politicians who lead Serbia."
You are completely right about this point, Miss Brnabic. But it has nothing to do with Serbia joining the European Union. Normalization must only happen in the United Nations. Thus, if Serbia wants to be sure to continue to exist as a state, it must not ratify any "legally binding agreement (with Pristina)".
Miss Brnabic also said:
"the easiest thing to do would be to say that this is a frozen conflict, and hand the hot potato over to someone else."
Well, the point is that Cyprus's conflict is frozen since 43 years and yet, Cyprus is a member of the European Union. Thus, it isn't a problem that Kosovo's conflict continue to be frozen!
(Victor Hugo, 2 February 2018 02:16)
Oh Yes You have to Recognize Kosovo independence if Serbia wants to be part of EUROPE if not then go with Russia but no more Billions of Dallars help for Serbia. Year after Year there is no other way round but to recognize Kosovo.
(Bahri, 4 February 2018 03:45)
Dont let the devil be your backseat driver or whatever your name is
We managed to expell 200 000 serbs from our territory. They have still not returned . Time to kick out those 100 000 remaning serbs left 😎
(Victory1999, 2 February 2018 17:37)
With so many years of promoting discord on B92 he is probably addicted to the negative social rewards.
(Roger7, 2 February 2018 20:00)
Thanks, I just read your comment here, I left you a message in an other thread earlier.
Me thinks, he has a good number of psychopathic treats.
(One of) the problem with psychopaths is that they feel to be bored and they need some sort of excitement.
I know a psychopath who would bad-mouth (sexually!) her own daughter and son.
And her sister. She really enjoys that, she needs to talk about all kind of dirty bedroom things in very detail... that saves her from boredom.
That "Danilo" (or whoever) guy is a tad better.
Regardless, they have absolutely no remorse, feelings for others, empathy... whatever.
Interestingly, many supervisors in American companies are like that.
Not because America would be "bad" per se... it is because the side-effects of individualism.
(Ataman, 6 February 2018 07:06)
We are going to kick out the serbian virus from Kosovo and then Kosovo will join Albania. Thats what is going to happen instead. You are dying out and have no future anyway so why should you care about Kosovo becoming a part of Albania again?
(Victory1999, 1 February 2018 16:52)
For the one millionth time. Whatever makes you sleep at night. If you think that EU will allow itself to import big Balkan problems you should think again, especially, allowing the same Serbia that's sitting in two chairs and palling around with Russia.
(Avni, 1 February 2018 20:06)
This thread is an example of one troll, while using multple monikers (Avni, Victory1999, Albanian American, and Lenard) contaminates the dialogue.
(Roger7, 1 February 2018 21:44)
Translation to the Serbia
you have to solve all your problems with Kosovo first
then you can join the EU
and what do you think that means it pretty darn close to recognition isnt it
first
Balkan Politicians are so stupid cant they read in between the lines
this is the EU speaking double talk and BS always
(Sam, 1 February 2018 23:27)
Dont let the devil be your backseat driver or whatever your name is
We managed to expell 200 000 serbs from our territory. They have still not returned . Time to kick out those 100 000 remaning serbs left 😎
(Victory1999, 2 February 2018 17:37)
Dragoljub Djurkovic that was some dribble. I don't know if I should break it to you your nemesis Tito is dead also. Unless your barren mother Serbiana has cloned Tito. I was in Serbia a few years ago to have look around. Went to see the guilted mausoleum of Tito. I noticed a lot of stains so asked the Serb care takers in my best Serbian accent. Whats up with all those stains. Aaa they said that's all the river's of tears of the Serb people. We Serbs really miss him, go figure. I all most burst out laughing. The caretakers said I see it has affected you deeply also. It dose to us Serb's.
(Lenard, 1 February 2018 19:10)
We are going to kick out the serbian virus from Kosovo and then Kosovo will join Albania. Thats what is going to happen instead. You are dying out and have no future anyway so why should you care about Kosovo becoming a part of Albania again?
(Victory1999, 1 February 2018 16:52
Hey Vicki, this one has to sting a bit! Don't you think??? What part of Europe is getting tired of the Albos and Croats whining, land grabbing, playing victim, don't you understand. Just keep running your mouth, with two terrorists contolling your government, and let me know how it works out for you.
(ChiTown, 1 February 2018 17:19)
They know that we wouldn't give up on Kosovo because of the EU and they don't want to push us into Russian hands either. That's the only reason, but good for us.
(Ivana, 1 February 2018 21:47)
Yes Tito is still alive, alive in the hearts of too many Serbs and also Hitler is still alive in the hearts of the disciples like your self of the Roman Catholic Empire !!!
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 2 February 2018 00:06)
A wise man once said: "When your best friends start turning on you, you have to ask yourself the why question." [link]
(Quit dreaming and get a job somewhere, 1 February 2018 20:52)
Oh Yes You have to Recognize Kosovo independence if Serbia wants to be part of EUROPE if not then go with Russia but no more Billions of Dallars help for Serbia. Year after Year there is no other way round but to recognize Kosovo.
(Bahri, 4 February 2018 03:45)
We are going to kick out the serbian virus from Kosovo and then Kosovo will join Albania.
(Victory1999, 1 February 2018 16:52)
Ho hum, these predictable calls for genocide and the creation of Greater Albanian cancer is precisely the reason why the EU has effectively decided against Kosovo being a state. Besides, if Albo DingDongs spent as much time trying to make wherever the inhabit a livable place instead of trying to push everyone else out and making the rest of the world regard them as bottomfeeders, they wouldn't be the walking stereotypes they are.
Tell you what Vicky, you get your mom's pot and pan set from the kitchen and dress up as your favorite KLA terrorist to start the war. But remember she needs to use them to cook dinner around 6 PM and you have homework you should be doing instead :)
(LOL, 1 February 2018 17:42)
We are going to kick out the serbian virus from Kosovo and then Kosovo will join Albania. Thats what is going to happen instead. You are dying out and have no future anyway so why should you care about Kosovo becoming a part of Albania again?
(Victory1999, 1 February 2018 16:52)
@ Vicki - Serbia's not your problem..it's Tirana! They don't want nothing to do with you guys! Why would they take on that responsibility? They are looking to join EU, not "kosova"...
you sound like a drowning man, reaching for anything!
(Watcher, 1 February 2018 17:53)
Need I say more, does not take a doctorate in rocket science to figure that one out ? Srbija is pretty much doomed, from the 1940's Hitler lit the fuse under Serbian peoples asses and then Serbian people put their new mortal god Tito on the throne in Beograd and then USA, England and Germany pretty much nailed the Serbian coffin shut! Yes it is a curse that the Serbian people put on them selves by making Croatian Devil Josip Broz Tito their new god on earth ! So the Serbian self destruction in full mode and very effective !!!
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 1 February 2018 17:23)
This thread is an example of one troll, while using multple monikers (Avni, Victory1999, Albanian American, and Lenard) contaminates the dialogue.
(Roger7, 1 February 2018 21:44)
I start to believe, you are correct about L. as well. He is here since eons with unique style. I always believed, he uses that style intentionally, as some sort of irony.
A while ago we had a short exchange here on B92 and his responses were unique, humorous and intelligent - but using the same style. It was about statues of "important men" like Josip Jelačić.
What did strike me that time - that how come such an intelligent and bright guy use such a silly English language. And how come he has such lopsided views despite his intelligence.
Well... you could be right.
There is something else, a little thing revealing. ;-)
So there is a host of characters - with a single person behind of them.
I wonder, B92 should really sue that person - he is a 100% psychopath and intentionally damaged everything possible. He is probably very-very happy about that.
Imagine: damaging Kosov@, Albania, Serbia, all the rest of ex-YU, Russia, USA, EU... what not? A "great" ego of a nil person.
(Ataman, 2 February 2018 07:59)
The troll commented as Danilo years ago, I believe. When he was identified he began to use many monikers with numerous personalities and varying levels of English proficiency.
I think the troll is Canadian and can speak Serbian. He probably has the same bizarre behavior on B92 Serbian forum.
He most likely has the warped psycho-social traits that go along being a typical troll. He gets some kind of perverted reward by bullying others with his abusive comments.
Trolls gain a sense of pleasure and reward when they hurt people. Like a typical sadist (his ? sexual proclivity) he enjoys causing harm.
With so many years of promoting discord on B92 he is probably addicted to the negative social rewards.
B92's resident troll used the phrase "internet warrior". I found the following interesting, “The chatrooms and social media feeds are their (trolls) hunting grounds. Lies, exaggerations and provocative statements are their weapons of choice. Cyber-trolling appears to be an internet manifestation of everyday sadism.”
(Roger7, 2 February 2018 20:00)
Here she says solve now
"a brave enough and a responsible enough politician to want to raise this issue and try to solve it, so as not to leave it to future generations." "the easiest thing to do would be to say that this is a frozen conflict, and hand the hot potato over to someone else."
Yet contradicts with Serbia needs to do the opposite of above with patience..
"But it is important that Serbia really showed a different side to itself - that it can be patient, that it can think with a cool head, that we can be tolerant and flexible and respect deals and agreements."
Bit of a mixed message surely ?
(Principa, Gracanica, KiM, Serbia, 1 February 2018 20:42)
Ivana, well put. The other major reason is that China & Japan have invested in Serbia and will continue to. So will Russia. That is competition and as Serbia's standard of living increases without the EU, the EU will diminish in the Balkans and Eastern Europe. It is like a man treating his girlfriend like crap. Then she starts dating other men that treat her like a Princess. He bow has to also or he is out. More than likely in both cases they get the boot.
(Mike Sujdovic, 2 February 2018 05:46)
Sam just like you Peter the Rocky Mountains uses the absurd phrase "warrior troll".
(Roger7, 2 February 2018 15:03)
Ah, don't forget victory1999 from your list.
Bilbao got upset and that is something...
Danilo does not want to multiply the traditional way.
It's his business - but using this way of procreation is kind of pathetic. :-/
(Ataman, 2 February 2018 19:43)
We managed to expell 200 000 serbs from our territory. They have still not returned . Time to kick out those 100 000 remaning serbs left 😎
(Victory1999, 2 February 2018 17:37)
@ Vicki - That's called "ethnic cleansing" in the civilized world...also very "unbecoming" of "Europes youngest Democracy", ya know. Maybe that's why your international "friends" are trying to " disown" this "kosova" abortion project? Maybe? Whadda ya think, Homer?
(Watcher, 2 February 2018 22:06)
Everyone knows you're an Albanian troll, so quit trying to play yourself off as a Croat.
(ChiTown, 2 February 2018 22:24)
Most likely incorrect - he failed basic "Albanianness" test.
Most likely he is an ethnic Serb. In addition, he is a poisonous, bitter low-level life form.
Most likely he is identical with Danilo (from either BG or NS, do not remember).
All the above really does not matter tough. That somebody is neither a voice for Serbia, nor for Kosov@ nor for Albania.
We should not insult Albanians referring to that sorry being.
Let's call him simply Danilo Danilovic Danilov.
As far as I remember, that "Danilo" hated the entire world because he was discriminated for his sexual orientation. Well... than he does a good disservice to the LGBT community, too.
But maybe that LGBT thing is bogus, too. I do not recall, what is not bogus about him.
(Ataman, 4 February 2018 06:09)
We managed to expell 200 000 serbs from our territory. They have still not returned . Time to kick out those 100 000 remaning serbs left 😎
(Victory1999, 2 February 2018 17:37)
Zip it Vicki, you're not smart enough to instigate anything. Everyone knows you're an Albanian troll, so quit trying to play yourself off as a Croat. You can say what you want about the Croats, but they're not stupid like the Albos. Or, are you Azir today?!?!?
(ChiTown, 2 February 2018 22:24)
“@ Vicki - Serbia's not your problem..it's Tirana! They don't want nothing to do with you guys! Why would they take on that responsibility? They are looking to join EU, not "kosova"...
you sound like a drowning man, reaching for anything!
(Watcher, 1 February 2018 17:53)”
You are 100% right Watcher. I didn’t believe that Albanians from Albania proper disliked K Albanians that much before. I got it straight from a delegation in NYC. Also, last summer in Tirana, several different people confirmed this. I am not sure yet why they call K Alb thieves and “profiterët”, but there is no doubt that it is true.
(Staff, 1 February 2018 20:36)
It will go back to being internationally recognised how it was before; an autonomous region of Serbia.
Unfortunately the US were too strong and our allies too weak so we had to concede to a temporary defeat (land theft).
We don't have to recognise Kosovo as independent, other countries are denouncing recognition, Russia & China getting far stronger and the US getting weaker.
As more western countries make decisions for themselves and learn about the history of Kosovo, they will abandon the failed project and she will be where she belongs: no demarcation lines, no temporary border lines, no US troops and most importantly, under Serbia's jurisdiction.
(trizo, 3 February 2018 02:49)
YOU, ALL the humanity from the Balkans, why you so afraid to touch the face of God ???
Why the Balkans needs to be a prisoner of the Devil, only that we permit that !who is correct and who is wrong, are you better than me or am I worse than you ? OUR Balkan collective sins, when will it ever stop ? Who and which one of us will face God and tell God that we are pure ? Alternative food like grains, fruits and vegetables so we stop murdering our beautiful Animal Kingdom, alternative fuel, so we stop murdering each other and our beautiful planet, that is where we should be united and striving to achieve ! God is so pure and innocent and look the example of the humanity in the Balkans !!!
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 1 February 2018 19:20)
With so many years of promoting discord on B92 he is probably addicted to the negative social rewards.
(Roger7, 2 February 2018 20:00)
Thanks, I just read your comment here, I left you a message in an other thread earlier.
Me thinks, he has a good number of psychopathic treats.
(One of) the problem with psychopaths is that they feel to be bored and they need some sort of excitement.
I know a psychopath who would bad-mouth (sexually!) her own daughter and son.
And her sister. She really enjoys that, she needs to talk about all kind of dirty bedroom things in very detail... that saves her from boredom.
That "Danilo" (or whoever) guy is a tad better.
Regardless, they have absolutely no remorse, feelings for others, empathy... whatever.
Interestingly, many supervisors in American companies are like that.
Not because America would be "bad" per se... it is because the side-effects of individualism.
(Ataman, 6 February 2018 07:06)
What is more important? Albos in Kosovo and nothing to offer or Serbia and access to the east???? Waiting for an Albo response.
(sj, 2 February 2018 12:11)
Ataman,
as an experienced police officer (with international experience) you should be more precise when you accuse others about being trolls.
(Gyorgy Mically, 4 February 2018 22:47)
For the one millionth time. Whatever makes you sleep at night. If you think that EU will allow itself to import big Balkan problems you should think again, especially, allowing the same Serbia that's sitting in two chairs and palling around with Russia.
(Avni, 1 February 2018 20:06)
===…==
Maybe, maybe not and I hope you're right but how can you be so sure?
Do you have some additional information we don't?
(Peggy, 1 February 2018 23:40)
Rote,
Whatever you are trying to say, doesn't translate well from Yiddish to English. …
p.s.
How many Serb families will you, personally, take into your home when they are kicked out of Kosovo?
(Blag T., 2 February 2018 08:22)
And who are you going to beg to do kicking out part for you this time? Y'all already tried
once on your own with your donkey brigades and how did that work out for you???
(don't let the devil be your back seat driver, 2 February 2018 15:32)
Miss Brnabic said:
"Normalization with Pristina and finding a long-term sustainable relationship with Pristina is our obligation as the politicians who lead Serbia."
You are completely right about this point, Miss Brnabic. But it has nothing to do with Serbia joining the European Union. Normalization must only happen in the United Nations. Thus, if Serbia wants to be sure to continue to exist as a state, it must not ratify any "legally binding agreement (with Pristina)".
Miss Brnabic also said:
"the easiest thing to do would be to say that this is a frozen conflict, and hand the hot potato over to someone else."
Well, the point is that Cyprus's conflict is frozen since 43 years and yet, Cyprus is a member of the European Union. Thus, it isn't a problem that Kosovo's conflict continue to be frozen!
(Victor Hugo, 2 February 2018 02:16)