1. That was definitely an eye opener.
    They are not even hiding their intentions any more.
    (Peggy, 7 February 2020 23:35)

    The only intention and it is bad enough: the expansion of Bureaucracy has to cover the needs of ever-expanding Bureaucracy.
    (and of course few Euros being pocketed by the privileged ones)
    (Ataman, 10 February 2020 00:24)

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  2. I honestly hope, the horrific invasion from Vatican and Japan will be halted.

    I am luckily not affected, but this is how that infamous frog is being cooked.
    (Ataman, 6 February 2020 17:04)
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    That was definitely an eye opener.
    They are not even hiding their intentions any more.
    (Peggy, 7 February 2020 23:35)

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  3. Maybe because they would make Serbia, Serbiastan in a few short decades. A ghetto from where they came. Proof is England, France, Germany and Italy. Anywhere they settle in large numbers.
    (Peggy, 6 February 2020 00:11)

    Hopefully you agree, that the most dangerous migrants in EU are the visitors from Monaco, Canada and of course Serbia and Australia. And watch out for Israel and Japan!

    You guys think I ate some funny mushrooms? Not so fast. Turns out, the #1 immigration enemies are from Andorra, Monaco, San Marino and Vatican.

    Here is the proof:

    [link]

    WTF is that ETIAS?

    Who authorized it?
    Who wrote the ETIAS software? Was outsourced to Jayvijay Jaijaini - or maybe Vijay Jaijani?
    Would you trust that system?
    Why no one reports about this scandalous abuse of power and funds?

    So the main goal is to keep, say, Canadians firmly out of EU after 3 months for an other 3 month.
    How much money was spent on that crap already and what is the goal?

    This is the list of who needs ETIAS:

    [link]

    I honestly hope, the horrific invasion from Vatican and Japan will be halted.

    I am luckily not affected, but this is how that infamous frog is being cooked.
    (Ataman, 6 February 2020 17:04)

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  4. Continuing. Disrespect is due where it should be. Respect is due where it should be.
    Both fingers down and 33+ red minuses for trolling on B92 (really, what is the weight of it, be realistic!)

    Both fingers up and deep respect for returning and bringing up three children locally. Disagreement with some religious views (who cares?)

    Make the math. I am a greedy, material engineer. I see some real "$750K +" sacrifice on one side and some bs on the other.

    So I have deepest respect for the sacrifice and other efforts but the same time asking the BS to cease.

    If he wants to tease I am game. But please stick to some rules and don't take everything seriously.
    (Ataman, 6 February 2020 14:11)

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  5. Let me be now the advocate of the evil-devil Tom.

    No matter, what you talk about immigration - there only one proven way to resist.
    And there is nothing to fear in Europe.

    The recipe is in that clip:

    [link]

    The music is good, but the best is an instinctive hand move of one of the singers, at 3:21. You know exactly WHEN a woman does that gesture.

    As for Tom who is presumably MSG and in real life who-not, despite his blah-blah-blah here on B92, he did it THREE times. So did I.

    Each time, just FYI: there goes your $250,000. That's the total price for one kid.
    You have three Serb or Russian kids? Bye-bye to $750,000

    Well, if my Malyuta Skuratov is a good investigator... (he rarely fails!) - that's the price "Tom" paid to Serbia.

    The rest is blah-blah-blah. Fork out $750K first, than talk about patriotism... Sorry.

    As I recall, he was talking bad about Serbia that the most popular profession in Serbia is the undertaker.

    Unfortunately Tom is not 100% correct: in Croatia, Hungary, Bulgaria and all over ex-CCCP this is the most popular profession.

    If that's the case - how you going to resist the illegal immigrants in 50 years? By ghosts of yourself?
    (Владимир Владимирович, 6 February 2020 13:57)

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  6. Some new Serbs are coming.

    Neki novi Srbi dolaze.
    (Tom L'Orizi, 5 February 2020 12:15)

    Tom (excuse me, MSG) - Малюта has many values.
    True, I decided not nominate Малюта for the Nobel Prize in theoretical physics, but he is a very good person.

    See, last time we had a very strong debate about the age of a T-Rex skeleton.
    Physics here, theology there - it’s just all toilet paper for Малюта.

    Thanks his excellent innovative interrogation style, T-Rex confessed not only that he is 45 million year old, but also that he used to be a Spartan spy during Alexander the Great.

    Малюта was not completely satisfied - and continued the interrogation.
    Turned out, the T-Rex was also involved in some conspiracy against Robespierre.
    All confessions came straight from horse’s mouth, I mean, T-Rex mouth.

    I think Малюта is the best specialist. Ultimately I would let him decide about your question (who is a Serb).
    His next vacation in Egypt, they have some mummy-related controversy.
    Малюта will interrogate mummies and should become the most famous egyptologist.

    But believe me: during intimate 1:1 session even a T-Rex would confess to Малюта being a Serb, Nigerian, Albanian and Aleutian.

    All the same time!

    [link]
    (Владимир Владимирович, 6 February 2020 12:51)

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  7. Ataman,

    "Who has the lion share of responsibility for the calamities in Central Asia, Middle East, Africa? I would say: "Bush".

    Who has the lion share of economic benefit from Camp Bondsteel?
    I would say: "Dick Cheney and indirectly - Bush"."

    Exactly.

    Croatian tycoons profit from "Syrian gruesome war" by selling weapons to jihadis.

    [link]/

    [link]/

    New wave is coming from Libya?

    Who destabilized the country? And who profited from it?
    Why did, to give just one example, 5 billion Euros of Libyan money that was supposed to be frozen in Belgium disappear?

    [link]

    Perhaps, if at least small part of the money stolen from them is returned, they wouldn't have to be in the boat bobbing in the middle of the sea.
    Countries that profited from all this havoc created, should spend part of the profit they made, and migrant problem would be solved.
    (Sreten, 6 February 2020 07:56)

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  8. There are a lot of abandoned homesteads where the refugees could establish themselves. Since our own people don't want to till the land, why don't we give these folks a chance?
    (Make Serbia Great, 3 February 2020 18:36)
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    Maybe because they would make Serbia, Serbiastan in a few short decades. A ghetto from where they came. Proof is England, France, Germany and Italy. Anywhere they settle in large numbers.
    (Peggy, 6 February 2020 00:11)

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  9. Spoken like a true racist!
    (Make Serbia Great, 5 February 2020 08:06)
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    No, a realist.
    What do you want Europe and especially Serbia to look like?
    Let me guess, a ghetto because you hate Serbs and want the worst for Serbia.
    Don't think we are fooled with your "make Serbia Great".
    (Peggy, 6 February 2020 00:09)

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  10. The indigenous peoples of European are being abused by their economic and political Masters and must now fight for their survival. (Michael Thomas, 5 February 2020 11:54)

    Europeans weren't the first people to live in the territory now know as the United States. They were mostly pushed aside because they could not compete. (That's Western logic.) If that's the case, then the "indigenous" people of the UK and other European countries have a "right" to those territories if they excel over the migrants. Fair enough?
    (Make Serbia Great, 5 February 2020 21:50)

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  11. The indigenous peoples of European are being abused by their economic and political Masters and must now fight for their survival.
    (Michael Thomas, 5 February 2020 11:54)

    I did not notice that statement at first. After I did - it presents a major challenge for me.
    Far bigger than what someone under the nick “Tom” ever wrote.

    All I can come up is just a question: if “they” are your economic and political Masters - why whine and complain? Just join for free, it costs nothing and no one will deny you that “privilege”.

    If you would be correct, than voila: you can became a “Master” of all visible and invisible Universe for free.

    In 21st Century you don’t need even to undergo that certain “surgery”. Just say the magic word “reform” - and you are set.
    (Ataman, 5 February 2020 21:22)

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  12. Who has the lion share of responsibility for the calamities in Central Asia, Middle East, Africa? I would say: "Bush".

    Who has the lion share of economic benefit from Camp Bondsteel?
    I would say: "Dick Cheney and indirectly - Bush".

    Do they have any shame? No.
    (Ataman, 5 February 2020 10:52)
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    No morals, heart or shame but again Serbia didn't participate in any world miseries and should not have change it's culture because of these greedy monsters.
    Yes, we can fill empty houses but we need to choose how we fill them. We don't owe anyone anything and there are plenty of Serbs looking for a place to live as well.
    If these immigrants were to integrate and respect the laws of the land they choose to settle on, I might say we can be generous even though we didn't create the mess but the don't.
    All we have to do is look at the mess that is made of western Europe. Paris is a ghetto, as is London. Terrorism is going on even today. Why should Serbia become the same? Do you think that these migrants would somehow respect Serbia when they don't respect anywhere else.
    Look at Germany. Rapes and attacks on women. Do you want women to be safe or not?
    Children getting abducted and raped in great numbers in England and all the authorities could do is sit back and pretend it wasn't happening because they would be called racist.
    Now look at Poland, Hungary and Slovakia. Any similarities at all? None. Why is that?
    (Peggy, 5 February 2020 21:10)

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  13. Spoken like a true racist!
    (Make Serbia Great, 5 February 2020 08:06)

    True, with a "little" twist: who is the racist on this clip?

    [link]

    Than what you would think if your neighbor will declare on you that they dug out the Indian Ocean 7000 years ago, than they invented the rocket science 5000 years ago - and than they had a nuclear war (because of your ancestors, presumably) 4000 years ago and all their culture disappeared because of your ancestors?

    The next step will be a justification: "because of that, we are entitled to all benefits, including to take away your job, car, house"

    You do not need to be a rocket scientist to discover all this nonsense, just look up the keyword "Vimana" on your / our favorite "tube" and count all the beans (economy, technology, etc) to see that all the pure racist garbage about Indian supremacy is geared against you, too.

    BTW: why attack Peggy out of nowhere when she did not attack you in this thread?
    In particular that her statement has supporting facts?

    She knows already you disagree with her on 99.99% of the topics.
    She knows, I disagree with her on probably 89.99% of the topics.

    I may miss the big deal between you and Peggy - but if someone tells me that "because we invented Vimana 6000 years ago we going to take away your job, car and house now" I am... sorry, going to explain them few unfriendly things.
    (Ataman, 5 February 2020 18:33)

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  14. Why don’t we work in the evening after completing our day jobs? Why don’t we work at weekends as well?
    (Michael Thomas, 5 February 2020 11:54)

    The brain needs a permanent challenge. If economic advancement is a by-product, than it is not bad. I rather see a danger of software produced in Indian sweat-shops in India.
    All of us suffer from it - most of the victims do not even know.

    Bad banking software?
    Useless web sites?
    7 hours wait for Godot on the border?
    Customer service representatives acting like robots?
    Customer service representatives being replaced by badly designed AI?

    Where all this binary trash is coming from? Ask “Vijay Jayjani”.

    Than what about Boeing sub-contracting the project “how to create a software simulation of older models within a new airplane” project to India - and what happens if simulation has some “minor” software bug?

    My “solution” would be: listen more to engineers, fire most of the managers and greedy marketing experts.
    And of course “Vijay Jaijani” contractors who are de-facto illegal immigrants.

    Look at Cisco, where the non-Indians are a tiny minority. Since Indian boss will hire Indian programmers only, the entire problem just grows.

    For now this is limited to the Valley + Portland + Seattle area, maybe starting to spill over to Austin and San Diego.
    Let’s see how it will be in 20-30 years

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    Neki novi Srbi dolaze.
    (Tom L'Orizi, 5 February 2020 12:15)
    Сигурно, Том jе Србин. ;)
    (Ataman, 5 February 2020 18:08)

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  15. There is no reason for africans and arabs to come to Europe just economical. Same with albanians. Keep them all out.
    (Hank the Tank, 5 February 2020 15:18)

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  16. Some new Serbs are coming.

    Neki novi Srbi dolaze.
    (Tom L'Orizi, 5 February 2020 12:15)

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  17. Since our own people don't want to till the land, why don't we give these folks a chance?
    (Make Serbia Great, 3 February 2020 18:36)

    It is all politics and is geared to fear of simple people from unknown and possible competition.
    My competition are different folks, hence different competition.
    (Ataman, 4 February 2020 08:43)

    I disagree with you both. I grew up in the UK and witnessed the arrival of immigrants. They have now taken over most of the major cities, so much so that they do not resemble anything British. It is not “simple people” fearing the unknown. It is intelligent people who have seen what has happened across Europe and want to stop it. Life is not all about economic advancement. If that were the case then why don’t we send our children to work? Why don’t we work in the evening after completing our day jobs? Why don’t we work at weekends as well? The truth is that life is about living and enjoying our lives, our families, friends and communities. Mass immigration destroys European communities and replaces them with Third-World communities. The indigenous peoples of European are being abused by their economic and political Masters and must now fight for their survival.
    (Michael Thomas, 5 February 2020 11:54)

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  18. Probably better not to outsource and just take these migrants. Do not know, no good solution.
    (Ataman, 3 February 2020 15:43)
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    Why make every problem in the world our problem?
    Send them back. Most of them are NOT refugees but a burden.
    (Peggy, 4 February 2020 08:40)

    In the majority they are the local middle class which is as poor, as the lowest of the low on Balkans and not refugees.
    The problem is that it is not feasible to send them back because of technical and legal reasons.
    The "authorities" can't even sort out who-is-who.
    Without clean law in place there is either a lawless practice in Hungary or they occupy the empty houses in northern Vojvodina.

    Which encourages the local police corruption (police demands protection money from illegal occupants) and locals running away (the area is not safe anymore).

    The same time what I do not understand: there is a huge load of U.S. military and secret service intelligence officers near Uroševac. Their favorite pastime in Summer is very secretive and very active girl-watching in Ohrid.

    Why not make them work on something useful?
    Housing, medical service, military surveillance is there.

    Who has the lion share of responsibility for the calamities in Central Asia, Middle East, Africa? I would say: "Bush".

    Who has the lion share of economic benefit from Camp Bondsteel?
    I would say: "Dick Cheney and indirectly - Bush".

    Do they have any shame? No.
    (Ataman, 5 February 2020 10:52)

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  19. Probably better not to outsource and just take these migrants. Do not know, no good solution.
    (Ataman, 3 February 2020 15:43)
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    Why make every problem in the world our problem?
    Send them back. Most of them are NOT refugees but a burden.
    What do we want Europe to look like? The middle east? Africa? Centuries of European civilization and culture will disappear and a culture so primitive and hostile will emerge. Do we really want to turn Europe into that?
    Anyone who wants to live in that culture can find it there already.
    (Peggy, 4 February 2020 08:40)

    Spoken like a true racist!
    (Make Serbia Great, 5 February 2020 08:06)

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  20. Since our own people don't want to till the land, why don't we give these folks a chance?
    (Make Serbia Great, 3 February 2020 18:36)

    It is all politics and is geared to fear of simple people from unknown and possible competition.
    My competition are different folks, hence different competition.
    (Ataman, 4 February 2020 08:43)

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  21. Probably better not to outsource and just take these migrants. Do not know, no good solution.
    (Ataman, 3 February 2020 15:43)
    ---…--
    Why make every problem in the world our problem?
    Send them back. Most of them are NOT refugees but a burden.
    What do we want Europe to look like? The middle east? Africa? Centuries of European civilization and culture will disappear and a culture so primitive and hostile will emerge. Do we really want to turn Europe into that?
    Anyone who wants to live in that culture can find it there already.
    (Peggy, 4 February 2020 08:40)

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  22. There are a lot of abandoned homesteads where the refugees could establish themselves. Since our own people don't want to till the land, why don't we give these folks a chance?
    (Make Serbia Great, 3 February 2020 18:36)

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  23. Don’t call MIGRANTS people something which they are not. They’re invaders on a mission to Islamify the lovely creation of EU. Then again this is all good and well as it will speed up EU’s demise. Oh well.
    (Fast Track, 3 February 2020 17:24)

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  24. The unskilled labor and illegal immigrants are the (much) lesser evil. At best, they will live from welfare. Not OK, but should be perfectly acceptable.

    At worst, they will compete with unskilled labor all over Europe. See Serbian waiters and cleaners on Malta.

    In both cases land up in poor areas of Paris, Brussels, Stockholm. It's bad, but there is money.

    The methodic outsourcing of high-value work to India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and to lesser degree to China hurts the skilled workforce and is much-much worse than that.

    In addition to the economic harm the quality of the outsourced work is very low.

    Probably better not to outsource and just take these migrants. Do not know, no good solution.
    (Ataman, 3 February 2020 15:43)

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