1. The point is that there is nothing Albanian discovered there predating Serbs so if anyone wants to take a claim to that land it should be the Romans. Let's wait and see if that happens but it certainly cannot be you.
    (Peggy, 25 September 2017 03:43)

    I never claimed anything in Kosovo, dear. But I agree with you that Albanians or Serbs can't claim that land since we are in agreement that Romans were there first.
    (icj1, 27 September 2017 16:40)


    The Illyrians (proto-Albanians) predate the Romans in the Balkans. Serbs are relative newcomers, the Slavs did not arrive till the 6th century A.D. It is not clear if the Serbs were the first Slavs to appear on the Balkan peninsula. There exist many Illyrian artifacts and they certainly predate the relatively new Serbian ones.
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  2. Archeological finds from earliest history are showing Serbian presence in Kosovo from earliest times.
    (Popnbgd17, 22 September 2017 01:14)

    OK, and archeological finds from earliest history are also showing Roman presence in Kosovo from earliest times. So what's your point?!
    (icj1, 23 September 2017 06:03)

    My point is very obvious...It destroys your claim that Serbs came after Albanians in Kosovo and that Serbs somehow have stolen Kosovo from Albanians...On the contrary,It is vice versa...
    (Popnbgd17, 24 September 2017 01:28)

    I never claimed "that Serbs came after Albanians in Kosovo and that Serbs somehow have stolen Kosovo from Albanians". So, it's not clear what you are talking about. You are very confused, dear!

    In any case, if your point is that if X came after Y in a given territory, then X stole that territory from Y, that means that Serbs also stole Kosovo from the Romans, since Serbs came in Kosovo after the Romans!
    (icj1, 27 September 2017 16:46)

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  3. The point is that there is nothing Albanian discovered there predating Serbs so if anyone wants to take a claim to that land it should be the Romans. Let's wait and see if that happens but it certainly cannot be you.
    (Peggy, 25 September 2017 03:43)

    I never claimed anything in Kosovo, dear. But I agree with you that Albanians or Serbs can't claim that land since we are in agreement that Romans were there first.
    (icj1, 27 September 2017 16:40)

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  4. @Pedro

    The Albanian flag is a modified version of the Byzantine Christian Flag and the red and black were the colours of the Kastrioti family crest. Albanians can't be gypsies since we had the lowest concentration of Gypsies in the whole region. The whole Caucasian theory is obsolete as there were three places callled Albania in the ancient wold, the modern state of Albania in the Balkans, Caucasian Albania and Ancient Scotland. By your smart thinking all Spaniards and Portuguese people come from the Caucasus mountains as the area was once known As the Kingdom Of Iberia. poeple like you who study their history from Serbian nationalistic blogs and Wikipedia are the reason Albanians will be able to take more of your precious Serbia, because we have real history and archeology to back our claims. Albanians are definitely not your enemy, as the true enemy is your own government.
    (Guest, 25 September 2017 12:38)

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  5. Albanians came from "Caucasian Albania" like gypsies and horse workers for the ottomans. They did not originate from Balkans. They were allowed to settle in the area, but than started to attack, steal and terrorize everyone around them.

    Just look at the Caucasian Albanian flag. Its the same colour as the Balkan Albanian flag (red and black), its just that they have a goat on it, and the Fake albanians of europe stole the double headed eagle from the slavs and greeks.

    They even try to steal history, by claiming that they are illyrians, but have no case, as it has been proven throughout history that the Serbs were called back in the day "Illyro Serbs". The entire Albanian nationality and existance in the balkans has been a big lie. They scream and yell thinking it will change history. They are nothing but criminals.
    Biggest mistake the Serbs did as a nation was to allow them to live next to the serbs as neighbours.
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  6. OK, and archeological finds from earliest history are also showing Roman presence in Kosovo from earliest times. So what's your point?!
    (icj1, 23 September 2017 06:03)
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    The point is that there is nothing Albanian discovered there predating Serbs so if anyone wants to take a claim to that land it should be the Romans. Let's wait and see if that happens but it certainly cannot be you.
    (Peggy, 25 September 2017 03:43)

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  7. It is so obvious that Slavs were living next to the Greeks but Albanians came much later. Serbs look different and you can see how many Albanians share a bit of DNA with their neighbors, this came through rape and kidnapping - what they do best!
    (guest, 24 September 2017 02:00)

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  8. Reply to icj1:My point is very obvious...It destroys your claim that Serbs came after Albanians in Kosovo and that Serbs somehow have stolen Kosovo from Albanians...On the contrary,It is vice versa...
    (Popnbgd17, 24 September 2017 01:28)

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  9. "Return all stolen Albanian land - then talk about sovereignty"
    (BLACK EAGLE, 23 September 2017 11:21)

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  10. Im sorry, but the majority of the population in Kosovo is Albanian. If Crimea voted to to join Russia and you respect that than why cant you respect Kosovo wanting to be free from Serbia? It is a very simple concept.
    (Mirsad Curri, 23 September 2017 06:04)

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  11. Archeological finds from earliest history are showing Serbian presence in Kosovo from earliest times.
    (Popnbgd17, 22 September 2017 01:14)

    OK, and archeological finds from earliest history are also showing Roman presence in Kosovo from earliest times. So what's your point?!
    (icj1, 23 September 2017 06:03)

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  12. Go home slavs Russia is waiting with open arms, and to the genius who claims Albanians are middle easterners how about your Mongolian blood why don't we have a conversation about that chinky.
    (Guest, 22 September 2017 18:01)

    RUSSIA DOES NOT MIND LOYAL CITIZENS BUT YOU HAVE THE SAME CHANCE FOR REPARTIATION AS ALL YOUR Y-DNA (J1, J2, G2A, R1A ...) ARE DERIVATIVES FROM RUSA.

    MONGOLS AND SLAVS HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON - SEE THEIR HAPPLOGROUPS ! AS FOR THE MONGOL-TATARS THOSE ARE GREEK A WORD MEGALEON/GREAT AND RUS TARK AND HIS SISTER TARA. BY THE WAY TRUE MONGOL CALL THEMSELVES HALK PEOPLE AND THEY FIRST HEARD OF THE MONGOLS IN 19 CENTURY ... FROM THE RUSSIANS ... AND IN 1936 FROM STALIN'S HISTORY OF USSR THEY FIRST HEARD ABOUT THE SLAVIIC/MONOLIAN EMPIRE AND GENGIS KHAN = KHAN OF THE KHANS = GEORGI DANILOVIC = KARL I = ST.GEORGE.
    (rote kapelle, 22 September 2017 20:38)

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  13. Go home slavs Russia is waiting with open arms, and to the genius who claims Albanians are middle easterners how about your Mongolian blood why don't we have a conversation about that chinky.
    (Guest, 22 September 2017 18:01)

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  14. Albanians have their homeland in Kurdistan. They came to Balkans like bands of gypsies!! (albsRkurds, 22 September 2017 05:03)

    HOW DO YOU KNOW IT ?
    MOST OF THEIR HAPPLOGROUPS TAKE BIRTH IN RUSSIA.
    BEFORE 20-TH CENTURY WE HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH THEM.
    AND THAT'S WHY OUR ANCESTORS SETTLED SIDE BY SIDE ...
    PRAYED SIDE BY SIDE ... AND MAYBE FOUGHT SIDE BY SIDE ...
    (rote kapelle, 22 September 2017 15:38)

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  15. Albanians have their homeland in Kurdistan. They came to Balkans like bands of gypsies!!
    (albsRkurds, 22 September 2017 05:03)

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  16. Therefore it is impossible for Kosovo to break international law until Kosovo is a state.
    (icj1, 21 September 2017 16:04)

    The Helsinki accords, of which Yugoslavia, and now its successor state Serbia, were signors of, clearly states that the signors to the accord cannot change their respective borders by force.
    (njegos, 21 September 2017 17:44)

    Sure (assuming that by "Yugoslavia", you mean the FRY, not the SFRY).

    Now back to your original statement that Kosovo "broke international law". That statement of yours is in contradiction with your other statement that Kosovo is a part of Serbia. A part of a state, by definition, can't violate international law because international law defines the legal responsibilities of states in their conduct with each other.

    You want to have it both ways; i.e. Kosovo to be part of Serbia and Kosovo to also be a subject of international law, at the same time. But you can't have your cake and eat it too, dear :)
    (icj1, 22 September 2017 04:45)

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  17. There was no genocide in Kosovo....Even if there was,it happened to Serbs,not Albanians...It is desperate claim of Albanians that there was a genocide,because they can't justify independence of Kosovo...They are also trying to destroy churches,monasteries and other Serbian objects from the earliest history because of their laughable claim they are indigenous to the region...
    (popnbgd17, 22 September 2017 01:39)

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  18. Kosovo was never annexed or taken from Albania...Albanians have no arguments..Their claim that they are indigenous to Kosovo is absurd and laughable...Archeological finds from earliest history are showing Serbian presence in Kosovo from earliest times.Serbian graves,churches,monasteries and numerous cultural objects of Serbian origin!There are no traces of Albanian culture in Kosovo in early middle ages...Where are Albanian graves,churches or any other cultural objects from early history?There are none..
    (Popnbgd17, 22 September 2017 01:14)

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  19. Lol no dear, it does not mean that every region has the right to independence.

    Not every region was a yugoslav autonomy with full rights to leave the union like kosovo did, not every region was a UN protectorate with its own rezolution that did not prohibit the right to independence like kosovo did.

    Not every region went through genocide and segregation like kosovo did, and not every region was illegally annexed from albania to serbia. And finally, not every region was recognized by more than half of the world.

    The right to be indepen. for kosovo, palestine, tibet, kurdistan, israel, ireland and basque country, is not the same as wannabe independent " countries" like texas, andalusia, crimea or ossetia.
    (People of Kosovo, 21 September 2017 22:11)

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  20. Return the men, women, and children you ethnically cleansed from the dead and we'll talk about sovereignty .. the Serbs of Yugoslavia are terrorists anyone who defends or dismisses their actions is just as bad. None of your neighbors like you we just put up with your inconsistent ramblings because theirs nothing good on TV an we really enjoy watching this circus you call a government.
    (My Dear Serviant,, 21 September 2017 21:24)

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  21. I see that everybody is voting my comment as poor. The truth hurts I know.
    (C, 21 September 2017 19:23)

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  22. From icj1 (aka Ina) The Serb-Hater: " Therefore it is impossible for Kosovo to break international law until Kosovo is a state."

    Wrong again Ina dear. The Helsinki accords, of which Yugoslavia, and now its successor state Serbia, were signors of, clearly states that the signors to the accord cannot change their respective borders by force. I'm not sure what dream world you live in, but any sane person (except a Serb-Hater like you) would agree that Yugoslavia's borders were altered by force. Time for you to enroll in that international law class that you mentioned earlier. I hope they offer a remedial version so that you might actually understand the subject matter. You're too funny Ina!
    (njegos, 21 September 2017 17:44)

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  23. the constitution of Serbia, of which Kosovo is a part, is a part, clearly states that individual republics have the right to secede if the majority of the country's citizens approve the secession. Kosovo broke away without any vote of the citizenry of Yugoslavia nor of Serbia and thus broke international law.
    (njegos, 20 September 2017 21:34)

    Your comment is contradictory.

    If Kosovo is a part of Serbia, then Kosovo is not a subject of international law since international law defines the legal responsibilities of states in their conduct with each other. Therefore it is impossible for Kosovo to break international law until Kosovo is a state. Sure, Kosovo might have broken Serbia's law, but Serbia's law is not international law.

    You might need an intro level class to international law, dear :)
    (icj1, 21 September 2017 16:04)

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  24. Does that mean every province ,region,or City has a right to vote for independence )))
    (sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 21 September 2017 11:05)

    According to Russia, yes.
    (icj1, 21 September 2017 15:47)

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  25. Rote, Stop flooding B92 with Russian cartoons.
    (US Special Forces, 21 September 2017 15:34)

    PLEASE ... [link]
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  26. РТ : I see Russians are already shaking in their boots. Trump may just be their worst nightmare.

    STUPID ! HOW CAN YOU IMAGINE THE RUSSIANS SHAKING THEIR BOOTS !

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    Rote,
    Stop flooding B92 with Russian cartoons.
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  27. Kalashnikov has always been a bit crazy othrewise he would talk about a compromise over the land. Now he behaves like a Shqiptar offering everything or nnothing choice.

    From my point more interesting is the foto in the article whwere we can see the church of Ivan 4 Grozny where he was burried as Vasily Blazhenny. It's a unique church built after the reconquista of Kazan and Astrakhan who had made a plot against Moscow to suppost the Germans and other protestants in 1572. it's unique as there are no icons inside or outside and in a great degree it looks like a mosque. It was the time when the church wasn't split yet and the discussion was world wide. But soon the Catholics de facto broke away. Like some other sects they were against icons and they still have a limited use of them. After the fatal 1613 when the German (Perm) Cossacks occupied Moscow for 170 years the Ottomans let Islam become a separate religion on the lands that refused to obey the Romanovs. Balkans were one such land.

    The monument on the foto is not less interesting as it was to Minin and Pozharsky who to my mind have never existed and so strange are their names and biographies as well as their role in the war of 1612 that in a great degree reminds the war of 1812. Even the monument was built in 1817 when it was time to build monuments to heroes of quite another war.
    (rote kapelle, 21 September 2017 15:30)

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  28. (sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia,

    South Albania? My dear let me tell to you that for more than 10 years the Albanians of Greek origin in Albania voted for Edi Rama.
    And Greece was so angry that decide to remove the Greek citizenship to a lot of Albanians of Greek origin. They are our people! We never killed them.

    Greece still have the low of war with Albania because she has to face an international court for the part she annexed undsevedly.
    Albania don't fear nothing.
    Sorry disapoint you!
    (Joni, 21 September 2017 13:41)

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  29. As Kosovo-Metohija is and always will be an integral part of Serbia, the referendum would have been voted on by the entire country of Serbia. Seems your ignorance overwhelms your ability to utilize common sense. No worries. We Serbs expect nothing less from backward and subhuman Albanians.
    (Dragan, 20 September 2017 18:04) #

    Only people in Kosova would have the right to vote, just like in Crimea and not entire Serbia or entire Russia for Crimea.
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    Does that mean every province ,region,or City has a right to vote for independence )))
    Like East Croatia , East Bosnia ,South Albania ,etc ))
    Their would be over 1,000,000 countries )))
    The whole of country population should have the right to vote ,like the whole of Spain should vote for Catalonia .
    In Crimea ,the while if Ukranian should have voted .As well in Kosovo,the whole of Serbian population should have right to vote .
    I too , want independence in Liverpool city Sydney ,where Serbian community is high and lives.
    (sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 21 September 2017 11:05)

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  30. Kosovo has no right to be independent...Because there is no Kosovo nation or Kosovars...Serbs,albanians and other ethnic groups live there....Albanians already have their own state and it is Albania....Kosovo would have a right to declare independence if,for example,Kurds live there.Because Kurds are the nation that don't have their own state...This is like Turks in Germany want to declare independence of Bavaria or any other region in Germany....or Morrocans want to declare independence of south of France...I know this is painful for Albanians but this is the fact...
    (popnbgd17, 21 September 2017 05:08)

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  31. What does this dummy call Russian soldiers armed to the teeth walking around on the streets of Crimea during this so-called referendum?!
    (Avni, 20 September 2017 20:37)

    Strah i trepet za sheeptare.
    (boris, 21 September 2017 03:18)

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  32. Yugoslavia collapsed due to Serb greed in illegally acquiring voting rights from puppets installed in Montenegro ,Kosova and Vojvodina.

    Serbia legally only had one vote but due to Serb inherent greediness it was not enough.....

    Serbs manipulated the Federation and passed their own self interest agenda and blocked other members legislation.

    Yugoslavia was then doomed....

    All former Yugoslav members declared independence including Kosova.

    Over 92% of the population voted in a referendum for independence.

    Hypocrites in Serbia and Russia want Crimea 's WILL OF THE PEOPLE respected.

    They forget Kosova has that same right.
    (Azir, 21 September 2017 02:59)

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  33. Return Kosovo to Serbia, you can't return Kosovo to Serbia- UN1244 KOSOVO IS SERBIA.Sorry Albos.
    (bobby, 21 September 2017 02:18)

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  34. How about we sort this whole mess out once and for all and return all Balkan Slavs back to Russia. Win, win for all.
    (Guest, 21 September 2017 01:12)

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  35. Lol how about you give Albania back all of its land that others annexed from then we talk about sovereignety.

    How about you take back all the serbs you brought in the balkans and we talk about peace.
    (People of Kosovo, 20 September 2017 22:21)

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  36. Return Crimea to Turkey than talk about sovereignty. Return Serbia to Hungary than talk about sovereignty. Return Kaliningrad back to Germany than talk about sovereignty.
    (Free, 20 September 2017 22:06)

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  37. РТ : I see Russians are already shaking in their boots. Trump may just be their worst nightmare.

    STUPID ! HOW CAN YOU IMAGINE THE RUSSIANS SHAKING THEIR BOOTS !

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  38. From 'the truth': "Only people in Kosova would have the right to vote, just like in Crimea and not entire Serbia or entire Russia for Crimea."

    You couldn't be more wrong. The Yugoslav constitution and later the constitution of Serbia, of which Kosovo is a part, is a part, clearly states that individual republics have the right to secede if the majority of the country's citizens approve the secession. Kosovo broke away without any vote of the citizenry of Yugoslavia nor of Serbia and thus broke international law. Madeleine Albright even admitted that the bombing of Serbia, which aided in the secession of Kosovo, broke international law as a UN resolution was never given for this action.

    If you're going to use the screen name 'truth,' please try to at least come close to the truth when you comment.
    (njegos, 20 September 2017 21:34)

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  39. As Kosovo-Metohija is and always will be an integral part of Serbia, the referendum would have been voted on by the entire country of Serbia. Seems your ignorance overwhelms your ability to utilize common sense. No worries. We Serbs expect nothing less from backward and subhuman Albanians.
    (Dragan, 20 September 2017 18:04)

    Are you insinuating that citizens all across Ukraine voted in and for Crimean independence?
    (just another human being with higher IQ than YOU, 20 September 2017 21:28)

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  40. ....And if Trump was "aiming" at Crimea, Kalashnikov continued, "he would have to know that the peninsula became a part of Russia based on the will of the people in a referendum, without a single victim and a civil war...."

    What does this dummy call Russian soldiers armed to the teeth walking around on the streets of Crimea during this so-called referendum?!
    (Avni, 20 September 2017 20:37)

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  41. Some Serbs are really delusional. Just because Kosova was part of Serbia in the 1300s to your prince Dshan does not make that land Serbian 1000 years later by this logic Italy and Turkey should claim all the Balkans because they were a part of their empires.all of this talk about the heart and soul of Serbia it's all propaganda by today's politicians and the nationalists buy it Albanians were always here and are here today and will always be here. Live with it
    (C, 20 September 2017 19:14)

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  42. As Kosovo-Metohija is and always will be an integral part of Serbia, the referendum would have been voted on by the entire country of Serbia. Seems your ignorance overwhelms your ability to utilize common sense. No worries. We Serbs expect nothing less from backward and subhuman Albanians.
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    Only people in Kosova would have the right to vote, just like in Crimea and not entire Serbia or entire Russia for Crimea.
    (the truth, 20 September 2017 18:36)

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  43. As Kosovo-Metohija is and always will be an integral part of Serbia, the referendum would have been voted on by the entire country of Serbia. Seems your ignorance overwhelms your ability to utilize common sense. No worries. We Serbs expect nothing less from backward and subhuman Albanians.
    (Dragan, 20 September 2017 18:04)

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  44. I see Russians are already shaking in their boots. Trump may just be their worst nightmare. Be careful what you wish for.
    (PT, 20 September 2017 17:45)

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  45. If referendum was allowed than in Kosova, it will have become independent without any victims.
    (the truth, 20 September 2017 16:26)

    He has also forgot to mention that armed Serbs controlled by Belgrade used civilians as target practice without a UN mandate.
    (another truth, 20 September 2017 17:11)

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  46. And if Trump was "aiming" at Crimea, Kalashnikov continued, "he would have to know that the peninsula became a part of Russia based on the will of the people in a referendum, without a single victim and a civil war."

    If referendum was allowed than in Kosova, it will have become independent without any victims.
    (the truth, 20 September 2017 16:26)

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