1. To Shocked Albanian:

    If you knew one tenth of what Greeks did in the period 1991-1999 for Serbs and the bad position we put Greece to in order to help them, you would have no doubt that there is a real friendship between us and Serbs. And even if just 1 single Serbian life was saved because of what we did, it was all worth it. But it doesn't matter what you believe or what I believe, Greece officially supports Serbia and that's a fact.
    (Andreas, 8 December 2014 15:23)

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  2. Well, then back your opinion as united, not as separate :). Not as some Greeks in Thessaloníki think different, some in Kavala think different, some in Athens think different.
    Yes, there is a brotherhood with you, Greeks and Serbs, but not as you think like that :).
    (Shocked Albanian!, 8 December 2014 15:06)

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  3. To Shocked Albanian-2nd message:

    About Kosovo's non recognition of Northern Cyprus.
    (a) It doesn't really matter if you recognize it, because Kosovo is not internationally recognized, so there is no problem for Greece if you do.
    (b) The only country on the planet that recognizes Northern Cyprus is Turkey. it's been like that since 1974. So it would look weird if you recognized it yourself.
    (c) Albania and Albanians don't have friends. They have allies. Allies come and go. Your non-recognition of Northern Cyprus relies on political and diplomatic grounds, it's not because you respect how Greeks feel. How do you know how Greeks feel? When was the last time you met a Greek from Cyprus? And this is what you fail to understand: Allies come and go. But friends stay. Serbia has friends, not allies. It doesn't have many friends, but it has eternal friends. No country, and especially Russia and to a lesser extend Greece, can be week for ever. When those eternal friends become stronger, they always remember Serbia. One day your current "allies" will not find you useful anymore. When that day comes, you will appreciate more the friendships between nations rather than the political games and allies between governments.
    (Andreas, 8 December 2014 14:41)

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  4. To Shocked Albanian:

    Balkans is a problematic area, but Greeks ADORE Serbs. You think our feelings for them rely on our religion? People from Belarus, Georgia, Armenia, Russia, Bulgaria are Orthodox too, but you'll never hear a Greek expressing as warm emotions as we do for Serbs. The Serbian-Greek relationship is beyond religion. If God asks Greeks to stop caring about Serbs, Greeks will become atheists. This relationship between the two nations has put our governments in a difficult spot in the past. See, when Greeks sense that the Greek government does not support Serbia enough, Greeks react in a very bad way, in order to send our government a message, a message that says "either help Serbia now, or your political career is over". It's not the media, it's not any propaganda, it's not the Church that promotes this relationship. It's the people. By the way, I was born and raised in Greece, I came to Holland only because of my profession. When I say that Greeks support Serbs, I know exactly what I'm talking about. If you met Greeks in Pristina who don't support Serbs, that's because they are scared. If you met Greeks of Greece loving Orthodox Albanians in Southern Albania, that's only because those Albanians have Greek origins. My father was with a humanitarian aid 4 times in Serbia in 1999, I was at college back then and I went with students and Professors in Serbia in 1999, our Red Cross, doctors, nurses, journalists, even singers were there. We have our own opinion.
    (Andreas, 8 December 2014 14:31)

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  5. (2)

    Also there is a thing in Kosovo. ISIS and other organization recruited many people from here to fight in Syria and Iraq. It came from the economical damages that it had impacted the Kosovar society. War damaged us a lot. The independence, if you consider it politically, you can realise that it was un-negotiated, and for sure it would bring peace, as it brought. Trust me, you live in Netherlands, I can leave you my contact number or email, come to Kosovo and you can see that, nothing that is reported in media happens in Kosovo. No one provokes, even if you take the Serbian flag, and come inside the center of Prishtina, no one would care. The only thing that is happening in our countries is the damages that politicians are bringing to our countries. Thats why, I am pro German intervening, to stop corruption, and also to bring countries together to work for different projects to bring economies on their tracks. I am happy that I heard that Trans-Anatolian (Trans-Adriatic on Eu Side) Pipeline will cross from Greece to Albania, but actually I dont like that Kosovo, Serbia and others are excluded from this pipeline which goes directly to Italy. I mean there are several issues that we need to debate rather than discussing about propaganda that our media serves. Do not forget that also media has to be financed for somewhere, they do not work for free, or they do not take finances from advertisements. I work in an advertising agency and I know that. Cheers to everyone!
    (Shocked Albanian!, 8 December 2014 13:21)

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  6. Andreas, trust me, there is no beloved people in Balkans. Balkan is a place where all the mess happened during the history. I have at least, do not know the exact number, but hundreds of Greek friends, some live in Prishtine, some live in Gracanica, some of them in Tirana, some of them are diplomatic people here in Kosovo, and others in Greece. I have talked to them a lot about this issue. This is not that Serbs are your beloved ones, the religion makes you friendly, but not beloved ones, because also many Greeks love too much Albanians from South of Albania who are Orthodox. It is normal. But, as I don't want to mention their names, many of them also are pro Kosovo independence because actually it proves the existence of country of Republic of Cyprus. As I want to mention also a thing, Kosovo does not recognize North Cyprus as a country, which Kosovo respects Cyprus territorial integrity. You see, there is no hate for Greeks, also not for Serbs. I totally condemn things like Spraying Churches, and other stuff like that, because actually it violates people not the country. But, still, we need to concentrate on how to build our economies because now we are poor. Lets not talk about Turks, because actually they are in very good position in both sides.

    TO BE CONTINUED.
    (Shocked Albanian!, 8 December 2014 13:14)

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  7. To Shocked Albanian:

    Ok, Greece is not the country that isolated Turkey. Do you know that Greece was the ONLY country to actually support Turkey's candidacy in the EU? Do you know that we were the only country that refused to show racist pictures in our media (as opposed to ALL the western countries that totally humiliated Turkish when they asked to be considered as candidates in the EU the previous decade)? We didn't isolate Turkey, Turkey isolated itself. And the west liked that. And now that Israel sided with Greece, things got way worse for Turkey. But our target is not to isolate Turkey, we have gas and oil in WESTERN and SOUTHERN Greece. And we will drill it. It's really simple.

    About the Greek economy, you are right in what you say, but Greece is officially on the growth rate track (it was announced by the EU I think 2 weeks ago, I cans end you links). And drilling oil and gas is something that will most certainly help the Greek economy. Just the gas in Crete, in only one single island, is worth double the Greek debt. Let alone the gas in the western side and the oil reserves.

    Now about the relationship between Albania and Greece...you hurt our beloved ones. If you do that, there can be no good relationship between us.
    (Andreas, 8 December 2014 12:39)

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  8. To Shocked Albanian:

    Ok let me get this clear: Just because you send a link, it doesn't make you reliable. I sent you links from CNN Press (your American buddies), the European press, I can send you links from The World Bank, the IMF reports about Croatia, Albania etc.

    I could also follow your "steps" and send you some nationalistic Chinese links telling people that Chinese were the first to go to the Moon, but this is not a proof that they did, is it? So, be careful with what you send, because you only weaken your "arguments" and I started to feel a bit bored to be honest. Just because you don't WANT to admit it, it doesn't mean I have to say the same things to you all over again. And at the end of the day, if you think you are right in what you say, then why are you here harassing Serbs? If it's so "done" and you have no reason to worry about Albania and Kosovo and Metohija, why are you here man? Your presence here proves how much desperate all of you are. It's obvious. But you'd better get used to it.

    If you want to check whether what I say comes from Bloomberg...just go back to the links I sent you. None of them is an article from Bloomberg.

    One more time: The geopolitics game changed. Russia, Israel, Greece, Spain together with some 70 more countries support Serbia. GET OVER IT
    (Andreas, 8 December 2014 12:10)

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  9. What needs to be mentioned! I am not against Greeks. They are our neighbors. But what I want is the reality. Greece is facing a lot of problems, but their biggest problem is people like Andreas. They need to concentrate on how to build their economy, not how to isolate Turkey, because actually it is impossible, due to its geopolitical importance for NATO and US. But anyway Andreas, hope you find joy ABROAD for yourself and stupid propaganda rather than contributing for your own people.
    (Shocked Albanian!, 8 December 2014 11:53)

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  10. Probably the first channel that you watch in your TV is Boomerang or Cartoon Network. Because you do not want get back to reality, because you think that dreams are better. Even your Greeks are doubtful for your comments.

    My friend. I can freely send you this.

    [link]


    Your friends from Turkey, Croatia, Albania and Kosovo.
    (Shocked Albanian!, 8 December 2014 11:45)

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  11. To Shocked Albanian:

    (a) If Turkey has more oil reserves than Greece, then the question is very simple: Why Turkey doesn't drill it? And why Israel, Russia, China, the EU, the US and Egypt does not support Turkey on this and they support Israel, Greece, Cyprus and Egypt instead?

    (b) Oil is a second rate product now. Greece has natural gas too. Google it.

    (c) Military? Hahaha, not even the US can afford a military task by itself, that's why it always runs to NATO for help. Greece is in the EU, the EU rejects Turkey, the Greek land is EU LAND. The Greek borders is EU borders. Turkey is isolated now. Get used to it.

    Let me repeat, because apparently you need to read something twice to get it: The geopolitics game changed. Russia, Israel, Greece, Spain together with some 70 more countries support Serbia. GET OVER IT.
    (Andreas, 8 December 2014 10:59)

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  12. Andreas, Wanna see something


    There is a web page, which has very good analysis on countries, on economical, geographical,geopolitical and military importance. And check what actually happens here. You compare countries and there is a rank on it.

    That us compare something:

    Turkey vs Greece

    [link]

    Turkey 8th from 106 and Greece 57th of 106


    Lets compare Croatia vs Greece

    [link]

    Croatia 46th from 106 and Greece still 57th from 106.


    Ok now lets compare Croatia vs Motherland Superior and the unpredictable Serbia.

    [link]

    Croatia 46th from 106 and Motherland Superior and the unpredictable Serbia is 60th of 106.

    And do you know why I am very surprised. MOTHERRR OFF GODDDDDD. Turkey has more Oil reserves than you :O! Mother of God. Somebody needs to be crazy here to tell Andreas that he is very good guy :) haha. It means that, Turkey and Croatia are kings for Greece, Cyprus and Serbia. It is a fact. Put it in your mind!
    (Shocked Albanian!, 8 December 2014 10:38)

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  13. To Shocked Albanian:

    The EU pays for the Greek-Israeli pipeline...how come you don't know that in Albania? What do your journalists tell you on the news anyway? How many Serbs you killed in Kosovo and Metohija to sell their organs?

    The geopolitics game changed. Israel, Russia, China, Greece, Spain together with some 70 more countries on the planet support Serbia. GET OVER IT.
    (Andreas, 8 December 2014 09:43)

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  14. My Turkish Bro Militant Turkish.
    He thinks on transportinf gas and oil via Wifi. Hahahhaha. Something very science fiction. Do you know that still the analysis didn't show up for the gas reserves. Do you know why? They didn't have money to pay it. Hahahha
    (Shocked Albanian, 7 December 2014 14:03)

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  15. To "Militant Turk"

    The oil and gas I speak about belongs to Turkey? Ahahaha, the oil and gas in WESTERN Greece? The oil and gas in the island of Crete and the sea between Greece, ISRAEL and EGYPT? Hahaha. I guess geography is not your favorite topic. Greece is the top investor in Serbia. It started in 2000, because Serbia asked us to and even in 2011, the worst year of the financial crisis we kept investing in Serbia. Do you think that we need anybody's permission to have our FDI (foreign direct investment) there once we build the pipeline with Israel? And don't tell me you didn't know that Greece and Israel are about to start building a pipeline together...Don't tell me you didn't know that in WESTERN Greece Italy wants to finance the Greek pipeline there (that's another pipeline, don't get confused, WESTERN is different than SOUTHERN and southern is different than EASTERN). And by the way, your Prime Minister was yesterday in Athens. He was telling us that we are good friends and neighbors and that he really wants to become a closer friend to us. LOL.
    (Andreas, 7 December 2014 10:48)

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  16. To "Oh, yeah"

    I live in the Netherlands because of my job. It is impossible to live anywhere else on the planet, because of the job I'm doing. We are approximately 10.5 million Greeks who live in Greece and 1.5 million Greeks who live abroad. And have NO DOUBT: Any Greek in Greece, in the Netherlands, in North Pole or in New Zealand supports and love Serbia. I don't need to explain that to you, Serbs know what I'm talking about. You don't, because no one has ever felt like that for your country and no one ever will.
    (Andreas, 7 December 2014 10:41)

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  17. 52%of Albanians worldwide live in Greece

    Andreas, can you tell me how many Albanians live in Greece? is it 3 million , 5 million?
    (Cry me a river, 6 December 2014 19:43)

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  18. Now, if Toma's photo is not that of a deer's stare caught in the headlights, i don't know what is!
    (The Count of Kosova, 6 December 2014 16:58)

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  19. Andreas, 5 December 2014 17:30)
    Lets see a Greek living in the Netherlands comes on a Serb site to trash Albanians and Croatians, sounds a little hokey to me. Then you speak of we Greeks and the number of Albanians immigrating to Greece and when Greece builds its pipeline the we will take care of Serbs.

    Sounds like you tried to hard to create some type of super scenario that was way too complex for you to carry out. Maybe some medication can help.
    (Oh, yeah, 6 December 2014 11:35)

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  20. And once we start the gas pipeline ...guess who will be the first to think of...SERBIA. I'm sorry man, but Greeks really love Serbs and we will do everything we can to support them.
    (Andreas, 5 December 2014 16:07)

    Andreas,
    The oil and gas you speak of belongs to Turkey. Even if it was yours, how would you get to Serbia, Macedonia would not allow Greece access to its land.
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  21. To Shocked Albanian

    Is cut-rate irony the best you can do when you run out of arguments? Hahaha, I like you, you remind me of the Albos I used to have in my neighborhood in Greece. Naïve and bitter. Super powers we might not be, but the super powers are all over Greece and Cyprus, because of the gas and oil sitting in our sea. And the 52% of the Albos worldwide who chose to migrate to Greece should have chosen to migrate to a super power instead. But you didn't, did you? We will see in the near future where Albania will be and where Serbia will stand. Be patient. I am very.
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  22. "if Croatia is so good, how come 52% of the Albanian immigrants worldwide live in Greece?"

    The end of the conversation. The end of debate. The end of the world. The end of everything. The end of whatever happened in this world. What we have realized with that word is tremendously bad. Serbia you will be a superpower. God Bless Serbia and Greece the worlds super powers.
    (Shocked Albanian!, 5 December 2014 17:11)

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  23. To "Albanian Warrior" - second message

    Croats are Kings for Greeks? Naaah,

    Croatia which is not (officially admitted) in a financial crisis has 51.6% youth unemployment. [link]
    Croatia's minimum wage is merely 400 euros (in Greece it's about 700). Oh mean, if this is how Croatia is under no crisis, it makes me wonder how it will be during a crisis!
    And by the way, if Croatia is so good, how come 52% of the Albanian immigrants worldwide live in Greece? Man, PLEASE go to Croatia all of you!
    (Andreas, 5 December 2014 16:21)

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  24. To Albanian Warrior:

    CilLer? LOL, the woman is about to get her retirement from some University in Turkey, the world has changed since then buddy, haven't you noticed?

    You want facts about geopolitics? Are you trying to tell me that Albos have no idea about the biggest gas pipeline which is about to be built? Haha I'll show you some facts then
    Firstly, let me show you the scientific estimates so far just about gas (let alone oil) [link]
    The second link iS about Israel, Greece and Cyprus (they also mention the summit that Egypt, Greece and Cyprus signed in the past). Oh and by the way the name "Cyprus" is the official name of the GREEK side of the island. The Turkish side (recognized as independent only by Turkey on the whole planet) is called "Northern Cyprus". So when you read "Cyprus", you can freely understand "Greece". [link]
    Third link about Cyprus, Israel and RUSSIA! [link]
    Do you want me to send you about the EU and China? About the US? Well, when Israel wants the US always follow, you know that right?

    And once we start the gas pipeline ...guess who will be the first to think of...SERBIA. I'm sorry man, but Greeks really love Serbs and we will do everything we can to support them.
    (Andreas, 5 December 2014 16:07)

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  25. Aham aham ! Geopolitics !! Aham aham !! Right!! Yeah You are right !!!! Aham Aham!!!

    Let me remember you something.
    The year 1997.

    As deputy Prime Minister, Çiller declared that if Greece tries to divide Albania, it would have the Turkish Army in Athens 24 hours later.

    Still talking crap. You are talking to an Albanian now who is not so powerful and who does not care about your propaganda, but with that Turkish guy Truth Hurts, you need to be careful! They need 6 hours and then do you know what happens? Cyprus becomes Turkey! Nicosia becomes Lefkosa!

    Andreas.Andreas please. Be serious. Stop these Sarcasmic words. You are not even a strategic point anymore for anyone. Not for EU, not for NATO, not for Turkey, not for even Albania or Kosovo which are very small countries. When I heard from a report [link] that Greeks think that they are the most hard-working people in EU, I thought that I should kill myself, and bury my body somewhere in Mars.

    But anyway, show some facts about that Geopolitical crap that you are talking and mentioning, or it is just a simple justification of some kind of propaganda that Cartoon TV's of Greece tell you to distract from your huge economic collapse.

    Do you know what Croats are for Greeks?? KINGS!
    (Albanian Warrior :), 5 December 2014 15:04)

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  26. To the user with the nick name "Truth Hurts"

    It's obvious you are not Turkish, because if you were you wouldn't really make any comments after reading about the agreements between Greece, Cyprus, Israel, US, Russia etc. These agreements imply that Turkey is fully isolated in the geopolitics game. Ask your dad to explain that to you, little Ustasha. I made clear in my previous message that I don't waste my time with Albos and Croats. I know that the truth hurts, dear "truth hurts". If it didn't, there would be no Croats and Albos in this forum. The more you write here the more you prove that you are scared of Serbia. But you should also focus on your dispute with Slovenia, they humiliate you all the time in the Netherlands. They tell Europeans that Serbia and Slovenia has shown the world how much they democratized their societies, while Croatia is becoming more and more fascistic. Shame, shame, Croats. Check what we hear in the Netherlands about you [link]
    (Andreas, 5 December 2014 13:57)

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  27. " War criminal Seselj continues to walk the streets of Beograd like nothing ever happend. "

    Cry to the ICTY that released him, he is a free man and can walk, say and do whatever he likes just as anyone else.
    (Daniel, 5 December 2014 13:53)

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  28. @ Daniel.So tell me, why do you visit our sites? Dont you have your own?

    We appear on your site because we need to educate you Chetniks that what you say and do impacts the whole balkan region. War criminal Seselj continues to walk the streets of Beograd like nothing ever happend.

    First off, your only reason with being here is to spread antiserb propaganda, lies and provocation. Second if you call Seselj a warcriminal then please tell me what has he been convicted of? Yeah thats right, nothing and last but not least you have thousands of warcriminals walking the streets in Kosovo, Bosnia and Croatia without any problems, convicted warcriminals like Haradinaj, Gotovina, Oric, Norac and Markaca for instance so dont come here and give me that crap. Last but not least do you think you offend me or any other serb by calling us cetniks? Cetniks were serb soldiers loyal to the king and Draza was honored with numerous medals by the US and others. Take care and extradite your own warcriminals before your starting to point fingers at us. We dont want you here, get lost.
    (Daniel, 5 December 2014 13:49)

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  29. Andreas!

    Greetings from Istanbul, Turkey!

    ;)
    (Truth Hurts!, 5 December 2014 13:06)

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  30. Greetings to all Serbs from a Greek in the Netherlands. (Croats and Albos, don't bother to start a discussion with me, I am proud to be disliked for loving Serbs, so don't waste my time).
    Serbs, do you want to know what the IMF says about the economy in Croatia? Read the IMF report in plain English. Use that report to evaluate carefully the dangers of joining EU (because the Serbian economy is not different than the Croatian). And use this report every time ignorant Croats brag about their being a member-state in the European Union. [link]

    If Kosovo was theirs, they wouldn't blackmail you with dilemmas of the type "Either EU or Kosovo". Kosovo is yours, unless you say otherwise. China, Russia and 5 members of EU (together with some 70 more countries worldwide) support you. Israel, Greece, Cyprus, Russia, Egypt, China and US have signed agreements with each other regarding the geopolitics in the Greek, Israeli, Egyptian and Cypriot sea. EU had to follow, because they want a share from the pie (and when I say pie, read gas, oil but most importantly hydrocarbons). If you want to join EU, we will support you. And if you don't want to join EU we will support you. But if EU wants to trade Kosovo for money...maybe you should start asking yourselves why on Earth is EU so interested in a bunch of Muslims. You are our brothers and we will always be here for you. (My condolences for Marko)
    (Andreas, 5 December 2014 11:43)

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  31. Serbs should never join the EU, you don't need to. Look at Croatia, Estonia and Lithuania, they have the HIGHEST corruption index within the EU, according to the World Bank and the IMF. Greece had and still has way lower corruption than these countries and yet we had to deal with a crisis which occurred due to our corruption level. Croatia, Lithuania and Estonia will be in that position too. It's just a matter of time, because there are no requirements regarding the corruption index when you apply for joining the EU. Greece is officially back on the growth rate track, but that's only because of our "natural wealth" as the EU says. In other words, the EU is interested in the oil of the Aegean sea. The Serbian economy will not be better off by joining the EU. Slovenians regret joining the Union and Croats started having problems too. Croats tell you "boohoo we are in the EU and you are not" simply because they try desperately to say anything to hurt your feelings. Slovenians call Croats Nazis everywhere in Europe! Don't mind Croats, only Germans like them and no one in the EU likes Germans, especially the Dutch the Brits and the French. Serbia must always remember that Kosovo is Serbian terrain. Let the West destroy Slovenia and Croatia slowly, you don't need to follow that path. In a few years Cyprus and Greece will be the oil producers of Europe and all that with the EU's blessing! Be patient Serbs, all the others in the EU have "allies" or "friends". You have our love.
    (Elena, 5 December 2014 05:50)

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  32. @ Ian (Uk)

    (CONTINUED)

    Moreover, it is absolutely outrageous that, after so many years in prison, he has not been sentenced yett. I remember that a person is innocent until a court had not convicted him. So today, Seselj should be protected by the presumption of innocence.

    At the end even, at least in theory, the sentence could be 'not guilty'. I'd rather not comment on who would be responsible to pay compensation in that case. A primary feature that must have justice to be worthy of the name is the immediacy or repair within a reasonable time and in the Seselj case it is being violated this principle in a rude manner. So, in my opinion, Seselj should return as appropriate to The Hague and this Court should do its job at once, because we are all paying all those judges and prosecutors.

    Thanks.
    (Javier (Madrid, Spain), 5 December 2014 05:34)

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  33. @Ian (Uk)

    In Serbia it has been already said (I think it was Mr. Nikolic) that the transfer of Seselj TEMPORARILY to their country hides dark intentions by the Tribunal in The Hague so that Seselj should face his trial there

    About conspiracy theories I can not comment very much. I think we can only speculate about that. But I do remember that one of the reasons for the establishment of the International Court in The Hague was precisely that there were no guarantees that real justice were to be given in if processes for war crimes in the former Yugoslavia were held in countries which alleged criminals were nationals.

    Today, in Kosovo, a tutored and mentored country by The United States and Germany, which are the countries who lead the new Kosovar democracy, the processes that are pending open to members of the Kosovo political elite for crimes committed against Serb prisoners (Williamson dixit), there will not be held in Kosovo but probably in Holland. And EULEX and the judicial system in that country have not proceeded against any of the potential identified in the Williamson Report until, after years of research, they have been forced in some way by the findings of the Williamson Report.and the international pressure.

    (TO BE CONTINUED)
    (Javier (Madrid, Spain), 5 December 2014 05:31)

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  34. Stop using the word "chetniks" the way you people use it. The way you use it is theql communism period slurre. Tito revised history. During WWI those were the elite Royal Army troups, fighthing the AustroHungerians and the Germans in Serbia (and beating them and that' s one of the reasons the migthy Germany hates little Serbia).In WWI under general Mihajlovic they fought successfuly the SS divisions in Serbia, not in Croatia or any other place (that's the other reason Germany distaste Serbia). Germany says that they are done with their shameful past but I wouldn' t be sure of that.
    If there were not for communist lies...but the past is always revised by the Western power cronies.
    (sarah, 5 December 2014 00:58)

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  35. @ Daniel.So tell me, why do you visit our sites? Dont you have your own?

    We appear on your site because we need to educate you Chetniks that what you say and do impacts the whole balkan region. War criminal Seselj continues to walk the streets of Beograd like nothing ever happend. No country on Earth other than Serbia would allow this. Serbia has not changed its way since the rise of Serbian General Milan Nedic. The right wing mafia in Serbia continues to flourish. This is why Serbia currently is the poorest in the region. 350 euro a month, I spend that in one night out on the town !
    (Bam Bam, 5 December 2014 00:56)

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  36. In WWI under general Mihajlovic they fought successfuly the SS divisions in Serbia, not in Croatia or any other place (that's the other reason Germany distaste Serbia).
    If there were not for communist lies...but the past is always revised by the Western power cronies.
    (sarah, 4 December 2014 20:14)

    Sarah,
    Your understanding of World War I history is stunning. I find it difficult to decide who is more intelligent, you or Elena.
    (The Count of Kosova, 5 December 2014 00:13)

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  37. You are new to the International Law, dear Croat. Educate yourself. "Veto" cannot just be used simply because you say so. If you do that, it is the Serbs who will make you crawl to the International Court in the Hague for violation of the veto use. I don't know how old you are, probably young. But you must understand what veto means and how it is used. If the ICH says that a Serb is not found guilty or that he can return to Serbia due to health issues, you cannot veto. And have in mind, that 5 EU countries support Serbia. And if you veto Serbia, we will start blocking you. And believe me, we will take more with our side. Educate yourself about the sub-coalitions within the EU, like the one between the UK and the South and how they "play" together. Germany cannot support you in everything. Germany is just one country, one vote. You veto Serbs, we block your way.
    (elena, 4 December 2014 14:46)

    Elena,
    I hope all Greeks and Serbs are as intelligent and knowledgable as you.
    (The Count of Kosova, 5 December 2014 00:00)

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  38. Stop using the word "chetniks" the way you people use it. The way you use it is theql communism period slurre. Tito revised history. During WWI those were the elite Royal Army troups, fighthing the AustroHungerians and the Germans in Serbia (and beating them and that' s one of the reasons the migthy Germany hates little Serbia).In WWI under general Mihajlovic they fought successfuly the SS divisions in Serbia, not in Croatia or any other place (that's the other reason Germany distaste Serbia). Germany says that they are done with their shameful past but I wouldn' t be sure of that.
    If there were not for communist lies...but the past is always revised by the Western power cronies.
    (sarah, 4 December 2014 20:14)

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  39. @ lum

    Ohh noooo lum we are starving please help us!! Please give us some advise, what should we do?

    Last I heard lots of young albanians leaving kosmet because no future there. And here I thought nato was gonna shower you with dollars for free because they love you so much. Oh lum good thing you brought up rambo and russian peacekeepers. I agree with you they left early but I'm glad they took care of rambo before they left.

    [link]/
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  40. orgot to mention, our friend, Wesley Clark. These 4 character word, NATO,

    Of cours you mntion your masters NATO to whom you and your brave terrorists ran like dogs.
    (Daniel, 4 December 2014 18:59)

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  41. Daniel,


    You have killed all the hopes of Albanians. You have showed our nightmares and others. Thats ok. But I dont know if you sleep well, when you hear that, Ante Gotovina, Ramush Haradinaj, Fatmir Limaj, Agim Ceku, Rahim Ademi, Isak Musliu, Naser Oric, huged Serbians while they left Kosova, Bosnia and Croatia, which makes me happy for my friends, Bosniaks and Croats. Liberation from Unprecedent War Criminal and Genocides has been successful. Ohh, I forgot to mention, our friend, Wesley Clark. These 4 character word, NATO, actually destabilizes your brains. Do you know the feeling of having an ally?? Please don't refer to me Russia, because they are leaving you to starve. as they did when they left Kosovo with their "peacekeeping" forces. Do not also mention Greece because they are not capable of thinking for their selves? Who is your ally?

    Thats what I am talking about ladies and gentleman, my brothers and sisters from Serbia. I don't hate you as you do to us. But, reality is reality.
    (Lum, 4 December 2014 18:04)

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  42. Only for albanians...you still tremble of fear when you hear his name.
    [link]
    (Daniel, 4 December 2014 17:19)

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  43. @d

    Djindjic spoke freely in what you call a civilised Serbia......and guess what, he was shot in the head !
    (Bam Bam, 4 December 2014 13:22)

    Djindjic wasnt killed for what he said but for what he did.
    (Daniel, 4 December 2014 17:09)

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  44. Djindjic spoke freely in what you call a civilised Serbia......and guess what, he was shot in the head !
    (Bam Bam, 4 December 2014 13:22)

    So tell me, why do you visit our sites? Dont you have your own?
    (Daniel, 4 December 2014 17:00)

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  45. GREEETINGS TO MY DEAR FRIENDS FROM CROATIA. LOVE LOVE LOVE EVERYWHERE. PEACE BE UPON US ALL.BRAVO! (Lum, 4 December 2014 15:09)

    Allen Dales said it shorter : “ Our enemy’s enemy is a friend of ours with no questions asked!” But please don’t forget that those are Serbs to decide if the Croats and Albanians will live in peace or not. To say nothing that the snob Croats are not so happy that for the time being they have to make friends with not only Bosniaks but the Albanians as well. They also know that their Axis friends won’t help them if a couple of boys from Srbska Krajina make up their minds to spoil a touristic season in the Adriatic … So don’t expose your LGBT feelings that open.
    (rote, 4 December 2014 16:15)

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  46. BTW Elena :P should I speak loudly the word, TURKEY, because actually when you hear this word, your foot comes to your mouth.

    Ha? Should I?

    Thank you than! If you need from me to send you money, I can send you if you are actually starving from the national debt.
    (Lum, 4 December 2014 15:15)

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  47. Greetings to Croatia from Kosovo.


    Elena, your comment was the funniest comment that I have ever heard of anyone in the world. To say something like that for a EU country, you must be SOOOOO powerful, which unfortunately, you are not. To block Croatia.........Anyway, it is simply impossible. Don't want to waste my time telling you things that you don't want to hear.

    GREEETINGS TO MY DEAR FRIENDS FROM CROATIA. LOVE LOVE LOVE EVERYWHERE. PEACE BE UPON US ALL.BRAVO!
    (Lum, 4 December 2014 15:09)

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  48. If Nikolic believes that the price to pay for EU membership is recognition of Kosovo and joining in with sanctions against Russia, neither of which he is prepared to countenance, then it surely follows that the country must withdraw its application for such membership. As it happens, the EU as a block has not said that recognition of Kosovo is a condition but each member has a veto and could threaten to use it unilaterally if Serbia does not comply with its wishes. Frankly, a sorry situation all round. If I were a Serb I would want my leader(s)to have a long hard think about continuing along the path to the EU.
    (ned taylor, 4 December 2014 14:57)

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  49. "Stick to the topic, which is about Seselj. ... We will never allow you Chetniks an easy ride into the E.U. The word 'VETO' will be the new Serbia. "
    (Bam Bam, 4 December 2014 00:22)

    You are new to the International Law, dear Croat. Educate yourself. "Veto" cannot just be used simply because you say so. If you do that, it is the Serbs who will make you crawl to the International Court in the Hague for violation of the veto use. I don't know how old you are, probably young. But you must understand what veto means and how it is used. If the ICH says that a Serb is not found guilty or that he can return to Serbia due to health issues, you cannot veto. And have in mind, that 5 EU countries support Serbia. And if you veto Serbia, we will start blocking you. And believe me, we will take more with our side. Educate yourself about the sub-coalitions within the EU, like the one between the UK and the South and how they "play" together. Germany cannot support you in everything. Germany is just one country, one vote. You veto Serbs, we block your way.
    (elena, 4 December 2014 14:46)

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  50. Serbia, as an Orthodox country, needs to forget the Godless EU. Within a brief space of half a decade, the national identity would be gone, half our churches would have been converted 'in the interests of equality' into mosques, and we'd have no control over our own nation at all. Look east, and re-build Byzantium, from the black mountains to the easternmost steppe! Make Serbia the Orthodox Switzerland, remaining neutral while protecting us all from the encroaching evil of islamic extremists. Become a tax haven, and the national coffers would be overflowing, and we could turn our backs on the EU and their Cro-nazi disciples, and end this nonsense over Kosovo while we were at it.
    (Lazar, 4 December 2014 14:36)

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  51. Not that it came as a surprise for me. One of the very many reasons the EU wants Serbia to join the Union is because Serbia can be the stepping stone in Kosovo and Metohija's independence. The Serbian nation should never ever give up on their land, their history and their pride. Look at Cyprus. In 1974 Turkish invaded and got northern Cyprus. 40 years later? The Turkish in northern Cyprus say how much they hate Turkey and beg the Greek Cypriots to become one state and forget the past. Greece isolated Northern Cyprus from everywhere, though the US had different plans. The more Serbia refuses to recognize Kosovo the more half of the planet will keep refusing to recognize Kosovo and the more the Albs in Kosovo will be helpless. You can't even build an airport and have international flights unless everyone recognizes independence. You can't have your own currency unless everyone recognizes independence. About joining the EU, look at Croatia: their debt last summer was less than 60% and 6 months later it jumped to 67% THOUGH they took a load of money as subsidies from the EU. Greece has been the top investor in Albania, after Serbia's request in 2000. You are not alone. Putin increases its investments in Serbia, it was announced a few weeks ago. Greece is the 3rd biggest investor there, too. Spain, Slovakia, Cyprus and Romania support you. Don't give up. You are the bravest nation in Europe. And you will always be our eternally beloved brothers. Huge love from Greece.
    (Elena, 4 December 2014 14:31)

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  52. @ Ian UK

    Please reveal, if you can, your source when you say Seselj recently had surgery.

    The man had surgery in 2013 for a cancerous tumor with resulting colon resection. They were aware, at that time, that he had lymph node involvement or metastasis. I know of no recent surgery.
    (Dr. Sigmund, 4 December 2014 14:13)

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  53. @d

    Djindjic spoke freely in what you call a civilised Serbia......and guess what, he was shot in the head !
    (Bam Bam, 4 December 2014 13:22)

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  54. We will never allow you Chetniks an easy ride into the E.U. The word 'VETO' will be the new Serbia.
    (Bam Bam, 4 December 2014 00:22)
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    Please go ahead, the more we distance ourselves from fasists and nazis the better.
    (Daniel, 4 December 2014 12:44)

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  55. "f Nikolic had any decency a Serbian arrest warrant would be issued for Seselj. Serbia needs to show the world that it's tough on war criminals and S.R.P fascists."

    Serbia has showed more than enough by extraditing Mladic and Karadzic while you albanians and croats have showed that you celebrate your war heroes and make them presidents and prime ministers. By the way Seselj is not a war criminal and there is nothing to arrest him for. In Serbia we have freedom of speech.
    (d, 4 December 2014 12:41)

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  56. Stick to the topic, which is about Seselj. ... We will never allow you Chetniks an easy ride into the E.U. The word 'VETO' will be the new Serbia.
    (Bam Bam, 4 December 2014 00:22)

    Well that is the problem. The topic is a sick old dying man who proved his innocence in a highly anti-Serbian court for over 11 years. I don't think he can progress Serbia forward, but the Hague had over a decade to convict him of something and could not.

    And meanwhile neo-ustashaism is at a fever pitch today in Croatia. The Ustashe committed what could only be described as a terrorist attack in Italy just less than a month ago. They threw flame throwers directly at Italian players, clashed with Italian police and ripped apart seats and threw them at the opposing fans. This was all done in a very planned and organized fashion.

    In Croatia today, Nazism is a part of the mainstream. Josipovic and the elite are trying to outdo themselves with who can sound the most fascist and anti-Serbian in the run up to the election.

    I hope you're right about one thing though. I hope you use that veto any time Serbia tries to get close to EU membership. Keeping Serbia from transfering its law making abilities over to Brussels is the biggest gift Croatia could ever give.
    (Ari Gold, 4 December 2014 11:01)

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  57. I do not know how it is in your country, but in my country, Spain (a member country of the European Union that meets democratic standards) nobody can be tried twice (or by two different courts) for the same crimes, For example, by the International Court of Justice (The Hague) and by a court in the country of the nationality of the accused.
    (Javier (Madrid, Spain), 3 December 2014 13:26)

    "Tried" is a past tense word, his trial is still ongoing. He has been given temporary leave on medical grounds to seek treatment as he has metastatic cancer and recently had a colon tumour removed.

    No-one is saying that he should be tried twice. If the remainder of his trial is to physically take place in a court located in Serbia whilst he has medical treatment, it will still be classed as the same trial.
    (Ian, UK, 4 December 2014 00:27)

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  58. @Ari Gold:

    Stick to the topic, which is about Seselj. Ari if talking about the Ustase is the best you can come up with, then frankly you have no argument. By the way Ari, as I need to remind you again....the current Croatian government is so far to the left it makes Tito look like a NAZI. Josipovic=communist, MIlanovic=communist, Vucic=radical, Nikolic=radical. We will never allow you Chetniks an easy ride into the E.U. The word 'VETO' will be the new Serbia.
    (Bam Bam, 4 December 2014 00:22)

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  59. Serbian Cival Leaders please stop wasting your precious time and energy trying to deal and wrangle with the EU, Roman Catholic Empire and the Evil West ! Serbia has only one positive direction to go and that is EAST ! Why waste precious time and energy with our evil enemies who for many generations have destroyed our people and culture. There is no reason to look back any more, their should not be any doubt in any Serbian's mind who are our evil enemies and who are our loyal dedicated friends. Now is the time if any in history to look forward and don't look back. Serbia and it's people have a positive place in history, now is the time to become one with our Mother Russia who from the begining of time we also came from. Russia, China and India, the Great Eastern Empire ! For us Eastern Orthodox Slavic people the world begins in the East, we pray facing East, the Sun rises from the East. Serbian cival leaders must ensure that the Serbian race be protected from the evil hatred comming from the West. Our Serbian children never again to experiance the death and destruction what their fathers experianced for generations and ages. Nothing good will become of the EU for Eastern Orthodox Slavic people, that is the reality and truth ! For Serbia only LIBERTY and PEACE that is all we want. God Bless Russia and Czar Vlade, God Bless Serbia and all Eastern Orthodox Christian people in the World. Nova Doba, Novu Srecu Boze Nas Mili Daj !!!
    (Dragoljub Djurkovic, 3 December 2014 19:25)

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  60. What a genius..
    (Commentator, 3 December 2014 19:20)

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  61. @ Pete - Don't be biased and uneducated. The WWII ''Serbian'' fascists' ranks were staffed by 80% German soldiers and 100% German officers and if there wasn't those Serbs to play the role of quislings, Croatia and Bulgaria were supposed to divide up Serbia and Serbians would have been subjected to Ustasa-style massacres the other half were to have been assimilated into Bulgarians. 90% of Serbians were either pro-Western Chetniks (until the West betrayed Draza) or pro-Moscow Partizans.
    (hoodboy, 3 December 2014 18:42)

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  62. Serbia needs to stop spitting in face of the justice system and start respecting the rule of law.
    (Bam Bam, 3 December 2014 12:42)

    Says the inbred hillbilly racist from America who jerks off to Ustasha propaganda.
    (Sieg Fail, 3 December 2014 18:29)

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  63. "But the biggest hypocrisy of all is an Ustasha talking about war crimes.
    (Ari Gold, 3 December 2014 13:18) "

    If the WW2 Serb fascists' shoes fit...
    (Pete, 3 December 2014 17:41)

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  64. Nikolic u fool, you think anyone cares any longer if Serbia will recognize The Republic of Kosova, not one bit! Kosova in a few weeks will have a officially recognized standing army, supported by NATO and the democratic world, and will be in a better position militarily then ever! And After a few years, once NATO realizes that Kosova's military has proven to be a main mechanism for stability in Southern Europe, I am 99.9% sure they will accept The Republic of Kosova as a full fledged member! Ari gold & his likes will soon get thier chance to go up against the people of Kosova, however this time it won't be a match were a well armed Serbian military machin goes against a mostly unarmed civilian population in Kosova! No Nikolic, the next time your Serbia attempts aggression against the people of Kosova, you will feel the pains of war smack in the middle of Serbia itself! However, I really feel that Serbia will not take this step, as she knows very well that Kosova's 1.8 million inhabitants are very devoted to their cause & freedom!!!
    VELIKA ALBANIA!
    (Rocky, 3 December 2014 17:00)

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  65. Seselj has too much support for him to be shuffled to-and-fro because Vucic has lost much popularity by lowering wages and pensions and it seems like the SNS-SPS are paying lip-service to the EU anyway: military exercises near Croatia with Russia's army? Come on! They are OBVIOUSLY making a shift toward Moscow slowly so as not to incur EU sanctions. This is what happens when Serbia is treated in a condescending manner by Brussels: demanding the country lower wages and pensions to get into the high-wage EU while Russia is by comparison showing respect. You can't abuse and manipulate someone for 15 years and expect them to honor you when they have other options. Even post-Fascist Germany, Italy and Spain who killed millions weren't treated as unfairly as Serbia post-Milosevic.
    (hoodboy, 3 December 2014 16:33)

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  66. The Serbian people need to make a choice, follow the EU path or move closer to Russia. The current situation will not allow both. As for Kosovo, why do you want one of the poorest regions in Europe? The EU itself will come to a crossroads if we in the UK get a vote on staying or leaving the EU.
    (dave b, 3 December 2014 15:57)

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  67. In Europe there are only two subjects of what is called real politics the US and Russia while EU is just a tool in the US hands. Russia is vainfully trying to steal this tool away. But because the chance to succeed is rather small it has to deal with Turkey. The Sultan is not an easy partner but because the war with the US is still aggravating Putin has made his choice. At least the hawk (the English for erdogan) can speak to the EU the language of Victoria Nuland. And it was quite a predictable turn while after the statements the EU has made today any chance for SS to be realized is vanishing very fast … It’s a bad news for Russia too but when in a war mood it means not so much for us. Such is the Russian mentality and I guess Putin will say it in his tomorrow speech.

    Both sides are very stubborn so the stakes on all the multiple fronts ( Ukraine , gas , OPEC , APEC , Iran , Iraq , oil , rouble , agents of influence , sanctions , Syria , arms race , military threats ect.) will be rising. Such are the times so fasten your seatbelts please. If not stopped EU will be disintegrated in the years to come and all the candidates will regret for the years of free sex and the insults they suffer today. By the way Turkey has the same status of SAA and nobody dares to tell them how to live. To say nothing of territorial integrity ! This is why Putin went to Istanbul Bulgarstan (Istanbul) but not to Bulgaria itself. There’s nothing he could talk about to Sofia when Biden is out.
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  68. @Javier.

    Take Milan Martic for example. He has been tried and sentenced by the ICTY. Once he serves his 30 year sentence an arrest warrant will be issued by the Croatian authorities. Martic will not even be able to step off prison grounds as the handcuffs will be waiting. He will be flown to ZG to be tried once again for crimes against humanity. There may well be other warrants from local municipalities / courts that want to place Martic before the courts.......Even though they would look like fools if they did, but Serbia if it wanted to..it could slap an arrest warrant on Gotovina. Javier study law before commenting.
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  69. To Bam Bam:

    I do not know how it is in your country, but in my country, Spain (a member country of the European Union that meets democratic standards) nobody can be tried twice (or by two different courts) for the same crimes, For example, by the International Court of Justice (The Hague) and by a court in the country of the nationality of the accused.
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  70. If Nikolic had any decency a Serbian arrest warrant would be issued for Seselj. Serbia needs to show the world that it's tough on war criminals and S.R.P fascists. Victims still to this day are awaiting justice. Serbia needs to stop spitting in face of the justice system and start respecting the rule of law.
    (Bam Bam, 3 December 2014 12:42)

    Victims? What about the victims of Croatian fascism part deux from the 1990s? Never mind the genocide committed in WWII by the Ustashe of over a million Serbs brutally butchered. [link]

    You Ustasha have no moral right to decide who is a war criminal, or which victims should get closure and which shouldn't. Though the Hague had 11 years to convict Seselj and why didn't they? He wouldn't even be as popular as he is today if he did not rip the Hague a new one on their hypocrisy and bigotry.

    But the biggest hypocrisy of all is an Ustasha talking about war crimes.
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  71. Besides, the EU is the only trading bloc on the planet not economically growing. Serbia needs to stay as far away as possible from the declining EU.
    (Ari Gold, 3 December 2014 12:15)

    How can Serbia do that it needs EU funds and its surrounded by EU, just geography she is not able to say I will go at it alone. Even Swiss have relationship with EU and no one will put Serbia in same footing with Swiss.
    If Serbia was where Ukrain is geography wise than yes. As a result Serbia must play its role just like every other other small country provide cheap work force to North Europeans and high skilled that will leave the country. This is the story Serbia nor Croatia, nor Bulgaria ... have no industry to grow organically no Natural resources to be a large game player.

    Same for Yugoslavia but Tito played East vs West - Serbia wants to emulate but this is not possible any longer.
    (Atila, 3 December 2014 13:08)

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  72. If Nikolic had any decency a Serbian arrest warrant would be issued for Seselj. Serbia needs to show the world that it's tough on war criminals and S.R.P fascists. Victims still to this day are awaiting justice. Serbia needs to stop spitting in face of the justice system and start respecting the rule of law.
    (Bam Bam, 3 December 2014 12:42)

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  73. "In our country, a party cannot exceed the threshold if it hates others. That's how far ahead we are."

    But in your country, Mr. Nicolic, officials from the ruling party (including yourself) obviously have to play the nationalist card on every possible opportunity to stay in power and not to scare away the nationalists and extremists which must be numerous in Serbia.
    (Comm. Parrisson, 3 December 2014 12:16)

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  74. No s#!t, any one could have told you that years ago. Why you are only finding out about it now is news to me. Except one thing, Serbia can wilfully support the amputation of its territory or not, it will never in a million years reach EU membership. That is closed not only for Serbia, but for the rest of the region. Kosovo-Metohija or not, South Stream or not, there is no EU for Serbia.

    Firstly because there is an overwhelming consensus among the unelected central commission in Brussels that the EU is suffering too greatly internally to be able to allow in more members any time soon. This means for at least another decade, you can forget about any new members. Most likely, the UK will leave before anyone else joins. And lastly, as we have seen, there exists massive anti-Serbian within the EUSSR.

    Mind you, among ordinary Western Europeans and Americans, they could really care less about the Balkans all together. Probably 95% of all of them do not have a strong opinion one way or another. There are friends of Serbia within the very few who even care, and there's your share of nut-jobs that actually match their govt's Serbohobia.

    They are so consistent and passionate about their disdain for Serbia that they come on here every day to lie and make racist comments as if it were their job. I take it as a compliment.

    Besides, the EU is the only trading bloc on the planet not economically growing. Serbia needs to stay as far away as possible from the declining EU.
    (Ari Gold, 3 December 2014 12:15)

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