1. hahhaaaaa, first of all Tesla was Croatian and not serb, second, why every time I google Serbia the most frequent suggestion that comes up is war crimes?
    (jinx, 29 November 2014 02:11)

    Tesla was not Croatian. He was simply born in a town that now happens to be in Croatia, and back then was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. He was the son of a Serbian Orthodox Priest. In his lifetime he translated work by Serbian poet Jovan Jovanovic Zmaj into English, and also had requested that "Tamo Daleko" (a Serbian song) be played at his funeral. If he was a Croat, then it appears he was a Serbophile. If you want to claim him as your own, then by your logic all the Serbs in Vukovar (and their smashed up Cyrillic signs) are Croatian. It's gotta be all or nothing buddy.

    Now, aren't there any Croat news sites you could troll?
    (Ned Alphabet, 2 December 2014 04:30)

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  2. Rory- yes there are always two sides to a dispute but my point is that this site is full of such stories and yet almost never covers positive policy announcements designed to better the daily lives of the citizens. This may well be the fault of B92 in that they prefer to cover the more contentious issues, I really don't know, but I am aware of widespread disaffection within Serbia at the state of the economy and the lack of job prospects. It's amazing how a decent job can concentrate a person's mind on things other than the irritating pronouncements of neighbouring countries. The devil makes work for idle hands (and minds) and so forth....

    As for Mark Thompson, it would be strange for the EP to produce a resolution about a pop singer as opposed to the former leader of a political party. Gotovina has kept a low profile and said almost nothing since his release, let's hope it keeps it that way.
    (ned taylor, 1 December 2014 11:21)

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  3. "Why didn't you pass an EP resolution on the Nazi Šimunić, on Thompson, on Gotovina, who was accused of most serious war crimes," Vučić asked.

    I didn't hear about Gotovina holding public speeches spread on public TV and being a leader of a nationalist party in Croatia. Did I miss something?
    (Questioner, 29 November 2014 16:17)


    Actually, Gotovina did have a small speech when he got back. He said something to the effect of "let the past be the past and let's move forward together". He kind of surprised and pissed off the nationalist crowd.
    (Danilo, 30 November 2014 10:52)

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  4. Sorry, Ned but I don't think you comment is really fair. Yes, clearly Serbia has some way to go in its reform programme and Nikolic and Vucic are certainly not to my taste but, as the recent comments of Josipovic, Milanovic and Ceku demonstrate, it takes two to have an argument and most of the "rants" from the government in Belgrade have been reactive, not proactive. Absolutely, employment and poverty are major problems in Serbia as is corruption and these factors obviously feed support for Seselj (what little there is).

    But the Serbian government would no doubt argued that there needs to be a level playing field. The Serbian government quite rightly cares about the rights of the Serb minority in Croatia and Kosovo: does anyone seriously think those rights are being properly respected when there are still hundreds of thousands of refugees from Croatia who are not able to go home and tens of thousands of Serb and other minority refugees from Kosovo in Serbia (in addition to frequent attacks on those returning), not to mention the hate speech in the media? If the EP had, say, issued resolutions condemning Gotovina's presence at Day of Victory rallies, the concerts of Thompson, Croatian historians attempting to minimise the Holocaust or Kosovo's appalling human rights record in relation to minority populations, then I expect you would find the reaction from Belgrade which is excessive and alarmist would not be happening. But it hasn't so it is.
    (Rory Yeomans, 30 November 2014 10:00)

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  5. "Why didn't you pass an EP resolution on the Nazi Šimunić, on Thompson, on Gotovina, who was accused of most serious war crimes," Vučić asked.

    I didn't hear about Gotovina holding public speeches spread on public TV and being a leader of a nationalist party in Croatia. Did I miss something?
    (Questioner, 29 November 2014 16:17)

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  6. "There's no other possibility. There's nothing in the Serbia of today that could connect our authorities to Vojislav Šešelj - about whom I don't even want to talk."

    Great, Mr. Vucic, you found out about the problem - that you don't wanna talk about him instead of condemning and distancing yourself in the name of the Sebain government from his public outbursts of hate and revanchism. Never heard about the old proverb: 'People who stay silent usually agree'?
    (Comm. Parrisson, 29 November 2014 16:10)

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  7. I really don't understand what's going on. Why is Croatia bothered by Seselj? He is a random man saying random things. He is not a member of government nor does his party have a single seat in parliament. I don't get why the Serbian government is being punished because of his release... They aren't the ones who released him anyway. But I think that Croatia is demanding that Vucic and Nikolic, being formal radicals, to condemn what he says... They don't want to confront their former master but why should they do it? It's obvious that they hold completely different views to him, why should the EU embarrass them?
    (Wallter, 29 November 2014 13:28)

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  8. @Ari
    I didnt know Serbian woman were so hot, your link says that the Serbian Women are the perfect combination of Slavic and Mediterranean genes. I wonder where the mediterranean genes come from? Probably Kosovo albanians had something to do with it...
    (memento_mori, 29 November 2014 05:10)

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  9. And yet you wonder why we hate croats.
    (Daniel, 28 November 2014 13:23)

    Oh, no, nobody wonders why you hate croats... we know you're stuck in the 1940's. Fortunately enough, most of Serbs and rest of the world has moved on and has better things to do or care about than events of 70+ years ago.
    (icj1, 29 November 2014 02:38)

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  10. ...The ones who are more aware in the West, associate Serbia with Novak Djokovic, Nikola Tesla and beautiful Serbian women....

    hahhaaaaa, first of all Tesla was Croatian and not serb, second, why every time I google Serbia the most frequent suggestion that comes up is war crimes?
    (jinx, 29 November 2014 02:11)

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  11. Vucic is pissed off since he and Seselj are made of the very same stuff - what is condemned in seselj applies the same to him and all his core colleagues and followers in Serbia.

    Whenever anyone accuses the chetnik crowd of being fascist (which they are), they immediately scream: "Look at Croatia!! Remember the Ustashe!" That means that they follow the exact same rhetoric as Milosevic and his all too willing executioners.

    No denazification for Serbia - and this is the result.
    (roberto, 29 November 2014 00:32)

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  12. Mr Vucic is sending some very mixed messages. He says, rightly, that the resolution is not binding and "doesn't represent anything" and then rants about it for several minutes. If he has such disregard for this resolution then ignore it and get on with the task of improving the daily lives of Serbian citizens instead. I read endless stories on this site about senior government officials becoming embroiled in slanging matches with counterparts in Kosovo, Croatia, Brussels and elsewhere and very little about practical policies to stamp out corruption and nepotism and to boost the economy and thus the job prospects of the millions of unemployed. It's easy to be against something Mr Vucic but what are you FOR? What POSITIVE steps do you intend to take to help your country folk to free themselves from poverty? Seselj is part of history now along with Milosevic and Mladic and does not represent the views of the majority of Serbs especially the young who want to become an integral part of Europe, if not of the EU itself.
    (Ned taylor, 28 November 2014 23:36)

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  13. In the town of Sisak, situated near the town of Jasenovac, Ustaše presence was vigilant. Early in 1942, The local synagogue was robbed utterly, and the building later housed a worker's hall.[1] The settlers of Sisak were quickly brought to Ustaše attention, and those of them that were of Serbian or Jewish kinship were tormented. One example is Miloš Teslić, a Serbian philanthropist, who was tortured gravely: his eyes were cut out, his arms were sawn off, all while his chest was being burned with a hot iron and his heart cut out.[2]

    And yet you wonder why we hate croats.
    (Daniel, 28 November 2014 13:23)

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  14. Willi I am sure that the following citate is something that you would be really proud of as an old nazi.
    The camp held more than 6600 Serbian, Jewish and Roma children throughout World War II. The children, aged between 3 and 16, were housed in abandoned stables, ridden with filth and pests. Malnutrition and dysentery seriously impaired the children's health. They were fed daily with a portion of thin gruel and treated horribly by the Ustaše guards. "Witnesses recount seeing an Ustasha soldier pick up a child by the legs and smash its head against a wall until it was dead,
    (Daniel, 28 November 2014 13:22)

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  15. Vulvic's ridicules reactions just show that Serbia simply isn't ready for EU membership. A country and a society build on denial of the dark sides of its own history can't become a member of the EU,

    Wow Willi, and yet I have not Heard you condemn Croatia where they smash bilingual signs and celebrate nazis at Cavoglave every year where 100 000 ustasa nazis gather to sing nazi songs. But of course the same rules do not apply for your nazi brethren right? Talking about dark history, have you ever Heard any single croat condemn Jasenovac or Jastrebarsko, the only concentration camp for CHILDREN. Filthy bastard.
    (Daniel, 28 November 2014 13:21)

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  16. The ones who are more aware in the West, associate Serbia with Novak Djokovic, Nikola Tesla and beautiful Serbian women. [link]/ #6 on this list
    Ari Gold

    Blind and wrong as usual. One of the first associations people in the West have when they hear Serbia is the Balkan wars of the 90's and the role Serbia played in it. This resolution of the EU parliament reflects that as well. This is not by far forgotten as serb nationalist / fascist try to make people believe here. As a matter of fact it will play a big role in the forthcoming discussions with the EU concerning the serb EU membership start.
    Vulvic's ridicules reactions just show that Serbia simply isn't ready for EU membership. A country and a society build on denial of the dark sides of its own history can't become a member of the EU, and if there aren't any signs that there is a willingness to finally face that past, than all negotiations should be stopped and Serbia will eventually be isolated, surrounded by EU countries. It can not be a Switzerland, the economic reality simply doesn't exist, and the 'heavenly' ties with Russia won't help either. Up to Serbia to finally decide where it wants to belong to.
    (willi Pfaff, 28 November 2014 12:34)

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  17. I am no fan of Dr. Seselj or his political ideology but if the EU parliament is going to condemn hate speech, it has got to be unequivocal and across the board, not selective. I see no such condemnations for fascists in Croatia or Ukraine. I guess there is 'good' fascists and 'bad' fascists.
    (Bekim_Novi Sad, 28 November 2014 11:43)

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  18. this is our problem, we refuse to talk about things, keep living in denial about our recent past. I am sure everyone hates us because we are the chosen heavenly people. Pathetic!
    (boom, 27 November 2014 18:18)

    You ought to get out more. Most normal people in the West do not have a very strong opinion one way or the other regarding the Balkans. The ones that do, the majority do not subscribe to your sick attempt to revise history. thinking you receive some kind of validation by portraying yourself as a Serb just by throwing in "we" and "us" in your hateful tirades.

    The ones who are more aware in the West, associate Serbia with Novak Djokovic, Nikola Tesla and beautiful Serbian women. [link]/ #6 on this list

    Nice try, we know many Albanian nationalists have an unhealthy obsession with Serbia. And it's evident by how many religiously come on to B92 to vent their sickness
    (Ari Gold, 28 November 2014 09:51)

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  19. "Why didn't you pass an EP resolution on the Nazi Šimunić, on Thompson, on Gotovina, who was accused of most serious war crimes," Vučić asked.

    Woah, is Vucic starting to show some teeth?
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  20. The EP resolution passed on Thursday is "offensive and disturbing, motivated by either hypocrisy or a desire to harm Serbia. Is the Serbian fantasy delusional world collapsing around it. Is its ever new and fresh BS they put out every day. Starting to register to the Serbs their BS it smell to high heavens as the fresh cold winds of reality blow. They are still having a hard time to admit their many self horrendus inspired crimes or deal with them in any lasting way. Are always looking some one else to blame for their criminal ways. Just keep uniting around your BS CCCC the ever inocente Serbs. As the world passes you and dose not want nothing to do with or your perpetual smell. As the Orthodox greater Serbia garb consuls the Serbs. With the make believe delusional fantasys you are a heavenly people but so earthly no good. "There's no other possibility. There's nothing in the Serbia of today that could connect our authorities to Vojislav Šešelj - about whom I don't even want to talk." The profeser is sad his best pupils Tomislav Nikolić, Aleksandar Vučić, are now in charge of Serbia. That Šešelj propeled them to greater heavenly hights of Greater Sebia are so ungrateful to their mentor never even mind Ivica Dačić Slobos proganda minister past.

    "Those who submitted the motion wanted to demean Serbia's reputation, because it is no longer small and irrelevant as it was, because it is no longer a punching bag.
    (Lenard, 27 November 2014 21:11)

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  21. And we're still working towards joining this club?
    (Peggy, 27 November 2014 20:50)

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  22. The European Union is nothing more than a neoliberal scheme intent on thwarting the working class. But if Serbia's leadership is determined to join, then Serbia cannot have it both ways, say on the one hand nothing is more important than joining the EU, but on the other it will only join under its own terms. The Seselj resolution may be completely wrong, but Serbia must either commit to joining the EU 100% or follow a course outside of it.
    (Vgphxaz, 27 November 2014 19:41)

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  23. What a ridiculous man Vucic is. The master demagogue, that always says what people want to hear, not the truth. If any nation is xenophobic, it is Serbia. Their mistrust of the West goes beyond reason. If they feel that Russia is their true friend, by all means, embrace them. Serbia will not be missed in the EU.
    (Winston, 27 November 2014 19:09)

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  24. In other news, the EP voted today against a resolution to fire tax dodger in chief, current European Commission President and former Luxembourgish Prime Ministe, Jean-Claude Juncker!

    Oh, and they also voted to break up Google (which I don't have a problem with).

    What I do have a problem with is that the EP seems to be more interested in taking symbollic votes (coz you need to team up with either the Council of Ministers or the Commssion to make a vote binding) rather than doing something useful to improve their own transparency and save the EU from crippling austerity. They are behaving like veneer on wooden furniture. What a waste.
    (EU Dude, 27 November 2014 18:49)

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  25. Provokacija.
    (Mark, 27 November 2014 18:24)

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  26. ...."There's no other possibility. There's nothing in the Serbia of today that could connect our authorities to Vojislav Šešelj - about whom I don't even want to talk."...

    this is our problem, we refuse to talk about things, keep living in denial about our recent past. I am sure everyone hates us because we are the chosen heavenly people. Pathetic!
    (boom, 27 November 2014 18:18)

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