1. Dear Kent Price. You got nothing. What happens in Kosova is the history of humanity. Borders change, populations move in and out, maps change, those who govern a certain area change. Rinse, repeat. This has always been the case.There is nothing special to it. There is nothing special especially because Serbs and Albanians are involved. We are not the center of the world and we are no different from other areas of the world. So no matter the artificial paradigm you're trying to squeeze by here, it simply doesn't apply. The very fact that there have been so many different people's governing this corner of the world is a testimony to that. No matter what arbitrary invented "principle" you do your best to apply, it doesn't hold any water. You can't freeze time and you can freeze history. That means you can't stop the fluidity of political powers and their shift through time because you pulled some "principle" from your behind and decided to call that "justice". That is not how history and humanity works. They don't care about nuisances such as "justice", or DNA, or who was first and who came last, who built a church or who built a highway. The only thing that remains constant through all of this, is that powers shifts and so do those who administer an area. Yesterday it was the Serbs, last week the Ottomans, two weeks ago the Romans, today the Albanians. Who knows about tomorrow. The important thing is to figure out how to stop killing each other when tomorrow happens?
    (j, 4 November 2015 02:22)

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  2. (Haitian, 3 November 2015 11:46)

    No, what you were trying to say is that Serbs moved to the Balkans in the 5th century and replaced the local population.

    Serbs, by name, did not even call themselves Serbs then.

    In truth it were just a bunch of Slavic speaking tribes who migrated to the Balkans over the centuries and co-existed with the local population, not breeding them out.

    The locals (Thraci, Dardani, Illiry, whatever tribe living there) assimilated to the Slavic language and culture and start calling themselves Slavs.

    That's why modern Serbs overwhelmingly contain I2a1b1 instead of R1a, meaning their ancestors where living in the Balkans for millennia instead only for the last couple 100s of years.
    (Milos Obilic, 3 November 2015 14:48)

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  3. (Milos Obilic, 2 November 2015 14:42)

    I know that there was several Slavic migrations and not one. I was referring to the largest of the Slavic migrations where Slavs first moved to the Balkans. Prior to the Great Slavic migrations, there were no Slavs in the Balkans. This is why the Ancient Greeks, Romans or Byzantium make no mention of them in their literature, history or documentation.

    I don't dispute that south Slavic DNA countains I2a1b, this is because it spread to Europe when you said it did, this includes what is present day Ukraine and Russia. Then the southern Slavs also mixed with the locals in the Balkans at the time.

    No historian in the world claims that South Slavs were in the Balkans prior to the 5th century.
    (Haitian, 3 November 2015 11:46)

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  4. @ Dear Mr. Haitian village idi*t

    Obviously you will need to do some more research before spitting this kind of nonsense and looking like a fool yourself.

    There was not only one Slavic migration, but several.

    DNA research shows the south Slavs (Slovenes, Croats, Bosniaks, Serbs, Montenegrins and Macedonians) overwhelmingly contain I2a1b and to a lesser degree E1b1b and R1a, where I2a1b was spread in Europe around 4800-1500 BCE, and the latter 2 during the late Late Antiquity and Early Middle Ages.
    The Northern Slavs (Russians, Polaks, Slovaks, Baltics, etc) contain mostly R1a, so if the Serbs migrated to the Balkans only around the 5th century they would mostly only contain R1a too right?

    Right.
    (Milos Obilic, 2 November 2015 14:42)

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  5. @ kent prince

    You will do better if you go to school and learn something about Balkan history!
    (Joni, 2 November 2015 09:41)

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  6. Dear J.

    The Serbs predate the Romans and the Turks, meaning the Serbs were there before the Romans and the Turks.
    The Romans and The turks were an occupying force they were not from that area of kosovo to begin with.
    (kent prince, 1 November 2015 10:30)

    Dear kent prince.

    The Romans first appeared in the Balkans in the 2nd Century BC and had fully annexed it to the Roman Republic by the 1st Century BC. The Great Slavic migration to the Balkans occurred in the 5th Century AD which is 500 years after the Romans were first in the Balkans. You are most wrong to claim that "Serbs were there before the Romans". No historian in the world would dispute this. When Romans were first in the Balkans, Serbs (and other Southern Slavs) were still Slavic tribes living in what is present day Ukraine and Russia. Serbs "were not from that area of kosovo to begin with" either.
    (Haitian, 2 November 2015 01:38)

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  7. Whats left of Ukraine after the US Fascist coup isn't a Country its a criminal enterprise.
    (Cromwell, 1 November 2015 22:52)

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  8. So if colonization is OK for you, then it doesn't matter who colonizes what. 

    Also the Romans were in Kosova for 2 thousand years. The Turks for 500 years. If Serbs took it from these more advanced civilizations and "developed" it, then others can take it from Serbia and develop it. So what's your problem?
    (j, 31 October 2015 16:55) 

    Dear J.

    The Serbs predate the Romans and the Turks, meaning the Serbs were there before the Romans and the Turks.
    The Romans and The turks were an occupying force they were not from that area of kosovo to begin with.
    (kent prince, 1 November 2015 10:30)

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  9. Потрошенко (from the word "потрошить", like "Jack, the ripper") was never a criminal.
    He is just part of (anti-Russian) UA-oligarh mob. Wait... I have the impression that Ukrainian (and Serbian and Bulgarian and Russian ) oligarhs are criminals and there is not enough rope in these countries to hang them.

    Ah, yes, Hungary is not much different... but all of them are nothing compared with American economic criminals.

    Help me if I am wrong.
    (Ataman, 1 November 2015 03:24)

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  10. "j" It's back to school for you, more history lessons are required and write two thousand lines of "sorry everyone for revising history and being an agent-provocateur".
    (Teacher, 31 October 2015 23:12)

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  11. In the case of Crimea. Crimea was "given illegally" to the Ukraines not colonized by the Ukraines.

    (kent prince, 31 October 2015 00:00)
    If you believe Russia is the rightful owner of Crimea, and it was the Russian (or USSR) government that gave Crimea to Ukraine, how do you justify the term "illegally"? Was their restrictions on the gift, was the government at the time not the law of the land?
    (just wondering, 31 October 2015 22:22)

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  12. No one gave Serbians Kosovo. The Serbs developed kosovo and colonized it just as did the pilgrims colonized the whole of North America, just as the Spanish colonized South America just as the British colonized the Falkland Island.

    With Kosovo,albanians came in droves after it was colonized and developed by Serbian people.
    (kent prince, 31 October 2015 00:00)

    So if colonization is OK for you, then it doesn't matter who colonizes what.

    Also the Romans were in Kosova for 2 thousand years. The Turks for 500 years. If Serbs took it from these more advanced civilizations and "developed" it, then others can take it from Serbia and develop it. So what's your problem?
    (j, 31 October 2015 16:55)

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  13. What a joke of a country Ukraine is.
    (factman, 31 October 2015 06:54)

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  14. Crimea was never stolen from ukraine! Crimea was always Russian and so are Ukrainians! only Slavs know what Ukraine means, it has really NO ethnicity meaning.
    (hello?, 31 October 2015 05:35)

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  15. Crimea has never been a long term part of ucraine , as it has been to the Russian nation, when Tsarina Catherine the Great took it from the Turks a few hundred years ago( and at same time put an end to the slave trade by Crimean Tartars)(not blaming people but only Sin) . Crimea was always a part of the Russian nation since it was taken from the Ottomans. The Ucrainian leader at the time of the break-up of the soviet union, apparently offered it back to Mr Yeltsin three times, but he wasn't concerned .So even the Ucrainians appreciated that Crimea was not really ucrainian.
    (joseph, 31 October 2015 04:12)

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  16. No one gave Serbians Kosovo. The Serbs developed kosovo and colonized it just as did the pilgrims colonized the whole of North America, just as the Spanish colonized South America just as the British colonized the Falkland Island.

    If the US is so honorable and ethically pure then give Texas, California, New Mexico back to the mexicans.

    In the case of Crimea. Crimea was "given illegally" to the Ukraines not colonized by the Ukraines.

    With Kosovo,albanians came in droves after it was colonized and developed by Serbian people.
    (kent prince, 31 October 2015 00:00)

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  17. And why didnt Ukraine put the French politicians who visited Crimes on the list of criminals? ??
    (kent prince, 30 October 2015 23:42)

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  18. Very soon Ukraine is going to recognize Kosovo just to teach Serbs a lesson.
    (Avni, 30 October 2015 22:34)

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  19. The Russian Federation's claims to Crimea are of exactly the same fabric as Serbia's claim to Kosovo: History. Crimea was gifted to the Soviet Ukraine with the same flippancy as was the Socialist Autonomous Province of Kosovo handed over to the Albanians in the SFRY.

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    The junta in Kiev is slowly losing its mind.
    (Paul, 30 October 2015 21:22)

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  20. Serbs have always be terrorists, criminals land thieves, killers....just look at their past history nothing good, just creating war and killing people.

    Thank you Ukraine
    (eric, 30 October 2015 19:51)

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  21. "I once had some sympathy for this nation but now I believe the majority of Serbs suffers from a dangerous and severe mental illness. I think they are absolutely nuts. I mean how in the world can you constantly whine about how Kosovo was stolen from you and when Russia does the exact same thing to Ukraine you endorse it and you are perfectly alright with that? "
    (svabo, 30 October 2015 12:18)

    Good question, it can only answered by the old proverb: 'If two people do the same, it's still not the same'. Though, it's not exactly the same thing: The same would have been when Albania would have taken away Kosovo and declared it a part of Albania instead of an UN protectorate self-proclaimed it's independence.
    (Questioner, 30 October 2015 17:56)

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  22. How many seats in government do they have? 0

    A bunch of losers who couldn't even break 5% of the vote in 2014.
    (LK, 30 October 2015 17:30)

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  23. Sputnik noted in its report that the people of Crimea in March 2014 decided to right a historical mistake, dating back to the USSR era, by voting overwhelmingly (95 percent) in favor of "bringing the peninsula back home." Thus the same month, Crimea officially became a part of the Russian Federation.

    Radio Pristina reported the "Kosovo Albanians decided to correct the historical mistake dated back a century and officially became an independent state".
    (J.Oker, 30 October 2015 14:03)

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  24. Dveri and DSS are indeed criminals and right wing maniacs
    (Adam, 30 October 2015 14:02)

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  25. "Perhaps today many people fear sanctions if they went to Crimea, but soon going to Crimea will be a matter of prestige, and a reflection of the freedom-loving spirit of Europe and the world," stated Obradovic.

    It's clear that for right-wing extremists it's a matter of prestige.

    And why shouldn't people that enter another country illegally shouldn't be put on a list of criminals? I think it's like that in most countries. Serbian politicians should know it, I think some of them got arrested when they illegally entered to Kosovo instead of using the regular crossings.
    (Comm. Parrisson, 30 October 2015 13:59)

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  26. What ever happened to Slavic Brotherhood and Unity? ha ha.....

    Hypocrite Serbia crys over the loss of Kosova but see no problem with recognizing Crimea stolen from Ukraine.

    Ukraine must arrest any Serb trespassing on Ukrainian soil which includes occupied Crimea.

    And here I thought Slav serb originated from Ukraine but instead serb kiss Russian a$$.....
    (Azir, 30 October 2015 13:11)

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  27. "Perhaps today many people fear sanctions if they went to Crimea, but soon going to Crimea will be a matter of prestige, and a reflection of the freedom-loving spirit of Europe and the world," stated Obradovic.

    I once had some sympathy for this nation but now I believe the majority of Serbs suffers from a dangerous and severe mental illness. I think they are absolutely nuts. I mean how in the world can you constantly whine about how Kosovo was stolen from you and when Russia does the exact same thing to Ukraine you endorse it and you are perfectly alright with that? Does anyone in this weird country expect that any other nation takes them serious anymore? Now they will bring in the Russians into central europe with an open door and by kissing their hands. Because all the west is evil and they are the "good guys". Riiiight. We are just heading for another North Korea right in the middle of Europe now I hope anyone realizes that. Serbia is about to become a real rogue state nothing against what it was in the 90s. Can't wait when the EU falls apart and Russia sets up their bases in Serbia and turns Montenegro into another Donbass. That'll be a whole lot of fun. Enjoy this world and Balkans as long as you still can.
    (svabo, 30 October 2015 12:18)

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