1. I'm a serb with a PhD. I never loose an argument.
    MikeC
    I heard that just a very few years ago anyone with a couple of thousand euros could buy one in Serbia, the same goes for a medical degree.
    (too funny, 3 July 2015 01:13)

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  2. @ rrote , Most likely Albanians were some of the Slav tribes

    [link]
    (Joni, 2 July 2015 15:54)

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  3. Where did you learn english? At 7-Eleven? Judging by your comment you probably took your historylessons there as well.
    (MikeC, 1 July 2015 16:57)

    Uuuuuu... You hurt my feelings!
    Be sure that i will never write anymore here, my reputation have been damaged....

    I will be always the worst student in history as much as you don’t like the facts and the truth.
    And I haven't done any single day English at school, I have choose to learn other languages at school.
    (Joni, 2 July 2015 14:58)

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  4. (RighteousBilly, 1 July 2015 14:41)

    Happen too often to you to talk - wandering ?
    (Joni, 2 July 2015 14:51)

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  5. “Scutari was the center of the Catholicism in Albania and the last city who fall under Ottomans.”

    Europe was twice colonized by the Great Horde. First in 1318-1329 and until 1584 the continent remained a colony. But about 1486 because of the Black Death epidemics another expedition was arranged. This time targets were all who caught the disease including Horde people who ruled the continent. South and west of Europe suffered most. Especially the west (Spain, France, Britain, Portugal, Belgium, Holland) where almost all were eliminated. This massacre was reflected in the Holy Writ and Apocalypses. Later these lands were occupied by the new Horde people sent there with their families. So most likely all Balkan peoples are children of those newcomers while fairy tales we are told about never existed kingdoms and peoples very often are phantoms. This second invasion was led parallel from Turkey and Russia coz “Ottomans” were an autonomous part of the Horde. Balkans as well as France, Spain and Italy were in the Ottoman’s zone. So they stayed here even after the split inside the Horde in 1584. Most likely Albanians , Serbs and the rest came here as Ottomans. So I doubt stories like Scutari while Catholics gained force only in the fall of the 16 century and they weren't Puritans ...
    (rote, 2 July 2015 13:25)

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  6. Serbs should provide proof that Kosovo och some monastery belonged to them? At the same time we should just take for granted that it belonged to albanians just because you say so? Since 99,9% of the world knows that churches in Kosovo belong to the serbs I think its more appropriate for albanians to prove it isn't so. Don't you think?
    (Tom Tom, 1 July 2015 13:04)

    I'm not telling that this Orthodox Church is Albanian.
    I'm just telling to you that there was a Catholic culture before the Serbs arrival.
    Did something Catholic survived there ??
    The church of Gracanica is rebuild by Serbs in the VII centr. in the ruin of another Catholic Church of the VI centr.
    * Albanians were Catholic believers at time.
    There were built a lot of Catholic Churches and monasteries - according to the Vatican sources.
    Scutari was the center of the Catholicism in Albania and the last city who fall under Ottomans.
    The city of Scutary, Kruja and all the catholic north was totally burned and destroyed from Ottomans.
    The only that survive in Albania are the old Orthodox churches and monasteries. Nothing Catholic.
    I really don't know if in some of our neighbors survive something Catholic before the VII century.
    Just i'm curious..
    (Joni, 2 July 2015 12:01)

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  7. Rote, give it a break. Serbian name was mentioned and known before 17 century. Serbian national church was independent from 13th century. Leave that nonsense. Serbs were suffering so that they can call themselves Serbs. I think same is for Russians
    (RighteousBilly, 2 July 2015 07:02)

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  8. Judging by your English, you must have been taught by someone who works at 7-Eleven. You don't even know the difference between "then" and "than".

    The Count of Kosova

    Out of all my comments that was the only error you could find? I guess I'm better at english than I previously thought. Not bad for a person who's native language Is not english. Don't you think?
    (MikeC, 1 July 2015 23:48)

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  9. Goat herders come on a Serbian website and then question peoples identity and origins, you peasant herders will always just be that.
    (royals, 1 July 2015 02:25)
    uneducated goat herders....
    (Grobar1, 30 June 2015 16:44)
    I would be honored to break bread with any individual who is honestly trying to provide for his family no matter what they may do in life. But I do not think I could keep my food down if I were sitting at the table with someone so consumed by hate that they cannot speak intelligently.
    I have found in life that if someone is content on hurling insults it is only to camouflage inadequacies in their own character.
    Take it for what you may!
    (a New day, 1 July 2015 22:58)

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  10. joni

    Where did you learn english? At 7-Eleven? Judging by your comment you probably took your historylessons there as well.
    (MikeC, 1 July 2015 16:57)

    MikeC,
    Judging by your English, you must have been taught by someone who works at 7-Eleven. You don't even know the difference between "then" and "than".
    (The Count of Kosova, 1 July 2015 22:10)

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  11. I'm a serb with a PhD. I never loose an argument.
    MikeC

    Mikey, if by PhD you mean 'permanent head damage' then I agree. As far as you never loosing an argument then all I have to say to you is ignorance is bliss.

    My Serbian friends, by resorting to name calling all you're doing is making your feelings of inferiority known to all and your position of weakness in these negotiations clear.

    Have some self respect.
    (cry me a river, 1 July 2015 22:08)

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  12. RighteousBilly

    “They also know many other things that ordinary scientists dont know. They know about Albanism and they teach that in school, too. Did you know that, bet you did'nt! albanians are beside Ellyrians also and Thrachians too!”

    Many peoples got their names in 17-18 centuries. I would say most of them including the Russians and the Serbs. To say nothing of the Albanians who are interpreted as the Whites … Most likely Albanians were some of the Slav tribes with R1b happlogroup (sister to R1a) who conquered south and west of Europe during the Great Horde. It’s neither good nor bad for the Shqiptarets. But it’s good reason to investigate the item. At least Britain was conquered by the Albines … But they have R1b happlogroup and thus cannot be Shqiptarets.
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  13. you poor people, serbia will never have power in kosovo, those times are over, get it over your head,,,oh btw to bad Sweden gave you that PHD if you have one hahahah
    (eric, 1 July 2015 19:28)

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  14. Joni

    Where did you learn english? At 7-Eleven? Judging by your comment you probably took your historylessons there as well.
    (MikeC, 1 July 2015 16:57)

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  15. (RighteousBilly, 1 July 2015 14:41)
    Don't know where you live as since you are using the English site, but I hope it is not near me as you are one huge nut case. And if the righteous is in relation to your orthodox affiliation, gives even a worse impression than when drugo drago speaks.
    (nothing personal, 1 July 2015 15:22)

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  16. Joni and Albanian friends:
    Albanians dont know whether that serbian ortodox churches were built by Serbs so they need to destroy them in order to see ruins of some older churches built. They dont know excatly what church is theirs so they need to check each and every, meaning, to burn them. That is how Albanian do their scientific research. That should'nt be strange because they learned it from their leader Enver. Albanians "scientists" also know that they have Alps and that polar bears live in Kosovo. Kosovo minister of tourism and trade knows that and he confirmed discovery of albanian scientists by one personal story that goes something like this:
    When he was a little boy, he remembers that his grandpa told him that he was seeing from time to time polar bears. One must be in shock after hearing what albanian scientists know and others dont and what one albanian grandpa could witness. They also know many other things that ordinary scientists dont know. They know about Albanism and they teach that in school, too. Did you know that, bet you did'nt! albanians are beside Ellyrians also and Thrachians too! Pelasgians. One Albanian knows that native Finland was settled by albanians before Finns came and stole their land. He knows that and claims that. So, why to wonder when they say that churches are albanian.
    (RighteousBilly, 1 July 2015 14:41)

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  17. Joni

    Serbs should provide proof that Kosovo och some monastery belonged to them? At the same time we should just take for granted that it belonged to albanians just because you say so? Since 99,9% of the world knows that churches in Kosovo belong to the serbs I think its more appropriate for albanians to prove it isn't so. Don't you think?
    (Tom Tom, 1 July 2015 13:04)

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  18. Me thinks some people here failed to see the humor in my comment. People! Where is your sense of humour?
    (MikeC, 1 July 2015 11:29)

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  19. Serbs,Macedonians and Greeks are peace loving people unlike Albanian Moooslems that like to burn Churches and Monasteries, not to mention harvest Human organs, only sick Alboonians do that!!
    (vratnica, 30 June 2015 22:29)
    Serbs, Montenegrins and Greeks are guilty in the same crime.
    They make allies against a neighboring country..
    They stole their lands, and killed the inhabitants all this with the support of Russia.
    So my dear: GIVE TO CAESAR WHAT BELONG TO CAESAR - and all will live in peace.
    About the Churches and Monasteries i must show to you shocked video in wich your dear serbian soldiers ( not some ordinary criminals ) destroy with heavy artillery and burn Mosque in Bosnia and in Kosovo.
    Could we call this state terrorism??
    Just one question:
    Having present that you arrived in the VII century and there were built just Christian Churches from Albanians. Do some of this Christian churches escaped without being destroyed?
    Orthodox Churches were build in the ruins of the Albanian Christian Churches of V - VI centr. Ouu look a little there were people in Kosovo BEFORE the VII centr, but them nooo were not Albanian!!! What? They were aliens and disintegrated before srbs arrival.
    [link]
    About the "harvest Human organs"- if you have profs you are free to denounce them in Hague, and we are ready to yield in Serbia justice all the suspects, If there are anyone..
    If not, just the wind will "get away your words"..
    (Joni, 1 July 2015 11:20)

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  20. @mikec....100% Serbian.

    How can you be 100% Serbian when your were born and raised in a country colder than a Meat Freezer. Everytime you step on Serbian soil they see you as a 'Stranac'. That's a fact !
    (Bam Bam, 1 July 2015 09:07)

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  21. MikeC

    There's no such thing as a serb with a PhD :v
    and the way you talk, you look more like you have a veterinary PhD
    (Revolution, 1 July 2015 08:53)

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  22. I'm a serb with a PhD. I never loose an argument.
    (MikeC, 30 June 2015 23:51)

    You've lost it right here dude. No decent human being has the audacity to claim anything as dumb as what you just wrote there. Since you flaunt the PhD as if that's the ultimate indicator of intelligence, imagine for a minute Newton, Einstein,Maxwell, or Bernouli claiming they never loose an argument.Even them would sound like the village idiot. Yet we have a nobody here claiming just that. Any person that has spent enough time in academia and has learned enough from his/her research career and studies has discovered how little we as a species know, and how much we still have yet to learn. This is a humbling experience. The very fact that you have spent so much time getting that PhD and have not been humbled by this experience shows that the degree you hold is not worth the paper its printed on. You have learned nothing of the human experience. I've come across many types like yourself, during my research, where they get those three letters and the turn into a God and suffer from some sort of the "genius" complex. There's nothing special about a PhD dude. Take it from someone who's been there and done that. There's thousands of us. There will be many thousands after us. As your post shows a PhD doesn't make someone a better person or necessarily a more intelligent person either.
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  23. Pack up and get out of Kosovo, Alboonia is waiting for YOU!!!Serbs,Macedonians and Greeks are peace loving people unlike Albanian Moooslems that like to burn Churches and Monasteries, not to mention harvest Human organs, only sick Alboonians do that!!
    (vratnica, 30 June 2015 22:29)

    Sure Arkan was a peace loving person, all this hate you lost the war deal with it you will be a minority in Kosovo for next few generations nothing to do about it no Serbian military is coming.

    People dont you see that life is passing since 2000 No Serbian police or goverment has ruled Kosovo and in Bruseles you are negotiating for terms that those Serbs left will have most controll of their daily life as they can ( i am all for it) but you lost wait your turn till next time. If you win we will have to win under you !!!
    (GJAKU, 1 July 2015 03:16)

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  24. I'm a serb with a PhD. I never loose an argument. I've been gone for a while because I couldn't stand reading garbage from goat herders. However, now I'm back, and this time no more mr nice guy!
    (MikeC, 30 June 2015 23:51)
    Mike welcome back from another Educated Albanian (Engineering Masters and work for fortune 500 in US) First as a PHD i expect not to scoot at the level of people who come here to push hate its not nice to say Albanians are goat herders nothing wrong with goat herding but its insult. Anger got us in this situation believe it or not Serbs and Albanians have more in common than you think my roommate was a Serbian and we were surprised to see how we celebrate and do so many things the same.

    Your wife is from Kosovo thats great I wish her a happy life and she can soon return to visit her country, this land has gone back and forth and for the moment Albanins are rulers give us a chance to grow as a country and its hard for Serbs but for now they will be minority in Kosovo lets see what future brings but we do have to live together.

    I hope the educated Serbs like You and Albanians as my self will find a way in future to teach our children to respect each other and leave hate behind, I will be the first to extend the olive branch in friendship. War in 1998 was hard on my family lost 2 family members ( age 9 and 19) but you Mike had nothing to do with it and i hold nothing against Serbian people.

    Life is too short to hate thy neighboor
    (I think therefore I am!!!, 1 July 2015 03:07)

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  25. Goat herders come on a Serbian website and then question peoples identity and origins, you peasant herders will always just be that.
    (royals, 1 July 2015 02:25)

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  26. Mike C: Slightly puzzled here. You don't want anything to do with Albanians but your leaders were bending over backwards until the declaration of independence to keep Kosovo in the fold. Are you at odds with their views or do you simply want to rid Kosovo of all Albanians and leave it 'pure' with Serbs only?
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  27. "...Why do you continue to comment on things you know nothing about, you are not even a Serb, though you claim your wife is Serbian."
    "...including Serbs, that have actually visited Albania recently."

    The Count of Kosova


    The only serbs that visited Albanian were the ones that got their organs removed. May God have mercy on their souls.

    Not only is my wife a serbian from Kosovo but, surprise surprise, I'm serb too. Born and raised in Sweden but 100% serbian. Having been to Serbia and Bosnia more times then the average albanian has been in and out of prison. I'm your worst nightmare. I'm a serb with a PhD. I never loose an argument. I've been gone for a while because I couldn't stand reading garbage from goat herders. However, now I'm back, and this time no more mr nice guy!
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  28. "Otherwise we see clearly that Serbia is still at war with its neighbors."

    roberto

    Serbia will always be at war with some of its neighbors. Not because Serbia doesn't want peace but because Bosnia, Croatia and Albania wants to continue to humiliate Serbia and the serbian people. You need to bring up the crimes committed by serbs and at the same time justify the crimes you committed against us. The greatest crime, by far, in Balkan history is the mass murder of serbs at the hands of the ustashe regime. Yet nobody is mentioning that. Like it never happened. You are setting up demand for what Serbia needs to do to be accepted by kosovo albs and bosnjaks. You need to look at what is happening to Bosnia. You are not in a position to put up demands. Serbs have what they always wanted in Bosnia. Freedom! And Kosovo is more dependent on Serbia then the other way around. Kosovo cannot sustain on its own. Thats a fact. We se thousands of unhappy albs leaving their paradise creation to escape bloodfueds, narkogangs and ISIL fanatics. You give me one reason to why we need to have anything to do with either bosnjaks and albanians? You fought for freedom but we got it.
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  29. The problem is that we have unequal negotiating positions. Kosovo is not actively seeking EU membership at present but already has what it wants, recognition from the majority of major international actors (sorry Russia and China). Serbia on the other hand is looking to join the EU in the near/medium term and thus needs some sort of positive outcome. Kosovo is under no pressure at all to agree to anything and as such is abusing its position. In addition to this, Albanians in Kosovo believe that now is the time for some sort of 'revenge' where having been a minority in Serbia for so long and, in their eyes, marginalised, they now wish to do the same to Serbs in Northern Kosovo. This all points to continuing stalemate.
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  30. The main problem is that the Belgrade regime is used to dictating the terms (thru multiple genocides, when necessary) and Kosova is NOT ready to agree on anything. Too bad, eh? Specifically we have learned from the Bosnian tragedy, and yr puppet statelet, so called RS, that tries on a daily basis to destroy Bosnia - "we demand a referendum!!" Fascist puppet Do-dik is a very bad advertising for Serbia's negotiations.

    The way forward is to recognize Kosova's sovereignty, grant Kosova full UN membership, and de-fang the Milosevic Dayton constitution. Otherwise we see clearly that Serbia is still at war with its neighbors.
    (roberto, 30 June 2015 22:38)

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  31. "We Albanians have a dilemma, which neighbor should we love more, the Serbs who love killing civilians or the Greeks who love to do the same thing and defaulted on the IMF loan today or the Macedonians with identity crisis. If we could take our land, the Adriatic sea and the Mediterranean weather with us, we Albanians would have packed up long time ago"

    Pack up and get out of Kosovo, Alboonia is waiting for YOU!!!Serbs,Macedonians and Greeks are peace loving people unlike Albanian Moooslems that like to burn Churches and Monasteries, not to mention harvest Human organs, only sick Alboonians do that!!
    (vratnica, 30 June 2015 22:29)

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  32. Serbian Prime Minister Aleksandar Vucic told journalists that the two delegations reached no agreement on any of the four issues they discussed.

    Vucic said that the delegations were very close to reaching an agreement on the future Community Serb municipalities (ZSO).


    Vucic added that progress has been made in connection with telecommunications, but no agreement was finalized.

    And then we have:
    In a statement released after the meeting, she said that the text of two agreements was finalized - "on principles of the establishment of the Association/Community of Serb majority municipalities in Kosovo and on the implementation arrangements in the field of telecoms."

    And we have:

    The new round of the Belgrade-Pristina agreement ended after 17 hours of negotiations yielding no results, and Serbian Prime Minister Aleksandar Vucic told reporters that the two delegations did not come to an agreement on a single issue

    Me thinks someone is lying,
    It sounds like it is up to Serbs to determine who.

    But maybe neither as many "she" was talking about the dictated text which will be accepted and not actually one that Serbia has free input on!
    (Which one is it??, 30 June 2015 22:21)

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  33. Albanians complain about disscrimination in Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro and Greece but to minorities in their own societies the are giving nothing.
    (MikeC, 30 June 2015 17:00)

    MikeC,
    Why do you continue to comment on things you know nothing about, you are not even a Serb, though you claim your wife is Serbian. I doubt you have ever been in the Balkans, it is clear from your naive remarks. You only parrot what you've heard about Albania. Try visiting, most young Albanians speak English, you will be amazed in a positive sense by the people and country. You are, unwittingly, making yourself look foolish to the many foreigners, including Serbs, that have actually visited Albania recently.
    (The Count of Kosova, 30 June 2015 21:35)

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  34. What assets is Vuqke talking about???
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    Probably the properties and hotels in Pristina and allowed Kosovo that you tried to take over.
    (Daniel, 30 June 2015 19:40)

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  35. Serbia is the entire problem. Vucic has to schedule a referendum where voters decide to remove Kosovo from serbias constitution.
    (Brian, 30 June 2015 19:39)

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  36. We Albanians have a dilemma, which neighbor should we love more, the Serbs who love killing civilians or the Greeks who love to do the same thing and defaulted on the IMF loan today or the Macedonians with identity crisis. If we could take our land, the Adriatic sea and the Mediterranean weather with us, we Albanians would have packed up long time ago.
    (Shqiptar, 30 June 2015 19:08)

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  37. What do Serbs really want?
    (Shqiptar, 30 June 2015 17:10)

    The same rights you were demanding in Yugoslavia.
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  38. What do Serbs really want? Do they want to undermine the sovereignty of Kosovo? It's about trust people, and no we Albanians don't trust Serbs or ZSO. When you recognize us as equal then we will treat you as equal. When I say us I mean "the entire Albanian Nation". Respect my man, Respect.
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  39. Kosova is and was ALWAYS Albanian.
    (American Billy, 30 June 2015 16:40)

    even though Albania didn't exist until 1912, Kosovo is a Serbian name, the land is full of Serbian, Turkish, and Roman ruins and Albanians didn't live there in any large numbers until around 1700.
    (the actual truth, 30 June 2015 17:08)

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  40. Albanians complain about disscrimination in Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro and Greece but to minorities in their own societies the are giving nothing.
    (MikeC, 30 June 2015 17:00)

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  41. uneducated goat herders....
    (Grobar1, 30 June 2015 16:44)

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  42. Why is there even dialogue? Kosovo is an INDEPENDENT country and now sovereign. There is NOTHING to discuss with serbs. Serbia needs to focus on SERBIA. Kosova is and was ALWAYS Albanian.
    (American Billy, 30 June 2015 16:40)

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  43. "We have managed to preserve the assets of Telekom (Srbija)

    What assets is Vuqke talking about???
    (the truth, 30 June 2015 16:36)

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  44. "They were asking for executive powers for the ZSO, and it is against our law and constitution," explained Mustafa.

    That's rich coming from a group who cared little for the 1974 Constitution in 1981. That's even richer coming from a group who clings to the belief that fighting as the minority underdog is a fundamental part of their history. Funny how the liberated minority quickly morphs into the stubborn majority - especially when said laws and constitution were designed by members of the international community and have been amended already under pressure from members of the international community.
    (Balkan Anthropologist, 30 June 2015 15:08)

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  45. It's a waste of time and effort the Albanian Terrorist will not accept any negotiations what so ever they think they have the hand, show them the middle finger and tell them you don't negotiate with terrorists.
    (CCCC, 30 June 2015 14:44)

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