Panel discusses "new Cold War" - and if it will remain cold
NEW YORK -- A panel discussion dubbed, “The West and Russia: A New Cold War?" was organized in New York by the CIRSD think-tank.
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After Belgrade, the organization's magazine, Horizons, was also presented in New York on the occasion.
Among the participants in the panel were Russian Ambassador to the UN Vitaly Churkin and former German Defense Minister Karl Theodor zu Guttenberg. They put forward different views about who is responsible for the one-year civil war in Ukraine.
The Cold War will hopefully "remain that in name only" and will not turn into a conflict between the West and Russia, the panelists who gathered at the Harvard Club agreed - but failed to see eye to eye on almost every other issue.
Churkin commented on Wednesday's initiative presented by Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko to have international peacekeepers deployed in Ukraine to say it was "unnecessary."
"I was surprised by this request, because five days ago a peace agreement was reached in Minsk in which there is no mention of UN peacekeeping forces or of the European Union police. Rather than present new ideas, what has been agreed a few days ago should be implemented," Churkin said.
Karl Theodor zu Guttenberg said that Ukraine has the right to choose for itself whether to join NATO, but recalled that his country did not in the past support the idea, and was not in favor of sending weapons to Kiev. He, however, stated that Russia was "responsible for what is happening now in Ukraine."
"Many say that the Minsk agreement is already dead, but I think it is not. It's now important that arms are no longer sent to the rebels from Russia. A number of EU states now want the situation to calm down and for talks to take place," said the former German minister.
Well-known American economist and Columbia University professor Jeffrey Sachs had no words of praise for the foreign policy of his country. He said that the unipolar world that emerged during the first Bush administration continues to be a way of thinking in Washington.
"We attacked one country after another as soon as we were given the opportunity. We brought down Saddam, Gaddafi, supported the rebels against Assad in Syria. The entire Middle East is on fire today, all of North Africa," said Sachs.
Vuk Jeremic commented to say he thought the panel was "interesting for the American audience," and added that "there can be peace in Ukraine."
"The conclusion of today's debate is that the situation is difficult, but there is room for finding common denominators. I hope that our debate organized in New York made at least a minimum contribution to finding such a solution," Jeremic said.
Another participant was former Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, who pointed out that it was "a collective failure of the international foreign policy" that led to civil war in Ukraine.
The biggest reason why that once-unimportant, faceless scumbag V.V. Putin became who he did became is America's and NATO's foreign policy. Blame yourself, you created the monster.
BTW: he does not even know how to speak high-class Russian, he is a low-class muzhik scum, a true geci.
His buddy, Yakunin, the head of Russian Railway used to be the biggest communist - now he writes books how to be a pravoslav Russian patriot. The same time his kids have a very pravoslav, Russian-patriotic mansion near London... because London is very pravoslav and very Russian-patriotic, I guess.
And as for railway... Yakunin knows only German cars which have a three-legged star in the front, I guess. But you who read all this have no money to rent such car for a day. Neither I do. He has many of them of his own, believe me. Like Putin - a true pravoslav Russian patriot he is...
(Ataman, 21 February 2015 14:46)
"New Cold War-Unipolar World"
Old cold war started almost immediately after World War 2 Iron Curtain descended across Europe from the Baltic to the Adriatic excluding Greece.In addition Germany was divided(East and West)NATO was formed to defend what was left of Europe.This arrangement was grudgingly accepted by the West,they never militarily participated in armed insurrections of some of the Soviet satellite States, tried to break from orbit. Right after the collapse of communism in Soviet Union all of the Eastern European State became free and Germany was re-united,USA led West started wars in Balkans and in Middle East.Some of these wars still continue and expanded to Africa.What these wars are all about?Global Westernization?Impositions of Western culture and values? Unipolar World is bad news.Eventually will end-up in nuclear waste.
(lukebuyenovich, 20 February 2015 05:11)
"New Cold War-Unipolar World"
Old cold war started almost immediately after World War 2 Iron Curtain descended across Europe from the Baltic to the Adriatic excluding Greece.In addition Germany was divided(East and West)NATO was formed to defend what was left of Europe.This arrangement was grudgingly accepted by the West,they never militarily participated in armed insurrections of some of the Soviet satellite States, tried to break from orbit. Right after the collapse of communism in Soviet Union all of the Eastern European State became free and Germany was re-united,USA led West started wars in Balkans and in Middle East.Some of these wars still continue and expanded to Africa.What these wars are all about?Global Westernization?Impositions of Western culture and values? Unipolar World is bad news.Eventually will end-up in nuclear waste.
(lukebuyenovich, 20 February 2015 05:11)
The biggest reason why that once-unimportant, faceless scumbag V.V. Putin became who he did became is America's and NATO's foreign policy. Blame yourself, you created the monster.
BTW: he does not even know how to speak high-class Russian, he is a low-class muzhik scum, a true geci.
His buddy, Yakunin, the head of Russian Railway used to be the biggest communist - now he writes books how to be a pravoslav Russian patriot. The same time his kids have a very pravoslav, Russian-patriotic mansion near London... because London is very pravoslav and very Russian-patriotic, I guess.
And as for railway... Yakunin knows only German cars which have a three-legged star in the front, I guess. But you who read all this have no money to rent such car for a day. Neither I do. He has many of them of his own, believe me. Like Putin - a true pravoslav Russian patriot he is...
(Ataman, 21 February 2015 14:46)
"New Cold War-Unipolar World"
Old cold war started almost immediately after World War 2 Iron Curtain descended across Europe from the Baltic to the Adriatic excluding Greece.In addition Germany was divided(East and West)NATO was formed to defend what was left of Europe.This arrangement was grudgingly accepted by the West,they never militarily participated in armed insurrections of some of the Soviet satellite States, tried to break from orbit. Right after the collapse of communism in Soviet Union all of the Eastern European State became free and Germany was re-united,USA led West started wars in Balkans and in Middle East.Some of these wars still continue and expanded to Africa.What these wars are all about?Global Westernization?Impositions of Western culture and values? Unipolar World is bad news.Eventually will end-up in nuclear waste.
(lukebuyenovich, 20 February 2015 05:11)
The biggest reason why that once-unimportant, faceless scumbag V.V. Putin became who he did became is America's and NATO's foreign policy. Blame yourself, you created the monster.
BTW: he does not even know how to speak high-class Russian, he is a low-class muzhik scum, a true geci.
His buddy, Yakunin, the head of Russian Railway used to be the biggest communist - now he writes books how to be a pravoslav Russian patriot. The same time his kids have a very pravoslav, Russian-patriotic mansion near London... because London is very pravoslav and very Russian-patriotic, I guess.
And as for railway... Yakunin knows only German cars which have a three-legged star in the front, I guess. But you who read all this have no money to rent such car for a day. Neither I do. He has many of them of his own, believe me. Like Putin - a true pravoslav Russian patriot he is...
(Ataman, 21 February 2015 14:46)