THE HAGUE -- Reconciliation in the Balkans is a task for leaders rather than the Hague Tribunal, although it has a role in this process, Theodor Meron has said.
THE HAGUE -- Reconciliation in the Balkans is a task for leaders rather than the Hague Tribunal, although it has a role in this process, Theodor Meron has said.
Source: Tanjug
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The judge also wrote that a verdict in this case will be passed as soon as possible, "immediately after July 2015."
"While I understand your concern about the provisional release of Vojislav Šešelj and the possible impact of this event on the process of reconciliation in the Balkans, as well as the role of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia in the process, I always believed that politicians, religious and other community leaders within their societies should be the ones to accelerate it," Meron wrote in his response to Josipović.
Josipović previously voiced his dissatisfaction with the release of Šešelj by saying that "the potential escalation of Šešelj's political activities and his hate speech are a serious threat to peace and stability in Southeast Europe."
"With this, fear is spread among people, especially among the victims and witnesses, and it undermines the reputation of international justice. I appeal on you that the court does everything in its power to restore the shaken trust in international justice and not to allow that Šešelj to demean the victim with his activities," wrote the Croatian president.
He also warned Meron that the fact there was no ruling in the case even after 12 years eroded the reputation of the court, the Croatian daily Jutarnji List reported.
Meron replied that, although he presided over the court, he had no great influence on the cases that he was not involved in, but assured Josipović that a verdict would be passed "soon after July 2015" - the deadline demanded by the current judge to learn about the case, considering that the previous judge withdrew from the process.
Meron added that several things influenced the case, "such as the insufficient number number of courtrooms, the medical condition of the accused, and the fact he is defending himself, as well as the replacing of a judge."
(icj1, 27 November 2014 18:19) In unauthenticated Wikileak cables ...not shared by the international community
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Mate: Which are you talking about? The US government prosecution and conviction of Private Manning to 35 years prison was based on the leak of authentic classified documents, which included the cables from US embassies.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 28 November 2014 09:45)
Oh, great - you even have the court records. Then it should be easy for you to provide the "Wikileak cables between Meron and the US embassy" and the evidence that the US government certified that specific "Wikileak cable" as authentic.
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Further, there are members of the "International Community" that are protecting Julian Assange and other brave whistle blowers.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 28 November 2014 09:45)
Oh yeah, sure, but not the "international community".
(icj1, 29 November 2014 04:02)
(icj1, 27 November 2014 18:19) In unauthenticated Wikileak cables ...not shared by the international community
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Mate: Which are you talking about? The US government prosecution and conviction of Private Manning to 35 years prison was based on the leak of authentic classified documents, which included the cables from US embassies. Further, there are members of the "International Community" that are protecting Julian Assange and other brave whistle blowers.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 28 November 2014 09:45)
In Wikileak cables between Meron and the US embassy, Meron himself condemns the OTP and Carla Del Ponte specifically with gross incompetence and wasting court resources on cases with insufficient evidence. That the chief Judge of a tribunal conspires with a government to dictate the removal of a chief prosecutor reflects the farce that has been masquerading as Justice at the ICTY circus.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 27 November 2014 09:23)
That's a great post and I'd hate to be wasted so I'm slightly correcting it to match the facts:
In unauthenticated Wikileak cables between Meron and the US embassy, Meron himself allegedly condemns the OTP and Carla Del Ponte specifically with gross incompetence and allegedly wasting court resources on cases with insufficient evidence. That the chief Judge of a tribunal allegedly conspires with a government to allegedly dictate the removal of a chief prosecutor reflects the alleged farce that has been masquerading as Justice at the ICTY circus.
P.S. Allegations made by a certain "Amnesty Yugoslavia" but not shared by the international community
(icj1, 27 November 2014 18:19)
The incompetency of the ICTY circus is perfectly exemplified by Meron's comments. He states "the previous judge withdrew". Wrong. The previous judge did not "withdraw" he was disqualified by a trial decision in response to defence motion on 28 Aug 2013.
Meron (also) replied "...he had no great influence on the cases". Not according to Judge Harhoff and the numerous inculpatory communications between Meron and the US government via the US embassy in the Hague.
Meron also stated there were "insufficient number of courtrooms". Laughable. A better excuse would have been that the ICTY dog ate their homework.
In Wikileak cables between Meron and the US embassy, Meron himself condemns the OTP and Carla Del Ponte specifically with gross incompetence and wasting court resources on cases with insufficient evidence. That the chief Judge of a tribunal conspires with a government to dictate the removal of a chief prosecutor reflects the farce that has been masquerading as Justice at the ICTY circus.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 27 November 2014 09:23)
"the more rights you have. At the end of the day Seselj's words are just that 'words' and have no meaning other then to the sick twisted Chetniks who think Seselj will bring them a GS."
So why are you so scared and what do u expect him to be convicted of if his words are just words? First you call him a criminal and then you say that words are just words, you really proove how sick you are more and more every day. Tell me, what has he been convicted of?
An innocent man unlike your butchers Gotovina and Markac.
(Daniel, 25 November 2014 19:10)
It's really shocking to see how the release of this old dying man has completely rattled Croatia. I've never seen anything like this. A Croatian politician named Daniel Srb (interesting last name) has called for Croatia to "mobilize troops" due to Seselj's return to the Balkans. Obviously we all know the Croatian military isn't capable of defeating Serbia's. It's all a matter of whether they would get external support again or not. Vassals
(Ari Gold, 24 November 2014 20:26)
That is the dumbest thing ever written by a jurist. The accused was not given a speedy trial because the UN did not spend enough money on this circus!
(marKo, 24 November 2014 17:12)
Meron looks foolish ... using lack of courtroom space as an excuse for failure.
That an individual has been on trial for 12 years without a conviction is proof of incompetence and/or innocence, regardless of the excuses.
If Seselj has metastasis to the liver, Meron et al are hoping he dies by July 2015, thereby saving themselves from further embarrassment.
(Roger7, 24 November 2014 15:43)
When Albanian's and Croatian's where let out , no one complaint.He went to Hague on his own free will and didn't run and play hide and seek with the world.Every person is not guilty until prevent guilty which is taking already more than 10 YEAR'S!
(sasa p, 24 November 2014 14:37)
What kind of penal colony is the E.U running? By letting Seselj out on temporary release is like allowing Charles Manson a congical visit. It appears that the bigger criminal you are....the more rights you have. At the end of the day Seselj's words are just that 'words' and have no meaning other then to the sick twisted Chetniks who think Seselj will bring them a GS. Someone needs to let Seselj know..as it appears that being in The Hague has lowered his I.Q that the Serbian flag currently DOES NOT & NEVER WILL fly over Vukovar, Knin, Sarajevo, Pristina and many other towns and cities. Seselj do you want another oluja you can't handle.
(Bam Bam, 24 November 2014 13:14)
Then why are you filling your nappies?
(sj, 24 November 2014 13:55)
What kind of penal colony is the E.U running? By letting Seselj out on temporary release is like allowing Charles Manson a congical visit. It appears that the bigger criminal you are....the more rights you have. At the end of the day Seselj's words are just that 'words' and have no meaning other then to the sick twisted Chetniks who think Seselj will bring them a GS. Someone needs to let Seselj know..as it appears that being in The Hague has lowered his I.Q that the Serbian flag currently DOES NOT & NEVER WILL fly over Vukovar, Knin, Sarajevo, Pristina and many other towns and cities. Seselj do you want another oluja you can't handle.
(Bam Bam, 24 November 2014 13:14)
When Albanian's and Croatian's where let out , no one complaint.He went to Hague on his own free will and didn't run and play hide and seek with the world.Every person is not guilty until prevent guilty which is taking already more than 10 YEAR'S!
(sasa p, 24 November 2014 14:37)
What kind of penal colony is the E.U running? By letting Seselj out on temporary release is like allowing Charles Manson a congical visit. It appears that the bigger criminal you are....the more rights you have. At the end of the day Seselj's words are just that 'words' and have no meaning other then to the sick twisted Chetniks who think Seselj will bring them a GS. Someone needs to let Seselj know..as it appears that being in The Hague has lowered his I.Q that the Serbian flag currently DOES NOT & NEVER WILL fly over Vukovar, Knin, Sarajevo, Pristina and many other towns and cities. Seselj do you want another oluja you can't handle.
(Bam Bam, 24 November 2014 13:14)
Then why are you filling your nappies?
(sj, 24 November 2014 13:55)
Meron looks foolish ... using lack of courtroom space as an excuse for failure.
That an individual has been on trial for 12 years without a conviction is proof of incompetence and/or innocence, regardless of the excuses.
If Seselj has metastasis to the liver, Meron et al are hoping he dies by July 2015, thereby saving themselves from further embarrassment.
(Roger7, 24 November 2014 15:43)
What kind of penal colony is the E.U running? By letting Seselj out on temporary release is like allowing Charles Manson a congical visit. It appears that the bigger criminal you are....the more rights you have. At the end of the day Seselj's words are just that 'words' and have no meaning other then to the sick twisted Chetniks who think Seselj will bring them a GS. Someone needs to let Seselj know..as it appears that being in The Hague has lowered his I.Q that the Serbian flag currently DOES NOT & NEVER WILL fly over Vukovar, Knin, Sarajevo, Pristina and many other towns and cities. Seselj do you want another oluja you can't handle.
(Bam Bam, 24 November 2014 13:14)
It's really shocking to see how the release of this old dying man has completely rattled Croatia. I've never seen anything like this. A Croatian politician named Daniel Srb (interesting last name) has called for Croatia to "mobilize troops" due to Seselj's return to the Balkans. Obviously we all know the Croatian military isn't capable of defeating Serbia's. It's all a matter of whether they would get external support again or not. Vassals
(Ari Gold, 24 November 2014 20:26)
That is the dumbest thing ever written by a jurist. The accused was not given a speedy trial because the UN did not spend enough money on this circus!
(marKo, 24 November 2014 17:12)
"the more rights you have. At the end of the day Seselj's words are just that 'words' and have no meaning other then to the sick twisted Chetniks who think Seselj will bring them a GS."
So why are you so scared and what do u expect him to be convicted of if his words are just words? First you call him a criminal and then you say that words are just words, you really proove how sick you are more and more every day. Tell me, what has he been convicted of?
An innocent man unlike your butchers Gotovina and Markac.
(Daniel, 25 November 2014 19:10)
(icj1, 27 November 2014 18:19) In unauthenticated Wikileak cables ...not shared by the international community
-----
Mate: Which are you talking about? The US government prosecution and conviction of Private Manning to 35 years prison was based on the leak of authentic classified documents, which included the cables from US embassies. Further, there are members of the "International Community" that are protecting Julian Assange and other brave whistle blowers.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 28 November 2014 09:45)
The incompetency of the ICTY circus is perfectly exemplified by Meron's comments. He states "the previous judge withdrew". Wrong. The previous judge did not "withdraw" he was disqualified by a trial decision in response to defence motion on 28 Aug 2013.
Meron (also) replied "...he had no great influence on the cases". Not according to Judge Harhoff and the numerous inculpatory communications between Meron and the US government via the US embassy in the Hague.
Meron also stated there were "insufficient number of courtrooms". Laughable. A better excuse would have been that the ICTY dog ate their homework.
In Wikileak cables between Meron and the US embassy, Meron himself condemns the OTP and Carla Del Ponte specifically with gross incompetence and wasting court resources on cases with insufficient evidence. That the chief Judge of a tribunal conspires with a government to dictate the removal of a chief prosecutor reflects the farce that has been masquerading as Justice at the ICTY circus.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 27 November 2014 09:23)
In Wikileak cables between Meron and the US embassy, Meron himself condemns the OTP and Carla Del Ponte specifically with gross incompetence and wasting court resources on cases with insufficient evidence. That the chief Judge of a tribunal conspires with a government to dictate the removal of a chief prosecutor reflects the farce that has been masquerading as Justice at the ICTY circus.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 27 November 2014 09:23)
That's a great post and I'd hate to be wasted so I'm slightly correcting it to match the facts:
In unauthenticated Wikileak cables between Meron and the US embassy, Meron himself allegedly condemns the OTP and Carla Del Ponte specifically with gross incompetence and allegedly wasting court resources on cases with insufficient evidence. That the chief Judge of a tribunal allegedly conspires with a government to allegedly dictate the removal of a chief prosecutor reflects the alleged farce that has been masquerading as Justice at the ICTY circus.
P.S. Allegations made by a certain "Amnesty Yugoslavia" but not shared by the international community
(icj1, 27 November 2014 18:19)
(icj1, 27 November 2014 18:19) In unauthenticated Wikileak cables ...not shared by the international community
-----
Mate: Which are you talking about? The US government prosecution and conviction of Private Manning to 35 years prison was based on the leak of authentic classified documents, which included the cables from US embassies.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 28 November 2014 09:45)
Oh, great - you even have the court records. Then it should be easy for you to provide the "Wikileak cables between Meron and the US embassy" and the evidence that the US government certified that specific "Wikileak cable" as authentic.
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Further, there are members of the "International Community" that are protecting Julian Assange and other brave whistle blowers.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 28 November 2014 09:45)
Oh yeah, sure, but not the "international community".
(icj1, 29 November 2014 04:02)
What kind of penal colony is the E.U running? By letting Seselj out on temporary release is like allowing Charles Manson a congical visit. It appears that the bigger criminal you are....the more rights you have. At the end of the day Seselj's words are just that 'words' and have no meaning other then to the sick twisted Chetniks who think Seselj will bring them a GS. Someone needs to let Seselj know..as it appears that being in The Hague has lowered his I.Q that the Serbian flag currently DOES NOT & NEVER WILL fly over Vukovar, Knin, Sarajevo, Pristina and many other towns and cities. Seselj do you want another oluja you can't handle.
(Bam Bam, 24 November 2014 13:14)
What kind of penal colony is the E.U running? By letting Seselj out on temporary release is like allowing Charles Manson a congical visit. It appears that the bigger criminal you are....the more rights you have. At the end of the day Seselj's words are just that 'words' and have no meaning other then to the sick twisted Chetniks who think Seselj will bring them a GS. Someone needs to let Seselj know..as it appears that being in The Hague has lowered his I.Q that the Serbian flag currently DOES NOT & NEVER WILL fly over Vukovar, Knin, Sarajevo, Pristina and many other towns and cities. Seselj do you want another oluja you can't handle.
(Bam Bam, 24 November 2014 13:14)
Then why are you filling your nappies?
(sj, 24 November 2014 13:55)
It's really shocking to see how the release of this old dying man has completely rattled Croatia. I've never seen anything like this. A Croatian politician named Daniel Srb (interesting last name) has called for Croatia to "mobilize troops" due to Seselj's return to the Balkans. Obviously we all know the Croatian military isn't capable of defeating Serbia's. It's all a matter of whether they would get external support again or not. Vassals
(Ari Gold, 24 November 2014 20:26)
When Albanian's and Croatian's where let out , no one complaint.He went to Hague on his own free will and didn't run and play hide and seek with the world.Every person is not guilty until prevent guilty which is taking already more than 10 YEAR'S!
(sasa p, 24 November 2014 14:37)
Meron looks foolish ... using lack of courtroom space as an excuse for failure.
That an individual has been on trial for 12 years without a conviction is proof of incompetence and/or innocence, regardless of the excuses.
If Seselj has metastasis to the liver, Meron et al are hoping he dies by July 2015, thereby saving themselves from further embarrassment.
(Roger7, 24 November 2014 15:43)
"the more rights you have. At the end of the day Seselj's words are just that 'words' and have no meaning other then to the sick twisted Chetniks who think Seselj will bring them a GS."
So why are you so scared and what do u expect him to be convicted of if his words are just words? First you call him a criminal and then you say that words are just words, you really proove how sick you are more and more every day. Tell me, what has he been convicted of?
An innocent man unlike your butchers Gotovina and Markac.
(Daniel, 25 November 2014 19:10)
That is the dumbest thing ever written by a jurist. The accused was not given a speedy trial because the UN did not spend enough money on this circus!
(marKo, 24 November 2014 17:12)
In Wikileak cables between Meron and the US embassy, Meron himself condemns the OTP and Carla Del Ponte specifically with gross incompetence and wasting court resources on cases with insufficient evidence. That the chief Judge of a tribunal conspires with a government to dictate the removal of a chief prosecutor reflects the farce that has been masquerading as Justice at the ICTY circus.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 27 November 2014 09:23)
That's a great post and I'd hate to be wasted so I'm slightly correcting it to match the facts:
In unauthenticated Wikileak cables between Meron and the US embassy, Meron himself allegedly condemns the OTP and Carla Del Ponte specifically with gross incompetence and allegedly wasting court resources on cases with insufficient evidence. That the chief Judge of a tribunal allegedly conspires with a government to allegedly dictate the removal of a chief prosecutor reflects the alleged farce that has been masquerading as Justice at the ICTY circus.
P.S. Allegations made by a certain "Amnesty Yugoslavia" but not shared by the international community
(icj1, 27 November 2014 18:19)
The incompetency of the ICTY circus is perfectly exemplified by Meron's comments. He states "the previous judge withdrew". Wrong. The previous judge did not "withdraw" he was disqualified by a trial decision in response to defence motion on 28 Aug 2013.
Meron (also) replied "...he had no great influence on the cases". Not according to Judge Harhoff and the numerous inculpatory communications between Meron and the US government via the US embassy in the Hague.
Meron also stated there were "insufficient number of courtrooms". Laughable. A better excuse would have been that the ICTY dog ate their homework.
In Wikileak cables between Meron and the US embassy, Meron himself condemns the OTP and Carla Del Ponte specifically with gross incompetence and wasting court resources on cases with insufficient evidence. That the chief Judge of a tribunal conspires with a government to dictate the removal of a chief prosecutor reflects the farce that has been masquerading as Justice at the ICTY circus.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 27 November 2014 09:23)
(icj1, 27 November 2014 18:19) In unauthenticated Wikileak cables ...not shared by the international community
-----
Mate: Which are you talking about? The US government prosecution and conviction of Private Manning to 35 years prison was based on the leak of authentic classified documents, which included the cables from US embassies.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 28 November 2014 09:45)
Oh, great - you even have the court records. Then it should be easy for you to provide the "Wikileak cables between Meron and the US embassy" and the evidence that the US government certified that specific "Wikileak cable" as authentic.
----------
Further, there are members of the "International Community" that are protecting Julian Assange and other brave whistle blowers.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 28 November 2014 09:45)
Oh yeah, sure, but not the "international community".
(icj1, 29 November 2014 04:02)
(icj1, 27 November 2014 18:19) In unauthenticated Wikileak cables ...not shared by the international community
-----
Mate: Which are you talking about? The US government prosecution and conviction of Private Manning to 35 years prison was based on the leak of authentic classified documents, which included the cables from US embassies. Further, there are members of the "International Community" that are protecting Julian Assange and other brave whistle blowers.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 28 November 2014 09:45)