1. The croats are as far from scandinavian as possible, you came from Iran.
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    (Daniel, 27 February 2015 19:08) Sure that is very plausible when all the people spoke a same language and lived in the same area of Iraq/Iran plain of Shinar. After the flood and God mixed their languages [link] and they scattered to the four winds. All it makes is the bible as true.
    (Lenard, 27 February 2015 22:59)

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  2. Lenard
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    I stake much on the haplogroups to reveal the true history of ours because in all the times history was „improved“ to suit the current regime. For Leonard I have to say that we all are cockails and this „I“ haplogroup won’t stop you from being a Slav. As far as I can remember this haplogroup makes only 10% of the Europeans because they were eliminated twice in 14 and in 15 centuries by the Horde. It was the only way to save the empire from the horrible epidemies. South of Europe and the west of Europe suffered most. Later this territories were inhabited by the Horde people and this is why the English, French , Spaniars , Dutch ect. have so much of the R1b haplogroup. It’s a sister group to the Slav R1a. Both are Aryan and this is why their languages have so much in common with the Slavs. Same with the Iranian and Afghan languages. Pashtoons have more of R1a than the Russians while the Persians have both R1a and R1b. You both won’t believe how many words they have mutual to the Russian , German , English ect. Daniel there are 4 peoples more or less of Iranian orygin in the Caucasus – the Ossetians, Armenians , Gorsky Jews and Kurds. Armenians have their own language while 3 others speak proto-Iranian. Most likely during the Migration Period n 14-16 centuries the Ossetians’ ancestors (Alans=Sarmatians= Scytians=Goths) left their R1b halogroups on the Balkans and especially in the west of Europe. 90% of the Balkan people came here with the Horde.
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  3. hat one. Haplogroup I Croatians [link] the original Europeans. Who weathered the last ice age in Croatia and Bosnia who have the most of Haplogroup I. I could tell you more but you could not take it.
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    The croats are as far from scandinavian as possible, you came from Iran.
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  4. Леонард !


    With Mauro Orbini you gain much and I said it several times that Albanians came here together with the Slavs and their haplogrops prove it. In 18-19 centuries the Russian language has changed much but before that it was very close to Bulgar-Macedonian and Srbo-Chrvatsky. The real history was replaced in 17-18 centuries when the Turks were exposed as the evil of the world. In fact those were peoples from the Balkans and South Russia who terrorized proto-Turks for centuries. Turks were a discriminated 5% minority in the Ottoman Empire that before the 18 century was an Orthodox Christian Empire including all their famous Sultans. The battle on the Kosovo Polije of 1389 also had nothing to do to Turk-Serb relation. It was one of the 3 great battles of Tamerlane and Dmitry Donskoy (Murad I). It was a 2 decade civil war inside the Horde that had started in 1380 at Kulikovo Polije where later Moscow was built. Then Dmitry took the upper hand and they called him DONSKOY. He was the Khan of the White Horde and the formal head of the whole Great Horde thus ruling the world from Veliki Novgorod (now Yaroslavl) but on Kosovo field he was killed and few years later his son Vasily (Bayazed I) was captured and also killed. Tamerlane had no right to kill them and neither he even tried to seize their power over the Great Horde. He retreated instead and seized other lands in Europe, Africa and Asia.

    We can talk about the haplogroups next time if you behave of course.
    (rote, 26 February 2015 15:14)

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  5. Orbini'book is A FANTASY one ..like saying that Lancelot and the Round table have been real people in medioeval England... (Luigi, 26 February 2015 10:35)

    Fantasies are the tales about the “Ancient Rome” on Apennines and Vatican both built by the Russian Baty Khan (Ivan Danilovich Kalita) in the 14-th century. In Rome city there are no buildings older than 1350 while on lots of “ancient” artifacts and monuments there are Christian and Muslim symbols that could merely exist before Christ and Mohammad. As for the Coliseum it was initially built as an artifact proving as if Rome existed long ago. Can you for a second imagine Italians as warriors who instead cooking pizza won a single war in the history ? Then how can you believe that people with such a peaceful genome could occupy the whole world ? Forget about and better go to opera or football – something that you really can do well. As for Orbini he was a talanted scientist to write a masterpiece in 1601 immediately forbidden in Europe and edited in Russia by Peter the Great in 1722.

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  6. Anthropology

    Orbin believed that the Slavs hailed from the Goths in Scandinavia. He also claimed that the Illyrians spoke Slavic. He supported Pribojević's view that Alexander the Great and the Macedonians were Slavs. Sure Rote you have now appreciation of Croatians. Well he was rite in many ways the Scandinavians the other way are descended of Croatians and he didn't need modern genetics to figure that one. Haplogroup I Croatians [link] the original Europeans. Who weathered the last ice age in Croatia and Bosnia who have the most of Haplogroup I. I could tell you more but you could not take it.
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  7. Please Rote...
    Orbini'book is A FANTASY one ..like saying that Lancelot and the Round table have been real people in medioeval England...
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  8. Лёня , привет !

    You know this Orban reminds me of one smart Croat monk. I mean Mauro Orbini. Not only their second names are similar but they both being parts of the Catholic West raised their lonesome voices in favor of their Motherland Russia. As you know both Hungarians and Croats came here with the Great Russian Horde that colonized Europe for 300 years since 14-th century. By the way out of 260 books that Orbini used to write his history of the Slavs 255 were burnt during Inquisition. So your projects how to deliver the Russian gas to the Balkans are just peanuts compared to what this famous Croat wrote.

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    Учись , студент, пока я живой !
    (rote, 26 February 2015 09:09)

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  9. Something weird is happening in Hungary...The Eu plans regarding energy are completly different from Victor's...
    i'm betting with some Hungarian friends that in one year time Orban will be forced out...
    (Luigi, 26 February 2015 09:06)

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  10. Orban added that Hungary was "in fact being blocked" by Romania and Croatia, as these countries have not completed the required gas interconnectors. Why do we need inter-connectors to the Huns since you are relying on Russia, Serbia and Turkey. The Croatian inter-connectors are directed to western Bosnia, Slovenia, Austria, Czechs, Slovakia, Poland so far.
    (Lenard, 25 February 2015 18:52)

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