SKOPJE -- Former leader of the ethnic Albanian Party for Democratic Action in Macedonia Nevzat Halili on Thursday in Skopje declared "the Republic of Ilirida."
SKOPJE -- Former leader of the ethnic Albanian Party for Democratic Action in Macedonia Nevzat Halili on Thursday in Skopje declared "the Republic of Ilirida."
Source: Tanjug
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Halili said that the new republic is also based "on the position of American President Woodrow Wilson who said that the people have a right to self-determination," the Macedonian media reported.
Halili asked Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski to initiate proceedings for the federalization of Macedonia.
As "president of Ilirida," he asked that Macedonia in the future functions as a state of two equal republics - llirida and Macedonia - modeled on the former Union of Serbia and Montenegro and the Belgian federation.
"We are not in favor of changing Macedonia's external borders, but administrative boundaries between Illirida and Macedonia should be defined. This should be done according to the model Serbia and Montenegro had a few years ago, and what Belgium has now," said Halili.
If the Macedonian institutions ignore these demands, he said, there would be a referendum.
"We Albanians have 400,000 votes in Macedonia," he explained.
Halili said the federalization of the country was necessary because the Ohrid agreement, although it stopped the conflict in 2001, failed to provide equality for Albanians.
The proclamation of the Republic of Ilirida was welcomed by Idriz Sinani, president of the International Forum for Human Rights, who said it marked an end to the discrimination against Albanians in Macedonia.
"It seems as if Albanian political parties that are today active in the Macedonian government and parliament have abandoned Albanian requests for equality with Slavic citizens."
"Macedonian Albanians have been manipulated for years, because it has been so many years and we are still second-class citizens, if not third-class. The war that began in the name of national unification of Albanians into a single state has lost its mission and ended up as an uprising for respect of human rights. It's called treason because no Albanian would pick up a rifle for the sake of human rights. Albanians struggle for freedom and national unification with the motherland, Albania," said Sinani.
Sinani urged "Illirida institutions" to respect that "every man" is free to enjoy these rights regardless of ethnicity, race, color and religion, because it is the only democratic way, which is based on modern human rights and freedoms.
Nevzat Halili declared the "Republic of Ilirida". Here is a fact about Halili, his political party the "Party for Democratic Prosperity" aka PDP won 0.03% of the vote in the 2014 election. I think that says a lot.
(Ian, UK, 19 September 2014 16:49)
And the article even says that this guy is a former leader of that party. I had no idea who he was but I do now after reading this article. Really wonder sometimes what goes in the mind of the B92 editors who choose what to put in these pages. The space taken by this article could have been used for some other article of surely higher value.
(Reader, 21 September 2014 16:14)
With Serbia, they recognized the illegitimate proclamation of independence by Pristina
(Ari Gold, 19 September 2014 18:34)
They recognized the proclamation of independence by Pristina which was in accordance with international law. There is nothing wrong in recognizing something that is in accordance with international law.
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With Greece it's even more serious. They don't have a real identity of their own, so they try to take Greek history and culture. I say try, because no sane person believes these people are descendants of Alexander the Great.
(Ari Gold, 19 September 2014 18:34)
Instead of "serious", I would call it laughable that arguments like that are brought by Greece in the 21st century as if anybody cares about Alexander the Great!.
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All of this while the Albanians are mounting to fully separate their communities from the Slav Macedonians. This republic b.s is nothing on its own, except a sign for what's coming.
(Ari Gold, 19 September 2014 18:34)
this land was a century ago a part of Serbia and even right before the final advancement of the Ottoman Empire into the Balkans, the city of Skoplje was capital to the short lived Serbian Empire. That is their truth history, not Alexander the Great.
(Ari Gold, 19 September 2014 18:34)
Oh, please... Is this the start of another "cradle of Serbdom" argument? It sounds like some many place in the Balkans are the "cradle of Serbdom" except for... Serbia itself :)
(icj1, 21 September 2014 01:13)
Leave Macedonia, go back to that armpit country of yours, and go back to dealing drugs and harvesting organs, the only thing Albanians are apparently good at.
(Mio, 19 September 2014 17:29)
Really? Didn't know that Albanians were that advanced in terms of medical facilities and surgeons.
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PS: Just a reminder that Kosovo is Serbia, regardless if that hideous red and black flag is planted in the ground.
(Mio, 19 September 2014 17:29)
Thanks mate, since it appears that people had forgotten about that - now that you said it, Kosovo became Serbia again... hurrah :)
(icj1, 21 September 2014 01:04)
Who is going to pay for this new basket case? Not even the EU is going to touch this one. They are not going to get the same babysitting program that Kosovo is getting. The Albanians really must have the black markets completely under control in Macedonia.
(Paul, 20 September 2014 21:23)
Slav Macedonians need to stop travelling down this suicidal path of alienating their largest neighbors who also happen to be Orthodox Christian states. It would truly be in the best interest of these people to "remember" that actually, this land was a century ago a part of Serbia...
(Ari Gold, 19 September 2014 18:34)
Check any reputable history book, ( Noel Malcolm's: A Short History Of Kosovo ), a century ago Skopje was an Albanian speaking city. Even Trotsky, working as a journalist, said as much when he reported the atrocities taking place against the Albanians by the Serbs. Additionally, Edith Durham confirmed this monstrous act.
Ari, you may try as you might to distort history, but there is too much evidence to the contrary.
(True European, 20 September 2014 15:50)
Please stop it ! I disapprove Macedonian behavior in the region but please do not mix Alexander here. Those are two different questions.
Otherwise explain how the Greek minority could seize almost the world and where’s the evidence of the fast vaporized Empire ? Today the Greeks compose 0,3% of the mankind and they are divided for 4 different groups. But as I understood only continental Greeks composed the great army. If the Greek share was bigger only 1 part of them composed the army. In Asia they are seeking any evidence of the army but all in vain. No Alexandria towns , no genetic marks … only coins as Leonidas said. But we find their coins all over Russia so what ?
What I mean is if only Alexander and his army ever existed it could be only a Slaw army though Alexander could equally be a Slaw or a Greek. At least Slaws invaded Iran , Afghanistan and India many times and left there a lot of evidence. We can talk about it if you offer any original ( not copy or copy of a copy) ancient document or artifact proving that the Greek or Roman (the one in Italy) Empire had ever existed. Also tell me why there’s no info about Jerusalem of in 1700-1900 ? Tell me how can someone be a mathematic using Greek figures and who was Karl the Great to establish the European civilization ??? Who were his parents , when was he born , where lived and why Austria is still called Oster Reich ? Forget about the General Staff and chose any issue to discuss without panic.
(yes it's me, 20 September 2014 15:50)
But there is a difference with Kosovo. Declaring/ Proclaiming yourself as independent doesn't mean you're actually independent unless you have the means and capability of making yourself independent. When Kosovo became independent, Kosovo had an overwhelming backing for independence, the "Republic of Ilirida" and them fictional micronations don't. Kosovo already had a government with powers before becoming independent, Kosovo was capable of establishing new ministries such as foreign affairs and defence; the "Republic of Ilirida" cannot establish such ministries. UNMIK handed over its governing powers to the Kosovo Assembly and the International Steering Group supervised Kosovo's independence before it handed over its powers to the Kosovo Assembly in September 2012; the so-called "Republic of Ilirida" won't have and doesn't have the capability to have the independent powers which Kosovo has. The so-called "Republic of Ilirida" doesn't have the capability of establishing diplomatic relations with other countries, joining international organisations, or having representation on the world stage unlike Kosovo. This so-called "Republic of Ilirida" is a bad joke.
(Ian, UK, 20 September 2014 14:12)
I just looked through the title "Republic of Ilirida" declared in Macedonia” and I misunderstood it as if they refused from FYORM or Macedonia name ... But now that I looked through the article I still can see some basis for optimism. FYORM is one of the US Troy Horses in the region. Once they have missed a chance to stick the Serbs against the Albanians. Very soon they needed help that Serbs could render. And now I can see no Balkan country to help them while the US is too far and too busy in the two starting wars against Russia and against their own ISIS bandits.
Albanians are a comparatively big regional destructive power to threaten their neighbors. To my mind it must push the local states cooperate in safety issues. But it does not happen. Say Macedonia conflicts all the neighbors so the Albanians can afford undermining one country after another. They are Albanians no matter what passports they have in their pockets for the time being.
Anyways I am sorry for my early congrats !
(rote, 20 September 2014 09:53)
I think the Macedonian diaspora are still fighting the old fights from the time they left the country - from before it was attacked by Albanians in the 2001 war. So that's why so many of them are still focused against Serbia and Greece. They left at a time propaganda was sponsored against Serbia to gear them up for "independence." And they are still in that phase and are ignoring the on-the-ground problems and threats by the Albanians.
(ida, 20 September 2014 04:46)
The Slav Macedonian elite has since the fall of Yugoslavia maintained a very hostile relationship towards both Serbia and Greece. With Serbia, they recognized the illegitimate proclamation of independence by Pristina, and continue to harass and even arrest members of the Serbian Orthodox Church on false charges. With Greece it's even more serious. They don't have a real identity of their own, so they try to take Greek history and culture. I say try, because no sane person believes these people are descendants of Alexander the Great.
All of this while the Albanians are mounting to fully separate their communities from the Slav Macedonians. This republic b.s is nothing on its own, except a sign for what's coming.
Slav Macedonians need to stop travelling down this suicidal path of alienating their largest neighbors who also happen to be Orthodox Christian states. It would truly be in the best interest of these people to "remember" that actually, this land was a century ago a part of Serbia and even right before the final advancement of the Ottoman Empire into the Balkans, the city of Skoplje was capital to the short lived Serbian Empire. That is their truth history, not Alexander the Great. I believe if they don't use their democratic right to vote in a referendum to join Serbia, they will soon have to start learning Albanian because the Albs are not playing!!!
(Ari Gold, 19 September 2014 18:34)
Funny how these Albanians keep dropping references to the USA, like if they keep kissing American butt like they always do, the American's will recognize this nonsense. Leave Macedonia, go back to that armpit country of yours, and go back to dealing drugs and harvesting organs, the only thing Albanians are apparently good at.
PS: Just a reminder that Kosovo is Serbia, regardless if that hideous red and black flag is planted in the ground.
(Mio, 19 September 2014 17:29)
"Nevzat Halili declared the "Republic of Ilirida". Here is a fact about Halili, his political party the "Party for Democratic Prosperity" aka PDP won 0.03% of the vote in the 2014 election. I think that says a lot."
(Ian, UK, 19 September 2014 16:49)
So what? Every self-proclaimed group of idiots has the right to declare themselves independent. Remember, the ICJ ruled that way in case of Kosovo. You have some more of these fanatsy states alla round the world, for example "Freetown Christiania" in Denmark, the "Principality of Hutt River" in Australia, and some dozens more.
(Comm. Parrisson, 19 September 2014 17:26)
Nevzat Halili declared the "Republic of Ilirida". Here is a fact about Halili, his political party the "Party for Democratic Prosperity" aka PDP won 0.03% of the vote in the 2014 election. I think that says a lot.
(Ian, UK, 19 September 2014 16:49)
I love it!!! some people just don't now when to quit. I hope the Muslim Albanians keep pushing their extreme agenda on the Christian's in southeast Europe. They will lose all their previous gains!
(robert1899, 19 September 2014 16:43)
The war that began in the name of national unification of Albanians into a single state has lost its mission and ended up as an uprising for respect of human rights. It's called treason because no Albanian would pick up a rifle for the sake of human rights. Albanians struggle for freedom and national unification with the motherland, Albania," said Sinani.
Comment -
Albania will come for macedonia though !.
Arn.Sweden.
(Arn.Sweden., 19 September 2014 16:38)
Congratulations, we evil slavs welcome your new political entity to the Balkan family of nations. we wish you all the best. :)
(Bulgar Of Ohrid, 19 September 2014 15:31)
The republic of Illirida ( LMFAO ) thats right next to Narnia
(Grobar1, 19 September 2014 13:11)
Haahaha, grobart your a comedian! However, reality is it will be right on Serbia's border, along with the Republic of Kosova & the Republic of Albania! Watch & learn grobart, as the reemergence & a reunified Illyria yet again manifests itself right before your very eyes! And grobart, believe me when I tell you, the Last laugh will be on you!!!
(Rocky, 19 September 2014 14:02)
The Slav Macedonian elite has since the fall of Yugoslavia maintained a very hostile relationship towards both Serbia and Greece. With Serbia, they recognized the illegitimate proclamation of independence by Pristina, and continue to harass and even arrest members of the Serbian Orthodox Church on false charges. With Greece it's even more serious. They don't have a real identity of their own, so they try to take Greek history and culture. I say try, because no sane person believes these people are descendants of Alexander the Great.
All of this while the Albanians are mounting to fully separate their communities from the Slav Macedonians. This republic b.s is nothing on its own, except a sign for what's coming.
Slav Macedonians need to stop travelling down this suicidal path of alienating their largest neighbors who also happen to be Orthodox Christian states. It would truly be in the best interest of these people to "remember" that actually, this land was a century ago a part of Serbia and even right before the final advancement of the Ottoman Empire into the Balkans, the city of Skoplje was capital to the short lived Serbian Empire. That is their truth history, not Alexander the Great. I believe if they don't use their democratic right to vote in a referendum to join Serbia, they will soon have to start learning Albanian because the Albs are not playing!!!
(Ari Gold, 19 September 2014 18:34)
I love it!!! some people just don't now when to quit. I hope the Muslim Albanians keep pushing their extreme agenda on the Christian's in southeast Europe. They will lose all their previous gains!
(robert1899, 19 September 2014 16:43)
The republic of Illirida ( LMFAO ) thats right next to Narnia
(Grobar1, 19 September 2014 13:11)
Haahaha, grobart your a comedian! However, reality is it will be right on Serbia's border, along with the Republic of Kosova & the Republic of Albania! Watch & learn grobart, as the reemergence & a reunified Illyria yet again manifests itself right before your very eyes! And grobart, believe me when I tell you, the Last laugh will be on you!!!
(Rocky, 19 September 2014 14:02)
Funny how these Albanians keep dropping references to the USA, like if they keep kissing American butt like they always do, the American's will recognize this nonsense. Leave Macedonia, go back to that armpit country of yours, and go back to dealing drugs and harvesting organs, the only thing Albanians are apparently good at.
PS: Just a reminder that Kosovo is Serbia, regardless if that hideous red and black flag is planted in the ground.
(Mio, 19 September 2014 17:29)
Nevzat Halili declared the "Republic of Ilirida". Here is a fact about Halili, his political party the "Party for Democratic Prosperity" aka PDP won 0.03% of the vote in the 2014 election. I think that says a lot.
(Ian, UK, 19 September 2014 16:49)
Congratulations, we evil slavs welcome your new political entity to the Balkan family of nations. we wish you all the best. :)
(Bulgar Of Ohrid, 19 September 2014 15:31)
The war that began in the name of national unification of Albanians into a single state has lost its mission and ended up as an uprising for respect of human rights. It's called treason because no Albanian would pick up a rifle for the sake of human rights. Albanians struggle for freedom and national unification with the motherland, Albania," said Sinani.
Comment -
Albania will come for macedonia though !.
Arn.Sweden.
(Arn.Sweden., 19 September 2014 16:38)
With Serbia, they recognized the illegitimate proclamation of independence by Pristina
(Ari Gold, 19 September 2014 18:34)
They recognized the proclamation of independence by Pristina which was in accordance with international law. There is nothing wrong in recognizing something that is in accordance with international law.
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With Greece it's even more serious. They don't have a real identity of their own, so they try to take Greek history and culture. I say try, because no sane person believes these people are descendants of Alexander the Great.
(Ari Gold, 19 September 2014 18:34)
Instead of "serious", I would call it laughable that arguments like that are brought by Greece in the 21st century as if anybody cares about Alexander the Great!.
----------
All of this while the Albanians are mounting to fully separate their communities from the Slav Macedonians. This republic b.s is nothing on its own, except a sign for what's coming.
(Ari Gold, 19 September 2014 18:34)
this land was a century ago a part of Serbia and even right before the final advancement of the Ottoman Empire into the Balkans, the city of Skoplje was capital to the short lived Serbian Empire. That is their truth history, not Alexander the Great.
(Ari Gold, 19 September 2014 18:34)
Oh, please... Is this the start of another "cradle of Serbdom" argument? It sounds like some many place in the Balkans are the "cradle of Serbdom" except for... Serbia itself :)
(icj1, 21 September 2014 01:13)
"Nevzat Halili declared the "Republic of Ilirida". Here is a fact about Halili, his political party the "Party for Democratic Prosperity" aka PDP won 0.03% of the vote in the 2014 election. I think that says a lot."
(Ian, UK, 19 September 2014 16:49)
So what? Every self-proclaimed group of idiots has the right to declare themselves independent. Remember, the ICJ ruled that way in case of Kosovo. You have some more of these fanatsy states alla round the world, for example "Freetown Christiania" in Denmark, the "Principality of Hutt River" in Australia, and some dozens more.
(Comm. Parrisson, 19 September 2014 17:26)
Who is going to pay for this new basket case? Not even the EU is going to touch this one. They are not going to get the same babysitting program that Kosovo is getting. The Albanians really must have the black markets completely under control in Macedonia.
(Paul, 20 September 2014 21:23)
Slav Macedonians need to stop travelling down this suicidal path of alienating their largest neighbors who also happen to be Orthodox Christian states. It would truly be in the best interest of these people to "remember" that actually, this land was a century ago a part of Serbia...
(Ari Gold, 19 September 2014 18:34)
Check any reputable history book, ( Noel Malcolm's: A Short History Of Kosovo ), a century ago Skopje was an Albanian speaking city. Even Trotsky, working as a journalist, said as much when he reported the atrocities taking place against the Albanians by the Serbs. Additionally, Edith Durham confirmed this monstrous act.
Ari, you may try as you might to distort history, but there is too much evidence to the contrary.
(True European, 20 September 2014 15:50)
Nevzat Halili declared the "Republic of Ilirida". Here is a fact about Halili, his political party the "Party for Democratic Prosperity" aka PDP won 0.03% of the vote in the 2014 election. I think that says a lot.
(Ian, UK, 19 September 2014 16:49)
And the article even says that this guy is a former leader of that party. I had no idea who he was but I do now after reading this article. Really wonder sometimes what goes in the mind of the B92 editors who choose what to put in these pages. The space taken by this article could have been used for some other article of surely higher value.
(Reader, 21 September 2014 16:14)
I think the Macedonian diaspora are still fighting the old fights from the time they left the country - from before it was attacked by Albanians in the 2001 war. So that's why so many of them are still focused against Serbia and Greece. They left at a time propaganda was sponsored against Serbia to gear them up for "independence." And they are still in that phase and are ignoring the on-the-ground problems and threats by the Albanians.
(ida, 20 September 2014 04:46)
Leave Macedonia, go back to that armpit country of yours, and go back to dealing drugs and harvesting organs, the only thing Albanians are apparently good at.
(Mio, 19 September 2014 17:29)
Really? Didn't know that Albanians were that advanced in terms of medical facilities and surgeons.
----------
PS: Just a reminder that Kosovo is Serbia, regardless if that hideous red and black flag is planted in the ground.
(Mio, 19 September 2014 17:29)
Thanks mate, since it appears that people had forgotten about that - now that you said it, Kosovo became Serbia again... hurrah :)
(icj1, 21 September 2014 01:04)
I just looked through the title "Republic of Ilirida" declared in Macedonia” and I misunderstood it as if they refused from FYORM or Macedonia name ... But now that I looked through the article I still can see some basis for optimism. FYORM is one of the US Troy Horses in the region. Once they have missed a chance to stick the Serbs against the Albanians. Very soon they needed help that Serbs could render. And now I can see no Balkan country to help them while the US is too far and too busy in the two starting wars against Russia and against their own ISIS bandits.
Albanians are a comparatively big regional destructive power to threaten their neighbors. To my mind it must push the local states cooperate in safety issues. But it does not happen. Say Macedonia conflicts all the neighbors so the Albanians can afford undermining one country after another. They are Albanians no matter what passports they have in their pockets for the time being.
Anyways I am sorry for my early congrats !
(rote, 20 September 2014 09:53)
Please stop it ! I disapprove Macedonian behavior in the region but please do not mix Alexander here. Those are two different questions.
Otherwise explain how the Greek minority could seize almost the world and where’s the evidence of the fast vaporized Empire ? Today the Greeks compose 0,3% of the mankind and they are divided for 4 different groups. But as I understood only continental Greeks composed the great army. If the Greek share was bigger only 1 part of them composed the army. In Asia they are seeking any evidence of the army but all in vain. No Alexandria towns , no genetic marks … only coins as Leonidas said. But we find their coins all over Russia so what ?
What I mean is if only Alexander and his army ever existed it could be only a Slaw army though Alexander could equally be a Slaw or a Greek. At least Slaws invaded Iran , Afghanistan and India many times and left there a lot of evidence. We can talk about it if you offer any original ( not copy or copy of a copy) ancient document or artifact proving that the Greek or Roman (the one in Italy) Empire had ever existed. Also tell me why there’s no info about Jerusalem of in 1700-1900 ? Tell me how can someone be a mathematic using Greek figures and who was Karl the Great to establish the European civilization ??? Who were his parents , when was he born , where lived and why Austria is still called Oster Reich ? Forget about the General Staff and chose any issue to discuss without panic.
(yes it's me, 20 September 2014 15:50)
But there is a difference with Kosovo. Declaring/ Proclaiming yourself as independent doesn't mean you're actually independent unless you have the means and capability of making yourself independent. When Kosovo became independent, Kosovo had an overwhelming backing for independence, the "Republic of Ilirida" and them fictional micronations don't. Kosovo already had a government with powers before becoming independent, Kosovo was capable of establishing new ministries such as foreign affairs and defence; the "Republic of Ilirida" cannot establish such ministries. UNMIK handed over its governing powers to the Kosovo Assembly and the International Steering Group supervised Kosovo's independence before it handed over its powers to the Kosovo Assembly in September 2012; the so-called "Republic of Ilirida" won't have and doesn't have the capability to have the independent powers which Kosovo has. The so-called "Republic of Ilirida" doesn't have the capability of establishing diplomatic relations with other countries, joining international organisations, or having representation on the world stage unlike Kosovo. This so-called "Republic of Ilirida" is a bad joke.
(Ian, UK, 20 September 2014 14:12)
The republic of Illirida ( LMFAO ) thats right next to Narnia
(Grobar1, 19 September 2014 13:11)
Haahaha, grobart your a comedian! However, reality is it will be right on Serbia's border, along with the Republic of Kosova & the Republic of Albania! Watch & learn grobart, as the reemergence & a reunified Illyria yet again manifests itself right before your very eyes! And grobart, believe me when I tell you, the Last laugh will be on you!!!
(Rocky, 19 September 2014 14:02)
Funny how these Albanians keep dropping references to the USA, like if they keep kissing American butt like they always do, the American's will recognize this nonsense. Leave Macedonia, go back to that armpit country of yours, and go back to dealing drugs and harvesting organs, the only thing Albanians are apparently good at.
PS: Just a reminder that Kosovo is Serbia, regardless if that hideous red and black flag is planted in the ground.
(Mio, 19 September 2014 17:29)
I love it!!! some people just don't now when to quit. I hope the Muslim Albanians keep pushing their extreme agenda on the Christian's in southeast Europe. They will lose all their previous gains!
(robert1899, 19 September 2014 16:43)
The Slav Macedonian elite has since the fall of Yugoslavia maintained a very hostile relationship towards both Serbia and Greece. With Serbia, they recognized the illegitimate proclamation of independence by Pristina, and continue to harass and even arrest members of the Serbian Orthodox Church on false charges. With Greece it's even more serious. They don't have a real identity of their own, so they try to take Greek history and culture. I say try, because no sane person believes these people are descendants of Alexander the Great.
All of this while the Albanians are mounting to fully separate their communities from the Slav Macedonians. This republic b.s is nothing on its own, except a sign for what's coming.
Slav Macedonians need to stop travelling down this suicidal path of alienating their largest neighbors who also happen to be Orthodox Christian states. It would truly be in the best interest of these people to "remember" that actually, this land was a century ago a part of Serbia and even right before the final advancement of the Ottoman Empire into the Balkans, the city of Skoplje was capital to the short lived Serbian Empire. That is their truth history, not Alexander the Great. I believe if they don't use their democratic right to vote in a referendum to join Serbia, they will soon have to start learning Albanian because the Albs are not playing!!!
(Ari Gold, 19 September 2014 18:34)
With Serbia, they recognized the illegitimate proclamation of independence by Pristina
(Ari Gold, 19 September 2014 18:34)
They recognized the proclamation of independence by Pristina which was in accordance with international law. There is nothing wrong in recognizing something that is in accordance with international law.
----------
With Greece it's even more serious. They don't have a real identity of their own, so they try to take Greek history and culture. I say try, because no sane person believes these people are descendants of Alexander the Great.
(Ari Gold, 19 September 2014 18:34)
Instead of "serious", I would call it laughable that arguments like that are brought by Greece in the 21st century as if anybody cares about Alexander the Great!.
----------
All of this while the Albanians are mounting to fully separate their communities from the Slav Macedonians. This republic b.s is nothing on its own, except a sign for what's coming.
(Ari Gold, 19 September 2014 18:34)
this land was a century ago a part of Serbia and even right before the final advancement of the Ottoman Empire into the Balkans, the city of Skoplje was capital to the short lived Serbian Empire. That is their truth history, not Alexander the Great.
(Ari Gold, 19 September 2014 18:34)
Oh, please... Is this the start of another "cradle of Serbdom" argument? It sounds like some many place in the Balkans are the "cradle of Serbdom" except for... Serbia itself :)
(icj1, 21 September 2014 01:13)
The war that began in the name of national unification of Albanians into a single state has lost its mission and ended up as an uprising for respect of human rights. It's called treason because no Albanian would pick up a rifle for the sake of human rights. Albanians struggle for freedom and national unification with the motherland, Albania," said Sinani.
Comment -
Albania will come for macedonia though !.
Arn.Sweden.
(Arn.Sweden., 19 September 2014 16:38)
Leave Macedonia, go back to that armpit country of yours, and go back to dealing drugs and harvesting organs, the only thing Albanians are apparently good at.
(Mio, 19 September 2014 17:29)
Really? Didn't know that Albanians were that advanced in terms of medical facilities and surgeons.
----------
PS: Just a reminder that Kosovo is Serbia, regardless if that hideous red and black flag is planted in the ground.
(Mio, 19 September 2014 17:29)
Thanks mate, since it appears that people had forgotten about that - now that you said it, Kosovo became Serbia again... hurrah :)
(icj1, 21 September 2014 01:04)
Slav Macedonians need to stop travelling down this suicidal path of alienating their largest neighbors who also happen to be Orthodox Christian states. It would truly be in the best interest of these people to "remember" that actually, this land was a century ago a part of Serbia...
(Ari Gold, 19 September 2014 18:34)
Check any reputable history book, ( Noel Malcolm's: A Short History Of Kosovo ), a century ago Skopje was an Albanian speaking city. Even Trotsky, working as a journalist, said as much when he reported the atrocities taking place against the Albanians by the Serbs. Additionally, Edith Durham confirmed this monstrous act.
Ari, you may try as you might to distort history, but there is too much evidence to the contrary.
(True European, 20 September 2014 15:50)
Nevzat Halili declared the "Republic of Ilirida". Here is a fact about Halili, his political party the "Party for Democratic Prosperity" aka PDP won 0.03% of the vote in the 2014 election. I think that says a lot.
(Ian, UK, 19 September 2014 16:49)
And the article even says that this guy is a former leader of that party. I had no idea who he was but I do now after reading this article. Really wonder sometimes what goes in the mind of the B92 editors who choose what to put in these pages. The space taken by this article could have been used for some other article of surely higher value.
(Reader, 21 September 2014 16:14)
Nevzat Halili declared the "Republic of Ilirida". Here is a fact about Halili, his political party the "Party for Democratic Prosperity" aka PDP won 0.03% of the vote in the 2014 election. I think that says a lot.
(Ian, UK, 19 September 2014 16:49)
Congratulations, we evil slavs welcome your new political entity to the Balkan family of nations. we wish you all the best. :)
(Bulgar Of Ohrid, 19 September 2014 15:31)
But there is a difference with Kosovo. Declaring/ Proclaiming yourself as independent doesn't mean you're actually independent unless you have the means and capability of making yourself independent. When Kosovo became independent, Kosovo had an overwhelming backing for independence, the "Republic of Ilirida" and them fictional micronations don't. Kosovo already had a government with powers before becoming independent, Kosovo was capable of establishing new ministries such as foreign affairs and defence; the "Republic of Ilirida" cannot establish such ministries. UNMIK handed over its governing powers to the Kosovo Assembly and the International Steering Group supervised Kosovo's independence before it handed over its powers to the Kosovo Assembly in September 2012; the so-called "Republic of Ilirida" won't have and doesn't have the capability to have the independent powers which Kosovo has. The so-called "Republic of Ilirida" doesn't have the capability of establishing diplomatic relations with other countries, joining international organisations, or having representation on the world stage unlike Kosovo. This so-called "Republic of Ilirida" is a bad joke.
(Ian, UK, 20 September 2014 14:12)
Please stop it ! I disapprove Macedonian behavior in the region but please do not mix Alexander here. Those are two different questions.
Otherwise explain how the Greek minority could seize almost the world and where’s the evidence of the fast vaporized Empire ? Today the Greeks compose 0,3% of the mankind and they are divided for 4 different groups. But as I understood only continental Greeks composed the great army. If the Greek share was bigger only 1 part of them composed the army. In Asia they are seeking any evidence of the army but all in vain. No Alexandria towns , no genetic marks … only coins as Leonidas said. But we find their coins all over Russia so what ?
What I mean is if only Alexander and his army ever existed it could be only a Slaw army though Alexander could equally be a Slaw or a Greek. At least Slaws invaded Iran , Afghanistan and India many times and left there a lot of evidence. We can talk about it if you offer any original ( not copy or copy of a copy) ancient document or artifact proving that the Greek or Roman (the one in Italy) Empire had ever existed. Also tell me why there’s no info about Jerusalem of in 1700-1900 ? Tell me how can someone be a mathematic using Greek figures and who was Karl the Great to establish the European civilization ??? Who were his parents , when was he born , where lived and why Austria is still called Oster Reich ? Forget about the General Staff and chose any issue to discuss without panic.
(yes it's me, 20 September 2014 15:50)
I just looked through the title "Republic of Ilirida" declared in Macedonia” and I misunderstood it as if they refused from FYORM or Macedonia name ... But now that I looked through the article I still can see some basis for optimism. FYORM is one of the US Troy Horses in the region. Once they have missed a chance to stick the Serbs against the Albanians. Very soon they needed help that Serbs could render. And now I can see no Balkan country to help them while the US is too far and too busy in the two starting wars against Russia and against their own ISIS bandits.
Albanians are a comparatively big regional destructive power to threaten their neighbors. To my mind it must push the local states cooperate in safety issues. But it does not happen. Say Macedonia conflicts all the neighbors so the Albanians can afford undermining one country after another. They are Albanians no matter what passports they have in their pockets for the time being.
Anyways I am sorry for my early congrats !
(rote, 20 September 2014 09:53)
"Nevzat Halili declared the "Republic of Ilirida". Here is a fact about Halili, his political party the "Party for Democratic Prosperity" aka PDP won 0.03% of the vote in the 2014 election. I think that says a lot."
(Ian, UK, 19 September 2014 16:49)
So what? Every self-proclaimed group of idiots has the right to declare themselves independent. Remember, the ICJ ruled that way in case of Kosovo. You have some more of these fanatsy states alla round the world, for example "Freetown Christiania" in Denmark, the "Principality of Hutt River" in Australia, and some dozens more.
(Comm. Parrisson, 19 September 2014 17:26)
Who is going to pay for this new basket case? Not even the EU is going to touch this one. They are not going to get the same babysitting program that Kosovo is getting. The Albanians really must have the black markets completely under control in Macedonia.
(Paul, 20 September 2014 21:23)
I think the Macedonian diaspora are still fighting the old fights from the time they left the country - from before it was attacked by Albanians in the 2001 war. So that's why so many of them are still focused against Serbia and Greece. They left at a time propaganda was sponsored against Serbia to gear them up for "independence." And they are still in that phase and are ignoring the on-the-ground problems and threats by the Albanians.
(ida, 20 September 2014 04:46)