1. From Dwight's link to the survey:
    Sample
    Three-stage random sample, adult citizens of Serbia. N = 1054
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    Check it out. Some of the questions are quite fruity, as are the results! I'm not convinced by such a small sample size. The only thing it tells me It's that there are pissed off Serbs out there. Hardly news.
    (EU Dude, 8 February 2017 09:41)


    Dude,
    There are pissed off people the world over, the question is: why and what are you going to do about it. Blaming others and feeling sorry for yourself is not going to solve your problem.
    (Common Sense Is Not So Common, 13 February 2017 05:44)

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  2. Plus, after Tito's death, there were all sorts of troubles, including many pushed by the west (especially Albanian lobbyist Bob Dole, who was a very powerful Senator). Bob Dole pushed through resolutions designed to cause problems in Yugoslavia and set it up for the break up.
    (ida, 8 February 2017 00:44)

    Ida,
    You seem oblivious to the fact that Milosevic had a lot to do with why Serbia is in such a sorry state. Serbian self pity and inat also have much to do with their misery.
    (Common Sense Is Not So Common, 13 February 2017 05:25)

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  3. If Trump believed the polls he would've given up long ago.
    (Peggy, 9 February 2017 01:21)

    Why would have he given up? To make a certain Peggy happy?!
    (icj1, 11 February 2017 01:47)

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  4. PS:

    Despite best efforts, poor countries remain mostly poor (99% of the time).

    The exception is:

    - discovery of oil or some newly desired resource (but even then, poor countries lack capital and rely on capitalists -- so they can only achieve Middle class.

    - a change in geo-strategic importance (but even then geo-strategic significance lasts but a while and then reverts back).
    (factman, 9 February 2017 21:28)

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  5. Peggy

    I agree you. Stalin once formulated it as НЕ ВАЖНО, КАК ПРОГОЛОСУЮТ - ВАЖНО, КАК ПОСЧИТАЮТ ГОЛОСА. One day I trust Vucic and the other I don't ... But sooner or later the moment of true will come. I can't forget how easily the US let the state power pass from Boris ... But then again I was surprised how good he spoke Russian in Minks. He almost had no accent the Serbs always have when they speack Russian. Because they keep on speaking a bit Serbian while Vucic spoke very well. Let's see the developments because I fail to understand some of the latest activities of this government. Maybe it's all because of the national Serbian game called "early elections"?
    (rote, 9 February 2017 20:02)

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  6. Besides all aspects (finance, currency, european standard laws) for which any Serbian could agree or not about EU entry, I want to point out that culturally and historically Serbia is pure Europe. I am Italian and I feel closer to a Serbian than an Estonian nor Irish nor Danish (part of EU) (I visited Serbia many times)
    (Francesco, 9 February 2017 17:43)

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  7. The EU is in a process of dissolution.

    The EU is not in a process of accumulation.

    The south of Europe is poor and lives beyond its means. They are unable to save or invest and tend to accumulate debt they cannot pay back.

    The northern EU countries are better off and strive to keep debt in control. They tend to save or invest. Their people no longer want to send Euros to debtor nations.

    The EU will soon become a club with 3 levels (just like in life).

    Rich Class
    Middle Class
    Poor Class

    Those in the poor or middle class can say they are in the EU, but it won't feel like it.

    Smart countries will choose to go an independent route
    (factman, 9 February 2017 03:56)

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  8. Those are surrealistic figures.
    If they are true then Serbia is a suiside club.
    Hope not.
    (rote, 7 February 2017 19:40
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    It's obviously not true. If Trump believed the polls he would've given up long ago.
    Polls can be manipulated so easily. Survey they right demographic and you will have the result you want or just plain lie. Who verifies the polls?
    This is designed to push EU membership through without having a riot because they hope citizens are going to be fooled by it.
    The only true poll is a referendum or an election.
    (Peggy, 9 February 2017 01:21)

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  9. Tell that to Chinese President that stayed for 3 days , to Joe Biden to beging Serbia to join NATO , and the rest of the list of diplomates that visited Serbia in last year , Hahaha.
    Must be lonely in Tirana ))
    Serbia is the centre of Europe,not universe 😀😀😉
    (sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia


    O my God! Hahaaa…aa waaaawwwwaaaaaaaawaaaaaa...

    The world is talking about aliens, about other world dimensions and Serbs with 300 € salary think they are the center of Europe.
    Eeeeooo.. the Chinese president stayed 3 days in Serbia. Uuuuu!
    They are beging Serbia...uuuu!
    Serbia the center of Europe...uuuu!
    Are you so much ignorants in Serbia and you are their king.
    Hahaaaaa sorry you really make me laugh, but please don't stop keep writing. Hahaaaawwawawawahahaaa!
    (Joni, 8 February 2017 22:46)

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  10. Both Romania and Bulgaria have forsaken hundreds of millions of euros in structural funds and the like because those in power can be bothered to hire competent persons to a) put a plan together; b) give a concrete & verifiable timeline; c) guarantee that such plans would be complete. It's simply amazing. Governments of both countries have consistently done a massive disservice to their own citizens because they cannot simply pocket the EU money.

    If I remember correctly, the rule is that if it unspent or costed through an agreed plan, the money stays in Brussels. In a little less than three years, this money is gone, save for Brussels various subsidies for poor regions of Europe.
    (EU Dude, 8 February 2017 13:04)

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  11. Eu say to us we the Romanians that our projects are always not good and they do not give money to us , only the elite take the money and steal the money without use them and that if they take !
    (adrian_bucharest, 8 February 2017 11:28)

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  12. Thankfully the better half don't!
    (Milija Bulatovic, 8 February 2017 10:15)

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  13. From Dwight's link to the survey:
    Sample
    Three-stage random sample, adult citizens of Serbia. N = 1054
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    Check it out. Some of the questions are quite fruity, as are the results! I'm not convinced by such a small sample size. The only thing it tells me It's that there are pissed off Serbs out there. Hardly news.
    (EU Dude, 8 February 2017 09:41)

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  14. People I am an American who visits Serbia 8 times a year. This is not true every Serbian I have talked to wants nothing with NATO or the EU they just want to be left alone to live free. They are being forced to surrender all their land by PM Vucic do not believe anything else.
    (Danny, 8 February 2017 04:14)

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  15. Eyes,
    Use a little common sense, if the Serbs were capable of what you claim they are, Serbia would be the Swizterland of Eastern Europe, but they are not. Q.E.D.
    (Common Sense Is Not So Common, 7 February 2017 15:31)
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    Your patronising sarcasm is unworthy of response just so you know that's why you ain't getting the extensive reply to that inane xenophobic comment you couldn't resist making.As for your QED finale let's see methinks you might have to get used to the taste of humble pie.Try to keep your fingers off the keyboard you appear to have nothing constructive to contribute.
    (Eyes Right, 8 February 2017 01:04)

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  16. There would be no benefit of joining the EU. The people who think that everything would somehow magically turn fantastic immediately upon joining the EU are naive at best.
    (Pera, 8 February 2017 00:56)

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  17. "While what you say of Serbs in the US, Canada, Germany, Uk, etc... as being successful in their businesses and careers what you are missing is that they are working and are being educated in another system."

    Actually you'd be surprised at the number of Serbs who were educated in Serbia and THEN go abroad. The Serbs educated in Serbia, per capita, tend to accomplish more than those educated in the west.
    The problem is the corrupt and traitorous government Serbia has (a large part the fault of the west which has always wanted to keep Serbia down and week), as well as the historical lack of access to western markets, so its products didn't develop.
    I am including communism in this as it was the British and the U.S. which installed Tito into Yugoslavia. They gave a huge amount of weapons and supplies to Tito and the Partisans, plus they had advisers working for them and with them.
    Serbia's economy is still saddled by what happened under decades of communist - including many Serbian industries being dismantled and moved to Slovenia, Croatia, BiH, etc. during Tito's time.
    Plus, after Tito's death, there were all sorts of troubles, including many pushed by the west (especially Albanian lobbyist Bob Dole, who was a very powerful Senator). Bob Dole pushed through resolutions designed to cause problems in Yugoslavia and set it up for the break up.
    (ida, 8 February 2017 00:44)

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  18. So why do they need the EU? They who have lived in the former YU and now in their individual statelets are more than capable of making just laws,a favourable market for businesses to thrive in and still maintain their identity. Why do they need some unelected windbags with their snouts in the EU trough to tell them how it's done.

    (Eyes wide open, 7 February 2017 14:47)

    ___…__

    You seem to be missing something very important.
    While what you say of Serbs in the US, Canada, Germany, Uk, etc... as being successful in their businesses and careers what you are missing is that they are working and are being educated in another system. The same Serb could open us a business in the US, UK, Canada and Serbia and the success of the business will be very different between the ones in the West and the one in Serbia because of the laws, regulation, corruption and taxes in each country.
    Much of Eastern Europe has to deal with the scars and mentality left over from the communist era. Throw in nationalism and the talk of wars and you can see why Serbia has along way to go before someone can be equally successful there as in the west.
    (Mark.W, 7 February 2017 22:27)

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  19. In the balkans your a joke and nothing else. No one cares about you(besides your Russian masters)Serbia is an irrelevant in every way possible. Your not the center of Universe. Sorry. NEXT!
    (Francis, 7 February 2017 18:

    Tell that to Chinese President that stayed for 3 days , to Joe Biden to beging Serbia to join NATO , and the rest of the list of diplomates that visited Serbia in last year , Hahaha.
    Must be lonely in Tirana ))
    Serbia is the centre of Europe,not universe 😀😀😉
    (sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 7 February 2017 19:53)

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  20. Do you have the full details of your poll?
    (Dwight, 7 February 2017 16:

    Yes to the people ,I talk to in Jagodina , Belgrade ,Nis ,Paracin , Krusevac , Kragujevac and Krajevo.
    I mean at of more than 10,000 people ,I asked in the last 2 years,only a few are happy to join EU,put everyone likes the scrapes (money) EU gives Serbia.
    Unless you live in Serbia ,and communicate with the population ,it is a different picture living in the West and reading a newspaper about a country.
    (sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 7 February 2017 19:44)

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  21. Those are surrealistic figures.
    If they are true then Serbia is a suiside club.
    Hope not.
    (rote, 7 February 2017 19:40)

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  22. This is a fake news, this is a fabrication of Media mass news, if this story is correct i wish good luck to Serbia to finish in the cemetery. Or Serbians are mad or Serbians are uncounscious people. For me is very very funny.Already Serbia is very very poor country with very high leaving cost, if they enter in Europe they will become poorer and the leaving coast multiplied by 2.
    Already the leaving coast in Serbia is the thank's to Dominique Strauss Khan, who was employed by the Serbian government to reajust the country for the account of IMF.
    I am still laughing in reading this article. Serbians you have only your eyes to cry, if you make a small mistake.
    (Mounir Assi, 7 February 2017 19:25)

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  23. In the balkans your a joke and nothing else. No one cares about you(besides your Russian masters)Serbia is an irrelevant in every way possible. Your not the center of Universe. Sorry. NEXT!
    (Francis, 7 February 2017 18:30)

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  24. @ Francis ...typical analbanian who is afriad to use his own name I hate to break it to you but in the Balkan's we are!
    (cetnik1, 7 February 2017 16:52)

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  25. It is a fake story
    (sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 7 February 2017 15:31)

    Hi Sasa,
    You can find the details of the poll here:
    [link]

    Do you have the full details of your poll?
    (Dwight, 7 February 2017 16:50)

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  26. sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia

    Please.......just because some invests in your pathetic country doesn´t mean you will become super rich. Serbia is badly developed country, and one of the poorest if you compare to the rest of Europe. Even Eastern european states like Romania and Bulgaria who are dirt poor are a million times better than serbia. Serbia have the same living standards as Pakistan. And yet you think you are some kind of a superpower. Those investments will dissappear because corruption will eat it up. Come back to reality please. It will take Serbia 100 years to aichive the same living standards as Sweden or Austria. Serbia is a nothing. A russian puppet and thats it!
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  27. So why do they(Serbia) need the EU? They who have lived in the former YU and now in their individual statelets are more than capable of making just laws,a favourable market for businesses to thrive in and still maintain their identity. Why do they need some unelected windbags with their snouts in the EU trough to tell them how it's done.
    (Eyes wide open, 7 February 2017 14:47

    Eyes,
    Use a little common sense, if the Serbs were capable of what you claim they are, Serbia would be the Swizterland of Eastern Europe, but they are not. Q.E.D.
    (Common Sense Is Not So Common, 7 February 2017 15:31)

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  28. I ex westerner ,now have been living for more than 3 years in Serbia ,and speak to a lot to the people and laugh at this story.
    Everyone wants EU money and investments ,but not to join for a long time . Serbs have troubles with foreigners telling them what to do in their country ))
    It is a fake story .
    20℅ want to join EU ,
    20℅ want to join Russia,
    60℅ want to be neutral and like how things are at present ,with investment from Russia ,China ,UAE , Turkey ,EU ,USA ,Japan ,Iran , and Qatar ,Kuwait ,Saudi money to come . India as well looking to invest.
    Why is there need for change ?
    Things are moving well ,and improving .
    (sasa.p from near Jagodina, Serbia, 7 February 2017 15:31)

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  29. Whether this is fake news or not is irrelevant in my view.I travel widely and live in the diaspora as part of that first generation of Serbs born outside the former YU.My parents were evicted by that tyrant Tito.Having been to the USA,Canada,France,UK,Switzerland,Austria and many other countries where large Serb diaspora communities live and work it seems to me that Serbians generally are well-educated, resourceful, entrepreneurial,honest in the main and hard-working. So why do they need the EU? They who have lived in the former YU and now in their individual statelets are more than capable of making just laws,a favourable market for businesses to thrive in and still maintain their identity. Why do they need some unelected windbags with their snouts in the EU trough to tell them how it's done. The reality is they don't and it's the EU that needs Serbia far more than Serbia needs the EU. Think on brothers and sisters hang on to what you've got because if you let these parasites in you'll struggle to rid yourselves of them.
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  30. Oh come on! What is the SAMPLE - i.e. the actual number of people polled? % can mean anything. Remember, lies, damned lies and statistics - vis Brexit/Trump.

    In other news, Belgium & Serbian police have signed a cooperation agreement.
    (EU Dude, 7 February 2017 14:30)

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  31. More fake news. They have been beating this same old drum for over a decade now.
    (sj, 7 February 2017 13:51)

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  32. I have no idea if this story is based on fact or is merely fake news. Either way, it is undoubtedly true that the vast majority of Serbs have no idea what the EU will bring them. Will it make them as rich as the Germans or as poor as the Greeks? I have my opinion on this question, but all Serbs get from their leaders is the mantra that there is no alternative to EU membership. Serbs need a proper debate on the EU. They need to know what's in it for them.
    (Michael Thomas, 7 February 2017 12:44)

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  33. How can nearly 1 in 10 people not understand the question??
    (Andy UK, 7 February 2017 09:45)

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