BELGRADE -- Serbia is on Tuesday marking the 16th anniversary since the beginning of NATO's air war against the country, then a part of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.
BELGRADE -- Serbia is on Tuesday marking the 16th anniversary since the beginning of NATO's air war against the country, then a part of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.
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NATO caused heavy damage to Serbia's infrastructure, economy, schools, health institutions, media outlets, monuments of culture.
The western military alliance made the decision to attack Serbia without the approval of the UN Security Council, which represented a precedent.
The order was given to its then commander, U.S. General Wesley Clark by then NATO Secretary General Javier Solana.
Clark later wrote in his book entitled "Modern Warfare" that the planning of the war was already under way in mid-June in 1998 and was completed in August of that year.
Serbia came under attack as the culprit for "the humanitarian catastrophe in Kosovo and the failure of negotiations in Rambouillet, Paris on the future status of the province."
The Paris conference presented Serbia with the proposal to have foreign troops deployed in its territory, which was rejected. The decision not to accept foreign troops was confirmed by the Serbian Assembly, and on March 24, 1999 NATO launched its attacks.
19 countries took part in the operation, using ships in the Adriatic Sea, four air bases in Italy, supported by strategic operators who took off from bases in western Europe.
According to estimates of the Serbian government at least 2,500 people were killed (according to some sources, the total number of fatalities was almost 4,000), while more than 12,500 were injured.
The recently published official data of the Ministry of Defense of Serbia speaks about 1,008 soldiers and policemen killed, while unofficial data shows that 6,000 civilians, including 2,700 children, suffered various degrees of injuries.
The total damage done to the country's economy and infrastructure was estimated at the time at USD 100 billion.
NATO military losses in manpower and technology have never been disclosed.
The Museum of Aviation in Belgrade displays parts of the destroyed F-117 and F-16 aircraft, UAVs, and cruise missiles.
Almost all cities in Serbia came under attack several times during the war that lasted 11 weeks.
The bombing destroyed and damaged 25,000 housing units, 470 km of roads and 595 kilometers of railways.
The attacks also damaged 14 airports, 19 hospitals, 20 health centers, 18 kindergartens, 69 schools, 176 cultural monuments and 44 bridges, while 38 were destroyed.
During the aggression NATO carried out 2,300 air strikes on 995 facilities across the country, while 1,150 combat aircraft launched nearly 420,000 missiles.
NATO also launched 1,300 cruise missiles, dropped over 37,000 cluster bombs, which killed some 200 people and wounded hundreds, and used prohibited ammunition with depleted uranium.
A third of the power capacity of the country was destroyed, two oil refineries, in Pančevo and Novi Sad bombed, while NATO forces used the opportunity to for the first deploy the so-called graphite bombs to disable the power system.
After several attempts to end the war by diplomatic means, the bombing ended with the signing of the Military Technical Agreement in Kumanovo on June 9, 1999, after which the Yugoslav Army (VJ) and Serbian police (MUP) started withdrawing from Kosovo and Metohija.
A day later, the UN Security Council adopted Resolution 1244, and some 37,200 NATO-led KFOR troops from 36 countries were deployed in the province with the task of keeping the peace, security, and ensuring the return of refugees until the widest degree of autonomy was defined for the territory.
Commemorative gatherings
A series of commemorative gatherings will be held in Serbia today to mark the anniversary of the start of NATO's war against Serbia.
Top state officials, including the prime minister and the president, will honor the victims.
Wreaths and flowers will be placed at memorials sites by representatives of the army, local authorities, various associations, and political parties.
(icj1, 29 March 2015 23:17) , it has achieved formal status for almost 110 countries... You might disagree, but who cares what you have to say :)
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Great news!! If this is all KiM needs, then KiM should move on with providing some safety and prosperity to its impoverished population.
I assume that the majority of the planet's population which include major population centers such as China and India and close to 100 hundred other countries who have given no diplomatic recognition is as irrelevant to you as the geographic fact (source: UN map of the World) that KiM is an integral part of of Serbia's sovereign territory. Great news! Who cares! Please call Brussels and inform them immediately there is no need for any more charades and "negotiations" and that KiM does not care what Serbia and others think. icj1 has solved the problem. Yes, who cares!
Please proceed with improving the lives of the innocent and suffering population of KiM. I bet that even fewer people of these lands care about your country count and many more are worried about feeding themselves and raising their families.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 31 March 2015 09:34)
Dont try to act that you know the meaing of that word and no, kosovo has never ever been albanian land and never will be. One just has to take a look at the word kosovo, a serbian word, to understand it. Now if it was albanian dont you think it would have an albanian name and not a serbian one? Kos= Blackbird in serbian, Kosovo= The blackbird´s, Kosovo Polje= Field of the blackbird.
(Daniel, 26 March 2015 00:05)
Oh, OK so a territory's ownership can be determined by just looking at its name. Great, so that territory that today is called Kosovo can easily become Albanian tomorrow; all it takes is its residents deciding to change its name to an Albanian name hahaha
(icj1, 29 March 2015 23:21)
I'm sorry disappoint you Daniel.
G.Translate can't help you to much in plural or in words coupling.
Word for word have that meaning in Albanian.
Don't belive, ask somebody who speak Albanian, there will be someone who speak Albanian in Serbia. There are to many other but i have no time right now to mention.
By the way, you will find also an Ilirian ( albanian ) word that they refer to Kosovo.
(Joni, 27 March 2015 13:42)
A+thena" city - "the meaning" city ( in Albanian )
"Mace+donia" - Cat Lovers :P( in Albanan )
"Joni+an" sea - Ours Sea ( in Albanian ) e.t.c. ....
e.t.c.....
So what????
(Joni, 26 March 2015 11:29)
The difference is that you have to change the words for them to have a meaning in albanian while kosovo is a serbian word just as it is.
(Daniel, 27 March 2015 12:25)
no retort to the article eh sj? i'm going for a moment to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that your comprehension skills are above that of a 6 year old, and presume that you understand what HIGHEST in EUROPE means. to be fair to you, it does not say cancer rates but mortality FROM cancer, still one wonders, given your earlier claims that Kosovo suffer more than any other place in Europe from that awful predicament actually means in the context of that article. i should tell you, i take no pleasure in Serbia topping this chart, cancer is a horrible thing
(Nikolle, 26 March 2015 12:49)
Here you go sj, read it and weep
(Nikolle, 25 March 2015 23:27)
Is it any wonder NATO killed so many Albos during the bombing LOL?
Now Serbia claims it has an increase in cancers due to NATO bombing (and that would be correct), but this has not occurred in the paradise of Kosova where the west dropped most of the depleted uranium. With this kind of logic Albos are truly a waste of space.
(sj, 26 March 2015 12:32)
(Daniel, 26 March 2015 00:05)
I undestand:
"A+thena" city - "the meaning" city ( in Albanian )
"Mace+donia" - Cat Lovers :P( in Albanan )
"Joni+an" sea - Ours Sea ( in Albanian ) e.t.c. ....
e.t.c.....
So what????
(Joni, 26 March 2015 11:29)
(Reader, 25 March 2015 18:56) LOL, nobody ever said that Kosovo attained quasi-Utopian status in 2008. Just you. I like how you make up a non-existent claim to only fight with it. Exactly like Don Quixote and his windmills :).
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Dear Reader,
My comment, in part, was a sarcastic response to a desperate plea for prosperity by Ilir.
Yes, KiM after the NATO bombing did not prosper and has achieved no formal status.
Sadly, no LOL for us to offer poor Ilir and his plea of a "grant" for prosperity... just the dismal facts.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 26 March 2015 10:59)
Sorry my "ignorance" sir, but you have already the answer.....
(Joni, 25 March 2015 15:48)"
Dont try to act that you know the meaing of that word and no, kosovo has never ever been albanian land and never will be. One just has to take a look at the word kosovo, a serbian word, to understand it. Now if it was albanian dont you think it would have an albanian name and not a serbian one? Kos= Blackbird in serbian, Kosovo= The blackbird´s, Kosovo Polje= Field of the blackbird.
(Daniel, 26 March 2015 00:05)
pointless tangents continued eh sj? you're now venturing into conspiracy territory with statements like this: "ll information of this type has to be approved by western authorities prior to release plus you have to have people collecting that information." you made a claim with you asserted was fact, that Kosovo has the highest cancer rates in Europe. now tell me, can you verify your claims or not? if you can, post it here and you will have shown me up
(Nikolle, 25 March 2015 11:57)
Don’t get a headache thinking about it too much but this comes from an earlier attachment:
“A confidential preliminary UN report leaked in May 1999, as the bombing continued, did not mince words: "This type of ammunition is nuclear waste, and its use is very dangerous and harmful," it said. After NATO released its figures, the UN recommended that "measures should be taken to prevent access." For Kosovars, like Iraqis, such warnings may be too late.”
No other reports were ever prepared or issued and Pristina never raised that subject.
(sj, 25 March 2015 22:36)
Odd? NATO apologists have said that KiM achieved prosperity after the bombing and attained quasi-Utopian status in 2008. Why do you now ask for a grant of prosperity? And who pray tell are you now demanding to "grant" this prosperity?
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 15:07)
LOL, nobody ever said that Kosovo attained quasi-Utopian status in 2008. Just you. I like how you make up a non-existent claim to only fight with it. Exactly like Don Quixote and his windmills :).
(Reader, 25 March 2015 18:56)
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 23:31)
Dude, you have no idea how stupid you seem like with these propaganda and provokacije words! These are words that only you and your brothers Russians use. If you might think that the whole world is Russia and Serbia, then you can start looking for a geography course as soon as possible because your knowledge is disgraceful !
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Dear Ilir,
Please go back and read my posts carefully, as you've confused me with another individual. My (Amnesty Yugoslavia) writings make no reference to Serbs or Russians, or any other ethnic group for that matter. The only descriptor associated with the victims in my comment was "innocent".
My siblings are not Russian. However, as an offspring from a mixed marriage, I do have siblings, cousins and relatives with colorful heterogeneous backgrounds.
I obtained excellent grades in my studies of World Geography. I am quite familiar with the UN map of the world and the territories of both Serbia and Russia.
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You may wish to acquaint yourself with the facts on this map as you appear to be unnecessarily confused and frustrated.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 25 March 2015 17:56)
Why didn't Usa and Russia entered in to conflict at the start of the war,like they did for Ukraine last year.There would be less civil casualties and less war crimes on civilians.EU was to inferior and let them to kill each other for 5 years.I hope so EU and world learned a lesson from that conflict.If world doesn't pay a big attention to chauvinists,they could pull the civilians in to civil war again.Where is poverty,unemployment,corruption,there is the best environment for chauvinists to start their wars in every country.
(Peace, 25 March 2015 14:34)
@ Dusan,
Please bring any source , I mean any sources, that says that Albanians come or immigrated to the "Serbian place called Kosovo".
On the other hand, I can bring you a million sources that say that Serbian came to this place that you call Kosovo.
(delon, 25 March 2015 14:32)
Was the motto that covered the world in 1999!
Great job Nato. Milosevic and all other like him deserved to die, and more.
(JustAnotherKosovar, 25 March 2015 12:44)
pointless tangents continued eh sj? you're now venturing into conspiracy territory with statements like this: "ll information of this type has to be approved by western authorities prior to release plus you have to have people collecting that information." you made a claim with you asserted was fact, that Kosovo has the highest cancer rates in Europe. now tell me, can you verify your claims or not? if you can, post it here and you will have shown me up
(Nikolle, 25 March 2015 11:57)
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 23:33)
As I said before, now pay attention, the data that you refer to is provided by countries voluntarily and since Pristina does not provide it, it does not exist. All information of this type has to be approved by western authorities prior to release plus you have to have people collecting that information. Since no money is allocated for this purpose no one knows the real figures.
“instead of going on pointless tangents about Iraq” Iraq and Kosovo were both bombed using depleted uranium – see the connection picture now or are you that stupid? No? Well since people in Iraq are suffering with various problems due to depleted uranium the conclusion is so do the people in Kosovo
(sj, 25 March 2015 11:36)
Well said Turbinator the truth is known by all. How they wish to cover it up is fairly shameful but nothing better is to be expected.
(SJ4, 25 March 2015 11:26)
So your statement is your assumption and not a fact. Simple as that.
(SJSJSJSJ, 25 March 2015 09:11)
Lets look at that assumption. In Iraq people suffer high rates of various cancers and large numbers of children have terrible birth defects and pre being freed from tyranny these numbers were low, but Kosovo does not suffer from those affects because its not in an official report. And yet every article on that subject points to the Iraqi direction.
Medical experts from western countries have all said that what happens in Iraq happens in all countries which have depleted uranium. As I said before maybe its the shield of freedom and democracy that protects the Kosovars.
(sj, 25 March 2015 11:24)
"I agree with you and retract my posting as I see the error of my ways. To all here please note while depleted uranium is causing terrible health problems in Iraq this never occurs in Kosova because its shielded by a wall of freedom and democracy. Or is perhaps all this is due to tight control of information by the west.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:31) "
So your statement is your assumption and not a fact. Simple as that.
(SJSJSJSJ, 25 March 2015 09:11)
"BUT, closing universities, not letting people speak their language, discriminating everyone just because we were Albanians...killing more than 15000 CIVILIANS, destroying 80% of the houses..."
"Milosevic was SICK ! It's not that we hated Serbs until that time when he started..."
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 15:38)
Wow - to whom are you lying to? Serbs, foreigners - or yourself?
1. I have no doubt that atrocities were committed by Serbs in Kosovo (and in Bosnia) - but nowhere near as bad as portrayed in the west (and by you) - a lot of it is just propaganda. Anyway I hope the perps were/will be punished.
2. You (Albanians) did not hate Serbs? What about all the ethnic cleansing, all the attacks during the '70s and '80s? Why did Milosevic clamp down on your freedoms? Because he didn't like you? NO, because you abused your freedom! You were using state sponsored infrastructure, education and media (all in Albanian language which we do not understand) for campaign against Serbs, Serbia, and its sovereignty. You were Albanians living in Serbia - but working against it and its people in order to take that territory (Kosovo) for yourselves - you became 90% majority through mass immigration and VERY high natality rate, while actively pushing Serbs out of already very poor region. I have no doubt this was an orchestrated campaign by Albania.
EVERY country in the world would do what Serbia did - do you think that USA will give Texas to Mexico some day?? I think not!
(TurboNator, 25 March 2015 08:55)
I agree with you and retract my posting as I see the error of my ways.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:31)
Np mate... that's a normal occurrence :)
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To all here please note while depleted uranium is causing terrible health problems in Iraq this never occurs in Kosova because its shielded by a wall of freedom and democracy.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:31)
Evidence please that this never occurs in Kosova and that Kosova is shielded by a wall of freedom and democracy.
(icj1, 25 March 2015 02:23)
Easy to prove me wrong sj, just post the data here and you'll be vindicated. So instead of going on pointless tangents about Iraq and whatever else, post the info here and you'll have validated your claims. But I bet my right arm and left leg that you have nothing
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 23:33)
Shame for western politics and nato. USA wanted resaurces from Serbia and Kosovo has plenty of them. If Albanians realy think that USA will help them, maybe they already should thank them for massive uranium.
Mesaage for the peoples from Kosovo, if you dont like Serbia, why did you came on the Serbian ground called Kosovo ?
This is ridicilous
(Dusan Silni, 24 March 2015 23:32)
Dude, you have no idea how stupid you seem like with these propaganda and provokacije words! These are words that only you and your brothers Russians use. If you might think that the whole world is Russia and Serbia, then you can start looking for a geography course as soon as possible because your knowledge is disgraceful !
I'm just pointing out what really happened in the war ! It's not my fault that your media brainwashes you and you still have the Milosevic ideas in your minds ! It's really sad that even though you know what he has done you still support his ideology of genocide and ethnic cleansing. Best regards from Republic of Kosova. (Provokacije ! LOL)
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 23:31)
How long will it take before the Internet bumps it up to 20,000?
(Balkan Anthropologist, 24 March 2015 18:37)
Give it another 5 years Arlington national Cemetery will look like a dot on a map when comparing with the Albanian deaths in Kosovo. Like a good fishing story, it gets bigger and bigger with the telling.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:34)
you can do better than that sj. if I'm wrong I'm wrong, all you have to do to prove me wrong is corroborate your claims by citing data for Europe & Kosovo and compare the figures. that's it, so be my guest and prove me wrong
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 14:29)
I agree with you and retract my posting as I see the error of my ways. To all here please note while depleted uranium is causing terrible health problems in Iraq this never occurs in Kosova because its shielded by a wall of freedom and democracy. Or is perhaps all this is due to tight control of information by the west.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:31)
Interesting that it isn't on this list. You have a link to show that or are you just guessing?
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(SJSJSJSJ, 24 March 2015 13:54)
What’s so surprising about not being on “this list?” If no data is submitted then there is no data to include in a report. All of the information that is in that report is provided voluntarily by individual countries. Kosovo is controlled by the west so very little comes out that they do not allow.
Despite the Iraqi government sending all the information its mainly ignored by the west and rarely mentioned in the media – when was the last time you read about this in your local paper? However, the medical profession totally accepts that Iraqis are suffering from the depleted uranium.
You have NATO soldiers who served in Kosovo that claim to be suffering diseases caused by depleted uranium and authorities denying there is a link simply because it would open a “pandoras box” to compensation.
Perhaps you want to claim that depleted uranium causes all the illnesses and deformed children in Iraq, but that does not occur simply because Kosovo is in Europe. When you add 2+2 it always equals 4 not 74.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:24)
How long will it take before the Internet bumps it up to 20,000?
(Balkan Anthropologist, 24 March 2015 18:37)
No one will ever know the true numbers, but does it really matter if you killed 100, 1000, 10,000 or even 100,000. It was brutal, it was senseless and it happened purely because you just did not like them, And it gave you some sick pleasure.
(Really?, 24 March 2015 20:55)
Shout louder and shake your fist harder when making these ridiculously bombastic statements. The Internet comment section is a large place.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 24 March 2015 18:33)
No need to shout, God heard the pleas and felt the tears of those you and your fellow countrymen murdered, raped, maimed, brutalized. You should attempt to live as long as you can in this life as the next one will not be as comfortable!
You CAN escape the justice of man, there is NO escape from the justice of GOD.
(think again, 24 March 2015 20:51)
killing more than 15000 CIVILIANS,
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 15:38)
Since when has the number been inflated to 15,000? A few weeks ago I heard it was exaggerated to 12,000 up from the original 10. How did 5,000 more Albanians mysteriously die in the last month and a half from a conflict that took place more that 15 years ago?
How long will it take before the Internet bumps it up to 20,000?
(Balkan Anthropologist, 24 March 2015 18:37)
The cruelty and injustice you forced upon the Albanian people in Kosovo shall be repaid a thousand times over when judgement day arrives.
(think again, 24 March 2015 13:22)
Shout louder and shake your fist harder when making these ridiculously bombastic statements. The Internet comment section is a large place.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 24 March 2015 18:33)
dear all, i think that any comment will be too much. from both sides people suffered and i agree. one thing was confusing. history. by the way, we all have to forget, and to show to each other respect and look in the future.I am from Serbia but I like many other people think that this all bad things was created by politicians, not by common people.
Peace brothers and live our short lives with love and happines.
(robert, 24 March 2015 18:27)
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 15:38) closing universities, not letting people speak their language, discriminating everyone just because we were Albanians, and latter on killing innocent civilians, raping young and old women, killing more than 15000 CIVILIANS, destroying 80% of the houses, stealing everything that was inside the houses, sending people away from their homes, what do you call that?
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Everyone, except NATO apologists, call it: propaganda.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 16:29)
Do you guys in Serbia REALLY know what happened in Kosova during the war? Believe me or not, even though I am an Albanian, and I love my country of course, but if there were no massacres and genocide in Kosovo by Milosevic's forces, I might have end up saying that Serbia was just defending itself and the sovereignty . BUT*, closing universities, not letting people speak their language, discriminating everyone just because we were Albanians, and latter on killing innocent civilians, raping young and old women, killing more than 15000 CIVILIANS, destroying 80% of the houses, stealing everything that was inside the houses, sending people away from their homes, what do you call that? Just be realistic and tell me how do you call that ! And believe me, they are all facts that really happened in the war, and I was/am personally affected by those crimes and I am still here in a Serbian website, debating with a serb, asking for peace and prosperity ! Milosevic was SICK ! It's not that we hated serbs until that time when he started doing that horror. I know many people who have very good memories from the time with TITO, you know why..? Because Tito was not SICK, and he was a strong man who made Albanians, Serbs, Croats, Bosnians live together ! That seems like a dream right now. Please make some research, do not be biased, and see what Milosevic did! NATO did the right thing, and Serbia paid the price. Your politicians lost Kosovo. PEACE!
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 15:38)
Apparently, B92's moderator(s) encourage inter-commentator and inter-ethnic insults and censor germane comments that constructively criticize B92 articles. Such a policy accurately reflects the primitive state of Balkan "journalism". B92, shame on you.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 15:25)
"16 years since demonic murderers went on murder / destruction spree against serbs. It was unbelievable genocide. We will never forgive nor forget.
(Ratko, 24 March 2015 14:30)"
You might want to look up genocide in the dictionary or better yet, cross the Drina into eastern Bosnia and look for yourself what real genocide is.
(LK`, 24 March 2015 15:17)
"Serbia should follow the example is Greece is setting and demanding war reparations for Western aggression. In Serbia's case, they should ask for reparations from Germany for WWII and from the leading NATO countries for NATO aggression on Serbia. It's not even a matter of actually expecting to receive it. Serbia has an obligation to remind NATO that it committed aggression on a small country.
Only the strongest military alliance in the world could physically remove Serbian institutions from Kosovo-Metohija, sure as hell no KLA rats who dug themselves holes to hide until NATO came to help. Every Albanian extremist that comments on here knows in their hearts that they could not, and cannot win in a military conflict against Serbia without NATO acting as their air force.
(Ari Gold, 24 March 2015 11:44)"
Does Serbia also have an obligation to remind itself about the aggression it created in two smaller countries Bosnia and Croatia or does the same logic not apply to Serbia? It seems Serbia can and has never done anything wrong to nationalists like yourself.
(LK, 24 March 2015 15:14)
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 13:52) say sorry to us, pay for the war damages, recognize us, and we will all move on as a region. That's the only solution, and the prosperity of our 2 countries will be for granted!
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Odd? NATO apologists have said that KiM achieved prosperity after the bombing and attained quasi-Utopian status in 2008. Why do you now ask for a grant of prosperity? And who pray tell are you now demanding to "grant" this prosperity?
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 15:07)
(think again, 24 March 2015 13:22) The cruelty and injustice you forced upon the Albanian people in Kosovo shall be repaid a thousand times over when judgement day arrives.
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You should keep on trying to think, as have I forced nothing on anyone.
My comment refers to Balkan innocent victims and criminals such as Holbrooke, whose past deeds as US Saigon's Embassy Head for "rural Pacification" had already established the eternal damnation credentials for his role in the Vietnamese genocide.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 14:41)
I remember when the bombing started. I opposed the bombings at the time, but I was working in Tuzla, Bosnia and most of the Bosnians I worked with were very enthusiastic about the bombings because of what happened to them only a few years earlier. Most of them felt that "now they(Serbs)know how it feels" and celebratory gunfire was heard all night.
(LK, 24 March 2015 14:39)
16 years since demonic murderers went on murder / destruction spree against serbs. It was unbelievable genocide. We will never forgive nor forget.
(Ratko, 24 March 2015 14:30)
you can do better than that sj. if I'm wrong I'm wrong, all you have to do to prove me wrong is corroborate your claims by citing data for Europe & Kosovo and compare the figures. that's it, so be my guest and prove me wrong
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 14:29)
Even though it might sound bad because of the civilian killed I still have to say well done NATO. After what Serbia did to Kosovars even way before the war it's nothing compared to what NATO did in Serbia. Serbia deserved much more damage in military personnel and equipment and I think they got off lightly to be honest. Imagine drunk soldiers roaming round Kosova as the pleased, it was a hell for civilians in Kosovo. Thank you NATO for saving thousands of life's. I hope Serbia learned its lesson.
(Mendo, 24 March 2015 14:23)
" Kosova has the highest cancer rates in Europe today, but it’s very undemocratic for your allies to admit it.
Good job NATO.
(sj, 24 March 2015 11:41) "
Interesting that it isn't on this list. You have a link to show that or are you just guessing?
Listen people, I feel sorry for the innocent people who lost their lives during the NATO bombardments ! BUT, you need to know that that was the only way to stop your beloved Slobodan from what he was doing in Kosova. He did genocide of Hitler kind. And Ari Gold, as a matter of fact, if you have some very simple logic then you need to know that you can never win a war with a country which got everything that was left from the Jugoslav military(tanks, aircrafts, etc) . (that is from our Albanian perspective of course.) We fought you with knives and stones in the guerilla way!! The most sophisticated weapon we had in our disposal was AK47 !! We didn't throw millions like you because we simply didn't have millions. Europe was historically against Albanians until lately when they realized that they made a huge mistake and started to support us. You were the ones who stole everything that was left from Jugoslavia. Anyway, may ALLAH give the killed and massacred innocent Albanians (more than 15000) and the innocent serbs(few in numbers) rest and peace in eternity . We people from Republic of Kosova want to have a normal life, including the interaction with you serbs ! BUT*, you need to accept what Milosevic did, say sorry to us, pay for the war damages, recognize us, and we will all move on as a region. That's the only solution, and the prosperity of our 2 countries will be for granted!
Best regards from Republic of Kosova.
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 13:52)
oh dear, you claimed its a fact that Kosov suffers from higher rates of cancer than anywhere in Europe, you made a direct comparison and claimed it as fact. so, to prove your claims, you have to compare cancer rates in Kosovo with that of the continent. you obviously have no such figures to fall back on so give me link to Iraq. don't worry sj, its not the first time you say something without having anything to back it up
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 13:08)
Too true. Only in Kosova they breath the air and the depleted uranium is filtered because the Albanians live there. No wonder the west never clean it up.
(sj, 24 March 2015 13:50)
May the innocent victims rest in peace while the criminal perpetrators join Holbrooke and his ilk in eternal damnation.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 09:46)
Me thinks that when it comes to facing eternity and exactly who will suffer eternal damnation, thou is in for a big surprise, huge!
The cruelty and injustice you forced upon the Albanian people in Kosovo shall be repaid a thousand times over when judgement day arrives.
(think again, 24 March 2015 13:22)
oh dear, you claimed its a fact that Kosov suffers from higher rates of cancer than anywhere in Europe, you made a direct comparison and claimed it as fact. so, to prove your claims, you have to compare cancer rates in Kosovo with that of the continent. you obviously have no such figures to fall back on so give me link to Iraq. don't worry sj, its not the first time you say something without having anything to back it up
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 13:08)
Maltese/Australian, go and read the history...
It will help you to not telling bullshits like this..
Albanian, have never "stole" nothing from nobody, much less from Serbs...
They're autochthonous in their oun land.
The owner of Kosova have to choise, stay with Serbia or not...
And they decide to not be with Serbia, like do: KROT, BIH, MNE, MK, SLOV, and no one in this world, have the right do deny the right of "freedom" in your own land..
(Joni, 24 March 2015 13:08)
..."Their angel of mercy took off his wings and put his black horns again ... no one has the right to forget ... no one has the right to forgive them ... just because we want to defend what we love and what we believe in, even that we have to become eternal outsiders in all movies about bloody freedom..."
(kaurIN, 24 March 2015 13:03)
It’s no secret that Iraq has an extremely high rate of cancers since the “liberation” due to depleted uranium. Kosovo suffers the same problem but for some strange reason no studies have ever been done. What happens in Iraq also occurs in Kosovo but its kept secret by the freedom-loving democrats for fear of repercussions – it’s not a good look for the US and allies.
Serbia got what it ask for, just like Nazi Germany in WWII!!!
(observer, 24 March 2015 11:48)
@observer .
You compare nazi germany and Serbia in 1999 : this is absurd!
Yes Serbia's behaviour in Kosovo was criminal but nazi Germany was far worse!
(bob, 24 March 2015 12:30)
there there mr Abdilla, you can always come and visit and reminisce about past glories. Failing that, you can always look at Kosovo on Google Maps, in there you're in charge of the navigation, so you know, you will get that feeling of being in control again
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 12:26)
Firstly it's KOSOVO. And secondly you stole land from Serbia. i am Maltese/ Australian and if anything like that happened here, a minority group claiming part of our land as their own we would do what Serbia did but we would succeed in keeping our land without the illegal help nato and un gave you. Serbia had every right to destroy albanians pity they didnt do a better job!
(John Abdilla, 24 March 2015 11:49)
Serbia should follow the example is Greece is setting and demanding war reparations for Western aggression. In Serbia's case, they should ask for reparations from Germany for WWII and from the leading NATO countries for NATO aggression on Serbia. It's not even a matter of actually expecting to receive it. Serbia has an obligation to remind NATO that it committed aggression on a small country.
Only the strongest military alliance in the world could physically remove Serbian institutions from Kosovo-Metohija, sure as hell no KLA rats who dug themselves holes to hide until NATO came to help. Every Albanian extremist that comments on here knows in their hearts that they could not, and cannot win in a military conflict against Serbia without NATO acting as their air force.
(Ari Gold, 24 March 2015 11:44)
Why would the Serbs care for Albanians when NATO killed more with their bombs and left depleted uranium in Kosovo, but they paid for it to be cleared in Serbia proper. There is no depleted uranium in Serbia but plenty in Kosova. With allies like that Milosevic was kinder.
Don’t worry you are getting plenty of medicine from the uranium. Kosova has the highest cancer rates in Europe today, but it’s very undemocratic for your allies to admit it.
Good job NATO.
(sj, 24 March 2015 11:41)
Good job Nato!! The people of Kosova are grateful for your humane action.
Serbian people are no victim of this action since they suported The Milosevic regim wich killed thousands Albanian civilian in Kosova. The serbian people just got an taste of their own medicine.
Now maybee serbs know how it feelt when Albanians got bombed by the serbian military!
(Demi, 24 March 2015 10:44)
May the innocent victims rest in peace while the criminal perpetrators join Holbrooke and his ilk in eternal damnation.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 09:46)
Firstly it's KOSOVO. And secondly you stole land from Serbia. i am Maltese/ Australian and if anything like that happened here, a minority group claiming part of our land as their own we would do what Serbia did but we would succeed in keeping our land without the illegal help nato and un gave you. Serbia had every right to destroy albanians pity they didnt do a better job!
(John Abdilla, 24 March 2015 11:49)
May the innocent victims rest in peace while the criminal perpetrators join Holbrooke and his ilk in eternal damnation.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 09:46)
Serbia should follow the example is Greece is setting and demanding war reparations for Western aggression. In Serbia's case, they should ask for reparations from Germany for WWII and from the leading NATO countries for NATO aggression on Serbia. It's not even a matter of actually expecting to receive it. Serbia has an obligation to remind NATO that it committed aggression on a small country.
Only the strongest military alliance in the world could physically remove Serbian institutions from Kosovo-Metohija, sure as hell no KLA rats who dug themselves holes to hide until NATO came to help. Every Albanian extremist that comments on here knows in their hearts that they could not, and cannot win in a military conflict against Serbia without NATO acting as their air force.
(Ari Gold, 24 March 2015 11:44)
Good job Nato!! The people of Kosova are grateful for your humane action.
Serbian people are no victim of this action since they suported The Milosevic regim wich killed thousands Albanian civilian in Kosova. The serbian people just got an taste of their own medicine.
Now maybee serbs know how it feelt when Albanians got bombed by the serbian military!
(Demi, 24 March 2015 10:44)
killing more than 15000 CIVILIANS,
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 15:38)
Since when has the number been inflated to 15,000? A few weeks ago I heard it was exaggerated to 12,000 up from the original 10. How did 5,000 more Albanians mysteriously die in the last month and a half from a conflict that took place more that 15 years ago?
How long will it take before the Internet bumps it up to 20,000?
(Balkan Anthropologist, 24 March 2015 18:37)
Maltese/Australian, go and read the history...
It will help you to not telling bullshits like this..
Albanian, have never "stole" nothing from nobody, much less from Serbs...
They're autochthonous in their oun land.
The owner of Kosova have to choise, stay with Serbia or not...
And they decide to not be with Serbia, like do: KROT, BIH, MNE, MK, SLOV, and no one in this world, have the right do deny the right of "freedom" in your own land..
(Joni, 24 March 2015 13:08)
Listen people, I feel sorry for the innocent people who lost their lives during the NATO bombardments ! BUT, you need to know that that was the only way to stop your beloved Slobodan from what he was doing in Kosova. He did genocide of Hitler kind. And Ari Gold, as a matter of fact, if you have some very simple logic then you need to know that you can never win a war with a country which got everything that was left from the Jugoslav military(tanks, aircrafts, etc) . (that is from our Albanian perspective of course.) We fought you with knives and stones in the guerilla way!! The most sophisticated weapon we had in our disposal was AK47 !! We didn't throw millions like you because we simply didn't have millions. Europe was historically against Albanians until lately when they realized that they made a huge mistake and started to support us. You were the ones who stole everything that was left from Jugoslavia. Anyway, may ALLAH give the killed and massacred innocent Albanians (more than 15000) and the innocent serbs(few in numbers) rest and peace in eternity . We people from Republic of Kosova want to have a normal life, including the interaction with you serbs ! BUT*, you need to accept what Milosevic did, say sorry to us, pay for the war damages, recognize us, and we will all move on as a region. That's the only solution, and the prosperity of our 2 countries will be for granted!
Best regards from Republic of Kosova.
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 13:52)
Why would the Serbs care for Albanians when NATO killed more with their bombs and left depleted uranium in Kosovo, but they paid for it to be cleared in Serbia proper. There is no depleted uranium in Serbia but plenty in Kosova. With allies like that Milosevic was kinder.
Don’t worry you are getting plenty of medicine from the uranium. Kosova has the highest cancer rates in Europe today, but it’s very undemocratic for your allies to admit it.
Good job NATO.
(sj, 24 March 2015 11:41)
Serbia got what it ask for, just like Nazi Germany in WWII!!!
(observer, 24 March 2015 11:48)
@observer .
You compare nazi germany and Serbia in 1999 : this is absurd!
Yes Serbia's behaviour in Kosovo was criminal but nazi Germany was far worse!
(bob, 24 March 2015 12:30)
Do you guys in Serbia REALLY know what happened in Kosova during the war? Believe me or not, even though I am an Albanian, and I love my country of course, but if there were no massacres and genocide in Kosovo by Milosevic's forces, I might have end up saying that Serbia was just defending itself and the sovereignty . BUT*, closing universities, not letting people speak their language, discriminating everyone just because we were Albanians, and latter on killing innocent civilians, raping young and old women, killing more than 15000 CIVILIANS, destroying 80% of the houses, stealing everything that was inside the houses, sending people away from their homes, what do you call that? Just be realistic and tell me how do you call that ! And believe me, they are all facts that really happened in the war, and I was/am personally affected by those crimes and I am still here in a Serbian website, debating with a serb, asking for peace and prosperity ! Milosevic was SICK ! It's not that we hated serbs until that time when he started doing that horror. I know many people who have very good memories from the time with TITO, you know why..? Because Tito was not SICK, and he was a strong man who made Albanians, Serbs, Croats, Bosnians live together ! That seems like a dream right now. Please make some research, do not be biased, and see what Milosevic did! NATO did the right thing, and Serbia paid the price. Your politicians lost Kosovo. PEACE!
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 15:38)
Apparently, B92's moderator(s) encourage inter-commentator and inter-ethnic insults and censor germane comments that constructively criticize B92 articles. Such a policy accurately reflects the primitive state of Balkan "journalism". B92, shame on you.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 15:25)
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 15:38) closing universities, not letting people speak their language, discriminating everyone just because we were Albanians, and latter on killing innocent civilians, raping young and old women, killing more than 15000 CIVILIANS, destroying 80% of the houses, stealing everything that was inside the houses, sending people away from their homes, what do you call that?
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Everyone, except NATO apologists, call it: propaganda.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 16:29)
oh dear, you claimed its a fact that Kosov suffers from higher rates of cancer than anywhere in Europe, you made a direct comparison and claimed it as fact. so, to prove your claims, you have to compare cancer rates in Kosovo with that of the continent. you obviously have no such figures to fall back on so give me link to Iraq. don't worry sj, its not the first time you say something without having anything to back it up
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 13:08)
How long will it take before the Internet bumps it up to 20,000?
(Balkan Anthropologist, 24 March 2015 18:37)
No one will ever know the true numbers, but does it really matter if you killed 100, 1000, 10,000 or even 100,000. It was brutal, it was senseless and it happened purely because you just did not like them, And it gave you some sick pleasure.
(Really?, 24 March 2015 20:55)
"Serbia should follow the example is Greece is setting and demanding war reparations for Western aggression. In Serbia's case, they should ask for reparations from Germany for WWII and from the leading NATO countries for NATO aggression on Serbia. It's not even a matter of actually expecting to receive it. Serbia has an obligation to remind NATO that it committed aggression on a small country.
Only the strongest military alliance in the world could physically remove Serbian institutions from Kosovo-Metohija, sure as hell no KLA rats who dug themselves holes to hide until NATO came to help. Every Albanian extremist that comments on here knows in their hearts that they could not, and cannot win in a military conflict against Serbia without NATO acting as their air force.
(Ari Gold, 24 March 2015 11:44)"
Does Serbia also have an obligation to remind itself about the aggression it created in two smaller countries Bosnia and Croatia or does the same logic not apply to Serbia? It seems Serbia can and has never done anything wrong to nationalists like yourself.
(LK, 24 March 2015 15:14)
May the innocent victims rest in peace while the criminal perpetrators join Holbrooke and his ilk in eternal damnation.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 09:46)
Me thinks that when it comes to facing eternity and exactly who will suffer eternal damnation, thou is in for a big surprise, huge!
The cruelty and injustice you forced upon the Albanian people in Kosovo shall be repaid a thousand times over when judgement day arrives.
(think again, 24 March 2015 13:22)
(Daniel, 26 March 2015 00:05)
I undestand:
"A+thena" city - "the meaning" city ( in Albanian )
"Mace+donia" - Cat Lovers :P( in Albanan )
"Joni+an" sea - Ours Sea ( in Albanian ) e.t.c. ....
e.t.c.....
So what????
(Joni, 26 March 2015 11:29)
"16 years since demonic murderers went on murder / destruction spree against serbs. It was unbelievable genocide. We will never forgive nor forget.
(Ratko, 24 March 2015 14:30)"
You might want to look up genocide in the dictionary or better yet, cross the Drina into eastern Bosnia and look for yourself what real genocide is.
(LK`, 24 March 2015 15:17)
I remember when the bombing started. I opposed the bombings at the time, but I was working in Tuzla, Bosnia and most of the Bosnians I worked with were very enthusiastic about the bombings because of what happened to them only a few years earlier. Most of them felt that "now they(Serbs)know how it feels" and celebratory gunfire was heard all night.
(LK, 24 March 2015 14:39)
Even though it might sound bad because of the civilian killed I still have to say well done NATO. After what Serbia did to Kosovars even way before the war it's nothing compared to what NATO did in Serbia. Serbia deserved much more damage in military personnel and equipment and I think they got off lightly to be honest. Imagine drunk soldiers roaming round Kosova as the pleased, it was a hell for civilians in Kosovo. Thank you NATO for saving thousands of life's. I hope Serbia learned its lesson.
(Mendo, 24 March 2015 14:23)
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 13:52) say sorry to us, pay for the war damages, recognize us, and we will all move on as a region. That's the only solution, and the prosperity of our 2 countries will be for granted!
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Odd? NATO apologists have said that KiM achieved prosperity after the bombing and attained quasi-Utopian status in 2008. Why do you now ask for a grant of prosperity? And who pray tell are you now demanding to "grant" this prosperity?
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 15:07)
The cruelty and injustice you forced upon the Albanian people in Kosovo shall be repaid a thousand times over when judgement day arrives.
(think again, 24 March 2015 13:22)
Shout louder and shake your fist harder when making these ridiculously bombastic statements. The Internet comment section is a large place.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 24 March 2015 18:33)
dear all, i think that any comment will be too much. from both sides people suffered and i agree. one thing was confusing. history. by the way, we all have to forget, and to show to each other respect and look in the future.I am from Serbia but I like many other people think that this all bad things was created by politicians, not by common people.
Peace brothers and live our short lives with love and happines.
(robert, 24 March 2015 18:27)
It’s no secret that Iraq has an extremely high rate of cancers since the “liberation” due to depleted uranium. Kosovo suffers the same problem but for some strange reason no studies have ever been done. What happens in Iraq also occurs in Kosovo but its kept secret by the freedom-loving democrats for fear of repercussions – it’s not a good look for the US and allies.
(think again, 24 March 2015 13:22) The cruelty and injustice you forced upon the Albanian people in Kosovo shall be repaid a thousand times over when judgement day arrives.
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You should keep on trying to think, as have I forced nothing on anyone.
My comment refers to Balkan innocent victims and criminals such as Holbrooke, whose past deeds as US Saigon's Embassy Head for "rural Pacification" had already established the eternal damnation credentials for his role in the Vietnamese genocide.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 14:41)
16 years since demonic murderers went on murder / destruction spree against serbs. It was unbelievable genocide. We will never forgive nor forget.
(Ratko, 24 March 2015 14:30)
"BUT, closing universities, not letting people speak their language, discriminating everyone just because we were Albanians...killing more than 15000 CIVILIANS, destroying 80% of the houses..."
"Milosevic was SICK ! It's not that we hated Serbs until that time when he started..."
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 15:38)
Wow - to whom are you lying to? Serbs, foreigners - or yourself?
1. I have no doubt that atrocities were committed by Serbs in Kosovo (and in Bosnia) - but nowhere near as bad as portrayed in the west (and by you) - a lot of it is just propaganda. Anyway I hope the perps were/will be punished.
2. You (Albanians) did not hate Serbs? What about all the ethnic cleansing, all the attacks during the '70s and '80s? Why did Milosevic clamp down on your freedoms? Because he didn't like you? NO, because you abused your freedom! You were using state sponsored infrastructure, education and media (all in Albanian language which we do not understand) for campaign against Serbs, Serbia, and its sovereignty. You were Albanians living in Serbia - but working against it and its people in order to take that territory (Kosovo) for yourselves - you became 90% majority through mass immigration and VERY high natality rate, while actively pushing Serbs out of already very poor region. I have no doubt this was an orchestrated campaign by Albania.
EVERY country in the world would do what Serbia did - do you think that USA will give Texas to Mexico some day?? I think not!
(TurboNator, 25 March 2015 08:55)
there there mr Abdilla, you can always come and visit and reminisce about past glories. Failing that, you can always look at Kosovo on Google Maps, in there you're in charge of the navigation, so you know, you will get that feeling of being in control again
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 12:26)
@ Dusan,
Please bring any source , I mean any sources, that says that Albanians come or immigrated to the "Serbian place called Kosovo".
On the other hand, I can bring you a million sources that say that Serbian came to this place that you call Kosovo.
(delon, 25 March 2015 14:32)
" Kosova has the highest cancer rates in Europe today, but it’s very undemocratic for your allies to admit it.
Good job NATO.
(sj, 24 March 2015 11:41) "
Interesting that it isn't on this list. You have a link to show that or are you just guessing?
no retort to the article eh sj? i'm going for a moment to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that your comprehension skills are above that of a 6 year old, and presume that you understand what HIGHEST in EUROPE means. to be fair to you, it does not say cancer rates but mortality FROM cancer, still one wonders, given your earlier claims that Kosovo suffer more than any other place in Europe from that awful predicament actually means in the context of that article. i should tell you, i take no pleasure in Serbia topping this chart, cancer is a horrible thing
(Nikolle, 26 March 2015 12:49)
oh dear, you claimed its a fact that Kosov suffers from higher rates of cancer than anywhere in Europe, you made a direct comparison and claimed it as fact. so, to prove your claims, you have to compare cancer rates in Kosovo with that of the continent. you obviously have no such figures to fall back on so give me link to Iraq. don't worry sj, its not the first time you say something without having anything to back it up
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 13:08)
Too true. Only in Kosova they breath the air and the depleted uranium is filtered because the Albanians live there. No wonder the west never clean it up.
(sj, 24 March 2015 13:50)
you can do better than that sj. if I'm wrong I'm wrong, all you have to do to prove me wrong is corroborate your claims by citing data for Europe & Kosovo and compare the figures. that's it, so be my guest and prove me wrong
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 14:29)
"I agree with you and retract my posting as I see the error of my ways. To all here please note while depleted uranium is causing terrible health problems in Iraq this never occurs in Kosova because its shielded by a wall of freedom and democracy. Or is perhaps all this is due to tight control of information by the west.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:31) "
So your statement is your assumption and not a fact. Simple as that.
(SJSJSJSJ, 25 March 2015 09:11)
How long will it take before the Internet bumps it up to 20,000?
(Balkan Anthropologist, 24 March 2015 18:37)
Give it another 5 years Arlington national Cemetery will look like a dot on a map when comparing with the Albanian deaths in Kosovo. Like a good fishing story, it gets bigger and bigger with the telling.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:34)
Was the motto that covered the world in 1999!
Great job Nato. Milosevic and all other like him deserved to die, and more.
(JustAnotherKosovar, 25 March 2015 12:44)
Dont try to act that you know the meaing of that word and no, kosovo has never ever been albanian land and never will be. One just has to take a look at the word kosovo, a serbian word, to understand it. Now if it was albanian dont you think it would have an albanian name and not a serbian one? Kos= Blackbird in serbian, Kosovo= The blackbird´s, Kosovo Polje= Field of the blackbird.
(Daniel, 26 March 2015 00:05)
Oh, OK so a territory's ownership can be determined by just looking at its name. Great, so that territory that today is called Kosovo can easily become Albanian tomorrow; all it takes is its residents deciding to change its name to an Albanian name hahaha
(icj1, 29 March 2015 23:21)
Shame for western politics and nato. USA wanted resaurces from Serbia and Kosovo has plenty of them. If Albanians realy think that USA will help them, maybe they already should thank them for massive uranium.
Mesaage for the peoples from Kosovo, if you dont like Serbia, why did you came on the Serbian ground called Kosovo ?
This is ridicilous
(Dusan Silni, 24 March 2015 23:32)
Easy to prove me wrong sj, just post the data here and you'll be vindicated. So instead of going on pointless tangents about Iraq and whatever else, post the info here and you'll have validated your claims. But I bet my right arm and left leg that you have nothing
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 23:33)
Dude, you have no idea how stupid you seem like with these propaganda and provokacije words! These are words that only you and your brothers Russians use. If you might think that the whole world is Russia and Serbia, then you can start looking for a geography course as soon as possible because your knowledge is disgraceful !
I'm just pointing out what really happened in the war ! It's not my fault that your media brainwashes you and you still have the Milosevic ideas in your minds ! It's really sad that even though you know what he has done you still support his ideology of genocide and ethnic cleansing. Best regards from Republic of Kosova. (Provokacije ! LOL)
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 23:31)
you can do better than that sj. if I'm wrong I'm wrong, all you have to do to prove me wrong is corroborate your claims by citing data for Europe & Kosovo and compare the figures. that's it, so be my guest and prove me wrong
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 14:29)
I agree with you and retract my posting as I see the error of my ways. To all here please note while depleted uranium is causing terrible health problems in Iraq this never occurs in Kosova because its shielded by a wall of freedom and democracy. Or is perhaps all this is due to tight control of information by the west.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:31)
I agree with you and retract my posting as I see the error of my ways.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:31)
Np mate... that's a normal occurrence :)
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To all here please note while depleted uranium is causing terrible health problems in Iraq this never occurs in Kosova because its shielded by a wall of freedom and democracy.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:31)
Evidence please that this never occurs in Kosova and that Kosova is shielded by a wall of freedom and democracy.
(icj1, 25 March 2015 02:23)
I'm sorry disappoint you Daniel.
G.Translate can't help you to much in plural or in words coupling.
Word for word have that meaning in Albanian.
Don't belive, ask somebody who speak Albanian, there will be someone who speak Albanian in Serbia. There are to many other but i have no time right now to mention.
By the way, you will find also an Ilirian ( albanian ) word that they refer to Kosovo.
(Joni, 27 March 2015 13:42)
pointless tangents continued eh sj? you're now venturing into conspiracy territory with statements like this: "ll information of this type has to be approved by western authorities prior to release plus you have to have people collecting that information." you made a claim with you asserted was fact, that Kosovo has the highest cancer rates in Europe. now tell me, can you verify your claims or not? if you can, post it here and you will have shown me up
(Nikolle, 25 March 2015 11:57)
Interesting that it isn't on this list. You have a link to show that or are you just guessing?
[link]
(SJSJSJSJ, 24 March 2015 13:54)
What’s so surprising about not being on “this list?” If no data is submitted then there is no data to include in a report. All of the information that is in that report is provided voluntarily by individual countries. Kosovo is controlled by the west so very little comes out that they do not allow.
Despite the Iraqi government sending all the information its mainly ignored by the west and rarely mentioned in the media – when was the last time you read about this in your local paper? However, the medical profession totally accepts that Iraqis are suffering from the depleted uranium.
You have NATO soldiers who served in Kosovo that claim to be suffering diseases caused by depleted uranium and authorities denying there is a link simply because it would open a “pandoras box” to compensation.
Perhaps you want to claim that depleted uranium causes all the illnesses and deformed children in Iraq, but that does not occur simply because Kosovo is in Europe. When you add 2+2 it always equals 4 not 74.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:24)
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 23:31)
Dude, you have no idea how stupid you seem like with these propaganda and provokacije words! These are words that only you and your brothers Russians use. If you might think that the whole world is Russia and Serbia, then you can start looking for a geography course as soon as possible because your knowledge is disgraceful !
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Dear Ilir,
Please go back and read my posts carefully, as you've confused me with another individual. My (Amnesty Yugoslavia) writings make no reference to Serbs or Russians, or any other ethnic group for that matter. The only descriptor associated with the victims in my comment was "innocent".
My siblings are not Russian. However, as an offspring from a mixed marriage, I do have siblings, cousins and relatives with colorful heterogeneous backgrounds.
I obtained excellent grades in my studies of World Geography. I am quite familiar with the UN map of the world and the territories of both Serbia and Russia.
[link]
You may wish to acquaint yourself with the facts on this map as you appear to be unnecessarily confused and frustrated.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 25 March 2015 17:56)
Well said Turbinator the truth is known by all. How they wish to cover it up is fairly shameful but nothing better is to be expected.
(SJ4, 25 March 2015 11:26)
A+thena" city - "the meaning" city ( in Albanian )
"Mace+donia" - Cat Lovers :P( in Albanan )
"Joni+an" sea - Ours Sea ( in Albanian ) e.t.c. ....
e.t.c.....
So what????
(Joni, 26 March 2015 11:29)
The difference is that you have to change the words for them to have a meaning in albanian while kosovo is a serbian word just as it is.
(Daniel, 27 March 2015 12:25)
..."Their angel of mercy took off his wings and put his black horns again ... no one has the right to forget ... no one has the right to forgive them ... just because we want to defend what we love and what we believe in, even that we have to become eternal outsiders in all movies about bloody freedom..."
(kaurIN, 24 March 2015 13:03)
Odd? NATO apologists have said that KiM achieved prosperity after the bombing and attained quasi-Utopian status in 2008. Why do you now ask for a grant of prosperity? And who pray tell are you now demanding to "grant" this prosperity?
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 15:07)
LOL, nobody ever said that Kosovo attained quasi-Utopian status in 2008. Just you. I like how you make up a non-existent claim to only fight with it. Exactly like Don Quixote and his windmills :).
(Reader, 25 March 2015 18:56)
Shout louder and shake your fist harder when making these ridiculously bombastic statements. The Internet comment section is a large place.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 24 March 2015 18:33)
No need to shout, God heard the pleas and felt the tears of those you and your fellow countrymen murdered, raped, maimed, brutalized. You should attempt to live as long as you can in this life as the next one will not be as comfortable!
You CAN escape the justice of man, there is NO escape from the justice of GOD.
(think again, 24 March 2015 20:51)
(Reader, 25 March 2015 18:56) LOL, nobody ever said that Kosovo attained quasi-Utopian status in 2008. Just you. I like how you make up a non-existent claim to only fight with it. Exactly like Don Quixote and his windmills :).
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Dear Reader,
My comment, in part, was a sarcastic response to a desperate plea for prosperity by Ilir.
Yes, KiM after the NATO bombing did not prosper and has achieved no formal status.
Sadly, no LOL for us to offer poor Ilir and his plea of a "grant" for prosperity... just the dismal facts.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 26 March 2015 10:59)
(icj1, 29 March 2015 23:17) , it has achieved formal status for almost 110 countries... You might disagree, but who cares what you have to say :)
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Great news!! If this is all KiM needs, then KiM should move on with providing some safety and prosperity to its impoverished population.
I assume that the majority of the planet's population which include major population centers such as China and India and close to 100 hundred other countries who have given no diplomatic recognition is as irrelevant to you as the geographic fact (source: UN map of the World) that KiM is an integral part of of Serbia's sovereign territory. Great news! Who cares! Please call Brussels and inform them immediately there is no need for any more charades and "negotiations" and that KiM does not care what Serbia and others think. icj1 has solved the problem. Yes, who cares!
Please proceed with improving the lives of the innocent and suffering population of KiM. I bet that even fewer people of these lands care about your country count and many more are worried about feeding themselves and raising their families.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 31 March 2015 09:34)
Sorry my "ignorance" sir, but you have already the answer.....
(Joni, 25 March 2015 15:48)"
Dont try to act that you know the meaing of that word and no, kosovo has never ever been albanian land and never will be. One just has to take a look at the word kosovo, a serbian word, to understand it. Now if it was albanian dont you think it would have an albanian name and not a serbian one? Kos= Blackbird in serbian, Kosovo= The blackbird´s, Kosovo Polje= Field of the blackbird.
(Daniel, 26 March 2015 00:05)
Why didn't Usa and Russia entered in to conflict at the start of the war,like they did for Ukraine last year.There would be less civil casualties and less war crimes on civilians.EU was to inferior and let them to kill each other for 5 years.I hope so EU and world learned a lesson from that conflict.If world doesn't pay a big attention to chauvinists,they could pull the civilians in to civil war again.Where is poverty,unemployment,corruption,there is the best environment for chauvinists to start their wars in every country.
(Peace, 25 March 2015 14:34)
So your statement is your assumption and not a fact. Simple as that.
(SJSJSJSJ, 25 March 2015 09:11)
Lets look at that assumption. In Iraq people suffer high rates of various cancers and large numbers of children have terrible birth defects and pre being freed from tyranny these numbers were low, but Kosovo does not suffer from those affects because its not in an official report. And yet every article on that subject points to the Iraqi direction.
Medical experts from western countries have all said that what happens in Iraq happens in all countries which have depleted uranium. As I said before maybe its the shield of freedom and democracy that protects the Kosovars.
(sj, 25 March 2015 11:24)
pointless tangents continued eh sj? you're now venturing into conspiracy territory with statements like this: "ll information of this type has to be approved by western authorities prior to release plus you have to have people collecting that information." you made a claim with you asserted was fact, that Kosovo has the highest cancer rates in Europe. now tell me, can you verify your claims or not? if you can, post it here and you will have shown me up
(Nikolle, 25 March 2015 11:57)
Don’t get a headache thinking about it too much but this comes from an earlier attachment:
“A confidential preliminary UN report leaked in May 1999, as the bombing continued, did not mince words: "This type of ammunition is nuclear waste, and its use is very dangerous and harmful," it said. After NATO released its figures, the UN recommended that "measures should be taken to prevent access." For Kosovars, like Iraqis, such warnings may be too late.”
No other reports were ever prepared or issued and Pristina never raised that subject.
(sj, 25 March 2015 22:36)
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 23:33)
As I said before, now pay attention, the data that you refer to is provided by countries voluntarily and since Pristina does not provide it, it does not exist. All information of this type has to be approved by western authorities prior to release plus you have to have people collecting that information. Since no money is allocated for this purpose no one knows the real figures.
“instead of going on pointless tangents about Iraq” Iraq and Kosovo were both bombed using depleted uranium – see the connection picture now or are you that stupid? No? Well since people in Iraq are suffering with various problems due to depleted uranium the conclusion is so do the people in Kosovo
(sj, 25 March 2015 11:36)
Here you go sj, read it and weep
(Nikolle, 25 March 2015 23:27)
Is it any wonder NATO killed so many Albos during the bombing LOL?
Now Serbia claims it has an increase in cancers due to NATO bombing (and that would be correct), but this has not occurred in the paradise of Kosova where the west dropped most of the depleted uranium. With this kind of logic Albos are truly a waste of space.
(sj, 26 March 2015 12:32)
Good job Nato!! The people of Kosova are grateful for your humane action.
Serbian people are no victim of this action since they suported The Milosevic regim wich killed thousands Albanian civilian in Kosova. The serbian people just got an taste of their own medicine.
Now maybee serbs know how it feelt when Albanians got bombed by the serbian military!
(Demi, 24 March 2015 10:44)
Do you guys in Serbia REALLY know what happened in Kosova during the war? Believe me or not, even though I am an Albanian, and I love my country of course, but if there were no massacres and genocide in Kosovo by Milosevic's forces, I might have end up saying that Serbia was just defending itself and the sovereignty . BUT*, closing universities, not letting people speak their language, discriminating everyone just because we were Albanians, and latter on killing innocent civilians, raping young and old women, killing more than 15000 CIVILIANS, destroying 80% of the houses, stealing everything that was inside the houses, sending people away from their homes, what do you call that? Just be realistic and tell me how do you call that ! And believe me, they are all facts that really happened in the war, and I was/am personally affected by those crimes and I am still here in a Serbian website, debating with a serb, asking for peace and prosperity ! Milosevic was SICK ! It's not that we hated serbs until that time when he started doing that horror. I know many people who have very good memories from the time with TITO, you know why..? Because Tito was not SICK, and he was a strong man who made Albanians, Serbs, Croats, Bosnians live together ! That seems like a dream right now. Please make some research, do not be biased, and see what Milosevic did! NATO did the right thing, and Serbia paid the price. Your politicians lost Kosovo. PEACE!
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 15:38)
Listen people, I feel sorry for the innocent people who lost their lives during the NATO bombardments ! BUT, you need to know that that was the only way to stop your beloved Slobodan from what he was doing in Kosova. He did genocide of Hitler kind. And Ari Gold, as a matter of fact, if you have some very simple logic then you need to know that you can never win a war with a country which got everything that was left from the Jugoslav military(tanks, aircrafts, etc) . (that is from our Albanian perspective of course.) We fought you with knives and stones in the guerilla way!! The most sophisticated weapon we had in our disposal was AK47 !! We didn't throw millions like you because we simply didn't have millions. Europe was historically against Albanians until lately when they realized that they made a huge mistake and started to support us. You were the ones who stole everything that was left from Jugoslavia. Anyway, may ALLAH give the killed and massacred innocent Albanians (more than 15000) and the innocent serbs(few in numbers) rest and peace in eternity . We people from Republic of Kosova want to have a normal life, including the interaction with you serbs ! BUT*, you need to accept what Milosevic did, say sorry to us, pay for the war damages, recognize us, and we will all move on as a region. That's the only solution, and the prosperity of our 2 countries will be for granted!
Best regards from Republic of Kosova.
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 13:52)
Maltese/Australian, go and read the history...
It will help you to not telling bullshits like this..
Albanian, have never "stole" nothing from nobody, much less from Serbs...
They're autochthonous in their oun land.
The owner of Kosova have to choise, stay with Serbia or not...
And they decide to not be with Serbia, like do: KROT, BIH, MNE, MK, SLOV, and no one in this world, have the right do deny the right of "freedom" in your own land..
(Joni, 24 March 2015 13:08)
Serbia should follow the example is Greece is setting and demanding war reparations for Western aggression. In Serbia's case, they should ask for reparations from Germany for WWII and from the leading NATO countries for NATO aggression on Serbia. It's not even a matter of actually expecting to receive it. Serbia has an obligation to remind NATO that it committed aggression on a small country.
Only the strongest military alliance in the world could physically remove Serbian institutions from Kosovo-Metohija, sure as hell no KLA rats who dug themselves holes to hide until NATO came to help. Every Albanian extremist that comments on here knows in their hearts that they could not, and cannot win in a military conflict against Serbia without NATO acting as their air force.
(Ari Gold, 24 March 2015 11:44)
Firstly it's KOSOVO. And secondly you stole land from Serbia. i am Maltese/ Australian and if anything like that happened here, a minority group claiming part of our land as their own we would do what Serbia did but we would succeed in keeping our land without the illegal help nato and un gave you. Serbia had every right to destroy albanians pity they didnt do a better job!
(John Abdilla, 24 March 2015 11:49)
Why would the Serbs care for Albanians when NATO killed more with their bombs and left depleted uranium in Kosovo, but they paid for it to be cleared in Serbia proper. There is no depleted uranium in Serbia but plenty in Kosova. With allies like that Milosevic was kinder.
Don’t worry you are getting plenty of medicine from the uranium. Kosova has the highest cancer rates in Europe today, but it’s very undemocratic for your allies to admit it.
Good job NATO.
(sj, 24 March 2015 11:41)
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 15:38) closing universities, not letting people speak their language, discriminating everyone just because we were Albanians, and latter on killing innocent civilians, raping young and old women, killing more than 15000 CIVILIANS, destroying 80% of the houses, stealing everything that was inside the houses, sending people away from their homes, what do you call that?
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Everyone, except NATO apologists, call it: propaganda.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 16:29)
May the innocent victims rest in peace while the criminal perpetrators join Holbrooke and his ilk in eternal damnation.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 09:46)
May the innocent victims rest in peace while the criminal perpetrators join Holbrooke and his ilk in eternal damnation.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 09:46)
Me thinks that when it comes to facing eternity and exactly who will suffer eternal damnation, thou is in for a big surprise, huge!
The cruelty and injustice you forced upon the Albanian people in Kosovo shall be repaid a thousand times over when judgement day arrives.
(think again, 24 March 2015 13:22)
Even though it might sound bad because of the civilian killed I still have to say well done NATO. After what Serbia did to Kosovars even way before the war it's nothing compared to what NATO did in Serbia. Serbia deserved much more damage in military personnel and equipment and I think they got off lightly to be honest. Imagine drunk soldiers roaming round Kosova as the pleased, it was a hell for civilians in Kosovo. Thank you NATO for saving thousands of life's. I hope Serbia learned its lesson.
(Mendo, 24 March 2015 14:23)
16 years since demonic murderers went on murder / destruction spree against serbs. It was unbelievable genocide. We will never forgive nor forget.
(Ratko, 24 March 2015 14:30)
oh dear, you claimed its a fact that Kosov suffers from higher rates of cancer than anywhere in Europe, you made a direct comparison and claimed it as fact. so, to prove your claims, you have to compare cancer rates in Kosovo with that of the continent. you obviously have no such figures to fall back on so give me link to Iraq. don't worry sj, its not the first time you say something without having anything to back it up
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 13:08)
Too true. Only in Kosova they breath the air and the depleted uranium is filtered because the Albanians live there. No wonder the west never clean it up.
(sj, 24 March 2015 13:50)
"Serbia should follow the example is Greece is setting and demanding war reparations for Western aggression. In Serbia's case, they should ask for reparations from Germany for WWII and from the leading NATO countries for NATO aggression on Serbia. It's not even a matter of actually expecting to receive it. Serbia has an obligation to remind NATO that it committed aggression on a small country.
Only the strongest military alliance in the world could physically remove Serbian institutions from Kosovo-Metohija, sure as hell no KLA rats who dug themselves holes to hide until NATO came to help. Every Albanian extremist that comments on here knows in their hearts that they could not, and cannot win in a military conflict against Serbia without NATO acting as their air force.
(Ari Gold, 24 March 2015 11:44)"
Does Serbia also have an obligation to remind itself about the aggression it created in two smaller countries Bosnia and Croatia or does the same logic not apply to Serbia? It seems Serbia can and has never done anything wrong to nationalists like yourself.
(LK, 24 March 2015 15:14)
Sorry my "ignorance" sir, but you have already the answer.....
(Joni, 25 March 2015 15:48)"
Dont try to act that you know the meaing of that word and no, kosovo has never ever been albanian land and never will be. One just has to take a look at the word kosovo, a serbian word, to understand it. Now if it was albanian dont you think it would have an albanian name and not a serbian one? Kos= Blackbird in serbian, Kosovo= The blackbird´s, Kosovo Polje= Field of the blackbird.
(Daniel, 26 March 2015 00:05)
there there mr Abdilla, you can always come and visit and reminisce about past glories. Failing that, you can always look at Kosovo on Google Maps, in there you're in charge of the navigation, so you know, you will get that feeling of being in control again
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 12:26)
Here you go sj, read it and weep
(Nikolle, 25 March 2015 23:27)
Is it any wonder NATO killed so many Albos during the bombing LOL?
Now Serbia claims it has an increase in cancers due to NATO bombing (and that would be correct), but this has not occurred in the paradise of Kosova where the west dropped most of the depleted uranium. With this kind of logic Albos are truly a waste of space.
(sj, 26 March 2015 12:32)
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 13:52) say sorry to us, pay for the war damages, recognize us, and we will all move on as a region. That's the only solution, and the prosperity of our 2 countries will be for granted!
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Odd? NATO apologists have said that KiM achieved prosperity after the bombing and attained quasi-Utopian status in 2008. Why do you now ask for a grant of prosperity? And who pray tell are you now demanding to "grant" this prosperity?
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 15:07)
I remember when the bombing started. I opposed the bombings at the time, but I was working in Tuzla, Bosnia and most of the Bosnians I worked with were very enthusiastic about the bombings because of what happened to them only a few years earlier. Most of them felt that "now they(Serbs)know how it feels" and celebratory gunfire was heard all night.
(LK, 24 March 2015 14:39)
you can do better than that sj. if I'm wrong I'm wrong, all you have to do to prove me wrong is corroborate your claims by citing data for Europe & Kosovo and compare the figures. that's it, so be my guest and prove me wrong
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 14:29)
I agree with you and retract my posting as I see the error of my ways. To all here please note while depleted uranium is causing terrible health problems in Iraq this never occurs in Kosova because its shielded by a wall of freedom and democracy. Or is perhaps all this is due to tight control of information by the west.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:31)
Serbia got what it ask for, just like Nazi Germany in WWII!!!
(observer, 24 March 2015 11:48)
@observer .
You compare nazi germany and Serbia in 1999 : this is absurd!
Yes Serbia's behaviour in Kosovo was criminal but nazi Germany was far worse!
(bob, 24 March 2015 12:30)
"16 years since demonic murderers went on murder / destruction spree against serbs. It was unbelievable genocide. We will never forgive nor forget.
(Ratko, 24 March 2015 14:30)"
You might want to look up genocide in the dictionary or better yet, cross the Drina into eastern Bosnia and look for yourself what real genocide is.
(LK`, 24 March 2015 15:17)
Was the motto that covered the world in 1999!
Great job Nato. Milosevic and all other like him deserved to die, and more.
(JustAnotherKosovar, 25 March 2015 12:44)
(think again, 24 March 2015 13:22) The cruelty and injustice you forced upon the Albanian people in Kosovo shall be repaid a thousand times over when judgement day arrives.
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You should keep on trying to think, as have I forced nothing on anyone.
My comment refers to Balkan innocent victims and criminals such as Holbrooke, whose past deeds as US Saigon's Embassy Head for "rural Pacification" had already established the eternal damnation credentials for his role in the Vietnamese genocide.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 14:41)
"BUT, closing universities, not letting people speak their language, discriminating everyone just because we were Albanians...killing more than 15000 CIVILIANS, destroying 80% of the houses..."
"Milosevic was SICK ! It's not that we hated Serbs until that time when he started..."
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 15:38)
Wow - to whom are you lying to? Serbs, foreigners - or yourself?
1. I have no doubt that atrocities were committed by Serbs in Kosovo (and in Bosnia) - but nowhere near as bad as portrayed in the west (and by you) - a lot of it is just propaganda. Anyway I hope the perps were/will be punished.
2. You (Albanians) did not hate Serbs? What about all the ethnic cleansing, all the attacks during the '70s and '80s? Why did Milosevic clamp down on your freedoms? Because he didn't like you? NO, because you abused your freedom! You were using state sponsored infrastructure, education and media (all in Albanian language which we do not understand) for campaign against Serbs, Serbia, and its sovereignty. You were Albanians living in Serbia - but working against it and its people in order to take that territory (Kosovo) for yourselves - you became 90% majority through mass immigration and VERY high natality rate, while actively pushing Serbs out of already very poor region. I have no doubt this was an orchestrated campaign by Albania.
EVERY country in the world would do what Serbia did - do you think that USA will give Texas to Mexico some day?? I think not!
(TurboNator, 25 March 2015 08:55)
killing more than 15000 CIVILIANS,
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 15:38)
Since when has the number been inflated to 15,000? A few weeks ago I heard it was exaggerated to 12,000 up from the original 10. How did 5,000 more Albanians mysteriously die in the last month and a half from a conflict that took place more that 15 years ago?
How long will it take before the Internet bumps it up to 20,000?
(Balkan Anthropologist, 24 March 2015 18:37)
How long will it take before the Internet bumps it up to 20,000?
(Balkan Anthropologist, 24 March 2015 18:37)
Give it another 5 years Arlington national Cemetery will look like a dot on a map when comparing with the Albanian deaths in Kosovo. Like a good fishing story, it gets bigger and bigger with the telling.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:34)
Interesting that it isn't on this list. You have a link to show that or are you just guessing?
[link]
(SJSJSJSJ, 24 March 2015 13:54)
What’s so surprising about not being on “this list?” If no data is submitted then there is no data to include in a report. All of the information that is in that report is provided voluntarily by individual countries. Kosovo is controlled by the west so very little comes out that they do not allow.
Despite the Iraqi government sending all the information its mainly ignored by the west and rarely mentioned in the media – when was the last time you read about this in your local paper? However, the medical profession totally accepts that Iraqis are suffering from the depleted uranium.
You have NATO soldiers who served in Kosovo that claim to be suffering diseases caused by depleted uranium and authorities denying there is a link simply because it would open a “pandoras box” to compensation.
Perhaps you want to claim that depleted uranium causes all the illnesses and deformed children in Iraq, but that does not occur simply because Kosovo is in Europe. When you add 2+2 it always equals 4 not 74.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:24)
It’s no secret that Iraq has an extremely high rate of cancers since the “liberation” due to depleted uranium. Kosovo suffers the same problem but for some strange reason no studies have ever been done. What happens in Iraq also occurs in Kosovo but its kept secret by the freedom-loving democrats for fear of repercussions – it’s not a good look for the US and allies.
oh dear, you claimed its a fact that Kosov suffers from higher rates of cancer than anywhere in Europe, you made a direct comparison and claimed it as fact. so, to prove your claims, you have to compare cancer rates in Kosovo with that of the continent. you obviously have no such figures to fall back on so give me link to Iraq. don't worry sj, its not the first time you say something without having anything to back it up
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 13:08)
Apparently, B92's moderator(s) encourage inter-commentator and inter-ethnic insults and censor germane comments that constructively criticize B92 articles. Such a policy accurately reflects the primitive state of Balkan "journalism". B92, shame on you.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 15:25)
How long will it take before the Internet bumps it up to 20,000?
(Balkan Anthropologist, 24 March 2015 18:37)
No one will ever know the true numbers, but does it really matter if you killed 100, 1000, 10,000 or even 100,000. It was brutal, it was senseless and it happened purely because you just did not like them, And it gave you some sick pleasure.
(Really?, 24 March 2015 20:55)
The cruelty and injustice you forced upon the Albanian people in Kosovo shall be repaid a thousand times over when judgement day arrives.
(think again, 24 March 2015 13:22)
Shout louder and shake your fist harder when making these ridiculously bombastic statements. The Internet comment section is a large place.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 24 March 2015 18:33)
(Reader, 25 March 2015 18:56) LOL, nobody ever said that Kosovo attained quasi-Utopian status in 2008. Just you. I like how you make up a non-existent claim to only fight with it. Exactly like Don Quixote and his windmills :).
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Dear Reader,
My comment, in part, was a sarcastic response to a desperate plea for prosperity by Ilir.
Yes, KiM after the NATO bombing did not prosper and has achieved no formal status.
Sadly, no LOL for us to offer poor Ilir and his plea of a "grant" for prosperity... just the dismal facts.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 26 March 2015 10:59)
@ Dusan,
Please bring any source , I mean any sources, that says that Albanians come or immigrated to the "Serbian place called Kosovo".
On the other hand, I can bring you a million sources that say that Serbian came to this place that you call Kosovo.
(delon, 25 March 2015 14:32)
Shame for western politics and nato. USA wanted resaurces from Serbia and Kosovo has plenty of them. If Albanians realy think that USA will help them, maybe they already should thank them for massive uranium.
Mesaage for the peoples from Kosovo, if you dont like Serbia, why did you came on the Serbian ground called Kosovo ?
This is ridicilous
(Dusan Silni, 24 March 2015 23:32)
you can do better than that sj. if I'm wrong I'm wrong, all you have to do to prove me wrong is corroborate your claims by citing data for Europe & Kosovo and compare the figures. that's it, so be my guest and prove me wrong
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 14:29)
pointless tangents continued eh sj? you're now venturing into conspiracy territory with statements like this: "ll information of this type has to be approved by western authorities prior to release plus you have to have people collecting that information." you made a claim with you asserted was fact, that Kosovo has the highest cancer rates in Europe. now tell me, can you verify your claims or not? if you can, post it here and you will have shown me up
(Nikolle, 25 March 2015 11:57)
Don’t get a headache thinking about it too much but this comes from an earlier attachment:
“A confidential preliminary UN report leaked in May 1999, as the bombing continued, did not mince words: "This type of ammunition is nuclear waste, and its use is very dangerous and harmful," it said. After NATO released its figures, the UN recommended that "measures should be taken to prevent access." For Kosovars, like Iraqis, such warnings may be too late.”
No other reports were ever prepared or issued and Pristina never raised that subject.
(sj, 25 March 2015 22:36)
So your statement is your assumption and not a fact. Simple as that.
(SJSJSJSJ, 25 March 2015 09:11)
Lets look at that assumption. In Iraq people suffer high rates of various cancers and large numbers of children have terrible birth defects and pre being freed from tyranny these numbers were low, but Kosovo does not suffer from those affects because its not in an official report. And yet every article on that subject points to the Iraqi direction.
Medical experts from western countries have all said that what happens in Iraq happens in all countries which have depleted uranium. As I said before maybe its the shield of freedom and democracy that protects the Kosovars.
(sj, 25 March 2015 11:24)
Shout louder and shake your fist harder when making these ridiculously bombastic statements. The Internet comment section is a large place.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 24 March 2015 18:33)
No need to shout, God heard the pleas and felt the tears of those you and your fellow countrymen murdered, raped, maimed, brutalized. You should attempt to live as long as you can in this life as the next one will not be as comfortable!
You CAN escape the justice of man, there is NO escape from the justice of GOD.
(think again, 24 March 2015 20:51)
" Kosova has the highest cancer rates in Europe today, but it’s very undemocratic for your allies to admit it.
Good job NATO.
(sj, 24 March 2015 11:41) "
Interesting that it isn't on this list. You have a link to show that or are you just guessing?
Dude, you have no idea how stupid you seem like with these propaganda and provokacije words! These are words that only you and your brothers Russians use. If you might think that the whole world is Russia and Serbia, then you can start looking for a geography course as soon as possible because your knowledge is disgraceful !
I'm just pointing out what really happened in the war ! It's not my fault that your media brainwashes you and you still have the Milosevic ideas in your minds ! It's really sad that even though you know what he has done you still support his ideology of genocide and ethnic cleansing. Best regards from Republic of Kosova. (Provokacije ! LOL)
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 23:31)
"I agree with you and retract my posting as I see the error of my ways. To all here please note while depleted uranium is causing terrible health problems in Iraq this never occurs in Kosova because its shielded by a wall of freedom and democracy. Or is perhaps all this is due to tight control of information by the west.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:31) "
So your statement is your assumption and not a fact. Simple as that.
(SJSJSJSJ, 25 March 2015 09:11)
A+thena" city - "the meaning" city ( in Albanian )
"Mace+donia" - Cat Lovers :P( in Albanan )
"Joni+an" sea - Ours Sea ( in Albanian ) e.t.c. ....
e.t.c.....
So what????
(Joni, 26 March 2015 11:29)
The difference is that you have to change the words for them to have a meaning in albanian while kosovo is a serbian word just as it is.
(Daniel, 27 March 2015 12:25)
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 23:33)
As I said before, now pay attention, the data that you refer to is provided by countries voluntarily and since Pristina does not provide it, it does not exist. All information of this type has to be approved by western authorities prior to release plus you have to have people collecting that information. Since no money is allocated for this purpose no one knows the real figures.
“instead of going on pointless tangents about Iraq” Iraq and Kosovo were both bombed using depleted uranium – see the connection picture now or are you that stupid? No? Well since people in Iraq are suffering with various problems due to depleted uranium the conclusion is so do the people in Kosovo
(sj, 25 March 2015 11:36)
(Ilir, 24 March 2015 23:31)
Dude, you have no idea how stupid you seem like with these propaganda and provokacije words! These are words that only you and your brothers Russians use. If you might think that the whole world is Russia and Serbia, then you can start looking for a geography course as soon as possible because your knowledge is disgraceful !
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Dear Ilir,
Please go back and read my posts carefully, as you've confused me with another individual. My (Amnesty Yugoslavia) writings make no reference to Serbs or Russians, or any other ethnic group for that matter. The only descriptor associated with the victims in my comment was "innocent".
My siblings are not Russian. However, as an offspring from a mixed marriage, I do have siblings, cousins and relatives with colorful heterogeneous backgrounds.
I obtained excellent grades in my studies of World Geography. I am quite familiar with the UN map of the world and the territories of both Serbia and Russia.
[link]
You may wish to acquaint yourself with the facts on this map as you appear to be unnecessarily confused and frustrated.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 25 March 2015 17:56)
..."Their angel of mercy took off his wings and put his black horns again ... no one has the right to forget ... no one has the right to forgive them ... just because we want to defend what we love and what we believe in, even that we have to become eternal outsiders in all movies about bloody freedom..."
(kaurIN, 24 March 2015 13:03)
Dont try to act that you know the meaing of that word and no, kosovo has never ever been albanian land and never will be. One just has to take a look at the word kosovo, a serbian word, to understand it. Now if it was albanian dont you think it would have an albanian name and not a serbian one? Kos= Blackbird in serbian, Kosovo= The blackbird´s, Kosovo Polje= Field of the blackbird.
(Daniel, 26 March 2015 00:05)
Oh, OK so a territory's ownership can be determined by just looking at its name. Great, so that territory that today is called Kosovo can easily become Albanian tomorrow; all it takes is its residents deciding to change its name to an Albanian name hahaha
(icj1, 29 March 2015 23:21)
(Daniel, 26 March 2015 00:05)
I undestand:
"A+thena" city - "the meaning" city ( in Albanian )
"Mace+donia" - Cat Lovers :P( in Albanan )
"Joni+an" sea - Ours Sea ( in Albanian ) e.t.c. ....
e.t.c.....
So what????
(Joni, 26 March 2015 11:29)
Easy to prove me wrong sj, just post the data here and you'll be vindicated. So instead of going on pointless tangents about Iraq and whatever else, post the info here and you'll have validated your claims. But I bet my right arm and left leg that you have nothing
(Nikolle, 24 March 2015 23:33)
dear all, i think that any comment will be too much. from both sides people suffered and i agree. one thing was confusing. history. by the way, we all have to forget, and to show to each other respect and look in the future.I am from Serbia but I like many other people think that this all bad things was created by politicians, not by common people.
Peace brothers and live our short lives with love and happines.
(robert, 24 March 2015 18:27)
Why didn't Usa and Russia entered in to conflict at the start of the war,like they did for Ukraine last year.There would be less civil casualties and less war crimes on civilians.EU was to inferior and let them to kill each other for 5 years.I hope so EU and world learned a lesson from that conflict.If world doesn't pay a big attention to chauvinists,they could pull the civilians in to civil war again.Where is poverty,unemployment,corruption,there is the best environment for chauvinists to start their wars in every country.
(Peace, 25 March 2015 14:34)
I agree with you and retract my posting as I see the error of my ways.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:31)
Np mate... that's a normal occurrence :)
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To all here please note while depleted uranium is causing terrible health problems in Iraq this never occurs in Kosova because its shielded by a wall of freedom and democracy.
(sj, 24 March 2015 21:31)
Evidence please that this never occurs in Kosova and that Kosova is shielded by a wall of freedom and democracy.
(icj1, 25 March 2015 02:23)
I'm sorry disappoint you Daniel.
G.Translate can't help you to much in plural or in words coupling.
Word for word have that meaning in Albanian.
Don't belive, ask somebody who speak Albanian, there will be someone who speak Albanian in Serbia. There are to many other but i have no time right now to mention.
By the way, you will find also an Ilirian ( albanian ) word that they refer to Kosovo.
(Joni, 27 March 2015 13:42)
Well said Turbinator the truth is known by all. How they wish to cover it up is fairly shameful but nothing better is to be expected.
(SJ4, 25 March 2015 11:26)
pointless tangents continued eh sj? you're now venturing into conspiracy territory with statements like this: "ll information of this type has to be approved by western authorities prior to release plus you have to have people collecting that information." you made a claim with you asserted was fact, that Kosovo has the highest cancer rates in Europe. now tell me, can you verify your claims or not? if you can, post it here and you will have shown me up
(Nikolle, 25 March 2015 11:57)
Odd? NATO apologists have said that KiM achieved prosperity after the bombing and attained quasi-Utopian status in 2008. Why do you now ask for a grant of prosperity? And who pray tell are you now demanding to "grant" this prosperity?
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 24 March 2015 15:07)
LOL, nobody ever said that Kosovo attained quasi-Utopian status in 2008. Just you. I like how you make up a non-existent claim to only fight with it. Exactly like Don Quixote and his windmills :).
(Reader, 25 March 2015 18:56)
(icj1, 29 March 2015 23:17) , it has achieved formal status for almost 110 countries... You might disagree, but who cares what you have to say :)
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Great news!! If this is all KiM needs, then KiM should move on with providing some safety and prosperity to its impoverished population.
I assume that the majority of the planet's population which include major population centers such as China and India and close to 100 hundred other countries who have given no diplomatic recognition is as irrelevant to you as the geographic fact (source: UN map of the World) that KiM is an integral part of of Serbia's sovereign territory. Great news! Who cares! Please call Brussels and inform them immediately there is no need for any more charades and "negotiations" and that KiM does not care what Serbia and others think. icj1 has solved the problem. Yes, who cares!
Please proceed with improving the lives of the innocent and suffering population of KiM. I bet that even fewer people of these lands care about your country count and many more are worried about feeding themselves and raising their families.
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 31 March 2015 09:34)
no retort to the article eh sj? i'm going for a moment to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that your comprehension skills are above that of a 6 year old, and presume that you understand what HIGHEST in EUROPE means. to be fair to you, it does not say cancer rates but mortality FROM cancer, still one wonders, given your earlier claims that Kosovo suffer more than any other place in Europe from that awful predicament actually means in the context of that article. i should tell you, i take no pleasure in Serbia topping this chart, cancer is a horrible thing
(Nikolle, 26 March 2015 12:49)