Patriarch's message deals with Kosovo, Montenegro, diaspora
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The Serbian Orthodox Church to her spiritual children at Christmas, 2018
+IRINEJ
By the Grace of God
Orthodox Archbishop of Pec, Metropolitan of Belgrade Karlovci and Serbian Patriarch, with all the Hierarchs of the Serbian Orthodox Church, to all the clergy, monastics, and all the sons and daughters of our Holy Church: grace, mercy, and peace from God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, with the joyous Christmas greeting:
Peace from God! Christ is Born!
“And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth!” (St. John 1:14)
John, the Holy Apostle, Evangelist, and the beloved disciple of Christ, expresses with his words The Word became flesh the great mystery of our Christian faith. He Who was “at the beginning”, that is from eternity, through Whom everything came to be, and without Whom nothing that exists came into existence, He Who is Life (cf. St. John 1:1-3), the Logos—the Word of God—became flesh when the fullness of time was fulfilled (Gal. 4:4), in order to bring to all people the gift of adoption to sonship, and to bring and to elevate them all to His and our Heavenly Father for their salvation and eternal life. (2 Cor. 6:18)
The Birth of our Lord Jesus Christ is an event which divides our human history into two parts: that which happened prior to His Birth, which we understand as the preparation of people for the arrival of the Messiah, and the period after His Birth, the period in which we now live. Even those who, for various reasons, do not wish to mention Christ’s name and who speak about the “old” and “new” eras, actually, in a very apt way, interpret that which the Church of Christ has preached for two thousand years, that is, everything before Christ is old and with Christ everything is new: mankind, life and all of history. (Rev. 21:5)
The Birth of the Son of God is for us Christians the central, key and most important event of the history of the world, and its meaning absolutely establishes the Christian way of life and the Christian perspective on the world. We wish to remind you, our dear spiritual children, about this foundation as you gather in our holy churches today. Emphasizing the Gospel foundations of the Orthodox Faith is never superfluous, since we are all inclined, almost unnoticeably, to inject into our faith our own views. This can happen particularly easily in these times in which we live, with worldly judgments and views, and oftentimes it is by these that we judge the Gospel and interpret the events from the history of salvation. But for Christians, the opposite undertaking is the only correct one. The Gospel, the meaning of the events from the history of salvation, and the Eucharistic experience of life in the Church, provide the foundation for our faith, and these judge the world and every historical and civilizational epoch. Let us begin first with giving thanks.
Whoever does not want to, or is not capable of, giving thanks, probably cannot comprehend anything of the Christian faith. (I Col. 5:8; Phil. 4:6) If we are ungrateful, we think that we owe nothing to anyone and that everything belongs to us because of our own efforts. In this case we owe nothing to our parents and ancestors, the society in which we live, the neighbors with whom we live, and the least of all is what we owe to God. This is how the life ethos of extreme self-sufficiency which we see today is manifested. But we are rightly indebted to our ancestors, our parents and the society to which we belong, but we are especially indebted to God. “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.” (St. John 3:16)
The Father gave us His Son, not as payment and reward for our efforts, but as an undeserved gift of his love, for He “so loved the world.” An unearned payment can be received only with tremendous thanksgiving because it is simply a gift. And it is given to those who with love approach the small and “helpless” newborn Christ Child, for it is impossible to approach a child in any other way than with love. A child understands only words of love, just as God speaks and understands only the language of love. And the gift is a confirmation and a sign of love. God the Father gives us today His Son as a gift and we, with love and thanksgiving receive that gift. And it is on the basis of this foundational principle of our Christian existence that we can now go on to speak further about some more aspects of today’s Great Holy Day.
The Son of God takes on human nature and is born in Bethlehem’s cave, and laid in a manger without ceasing to be God, but becoming fully human, the God-Man. This is the greatest mystery of our faith: that God can be present in a human person. (I Tim. 3:16) The God-Man Jesus Christ, true God and true man, is born of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary. Since that event in Bethlehem so long ago, everything in human life is new, just as this was a new and unique historical event. (II Cor. 5:17) God is inseparably united with man, and whoever through baptism and chrismation is born of the Holy Spirit is a child of the Father, though not according to nature as is Christ, but rather by grace and adoption. (Gal. 3:26) The new man is born of the Holy Spirit for salvation and eternal life. And so, God Himself through the Incarnation, and then our faith, elevates mankind, that is, every person, to the highest possible honor – to be a revelation of God’s presence in the world.
“Seeing your face is like seeing the face of God,” our forefather Jacob said to his brother Esau (Gen. 33:10). This testimony of brotherly love was fully made possible after the Incarnation of the Son of God, and it has the deepest consequences for our relationship with other people, known and unknown, friends and enemies, with all those that enter into our life, as well as towards those into whose life we enter—that the only way that leads to God passes through them and through the love we show them. Through the ascetic struggle we are to love our neighbor, and through it we reveal true and correct love towards God.
He who says that he loves God Whom he has not seen, and hates his brother whom he sees, lies to himself and to God. (I John 4:20) All of us born like the Divine Christ Child of the Holy Spirit, baptized and chrismated, all people to this very day who are taught by the Holy Spirit, Who is the Spirit of community, confess that we live as truly human persons only in the community of love. We are called to build this kind of relationship in marriage, family, wider society, and most certainly in the Church, which by her nature is the community of love. That is why the aforementioned living for self alone and self-sufficiency are sins against the Holy Spirit, the disease which needs to be treated immediately as soon as any sign of its appearance becomes noticeable.
With these thoughts of thanksgiving, community, and unity as a gift of the Holy Spirit, we announce to you our dear spiritual children the forthcoming 2019, the year in which we will celebrate a great jubilee of our Church – eight hundred years of receiving autocephaly. According to the testimonies of Domentian and Theodosius, who “in different words say the same thing,” the consecration of St. Sava as the first Serbian archbishop, and the obtaining the independence of the Serbian Orthodox Church, took place in Nicaea in 1219 thanks to the love and understanding of the Byzantine Emperor Theodore I Laskaris and the then Patriarch Manuel I Charitopoulos Sarantenos. It is clear that St. Sava accepted this spiritual struggle, the attaining of autocephaly, out of care of his people, overcoming selfishness, with the desire to bring together the disunited Christians of the Serbian state and to truly unite them in the Holy Liturgy.
In other words, he labored in order to give an opportunity to our ancestors and to all of us to truly be united in the Gospel of Christ, in His Church, in which all people and all nations as God’s children unite to partake in the life of the Holy Trinity in one common Liturgy as a foretaste of the Heavenly Kingdom. Having received the title “archbishop of Serbia and the coastlands”, St. Sava began his archpastoral ministry in the Church of our Savior, in the monastery of Zicha, striving to, as Domentian says: “feed the Christ-loving souls with spiritual food for their souls through sermons and spiritual words.” Having Christ within himself and all spiritual gifts, he “gave forth the spring of theology to all.” During the time of Arsenije of Srem, the successor of St. Sava, the See of the Serbian Church was moved to Pec, located deeper in the country. Here, from the Patriarchate of Pec, for eight centuries, the Serbian Church has proclaimed the holy and good news of the Gospel about the new-born Divine Child, Who comes into the world to save the world and man with His redeeming work.
Our ancestors have attested to the truth of both heaven and earth that the Lord first loved the world, and that we are called to respond to that love with Christian living, by showing us that in this history, and this world, the battle for the Heavenly Kingdom is always being fought. They have confirmed us in the faith that through ascetic struggle we enter eternal life. Inasmuch as we approach life this way, there is no separation between the Heavenly kingdom and earthly kingdom, for there exists only one history, one creation of God, one Kingdom, one economy of God’s Providence and of our salvation. In other words, we enlighten the history in which we live, the earthly kingdom with the Heavenly Kingdom so that we, at the same time, fight for God’s justice and God’s Kingdom, while everything else, according to Christ’s words, will be added (St. Matthew 6:33; St. Luke 12:31) in this world and in this age.
Fighting for God’s justice and for the Heavenly Kingdom, and enlightening the earthly kingdom with the Heavenly Kingdom, we are called to show special care toward our brothers and sisters in Kosovo and Metohija. We daily hear of “progress and development of human society” and about “special care for human rights.” But while we and nations around us have rights concerning certain life choices, for our brothers in Kosovo and Metohija those basic rights of life worthy of human beings are being taken away. That is why we think that one of the vital preconditions for the solution of the Kosovo and Metohija problem is the building of a society founded on enforcement of rights where people of various backgrounds can live in peace with full protection and respect for everyone’s religious, cultural and national identity. To speak about a lasting solution of the Kosovo and Metohija problem without consideration of these preconditions would mean to accept the war and post-war ethnic cleansing and theft as an accomplished fact and to throw away all the values upon which, at least in principle, Christian Europe as well as the entire world is founded.
We seek the respect of one of the basic Christian principles: “Whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them.” (St. Matthew 7:12) Everything that we demand for our brothers and sisters in Kosovo and Metohija, we are ready to offer and give to all peoples living either in Kosovo and Metohija or in other parts of the Republic of Serbia. But this freedom for the Serbian people and all other peoples is not possible in the self-proclaimed illicit state of Kosovo! This is best attested by the events of our days: the barbarian deprivation of food, medicine and other items essential for life from the Serbian people by enforcement of notorious “taxes”, constant threats, arrests and much more. The most recent is the establishment of the so-called “Kosovo military” with the goal of continued terrorization and final expulsion of all Serbs, those south of the Ibar river as well as those north of that Serbian river. Once again, we emphasize that the question of Kosovo and Metohija, among other things, is a question of the survival of our people, clergy, monastics, and especially of our ancient holy places, without which we would not be who we are today.
Our holy churches are not only cultural-historical monuments, but their existence has deep meaning, foremost as places of liturgical gathering of our people, not only those from Kosovo and Metohija, but from all regions of Serbia and the world, wherever Serbs live. In the hope that the joy of our new-born Divine Child will help us to together find a way and come out of the helplessness caused by sin (Rom. 7:20), we greet our brothers and sisters in Kosovo and Metohija in their efforts to survive and remain on the Serbian promised land, with the words that Christ gives to his followers throughout the centuries: “Do not fear, little flock!” (St. Luke 12:32) “For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world – our faith.” (I John 5:4)
At the same time, we remain in the hope that those responsible for the difficult situation of our people will also be enlightened by the light of Christ’s Birth, so that they too may understand the depth of the sin they commit, not only towards us and our brothers and sisters, but towards themselves and their future generations. Perhaps they will remember the words of the wise Solomon: “When a righteous man dies, his hope does not perish, but the boast of the ungodly perishes.” (Proverbs 11:6)
With pastoral care and responsibility, we call on our brothers and sisters in Macedonia, who are in schism, to understand in the spirit of Christ's love that autocephaly is exclusively a church institution, and that it needs to contribute to the advancement and confirmation of unity among the local Orthodox Churches. In that cause the Serbian Orthodox Church has striven and labored over these last eight centuries. If, in accordance with the logic of this world, autocephaly is understood in any other way, as an element of a state’s sovereignty, national individuality or separateness, then it does not contribute to the unity and building up of the Church, but it rather invites self-sufficiency and living in isolation, and it becomes, paradoxically, a sin against the Holy Spirit.
We send the same message to those who speak of a so-called “Montenegrin Church”, who remain blind with their eyes for they do not see the ancient Metropolitanate of Montenegro and the Coastlands. They are forgetting that salvation is not conditioned upon a claim of who is Serbian and who is Montenegrin. The temptation is the same in our very close and brotherly Ukraine, where the passion filled chauvinist-Russophobes, led by corrupt politicians with the assistance of Uniates and, unfortunately, with the uncanonical cooperation of the Ecumenical Patriarchate, deepened and spread the existing schism and seriously jeopardized the unity of Orthodoxy in general. Christ did not come only to save the Hebrew people, even though they were chosen by God to prepare all peoples for the coming of the Messiah, He came as the Savior of all nations, regardless of their name (Rom. 10:12) and regardless of how what they call themselves in different eras.
We can only experience together the joy of the gift of salvation, for which we must give thanks, through mutual forgiveness and reconciliation. Having this in mind and with deep sorrow and sadness for the Serbian people and all other victims of the unfortunate wars on the territories of Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Serbia, we pray to the new-born Divine Child, the Giver of every peace, that peace may finally enter into our hearts and that we may forgive each other as the Lord forgave us our sins. (II Cor. 5:18) The only way to free us from slavery to the past and daily political interests is forgiveness and reconciliation, to which we call all peoples with whom we once lived in a single statе.
We especially address our children in diaspora, from America to Asia, from Europe to Australia, calling upon them to always show love in action in every place and towards everyone. Be merciful, do not judge, forgive, help each other (St. Luke 6:37-38) and always have in mind the words of Christ: “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.” (St. Matthew 7:21) Be conscious and responsible citizens of countries that afforded you homes, pray for cities where you live, for in their good it will be good to you as well (Heb. 29:7), but do not forget your faith, language and fatherland, the country of your ancestors, soaked with the blood of martyrs.
We call on you all, our dear spiritual children, for mutual understanding, love and forgiveness. Let us guard ourselves from heavy and carelessly spoken words, keeping in mind that we create with our words the social surroundings in which we live. Mild words heal, rude words hurt, and wounds caused by words are often greater than physical wounds. That is why the wise Solomon teaches us that death and life are in the power of language. (Proverbs 18:21) If we see that our neighbor inflicts injustice upon us, let us act according to the Gospel’s principles, let us talk to him doing everything within our power to gain our brother. (St. Matthew 18:15) Let us forgive each other seventy times seven (St. Matthew 18:22), and in the judgments which we bring towards others, let us be guided with the truth, which we must explain mildly with respect and good conscience. (II Cor. 4:2)
Giving thanks to the Lord for this day in which, according to the words of Romanos the Melodist, “The Virgin gives birth to the Transcendent One, and the earth offers a cave to the Unapproachable one! Angels with shepherds glorify Him! The wise men journey with a star! Since for our sake the Eternal God was born as a little Child”, we herald to the world this great joy and greet all of you with the all-joyous Nativity greeting:
PEACE FROM GOD - CHRIST IS BORN! A HAPPY AND BLESSED NEW YEAR OF OUR LORD, 2019!
(Chi)
Very juvenile comment Qi. I see you're avoiding the real debate and perpetrating the "dishonorable treacherous Serb" image we all have.
(Genti, 10 January 2019 01:26)
Chi)
I'm not worried kid, just stating the obvious. You called Albanians extremist Muslims and have no fear of repercussions from a greater power all within the same paragraph?! LOL. You can't even keep track of your lies, let alone be trustworthy.
Albanian sense of honor and "besa" are the scope of legends, the only thing that comes close to it in the world are the samurai honor codes in Japan. Whereas in Serbia lying is a source of national pride. We have learned to deal with you over the centuries though and are able to feed you the same medicine you give to others.
If you want to be treated fairly, maybe you should start treating others fairly. It's actually part of Christian values that you claim to have.
(Genti, 9 January 2019 15:18
LOL Gentiaj, now the Albanians are taking credit for the Samurai Honor code - pretty sure you taught them how to use swords an other fighting techniques. I'm assuming when you were in that part of the world, you might of gave the Ninjas a few lessons. I know it is well documented the the Albanians taught the Spartans and Romans, but man, it must of been a long trip, back in the day, to Asia. Oh, wait a minute, you must be indigenous to China and Japan as well. Is there nothing you won't try to steal or take credit for??? This might be your most hilarious post to date!!!
(Chi, 9 January 2019 16:56)
(Chi)
I'm not worried kid, just stating the obvious. You called Albanians extremist Muslims and have no fear of repercussions from a greater power all within the same paragraph?! LOL. You can't even keep track of your lies, let alone be trustworthy.
Albanian sense of honor and "besa" are the scope of legends, the only thing that comes close to it in the world are the samurai honor codes in Japan. Whereas in Serbia lying is a source of national pride. We have learned to deal with you over the centuries though and are able to feed you the same medicine you give to others.
If you want to be treated fairly, maybe you should start treating others fairly. It's actually part of Christian values that you claim to have.
(Genti, 9 January 2019 15:18)
Qi, you could have taken the day off for Christmas and spent it with your family, but you came here instead to comment. You're addicted to this dude, it's not our fault ;)
And please cut the religious BS, most Albanians don't care about religion. I celebrated my Christmas on December 24th, you can celebrate it in January or July, I don't care. We have our extremists, but they live like rats constantly being monitored and questioned by the police. We don't put our extremists in the head of our church like you.
You're being brainwashed by your so-called "Christian church". Your "holy patriarch" is adding extremist radical messages to a Christian liturgy. His statements about a "holy land" and "promised land of Kosovo" have nothing to do with Christianity, they're straight from Milloshevic's ideology.
(Genti, 8 January 2019 14:22)
Genti, there's no need for you to worry how and when I celebrate my holidays. However, the fact that you are pagan people, for the most part, is the reason you can't be trusted. You lie, break agreement , steal because you have no fear of repercussions from a greater power. Furthermore, Albanians are mostly Muslim, even though you try to deflect the truth, and want to disassociate from Islam because global negativity....
(Chi, 8 January 2019 15:36)
Qi, you could have taken the day off for Christmas and spent it with your family, but you came here instead to comment. You're addicted to this dude, it's not our fault ;)
And please cut the religious BS, most Albanians don't care about religion. I celebrated my Christmas on December 24th, you can celebrate it in January or July, I don't care. We have our extremists, but they live like rats constantly being monitored and questioned by the police. We don't put our extremists in the head of our church like you.
You're being brainwashed by your so-called "Christian church". Your "holy patriarch" is adding extremist radical messages to a Christian liturgy. His statements about a "holy land" and "promised land of Kosovo" have nothing to do with Christianity, they're straight from Milloshevic's ideology.
(Genti, 8 January 2019 14:22)
The magic “booga booga” father weighs in... the morons follow. Amen.
(vari teneqen, 6 January 2019 22:48)
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No, the morons write this sort of rubbish.
(Peggy, 7 January 2019 23:56)
Don't protest too strongly. If they weren't here to write their wild comments, who would you have fun sparring with? :) Merry Christmas!
(JS, 7 January 2019 20:54)
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Have you considered that "sparring" with Albanians is not what we want here.
They should take their hate and venom to their own site where everyone will welcome it.
(Peggy, 7 January 2019 23:53)
So religion is still the opium of the Serbian peasantry. Haven’t you heard, that God doesn’t exist because you yourselves don’t believe in it anymore ? Enjoy the holiday but tell the goat-looking man to know his place in the theatre ... it’s only the stage. Let the rest of the work to us atheists. (vari teneqen, 7 January 2019 18:04)
I'm proud to be a Serbian peasant. But in case you haven't noticed, atheism is not all that the major figures of the movement claimed. You're still the minority and your arguments are weak, in case you didn't notice. You are welcome to come learn from us Serbian peasants. Our doors are always open! ;)
(JS, 7 January 2019 21:53)
So the crystal ball father says that the person in the ball has awarded the land to his flock. Next, the flock will get on flying carpets and move to the promise land ... to the beat of Osman Aga.
(123viç, 7 January 2019 21:34)
"Except for now... because you people have a way of irritating your neighbors, and the rest of the world. Scum of the earth.... can't leave a religious holiday alone." (Chi, 7 January 2019 14:43)
Don't protest too strongly. If they weren't here to write their wild comments, who would you have fun sparring with? :) Merry Christmas!
(JS, 7 January 2019 20:54)
So religion is still the opium of the Serbian peasantry. Haven’t you heard, that God doesn’t exist because you yourselves don’t believe in it anymore ? Enjoy the holiday but tell the goat-looking man to know his place in the theatre ... it’s only the stage. Let the rest of the work to us atheists.
(vari teneqen, 7 January 2019 18:04)
This POPE should understand that his job is to be a priest. He wants to become a politician then he will face the ups and downs of politics. What will he say if Kosova government declares that orthodox church of Kosova be independent from Serbia. So in my opinion Pope take care churches problems or you will be left with nothing to lead. you will be unemployed.
(ari, 6 January 2019 11:24)
Ari, what does the Pope have to do with Orthodoxy??? Pray tell....
(Chi, 7 January 2019 17:45)
These comments are rich coming from Extremist Muslims, and you are Extremists - don't forget that you have the most ISIS members out of Europe. SO, you guys are busting out the Patriarch, but yet your clergy promotes blowing up malls, buses, etc... give me a break, you people are disgusting. You don't see the Serbs on this site ripping your religion - we might make reference to it, but never anything negative. Except for now... because you people have a way of irritating your neighbors, and the rest of the world. Scum of the earth.... can't leave a religious holiday alone.
(Chi, 7 January 2019 14:43)
What will he say if Kosova government declares that orthodox church of Kosova be independent from Serbia. So in my opinion Pope take care churches problems or you will be left with nothing to lead. you will be unemployed.
(ari, 6 January 2019 11:24)
You are so clueless its heart breaking LOL. Love the part of orthodox church of Kosova LOL.
(sj, 7 January 2019 09:03)
So in my opinion Pope take care churches problems or you will be left with nothing to lead. you will be unemployed.
(ari, 6 January 2019 11:24)
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What has this article got to do with the Pope?
If you are talking about the patriarch you can stop with the threats. There is nothing you can do about his employment.
(Peggy, 7 January 2019 01:02)
This is almost as funny as the Europeans in Palestine who pretend to be Semites in order to take other people's land because some “Pie In The Sky God” promised it to them, two thousand years ago LOL.
(Guest, 6 January 2019 23:53)
The message starts off very well. The reference to an "ethos of extreme self-sufficiency which we see today" is timely. But by the latter half of the message, it has run completely off track. The political commentary has no place in Christian preaching. He hypocritically celebrates 800 years of Serbian autocephalacy but denies it to Ukrainians, Macedonians, and Montenegrins, and defends his position with terms very unfitting for a Christian sermon. And Kosovo really has nothing to do the birth of Christ. But not too surprising for a teacher of heresy.
(JS, 6 January 2019 22:53)
Mr Irney remind you Mrs Trajkoviq said "I'm 100 times better in Pristina than in north Mitrovica" this is "ALL PEACE" you are talking about and Mr Vucic as well Serbians are suffering in Kosova unimaginable prosecutions only if they live side by side with Albanians. I find it very sad in 2019?!
(agRONio, 6 January 2019 22:32)
In a country, when a Religion get involved in politics there is a big pig issue for that country, typically Orthodox and Islamist states. For Albanians the nation is first for the religious states it is the religion.
(EA, 6 January 2019 20:05)
Half of the Serbians of Serbia and Kosovo are Assimilated Albanians, this happens from 1987 up to now. From today’s territory of Serbia (formerly Albanian territory), a large part of Albanians were forced to move to Kosovo and Turkey, while the remaining part was forced to be assimilated. All those Albanians who had accepted Muslim religion were assimilated by turning to Bosnians or as they called themselves Boshnjak, such as Sanxhaku of Novipazar. All Albanians who had Orthodox religion to live in their lands were forced to convert to Serbs and were forced to make mixed marriages with Serbs. The same thing happened in Montenegro, those who today call themselves Montenegrins are nothing else besides Albanian-Malësor.
In the territory of Novipazar, before the 1980s, there were still old generations who spoke in Albanian and now the assimilation has become so much that the youth do not feel Albanian but Muslim. As for Albanians stretching from the eastern border of Kosovo, the assimilation was brutal and premature, there are individuals who know this but who keep it in the heart without daring to show it, it can be proven by anyone who goes and talks secretly with the elderly people. The same phenomenon has happened with Orthodox Albanians who have been assimilated into Macedonians, while few are those who have begun to emerge openly for their origins.
(Shpresim, 6 January 2019 14:56)
This POPE should understand that his job is to be a priest. He wants to become a politician then he will face the ups and downs of politics. What will he say if Kosova government declares that orthodox church of Kosova be independent from Serbia. So in my opinion Pope take care churches problems or you will be left with nothing to lead. you will be unemployed.
(ari, 6 January 2019 11:24)
"our brothers and sisters in Kosovo and Metohija in their efforts to survive and remain on the Serbian promised land"
"Serbian promised land"?? I know the Christian bible doesn't mention any promised land for the Serbs, nor does it mention any "Serbs", who converted to Christianity 10 centuries years after Christ. So which god gave Kosovo to the Serbs as a "promised land"? Was it the bear god of the ancient Siberians? Was it written in the holy manure scriptures on the mud huts where "ancient Serbs" were living?
And this chief manipulator "patriarch" calls himself a Christian?? This Serbian witch doctor still has not answered why his "Serbian holy sites" in Kosovo were built centuries before Serbs settled in Kosovo.
"Everything that we demand for our brothers and sisters in Kosovo and Metohija, we are ready to offer and give to all peoples living either in Kosovo and Metohija or in other parts of the Republic of Serbia."
If this "Christian church" truly believes that, then why doesn't the patriarch ask the Serbian government to make Albanian an official language in all of Serbia, give veto rights to Albanians in Serbia's parliament and also change Serbia's flag to please the Albanian minority in Presheva? These are all the rights the Serbian minority has in Kosovo, why doesn't Serbia give these same rights to its Albanian minority?
(Genti, 5 January 2019 16:06)
"our brothers and sisters in Kosovo and Metohija in their efforts to survive and remain on the Serbian promised land"
"Serbian promised land"?? I know the Christian bible doesn't mention any promised land for the Serbs, nor does it mention any "Serbs", who converted to Christianity 10 centuries years after Christ. So which god gave Kosovo to the Serbs as a "promised land"? Was it the bear god of the ancient Siberians? Was it written in the holy manure scriptures on the mud huts where "ancient Serbs" were living?
And this chief manipulator "patriarch" calls himself a Christian?? This Serbian witch doctor still has not answered why his "Serbian holy sites" in Kosovo were built centuries before Serbs settled in Kosovo.
"Everything that we demand for our brothers and sisters in Kosovo and Metohija, we are ready to offer and give to all peoples living either in Kosovo and Metohija or in other parts of the Republic of Serbia."
If this "Christian church" truly believes that, then why doesn't the patriarch ask the Serbian government to make Albanian an official language in all of Serbia, give veto rights to Albanians in Serbia's parliament and also change Serbia's flag to please the Albanian minority in Presheva? These are all the rights the Serbian minority has in Kosovo, why doesn't Serbia give these same rights to its Albanian minority?
(Genti, 5 January 2019 16:06)
This POPE should understand that his job is to be a priest. He wants to become a politician then he will face the ups and downs of politics. What will he say if Kosova government declares that orthodox church of Kosova be independent from Serbia. So in my opinion Pope take care churches problems or you will be left with nothing to lead. you will be unemployed.
(ari, 6 January 2019 11:24)
What will he say if Kosova government declares that orthodox church of Kosova be independent from Serbia. So in my opinion Pope take care churches problems or you will be left with nothing to lead. you will be unemployed.
(ari, 6 January 2019 11:24)
You are so clueless its heart breaking LOL. Love the part of orthodox church of Kosova LOL.
(sj, 7 January 2019 09:03)
These comments are rich coming from Extremist Muslims, and you are Extremists - don't forget that you have the most ISIS members out of Europe. SO, you guys are busting out the Patriarch, but yet your clergy promotes blowing up malls, buses, etc... give me a break, you people are disgusting. You don't see the Serbs on this site ripping your religion - we might make reference to it, but never anything negative. Except for now... because you people have a way of irritating your neighbors, and the rest of the world. Scum of the earth.... can't leave a religious holiday alone.
(Chi, 7 January 2019 14:43)
So in my opinion Pope take care churches problems or you will be left with nothing to lead. you will be unemployed.
(ari, 6 January 2019 11:24)
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What has this article got to do with the Pope?
If you are talking about the patriarch you can stop with the threats. There is nothing you can do about his employment.
(Peggy, 7 January 2019 01:02)
The message starts off very well. The reference to an "ethos of extreme self-sufficiency which we see today" is timely. But by the latter half of the message, it has run completely off track. The political commentary has no place in Christian preaching. He hypocritically celebrates 800 years of Serbian autocephalacy but denies it to Ukrainians, Macedonians, and Montenegrins, and defends his position with terms very unfitting for a Christian sermon. And Kosovo really has nothing to do the birth of Christ. But not too surprising for a teacher of heresy.
(JS, 6 January 2019 22:53)
Half of the Serbians of Serbia and Kosovo are Assimilated Albanians, this happens from 1987 up to now. From today’s territory of Serbia (formerly Albanian territory), a large part of Albanians were forced to move to Kosovo and Turkey, while the remaining part was forced to be assimilated. All those Albanians who had accepted Muslim religion were assimilated by turning to Bosnians or as they called themselves Boshnjak, such as Sanxhaku of Novipazar. All Albanians who had Orthodox religion to live in their lands were forced to convert to Serbs and were forced to make mixed marriages with Serbs. The same thing happened in Montenegro, those who today call themselves Montenegrins are nothing else besides Albanian-Malësor.
In the territory of Novipazar, before the 1980s, there were still old generations who spoke in Albanian and now the assimilation has become so much that the youth do not feel Albanian but Muslim. As for Albanians stretching from the eastern border of Kosovo, the assimilation was brutal and premature, there are individuals who know this but who keep it in the heart without daring to show it, it can be proven by anyone who goes and talks secretly with the elderly people. The same phenomenon has happened with Orthodox Albanians who have been assimilated into Macedonians, while few are those who have begun to emerge openly for their origins.
(Shpresim, 6 January 2019 14:56)
This is almost as funny as the Europeans in Palestine who pretend to be Semites in order to take other people's land because some “Pie In The Sky God” promised it to them, two thousand years ago LOL.
(Guest, 6 January 2019 23:53)
This POPE should understand that his job is to be a priest. He wants to become a politician then he will face the ups and downs of politics. What will he say if Kosova government declares that orthodox church of Kosova be independent from Serbia. So in my opinion Pope take care churches problems or you will be left with nothing to lead. you will be unemployed.
(ari, 6 January 2019 11:24)
Ari, what does the Pope have to do with Orthodoxy??? Pray tell....
(Chi, 7 January 2019 17:45)
Qi, you could have taken the day off for Christmas and spent it with your family, but you came here instead to comment. You're addicted to this dude, it's not our fault ;)
And please cut the religious BS, most Albanians don't care about religion. I celebrated my Christmas on December 24th, you can celebrate it in January or July, I don't care. We have our extremists, but they live like rats constantly being monitored and questioned by the police. We don't put our extremists in the head of our church like you.
You're being brainwashed by your so-called "Christian church". Your "holy patriarch" is adding extremist radical messages to a Christian liturgy. His statements about a "holy land" and "promised land of Kosovo" have nothing to do with Christianity, they're straight from Milloshevic's ideology.
(Genti, 8 January 2019 14:22)
In a country, when a Religion get involved in politics there is a big pig issue for that country, typically Orthodox and Islamist states. For Albanians the nation is first for the religious states it is the religion.
(EA, 6 January 2019 20:05)
Don't protest too strongly. If they weren't here to write their wild comments, who would you have fun sparring with? :) Merry Christmas!
(JS, 7 January 2019 20:54)
===…==
Have you considered that "sparring" with Albanians is not what we want here.
They should take their hate and venom to their own site where everyone will welcome it.
(Peggy, 7 January 2019 23:53)
The magic “booga booga” father weighs in... the morons follow. Amen.
(vari teneqen, 6 January 2019 22:48)
===…==
No, the morons write this sort of rubbish.
(Peggy, 7 January 2019 23:56)
Qi, you could have taken the day off for Christmas and spent it with your family, but you came here instead to comment. You're addicted to this dude, it's not our fault ;)
And please cut the religious BS, most Albanians don't care about religion. I celebrated my Christmas on December 24th, you can celebrate it in January or July, I don't care. We have our extremists, but they live like rats constantly being monitored and questioned by the police. We don't put our extremists in the head of our church like you.
You're being brainwashed by your so-called "Christian church". Your "holy patriarch" is adding extremist radical messages to a Christian liturgy. His statements about a "holy land" and "promised land of Kosovo" have nothing to do with Christianity, they're straight from Milloshevic's ideology.
(Genti, 8 January 2019 14:22)
Genti, there's no need for you to worry how and when I celebrate my holidays. However, the fact that you are pagan people, for the most part, is the reason you can't be trusted. You lie, break agreement , steal because you have no fear of repercussions from a greater power. Furthermore, Albanians are mostly Muslim, even though you try to deflect the truth, and want to disassociate from Islam because global negativity....
(Chi, 8 January 2019 15:36)
Chi)
I'm not worried kid, just stating the obvious. You called Albanians extremist Muslims and have no fear of repercussions from a greater power all within the same paragraph?! LOL. You can't even keep track of your lies, let alone be trustworthy.
Albanian sense of honor and "besa" are the scope of legends, the only thing that comes close to it in the world are the samurai honor codes in Japan. Whereas in Serbia lying is a source of national pride. We have learned to deal with you over the centuries though and are able to feed you the same medicine you give to others.
If you want to be treated fairly, maybe you should start treating others fairly. It's actually part of Christian values that you claim to have.
(Genti, 9 January 2019 15:18
LOL Gentiaj, now the Albanians are taking credit for the Samurai Honor code - pretty sure you taught them how to use swords an other fighting techniques. I'm assuming when you were in that part of the world, you might of gave the Ninjas a few lessons. I know it is well documented the the Albanians taught the Spartans and Romans, but man, it must of been a long trip, back in the day, to Asia. Oh, wait a minute, you must be indigenous to China and Japan as well. Is there nothing you won't try to steal or take credit for??? This might be your most hilarious post to date!!!
(Chi, 9 January 2019 16:56)
(Chi)
I'm not worried kid, just stating the obvious. You called Albanians extremist Muslims and have no fear of repercussions from a greater power all within the same paragraph?! LOL. You can't even keep track of your lies, let alone be trustworthy.
Albanian sense of honor and "besa" are the scope of legends, the only thing that comes close to it in the world are the samurai honor codes in Japan. Whereas in Serbia lying is a source of national pride. We have learned to deal with you over the centuries though and are able to feed you the same medicine you give to others.
If you want to be treated fairly, maybe you should start treating others fairly. It's actually part of Christian values that you claim to have.
(Genti, 9 January 2019 15:18)
"Except for now... because you people have a way of irritating your neighbors, and the rest of the world. Scum of the earth.... can't leave a religious holiday alone." (Chi, 7 January 2019 14:43)
Don't protest too strongly. If they weren't here to write their wild comments, who would you have fun sparring with? :) Merry Christmas!
(JS, 7 January 2019 20:54)
So religion is still the opium of the Serbian peasantry. Haven’t you heard, that God doesn’t exist because you yourselves don’t believe in it anymore ? Enjoy the holiday but tell the goat-looking man to know his place in the theatre ... it’s only the stage. Let the rest of the work to us atheists. (vari teneqen, 7 January 2019 18:04)
I'm proud to be a Serbian peasant. But in case you haven't noticed, atheism is not all that the major figures of the movement claimed. You're still the minority and your arguments are weak, in case you didn't notice. You are welcome to come learn from us Serbian peasants. Our doors are always open! ;)
(JS, 7 January 2019 21:53)
(Chi)
Very juvenile comment Qi. I see you're avoiding the real debate and perpetrating the "dishonorable treacherous Serb" image we all have.
(Genti, 10 January 2019 01:26)
Mr Irney remind you Mrs Trajkoviq said "I'm 100 times better in Pristina than in north Mitrovica" this is "ALL PEACE" you are talking about and Mr Vucic as well Serbians are suffering in Kosova unimaginable prosecutions only if they live side by side with Albanians. I find it very sad in 2019?!
(agRONio, 6 January 2019 22:32)
So religion is still the opium of the Serbian peasantry. Haven’t you heard, that God doesn’t exist because you yourselves don’t believe in it anymore ? Enjoy the holiday but tell the goat-looking man to know his place in the theatre ... it’s only the stage. Let the rest of the work to us atheists.
(vari teneqen, 7 January 2019 18:04)
So the crystal ball father says that the person in the ball has awarded the land to his flock. Next, the flock will get on flying carpets and move to the promise land ... to the beat of Osman Aga.
(123viç, 7 January 2019 21:34)
"our brothers and sisters in Kosovo and Metohija in their efforts to survive and remain on the Serbian promised land"
"Serbian promised land"?? I know the Christian bible doesn't mention any promised land for the Serbs, nor does it mention any "Serbs", who converted to Christianity 10 centuries years after Christ. So which god gave Kosovo to the Serbs as a "promised land"? Was it the bear god of the ancient Siberians? Was it written in the holy manure scriptures on the mud huts where "ancient Serbs" were living?
And this chief manipulator "patriarch" calls himself a Christian?? This Serbian witch doctor still has not answered why his "Serbian holy sites" in Kosovo were built centuries before Serbs settled in Kosovo.
"Everything that we demand for our brothers and sisters in Kosovo and Metohija, we are ready to offer and give to all peoples living either in Kosovo and Metohija or in other parts of the Republic of Serbia."
If this "Christian church" truly believes that, then why doesn't the patriarch ask the Serbian government to make Albanian an official language in all of Serbia, give veto rights to Albanians in Serbia's parliament and also change Serbia's flag to please the Albanian minority in Presheva? These are all the rights the Serbian minority has in Kosovo, why doesn't Serbia give these same rights to its Albanian minority?
(Genti, 5 January 2019 16:06)
This POPE should understand that his job is to be a priest. He wants to become a politician then he will face the ups and downs of politics. What will he say if Kosova government declares that orthodox church of Kosova be independent from Serbia. So in my opinion Pope take care churches problems or you will be left with nothing to lead. you will be unemployed.
(ari, 6 January 2019 11:24)
Half of the Serbians of Serbia and Kosovo are Assimilated Albanians, this happens from 1987 up to now. From today’s territory of Serbia (formerly Albanian territory), a large part of Albanians were forced to move to Kosovo and Turkey, while the remaining part was forced to be assimilated. All those Albanians who had accepted Muslim religion were assimilated by turning to Bosnians or as they called themselves Boshnjak, such as Sanxhaku of Novipazar. All Albanians who had Orthodox religion to live in their lands were forced to convert to Serbs and were forced to make mixed marriages with Serbs. The same thing happened in Montenegro, those who today call themselves Montenegrins are nothing else besides Albanian-Malësor.
In the territory of Novipazar, before the 1980s, there were still old generations who spoke in Albanian and now the assimilation has become so much that the youth do not feel Albanian but Muslim. As for Albanians stretching from the eastern border of Kosovo, the assimilation was brutal and premature, there are individuals who know this but who keep it in the heart without daring to show it, it can be proven by anyone who goes and talks secretly with the elderly people. The same phenomenon has happened with Orthodox Albanians who have been assimilated into Macedonians, while few are those who have begun to emerge openly for their origins.
(Shpresim, 6 January 2019 14:56)
"Except for now... because you people have a way of irritating your neighbors, and the rest of the world. Scum of the earth.... can't leave a religious holiday alone." (Chi, 7 January 2019 14:43)
Don't protest too strongly. If they weren't here to write their wild comments, who would you have fun sparring with? :) Merry Christmas!
(JS, 7 January 2019 20:54)
So religion is still the opium of the Serbian peasantry. Haven’t you heard, that God doesn’t exist because you yourselves don’t believe in it anymore ? Enjoy the holiday but tell the goat-looking man to know his place in the theatre ... it’s only the stage. Let the rest of the work to us atheists.
(vari teneqen, 7 January 2019 18:04)
The message starts off very well. The reference to an "ethos of extreme self-sufficiency which we see today" is timely. But by the latter half of the message, it has run completely off track. The political commentary has no place in Christian preaching. He hypocritically celebrates 800 years of Serbian autocephalacy but denies it to Ukrainians, Macedonians, and Montenegrins, and defends his position with terms very unfitting for a Christian sermon. And Kosovo really has nothing to do the birth of Christ. But not too surprising for a teacher of heresy.
(JS, 6 January 2019 22:53)
What will he say if Kosova government declares that orthodox church of Kosova be independent from Serbia. So in my opinion Pope take care churches problems or you will be left with nothing to lead. you will be unemployed.
(ari, 6 January 2019 11:24)
You are so clueless its heart breaking LOL. Love the part of orthodox church of Kosova LOL.
(sj, 7 January 2019 09:03)
In a country, when a Religion get involved in politics there is a big pig issue for that country, typically Orthodox and Islamist states. For Albanians the nation is first for the religious states it is the religion.
(EA, 6 January 2019 20:05)
Mr Irney remind you Mrs Trajkoviq said "I'm 100 times better in Pristina than in north Mitrovica" this is "ALL PEACE" you are talking about and Mr Vucic as well Serbians are suffering in Kosova unimaginable prosecutions only if they live side by side with Albanians. I find it very sad in 2019?!
(agRONio, 6 January 2019 22:32)
This POPE should understand that his job is to be a priest. He wants to become a politician then he will face the ups and downs of politics. What will he say if Kosova government declares that orthodox church of Kosova be independent from Serbia. So in my opinion Pope take care churches problems or you will be left with nothing to lead. you will be unemployed.
(ari, 6 January 2019 11:24)
Ari, what does the Pope have to do with Orthodoxy??? Pray tell....
(Chi, 7 January 2019 17:45)
So in my opinion Pope take care churches problems or you will be left with nothing to lead. you will be unemployed.
(ari, 6 January 2019 11:24)
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What has this article got to do with the Pope?
If you are talking about the patriarch you can stop with the threats. There is nothing you can do about his employment.
(Peggy, 7 January 2019 01:02)
So religion is still the opium of the Serbian peasantry. Haven’t you heard, that God doesn’t exist because you yourselves don’t believe in it anymore ? Enjoy the holiday but tell the goat-looking man to know his place in the theatre ... it’s only the stage. Let the rest of the work to us atheists. (vari teneqen, 7 January 2019 18:04)
I'm proud to be a Serbian peasant. But in case you haven't noticed, atheism is not all that the major figures of the movement claimed. You're still the minority and your arguments are weak, in case you didn't notice. You are welcome to come learn from us Serbian peasants. Our doors are always open! ;)
(JS, 7 January 2019 21:53)
Qi, you could have taken the day off for Christmas and spent it with your family, but you came here instead to comment. You're addicted to this dude, it's not our fault ;)
And please cut the religious BS, most Albanians don't care about religion. I celebrated my Christmas on December 24th, you can celebrate it in January or July, I don't care. We have our extremists, but they live like rats constantly being monitored and questioned by the police. We don't put our extremists in the head of our church like you.
You're being brainwashed by your so-called "Christian church". Your "holy patriarch" is adding extremist radical messages to a Christian liturgy. His statements about a "holy land" and "promised land of Kosovo" have nothing to do with Christianity, they're straight from Milloshevic's ideology.
(Genti, 8 January 2019 14:22)
Genti, there's no need for you to worry how and when I celebrate my holidays. However, the fact that you are pagan people, for the most part, is the reason you can't be trusted. You lie, break agreement , steal because you have no fear of repercussions from a greater power. Furthermore, Albanians are mostly Muslim, even though you try to deflect the truth, and want to disassociate from Islam because global negativity....
(Chi, 8 January 2019 15:36)
This is almost as funny as the Europeans in Palestine who pretend to be Semites in order to take other people's land because some “Pie In The Sky God” promised it to them, two thousand years ago LOL.
(Guest, 6 January 2019 23:53)
These comments are rich coming from Extremist Muslims, and you are Extremists - don't forget that you have the most ISIS members out of Europe. SO, you guys are busting out the Patriarch, but yet your clergy promotes blowing up malls, buses, etc... give me a break, you people are disgusting. You don't see the Serbs on this site ripping your religion - we might make reference to it, but never anything negative. Except for now... because you people have a way of irritating your neighbors, and the rest of the world. Scum of the earth.... can't leave a religious holiday alone.
(Chi, 7 January 2019 14:43)
Don't protest too strongly. If they weren't here to write their wild comments, who would you have fun sparring with? :) Merry Christmas!
(JS, 7 January 2019 20:54)
===…==
Have you considered that "sparring" with Albanians is not what we want here.
They should take their hate and venom to their own site where everyone will welcome it.
(Peggy, 7 January 2019 23:53)
So the crystal ball father says that the person in the ball has awarded the land to his flock. Next, the flock will get on flying carpets and move to the promise land ... to the beat of Osman Aga.
(123viç, 7 January 2019 21:34)
Qi, you could have taken the day off for Christmas and spent it with your family, but you came here instead to comment. You're addicted to this dude, it's not our fault ;)
And please cut the religious BS, most Albanians don't care about religion. I celebrated my Christmas on December 24th, you can celebrate it in January or July, I don't care. We have our extremists, but they live like rats constantly being monitored and questioned by the police. We don't put our extremists in the head of our church like you.
You're being brainwashed by your so-called "Christian church". Your "holy patriarch" is adding extremist radical messages to a Christian liturgy. His statements about a "holy land" and "promised land of Kosovo" have nothing to do with Christianity, they're straight from Milloshevic's ideology.
(Genti, 8 January 2019 14:22)
Chi)
I'm not worried kid, just stating the obvious. You called Albanians extremist Muslims and have no fear of repercussions from a greater power all within the same paragraph?! LOL. You can't even keep track of your lies, let alone be trustworthy.
Albanian sense of honor and "besa" are the scope of legends, the only thing that comes close to it in the world are the samurai honor codes in Japan. Whereas in Serbia lying is a source of national pride. We have learned to deal with you over the centuries though and are able to feed you the same medicine you give to others.
If you want to be treated fairly, maybe you should start treating others fairly. It's actually part of Christian values that you claim to have.
(Genti, 9 January 2019 15:18
LOL Gentiaj, now the Albanians are taking credit for the Samurai Honor code - pretty sure you taught them how to use swords an other fighting techniques. I'm assuming when you were in that part of the world, you might of gave the Ninjas a few lessons. I know it is well documented the the Albanians taught the Spartans and Romans, but man, it must of been a long trip, back in the day, to Asia. Oh, wait a minute, you must be indigenous to China and Japan as well. Is there nothing you won't try to steal or take credit for??? This might be your most hilarious post to date!!!
(Chi, 9 January 2019 16:56)
(Chi)
Very juvenile comment Qi. I see you're avoiding the real debate and perpetrating the "dishonorable treacherous Serb" image we all have.
(Genti, 10 January 2019 01:26)
The magic “booga booga” father weighs in... the morons follow. Amen.
(vari teneqen, 6 January 2019 22:48)
===…==
No, the morons write this sort of rubbish.
(Peggy, 7 January 2019 23:56)
(Chi)
I'm not worried kid, just stating the obvious. You called Albanians extremist Muslims and have no fear of repercussions from a greater power all within the same paragraph?! LOL. You can't even keep track of your lies, let alone be trustworthy.
Albanian sense of honor and "besa" are the scope of legends, the only thing that comes close to it in the world are the samurai honor codes in Japan. Whereas in Serbia lying is a source of national pride. We have learned to deal with you over the centuries though and are able to feed you the same medicine you give to others.
If you want to be treated fairly, maybe you should start treating others fairly. It's actually part of Christian values that you claim to have.
(Genti, 9 January 2019 15:18)