1. (rote, 20 April 2017 20:13)

    Austrian historians now write that Gavrilo Princip did not start WW1 since war was already on the agenda; he was only an excuse for it.
    The Emperor Franc Josef was keen to attack Serbia. In fact there were plans as early as 1912 to launch war against the Serbs because they feared that slavs could unite under the Serbian banner of a Yugoslavia and that would take away a large part of the Empire. Plus the Austrians were not in favour of Serbs gaining access to the Adriatic Sea because they feared Serbs would give Russia access - sound familiar? London conference of 1912.
    Oddly enough Archduke Ferdinand was opposed to any war. He was in favour of some form of Yugoslavism, but under Zagreb’s control.
    The Austrian plans involved giving southern Serbia, today’s Macedonia to the Bulgarians, parts of northern Serbia to Romania and Hungary while the leftover Austria would keep and not allow it to develop any industry.
    So you see it mattered little whether Princip killed Ferdinand or not because the Austrians would have found another excuse to wage war against the Serbs.
    Interestingly, after the assassination, the Austrians sent a very similar worded document to Belgrade to that we know as the Rambouillet Agreement – total surrender or else. How little things change over the years.
    (sj, 24 April 2017 09:38)

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  2. I sort of like the name Savski Venac. Will they use that name somewhere else? I hope so.
    (Serbina, 24 April 2017 00:23)

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  3. To Dear Brother rote:

    The Blessing of the Graves, I posted it all little while back, hope you read it, if not don't worry.

    So I am getting a little too old now, the old Serbian better stay with in his old past. With my last and dying breath I will tell God that I love you Dear Mother Russia, my true Dear Salvic Mother ! Every Serbian should visit a Russian Eastern Orthodox Church or at least speak with a Russian Eastern Orthodox Priest.

    So Sa Bogom B-92. Sa Bogom Dear rote, God Bless Russia, Srbija and all Eastern Orthodox Christianity in the world !!!
    (Dragoljub Djurkovic, 23 April 2017 19:59)

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  4. Dragoljub Djurkovic : Very bad day for me rote, first time I ever negatively shocked by your words !!!

    I too was shocked by your comment as I believe that everything that is bad for Russia is as a matter of fact bad for Serbia. I know enough about the reasons and the pretexts and the chronology and the statistics of the WW1 where 2 000 000 Russians were killed and it triggered our civil war (+12 000 000) and WW2 (+ 20 600 000) and Perestroika (?) and Perestrelka (?) ... With one revolver Gavrilo destroyed 4 empires and one of them was yours and mine - fuck the 3 others ! The only winner in WW1 was the USA and so was in WW2 and they still call them GOOD WARS ... Those were not our wars, not yours and mine. They were close to start in any case but not in Bosnia or Serbia ! Contradiction of the western empires were so great that the wars would brake in 1914-15 in any case !!!!!! Princip and Co (whatever indealists they could be!) have brought the two severe WWs to our court yards ! They have no excuse ! He made british/french-german war a serial of russian-german wars ... So in WW2 that was part-2 of WW1 we've lost 100 more of our beloved fathers and grandfathers than the Brits lost with 48 members of my family clan including my Grandpa ... ROAD TO HELL IS BUILT OF GOOD WILLS is the Russian saying = ДОРОГА В АД ВЫМОЩЕНА БЛАГИМИ НАМЕРЕНИЯМИ ... So I gave you my two first POOR COMMENTS today.
    (rote, 22 April 2017 08:03)

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  5. Don't stop there, build a monument to the greatest guerrilla fighter of all time, General "Draza" Mihailovic. It is long overdue!!!
    (Mike Sujdovic, 21 April 2017 22:51)

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  6. Beautiful picture, Gavrilo Princip Srpski Sin, Srpski Veliki Junak, Zivela Moja Divna i Ponosna Srbija !!!
    (Dragoljub Djurkovic, 21 April 2017 04:42)

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  7. Very bad day for me rote, first time I ever negatively shocked by your words !!!

    Gavrilo Princip did not start World War One ! Wars are started much much earlier than the first shots fired ! You always respond to the articals with some historical explanation but in this case was not thought out by you ! Please research our Serbian situation in the very early part of the twentieth century, the Austro - Hungarian Empire never loved the Christian Eastern Orthodox Slav of the Balkans ! Gavrilo Princip did commit murder but the two he murdered servants of the Devil !!!
    (Dragoljub Djurkovic, 21 April 2017 04:33)

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  8. Princip harmed Serbia and Russia more than anyone else. More than Hitler, Mussolini, Pavelic ect. He involved us to WW1 that wasn't our war. Then automatically we've got engaged to WW2 that was a prolongation of WW1. He is the most tragic man in the European history I think. At least he does not deserve a monument in Serbia. Guess Tirana and Zagreb are much better places for such a memorial.
    (rote, 20 April 2017 20:13)

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