Secret archives of Pope Pius XII will be opened, at last giving historians access to documents from the era of the 20th century's most controversial pope.
Why would the Pope have a need to approach the Russians?! To make you feel relevant in your wishful-thinking?!
West is treating the Serbs with the genocidal label left, right and centre for the last 20 years - and still counting - and I haven't seen the Russian being able to change this.
(Tom L'Orizi, 29 March 2019 15:04)
=========================
Hard to tell because none of us a privy to such information but here's a question for you then.
Why do you think the Vatican is getting ready to open the files? Because they are feeling especially charitable these days? They need to repair relationship they have with the Orthodox church?
They have a need to expose the Vatican for the events of the 40s?
I don't know, why do you think?
From Tom L'Orizi: "...in Karadžić's case and you can't do nothing about that..."
Do your self a favor Tommy, learn English grammar if you're going to post on an English-speaking site. Your poor grammar is contributing to the stereotype that Albanians are dumb, and believe me, they don't need anymore help.
Yeah, both Russia and Vatican are scared to death to announce "Russia's telling" to "the Pope to settle the matter with the Serbs" and that's why they have secretly decided to troubled you to break the news in "what if... maybe" style! Gee, who could have thought of that!!?
(Tom L'Orizi, 1 April 2019 02:04)
======================
Don't give up your day job, if you have one, because your attempt at sarcasm is a huge failure.
As if the Pope cannot talk to Russian orthodox directly!!? Serbs aren't important to Russians as you would like to be.
(Tom L'Orizi, 29 March 2019 10:16
===…==
Maybe the Russians told the Pope to settle the matter with the Serbs. We don't know how these things work.
Maybe the Serbs are very important to Russians and not as you would like it to be.
(Peggy, 31 March 2019 12:41)
Yeah, both Russia and Vatican are scared to death to announce "Russia's telling" to "the Pope to settle the matter with the Serbs" and that's why they have secretly decided to troubled you to break the news in "what if... maybe" style! Gee, who could have thought of that!!?
Vatican has no problems with Orthodoxy - apart from the Serbs that butchered Catholics and Muslims during the wars in ex YU. https://www.gfbv.de/de/news/the-serbian-orthodox-church-supported-the-genocide-of-bosnians-2804/.
__________________
... in order not to undermine its relations with the government of Serbia and its ecumenical dialogue with the Serbian Orthodox Church, the Holy See was not ready to formally recognise Kosovo, but would "continue to promote dialogue in a way that implicitly acknowledges and respects Kosovo's de facto independence" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_See%27s_reaction_to_the_2008_Kosovo_declaration_of_independence.
____________________
Serbs have been labelled as genocidal many times in recent years, most recently in Karadžić's case and you can't do nothing about that - no matter how much you froth and foam.
Western politicians are coming to Serbia because Vučić is paying them huge amounts of money to proxy-beg the Albanians to drop the tariff of 100%. Investments in Serbia, well, it is all your fiction. You obviously are not sprinkled with enough wisdom to distinguish between the expensive credits Serbia gets from mostly China and Russia and the direct foreign investments. Serbs would not leave in tens of thousands if the situation was as you wishful-think http://www.rts.rs/page/stories/sr/story/125/drustvo/3469096/odlazak-mladih-u-svet-srbiju-godisnje-kosta-vise-od-milijardu-evra.html.
As if the Pope cannot talk to Russian orthodox directly!!? Serbs aren't important to Russians as you would like to be.
(Tom L'Orizi, 29 March 2019 10:16
==================
Maybe the Russians told the Pope to settle the matter with the Serbs. We don't know how these things work.
Maybe the Serbs are very important to Russians and not as you would like it to be.
You really are a terrible disappointment. As I said you know very little except to criticize which is standard Albo fare.
Let me broaden your knowledge. The Catholic Church wants to repair the rift between them and the Orthodox world, but the most important group are the Russian Orthodox because they are the largest Orthodox group.
The Serbs are small in number, but they are backed by the Russian Orthodox Church and that is why the Vatican has to make peace with SPC. Now if I am wrong and the SPC has no influence on the mater can you tell me when the Vatican officially recognised Kosova or when are they canonising Alois Stepinac?
If the west is treating Serbs as genocidal why is there a conga line of EU politicians/bureaucrats arriving in Belgrade every week? Hahn is there now. How many have gone to Kosova or Croatia? NONE! The west does not care since they know it’s political.
Why has the US Ambassador to Serbia donated to the Serbian police a speed boat but they have given SFA to their Albos? They have given million to Serbs but nothing to Albos. Why? since you guys grovel so well to them?
The Russians have done plenty where it matters.
Then why doesn’t the Pope approach the Russians direct? Why bother with Serbia?
Just because the west treats Albanians like dirt does not mean Russia does the same with Serbia and that is your biggest problem.
(sj, 29 March 2019 12:15)
Why would the Pope have a need to approach the Russians?! To make you feel relevant in your wishful-thinking?!
West is treating the Serbs with the genocidal label left, right and centre for the last 20 years - and still counting - and I haven't seen the Russian being able to change this.
As if the Pope cannot talk to Russian orthodox directly!!? Serbs aren't important to Russians as you would like to be.
(Tom L'Orizi, 29 March 2019 10:16)
Then why doesn’t the Pope approach the Russians direct? Why bother with Serbia?
Just because the west treats Albanians like dirt does not mean Russia does the same with Serbia and that is your biggest problem.
... It was more a metaphoric statement since it meant that the Pope had to make peace with Serbs if he wanted any closer relations with the most important Orthodox group, the Russians...
(sj, 28 March 2019 09:05)
As if the Pope cannot talk to Russian orthodox directly!!? Serbs aren't important to Russians as you would like to be.
Never knew that orthodox world has its HQ in Belgrade! Thanks for info , sj!
All we need to know now from you, it;s the name of orthodox Pope!
(the truth, 27 March 2019 15:44)
Yep that right; if you only knew. If you did, we could have a decent conversation but you don’t.
It was more a metaphoric statement since it meant that the Pope had to make peace with Serbs if he wanted any closer relations with the most important Orthodox group, the Russians.
I always like the proverb it’s hard to fly like an eagle when your surrounded by turkeys and you sir are prize turkey.
It figures that you'd antagonize people commenting on this article, because just like the croat ustashe, you shiptars were also nazi boot lickers. you losers even name cafes after hitler..
Will there be children sex abuse or kidnapping as sex slaves be exposed? This is a tradition that has been practiced for thousands of years. One man did try to put a end to it but got himself killed instead.
That man was Jesus Christ.
I have written over the years that at some point in time the Vatican will sell out the Croats in an effort to heal the rift between the Catholic and Orthodox world. There is only one way to do this and that is through Belgrade.
This is prelude for the Pope to go to Jasenovac and once that is done the Croats will be lower than whale dung at the bottom of the sea.
(sj, 27 March 2019 11:55)
Never knew that orthodox world has its HQ in Belgrade! Thanks for info , sj!
All we need to know now from you, it;s the name of orthodox Pope!
Kudos to the Croatian website Index for publicizing this important story. It has been brushed under the rug for far too long. My only question is why does the Vatican have to wait another year to make the transcripts public? One can only hope that foul play isn't being undertaken to prevent the full magnitude of the catholic church and their clergy of their involvement of these crimes. It's about time for the forum revisionists to start spewing their usual rhetoric.
I have written over the years that at some point in time the Vatican will sell out the Croats in an effort to heal the rift between the Catholic and Orthodox world. There is only one way to do this and that is through Belgrade.
This is prelude for the Pope to go to Jasenovac and once that is done the Croats will be lower than whale dung at the bottom of the sea.
I have written over the years that at some point in time the Vatican will sell out the Croats in an effort to heal the rift between the Catholic and Orthodox world. There is only one way to do this and that is through Belgrade.
This is prelude for the Pope to go to Jasenovac and once that is done the Croats will be lower than whale dung at the bottom of the sea.
Kudos to the Croatian website Index for publicizing this important story. It has been brushed under the rug for far too long. My only question is why does the Vatican have to wait another year to make the transcripts public? One can only hope that foul play isn't being undertaken to prevent the full magnitude of the catholic church and their clergy of their involvement of these crimes. It's about time for the forum revisionists to start spewing their usual rhetoric.
It figures that you'd antagonize people commenting on this article, because just like the croat ustashe, you shiptars were also nazi boot lickers. you losers even name cafes after hitler..
Never knew that orthodox world has its HQ in Belgrade! Thanks for info , sj!
All we need to know now from you, it;s the name of orthodox Pope!
(the truth, 27 March 2019 15:44)
Yep that right; if you only knew. If you did, we could have a decent conversation but you don’t.
It was more a metaphoric statement since it meant that the Pope had to make peace with Serbs if he wanted any closer relations with the most important Orthodox group, the Russians.
I always like the proverb it’s hard to fly like an eagle when your surrounded by turkeys and you sir are prize turkey.
As if the Pope cannot talk to Russian orthodox directly!!? Serbs aren't important to Russians as you would like to be.
(Tom L'Orizi, 29 March 2019 10:16)
Then why doesn’t the Pope approach the Russians direct? Why bother with Serbia?
Just because the west treats Albanians like dirt does not mean Russia does the same with Serbia and that is your biggest problem.
Will there be children sex abuse or kidnapping as sex slaves be exposed? This is a tradition that has been practiced for thousands of years. One man did try to put a end to it but got himself killed instead.
That man was Jesus Christ.
Vatican has no problems with Orthodoxy - apart from the Serbs that butchered Catholics and Muslims during the wars in ex YU. https://www.gfbv.de/de/news/the-serbian-orthodox-church-supported-the-genocide-of-bosnians-2804/.
__________________
... in order not to undermine its relations with the government of Serbia and its ecumenical dialogue with the Serbian Orthodox Church, the Holy See was not ready to formally recognise Kosovo, but would "continue to promote dialogue in a way that implicitly acknowledges and respects Kosovo's de facto independence" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_See%27s_reaction_to_the_2008_Kosovo_declaration_of_independence.
____________________
Serbs have been labelled as genocidal many times in recent years, most recently in Karadžić's case and you can't do nothing about that - no matter how much you froth and foam.
Western politicians are coming to Serbia because Vučić is paying them huge amounts of money to proxy-beg the Albanians to drop the tariff of 100%. Investments in Serbia, well, it is all your fiction. You obviously are not sprinkled with enough wisdom to distinguish between the expensive credits Serbia gets from mostly China and Russia and the direct foreign investments. Serbs would not leave in tens of thousands if the situation was as you wishful-think http://www.rts.rs/page/stories/sr/story/125/drustvo/3469096/odlazak-mladih-u-svet-srbiju-godisnje-kosta-vise-od-milijardu-evra.html.
You really are a terrible disappointment. As I said you know very little except to criticize which is standard Albo fare.
Let me broaden your knowledge. The Catholic Church wants to repair the rift between them and the Orthodox world, but the most important group are the Russian Orthodox because they are the largest Orthodox group.
The Serbs are small in number, but they are backed by the Russian Orthodox Church and that is why the Vatican has to make peace with SPC. Now if I am wrong and the SPC has no influence on the mater can you tell me when the Vatican officially recognised Kosova or when are they canonising Alois Stepinac?
If the west is treating Serbs as genocidal why is there a conga line of EU politicians/bureaucrats arriving in Belgrade every week? Hahn is there now. How many have gone to Kosova or Croatia? NONE! The west does not care since they know it’s political.
Why has the US Ambassador to Serbia donated to the Serbian police a speed boat but they have given SFA to their Albos? They have given million to Serbs but nothing to Albos. Why? since you guys grovel so well to them?
The Russians have done plenty where it matters.
As if the Pope cannot talk to Russian orthodox directly!!? Serbs aren't important to Russians as you would like to be.
(Tom L'Orizi, 29 March 2019 10:16
==================
Maybe the Russians told the Pope to settle the matter with the Serbs. We don't know how these things work.
Maybe the Serbs are very important to Russians and not as you would like it to be.
I have written over the years that at some point in time the Vatican will sell out the Croats in an effort to heal the rift between the Catholic and Orthodox world. There is only one way to do this and that is through Belgrade.
This is prelude for the Pope to go to Jasenovac and once that is done the Croats will be lower than whale dung at the bottom of the sea.
(sj, 27 March 2019 11:55)
Never knew that orthodox world has its HQ in Belgrade! Thanks for info , sj!
All we need to know now from you, it;s the name of orthodox Pope!
From Tom L'Orizi: "...in Karadžić's case and you can't do nothing about that..."
Do your self a favor Tommy, learn English grammar if you're going to post on an English-speaking site. Your poor grammar is contributing to the stereotype that Albanians are dumb, and believe me, they don't need anymore help.
Then why doesn’t the Pope approach the Russians direct? Why bother with Serbia?
Just because the west treats Albanians like dirt does not mean Russia does the same with Serbia and that is your biggest problem.
(sj, 29 March 2019 12:15)
Why would the Pope have a need to approach the Russians?! To make you feel relevant in your wishful-thinking?!
West is treating the Serbs with the genocidal label left, right and centre for the last 20 years - and still counting - and I haven't seen the Russian being able to change this.
As if the Pope cannot talk to Russian orthodox directly!!? Serbs aren't important to Russians as you would like to be.
(Tom L'Orizi, 29 March 2019 10:16
===…==
Maybe the Russians told the Pope to settle the matter with the Serbs. We don't know how these things work.
Maybe the Serbs are very important to Russians and not as you would like it to be.
(Peggy, 31 March 2019 12:41)
Yeah, both Russia and Vatican are scared to death to announce "Russia's telling" to "the Pope to settle the matter with the Serbs" and that's why they have secretly decided to troubled you to break the news in "what if... maybe" style! Gee, who could have thought of that!!?
Yeah, both Russia and Vatican are scared to death to announce "Russia's telling" to "the Pope to settle the matter with the Serbs" and that's why they have secretly decided to troubled you to break the news in "what if... maybe" style! Gee, who could have thought of that!!?
(Tom L'Orizi, 1 April 2019 02:04)
======================
Don't give up your day job, if you have one, because your attempt at sarcasm is a huge failure.
Why would the Pope have a need to approach the Russians?! To make you feel relevant in your wishful-thinking?!
West is treating the Serbs with the genocidal label left, right and centre for the last 20 years - and still counting - and I haven't seen the Russian being able to change this.
(Tom L'Orizi, 29 March 2019 15:04)
=========================
Hard to tell because none of us a privy to such information but here's a question for you then.
Why do you think the Vatican is getting ready to open the files? Because they are feeling especially charitable these days? They need to repair relationship they have with the Orthodox church?
They have a need to expose the Vatican for the events of the 40s?
I don't know, why do you think?
... It was more a metaphoric statement since it meant that the Pope had to make peace with Serbs if he wanted any closer relations with the most important Orthodox group, the Russians...
(sj, 28 March 2019 09:05)
As if the Pope cannot talk to Russian orthodox directly!!? Serbs aren't important to Russians as you would like to be.
I have written over the years that at some point in time the Vatican will sell out the Croats in an effort to heal the rift between the Catholic and Orthodox world. There is only one way to do this and that is through Belgrade.
This is prelude for the Pope to go to Jasenovac and once that is done the Croats will be lower than whale dung at the bottom of the sea.
(sj, 27 March 2019 11:55)
Never knew that orthodox world has its HQ in Belgrade! Thanks for info , sj!
All we need to know now from you, it;s the name of orthodox Pope!
... It was more a metaphoric statement since it meant that the Pope had to make peace with Serbs if he wanted any closer relations with the most important Orthodox group, the Russians...
(sj, 28 March 2019 09:05)
As if the Pope cannot talk to Russian orthodox directly!!? Serbs aren't important to Russians as you would like to be.
I have written over the years that at some point in time the Vatican will sell out the Croats in an effort to heal the rift between the Catholic and Orthodox world. There is only one way to do this and that is through Belgrade.
This is prelude for the Pope to go to Jasenovac and once that is done the Croats will be lower than whale dung at the bottom of the sea.
Then why doesn’t the Pope approach the Russians direct? Why bother with Serbia?
Just because the west treats Albanians like dirt does not mean Russia does the same with Serbia and that is your biggest problem.
(sj, 29 March 2019 12:15)
Why would the Pope have a need to approach the Russians?! To make you feel relevant in your wishful-thinking?!
West is treating the Serbs with the genocidal label left, right and centre for the last 20 years - and still counting - and I haven't seen the Russian being able to change this.
Vatican has no problems with Orthodoxy - apart from the Serbs that butchered Catholics and Muslims during the wars in ex YU. https://www.gfbv.de/de/news/the-serbian-orthodox-church-supported-the-genocide-of-bosnians-2804/.
__________________
... in order not to undermine its relations with the government of Serbia and its ecumenical dialogue with the Serbian Orthodox Church, the Holy See was not ready to formally recognise Kosovo, but would "continue to promote dialogue in a way that implicitly acknowledges and respects Kosovo's de facto independence" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_See%27s_reaction_to_the_2008_Kosovo_declaration_of_independence.
____________________
Serbs have been labelled as genocidal many times in recent years, most recently in Karadžić's case and you can't do nothing about that - no matter how much you froth and foam.
Western politicians are coming to Serbia because Vučić is paying them huge amounts of money to proxy-beg the Albanians to drop the tariff of 100%. Investments in Serbia, well, it is all your fiction. You obviously are not sprinkled with enough wisdom to distinguish between the expensive credits Serbia gets from mostly China and Russia and the direct foreign investments. Serbs would not leave in tens of thousands if the situation was as you wishful-think http://www.rts.rs/page/stories/sr/story/125/drustvo/3469096/odlazak-mladih-u-svet-srbiju-godisnje-kosta-vise-od-milijardu-evra.html.
Never knew that orthodox world has its HQ in Belgrade! Thanks for info , sj!
All we need to know now from you, it;s the name of orthodox Pope!
(the truth, 27 March 2019 15:44)
Yep that right; if you only knew. If you did, we could have a decent conversation but you don’t.
It was more a metaphoric statement since it meant that the Pope had to make peace with Serbs if he wanted any closer relations with the most important Orthodox group, the Russians.
I always like the proverb it’s hard to fly like an eagle when your surrounded by turkeys and you sir are prize turkey.
As if the Pope cannot talk to Russian orthodox directly!!? Serbs aren't important to Russians as you would like to be.
(Tom L'Orizi, 29 March 2019 10:16
===…==
Maybe the Russians told the Pope to settle the matter with the Serbs. We don't know how these things work.
Maybe the Serbs are very important to Russians and not as you would like it to be.
(Peggy, 31 March 2019 12:41)
Yeah, both Russia and Vatican are scared to death to announce "Russia's telling" to "the Pope to settle the matter with the Serbs" and that's why they have secretly decided to troubled you to break the news in "what if... maybe" style! Gee, who could have thought of that!!?
Kudos to the Croatian website Index for publicizing this important story. It has been brushed under the rug for far too long. My only question is why does the Vatican have to wait another year to make the transcripts public? One can only hope that foul play isn't being undertaken to prevent the full magnitude of the catholic church and their clergy of their involvement of these crimes. It's about time for the forum revisionists to start spewing their usual rhetoric.
As if the Pope cannot talk to Russian orthodox directly!!? Serbs aren't important to Russians as you would like to be.
(Tom L'Orizi, 29 March 2019 10:16)
Then why doesn’t the Pope approach the Russians direct? Why bother with Serbia?
Just because the west treats Albanians like dirt does not mean Russia does the same with Serbia and that is your biggest problem.
As if the Pope cannot talk to Russian orthodox directly!!? Serbs aren't important to Russians as you would like to be.
(Tom L'Orizi, 29 March 2019 10:16
==================
Maybe the Russians told the Pope to settle the matter with the Serbs. We don't know how these things work.
Maybe the Serbs are very important to Russians and not as you would like it to be.
From Tom L'Orizi: "...in Karadžić's case and you can't do nothing about that..."
Do your self a favor Tommy, learn English grammar if you're going to post on an English-speaking site. Your poor grammar is contributing to the stereotype that Albanians are dumb, and believe me, they don't need anymore help.
It figures that you'd antagonize people commenting on this article, because just like the croat ustashe, you shiptars were also nazi boot lickers. you losers even name cafes after hitler..
You really are a terrible disappointment. As I said you know very little except to criticize which is standard Albo fare.
Let me broaden your knowledge. The Catholic Church wants to repair the rift between them and the Orthodox world, but the most important group are the Russian Orthodox because they are the largest Orthodox group.
The Serbs are small in number, but they are backed by the Russian Orthodox Church and that is why the Vatican has to make peace with SPC. Now if I am wrong and the SPC has no influence on the mater can you tell me when the Vatican officially recognised Kosova or when are they canonising Alois Stepinac?
If the west is treating Serbs as genocidal why is there a conga line of EU politicians/bureaucrats arriving in Belgrade every week? Hahn is there now. How many have gone to Kosova or Croatia? NONE! The west does not care since they know it’s political.
Why has the US Ambassador to Serbia donated to the Serbian police a speed boat but they have given SFA to their Albos? They have given million to Serbs but nothing to Albos. Why? since you guys grovel so well to them?
The Russians have done plenty where it matters.
Yeah, both Russia and Vatican are scared to death to announce "Russia's telling" to "the Pope to settle the matter with the Serbs" and that's why they have secretly decided to troubled you to break the news in "what if... maybe" style! Gee, who could have thought of that!!?
(Tom L'Orizi, 1 April 2019 02:04)
======================
Don't give up your day job, if you have one, because your attempt at sarcasm is a huge failure.
Will there be children sex abuse or kidnapping as sex slaves be exposed? This is a tradition that has been practiced for thousands of years. One man did try to put a end to it but got himself killed instead.
That man was Jesus Christ.
Why would the Pope have a need to approach the Russians?! To make you feel relevant in your wishful-thinking?!
West is treating the Serbs with the genocidal label left, right and centre for the last 20 years - and still counting - and I haven't seen the Russian being able to change this.
(Tom L'Orizi, 29 March 2019 15:04)
=========================
Hard to tell because none of us a privy to such information but here's a question for you then.
Why do you think the Vatican is getting ready to open the files? Because they are feeling especially charitable these days? They need to repair relationship they have with the Orthodox church?
They have a need to expose the Vatican for the events of the 40s?
I don't know, why do you think?
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