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Friday, 01.11.2013.

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Dodik warns about "Islamization" of Bosnia

Work is underway in Bosnia to "Islamize" its society, says Milorad Dodik, the president of the Serb entity in that country, the RS.

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Shqiptar

pre 10 godina

(@Shqiptar, 5 November 2013 20:29)

We're talking about Islamization of Bosnia and you go back to your anti-KLA propaganda. I guess it's my fault for trying to reason with a bunch of dumb Chetniks. Go fight in Bosnia, that's the only thing you know how to do, loser.

@Shqiptar

pre 10 godina

Ex-NATO Chef: Lord Roberston: “the KLA were responsible for more deaths in Kosovo than the Yugoslav [Serb] authorities had been.” http://balkanblog.org/2011/03/23/ex-nato-chef-lord-roberston-the-kla-were-responsible-for-more-deaths-in-kosovo-than-the-yugoslav-serb-authorities-had-been/ HOnestly, i am too lazy to find the orignal passage out of the House of Lords homepage - and that tells the all - "secular" majority of KiM (and Albania) - when I served in KiM I did not see them - there were only Muslim fanatic nazis who lied to naive Westrners who still belive them (taqiyya)- and with the other hand scooped the money from the states their ancestors came from - S-Arabia and Turkey....
exKFOR

Mateja blican

pre 10 godina

You people need to realize that Dodik has a good point. Muslims are growing at a fast rate and those from the middle east who are huge in oil are shipping money out to countries like Bosnia helping make life possible. Think about all those mosks across bosnia. You really think the bosnian people have the money to build such a thing. Its all coming from outside help.

Shqiptar

pre 10 godina

"During the civil war in Bosnia, there came to a large number of Muslims - mujahedin from the Arab world"

(RiRi, 2 November 2013 12:48)

And whose fault is that?? If I was at that point of desperation for being ethnically extinguished, with no help, I would have brought in Arabs, Chinese, Indians and half of Africa to help me fight the Serbs. Luckily that didn't happen in Kosovo, and NATO went in before the situation became too desperate.

Very few people in the Balkans want Arabs moving into the Balkans. The small exceptions are the radicalized Muslim groups, which have no real support within the Bosnian and Albanian secular majorities. Dodik should try to work together with his Bosnian co-nationals to improve the situation, instead of trying to anger and marginalize the various ethnic communities.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

"Simple, same people who are paying for all those mosques to be built around the world and same people who are pumping money into our universities in order to influence how we teach. "

these people must be mighty rich. lets engage in simple mathematics, 300000 mouths to feed, let us say they give them 1 year to become self reliant (there's definitely not 300000 jobs available in Bosnia) at 10 EURO's per person per day, so 10 * 300000 * 365 = 1095000000 in one year. yeah Peggy, this really is going to happen because the figures all fit! you'll notice, its not even mentioned in which parts of Bosnia they're going to relocate, but no, you believe in nonsense if you want

Roger7

pre 10 godina

ned taylor said, "Muslims do not cause problems on their own, it is the reaction to them and their reactions to this in turn that cause problems.

What a sick comment. With this abhorrent way of thinking, no one should be held responsible for their own behavior.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

how are they going to earn a living in Bosnia? who exactly is going to pay for them?
================================
I believe I have already answered this for you.
Read my post again and again until you get it.

What difference does my name make!

pre 10 godina

Can't understand why Bosnia is regarded as a Muslim country when Christians always were and still are the majority in that country. Write whatever you want, but you can't change the fact that Muslims are the minority in a Christian country, plain and simple, that's Bosna moja for ya!

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

do you actually think 300000 Arabs moving to Bosnia is a low figure? tell me something Peggy, what immigration status are they going to have and more importantly, how are they going to earn a living in Bosnia? who exactly is going to pay for them? this is scaremongering of the worst kind, one that takes all of half a brain cell to debunk. 300000 people moving in and no one knows what their status will be? yeah, up there with father christmas this one believe me

Ari Gold

pre 10 godina

The yummy westerners hate the Bosnian Serbs for their slaughtering, but as Britain succumbs to the far higher Muslim birthrate, perhaps the Serbs will be for Christianity what Bali is for Hindus and Buddhists...
(Renko, 4 November 2013 06:18)

The Bosnian Serbs didn't "slaughter". But they did decide that the Titoist entity of "Bosnia & Herzegovina" is not worth staying in if that means becoming minorities in a Muslim-run country overnight and thereby losing the ties to its mother country Serbia.

The Serbs in Bosnia fought for their survival and right to chose just as the Bosniaks what country they would like to be a part of.

Renko

pre 10 godina

Muslims do not cause problems on their own, it is the reaction to them and their reactions to this in turn that cause problems.
(ned taylor, 3 November 2013 12:01)

I like that, yet another confused westerner who does not understand the nature of Islam.
Every country where they live, there is killing. Even when there are no other infidels, they slaughter each other...
The yummy westerners hate the Bosnian Serbs for their slaughtering, but as Britain succumbs to the far higher Muslim birthrate, perhaps the Serbs will be for Christianity what Bali is for Hindus and Buddhists...

Peggy

pre 10 godina

I read them too Peggy, but only for a laugh
============================
Then keep laughing Nikolle. I really don't care what you think about them. I suspect many others don't either. Just because you find them funny doesn't mean anything.

You keep mentioning 500000. It says between 300000 and 500000. Why do you take the higher figure instead of the lower? Maybe because you want to try to make it as ridiculous as you can?
Who is going to pay for them? Simple, same people who are paying for all those mosques to be built around the world and same people who are pumping money into our universities in order to influence how we teach.
You know who I am talking about.

Renko

pre 10 godina

Muslims do not cause problems on their own, it is the reaction to them and their reactions to this in turn that cause problems.
(ned taylor, 3 November 2013 12:01)

I like that, yet another confused westerner who does not understand the nature of Islam.
Every country where they live, there is killing. Even when there are no other infidels, they slaughter each other...
The yummy westerners hate the Bosnian Serbs for their slaughtering, but as Britain succumbs to the far higher Muslim birthrate, perhaps the Serbs will be for Christianity what Bali is for Hindus and Buddhists...

Daniel

pre 10 godina

Dodik s just singing his same old song. Warning of impending "Islamisation" but lying his heart out (assuming he has one) about the genocide of the 90s that the "Bosnian Serbs" (Chetniks) perpetrated. Yes Bosnia has a million problem - but this jerk and his types are top of the list.
(robert 0, 2 November 2013 21:18)

I must inform you that there has been no chetniks in the balcans since the end of ww2. As long as he is a jerk to you he is a hero for us.

ned taylor

pre 10 godina

Truth- 'a lot of people are having problems with muslims living in their country'.....this may or may not be so but doesn't apply to Bosnia as it IS their country. They haven't moved in from abroad over the last 60 or 70 years as is the case in the UK; they have lived there since time immemorial. There may be some interlopers who came in the 1990s and haven't left but they numbered around 1550 (I've seen all the files) and 600 had their citizenship revoked of which many have now left. Muslims do not cause problems on their own, it is the reaction to them and their reactions to this in turn that cause problems.

robert 0

pre 10 godina

Dodik s just singing his same old song. Warning of impending "Islamisation" but lying his heart out (assuming he has one) about the genocide of the 90s that the "Bosnian Serbs" (Chetniks) perpetrated. Yes Bosnia has a million problem - but this jerk and his types are top of the list.

Adem

pre 10 godina

Fat Man talking usual hot air.
Only jealousy.
Turkey and Gulf pour money in Sarajevo.
Russia give Fat Man only enough oil for cook shashlik.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 10 godina

The True Nature of Islam !.

http://www.islam-watch.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=945:categories-of-islamic-murder&catid=138:jake-neuman&Itemid=58

Islam is a Political Religion opting for World Rule !.

Arn.Sweden.

Reader

pre 10 godina

"..They haven't been gentle with Milorad Dodik in the past, either..." said Dodik.

Did he really speak about himself in third person? Or is it just a typo?

XXX

pre 10 godina

Aussie Baresic.
I don't know about that.
There is a prophesy that Europe will be islamic by end of 21st century, and process seems to be well underway in many countries.
But, is that bad?
Take a look at last century in Europe, and you'll realize this would be civilization's leap forward.
Who treated us better - Croats or Turks? Germans or Turks?
I look at Brit (or American) on one side, and Turk (or Arab) on the other.
I have to admit that one of them I regard to be uncivilized savage.
Guess which one?

Daniel

pre 10 godina

Nikolle do you really need to ask why a syrian, egyptian, libyan or yemenite would move to Bosnia?Bosnia is turning into an european Iran more and more for each day, they even have their own religious sharia police that attacks women that don´t wear the hijab. http://www.tandempost.com/TPnews/10306-culture/bosnia39s-39sharia-police39-verbally-attacks-girls

RiRi

pre 10 godina

Unfortunately, Dodik is nothing wrong. During the civil war in Bosnia, there came to a large number of Muslims - mujahedin from the Arab world to fight against the Serbs and Croats. Many of the mujahideen remained in Bosnia, there were married and created a family. A much larger problem is that these people are the promoters of radical Islam. This is not the only potential problem issue Bosnia, but regions of Europe.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

I read them too Peggy, but only for a laugh. May I recommend the gates of vienna website, seeing as you're into nonsense? Yes 500000 Arabs scheduled to locate to Bosnia, yet its not explained who will pay for them. It really sounds credible! Amazing what people nelieve

scepticism

pre 10 godina

@Bam Bam - and others with similar thinking

you are wrong when you say that "serbia has to accept living with muslims or perish". Actually Serbia doesnt HAVE to live with any one that is ill suited to a certain cultural, ethnical and religious context. You are funny when you use the word "perish", nice word but wrong in this case.

In fact, muslims have been and will always be a non european religion, muslims have failed to integrate themselves in any civilised society - this is why they make ghettos wherever they go. No harm in this, we just dont want you next to us. So get out.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

"you really need to stop reading Pam Geller Peggy,"

=================================
Not only will I not stop listening to what Pam has to say but I will continue to encourage others to as well as listen to Robert Spencer, Julia Gorin, Mark Steyn and many others. You know who they are.

Just because you don't like the truth doesn't mean you can ridicule the others who do. It won't work. These people are very credible.

truth

pre 10 godina

History will repeat itself. Give it 10-15 years tops, there will be another conflict in the Balkans. Albanians are already complaining in Macedonia, Serbia and crna gora about equality and human rights. Dodik knows this and is addressing the issue. The only thing is USA is started problems with everyone in europe and western europe is having a lot of issues with muslims living in their countries, so it will be very interesting to see what happens in the future.

Sieg Fail

pre 10 godina

Well done Croatia for accepting a minority group like the Muslims who have always called Croatia their home.
(Bam Bam, 1 November 2013 14:25)

Says the American racist who wants to rid Croatia of Serbs.

marKo

pre 10 godina

It does not make sense to me. I'm not trying to be mean here, I am sure many regular people in the Bosnian federation are trying to improve its economy, but almost 20 years after the civil war, they still don't have the economy they did before the war. Crime in the streets, disharmony amongst Catholics and Muslims in Mostar, The Government is rife with corruption, and the investors are not exactly lining up to invest. Basically the only growth is that regular people continue to work hard, and some have scraped up something. But what would these 100,000 immigrants do for a living in a foreign country where they can't speak the language or read and write?

Aussi Baresic

pre 10 godina

Croats and serbs are sworn enemies but watching the development in Bosnia, Kosovo and Turkey Christians regardless of etnicity will have to join forces against islam. Islam is not a religion of peace.

MikeC

pre 10 godina

Nikolle

Bosnia: 'Islamisation' prompts calls for Croat entity
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Politics/?id=3.0.3125137695

ISLAMIC TERRORISM AND RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION
http://islamicpersecution.wordpress.com/tag/islamization-of-bosnia/

ned taylor

pre 10 godina

I was part of a project in BiH in 2006-2008 reviewing and taking away citizenships from those who came to Bosnia from the Muslim world in 1992/3. This review had the full support and participation of Bosniak politicians so I would be very surprised if a plan to move 300,000 of these people back to Bosnia existed anywhere other than in the imagination of M.Dodik esq. Russians are buying thousands of apartments throughout the Balkans and elsewhere but I have yet to read any stories of 'russification'. He was previously claiming that the Bosniaks were being radicalised with no evidence to support that claim. He has now moved on to something else in the hope that someone in the international community will say something along the lines of "Oh yes Mile, you were right all along and we were poor misguided fools. Of course you can have your own country and pour even more money into the pockets of your family and friends unhindered". Or maybe not........

Toronto Croatia

pre 10 godina

I can't wait for the census results to come out of Bosnia. There will be less Bosniaks than many people originally thought. Some of them might have classified themselves as just Muslim instead and there was also a strong campaign for some to select "other" which could water down their numbers a bit.

Also, the Croatian government has stated that one million people living in Bosnia have Croatian passports! Clearly, there are not a million Croatians living in Bosnia. A lot of Bosniaks have played to be Croatian especially in the Bihac area (close to Zagreb) just so they can get a Croatian passport for the added benefits of Croatia being in the EU, to work seasonal in Croatia or travel easier. The Croatian government has made it be know that those who claim to be Croatian and have Croatian passports and identify themselves as Bosniak on the census could face legal action and will be stripped of their Croatian passports.

My prediction is that the number of Serbs and Bosniaks will be really close and a bump to original estimates of the number of Croatians. The Bosniak's might really need these 300,000 people from the Arab world.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

"The same reason they are moving all around the world. "

are you being serious? what is that reason? how are those 500000 Arabs (they can't all be preachers) going to earn a living in Bosnia? who on earth is even going to support them in Bosnia? you really need to stop reading Pam Geller Peggy, quite clearly it has led to unhealthy paranoia
why doesn't Dodik name his sources and tell us about these projects. its really easy to come up with words.

Bam Bam

pre 10 godina

Its like when Tudjman warned the Croatian people about the Serbs in Croatia and BiH trying to create a Greater Serbia. May I add that Dodik was a part of that plan. Serbia is once again surrounded by Muslims and will have to accept to live with them or perish. Take Croatia as a great example for the rest of Europe. They have gone out of there way to build a mosque and islamic school for muslims in Rijeka as they see them as an important part of Croatias future in understanding and accepting each others culture as a learning tool for future generations. Well done Croatia for accepting a minority group like the Muslims who have always called Croatia their home.

Dum Dum

pre 10 godina

Who built the biggest mosque in Sarajevo and is funding many others in the region (including Serbia, Kosovo and Albania)? I'll give you a clue. They produce oil?

Andy UK

pre 10 godina

Sounds like it could have been a speech from Jan / Feb 1992.

There's some big figures there - is he trying to say that BiH as a whole has no immigrations laws or limits? Or are 300,000 people going to come in illegally?

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

"There are serious projects to bring in between 300,000 and 500,000 Arabs to Bosnia"

really? where did he read this? who is sponsoring this project? what status would those Arabs have in Bosnia? why would Arabs even MOVE to Bosnia? what scaremongering is this.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

why would Arabs even MOVE to Bosnia? what scaremongering is this.
(Nikolle, 1 November 2013 13:21)
==========================
The same reason they are moving all around the world.
There is an organisation here in Australia called the Q Society of Australia which is dedicated to stopping Islamisation of Australia. This is being done by the same people who want to move to Bosnia. They arrive from Indonesia by boat and don't have any documents of them. They insist they are refugees but how do we verify that when there is nothing on them to prove who they are?

Don't act so dumb Nikolle. You and I both know what is happening. Maybe you are that dumb.

Dum Dum

pre 10 godina

Who built the biggest mosque in Sarajevo and is funding many others in the region (including Serbia, Kosovo and Albania)? I'll give you a clue. They produce oil?

Peggy

pre 10 godina

why would Arabs even MOVE to Bosnia? what scaremongering is this.
(Nikolle, 1 November 2013 13:21)
==========================
The same reason they are moving all around the world.
There is an organisation here in Australia called the Q Society of Australia which is dedicated to stopping Islamisation of Australia. This is being done by the same people who want to move to Bosnia. They arrive from Indonesia by boat and don't have any documents of them. They insist they are refugees but how do we verify that when there is nothing on them to prove who they are?

Don't act so dumb Nikolle. You and I both know what is happening. Maybe you are that dumb.

Sieg Fail

pre 10 godina

Well done Croatia for accepting a minority group like the Muslims who have always called Croatia their home.
(Bam Bam, 1 November 2013 14:25)

Says the American racist who wants to rid Croatia of Serbs.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

"There are serious projects to bring in between 300,000 and 500,000 Arabs to Bosnia"

really? where did he read this? who is sponsoring this project? what status would those Arabs have in Bosnia? why would Arabs even MOVE to Bosnia? what scaremongering is this.

truth

pre 10 godina

History will repeat itself. Give it 10-15 years tops, there will be another conflict in the Balkans. Albanians are already complaining in Macedonia, Serbia and crna gora about equality and human rights. Dodik knows this and is addressing the issue. The only thing is USA is started problems with everyone in europe and western europe is having a lot of issues with muslims living in their countries, so it will be very interesting to see what happens in the future.

Andy UK

pre 10 godina

Sounds like it could have been a speech from Jan / Feb 1992.

There's some big figures there - is he trying to say that BiH as a whole has no immigrations laws or limits? Or are 300,000 people going to come in illegally?

Peggy

pre 10 godina

"you really need to stop reading Pam Geller Peggy,"

=================================
Not only will I not stop listening to what Pam has to say but I will continue to encourage others to as well as listen to Robert Spencer, Julia Gorin, Mark Steyn and many others. You know who they are.

Just because you don't like the truth doesn't mean you can ridicule the others who do. It won't work. These people are very credible.

Bam Bam

pre 10 godina

Its like when Tudjman warned the Croatian people about the Serbs in Croatia and BiH trying to create a Greater Serbia. May I add that Dodik was a part of that plan. Serbia is once again surrounded by Muslims and will have to accept to live with them or perish. Take Croatia as a great example for the rest of Europe. They have gone out of there way to build a mosque and islamic school for muslims in Rijeka as they see them as an important part of Croatias future in understanding and accepting each others culture as a learning tool for future generations. Well done Croatia for accepting a minority group like the Muslims who have always called Croatia their home.

Toronto Croatia

pre 10 godina

I can't wait for the census results to come out of Bosnia. There will be less Bosniaks than many people originally thought. Some of them might have classified themselves as just Muslim instead and there was also a strong campaign for some to select "other" which could water down their numbers a bit.

Also, the Croatian government has stated that one million people living in Bosnia have Croatian passports! Clearly, there are not a million Croatians living in Bosnia. A lot of Bosniaks have played to be Croatian especially in the Bihac area (close to Zagreb) just so they can get a Croatian passport for the added benefits of Croatia being in the EU, to work seasonal in Croatia or travel easier. The Croatian government has made it be know that those who claim to be Croatian and have Croatian passports and identify themselves as Bosniak on the census could face legal action and will be stripped of their Croatian passports.

My prediction is that the number of Serbs and Bosniaks will be really close and a bump to original estimates of the number of Croatians. The Bosniak's might really need these 300,000 people from the Arab world.

marKo

pre 10 godina

It does not make sense to me. I'm not trying to be mean here, I am sure many regular people in the Bosnian federation are trying to improve its economy, but almost 20 years after the civil war, they still don't have the economy they did before the war. Crime in the streets, disharmony amongst Catholics and Muslims in Mostar, The Government is rife with corruption, and the investors are not exactly lining up to invest. Basically the only growth is that regular people continue to work hard, and some have scraped up something. But what would these 100,000 immigrants do for a living in a foreign country where they can't speak the language or read and write?

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

"The same reason they are moving all around the world. "

are you being serious? what is that reason? how are those 500000 Arabs (they can't all be preachers) going to earn a living in Bosnia? who on earth is even going to support them in Bosnia? you really need to stop reading Pam Geller Peggy, quite clearly it has led to unhealthy paranoia
why doesn't Dodik name his sources and tell us about these projects. its really easy to come up with words.

Aussi Baresic

pre 10 godina

Croats and serbs are sworn enemies but watching the development in Bosnia, Kosovo and Turkey Christians regardless of etnicity will have to join forces against islam. Islam is not a religion of peace.

MikeC

pre 10 godina

Nikolle

Bosnia: 'Islamisation' prompts calls for Croat entity
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Politics/?id=3.0.3125137695

ISLAMIC TERRORISM AND RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION
http://islamicpersecution.wordpress.com/tag/islamization-of-bosnia/

Arn.Sweden.

pre 10 godina

The True Nature of Islam !.

http://www.islam-watch.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=945:categories-of-islamic-murder&catid=138:jake-neuman&Itemid=58

Islam is a Political Religion opting for World Rule !.

Arn.Sweden.

ned taylor

pre 10 godina

I was part of a project in BiH in 2006-2008 reviewing and taking away citizenships from those who came to Bosnia from the Muslim world in 1992/3. This review had the full support and participation of Bosniak politicians so I would be very surprised if a plan to move 300,000 of these people back to Bosnia existed anywhere other than in the imagination of M.Dodik esq. Russians are buying thousands of apartments throughout the Balkans and elsewhere but I have yet to read any stories of 'russification'. He was previously claiming that the Bosniaks were being radicalised with no evidence to support that claim. He has now moved on to something else in the hope that someone in the international community will say something along the lines of "Oh yes Mile, you were right all along and we were poor misguided fools. Of course you can have your own country and pour even more money into the pockets of your family and friends unhindered". Or maybe not........

robert 0

pre 10 godina

Dodik s just singing his same old song. Warning of impending "Islamisation" but lying his heart out (assuming he has one) about the genocide of the 90s that the "Bosnian Serbs" (Chetniks) perpetrated. Yes Bosnia has a million problem - but this jerk and his types are top of the list.

Mateja blican

pre 10 godina

You people need to realize that Dodik has a good point. Muslims are growing at a fast rate and those from the middle east who are huge in oil are shipping money out to countries like Bosnia helping make life possible. Think about all those mosks across bosnia. You really think the bosnian people have the money to build such a thing. Its all coming from outside help.

RiRi

pre 10 godina

Unfortunately, Dodik is nothing wrong. During the civil war in Bosnia, there came to a large number of Muslims - mujahedin from the Arab world to fight against the Serbs and Croats. Many of the mujahideen remained in Bosnia, there were married and created a family. A much larger problem is that these people are the promoters of radical Islam. This is not the only potential problem issue Bosnia, but regions of Europe.

scepticism

pre 10 godina

@Bam Bam - and others with similar thinking

you are wrong when you say that "serbia has to accept living with muslims or perish". Actually Serbia doesnt HAVE to live with any one that is ill suited to a certain cultural, ethnical and religious context. You are funny when you use the word "perish", nice word but wrong in this case.

In fact, muslims have been and will always be a non european religion, muslims have failed to integrate themselves in any civilised society - this is why they make ghettos wherever they go. No harm in this, we just dont want you next to us. So get out.

Daniel

pre 10 godina

Nikolle do you really need to ask why a syrian, egyptian, libyan or yemenite would move to Bosnia?Bosnia is turning into an european Iran more and more for each day, they even have their own religious sharia police that attacks women that don´t wear the hijab. http://www.tandempost.com/TPnews/10306-culture/bosnia39s-39sharia-police39-verbally-attacks-girls

What difference does my name make!

pre 10 godina

Can't understand why Bosnia is regarded as a Muslim country when Christians always were and still are the majority in that country. Write whatever you want, but you can't change the fact that Muslims are the minority in a Christian country, plain and simple, that's Bosna moja for ya!

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

I read them too Peggy, but only for a laugh. May I recommend the gates of vienna website, seeing as you're into nonsense? Yes 500000 Arabs scheduled to locate to Bosnia, yet its not explained who will pay for them. It really sounds credible! Amazing what people nelieve

ned taylor

pre 10 godina

Truth- 'a lot of people are having problems with muslims living in their country'.....this may or may not be so but doesn't apply to Bosnia as it IS their country. They haven't moved in from abroad over the last 60 or 70 years as is the case in the UK; they have lived there since time immemorial. There may be some interlopers who came in the 1990s and haven't left but they numbered around 1550 (I've seen all the files) and 600 had their citizenship revoked of which many have now left. Muslims do not cause problems on their own, it is the reaction to them and their reactions to this in turn that cause problems.

Ari Gold

pre 10 godina

The yummy westerners hate the Bosnian Serbs for their slaughtering, but as Britain succumbs to the far higher Muslim birthrate, perhaps the Serbs will be for Christianity what Bali is for Hindus and Buddhists...
(Renko, 4 November 2013 06:18)

The Bosnian Serbs didn't "slaughter". But they did decide that the Titoist entity of "Bosnia & Herzegovina" is not worth staying in if that means becoming minorities in a Muslim-run country overnight and thereby losing the ties to its mother country Serbia.

The Serbs in Bosnia fought for their survival and right to chose just as the Bosniaks what country they would like to be a part of.

Roger7

pre 10 godina

ned taylor said, "Muslims do not cause problems on their own, it is the reaction to them and their reactions to this in turn that cause problems.

What a sick comment. With this abhorrent way of thinking, no one should be held responsible for their own behavior.

Shqiptar

pre 10 godina

"During the civil war in Bosnia, there came to a large number of Muslims - mujahedin from the Arab world"

(RiRi, 2 November 2013 12:48)

And whose fault is that?? If I was at that point of desperation for being ethnically extinguished, with no help, I would have brought in Arabs, Chinese, Indians and half of Africa to help me fight the Serbs. Luckily that didn't happen in Kosovo, and NATO went in before the situation became too desperate.

Very few people in the Balkans want Arabs moving into the Balkans. The small exceptions are the radicalized Muslim groups, which have no real support within the Bosnian and Albanian secular majorities. Dodik should try to work together with his Bosnian co-nationals to improve the situation, instead of trying to anger and marginalize the various ethnic communities.

XXX

pre 10 godina

Aussie Baresic.
I don't know about that.
There is a prophesy that Europe will be islamic by end of 21st century, and process seems to be well underway in many countries.
But, is that bad?
Take a look at last century in Europe, and you'll realize this would be civilization's leap forward.
Who treated us better - Croats or Turks? Germans or Turks?
I look at Brit (or American) on one side, and Turk (or Arab) on the other.
I have to admit that one of them I regard to be uncivilized savage.
Guess which one?

Adem

pre 10 godina

Fat Man talking usual hot air.
Only jealousy.
Turkey and Gulf pour money in Sarajevo.
Russia give Fat Man only enough oil for cook shashlik.

Renko

pre 10 godina

Muslims do not cause problems on their own, it is the reaction to them and their reactions to this in turn that cause problems.
(ned taylor, 3 November 2013 12:01)

I like that, yet another confused westerner who does not understand the nature of Islam.
Every country where they live, there is killing. Even when there are no other infidels, they slaughter each other...
The yummy westerners hate the Bosnian Serbs for their slaughtering, but as Britain succumbs to the far higher Muslim birthrate, perhaps the Serbs will be for Christianity what Bali is for Hindus and Buddhists...

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

do you actually think 300000 Arabs moving to Bosnia is a low figure? tell me something Peggy, what immigration status are they going to have and more importantly, how are they going to earn a living in Bosnia? who exactly is going to pay for them? this is scaremongering of the worst kind, one that takes all of half a brain cell to debunk. 300000 people moving in and no one knows what their status will be? yeah, up there with father christmas this one believe me

Peggy

pre 10 godina

I read them too Peggy, but only for a laugh
============================
Then keep laughing Nikolle. I really don't care what you think about them. I suspect many others don't either. Just because you find them funny doesn't mean anything.

You keep mentioning 500000. It says between 300000 and 500000. Why do you take the higher figure instead of the lower? Maybe because you want to try to make it as ridiculous as you can?
Who is going to pay for them? Simple, same people who are paying for all those mosques to be built around the world and same people who are pumping money into our universities in order to influence how we teach.
You know who I am talking about.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

how are they going to earn a living in Bosnia? who exactly is going to pay for them?
================================
I believe I have already answered this for you.
Read my post again and again until you get it.

Reader

pre 10 godina

"..They haven't been gentle with Milorad Dodik in the past, either..." said Dodik.

Did he really speak about himself in third person? Or is it just a typo?

Daniel

pre 10 godina

Dodik s just singing his same old song. Warning of impending "Islamisation" but lying his heart out (assuming he has one) about the genocide of the 90s that the "Bosnian Serbs" (Chetniks) perpetrated. Yes Bosnia has a million problem - but this jerk and his types are top of the list.
(robert 0, 2 November 2013 21:18)

I must inform you that there has been no chetniks in the balcans since the end of ww2. As long as he is a jerk to you he is a hero for us.

@Shqiptar

pre 10 godina

Ex-NATO Chef: Lord Roberston: “the KLA were responsible for more deaths in Kosovo than the Yugoslav [Serb] authorities had been.” http://balkanblog.org/2011/03/23/ex-nato-chef-lord-roberston-the-kla-were-responsible-for-more-deaths-in-kosovo-than-the-yugoslav-serb-authorities-had-been/ HOnestly, i am too lazy to find the orignal passage out of the House of Lords homepage - and that tells the all - "secular" majority of KiM (and Albania) - when I served in KiM I did not see them - there were only Muslim fanatic nazis who lied to naive Westrners who still belive them (taqiyya)- and with the other hand scooped the money from the states their ancestors came from - S-Arabia and Turkey....
exKFOR

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

"Simple, same people who are paying for all those mosques to be built around the world and same people who are pumping money into our universities in order to influence how we teach. "

these people must be mighty rich. lets engage in simple mathematics, 300000 mouths to feed, let us say they give them 1 year to become self reliant (there's definitely not 300000 jobs available in Bosnia) at 10 EURO's per person per day, so 10 * 300000 * 365 = 1095000000 in one year. yeah Peggy, this really is going to happen because the figures all fit! you'll notice, its not even mentioned in which parts of Bosnia they're going to relocate, but no, you believe in nonsense if you want

Renko

pre 10 godina

Muslims do not cause problems on their own, it is the reaction to them and their reactions to this in turn that cause problems.
(ned taylor, 3 November 2013 12:01)

I like that, yet another confused westerner who does not understand the nature of Islam.
Every country where they live, there is killing. Even when there are no other infidels, they slaughter each other...
The yummy westerners hate the Bosnian Serbs for their slaughtering, but as Britain succumbs to the far higher Muslim birthrate, perhaps the Serbs will be for Christianity what Bali is for Hindus and Buddhists...

Shqiptar

pre 10 godina

(@Shqiptar, 5 November 2013 20:29)

We're talking about Islamization of Bosnia and you go back to your anti-KLA propaganda. I guess it's my fault for trying to reason with a bunch of dumb Chetniks. Go fight in Bosnia, that's the only thing you know how to do, loser.

Bam Bam

pre 10 godina

Its like when Tudjman warned the Croatian people about the Serbs in Croatia and BiH trying to create a Greater Serbia. May I add that Dodik was a part of that plan. Serbia is once again surrounded by Muslims and will have to accept to live with them or perish. Take Croatia as a great example for the rest of Europe. They have gone out of there way to build a mosque and islamic school for muslims in Rijeka as they see them as an important part of Croatias future in understanding and accepting each others culture as a learning tool for future generations. Well done Croatia for accepting a minority group like the Muslims who have always called Croatia their home.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

"There are serious projects to bring in between 300,000 and 500,000 Arabs to Bosnia"

really? where did he read this? who is sponsoring this project? what status would those Arabs have in Bosnia? why would Arabs even MOVE to Bosnia? what scaremongering is this.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

"The same reason they are moving all around the world. "

are you being serious? what is that reason? how are those 500000 Arabs (they can't all be preachers) going to earn a living in Bosnia? who on earth is even going to support them in Bosnia? you really need to stop reading Pam Geller Peggy, quite clearly it has led to unhealthy paranoia
why doesn't Dodik name his sources and tell us about these projects. its really easy to come up with words.

Andy UK

pre 10 godina

Sounds like it could have been a speech from Jan / Feb 1992.

There's some big figures there - is he trying to say that BiH as a whole has no immigrations laws or limits? Or are 300,000 people going to come in illegally?

Peggy

pre 10 godina

why would Arabs even MOVE to Bosnia? what scaremongering is this.
(Nikolle, 1 November 2013 13:21)
==========================
The same reason they are moving all around the world.
There is an organisation here in Australia called the Q Society of Australia which is dedicated to stopping Islamisation of Australia. This is being done by the same people who want to move to Bosnia. They arrive from Indonesia by boat and don't have any documents of them. They insist they are refugees but how do we verify that when there is nothing on them to prove who they are?

Don't act so dumb Nikolle. You and I both know what is happening. Maybe you are that dumb.

ned taylor

pre 10 godina

I was part of a project in BiH in 2006-2008 reviewing and taking away citizenships from those who came to Bosnia from the Muslim world in 1992/3. This review had the full support and participation of Bosniak politicians so I would be very surprised if a plan to move 300,000 of these people back to Bosnia existed anywhere other than in the imagination of M.Dodik esq. Russians are buying thousands of apartments throughout the Balkans and elsewhere but I have yet to read any stories of 'russification'. He was previously claiming that the Bosniaks were being radicalised with no evidence to support that claim. He has now moved on to something else in the hope that someone in the international community will say something along the lines of "Oh yes Mile, you were right all along and we were poor misguided fools. Of course you can have your own country and pour even more money into the pockets of your family and friends unhindered". Or maybe not........

Toronto Croatia

pre 10 godina

I can't wait for the census results to come out of Bosnia. There will be less Bosniaks than many people originally thought. Some of them might have classified themselves as just Muslim instead and there was also a strong campaign for some to select "other" which could water down their numbers a bit.

Also, the Croatian government has stated that one million people living in Bosnia have Croatian passports! Clearly, there are not a million Croatians living in Bosnia. A lot of Bosniaks have played to be Croatian especially in the Bihac area (close to Zagreb) just so they can get a Croatian passport for the added benefits of Croatia being in the EU, to work seasonal in Croatia or travel easier. The Croatian government has made it be know that those who claim to be Croatian and have Croatian passports and identify themselves as Bosniak on the census could face legal action and will be stripped of their Croatian passports.

My prediction is that the number of Serbs and Bosniaks will be really close and a bump to original estimates of the number of Croatians. The Bosniak's might really need these 300,000 people from the Arab world.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

"you really need to stop reading Pam Geller Peggy,"

=================================
Not only will I not stop listening to what Pam has to say but I will continue to encourage others to as well as listen to Robert Spencer, Julia Gorin, Mark Steyn and many others. You know who they are.

Just because you don't like the truth doesn't mean you can ridicule the others who do. It won't work. These people are very credible.

Adem

pre 10 godina

Fat Man talking usual hot air.
Only jealousy.
Turkey and Gulf pour money in Sarajevo.
Russia give Fat Man only enough oil for cook shashlik.

robert 0

pre 10 godina

Dodik s just singing his same old song. Warning of impending "Islamisation" but lying his heart out (assuming he has one) about the genocide of the 90s that the "Bosnian Serbs" (Chetniks) perpetrated. Yes Bosnia has a million problem - but this jerk and his types are top of the list.

ned taylor

pre 10 godina

Truth- 'a lot of people are having problems with muslims living in their country'.....this may or may not be so but doesn't apply to Bosnia as it IS their country. They haven't moved in from abroad over the last 60 or 70 years as is the case in the UK; they have lived there since time immemorial. There may be some interlopers who came in the 1990s and haven't left but they numbered around 1550 (I've seen all the files) and 600 had their citizenship revoked of which many have now left. Muslims do not cause problems on their own, it is the reaction to them and their reactions to this in turn that cause problems.

Dum Dum

pre 10 godina

Who built the biggest mosque in Sarajevo and is funding many others in the region (including Serbia, Kosovo and Albania)? I'll give you a clue. They produce oil?

Sieg Fail

pre 10 godina

Well done Croatia for accepting a minority group like the Muslims who have always called Croatia their home.
(Bam Bam, 1 November 2013 14:25)

Says the American racist who wants to rid Croatia of Serbs.

truth

pre 10 godina

History will repeat itself. Give it 10-15 years tops, there will be another conflict in the Balkans. Albanians are already complaining in Macedonia, Serbia and crna gora about equality and human rights. Dodik knows this and is addressing the issue. The only thing is USA is started problems with everyone in europe and western europe is having a lot of issues with muslims living in their countries, so it will be very interesting to see what happens in the future.

Aussi Baresic

pre 10 godina

Croats and serbs are sworn enemies but watching the development in Bosnia, Kosovo and Turkey Christians regardless of etnicity will have to join forces against islam. Islam is not a religion of peace.

XXX

pre 10 godina

Aussie Baresic.
I don't know about that.
There is a prophesy that Europe will be islamic by end of 21st century, and process seems to be well underway in many countries.
But, is that bad?
Take a look at last century in Europe, and you'll realize this would be civilization's leap forward.
Who treated us better - Croats or Turks? Germans or Turks?
I look at Brit (or American) on one side, and Turk (or Arab) on the other.
I have to admit that one of them I regard to be uncivilized savage.
Guess which one?

Ari Gold

pre 10 godina

The yummy westerners hate the Bosnian Serbs for their slaughtering, but as Britain succumbs to the far higher Muslim birthrate, perhaps the Serbs will be for Christianity what Bali is for Hindus and Buddhists...
(Renko, 4 November 2013 06:18)

The Bosnian Serbs didn't "slaughter". But they did decide that the Titoist entity of "Bosnia & Herzegovina" is not worth staying in if that means becoming minorities in a Muslim-run country overnight and thereby losing the ties to its mother country Serbia.

The Serbs in Bosnia fought for their survival and right to chose just as the Bosniaks what country they would like to be a part of.

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

"Simple, same people who are paying for all those mosques to be built around the world and same people who are pumping money into our universities in order to influence how we teach. "

these people must be mighty rich. lets engage in simple mathematics, 300000 mouths to feed, let us say they give them 1 year to become self reliant (there's definitely not 300000 jobs available in Bosnia) at 10 EURO's per person per day, so 10 * 300000 * 365 = 1095000000 in one year. yeah Peggy, this really is going to happen because the figures all fit! you'll notice, its not even mentioned in which parts of Bosnia they're going to relocate, but no, you believe in nonsense if you want

Shqiptar

pre 10 godina

"During the civil war in Bosnia, there came to a large number of Muslims - mujahedin from the Arab world"

(RiRi, 2 November 2013 12:48)

And whose fault is that?? If I was at that point of desperation for being ethnically extinguished, with no help, I would have brought in Arabs, Chinese, Indians and half of Africa to help me fight the Serbs. Luckily that didn't happen in Kosovo, and NATO went in before the situation became too desperate.

Very few people in the Balkans want Arabs moving into the Balkans. The small exceptions are the radicalized Muslim groups, which have no real support within the Bosnian and Albanian secular majorities. Dodik should try to work together with his Bosnian co-nationals to improve the situation, instead of trying to anger and marginalize the various ethnic communities.

MikeC

pre 10 godina

Nikolle

Bosnia: 'Islamisation' prompts calls for Croat entity
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Politics/?id=3.0.3125137695

ISLAMIC TERRORISM AND RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION
http://islamicpersecution.wordpress.com/tag/islamization-of-bosnia/

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

I read them too Peggy, but only for a laugh. May I recommend the gates of vienna website, seeing as you're into nonsense? Yes 500000 Arabs scheduled to locate to Bosnia, yet its not explained who will pay for them. It really sounds credible! Amazing what people nelieve

Reader

pre 10 godina

"..They haven't been gentle with Milorad Dodik in the past, either..." said Dodik.

Did he really speak about himself in third person? Or is it just a typo?

Nikolle

pre 10 godina

do you actually think 300000 Arabs moving to Bosnia is a low figure? tell me something Peggy, what immigration status are they going to have and more importantly, how are they going to earn a living in Bosnia? who exactly is going to pay for them? this is scaremongering of the worst kind, one that takes all of half a brain cell to debunk. 300000 people moving in and no one knows what their status will be? yeah, up there with father christmas this one believe me

Mateja blican

pre 10 godina

You people need to realize that Dodik has a good point. Muslims are growing at a fast rate and those from the middle east who are huge in oil are shipping money out to countries like Bosnia helping make life possible. Think about all those mosks across bosnia. You really think the bosnian people have the money to build such a thing. Its all coming from outside help.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

how are they going to earn a living in Bosnia? who exactly is going to pay for them?
================================
I believe I have already answered this for you.
Read my post again and again until you get it.

Daniel

pre 10 godina

Dodik s just singing his same old song. Warning of impending "Islamisation" but lying his heart out (assuming he has one) about the genocide of the 90s that the "Bosnian Serbs" (Chetniks) perpetrated. Yes Bosnia has a million problem - but this jerk and his types are top of the list.
(robert 0, 2 November 2013 21:18)

I must inform you that there has been no chetniks in the balcans since the end of ww2. As long as he is a jerk to you he is a hero for us.

Peggy

pre 10 godina

I read them too Peggy, but only for a laugh
============================
Then keep laughing Nikolle. I really don't care what you think about them. I suspect many others don't either. Just because you find them funny doesn't mean anything.

You keep mentioning 500000. It says between 300000 and 500000. Why do you take the higher figure instead of the lower? Maybe because you want to try to make it as ridiculous as you can?
Who is going to pay for them? Simple, same people who are paying for all those mosques to be built around the world and same people who are pumping money into our universities in order to influence how we teach.
You know who I am talking about.

What difference does my name make!

pre 10 godina

Can't understand why Bosnia is regarded as a Muslim country when Christians always were and still are the majority in that country. Write whatever you want, but you can't change the fact that Muslims are the minority in a Christian country, plain and simple, that's Bosna moja for ya!

scepticism

pre 10 godina

@Bam Bam - and others with similar thinking

you are wrong when you say that "serbia has to accept living with muslims or perish". Actually Serbia doesnt HAVE to live with any one that is ill suited to a certain cultural, ethnical and religious context. You are funny when you use the word "perish", nice word but wrong in this case.

In fact, muslims have been and will always be a non european religion, muslims have failed to integrate themselves in any civilised society - this is why they make ghettos wherever they go. No harm in this, we just dont want you next to us. So get out.

RiRi

pre 10 godina

Unfortunately, Dodik is nothing wrong. During the civil war in Bosnia, there came to a large number of Muslims - mujahedin from the Arab world to fight against the Serbs and Croats. Many of the mujahideen remained in Bosnia, there were married and created a family. A much larger problem is that these people are the promoters of radical Islam. This is not the only potential problem issue Bosnia, but regions of Europe.

Daniel

pre 10 godina

Nikolle do you really need to ask why a syrian, egyptian, libyan or yemenite would move to Bosnia?Bosnia is turning into an european Iran more and more for each day, they even have their own religious sharia police that attacks women that don´t wear the hijab. http://www.tandempost.com/TPnews/10306-culture/bosnia39s-39sharia-police39-verbally-attacks-girls

Renko

pre 10 godina

Muslims do not cause problems on their own, it is the reaction to them and their reactions to this in turn that cause problems.
(ned taylor, 3 November 2013 12:01)

I like that, yet another confused westerner who does not understand the nature of Islam.
Every country where they live, there is killing. Even when there are no other infidels, they slaughter each other...
The yummy westerners hate the Bosnian Serbs for their slaughtering, but as Britain succumbs to the far higher Muslim birthrate, perhaps the Serbs will be for Christianity what Bali is for Hindus and Buddhists...

Renko

pre 10 godina

Muslims do not cause problems on their own, it is the reaction to them and their reactions to this in turn that cause problems.
(ned taylor, 3 November 2013 12:01)

I like that, yet another confused westerner who does not understand the nature of Islam.
Every country where they live, there is killing. Even when there are no other infidels, they slaughter each other...
The yummy westerners hate the Bosnian Serbs for their slaughtering, but as Britain succumbs to the far higher Muslim birthrate, perhaps the Serbs will be for Christianity what Bali is for Hindus and Buddhists...

Roger7

pre 10 godina

ned taylor said, "Muslims do not cause problems on their own, it is the reaction to them and their reactions to this in turn that cause problems.

What a sick comment. With this abhorrent way of thinking, no one should be held responsible for their own behavior.

@Shqiptar

pre 10 godina

Ex-NATO Chef: Lord Roberston: “the KLA were responsible for more deaths in Kosovo than the Yugoslav [Serb] authorities had been.” http://balkanblog.org/2011/03/23/ex-nato-chef-lord-roberston-the-kla-were-responsible-for-more-deaths-in-kosovo-than-the-yugoslav-serb-authorities-had-been/ HOnestly, i am too lazy to find the orignal passage out of the House of Lords homepage - and that tells the all - "secular" majority of KiM (and Albania) - when I served in KiM I did not see them - there were only Muslim fanatic nazis who lied to naive Westrners who still belive them (taqiyya)- and with the other hand scooped the money from the states their ancestors came from - S-Arabia and Turkey....
exKFOR

Shqiptar

pre 10 godina

(@Shqiptar, 5 November 2013 20:29)

We're talking about Islamization of Bosnia and you go back to your anti-KLA propaganda. I guess it's my fault for trying to reason with a bunch of dumb Chetniks. Go fight in Bosnia, that's the only thing you know how to do, loser.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 10 godina

The True Nature of Islam !.

http://www.islam-watch.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=945:categories-of-islamic-murder&catid=138:jake-neuman&Itemid=58

Islam is a Political Religion opting for World Rule !.

Arn.Sweden.

marKo

pre 10 godina

It does not make sense to me. I'm not trying to be mean here, I am sure many regular people in the Bosnian federation are trying to improve its economy, but almost 20 years after the civil war, they still don't have the economy they did before the war. Crime in the streets, disharmony amongst Catholics and Muslims in Mostar, The Government is rife with corruption, and the investors are not exactly lining up to invest. Basically the only growth is that regular people continue to work hard, and some have scraped up something. But what would these 100,000 immigrants do for a living in a foreign country where they can't speak the language or read and write?