Numerous war crimes were committed by Serbian military and Serbian paramilitary forces during the Yugoslav Wars. The crimes included massacres, ethnic cleansing, systematic rape, crimes against humanity and genocide.
The war crimes were usually carried out on ethnic and religious grounds and were primarily directed against civilians (Albanians, Croats, Bosniaks). Several United Nations bodies have judged that the aim of these war crimes in various wars was to create an ethnically pure Serbian state, or "Greater Serbia", encompassing Serbia as well as the Serb-populated areas in former Yugoslavia.[7][14]
After the wars in the 1990s, many senior military and political leaders were convicted of war crimes. Some of them are still on trial, such as Vojislav Šešelj and Radovan Karadžić, while some, including Ratko Mladić and Goran Hadžić only recently been apprehended by Serbian authorities.
none of this is surprising but what is surprising is you never acknowledge 1) you started a war 2) utilized JNA soldiers to collaborate with Cetniks 3) illegally tried to get your Serb populations in parts of Croatia to provide information and collaborate with beograd to make Croatian towns part of a velika Srbija
How do you expect anyone to respect you if you cant admit you initiated and created the war...just because croatia and Slovenia no longer wanted part of communist Yugoslavia!
I find it hilarious that you Serbs really think you had no hand in the destruction of Vukovar and that you can't understand why Croatians don't want cirilica in that town. Serbs destroyed that town down to rubble and you expect people to forget so quickly...imagine if it were a Serb town that Croatians destroyed and murdered!
Going forward in life is necessary for everyone on all sides, I have never once came here without reading about Jasenovac...so if you live on something that happened 70 years ago, how do you expect Croatians to get over Vukovar and Knin so fast? They are both Croatian cities with a majority of Croatian people...what makes anyone think Croatians shouldn't have a say and why should they appease a small minority...especially one that murdered their families not so long ago, right?!?!
What if we were talking about Croatians and Jasenovac...and the Croatians were adamant about their version whether its right or wrong...it would be cause for another war!
Although my pokojni father, a Croatian patriot, believed Kosovo was Srbija, I have to say I hope you never win a single arguement about that place not because its not rightfully yours but because you deserve to feel the grief and pain your people have inflicted on your neighbors! Not even Crna Gora wants you...everyone has distanced themself from Srbija but you somehow have the nerve to call Croatians names and a source of problems while we dont have any war criminals, what about you?
Drop your distorted , twisted history and refresh your knowledge
The International Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, also known as the Genocide Convention did not affect Croatia much, it has acted pretty lulled as to international law stating that crimes committed in the 20th century cannot be annulled. During World War I (1914-1918), the government of the Ottoman Empire committed genocide to million to 1.8 million Armenian citizens in eastern Anatolia. These events have been affirmed and condemned as genocide by the European Parliament and more than ten countries—including Vatican. Nazi Germany committed systematic genocide during World War II, which resulted in deaths of an estimated 5 to 6 million Jews, about 500,000 Roma, and millions of other people considered undesirable in German territory. The independent state of Croatia committed genocide during World War II, killing an estimated 600,000 to 700,000 Serbian citizens. If you refer to the war crimes, they were committed by all war-waging ethnic groups in former Yugoslavia ,but they are not supposed to be genocide.
This is propaganda, The Croatian citizens have a right for a referendum to solve this issue. After all most other countries would follow or do the exact same things as the Croats in Vukovar. Common sense. Croatia was invaded by Serbs who committed horrific crimes against the Croats. The Croats never in history stepped inside Serbia proper with a riffle. Just think about it.
Mario, Croatia was a part of Yugoslavia the time, and the Yugoslav Army was fighting to keep it within the federation and halt it's illegal secession taken without approval of the Yugoslav Presidency and against the wishes of the federal government whose prime minister was Ante Markovic (a Croat) at the time. So Serbia did not invade Croatian territory. It was Croatian paramilitary and TO forces that illegal detached Yugoslav territory through a violent campaign of secession. Serbs who lived in Croatia and wanted to remain a part of Yugoslavia then fought to have areas of Croatia where they were a majority remain a part of Yugoslavia. Just as Croats who lived in Croatia fought to have areas where they were a majority secede. There weren't any bad guys or good guys in this conflict.
Mario, a few more litres and I'll be satisfied. Pretending WWII never happened won't erase that part of your history. In the end, all this feuding is a little pointless. There have historically been much worse enemies than Croatia and Serbia who are now allies. Let's just get past it already.
If you could you would have stepped into Serbia as most of you claim that Vojvodina is Croatian. To date I have never had an answer to my question “how did this mighty Croatia win its freedom in 1918? What battles did they fight against the Austrians?”
Everything you have today was given to your Croats by naïve Serbian royals and Tito - you have won nothing at all on your own. You guys couldn’t even remove the Serbian army in Krajina – the only time you took action was when they withdrew and then you took out your fury on old men and women – yes you croats are something to fear.
Perhaps your memory is a tad foggy but the Croat regular army units were in Bosnia fighting the Bosniaks for a greater Croatia. How quickly we seem to forget.
We have not finished with Croatia by a long shot. How is the Croatian budget going? Very soon you guys will make Albania look like little America, as the saying goes.
You appologize for Jasenovac and forcefully converting thousands of orthodox Christians to catholisism and I'll appologize for kicking your ass in the last war. I guess it ok for you to mass murder serbs but when croats are killed its unforgivable.
From Mario: "Not a single Croatian soldier stepped foot on Serbian territory"...
Mario, please explain to me how Serbs who had been living in the Krajina for more than 500 years, long before it was ever Croatia, could have possibly invaded Croatia? It was only after Croatia broke the Yugoslav constitution and international law with their illegal secession that Serbs found themselves living in a hostile state who only 50 years earlier tried to exterminate them. Serbs were fired from their jobs, their homes were vandalized and many Serbs were killed. Ustasha war criminals were welcomed back by the Tudjman gov't. and streets were renamed after these butchers. So please tell me how does defending one's own land where they have lived for more than five centuries, equate to invading Croatia in an attempt to create a Greater Serbia? Boy, the public relations firms that the Croat gov't. paid millions to have really brainwashed your simple little mind. And you still haven't explained to me why you have an Italian name. I guess if I were a Croat I'd try to change my identity too.
No one is banning cirilica in Croatia. Vukovar is a special place for Croats just like Srebrenica is to Croatian Muslims and Racak is to Albanians. To much blood was spilt in Vukovar. Eastern Slavonija is not ready for bi-lingual. This is not a personal attack just common sense. Its the same when the Croatian veterans association sent a request to the mayor of Novi Sad asking for a memorial to be built in his city for the victims of Vukovar. He said No. Certain projects will happen but all in good time. I ask the Serbs be patient and let people heal first. Govrrnments on both sides need to chill a little and focus on more important things like jobs and creating a better standard of living for its citizens.
Sieg Fail--Like grandfather, like grandson, we can say the same for you serbs. Aleks--Serbs you do not know another way than to live in the past, past you can twist and professionally massage it the way you like in your favor. Manipulation and lies fits in your system of justice!
"Not a single Croatian soldier stepped foot on Serbian territory" if I was in your place I would shut up and prayed to God for forgiveness. Have you not drank enough Croatian blood?
(mario, 26 October 2013 01:13)
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And Serbs from Serbia did not go there either. It was the Serbs who have lived on their land for centuries who fought you Nazis for their lives and homes.
As soon as Croatian wanted to separate Serbs began to lose their positions and Nazi symbols came out. They had to fight.
Get your facts straight. But then again, never let the truth stand in the way of a good story.
We didn't drink your blood. It is you people who have always tried to exterminate us and drank our blood and the blood of tens of thousands of innocent babies and children in WW2. Nothing seems to have changed with you people.
You did the same thing in WW2 and now so don't come here preaching to us. You are the warmongers not us.
Have you not drank enough Croatian blood?
(mario, 26 October 2013 01:13)
There's not enough blood that can compensate for what the Croats did in the 1940s. That they are repeating the same things today as in NDH means they deserve whatever they get coming to them.
Anti-Serbian sentiment in Croatia has existed from way before that.You know they murdered my great grandmother,and my mums oldest sister.She was 8 years old at the time in 1941.Brave nation aren't they the Croats....kill women and children then elevate their status by fighting with inanimate objects that are causing them no inconvenience whatsoever. It's time these peasants came out of the stone age before they become a bigger laughing-stock than they already are!!
Croatian solider defended his own country (territory) and did not engage in war on someone else’s territory. It says much more for Croatians than for you Serbs killing someone's people for "Greater Serbia" "Not a single Croatian soldier stepped foot on Serbian territory" if I was in your place I would shut up and prayed to God for forgiveness. Have you not drank enough Croatian blood?
I have to admit that I like that the Croatian government is going to stand by and keep putting the signs up, and it's good for the paper to publish some of the Croatian past. People need to wake up and learn from past mistakes in the hopes that they quit repeating them like they're trying to now. Serbia and Croatia, two countries who border each other, share a language, many customs, are mostly Christian...they must start putting out these little flare ups and start uniting themselves with what they have in common, not their differences. Keep them 2 separate countries, respect each other, but don't bicker over minor differences. The past is the past, and wars were fought. Both sides lost terribly, and terrible crimes were committed by both. However, history if full of wars and crimes. Civilization moves forward, not backward. They need to move forward (British-US Colonies, US North-South, France-Germany, France-England, Germany-England, Spain-England, Spain-France, etc all have brutal pasts with each other).
I have to admit that I like that the Croatian government is going to stand by and keep putting the signs up, and it's good for the paper to publish some of the Croatian past. People need to wake up and learn from past mistakes in the hopes that they quit repeating them like they're trying to now. Serbia and Croatia, two countries who border each other, share a language, many customs, are mostly Christian...they must start putting out these little flare ups and start uniting themselves with what they have in common, not their differences. Keep them 2 separate countries, respect each other, but don't bicker over minor differences. The past is the past, and wars were fought. Both sides lost terribly, and terrible crimes were committed by both. However, history if full of wars and crimes. Civilization moves forward, not backward. They need to move forward (British-US Colonies, US North-South, France-Germany, France-England, Germany-England, Spain-England, Spain-France, etc all have brutal pasts with each other).
Croatian solider defended his own country (territory) and did not engage in war on someone else’s territory. It says much more for Croatians than for you Serbs killing someone's people for "Greater Serbia" "Not a single Croatian soldier stepped foot on Serbian territory" if I was in your place I would shut up and prayed to God for forgiveness. Have you not drank enough Croatian blood?
From Mario: "Not a single Croatian soldier stepped foot on Serbian territory"...
Mario, please explain to me how Serbs who had been living in the Krajina for more than 500 years, long before it was ever Croatia, could have possibly invaded Croatia? It was only after Croatia broke the Yugoslav constitution and international law with their illegal secession that Serbs found themselves living in a hostile state who only 50 years earlier tried to exterminate them. Serbs were fired from their jobs, their homes were vandalized and many Serbs were killed. Ustasha war criminals were welcomed back by the Tudjman gov't. and streets were renamed after these butchers. So please tell me how does defending one's own land where they have lived for more than five centuries, equate to invading Croatia in an attempt to create a Greater Serbia? Boy, the public relations firms that the Croat gov't. paid millions to have really brainwashed your simple little mind. And you still haven't explained to me why you have an Italian name. I guess if I were a Croat I'd try to change my identity too.
Mario, Croatia was a part of Yugoslavia the time, and the Yugoslav Army was fighting to keep it within the federation and halt it's illegal secession taken without approval of the Yugoslav Presidency and against the wishes of the federal government whose prime minister was Ante Markovic (a Croat) at the time. So Serbia did not invade Croatian territory. It was Croatian paramilitary and TO forces that illegal detached Yugoslav territory through a violent campaign of secession. Serbs who lived in Croatia and wanted to remain a part of Yugoslavia then fought to have areas of Croatia where they were a majority remain a part of Yugoslavia. Just as Croats who lived in Croatia fought to have areas where they were a majority secede. There weren't any bad guys or good guys in this conflict.
Drop your distorted , twisted history and refresh your knowledge
The International Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, also known as the Genocide Convention did not affect Croatia much, it has acted pretty lulled as to international law stating that crimes committed in the 20th century cannot be annulled. During World War I (1914-1918), the government of the Ottoman Empire committed genocide to million to 1.8 million Armenian citizens in eastern Anatolia. These events have been affirmed and condemned as genocide by the European Parliament and more than ten countries—including Vatican. Nazi Germany committed systematic genocide during World War II, which resulted in deaths of an estimated 5 to 6 million Jews, about 500,000 Roma, and millions of other people considered undesirable in German territory. The independent state of Croatia committed genocide during World War II, killing an estimated 600,000 to 700,000 Serbian citizens. If you refer to the war crimes, they were committed by all war-waging ethnic groups in former Yugoslavia ,but they are not supposed to be genocide.
You appologize for Jasenovac and forcefully converting thousands of orthodox Christians to catholisism and I'll appologize for kicking your ass in the last war. I guess it ok for you to mass murder serbs but when croats are killed its unforgivable.
Anti-Serbian sentiment in Croatia has existed from way before that.You know they murdered my great grandmother,and my mums oldest sister.She was 8 years old at the time in 1941.Brave nation aren't they the Croats....kill women and children then elevate their status by fighting with inanimate objects that are causing them no inconvenience whatsoever. It's time these peasants came out of the stone age before they become a bigger laughing-stock than they already are!!
This is propaganda, The Croatian citizens have a right for a referendum to solve this issue. After all most other countries would follow or do the exact same things as the Croats in Vukovar. Common sense. Croatia was invaded by Serbs who committed horrific crimes against the Croats. The Croats never in history stepped inside Serbia proper with a riffle. Just think about it.
Have you not drank enough Croatian blood?
(mario, 26 October 2013 01:13)
There's not enough blood that can compensate for what the Croats did in the 1940s. That they are repeating the same things today as in NDH means they deserve whatever they get coming to them.
"Not a single Croatian soldier stepped foot on Serbian territory" if I was in your place I would shut up and prayed to God for forgiveness. Have you not drank enough Croatian blood?
(mario, 26 October 2013 01:13)
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And Serbs from Serbia did not go there either. It was the Serbs who have lived on their land for centuries who fought you Nazis for their lives and homes.
As soon as Croatian wanted to separate Serbs began to lose their positions and Nazi symbols came out. They had to fight.
Get your facts straight. But then again, never let the truth stand in the way of a good story.
We didn't drink your blood. It is you people who have always tried to exterminate us and drank our blood and the blood of tens of thousands of innocent babies and children in WW2. Nothing seems to have changed with you people.
You did the same thing in WW2 and now so don't come here preaching to us. You are the warmongers not us.
If you could you would have stepped into Serbia as most of you claim that Vojvodina is Croatian. To date I have never had an answer to my question “how did this mighty Croatia win its freedom in 1918? What battles did they fight against the Austrians?”
Everything you have today was given to your Croats by naïve Serbian royals and Tito - you have won nothing at all on your own. You guys couldn’t even remove the Serbian army in Krajina – the only time you took action was when they withdrew and then you took out your fury on old men and women – yes you croats are something to fear.
Perhaps your memory is a tad foggy but the Croat regular army units were in Bosnia fighting the Bosniaks for a greater Croatia. How quickly we seem to forget.
We have not finished with Croatia by a long shot. How is the Croatian budget going? Very soon you guys will make Albania look like little America, as the saying goes.
I find it hilarious that you Serbs really think you had no hand in the destruction of Vukovar and that you can't understand why Croatians don't want cirilica in that town. Serbs destroyed that town down to rubble and you expect people to forget so quickly...imagine if it were a Serb town that Croatians destroyed and murdered!
Going forward in life is necessary for everyone on all sides, I have never once came here without reading about Jasenovac...so if you live on something that happened 70 years ago, how do you expect Croatians to get over Vukovar and Knin so fast? They are both Croatian cities with a majority of Croatian people...what makes anyone think Croatians shouldn't have a say and why should they appease a small minority...especially one that murdered their families not so long ago, right?!?!
What if we were talking about Croatians and Jasenovac...and the Croatians were adamant about their version whether its right or wrong...it would be cause for another war!
Although my pokojni father, a Croatian patriot, believed Kosovo was Srbija, I have to say I hope you never win a single arguement about that place not because its not rightfully yours but because you deserve to feel the grief and pain your people have inflicted on your neighbors! Not even Crna Gora wants you...everyone has distanced themself from Srbija but you somehow have the nerve to call Croatians names and a source of problems while we dont have any war criminals, what about you?
Numerous war crimes were committed by Serbian military and Serbian paramilitary forces during the Yugoslav Wars. The crimes included massacres, ethnic cleansing, systematic rape, crimes against humanity and genocide.
The war crimes were usually carried out on ethnic and religious grounds and were primarily directed against civilians (Albanians, Croats, Bosniaks). Several United Nations bodies have judged that the aim of these war crimes in various wars was to create an ethnically pure Serbian state, or "Greater Serbia", encompassing Serbia as well as the Serb-populated areas in former Yugoslavia.[7][14]
After the wars in the 1990s, many senior military and political leaders were convicted of war crimes. Some of them are still on trial, such as Vojislav Šešelj and Radovan Karadžić, while some, including Ratko Mladić and Goran Hadžić only recently been apprehended by Serbian authorities.
none of this is surprising but what is surprising is you never acknowledge 1) you started a war 2) utilized JNA soldiers to collaborate with Cetniks 3) illegally tried to get your Serb populations in parts of Croatia to provide information and collaborate with beograd to make Croatian towns part of a velika Srbija
How do you expect anyone to respect you if you cant admit you initiated and created the war...just because croatia and Slovenia no longer wanted part of communist Yugoslavia!
No one is banning cirilica in Croatia. Vukovar is a special place for Croats just like Srebrenica is to Croatian Muslims and Racak is to Albanians. To much blood was spilt in Vukovar. Eastern Slavonija is not ready for bi-lingual. This is not a personal attack just common sense. Its the same when the Croatian veterans association sent a request to the mayor of Novi Sad asking for a memorial to be built in his city for the victims of Vukovar. He said No. Certain projects will happen but all in good time. I ask the Serbs be patient and let people heal first. Govrrnments on both sides need to chill a little and focus on more important things like jobs and creating a better standard of living for its citizens.
Mario, a few more litres and I'll be satisfied. Pretending WWII never happened won't erase that part of your history. In the end, all this feuding is a little pointless. There have historically been much worse enemies than Croatia and Serbia who are now allies. Let's just get past it already.
Sieg Fail--Like grandfather, like grandson, we can say the same for you serbs. Aleks--Serbs you do not know another way than to live in the past, past you can twist and professionally massage it the way you like in your favor. Manipulation and lies fits in your system of justice!
Croatian solider defended his own country (territory) and did not engage in war on someone else’s territory. It says much more for Croatians than for you Serbs killing someone's people for "Greater Serbia" "Not a single Croatian soldier stepped foot on Serbian territory" if I was in your place I would shut up and prayed to God for forgiveness. Have you not drank enough Croatian blood?
This is propaganda, The Croatian citizens have a right for a referendum to solve this issue. After all most other countries would follow or do the exact same things as the Croats in Vukovar. Common sense. Croatia was invaded by Serbs who committed horrific crimes against the Croats. The Croats never in history stepped inside Serbia proper with a riffle. Just think about it.
I have to admit that I like that the Croatian government is going to stand by and keep putting the signs up, and it's good for the paper to publish some of the Croatian past. People need to wake up and learn from past mistakes in the hopes that they quit repeating them like they're trying to now. Serbia and Croatia, two countries who border each other, share a language, many customs, are mostly Christian...they must start putting out these little flare ups and start uniting themselves with what they have in common, not their differences. Keep them 2 separate countries, respect each other, but don't bicker over minor differences. The past is the past, and wars were fought. Both sides lost terribly, and terrible crimes were committed by both. However, history if full of wars and crimes. Civilization moves forward, not backward. They need to move forward (British-US Colonies, US North-South, France-Germany, France-England, Germany-England, Spain-England, Spain-France, etc all have brutal pasts with each other).
Sieg Fail--Like grandfather, like grandson, we can say the same for you serbs. Aleks--Serbs you do not know another way than to live in the past, past you can twist and professionally massage it the way you like in your favor. Manipulation and lies fits in your system of justice!
Drop your distorted , twisted history and refresh your knowledge
The International Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, also known as the Genocide Convention did not affect Croatia much, it has acted pretty lulled as to international law stating that crimes committed in the 20th century cannot be annulled. During World War I (1914-1918), the government of the Ottoman Empire committed genocide to million to 1.8 million Armenian citizens in eastern Anatolia. These events have been affirmed and condemned as genocide by the European Parliament and more than ten countries—including Vatican. Nazi Germany committed systematic genocide during World War II, which resulted in deaths of an estimated 5 to 6 million Jews, about 500,000 Roma, and millions of other people considered undesirable in German territory. The independent state of Croatia committed genocide during World War II, killing an estimated 600,000 to 700,000 Serbian citizens. If you refer to the war crimes, they were committed by all war-waging ethnic groups in former Yugoslavia ,but they are not supposed to be genocide.
"Not a single Croatian soldier stepped foot on Serbian territory" if I was in your place I would shut up and prayed to God for forgiveness. Have you not drank enough Croatian blood?
(mario, 26 October 2013 01:13)
============================
And Serbs from Serbia did not go there either. It was the Serbs who have lived on their land for centuries who fought you Nazis for their lives and homes.
As soon as Croatian wanted to separate Serbs began to lose their positions and Nazi symbols came out. They had to fight.
Get your facts straight. But then again, never let the truth stand in the way of a good story.
We didn't drink your blood. It is you people who have always tried to exterminate us and drank our blood and the blood of tens of thousands of innocent babies and children in WW2. Nothing seems to have changed with you people.
You did the same thing in WW2 and now so don't come here preaching to us. You are the warmongers not us.
Have you not drank enough Croatian blood?
(mario, 26 October 2013 01:13)
There's not enough blood that can compensate for what the Croats did in the 1940s. That they are repeating the same things today as in NDH means they deserve whatever they get coming to them.
From Mario: "Not a single Croatian soldier stepped foot on Serbian territory"...
Mario, please explain to me how Serbs who had been living in the Krajina for more than 500 years, long before it was ever Croatia, could have possibly invaded Croatia? It was only after Croatia broke the Yugoslav constitution and international law with their illegal secession that Serbs found themselves living in a hostile state who only 50 years earlier tried to exterminate them. Serbs were fired from their jobs, their homes were vandalized and many Serbs were killed. Ustasha war criminals were welcomed back by the Tudjman gov't. and streets were renamed after these butchers. So please tell me how does defending one's own land where they have lived for more than five centuries, equate to invading Croatia in an attempt to create a Greater Serbia? Boy, the public relations firms that the Croat gov't. paid millions to have really brainwashed your simple little mind. And you still haven't explained to me why you have an Italian name. I guess if I were a Croat I'd try to change my identity too.
Mario, Croatia was a part of Yugoslavia the time, and the Yugoslav Army was fighting to keep it within the federation and halt it's illegal secession taken without approval of the Yugoslav Presidency and against the wishes of the federal government whose prime minister was Ante Markovic (a Croat) at the time. So Serbia did not invade Croatian territory. It was Croatian paramilitary and TO forces that illegal detached Yugoslav territory through a violent campaign of secession. Serbs who lived in Croatia and wanted to remain a part of Yugoslavia then fought to have areas of Croatia where they were a majority remain a part of Yugoslavia. Just as Croats who lived in Croatia fought to have areas where they were a majority secede. There weren't any bad guys or good guys in this conflict.
If you could you would have stepped into Serbia as most of you claim that Vojvodina is Croatian. To date I have never had an answer to my question “how did this mighty Croatia win its freedom in 1918? What battles did they fight against the Austrians?”
Everything you have today was given to your Croats by naïve Serbian royals and Tito - you have won nothing at all on your own. You guys couldn’t even remove the Serbian army in Krajina – the only time you took action was when they withdrew and then you took out your fury on old men and women – yes you croats are something to fear.
Perhaps your memory is a tad foggy but the Croat regular army units were in Bosnia fighting the Bosniaks for a greater Croatia. How quickly we seem to forget.
We have not finished with Croatia by a long shot. How is the Croatian budget going? Very soon you guys will make Albania look like little America, as the saying goes.
I find it hilarious that you Serbs really think you had no hand in the destruction of Vukovar and that you can't understand why Croatians don't want cirilica in that town. Serbs destroyed that town down to rubble and you expect people to forget so quickly...imagine if it were a Serb town that Croatians destroyed and murdered!
Going forward in life is necessary for everyone on all sides, I have never once came here without reading about Jasenovac...so if you live on something that happened 70 years ago, how do you expect Croatians to get over Vukovar and Knin so fast? They are both Croatian cities with a majority of Croatian people...what makes anyone think Croatians shouldn't have a say and why should they appease a small minority...especially one that murdered their families not so long ago, right?!?!
What if we were talking about Croatians and Jasenovac...and the Croatians were adamant about their version whether its right or wrong...it would be cause for another war!
Although my pokojni father, a Croatian patriot, believed Kosovo was Srbija, I have to say I hope you never win a single arguement about that place not because its not rightfully yours but because you deserve to feel the grief and pain your people have inflicted on your neighbors! Not even Crna Gora wants you...everyone has distanced themself from Srbija but you somehow have the nerve to call Croatians names and a source of problems while we dont have any war criminals, what about you?
Numerous war crimes were committed by Serbian military and Serbian paramilitary forces during the Yugoslav Wars. The crimes included massacres, ethnic cleansing, systematic rape, crimes against humanity and genocide.
The war crimes were usually carried out on ethnic and religious grounds and were primarily directed against civilians (Albanians, Croats, Bosniaks). Several United Nations bodies have judged that the aim of these war crimes in various wars was to create an ethnically pure Serbian state, or "Greater Serbia", encompassing Serbia as well as the Serb-populated areas in former Yugoslavia.[7][14]
After the wars in the 1990s, many senior military and political leaders were convicted of war crimes. Some of them are still on trial, such as Vojislav Šešelj and Radovan Karadžić, while some, including Ratko Mladić and Goran Hadžić only recently been apprehended by Serbian authorities.
none of this is surprising but what is surprising is you never acknowledge 1) you started a war 2) utilized JNA soldiers to collaborate with Cetniks 3) illegally tried to get your Serb populations in parts of Croatia to provide information and collaborate with beograd to make Croatian towns part of a velika Srbija
How do you expect anyone to respect you if you cant admit you initiated and created the war...just because croatia and Slovenia no longer wanted part of communist Yugoslavia!
Anti-Serbian sentiment in Croatia has existed from way before that.You know they murdered my great grandmother,and my mums oldest sister.She was 8 years old at the time in 1941.Brave nation aren't they the Croats....kill women and children then elevate their status by fighting with inanimate objects that are causing them no inconvenience whatsoever. It's time these peasants came out of the stone age before they become a bigger laughing-stock than they already are!!
You appologize for Jasenovac and forcefully converting thousands of orthodox Christians to catholisism and I'll appologize for kicking your ass in the last war. I guess it ok for you to mass murder serbs but when croats are killed its unforgivable.
No one is banning cirilica in Croatia. Vukovar is a special place for Croats just like Srebrenica is to Croatian Muslims and Racak is to Albanians. To much blood was spilt in Vukovar. Eastern Slavonija is not ready for bi-lingual. This is not a personal attack just common sense. Its the same when the Croatian veterans association sent a request to the mayor of Novi Sad asking for a memorial to be built in his city for the victims of Vukovar. He said No. Certain projects will happen but all in good time. I ask the Serbs be patient and let people heal first. Govrrnments on both sides need to chill a little and focus on more important things like jobs and creating a better standard of living for its citizens.
Mario, a few more litres and I'll be satisfied. Pretending WWII never happened won't erase that part of your history. In the end, all this feuding is a little pointless. There have historically been much worse enemies than Croatia and Serbia who are now allies. Let's just get past it already.
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