Britain fears new terror attacks after murder of soldier

The recent events in UK & Sweden ( Swedish cities are burning for six days in a row) are just a confirmation the deliberate EU ideology on multiculturalism is dead and buried. Multi-cultural-open-borders nirvana has not happened. Instead large parts of the West are becoming dysfunctional, labour has collapsed, and indigenous European populations are revolting about the experiment.
In the meantime the elites ,the ever-compliant EU media and posters like Ian will continue to bury their heads in the sand and still pretend that those events are just isolated incidents and we all actually love our new multicultural societies.
Multiculturalism in Europe won't work, we are in for a few exciting decades. Too bad the EU authors of this liberal experiment won't be around to answer for it.

If the Syrian army destroys the Anglo-American financed "Syrian Rebels" then hundreds of British-born Jihadists will return to Britain rather than face punishment at the hands of the Syrian people. These Jihadists have been trained by the British army and are battle-hardened. I predict things are going to get very unpleasant for Britain very soon.

Leonidas, the problem is that our country also succumbed to the multicultural pseudo-ideology during the 90s. I remember many members of our local political elite (Manos, Andrianopoulos etc) preaching the benefits of globalization that would put an end to national states, identities, borders and other "obsolete" notions. The globalized multicultural society became a sort of utopia and only narrow-minded nationalists couldn't see that. Of course those people have now vanished as well as their pseudo-ideology. Personally i wouldn't mind one bit if the western world was forced to drink the poison it has created, but i'm afraid that would have implications on our country as well.

I couldn't agree with you more Thanasis.A visit to the centre of Athens reminds you more of Middle East than Western Europe.It all started back in the 1980s on the instructions of the EU and the total compliance of the subservient Greek liberal elites.Globalization meant cheap illegal labour which was meant to improve the competitiveness of the Greek economy.Alas,the result was massive tax fraud of behalf of the immigrants and the employers alike rendering the entire social pensions system unsustainable.

Illegal immigration into Greece was also part of Erdogan's policy aiming at destabilizing Greece.You would be aware of what the former Turkish Prime Minister Yilmaz said in an interview with Turkey's daily News,while in office Turkish security services were involved in several forest fires in Greek islands in the Aegean aiming at destabilizing them financially.

The question of illegal immigration and all the associated job loses &crime with it has led ordinary Greeks on their toes.But the most frustrating and perplexing for ordinary people trying to discern is from where the political counter-attack will come, and led by whom? In particular, how has the entire Greek political class become so inveigled by the monster that is the European Union; by the tyranny of the Lisbon Treaty? This is exactly the situation which is forcing ordinary Greeks to right wing parties.

Ian, UK

When your British Jihadist friends return home, I hope they move into your street and not mine.

All the more the Scots should vote to bolt from the UK in 2014 -- methinks there will be less reason for Islamic extremists to ever target Scotland if she is no longer in the same country as London.

“@ Lowe. It is a shame that most Scots don't want independence and distrust Alex Salmond/ the SNP. If anything, this horrible brutal attack against a British soldier has made the Scots feel more British and more Patriotic toward Britain. But you can keep dreaming.
(Ian, UK, 26 May 2013 10:29)”

Well, they might just change their minds when they see their “British” nationality becoming more and more of a liability to their own mortality. But YOU can keep dreaming that they don’t have any common sense to realize this eventually. Yes, by all means continue dreaming ..… do you have the queen’s photo by your bedside to kiss every night before you go to sleep?

“I would never be friends with a "Jihadist". Then assuming there is British Jihadists in Syria and they do return "home", they couldn't afford to live where I live in Wharfedale; I don't even live on a street for starters. There is more chance they'll be your neighbours on your street.
(Ian, UK, 25 May 2013 08:19)”

I didn’t know that any Jihadist in UK would go round with a “I’m a Jihadist” placard so that you know for sure that someone is a Jihadist for you not to come within a ten foot pole. More likely, they might just blend into the crowd and you’ve only got your own government to blame if you were anywhere near them during one of their suicide missions! For starters, your British population will increasingly turn non-white, and so probably become more and more physically indistinguishable from “those Jihadists”. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/white-britons-will-be-minority-before-2070-says-professor-8600262.html

And so, to paraphrase your own advice to me in another post on this thread that I have replied to earlier, you can continue dreaming that the Scots won’t eventually realize that the only way out of this quagmire would be to break free from London.

Finally, if I were you, I wouldn’t be so smug as to assume that I won’t ever encounter the extremists just because you dwell in so-called upmarket Wharfedale. If they can penetrate the security of government buildings and military sites, what’s a mere fancy residence to them?

“What are you even basing that on? You've just made it up. I understand that you want the Scots to 'want' independence as some sort of vengeance for the Balkanisation of Yugoslavia, but it is the Scots choice alone.

I'm a British Republican, why would I have a photo of the Queen?
(Ian, UK, 26 May 2013 17:08)”

You should stop being the pathetic pot calling the kettle black! Anyone who read my post of 26 May 2013 14:42 objectively would see that I was referring to possibilities rather than claiming facts when I used the words “MIGHT change their minds” rather than “WILL change their minds”.

YOU on the other hand CLAIMED that “ …. most Scots don't want independence and distrust Alex Salmond/ the SNP.” So what are YOU even basing your claim on with regards to Salmond/SNP????? Was there actually an objective survey conducted on the Scots with the question “Do you distrust Alex Salmond/the SNP”? Being currently against independence is NOT the same as distrusting someone. I therefore put it to you that YOU are the one whose making up stories.

Yugoslavia was just one disgraceful episode in British history in my opinion. If you look further back, as I see it, there’s the likes of India and Pakistan, the Opium Wars, Diego Gracia where I see less than honourable British (aka England) actions.

Reply to (Ian, UK, 26 May 2013 17:22)

My point was that as long as Scotland remains in the same country as England, she remains fair game to any Islamic extremists who want to do ill to UK. Once she exits UK this problem should largely solve itself.

And how is independence for Scotland the same as “severing economic ties with its largest trade partner”? Stop your ridiculous exaggerations! In any case, it isn’t as if the Scots can’t look to establish trade with other countries inside and outside the EU. What makes you think England is all that indispensable to the Scots?

Any damage from Scottish independence, in my view, would be felt mainly by London – just to name some -- possible loss of veto power in UNSC, not to mention having to apply again as a new member (read: Russian and Chinese vetoes) – likely reduced political and economic clout for London globally – possible weakened military, I can just visualize the Argentines baying at the Malvinas.

As for Wharfedale, your implied to Michael Thomas that he, poor thing, had to live next to some street, and possibly with Jihadists as neighbors unlike privileged creatures like yourself from posh neighborhoods that Jihadists can’t afford. I would think that Jihadists are not likely to target neighborhoods in which they have families and so, ironically, Michael Thomas should be safe. Yes, he’s probably much safer where he is next to the Jihadist families than you in your apparent high class neighbourhood.

@ Michael Thomas

By Syrian Army you mean the Islamist Iranian Army (Revolutionary Guards, Quds Force and Basij ect) and the Russian armed foreign Jihadist terrorists (Jaysh al-Sha'bi, Shabiha, Hezbollah, Mahdi Army, Badr Corps, Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq, Kata'ib Hezbollah ect) fighting for Assad.

The Syrian Civil War has proved to be very profitable for Russia!

Michael Thomas

I would never be friends with a "Jihadist". Then assuming there is British Jihadists in Syria and they do return "home", they couldn't afford to live where I live in Wharfedale; I don't even live on a street for starters. There is more chance they'll be your neighbours on your street.

@ Lowe. It is a shame that most Scots don't want independence and distrust Alex Salmond/ the SNP. If anything, this horrible brutal attack against a British soldier has made the Scots feel more British and more Patriotic toward Britain. But you can keep dreaming.

I have grown to love conspiracy nuts who believe the EU is set out to stifle 'indigenous' populations. no EU charter has ever insinuated such a thing. there's not a single paragraph on ANY EU document that supports such a claim either. but in Leonidas's mind, we're still fighting the Sultan. by the wya, why do those Greek emplyers keep employing illegal immigrants? that's nothe fault of the EU, its the fault of those Greeks

Well, they might just change their minds when they see their “British” nationality becoming more and more of a liability to their own mortality. But YOU can keep dreaming that they don’t have any common sense to realize this eventually. Yes, by all means continue dreaming ..… do you have the queen’s photo by your bedside to kiss every night before you go to sleep?
(lowe, 26 May 2013 14:42)

What are you even basing that on? You've just made it up. I understand that you want the Scots to 'want' independence as some sort of vengeance for the Balkanisation of Yugoslavia, but it is the Scots choice alone.

I'm a British Republican, why would I have a photo of the Queen?

(lowe, 26 May 2013 14:44)

Well as far as I'm aware, none of my friends are in Syria.

If I was aware that one of my Muslim friends were Jihadists, then I would no longer consider them as a friend. But I doubt any of them be considering that 99.99% of Muslims don't care and just want to get on with their everyday lives. This fearmongering in the media doesn't bother me either as it is only a distraction to divert away from economic problems.

The amount of "non-whites" in the UK doesn't bother me as I don't judge people by the colour of their skin.

If Scotland were to as what you say "break free from London", it would economically stupid as Scotland would be in affect severing economic ties with it's largest trade partner. This is why Alex Salmond is struggling to get support and have been on the loosing side of every single opinion Poll in Scotland since the referendum was announced.

Yes some extremists may be able to "penetrate security of government buildings and military sites", but why would they want to target Wharfedale? What would be in it for them? What would they be achieving? What would the purpose be?

@ Michael Thomas

By Syrian Army you mean the Islamist Iranian Army (Revolutionary Guards, Quds Force and Basij ect) and the Russian armed foreign Jihadist terrorists (Jaysh al-Sha'bi, Shabiha, Hezbollah, Mahdi Army, Badr Corps, Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq, Kata'ib Hezbollah ect) fighting for Assad.

The Syrian Civil War has proved to be very profitable for Russia!

Michael Thomas

I would never be friends with a "Jihadist". Then assuming there is British Jihadists in Syria and they do return "home", they couldn't afford to live where I live in Wharfedale; I don't even live on a street for starters. There is more chance they'll be your neighbours on your street.

I couldn't agree with you more Thanasis.A visit to the centre of Athens reminds you more of Middle East than Western Europe.It all started back in the 1980s on the instructions of the EU and the total compliance of the subservient Greek liberal elites.Globalization meant cheap illegal labour which was meant to improve the competitiveness of the Greek economy.Alas,the result was massive tax fraud of behalf of the immigrants and the employers alike rendering the entire social pensions system unsustainable.

Illegal immigration into Greece was also part of Erdogan's policy aiming at destabilizing Greece.You would be aware of what the former Turkish Prime Minister Yilmaz said in an interview with Turkey's daily News,while in office Turkish security services were involved in several forest fires in Greek islands in the Aegean aiming at destabilizing them financially.

The question of illegal immigration and all the associated job loses &crime with it has led ordinary Greeks on their toes.But the most frustrating and perplexing for ordinary people trying to discern is from where the political counter-attack will come, and led by whom? In particular, how has the entire Greek political class become so inveigled by the monster that is the European Union; by the tyranny of the Lisbon Treaty? This is exactly the situation which is forcing ordinary Greeks to right wing parties.

@ Lowe. It is a shame that most Scots don't want independence and distrust Alex Salmond/ the SNP. If anything, this horrible brutal attack against a British soldier has made the Scots feel more British and more Patriotic toward Britain. But you can keep dreaming.

Ian, UK

When your British Jihadist friends return home, I hope they move into your street and not mine.

The recent events in UK & Sweden ( Swedish cities are burning for six days in a row) are just a confirmation the deliberate EU ideology on multiculturalism is dead and buried. Multi-cultural-open-borders nirvana has not happened. Instead large parts of the West are becoming dysfunctional, labour has collapsed, and indigenous European populations are revolting about the experiment.
In the meantime the elites ,the ever-compliant EU media and posters like Ian will continue to bury their heads in the sand and still pretend that those events are just isolated incidents and we all actually love our new multicultural societies.
Multiculturalism in Europe won't work, we are in for a few exciting decades. Too bad the EU authors of this liberal experiment won't be around to answer for it.

Leonidas, the problem is that our country also succumbed to the multicultural pseudo-ideology during the 90s. I remember many members of our local political elite (Manos, Andrianopoulos etc) preaching the benefits of globalization that would put an end to national states, identities, borders and other "obsolete" notions. The globalized multicultural society became a sort of utopia and only narrow-minded nationalists couldn't see that. Of course those people have now vanished as well as their pseudo-ideology. Personally i wouldn't mind one bit if the western world was forced to drink the poison it has created, but i'm afraid that would have implications on our country as well.

“I would never be friends with a "Jihadist". Then assuming there is British Jihadists in Syria and they do return "home", they couldn't afford to live where I live in Wharfedale; I don't even live on a street for starters. There is more chance they'll be your neighbours on your street.
(Ian, UK, 25 May 2013 08:19)”

I didn’t know that any Jihadist in UK would go round with a “I’m a Jihadist” placard so that you know for sure that someone is a Jihadist for you not to come within a ten foot pole. More likely, they might just blend into the crowd and you’ve only got your own government to blame if you were anywhere near them during one of their suicide missions! For starters, your British population will increasingly turn non-white, and so probably become more and more physically indistinguishable from “those Jihadists”. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/white-britons-will-be-minority-before-2070-says-professor-8600262.html

And so, to paraphrase your own advice to me in another post on this thread that I have replied to earlier, you can continue dreaming that the Scots won’t eventually realize that the only way out of this quagmire would be to break free from London.

Finally, if I were you, I wouldn’t be so smug as to assume that I won’t ever encounter the extremists just because you dwell in so-called upmarket Wharfedale. If they can penetrate the security of government buildings and military sites, what’s a mere fancy residence to them?

I have grown to love conspiracy nuts who believe the EU is set out to stifle 'indigenous' populations. no EU charter has ever insinuated such a thing. there's not a single paragraph on ANY EU document that supports such a claim either. but in Leonidas's mind, we're still fighting the Sultan. by the wya, why do those Greek emplyers keep employing illegal immigrants? that's nothe fault of the EU, its the fault of those Greeks

Well, they might just change their minds when they see their “British” nationality becoming more and more of a liability to their own mortality. But YOU can keep dreaming that they don’t have any common sense to realize this eventually. Yes, by all means continue dreaming ..… do you have the queen’s photo by your bedside to kiss every night before you go to sleep?
(lowe, 26 May 2013 14:42)

What are you even basing that on? You've just made it up. I understand that you want the Scots to 'want' independence as some sort of vengeance for the Balkanisation of Yugoslavia, but it is the Scots choice alone.

I'm a British Republican, why would I have a photo of the Queen?

(lowe, 26 May 2013 14:44)

Well as far as I'm aware, none of my friends are in Syria.

If I was aware that one of my Muslim friends were Jihadists, then I would no longer consider them as a friend. But I doubt any of them be considering that 99.99% of Muslims don't care and just want to get on with their everyday lives. This fearmongering in the media doesn't bother me either as it is only a distraction to divert away from economic problems.

The amount of "non-whites" in the UK doesn't bother me as I don't judge people by the colour of their skin.

If Scotland were to as what you say "break free from London", it would economically stupid as Scotland would be in affect severing economic ties with it's largest trade partner. This is why Alex Salmond is struggling to get support and have been on the loosing side of every single opinion Poll in Scotland since the referendum was announced.

Yes some extremists may be able to "penetrate security of government buildings and military sites", but why would they want to target Wharfedale? What would be in it for them? What would they be achieving? What would the purpose be?

If the Syrian army destroys the Anglo-American financed "Syrian Rebels" then hundreds of British-born Jihadists will return to Britain rather than face punishment at the hands of the Syrian people. These Jihadists have been trained by the British army and are battle-hardened. I predict things are going to get very unpleasant for Britain very soon.

All the more the Scots should vote to bolt from the UK in 2014 -- methinks there will be less reason for Islamic extremists to ever target Scotland if she is no longer in the same country as London.

“@ Lowe. It is a shame that most Scots don't want independence and distrust Alex Salmond/ the SNP. If anything, this horrible brutal attack against a British soldier has made the Scots feel more British and more Patriotic toward Britain. But you can keep dreaming.
(Ian, UK, 26 May 2013 10:29)”

Well, they might just change their minds when they see their “British” nationality becoming more and more of a liability to their own mortality. But YOU can keep dreaming that they don’t have any common sense to realize this eventually. Yes, by all means continue dreaming ..… do you have the queen’s photo by your bedside to kiss every night before you go to sleep?

“What are you even basing that on? You've just made it up. I understand that you want the Scots to 'want' independence as some sort of vengeance for the Balkanisation of Yugoslavia, but it is the Scots choice alone.

I'm a British Republican, why would I have a photo of the Queen?
(Ian, UK, 26 May 2013 17:08)”

You should stop being the pathetic pot calling the kettle black! Anyone who read my post of 26 May 2013 14:42 objectively would see that I was referring to possibilities rather than claiming facts when I used the words “MIGHT change their minds” rather than “WILL change their minds”.

YOU on the other hand CLAIMED that “ …. most Scots don't want independence and distrust Alex Salmond/ the SNP.” So what are YOU even basing your claim on with regards to Salmond/SNP????? Was there actually an objective survey conducted on the Scots with the question “Do you distrust Alex Salmond/the SNP”? Being currently against independence is NOT the same as distrusting someone. I therefore put it to you that YOU are the one whose making up stories.

Yugoslavia was just one disgraceful episode in British history in my opinion. If you look further back, as I see it, there’s the likes of India and Pakistan, the Opium Wars, Diego Gracia where I see less than honourable British (aka England) actions.

Reply to (Ian, UK, 26 May 2013 17:22)

My point was that as long as Scotland remains in the same country as England, she remains fair game to any Islamic extremists who want to do ill to UK. Once she exits UK this problem should largely solve itself.

And how is independence for Scotland the same as “severing economic ties with its largest trade partner”? Stop your ridiculous exaggerations! In any case, it isn’t as if the Scots can’t look to establish trade with other countries inside and outside the EU. What makes you think England is all that indispensable to the Scots?

Any damage from Scottish independence, in my view, would be felt mainly by London – just to name some -- possible loss of veto power in UNSC, not to mention having to apply again as a new member (read: Russian and Chinese vetoes) – likely reduced political and economic clout for London globally – possible weakened military, I can just visualize the Argentines baying at the Malvinas.

As for Wharfedale, your implied to Michael Thomas that he, poor thing, had to live next to some street, and possibly with Jihadists as neighbors unlike privileged creatures like yourself from posh neighborhoods that Jihadists can’t afford. I would think that Jihadists are not likely to target neighborhoods in which they have families and so, ironically, Michael Thomas should be safe. Yes, he’s probably much safer where he is next to the Jihadist families than you in your apparent high class neighbourhood.