U.S. won’t allow change of borders in Balkans, analyst says

I don't even know how to comment on this story other than the US is no friend of Serbia.

“Washington is absolutely against any change of borders in the Balkans, and it does not even want to discuss the issue,” Tanjug was told in the U.S. capital.

Strange. So far, I always thought the US is supporting the change of borders of recognized states in the Balkans, by recognizing Kosovo as a state?

Sure it's over, sure thing. Go ahead believing what you like. Let's see, is the issue of Palestine over yet? Wow, that's been going on for years. Issues persist and some perpetually. That's the only reality one needs to recognize. The borders will change and that's that. History is on Serbia's side. How many times have borders changed in the Balkans? Too many to count. Nothing is over until Serbia together with the Kosovo Albanians come together and reach a MUTUALLY AGREED UPON SOLUTION.

Serbia needs to accept that reality? =)

well, we will see who will have to accept what...


but doesn´t it sound quite helpless, if they always feel the need to emphasize something, as if they do not feel very secure of it?

the US of A will lose their grip, and that is of course quite good. only for our k-albanian extremists it will be a catastrophy, but all in due time.

US is deluding themselves of being a world power.They are one the run by a bunch of cavemen in Afganistan and there is neither the stomach or the money to get involved in the Balkans.

“We will stand by our South Vietnamese allies and fight the red peril that wants to stifle freedom and democracy. We will not turn our backs on our allies in this region and will stand shoulder to shoulder to the bitter end.”
“We will not leave our close friends to the mercy of the Northern communists”
This is part of a speech made by the then US Ambassador to South Vietnam just about 4 months before the Communists took over – 1974.
Now some may recall the speeches made about Iraq and Afghanistan and not cutting and running…..
The US has been kicked out of most of Asia and it has said that they would never leave the region so they relocated to Australia all 2500 marines to maintain the trade routes. The last time the US was in Australia was in 1942 during WW2 because there was no other place.
The US is creaking at the seams with the horrendous debt it holds an economy that is stagnant and unemployment levels not even seen during the 1920s/30s.
Good luck in holding it back because the US is full of piss and wind. Why do you see Putin smiling from ear to ear??? Why do you see the Chinese not paying a second to all the hot air coming out of the Pentagon? Because its all for show and the power both military and financial is either in other hands or moving over now.
“For the U.S., this story ended once we recognized Kosovo...."
Then why do they have to remind everyone? Surely the Windbags are that powerful? They try and spend more time convincing themselves.

How hard is that English to understand?
(EA, 23 September 2012 13:45)

Clearly you are the one having a hard time understanding and communicating in English lol.

Here is a simple solution, Serbia can just say...no. What is the USA going to bomb Serbia for not verifying the occupation? No of course not. Are they prepared to slaughter the Serbs of Mitrovica to advance their Islamist state? Unlikely. And we all know the Serbs of free Kosovo i Metohija will never agree to being occupied by an impoverished basket case.

So now what?

but Belgrade wants to live in its own dream world ... far away from any reality .... these guys live behind the moon, and will never get it...

The u s a always telling all other countrys what they "MUST DO"!WEll maybe some country{s}should tell them they "MUST" give the lands they took {STOLE and plundered} from Mexico. California,Arizona, Nevada,Texas,New Mexico,and Colorado.Mexico "WILL" get "Their" "RIGHTFUL"land back,one way or another!

U.S. believed that any change of borders in the Balkans would have an extremely negative influence on the stability in the region.

HMMMM

Now why didn't the west think of this problem before they decided to break up Yugoslavia

I'm sorry but the USA opened the Pandora's box on border changes by changing the border. By doing so, no border in the world is unchangeable.

“For the U.S., this story ended once we recognized Kosovo and its current borders. We have voiced our view on a number of occasions in the talks with Belgrade officials,” he added.

How hard is that English to understand?

Just makes me wonder if the whole world is America's personal property.
How can they allow anything when they don't own the Balkans?
Who are they to allow or not allow anything? How about we say that we won't allow Texas to remain within the US borders?
Maybe California should be let go and we won't allow any negotiation about that?
THEY WON'T ALLOW!!!! That is the most arrogant statement yet. Serbia should just say that they won't allow her visa in.

...would not agree with... seems more appropriate than 'will not allow'. Serbia is no US vassal state (yet).

"However, the Albanian community actively participates in the U.S. elections, so she probably has some interest,” the analyst noted. "

What a moronic statement considering the number of Albanians living in the US. As if they're going to tip the scale.

U.S. won’t allow change of borders in Balkans, analyst says
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Well, not entirely true, the US will only change borders to the detriment of Serbians. So far, this policy has lead to the genocide of Serbs in Croatia for the second time in recent history. First with the NAZIs and the second with the US of A.

It has created a non-functioning and divided country call BiH, where Muslim extremists thrive and even attack Americans.

It is assisting the genocide by K*-Albanians against Serbians and other non-Albanians, which has been ongoing for over 100 years now. It is attempting to change the border of Serbia and create a non-entity thriving on terrorism, organ trafficking, people and drug smuggling.

In reality, we can see what US stubbornness has done to this world. We can see it in Palestine, ex-Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc... As such the US, quite simply, continues to export violence...

Hillary Clinton's interests are probably fat juicy bribes. The whole Clinton family is corrupt as hell ever since Bill was governor of Arkansas.

Out of touch with actuality the US politicos repeat their version of reality.

Let the US be left behind with it's reality along with it's economy, social conditions and overstretched military.

And for what, a few politicians that need to fulfill their obligations they were paid oops lobbied for. Talk about "patriots" they lead their country down the garden path for their own personal wealth.

The complacent and myopic have certainly lost any moral right to lead the world, we now proceed without them.

U.S. won’t allow change of borders in Balkans, analyst says. Those that try the dastardly evil ways will be throttled just ask Serbia or did they forget so soon.

Yeah right!!

The USA won't this that and the other...BS!!

The US is in it's own shitty mess, the Islamic world wants them gone and out of their territory, and many of us in Europe couldn't give a damn what the bloody US thinks period.

Those fools in Washington have no idea what lies ahead for them let alone anywhere else. Yes, the future is going to be very different but not the way the US dictates. Every empire crumbles and so will theirs faster than any other in the entire history of the human race.

No man will be a slave to any other man, not in this day and age and the US should recognise this fact, particularly amongst it's own citizens who have had enough of war and Washington BS so they had better watch out because the storm is coming from where they least expect it.

All you big mouths from the states who support your governments sick policies fasten your seat belts because you are in for a very unpleasant and bumby ride. See yah, wouldn't wanna be yah!!

This is a smart move by the Serbian government in case of a change in the us administration. They are telling the new administration, "here is a way to clean up the mess caused by your previous governments, fast and quick". hillary thinks she can intimidate or bribe the new Serbian government like she did with tadic. I see fear of a radical change in us foreign policy in her and that is why she is coming to a place that she despises. I hope Serbian officials return her disrespect in kind.

“We will stand by our South Vietnamese allies and fight the red peril that wants to stifle freedom and democracy. We will not turn our backs on our allies in this region and will stand shoulder to shoulder to the bitter end.”
“We will not leave our close friends to the mercy of the Northern communists”
This is part of a speech made by the then US Ambassador to South Vietnam just about 4 months before the Communists took over – 1974.
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Very useful reading for K*Albs.

For the U.S., this story ended once we recognized Kosovo and its current borders. We have voiced our view on a number of occasions in the talks with Belgrade officials,” he added.

Political analyst Obrad Kesić told B92 that the U.S. would not allow change of borders in the Balkans and that Serbia needed to accept the reality.

Kesić added that it was very important for Serbia to agree with the process.

The faster Serbia agrees, the better off it will be for Serbia! With all these deceptive policies Serbia is deploying, it is making it much harder on her journey of becoming a E.U. member! Serbia' economy will continue to deteriorate if she contunuies with these anti-democratic, policies. Kosova on the other hand, contunuies to get stronger by the day! Her support by the most powerful democratic nations on earth gets stronger & stronger! Kosova's economy while still small & under developed, show's, sign's of improvement by the day! The security force of Kosova, the KSF also by the day gets stronger & more sophisticated with training & weaponry, NATO member, Turkey just a couple of days ago announced a huge military equipment package for the KSF, so that by 2013 when the KSF is expected to be granted the status of a full standing army will have the most modern weapons available!

Ok so no "border" changes. I guess "Kosova" is going to have to resolve itself to the reality of an unavoidable autonomous north that maintains direct and unobstructed links to Belgrade. Let's also add the expected incentives the West will additionally provide such as special economic development and investment to the north, continued funding for Serb-dominant municipalities south of the Ibar, and continued support for Serbian Orthodox monasteries like Decani, Pec, Gracanica, and Ljeviska directly from the EU and the UN all for the sake of maintaining some semblance of multiethnicity and multiculturalism in this "state" designed by committee that no one on the ground wanted or envisioned.

Yes yes, a territorially united Kosovo will continue to be a major headache for all those Albanians trying to convince the world it's theirs and theirs alone to rule. By all means Washington, keep this damn thing together by any and all means for the sake of "stability" and "peace". The perks given to Serbs as concessions in return for propping up the facade of "independence" can only get better and better over time. Hey, if we drop calls for partition, can we get some new municipalities to run in Klina and Zac too? Heaven help the Albanians if Serbia ever considers recognizing - we'll probably be given permission and money to continue building that wonderfully large cathedral in downtown Pristina and finally put up the Vidovdan Temple in Kosovo Polje :)

"The faster Serbia agrees, the better off it will be for Serbia! With all these deceptive policies Serbia is deploying, it is making it much harder on her journey of becoming a E.U. member! Serbia' economy will continue to deteriorate if she contunuies with these anti-democratic, policies. Kosova on the other hand, contunuies to get stronger by the day! Her support by the most powerful democratic nations on earth gets stronger & stronger! Kosova's economy while still small & under developed, show's, sign's of improvement by the day! The security force of Kosova, the KSF also by the day gets stronger & more sophisticated with training & weaponry, NATO member"
(Rocky, 23 September 2012 14:58)

Name me one car, better yet, car or truck, built in Kosovo ?

Kosovo doesn't have much of a legal economy to speak of; Serbia does, now which taxi do you want to drive you out of here, the Fiat Punto or 500L ?

However, the Albanian community actively participates in the U.S. elections, so she probably has some interest,” the analyst noted.

Could somebody explain that?

what an expert! truth is actually not like that. the US was opposed to the disbandement of Yugoslavia in the early 90's, was opposed to anything more than autonomy for Kosova in the mid 90's. situation varies all the time. most likely he is right, partition the best possible solution, but to suggest that the US is obdurate in its position is not to understand politics.

USA decide everything.
As usual, Serbia have wrong friends.
Russia no use, Belarus too.
Usual fail politic of Serbia and Greece.

“For the U.S., this story ended once we recognized Kosovo and its current borders. We have voiced our view on a number of occasions in the talks with Belgrade officials,” he added.

How hard is that English to understand?
(EA, 23 September 2012 13:45)

It's very easy to understand that for the USA this story ended. But for the other countries it didn't.

USA decide everything.
As usual, Serbia have wrong friends.
Russia no use, Belarus too.
Usual fail politic of Serbia and Greece.
(Adem, 23 September 2012 19:57)

The only fail is your use of the English language.

'Serbia can just say...no. What is the USA going to bomb Serbia for not verifying the occupation?..."

Ari,

I was talking about "American English" not slang English...In other words you are not active reading/listening because you still keep on talking about "occupation". Do you know the meaning of the word? I can assist you if you like but will ask B92 to charge you for that and donate the money on my behalf.....))))

Serbia can say no to formally recognise Kosovo independence but the Serbian citizens might be require them to que for a visa to travel outside Serbia in the future....just a simple example....)))))

Glenn

Let me tell you what you the Americans are going to win eventually, sweet FA mate.

You people are so arrogant and so far up your own a***s that you don't realise just how many nations despise you. You people will end up with no friends with lying corrupt leaders like the ones you have had in power for the past few decades and of course your evil foriegn policies.

Your current secretary of state is a known liar, your president is trying to destroy the American constitution and take your own freedoms away from you, and you can't see it. You are fed on lies and propaganda by your own state controled media, the land of the free and the brave my eye!! The land of the oppressed and the land of the slave is what your current government is trying to make of you, wake up!!

Do you have any idea at all just how many innocent people your country has murdered this last decade plus?? do you actually know that it is your bloody country that is responsible for the chaos in several countries.

Peggy, 23 September 2012 22:50)
Now you sound like Ron wanting the world to recognize an independent Texas eventhough the people of Texas do not want to be independent.

While the USA does not want any border changes, I think they will, in fact, allow it to happen. Currently, we (the USA) are just positioning things. If we said, "sure, go ahead and divide Kosovo," then Serbia would say that they will not recognize Kosovo. By the USA saying partitioning of Kosovo is impossible, Serbia can keep pushing for it, and when the partition happens, they can recognize Kosovo and still feel like they "won" something.

Maybe California should be let go and we won't allow any negotiation about that?
(Peggy, 23 September 2012 22:50)

Of course California should be let go... The problem though is that you first need to convince the Californians to want to go. Good luck with that - let us know when you achive it; hopefully we're still around in this world :)

"The U.S. said on Saturday that it was against any change of borders in the Balkans"..........?????????????????
How does the US have the audacity to announce such a thing? How did the Kosovo Albanians manage to get the US to recognise their UDI without the US being in favour of a change of borders in the Balkans? I am at a loss for words to try and describe just how much of a double standard this statement represents!!! I wait, with bated breath, for the next preposterous comment to emerge from the US administration!

Balkan Anthropologist, 23 September 2012 18:14)
so you are saying that Kosovo may have to continue course with the Ahtisaari plan and their constitution which has most of that in it?
The foolish thing is Serbs just put up a wall and never read the A plan nor looked at the guarantees of the Kosovo constitution which was written by international legal experts with the intent of granting the most advanced minority rights in the world.

Of course California should be let go... The problem though is that you first need to convince the Californians to want to go. Good luck with that - let us know when you achive it; hopefully we're still around in this world :)
(icj1, 24 September 2012 04:25)
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Same reply as the one I gave to think about it.

No man will be a slave to any other man, not in this day and age and the US should recognise this fact, particularly amongst it's own citizens who have had enough of war and Washington BS so they had better watch out because the storm is coming from where they least expect it.

All you big mouths from the states who support your governments sick policies fasten your seat belts because you are in for a very unpleasant and bumby ride. See yah, wouldn't wanna be yah!!
(Deliverence, 23 September 2012 17:10)

Exactly ,no man will be a slave to another man, and no country will be slave to another country, that’s what us Kosovar's are and have been saying also! No citizen of Kosova will be a slave of Serbia, period!!!

USA knows for what is speaking about. USA is a fair arbiter of Balkan. We Balkan people see only our basin they see all the basins. Especially in Balkan they have a success story, different from Afghanistan for example. The situation after 1999 War is better in Kosova, Serbia and entire Balkan. As Albanian I’m in favor of changing the border of entire Balkan. Albanian, Hungarian, Slavomacedonian are the loosers of current situation of borders, Serbs and Greeks are the winners. We need all to see if in London Conference of 1913 the borders were set in fair way or some nation privileged by powerful Russia at that time grab other nations land. Let’s study carefully the files of London 1913 first.

Peggy, 23 September 2012 22:50)
Now you sound like Ron wanting the world to recognize an independent Texas eventhough the people of Texas do not want to be independent.
(think about it, 24 September 2012 11:21)
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You think you can distort the meaning of what I say?
You really can't tell when someone is just pointing out the absurdity in what was said.

(Peggy, 23 September 2012 22:50)
You do realize that the article is about what a SERBIAN political analyst is saying and not an official statement by the US gov?
By the way go ahead and declare California independent and campaign for its recognition and see your "reaction" from the US.

If a spoekesperson in US is saying something the whole Serbian elite is confused and is changes the "great Serbian plans"...Serbia has no plan, no strategy, nothing

Rocky from KosovO

first thing, Kosovo is not yours, it never has been and eventually you will be ejected and for keeps next time.

Also you have no claim on any other part of Serbia, I will include Macedonia and Monte Negro in that statement aswell. You and your fellow albanians are a bunch of dreamers who believe that you can claim any part of the Balkans as your own. Carry on pushing your luck and you'll also end up losing albania itself. Listen good cocky rocky, your US friends are not interested in you people, they have an hidden agenda and that will come unstuck soon enough. When it does they'll drop you lot like a sack of rubbish and then what you gonna do rocky me boy??? Sweet nothing period.

You are the one promoting the idea that "California should be let go" so you need to convince people there to want to go :)

Assuming, of course, that it was not another "Peggy" who said ""California should be let go"
(icj1, 25 September 2012 05:47)
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Seriously, are you that thick?
I was posing questions about how America would feel if someone would not allow parts of their country to remain with them. Did I actually say that California should go?
Do you have problems with comprehension?
How do you discuss things with people who are so thick but think they are clever or understand what is said but distort in order to make the other person look silly, thereby making themselves look stupid?
Icj, you are one of the thickest people on this site. Please don't make thing worse for yourself.

There is that "pandora's box" again. I can see in 1000 years someone somewhere is going to change a border or declare independence and a Serb is going to say it is because in 2008 the pandora's box in Kosovo was opened. too funny.

(Someone Who Reads English, 24 September 2012 15:27)
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Where does it say that a Serb will not allow change of borders? The Serb is merely telling us what the US has so obviously stated previously.
Maybe it's you who should brush up on English.

Delivering a verdict made by someone else is still the same verdict.

To the silly one who keeps harping on me suggesting that I should do something about California becoming independent, read a little more carefully what I said.

so you are saying that Kosovo may have to continue course with the Ahtisaari plan and their constitution which has most of that in it?
(a New Day, 24 September 2012 09:20)

Pretty much. And yes I agree that most Serbs probably never read the AP. They probably asked "does this lead to independence? It does? Well then screw the whole thing", which is silly because it gives Serbs in Kosovo more of an opportunity to handle their own affairs than Belgrade would give them if Kosovo were part of Serbia. But Albanians equally hate AP because it's a a constant reminder that "Kosova" is really "Kosovo" to the rest of the world and that the price for independence is basically no hope for sovereign stability because the Serbs can run virtually parallel lives. Now I'm no fan of an independent Kosovo and I giggle every time I read of some slip up. But at the same time, I also realize the West is going to push for a solution over Kosovo via the AP, so if our leaders in Belgrade were smart (which they're not), they could totally clean house and get everything they want in Kosovo by pushing for an enhanced AP which "recognizes" Kosovo in return for upgrading Serb municipalities to an RS-level. Instead we're going to push for partition, which undercuts our own interests and people. Pristina should be overjoyed that's still seriously considered in Belgrade. The minute my government wants to seriously discuss Kosovo via the AP model is the minute Pristina needs to really start worrying.

To the silly one who keeps harping on me suggesting that I should do something about California becoming independent, read a little more carefully what I said.
(Peggy, 24 September 2012 22:53)

You are the one promoting the idea that "California should be let go" so you need to convince people there to want to go :)

Assuming, of course, that it was not another "Peggy" who said ""California should be let go"

Peggy, the quote is" Political analyst Obrad Kesić told B92 that the U.S. would not allow change of borders in the Balkans and that Serbia needed to accept the reality."
Where does it anywhere quote a US Official as saying they will "not allow" changes. Point your ignorance where it belongs.

New Balkans London Conference needs to be held in 2013, the 100yr anniversary of the travesty of the 1913 Balkans London Conference.

#1 Bosnia needs to split from Croatian and Serbian part and join with Sandzak (majority Bosnian Muslims) of Serbia and Montenegro.

#2 Croatia gets Croat part of Bosnia

#3 Serbia gets Serb part of Bosnia

#4 Serbia gets North Kosovo

#5 Serbia gets Northeast part of Macedonia (FYROM)

#6 Kosovo gets Southwest Serbia 3 municipalities (Albanian Majority).

#7 Kosovo gets Northwest part of Macedonia (FYROM) and 25% of Skopije

#8 Albania gets Ulcin (Majority Albanian) from Montenegro

#9 Albania gets Southwest part of Macedonia (FYROM) (Majority Albanian)

#10 Bulgaria gets 40% of Eastern Macedonia (FYROM)

#11 Greece gets 20% of Southern Macedonia (FYROM) in exchange for Chameria to Albania.

#12 (FYROM) ceases to exist Problem solved for everyone in the Balkans.

Seriously, are you that thick?
I was posing questions about how America would feel if someone would not allow parts of their country to remain with them. Did I actually say that California should go?
Do you have problems with comprehension?
How do you discuss things with people who are so thick but think they are clever or understand what is said but distort in order to make the other person look silly, thereby making themselves look stupid?
Icj, you are one of the thickest people on this site. Please don't make thing worse for yourself.
(Peggy, 25 September 2012 10:48)

I was just quoting you, dear... I did not know you were that thick... But I trust you on that since you can certainly judge your thickness better than me :)

“For the U.S., this story ended once we recognized Kosovo and its current borders. We have voiced our view on a number of occasions in the talks with Belgrade officials,” he added.

How hard is that English to understand?

but Belgrade wants to live in its own dream world ... far away from any reality .... these guys live behind the moon, and will never get it...

U.S. won’t allow change of borders in Balkans, analyst says. Those that try the dastardly evil ways will be throttled just ask Serbia or did they forget so soon.

what an expert! truth is actually not like that. the US was opposed to the disbandement of Yugoslavia in the early 90's, was opposed to anything more than autonomy for Kosova in the mid 90's. situation varies all the time. most likely he is right, partition the best possible solution, but to suggest that the US is obdurate in its position is not to understand politics.

How hard is that English to understand?
(EA, 23 September 2012 13:45)

Clearly you are the one having a hard time understanding and communicating in English lol.

Here is a simple solution, Serbia can just say...no. What is the USA going to bomb Serbia for not verifying the occupation? No of course not. Are they prepared to slaughter the Serbs of Mitrovica to advance their Islamist state? Unlikely. And we all know the Serbs of free Kosovo i Metohija will never agree to being occupied by an impoverished basket case.

So now what?

US is deluding themselves of being a world power.They are one the run by a bunch of cavemen in Afganistan and there is neither the stomach or the money to get involved in the Balkans.

The u s a always telling all other countrys what they "MUST DO"!WEll maybe some country{s}should tell them they "MUST" give the lands they took {STOLE and plundered} from Mexico. California,Arizona, Nevada,Texas,New Mexico,and Colorado.Mexico "WILL" get "Their" "RIGHTFUL"land back,one way or another!

For the U.S., this story ended once we recognized Kosovo and its current borders. We have voiced our view on a number of occasions in the talks with Belgrade officials,” he added.

Political analyst Obrad Kesić told B92 that the U.S. would not allow change of borders in the Balkans and that Serbia needed to accept the reality.

Kesić added that it was very important for Serbia to agree with the process.

The faster Serbia agrees, the better off it will be for Serbia! With all these deceptive policies Serbia is deploying, it is making it much harder on her journey of becoming a E.U. member! Serbia' economy will continue to deteriorate if she contunuies with these anti-democratic, policies. Kosova on the other hand, contunuies to get stronger by the day! Her support by the most powerful democratic nations on earth gets stronger & stronger! Kosova's economy while still small & under developed, show's, sign's of improvement by the day! The security force of Kosova, the KSF also by the day gets stronger & more sophisticated with training & weaponry, NATO member, Turkey just a couple of days ago announced a huge military equipment package for the KSF, so that by 2013 when the KSF is expected to be granted the status of a full standing army will have the most modern weapons available!

“We will stand by our South Vietnamese allies and fight the red peril that wants to stifle freedom and democracy. We will not turn our backs on our allies in this region and will stand shoulder to shoulder to the bitter end.”
“We will not leave our close friends to the mercy of the Northern communists”
This is part of a speech made by the then US Ambassador to South Vietnam just about 4 months before the Communists took over – 1974.
Now some may recall the speeches made about Iraq and Afghanistan and not cutting and running…..
The US has been kicked out of most of Asia and it has said that they would never leave the region so they relocated to Australia all 2500 marines to maintain the trade routes. The last time the US was in Australia was in 1942 during WW2 because there was no other place.
The US is creaking at the seams with the horrendous debt it holds an economy that is stagnant and unemployment levels not even seen during the 1920s/30s.
Good luck in holding it back because the US is full of piss and wind. Why do you see Putin smiling from ear to ear??? Why do you see the Chinese not paying a second to all the hot air coming out of the Pentagon? Because its all for show and the power both military and financial is either in other hands or moving over now.
“For the U.S., this story ended once we recognized Kosovo...."
Then why do they have to remind everyone? Surely the Windbags are that powerful? They try and spend more time convincing themselves.

Sure it's over, sure thing. Go ahead believing what you like. Let's see, is the issue of Palestine over yet? Wow, that's been going on for years. Issues persist and some perpetually. That's the only reality one needs to recognize. The borders will change and that's that. History is on Serbia's side. How many times have borders changed in the Balkans? Too many to count. Nothing is over until Serbia together with the Kosovo Albanians come together and reach a MUTUALLY AGREED UPON SOLUTION.

Serbia needs to accept that reality? =)

well, we will see who will have to accept what...


but doesn´t it sound quite helpless, if they always feel the need to emphasize something, as if they do not feel very secure of it?

the US of A will lose their grip, and that is of course quite good. only for our k-albanian extremists it will be a catastrophy, but all in due time.

I'm sorry but the USA opened the Pandora's box on border changes by changing the border. By doing so, no border in the world is unchangeable.

"However, the Albanian community actively participates in the U.S. elections, so she probably has some interest,” the analyst noted. "

What a moronic statement considering the number of Albanians living in the US. As if they're going to tip the scale.

This is a smart move by the Serbian government in case of a change in the us administration. They are telling the new administration, "here is a way to clean up the mess caused by your previous governments, fast and quick". hillary thinks she can intimidate or bribe the new Serbian government like she did with tadic. I see fear of a radical change in us foreign policy in her and that is why she is coming to a place that she despises. I hope Serbian officials return her disrespect in kind.

“Washington is absolutely against any change of borders in the Balkans, and it does not even want to discuss the issue,” Tanjug was told in the U.S. capital.

Strange. So far, I always thought the US is supporting the change of borders of recognized states in the Balkans, by recognizing Kosovo as a state?

Out of touch with actuality the US politicos repeat their version of reality.

Let the US be left behind with it's reality along with it's economy, social conditions and overstretched military.

And for what, a few politicians that need to fulfill their obligations they were paid oops lobbied for. Talk about "patriots" they lead their country down the garden path for their own personal wealth.

The complacent and myopic have certainly lost any moral right to lead the world, we now proceed without them.

U.S. believed that any change of borders in the Balkans would have an extremely negative influence on the stability in the region.

HMMMM

Now why didn't the west think of this problem before they decided to break up Yugoslavia

USA decide everything.
As usual, Serbia have wrong friends.
Russia no use, Belarus too.
Usual fail politic of Serbia and Greece.

Ok so no "border" changes. I guess "Kosova" is going to have to resolve itself to the reality of an unavoidable autonomous north that maintains direct and unobstructed links to Belgrade. Let's also add the expected incentives the West will additionally provide such as special economic development and investment to the north, continued funding for Serb-dominant municipalities south of the Ibar, and continued support for Serbian Orthodox monasteries like Decani, Pec, Gracanica, and Ljeviska directly from the EU and the UN all for the sake of maintaining some semblance of multiethnicity and multiculturalism in this "state" designed by committee that no one on the ground wanted or envisioned.

Yes yes, a territorially united Kosovo will continue to be a major headache for all those Albanians trying to convince the world it's theirs and theirs alone to rule. By all means Washington, keep this damn thing together by any and all means for the sake of "stability" and "peace". The perks given to Serbs as concessions in return for propping up the facade of "independence" can only get better and better over time. Hey, if we drop calls for partition, can we get some new municipalities to run in Klina and Zac too? Heaven help the Albanians if Serbia ever considers recognizing - we'll probably be given permission and money to continue building that wonderfully large cathedral in downtown Pristina and finally put up the Vidovdan Temple in Kosovo Polje :)

Yeah right!!

The USA won't this that and the other...BS!!

The US is in it's own shitty mess, the Islamic world wants them gone and out of their territory, and many of us in Europe couldn't give a damn what the bloody US thinks period.

Those fools in Washington have no idea what lies ahead for them let alone anywhere else. Yes, the future is going to be very different but not the way the US dictates. Every empire crumbles and so will theirs faster than any other in the entire history of the human race.

No man will be a slave to any other man, not in this day and age and the US should recognise this fact, particularly amongst it's own citizens who have had enough of war and Washington BS so they had better watch out because the storm is coming from where they least expect it.

All you big mouths from the states who support your governments sick policies fasten your seat belts because you are in for a very unpleasant and bumby ride. See yah, wouldn't wanna be yah!!

While the USA does not want any border changes, I think they will, in fact, allow it to happen. Currently, we (the USA) are just positioning things. If we said, "sure, go ahead and divide Kosovo," then Serbia would say that they will not recognize Kosovo. By the USA saying partitioning of Kosovo is impossible, Serbia can keep pushing for it, and when the partition happens, they can recognize Kosovo and still feel like they "won" something.

...would not agree with... seems more appropriate than 'will not allow'. Serbia is no US vassal state (yet).

I don't even know how to comment on this story other than the US is no friend of Serbia.

“We will stand by our South Vietnamese allies and fight the red peril that wants to stifle freedom and democracy. We will not turn our backs on our allies in this region and will stand shoulder to shoulder to the bitter end.”
“We will not leave our close friends to the mercy of the Northern communists”
This is part of a speech made by the then US Ambassador to South Vietnam just about 4 months before the Communists took over – 1974.
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Very useful reading for K*Albs.

However, the Albanian community actively participates in the U.S. elections, so she probably has some interest,” the analyst noted.

Could somebody explain that?

'Serbia can just say...no. What is the USA going to bomb Serbia for not verifying the occupation?..."

Ari,

I was talking about "American English" not slang English...In other words you are not active reading/listening because you still keep on talking about "occupation". Do you know the meaning of the word? I can assist you if you like but will ask B92 to charge you for that and donate the money on my behalf.....))))

Serbia can say no to formally recognise Kosovo independence but the Serbian citizens might be require them to que for a visa to travel outside Serbia in the future....just a simple example....)))))

U.S. won’t allow change of borders in Balkans, analyst says
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Well, not entirely true, the US will only change borders to the detriment of Serbians. So far, this policy has lead to the genocide of Serbs in Croatia for the second time in recent history. First with the NAZIs and the second with the US of A.

It has created a non-functioning and divided country call BiH, where Muslim extremists thrive and even attack Americans.

It is assisting the genocide by K*-Albanians against Serbians and other non-Albanians, which has been ongoing for over 100 years now. It is attempting to change the border of Serbia and create a non-entity thriving on terrorism, organ trafficking, people and drug smuggling.

In reality, we can see what US stubbornness has done to this world. We can see it in Palestine, ex-Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc... As such the US, quite simply, continues to export violence...

Just makes me wonder if the whole world is America's personal property.
How can they allow anything when they don't own the Balkans?
Who are they to allow or not allow anything? How about we say that we won't allow Texas to remain within the US borders?
Maybe California should be let go and we won't allow any negotiation about that?
THEY WON'T ALLOW!!!! That is the most arrogant statement yet. Serbia should just say that they won't allow her visa in.

"The faster Serbia agrees, the better off it will be for Serbia! With all these deceptive policies Serbia is deploying, it is making it much harder on her journey of becoming a E.U. member! Serbia' economy will continue to deteriorate if she contunuies with these anti-democratic, policies. Kosova on the other hand, contunuies to get stronger by the day! Her support by the most powerful democratic nations on earth gets stronger & stronger! Kosova's economy while still small & under developed, show's, sign's of improvement by the day! The security force of Kosova, the KSF also by the day gets stronger & more sophisticated with training & weaponry, NATO member"
(Rocky, 23 September 2012 14:58)

Name me one car, better yet, car or truck, built in Kosovo ?

Kosovo doesn't have much of a legal economy to speak of; Serbia does, now which taxi do you want to drive you out of here, the Fiat Punto or 500L ?

Hillary Clinton's interests are probably fat juicy bribes. The whole Clinton family is corrupt as hell ever since Bill was governor of Arkansas.

USA knows for what is speaking about. USA is a fair arbiter of Balkan. We Balkan people see only our basin they see all the basins. Especially in Balkan they have a success story, different from Afghanistan for example. The situation after 1999 War is better in Kosova, Serbia and entire Balkan. As Albanian I’m in favor of changing the border of entire Balkan. Albanian, Hungarian, Slavomacedonian are the loosers of current situation of borders, Serbs and Greeks are the winners. We need all to see if in London Conference of 1913 the borders were set in fair way or some nation privileged by powerful Russia at that time grab other nations land. Let’s study carefully the files of London 1913 first.

Peggy, the quote is" Political analyst Obrad Kesić told B92 that the U.S. would not allow change of borders in the Balkans and that Serbia needed to accept the reality."
Where does it anywhere quote a US Official as saying they will "not allow" changes. Point your ignorance where it belongs.

No man will be a slave to any other man, not in this day and age and the US should recognise this fact, particularly amongst it's own citizens who have had enough of war and Washington BS so they had better watch out because the storm is coming from where they least expect it.

All you big mouths from the states who support your governments sick policies fasten your seat belts because you are in for a very unpleasant and bumby ride. See yah, wouldn't wanna be yah!!
(Deliverence, 23 September 2012 17:10)

Exactly ,no man will be a slave to another man, and no country will be slave to another country, that’s what us Kosovar's are and have been saying also! No citizen of Kosova will be a slave of Serbia, period!!!

"The U.S. said on Saturday that it was against any change of borders in the Balkans"..........?????????????????
How does the US have the audacity to announce such a thing? How did the Kosovo Albanians manage to get the US to recognise their UDI without the US being in favour of a change of borders in the Balkans? I am at a loss for words to try and describe just how much of a double standard this statement represents!!! I wait, with bated breath, for the next preposterous comment to emerge from the US administration!

Peggy, 23 September 2012 22:50)
Now you sound like Ron wanting the world to recognize an independent Texas eventhough the people of Texas do not want to be independent.

There is that "pandora's box" again. I can see in 1000 years someone somewhere is going to change a border or declare independence and a Serb is going to say it is because in 2008 the pandora's box in Kosovo was opened. too funny.

“For the U.S., this story ended once we recognized Kosovo and its current borders. We have voiced our view on a number of occasions in the talks with Belgrade officials,” he added.

How hard is that English to understand?
(EA, 23 September 2012 13:45)

It's very easy to understand that for the USA this story ended. But for the other countries it didn't.

Maybe California should be let go and we won't allow any negotiation about that?
(Peggy, 23 September 2012 22:50)

Of course California should be let go... The problem though is that you first need to convince the Californians to want to go. Good luck with that - let us know when you achive it; hopefully we're still around in this world :)

USA decide everything.
As usual, Serbia have wrong friends.
Russia no use, Belarus too.
Usual fail politic of Serbia and Greece.
(Adem, 23 September 2012 19:57)

The only fail is your use of the English language.

(Peggy, 23 September 2012 22:50)
You do realize that the article is about what a SERBIAN political analyst is saying and not an official statement by the US gov?
By the way go ahead and declare California independent and campaign for its recognition and see your "reaction" from the US.

Glenn

Let me tell you what you the Americans are going to win eventually, sweet FA mate.

You people are so arrogant and so far up your own a***s that you don't realise just how many nations despise you. You people will end up with no friends with lying corrupt leaders like the ones you have had in power for the past few decades and of course your evil foriegn policies.

Your current secretary of state is a known liar, your president is trying to destroy the American constitution and take your own freedoms away from you, and you can't see it. You are fed on lies and propaganda by your own state controled media, the land of the free and the brave my eye!! The land of the oppressed and the land of the slave is what your current government is trying to make of you, wake up!!

Do you have any idea at all just how many innocent people your country has murdered this last decade plus?? do you actually know that it is your bloody country that is responsible for the chaos in several countries.

Balkan Anthropologist, 23 September 2012 18:14)
so you are saying that Kosovo may have to continue course with the Ahtisaari plan and their constitution which has most of that in it?
The foolish thing is Serbs just put up a wall and never read the A plan nor looked at the guarantees of the Kosovo constitution which was written by international legal experts with the intent of granting the most advanced minority rights in the world.

You are the one promoting the idea that "California should be let go" so you need to convince people there to want to go :)

Assuming, of course, that it was not another "Peggy" who said ""California should be let go"
(icj1, 25 September 2012 05:47)
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Seriously, are you that thick?
I was posing questions about how America would feel if someone would not allow parts of their country to remain with them. Did I actually say that California should go?
Do you have problems with comprehension?
How do you discuss things with people who are so thick but think they are clever or understand what is said but distort in order to make the other person look silly, thereby making themselves look stupid?
Icj, you are one of the thickest people on this site. Please don't make thing worse for yourself.

Peggy, 23 September 2012 22:50)
Now you sound like Ron wanting the world to recognize an independent Texas eventhough the people of Texas do not want to be independent.
(think about it, 24 September 2012 11:21)
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You think you can distort the meaning of what I say?
You really can't tell when someone is just pointing out the absurdity in what was said.

Of course California should be let go... The problem though is that you first need to convince the Californians to want to go. Good luck with that - let us know when you achive it; hopefully we're still around in this world :)
(icj1, 24 September 2012 04:25)
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Same reply as the one I gave to think about it.

If a spoekesperson in US is saying something the whole Serbian elite is confused and is changes the "great Serbian plans"...Serbia has no plan, no strategy, nothing

To the silly one who keeps harping on me suggesting that I should do something about California becoming independent, read a little more carefully what I said.
(Peggy, 24 September 2012 22:53)

You are the one promoting the idea that "California should be let go" so you need to convince people there to want to go :)

Assuming, of course, that it was not another "Peggy" who said ""California should be let go"

New Balkans London Conference needs to be held in 2013, the 100yr anniversary of the travesty of the 1913 Balkans London Conference.

#1 Bosnia needs to split from Croatian and Serbian part and join with Sandzak (majority Bosnian Muslims) of Serbia and Montenegro.

#2 Croatia gets Croat part of Bosnia

#3 Serbia gets Serb part of Bosnia

#4 Serbia gets North Kosovo

#5 Serbia gets Northeast part of Macedonia (FYROM)

#6 Kosovo gets Southwest Serbia 3 municipalities (Albanian Majority).

#7 Kosovo gets Northwest part of Macedonia (FYROM) and 25% of Skopije

#8 Albania gets Ulcin (Majority Albanian) from Montenegro

#9 Albania gets Southwest part of Macedonia (FYROM) (Majority Albanian)

#10 Bulgaria gets 40% of Eastern Macedonia (FYROM)

#11 Greece gets 20% of Southern Macedonia (FYROM) in exchange for Chameria to Albania.

#12 (FYROM) ceases to exist Problem solved for everyone in the Balkans.

so you are saying that Kosovo may have to continue course with the Ahtisaari plan and their constitution which has most of that in it?
(a New Day, 24 September 2012 09:20)

Pretty much. And yes I agree that most Serbs probably never read the AP. They probably asked "does this lead to independence? It does? Well then screw the whole thing", which is silly because it gives Serbs in Kosovo more of an opportunity to handle their own affairs than Belgrade would give them if Kosovo were part of Serbia. But Albanians equally hate AP because it's a a constant reminder that "Kosova" is really "Kosovo" to the rest of the world and that the price for independence is basically no hope for sovereign stability because the Serbs can run virtually parallel lives. Now I'm no fan of an independent Kosovo and I giggle every time I read of some slip up. But at the same time, I also realize the West is going to push for a solution over Kosovo via the AP, so if our leaders in Belgrade were smart (which they're not), they could totally clean house and get everything they want in Kosovo by pushing for an enhanced AP which "recognizes" Kosovo in return for upgrading Serb municipalities to an RS-level. Instead we're going to push for partition, which undercuts our own interests and people. Pristina should be overjoyed that's still seriously considered in Belgrade. The minute my government wants to seriously discuss Kosovo via the AP model is the minute Pristina needs to really start worrying.

Rocky from KosovO

first thing, Kosovo is not yours, it never has been and eventually you will be ejected and for keeps next time.

Also you have no claim on any other part of Serbia, I will include Macedonia and Monte Negro in that statement aswell. You and your fellow albanians are a bunch of dreamers who believe that you can claim any part of the Balkans as your own. Carry on pushing your luck and you'll also end up losing albania itself. Listen good cocky rocky, your US friends are not interested in you people, they have an hidden agenda and that will come unstuck soon enough. When it does they'll drop you lot like a sack of rubbish and then what you gonna do rocky me boy??? Sweet nothing period.

(Someone Who Reads English, 24 September 2012 15:27)
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Where does it say that a Serb will not allow change of borders? The Serb is merely telling us what the US has so obviously stated previously.
Maybe it's you who should brush up on English.

Delivering a verdict made by someone else is still the same verdict.

To the silly one who keeps harping on me suggesting that I should do something about California becoming independent, read a little more carefully what I said.

Seriously, are you that thick?
I was posing questions about how America would feel if someone would not allow parts of their country to remain with them. Did I actually say that California should go?
Do you have problems with comprehension?
How do you discuss things with people who are so thick but think they are clever or understand what is said but distort in order to make the other person look silly, thereby making themselves look stupid?
Icj, you are one of the thickest people on this site. Please don't make thing worse for yourself.
(Peggy, 25 September 2012 10:48)

I was just quoting you, dear... I did not know you were that thick... But I trust you on that since you can certainly judge your thickness better than me :)