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Saturday, 22.09.2012.

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PM: Partition of Kosovo only realistic solution

PM Ivica Dačić says the EU cannot force Serbia to recognize Kosovo as independent, while a partition of the province is "the only possible realistic solution".

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Sam Xheferi

pre 11 godina

Serbs and Albanians both nkow Partition is only solution but the problem is , its not just Kosovo that gets partitioned.

North Kosovo to Serbia
SouthWest Serbia to Kosovo
Western Macedonia and 25% of Skopije to Kosovo.
Sandzak to Bosnia
SRB republik to Serbia
Ulcin to Albania
Southeast Montenegro to Kosovo

When all this happens then Partition is OK..

icj1

pre 11 godina

with no chance ever for Kosovo to become a normal state like the other UN members.
(Comm. Parrisson, 23 September 2012 14:12)

Wooow, Serbia citizens would be aghast to learn that Serbia became a normal state only in 1945 and Switzerland citizens would be aghast to learn that they became a normal state in 2002 and Vatican citizens would be aghast to learn that they are not a normal state. And why they are not a normal state ?! Because somebody called Comm. Parrisson has so ruled LOL

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 11 godina

If you wouldn't have taken the job of being one of Milosevic's "honest" Albanians you wouldn't be stuck in Novi Sad.
(One way ticket, 23 September 2012 19:58)

As opposed to being some poor and barely literate dishwasher in a New York pizzeria and spending every minute of their break time on a Serbian news portal talking nonsensical garbage? I'll take the "loyal" Albanian with logical arguments and a mature personality over the dumb and irrelevant Gastarbeiter any day.

One way ticket

pre 11 godina

Yes, but what some people like to forget to mention: Recognized only by by about half the countries in the world, with no chance ever for Kosovo to become a normal state like the other UN members.
(Comm. Parrisson, 23 September 2012 14:12)

You like (or rather wish)to forget that Serbia in its current borders isn't recognized by half of the world.

Hope you enjoy life in your famous Serbia half of the world doesn't recognize.

One way ticket

pre 11 godina

We struggle on. Its time for this to end and fix the damn economy. We need jobs.
(Bekim_Novi Sad, 23 September 2012 13:37)

If you wouldn't have taken the job of being one of Milosevic's "honest" Albanians you wouldn't be stuck in Novi Sad.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"There will be no partition because Kosovo is been recognized with its current borders including the north ...."
(Eric, 22 September 2012 16:55)

Yes, but what some people like to forget to mention: Recognized only by by about half the countries in the world, with no chance ever for Kosovo to become a normal state like the other UN members.

Bekim_Novi Sad

pre 11 godina

Toni... We know for a fact you're not an Albanian. Secondly, if you ever met an Albanian whether they are from Kosova or Albania. They will tell you their flag is their red and black double headed eagle. Also Kosova and Albania are as united as they can ever be. Borders do not exist among us.

Nice try Toni
(Albanian, 22 September 2012 15:44)

Ultranationalist Albanian questions another Albanian because he doesnt hate Serbs enough, well here is one Albanian to tell you that here is another one who agrees with Toni. A compromise is the only solution to this and if its a partition, then so be it. Presevo Valley or anywhere else in Serbia that has been mentioned by the extremists are not on the table. The issue here is Kosovo and only Kosovo.

To the Serb ultranationalists who say not one inch, no surrender.. you are entitled to hold that opinion but a realistic agreement acceptable to all should and can be found. It is vital for this so the region can move on as the dispute hinders future economic growth and development. Ah what am I saying, most of the ultranationalist Serb & Albanian loons are living in either Toronto, New York, Berlin etc. where they have the comfort of having the opportunity and benefits of living in the West that the rest of us dont have. We struggle on. Its time for this to end and fix the damn economy. We need jobs.

think again

pre 11 godina

You're Such a Dummy Demi, 22 September 2012 20:42)
After reading your rant and empty threats only one phrase comes to mind.
Listen to the pot call the kettle black.

a New Day

pre 11 godina

Mr. Reality, 22 September 2012 21:54)
Apparently Mr Reality has not been paying attention to the news stories of his own countries economic situation lately. Serbs should be more focused on survivial than land that has not been under Serbian rule for more than 13 years and no chance of ever being again.
Of course once again Mr Reality is probably not living IN Serbia so "no skin off his back".

Adem

pre 11 godina

Serbian position clear.
1. Get North Kosovo in exchange to recognise Kosova independence.
2. Betray deal - no recognise independence of Kosova.

truthiness

pre 11 godina

"the pessimist complains about the wind,
the optimist thinks it will change,
while the realist adjusts the sails and moves forward."

Seems reality has finally begun to appeal to certain Serbian politicians. Hopefully their Kosovo counterparts will take note and also adjust their positions.

Jesus Saves!

pre 11 godina

1 Kings 3:25 please read
(spygrant, 22 September 2012 19:02)

Next time try something from the New Testament. As you can see, we're all pretty much divided here; full of fear, blind, toothless.

Mark

pre 11 godina

"In this phase, anything that is not acceptance of the unilaterally declared independence of Kosovo is acceptable (to Serbia)... Brussels cannot force us to accept Kosovo's independence," the prime minister stressed, noting that five of the EU's member-countries also did not recognize Kosovo.

Brussels cannot force you to accept Kosovo and you cannot force Brussels to accept you in EU. Is Germany asking for any loans and help from Serbia to pay its government workers, or is the other way around? As for the partition of Kosovo,it will bring partition of Serbia also.Whatever status serbs in N.Kosovo get so will the Albanians,Bosnians and Hungarians in Serbia.

Mirel from Albania

pre 11 godina

@Toni,
I am an Albanian too and an Orthodox Christian one,
The exchange territory with the formal recognision of Kosova yes is a very good option.
But all serb politicans want partition or exchange territory WITHOUT FORMAL RECOGNISION of Kosova.And this is wrong and unacceptable.
Secondly,if the partition will take place the RS in Bonsia and Albanians in Macedonia will ask for partition.In the end Serbia and Albania will gain more but EU and USA can not tolerate another wave of Balkan wars which will take place during retailing Serbia and Kosova+Albania.


Exchange territorries Zubin Potok in exhange for Presheva follow by the formal recognision of Kosova by Serbia is the best solution,but Serbia wants those( like partition) without formal recognision.And this is not right,coz if Serbia will not recognise Kosova after a partition or exhange territorries take place,it will always a source for instability in Balkan,and u know Serbia looove to cause trouble in our region.

dejan

pre 11 godina

jovan if you are such a big serb move to kosovo.. dont preach your bs from far away.. talk is cheap

the real serbs defending kosovo live there.. all others are just looking for their 5 sec of fame.. again talk is cheap!

Mr. Reality

pre 11 godina

There will be no partition because Kosovo is been recognized with its current borders including the north and also it will send a message to Macedonia, preservation and Montenegro so it won't happened, the west does not want a partition...Serbs are just wasting time.if they recognize Kosovo they were gona be in the eu by now
(Eric, 22 September 2012 16:55)


If I were a Kosovo* Albanian I would worry more about how much wood and "Truman's eggs" will be available for the winter, and not issues that they have absolutely no control of.

justice4all

pre 11 godina

Partition?
It's like somebody robbing your home and then you negotiate with the robber on what you're going to get back from him.
Remain principled Serbia, don't let organ snatchers and thugs steal your land.

King marko

pre 11 godina

Read Kings 3:27

Then the king gave his ruling,  give the living baby to the first woman. Do not kill him, she is his mother.

Kosovo is Serbia, always was, always will be. Always.

You're Such a Dummy Demi

pre 11 godina

Why partition?? Albanians Will take over northern Kosova with time whether it's part of Serbia or Kosova. It is in the interest of Serbia to recognize Kosova and set an border. Serbia has no way to hide when the Albanian population in Kosova is growing very fast. Soon whole of south Serbia Will be Albanian owned land. It's game over for Serbia !!
(Demi, 22 September 2012 18:59)

I'm sure your silly little rant on B92 made you feel better, but Albanians can't even get respect for the two "border" guards flown in everyday to the north, and you talk of invasion and recognition? Stop playing your video games and come back to reality. Europe will not allow any forced incursion into the north because they know VS will respond and not only kick out whatever ROSU units invade, but will probably expel the unnecessary Albanian population that still remains in the north. On top of that, Serbs will have had enough of your crap and expel you from Presevo as well. What's your strategy for winning? More people? You tried that in 1999 and you still ran for the borders crying for America to help you when Milosevic ordered the troops to open fire. The population of Kosovo is DECREASING or did you miss the last census statement? And Albanians are looking for any means OUT of Kosovo because it's an economic hellhole.

The Idiot of Illyria

pre 11 godina

The only viable long term solution is there will be no partition of Kosova and East Kosova (Presheva valley area) will join with Kosova. Eventually Kosova will rejoin Albania. In twenty years the Albanians in the Balkans will out number Serbs.
(The Count of Kosova, 22 September 2012 18:33)

The only solution is therefore a Greater Albania? Sorry mate, but Europe is not interested in contributing to that, and I'd like to think that in 20 years, Albanians will come up with something more positive for humanity than unhealthy levels of overbreeding.

icj1

pre 11 godina

"PM: Partition of Kosovo only realistic solution"

Traitor... He forgot so fast that Kosovo, all of it, is Serbia. Even that traitor of Tadic did not manage in many years to betray the blood of the heroes of 1389 like Ivica has done several times in few weeks :)

MikeC

pre 11 godina

The Count of Kosov

So, Serbia should accept an independent Kosovo and that Presevo joins Kosovo/Albania. You honestly think anyone will accept that albanians steal more Serbian land? I'd like to see you try.

Demi

You seem to have an inferiority complex. No one is even noticing albanians and that seems to be your problem. Albnaians will always be inferior. Its not the fault of the serbs, montenegrins, macedonians etc its your own fault. Just read the comments here by albanians and you will realize why you are a problematic bunch of individuals.

CA

pre 11 godina

If you want Northern Kosovo, you better be prepared to swap it for the Presevo Valley. You can't get something you don't have for free.
(AC, 22 September 2012 14:52)

Nothing has to be swapped for Northern Kosovo; it would be nothing but a small compensation for the lands that will be lost in a partition and for which Albanians already will be offered a recognition. So even if Presevo is included, the only thing it could be swapped for is some enclaves/monasteries in the Southern part and together with corridors that link them with to Serbia. You can't get something you don't have for free...

serb supporter

pre 11 godina

sorry to burst your bubble you foolish albanians again but kosovo is still part of serbia and will not be partitioned, and you say you would swap for preshovo valley, but the difference is the serbs where there is a serb majority they are 98% if not a 100% and in preshovo well your not a majority anymore. you are majority in 1 town and thats it and you used to be 61,000 but hmm it shows now you are 40,000 in preshovo and dropping sorry albanians but you have declined and the swap well its just a dream so keep dreaming, lol.

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

The only viable long term solution is there will be no partition of Kosova and East Kosova (Presheva valley area) will join with Kosova. Eventually Kosova will rejoin Albania. In twenty years the Albanians in the Balkans will out number Serbs.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

I think that Northern Kosovo should be controlled by Serbia in any case while Southern enclaves could become little Vaticans independent from Prishtina in exchange for Preshevo.

Commentator

pre 11 godina

Nonsense! The majority of Serbs live South of Ibar. All relevant monestaries are there as well. The fact that Dacic states that proves that it is not about historic/religious reasons why Belgrade fights for Kosovo, but to win some square kilometers so that they can claim a "face-saving" compromise. The truth is that this "compromise" would just make this situation more complicated. See Presovo, see Macedonia, see Vojvodina. We have only losers except the small circle called Serbian politicians.

Partition is no viable solution any more. It was maybe before 2007, but not anymore. The old Romans said: Alea iacta est!

Demi

pre 11 godina

Why partition?? Albanians Will take over northern Kosova with time whether it's part of Serbia or Kosova. It is in the interest of Serbia to recognize Kosova and set an border. Serbia has no way to hide when the Albanian population in Kosova is growing very fast. Soon whole of south Serbia Will be Albanian owned land. It's game over for Serbia !!

Albanians are growing and getting stronger. We will be the regional leaders in the Balkans. We are an strong people and neighbouring countrys should respect us. It is in their own interest to show good neighbourly relations toward Albanians.

They dont know it yet but they are realising it. Soon they will understand it fully and clearly!!

Give them some time

pre 11 godina

Partition is a bad idea.This Dacic fellow is devious. If he achieves partition in Kosovo he will turn and ask for the partition of Bosnia to get Srpska region into his fold - this all being driven by the most primitive insticts without regard for consequences.No need for partitions of any territories. Eventually, Serbs i the northern part will come around and evolve into a civilised community.

DC

pre 11 godina

If you want Northern Kosovo, you better be prepared to swap it for the Presevo Valley. You can't get something you don't have for free.
(AC, 22 September 2012 14:52)

The only people getting something they don't have for free in this scenario would be Pristina since they don't control northern Kosovo and don't control Presevo Valley. If there is to be a partition, it will be just at the Ibar. No additional territorial swaps, and no joining with any other country like Albania will be allowed since Kosovo is a "special case" and the West has invested too much time and effort in supporting its survival as a state.

Shalom

pre 11 godina

Mr. Prime Minister, you are absolutely right. Partition is the only way to move forward, unfortunately none of the politicians on both sides of the isle have enough political capital to state the obvious. Prishtina is so dependent on Brussels and Washington that they simply can not decide on anything on their own. In fact Mr. Prime Minister what I propose to you is that you directly present your plan to Washington and if DC accepts your terms rest assured that it will be acceptable for Prishtina as well. If you truly desire peace then Serb populated areas should be swapped for the Albanian populated areas in this case we go back to the original borders of Kosovo including Presheve, Bujanovac and Medvegje and you take Zubin Potok, North Mitrovica and a few other villages. Serbia will finaly release itself from a huge liability it has incurred from ill conceived moves by its previous leaders in the past century.

Peace to all,

mick

pre 11 godina

Let´s say we divide the land, then what?
Will the lives of people get better?
Will Kosovo or Serbia be the next Luxembourg/Arab emirates/Switzerland?

I don't think so.
Anyway no partition!
Kosovo is part of Serbia, albanians chose to live in Serbia and if it happens you do not like Serbia you are free to go somewhere else!

only prison for narcoterrorist organ harvesters!!!

pre 11 godina

Yes partition is the only realistic option, everyone knows that; everyone has been thinking that for ages. Just that no-one dares admit it.Now show the world that you have balls and put the offer of partition on the table. So what if Pristina has to alter it's flag slightly. The sooner it all ends, the sooner people will benifit and be able to better themselves. Surely that is the most important thing.
(Ian, UK, 22 September 2012 12:40)

I say the most important "thing" is that the Kosovo* dream morphed into a giant Serbian carrot. If preserved
correctly it'll stay big enough for the EU to nibble on for a long long time--or choke.
If Serbia squanders this gift from the winds of Universe in any way, shape or form, then they can all write to their loved ones that it all fell through and that they are now officially world # 1 SLEPCI*

Kosovo* Serbian province in a state of rush limbo.

SLEPCI* Ignorant blind beggars.

Eric

pre 11 godina

There will be no partition because Kosovo is been recognized with its current borders including the north and also it will send a message to Macedonia, preservation and Montenegro so it won't happened, the west does not want a partition...Serbs are just wasting time.if they recognize Kosovo they were gona be in the eu by now

arti

pre 11 godina

Toni, 22 September 2012 13:29)

With all due respect Toni you claim to be an Albanian but yet don't think like one... I ask you why it would be stupid or nonsense unification? what would be the problem? as far as I'm concerned it would be natural and it would put an end to the last long conflicts that claimed the lifes of a lot of people in both sides....
It would get rid of the nationalistic ideas and territorial claims and what is more important it would pave the way of a future generation to grow up free of centurys old hate flame towards each other that has been going on.
As EA rightly pointed out that a partition should be on the table only as an exchange of territories othervise it would not be any good at all because it would still remain the problem of Albanians in south of Serbia.
Thanks,

Albanian

pre 11 godina

Toni... We know for a fact you're not an Albanian. Secondly, if you ever met an Albanian whether they are from Kosova or Albania. They will tell you their flag is their red and black double headed eagle. Also Kosova and Albania are as united as they can ever be. Borders do not exist among us.

Nice try Toni

MikeC

pre 11 godina

"...and they (serbs) would inevitably become target of Albanian retaliation."

Painte

Aren't they already? I mean, where have you been for the last 12 years? The reason serbs in the north of Kosovo don't want anything to do with albanians is because albanians keep terrorizing and murdering them. Should norther serbs accept Pristinas rule they will sooner or later be forced to move to a safer location in Serbia or face albanian terror. You don't have to take my word for it. Just look at what has happend the last couple of years.

Painter

pre 11 godina

Partition without ethnic cleansing in this case is impossible. Two thirds of Kosovo Serbs, about 60,000, live in the south, and they would inevitably become target of Albanian retaliation. It just goes to show that the Serbian government doesn't care about the Serbs in Kosovo, it just wants a piece of Kosovo land, not because it needs it, but to save face.

Toni

pre 11 godina

Dear EA, I have to choices but to disagree with your last sentence " KS should be allowed to join Albania". Why do you say that? Do you know if Albanians of Albania really want that? and on the basis of what evidence? Would it be better for AL and KS to be together? I strongly, repeat strongly doubt that. What is important is that the two states to be economically developed, with a functioning rule of law and concrete actions toward EU accession. All the rest, KS join Alb, great Alb is a total stupidity, non sens, not realistic and dangerous.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

Yes partition is the only realistic option, everyone knows that; everyone has been thinking that for ages. Just that no-one dares admit it.Now show the world that you have balls and put the offer of partition on the table. So what if Pristina has to alter it's flag slightly. The sooner it all ends, the sooner people will benifit and be able to better themselves. Surely that is the most important thing.

Jesus saves

pre 11 godina

A partition is for the time being the only solution to the Kosovo problem. Serbia should use the fact that it wont be able to join the Eu for many years to insist on freedom for serbs in Kosovo. Also the albanians in Kosovo have shown they are not able to protect the serbian minority there from extremist albanians elements. Countless attacks have resulted in zero arrests which is proof that albanians have no interest what so ever in protecting non-albanians.

Toni

pre 11 godina

And you are right Mr. Dacic! Beyond all the rhetoric useless nationalistic discussions from both sides ( I am an Albanian ) this is the most realistic scenario. Of course on both sides there are people who will not be satisfied, but we have to move forward at some point.

jovan

pre 11 godina

seems like Dacic wants to be remembered as a traitor. shut your mouth, Dacic. the western occupiers are getting weaker, and they know it. if we are patient, we will liberate our southern territory.

nothing is to be divided, it is all serbian. fullstop.

EA

pre 11 godina

"...anything that is not acceptance of the unilaterally declared independence of Kosovo is acceptable (to Serbia)..."

He is not as silly as I originally thought...)))) What was the Kosovo war about? To be fully independent from Serbia like the other consitutuent parts of former Yugoslavia.

Brussels cannot force us to accept Kosovo's independence," the prime minister stressed, noting that five of the EU's member-countries also did not recognize Kosovo. But the above "solution" would suit very much to Vojvodina. As far as I am aware Vojvodina had the same rights as Kosovo in former Yugoslavia....but there was not war/too many victims there.

As I have previously mention, a terrotitory swap can be considered in theory if that what Serbia wants but Serbia might shoot itself in the foot at the end. If such option is negotiated then Kosovo formally should be allowed to join Albania.

jovan

pre 11 godina

seems like Dacic wants to be remembered as a traitor. shut your mouth, Dacic. the western occupiers are getting weaker, and they know it. if we are patient, we will liberate our southern territory.

nothing is to be divided, it is all serbian. fullstop.

Painter

pre 11 godina

Partition without ethnic cleansing in this case is impossible. Two thirds of Kosovo Serbs, about 60,000, live in the south, and they would inevitably become target of Albanian retaliation. It just goes to show that the Serbian government doesn't care about the Serbs in Kosovo, it just wants a piece of Kosovo land, not because it needs it, but to save face.

Jesus saves

pre 11 godina

A partition is for the time being the only solution to the Kosovo problem. Serbia should use the fact that it wont be able to join the Eu for many years to insist on freedom for serbs in Kosovo. Also the albanians in Kosovo have shown they are not able to protect the serbian minority there from extremist albanians elements. Countless attacks have resulted in zero arrests which is proof that albanians have no interest what so ever in protecting non-albanians.

Toni

pre 11 godina

And you are right Mr. Dacic! Beyond all the rhetoric useless nationalistic discussions from both sides ( I am an Albanian ) this is the most realistic scenario. Of course on both sides there are people who will not be satisfied, but we have to move forward at some point.

Albanian

pre 11 godina

Toni... We know for a fact you're not an Albanian. Secondly, if you ever met an Albanian whether they are from Kosova or Albania. They will tell you their flag is their red and black double headed eagle. Also Kosova and Albania are as united as they can ever be. Borders do not exist among us.

Nice try Toni

EA

pre 11 godina

"...anything that is not acceptance of the unilaterally declared independence of Kosovo is acceptable (to Serbia)..."

He is not as silly as I originally thought...)))) What was the Kosovo war about? To be fully independent from Serbia like the other consitutuent parts of former Yugoslavia.

Brussels cannot force us to accept Kosovo's independence," the prime minister stressed, noting that five of the EU's member-countries also did not recognize Kosovo. But the above "solution" would suit very much to Vojvodina. As far as I am aware Vojvodina had the same rights as Kosovo in former Yugoslavia....but there was not war/too many victims there.

As I have previously mention, a terrotitory swap can be considered in theory if that what Serbia wants but Serbia might shoot itself in the foot at the end. If such option is negotiated then Kosovo formally should be allowed to join Albania.

dejan

pre 11 godina

jovan if you are such a big serb move to kosovo.. dont preach your bs from far away.. talk is cheap

the real serbs defending kosovo live there.. all others are just looking for their 5 sec of fame.. again talk is cheap!

MikeC

pre 11 godina

"...and they (serbs) would inevitably become target of Albanian retaliation."

Painte

Aren't they already? I mean, where have you been for the last 12 years? The reason serbs in the north of Kosovo don't want anything to do with albanians is because albanians keep terrorizing and murdering them. Should norther serbs accept Pristinas rule they will sooner or later be forced to move to a safer location in Serbia or face albanian terror. You don't have to take my word for it. Just look at what has happend the last couple of years.

justice4all

pre 11 godina

Partition?
It's like somebody robbing your home and then you negotiate with the robber on what you're going to get back from him.
Remain principled Serbia, don't let organ snatchers and thugs steal your land.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

Yes partition is the only realistic option, everyone knows that; everyone has been thinking that for ages. Just that no-one dares admit it.Now show the world that you have balls and put the offer of partition on the table. So what if Pristina has to alter it's flag slightly. The sooner it all ends, the sooner people will benifit and be able to better themselves. Surely that is the most important thing.

Toni

pre 11 godina

Dear EA, I have to choices but to disagree with your last sentence " KS should be allowed to join Albania". Why do you say that? Do you know if Albanians of Albania really want that? and on the basis of what evidence? Would it be better for AL and KS to be together? I strongly, repeat strongly doubt that. What is important is that the two states to be economically developed, with a functioning rule of law and concrete actions toward EU accession. All the rest, KS join Alb, great Alb is a total stupidity, non sens, not realistic and dangerous.

arti

pre 11 godina

Toni, 22 September 2012 13:29)

With all due respect Toni you claim to be an Albanian but yet don't think like one... I ask you why it would be stupid or nonsense unification? what would be the problem? as far as I'm concerned it would be natural and it would put an end to the last long conflicts that claimed the lifes of a lot of people in both sides....
It would get rid of the nationalistic ideas and territorial claims and what is more important it would pave the way of a future generation to grow up free of centurys old hate flame towards each other that has been going on.
As EA rightly pointed out that a partition should be on the table only as an exchange of territories othervise it would not be any good at all because it would still remain the problem of Albanians in south of Serbia.
Thanks,

mick

pre 11 godina

Let´s say we divide the land, then what?
Will the lives of people get better?
Will Kosovo or Serbia be the next Luxembourg/Arab emirates/Switzerland?

I don't think so.
Anyway no partition!
Kosovo is part of Serbia, albanians chose to live in Serbia and if it happens you do not like Serbia you are free to go somewhere else!

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

The only viable long term solution is there will be no partition of Kosova and East Kosova (Presheva valley area) will join with Kosova. Eventually Kosova will rejoin Albania. In twenty years the Albanians in the Balkans will out number Serbs.

You're Such a Dummy Demi

pre 11 godina

Why partition?? Albanians Will take over northern Kosova with time whether it's part of Serbia or Kosova. It is in the interest of Serbia to recognize Kosova and set an border. Serbia has no way to hide when the Albanian population in Kosova is growing very fast. Soon whole of south Serbia Will be Albanian owned land. It's game over for Serbia !!
(Demi, 22 September 2012 18:59)

I'm sure your silly little rant on B92 made you feel better, but Albanians can't even get respect for the two "border" guards flown in everyday to the north, and you talk of invasion and recognition? Stop playing your video games and come back to reality. Europe will not allow any forced incursion into the north because they know VS will respond and not only kick out whatever ROSU units invade, but will probably expel the unnecessary Albanian population that still remains in the north. On top of that, Serbs will have had enough of your crap and expel you from Presevo as well. What's your strategy for winning? More people? You tried that in 1999 and you still ran for the borders crying for America to help you when Milosevic ordered the troops to open fire. The population of Kosovo is DECREASING or did you miss the last census statement? And Albanians are looking for any means OUT of Kosovo because it's an economic hellhole.

Shalom

pre 11 godina

Mr. Prime Minister, you are absolutely right. Partition is the only way to move forward, unfortunately none of the politicians on both sides of the isle have enough political capital to state the obvious. Prishtina is so dependent on Brussels and Washington that they simply can not decide on anything on their own. In fact Mr. Prime Minister what I propose to you is that you directly present your plan to Washington and if DC accepts your terms rest assured that it will be acceptable for Prishtina as well. If you truly desire peace then Serb populated areas should be swapped for the Albanian populated areas in this case we go back to the original borders of Kosovo including Presheve, Bujanovac and Medvegje and you take Zubin Potok, North Mitrovica and a few other villages. Serbia will finaly release itself from a huge liability it has incurred from ill conceived moves by its previous leaders in the past century.

Peace to all,

Commentator

pre 11 godina

Nonsense! The majority of Serbs live South of Ibar. All relevant monestaries are there as well. The fact that Dacic states that proves that it is not about historic/religious reasons why Belgrade fights for Kosovo, but to win some square kilometers so that they can claim a "face-saving" compromise. The truth is that this "compromise" would just make this situation more complicated. See Presovo, see Macedonia, see Vojvodina. We have only losers except the small circle called Serbian politicians.

Partition is no viable solution any more. It was maybe before 2007, but not anymore. The old Romans said: Alea iacta est!

serb supporter

pre 11 godina

sorry to burst your bubble you foolish albanians again but kosovo is still part of serbia and will not be partitioned, and you say you would swap for preshovo valley, but the difference is the serbs where there is a serb majority they are 98% if not a 100% and in preshovo well your not a majority anymore. you are majority in 1 town and thats it and you used to be 61,000 but hmm it shows now you are 40,000 in preshovo and dropping sorry albanians but you have declined and the swap well its just a dream so keep dreaming, lol.

Demi

pre 11 godina

Why partition?? Albanians Will take over northern Kosova with time whether it's part of Serbia or Kosova. It is in the interest of Serbia to recognize Kosova and set an border. Serbia has no way to hide when the Albanian population in Kosova is growing very fast. Soon whole of south Serbia Will be Albanian owned land. It's game over for Serbia !!

Albanians are growing and getting stronger. We will be the regional leaders in the Balkans. We are an strong people and neighbouring countrys should respect us. It is in their own interest to show good neighbourly relations toward Albanians.

They dont know it yet but they are realising it. Soon they will understand it fully and clearly!!

Eric

pre 11 godina

There will be no partition because Kosovo is been recognized with its current borders including the north and also it will send a message to Macedonia, preservation and Montenegro so it won't happened, the west does not want a partition...Serbs are just wasting time.if they recognize Kosovo they were gona be in the eu by now

Mirel from Albania

pre 11 godina

@Toni,
I am an Albanian too and an Orthodox Christian one,
The exchange territory with the formal recognision of Kosova yes is a very good option.
But all serb politicans want partition or exchange territory WITHOUT FORMAL RECOGNISION of Kosova.And this is wrong and unacceptable.
Secondly,if the partition will take place the RS in Bonsia and Albanians in Macedonia will ask for partition.In the end Serbia and Albania will gain more but EU and USA can not tolerate another wave of Balkan wars which will take place during retailing Serbia and Kosova+Albania.


Exchange territorries Zubin Potok in exhange for Presheva follow by the formal recognision of Kosova by Serbia is the best solution,but Serbia wants those( like partition) without formal recognision.And this is not right,coz if Serbia will not recognise Kosova after a partition or exhange territorries take place,it will always a source for instability in Balkan,and u know Serbia looove to cause trouble in our region.

King marko

pre 11 godina

Read Kings 3:27

Then the king gave his ruling,  give the living baby to the first woman. Do not kill him, she is his mother.

Kosovo is Serbia, always was, always will be. Always.

Mark

pre 11 godina

"In this phase, anything that is not acceptance of the unilaterally declared independence of Kosovo is acceptable (to Serbia)... Brussels cannot force us to accept Kosovo's independence," the prime minister stressed, noting that five of the EU's member-countries also did not recognize Kosovo.

Brussels cannot force you to accept Kosovo and you cannot force Brussels to accept you in EU. Is Germany asking for any loans and help from Serbia to pay its government workers, or is the other way around? As for the partition of Kosovo,it will bring partition of Serbia also.Whatever status serbs in N.Kosovo get so will the Albanians,Bosnians and Hungarians in Serbia.

DC

pre 11 godina

If you want Northern Kosovo, you better be prepared to swap it for the Presevo Valley. You can't get something you don't have for free.
(AC, 22 September 2012 14:52)

The only people getting something they don't have for free in this scenario would be Pristina since they don't control northern Kosovo and don't control Presevo Valley. If there is to be a partition, it will be just at the Ibar. No additional territorial swaps, and no joining with any other country like Albania will be allowed since Kosovo is a "special case" and the West has invested too much time and effort in supporting its survival as a state.

Give them some time

pre 11 godina

Partition is a bad idea.This Dacic fellow is devious. If he achieves partition in Kosovo he will turn and ask for the partition of Bosnia to get Srpska region into his fold - this all being driven by the most primitive insticts without regard for consequences.No need for partitions of any territories. Eventually, Serbs i the northern part will come around and evolve into a civilised community.

icj1

pre 11 godina

"PM: Partition of Kosovo only realistic solution"

Traitor... He forgot so fast that Kosovo, all of it, is Serbia. Even that traitor of Tadic did not manage in many years to betray the blood of the heroes of 1389 like Ivica has done several times in few weeks :)

MikeC

pre 11 godina

The Count of Kosov

So, Serbia should accept an independent Kosovo and that Presevo joins Kosovo/Albania. You honestly think anyone will accept that albanians steal more Serbian land? I'd like to see you try.

Demi

You seem to have an inferiority complex. No one is even noticing albanians and that seems to be your problem. Albnaians will always be inferior. Its not the fault of the serbs, montenegrins, macedonians etc its your own fault. Just read the comments here by albanians and you will realize why you are a problematic bunch of individuals.

The Idiot of Illyria

pre 11 godina

The only viable long term solution is there will be no partition of Kosova and East Kosova (Presheva valley area) will join with Kosova. Eventually Kosova will rejoin Albania. In twenty years the Albanians in the Balkans will out number Serbs.
(The Count of Kosova, 22 September 2012 18:33)

The only solution is therefore a Greater Albania? Sorry mate, but Europe is not interested in contributing to that, and I'd like to think that in 20 years, Albanians will come up with something more positive for humanity than unhealthy levels of overbreeding.

CA

pre 11 godina

If you want Northern Kosovo, you better be prepared to swap it for the Presevo Valley. You can't get something you don't have for free.
(AC, 22 September 2012 14:52)

Nothing has to be swapped for Northern Kosovo; it would be nothing but a small compensation for the lands that will be lost in a partition and for which Albanians already will be offered a recognition. So even if Presevo is included, the only thing it could be swapped for is some enclaves/monasteries in the Southern part and together with corridors that link them with to Serbia. You can't get something you don't have for free...

only prison for narcoterrorist organ harvesters!!!

pre 11 godina

Yes partition is the only realistic option, everyone knows that; everyone has been thinking that for ages. Just that no-one dares admit it.Now show the world that you have balls and put the offer of partition on the table. So what if Pristina has to alter it's flag slightly. The sooner it all ends, the sooner people will benifit and be able to better themselves. Surely that is the most important thing.
(Ian, UK, 22 September 2012 12:40)

I say the most important "thing" is that the Kosovo* dream morphed into a giant Serbian carrot. If preserved
correctly it'll stay big enough for the EU to nibble on for a long long time--or choke.
If Serbia squanders this gift from the winds of Universe in any way, shape or form, then they can all write to their loved ones that it all fell through and that they are now officially world # 1 SLEPCI*

Kosovo* Serbian province in a state of rush limbo.

SLEPCI* Ignorant blind beggars.

Mr. Reality

pre 11 godina

There will be no partition because Kosovo is been recognized with its current borders including the north and also it will send a message to Macedonia, preservation and Montenegro so it won't happened, the west does not want a partition...Serbs are just wasting time.if they recognize Kosovo they were gona be in the eu by now
(Eric, 22 September 2012 16:55)


If I were a Kosovo* Albanian I would worry more about how much wood and "Truman's eggs" will be available for the winter, and not issues that they have absolutely no control of.

Bekim_Novi Sad

pre 11 godina

Toni... We know for a fact you're not an Albanian. Secondly, if you ever met an Albanian whether they are from Kosova or Albania. They will tell you their flag is their red and black double headed eagle. Also Kosova and Albania are as united as they can ever be. Borders do not exist among us.

Nice try Toni
(Albanian, 22 September 2012 15:44)

Ultranationalist Albanian questions another Albanian because he doesnt hate Serbs enough, well here is one Albanian to tell you that here is another one who agrees with Toni. A compromise is the only solution to this and if its a partition, then so be it. Presevo Valley or anywhere else in Serbia that has been mentioned by the extremists are not on the table. The issue here is Kosovo and only Kosovo.

To the Serb ultranationalists who say not one inch, no surrender.. you are entitled to hold that opinion but a realistic agreement acceptable to all should and can be found. It is vital for this so the region can move on as the dispute hinders future economic growth and development. Ah what am I saying, most of the ultranationalist Serb & Albanian loons are living in either Toronto, New York, Berlin etc. where they have the comfort of having the opportunity and benefits of living in the West that the rest of us dont have. We struggle on. Its time for this to end and fix the damn economy. We need jobs.

One way ticket

pre 11 godina

We struggle on. Its time for this to end and fix the damn economy. We need jobs.
(Bekim_Novi Sad, 23 September 2012 13:37)

If you wouldn't have taken the job of being one of Milosevic's "honest" Albanians you wouldn't be stuck in Novi Sad.

One way ticket

pre 11 godina

Yes, but what some people like to forget to mention: Recognized only by by about half the countries in the world, with no chance ever for Kosovo to become a normal state like the other UN members.
(Comm. Parrisson, 23 September 2012 14:12)

You like (or rather wish)to forget that Serbia in its current borders isn't recognized by half of the world.

Hope you enjoy life in your famous Serbia half of the world doesn't recognize.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

I think that Northern Kosovo should be controlled by Serbia in any case while Southern enclaves could become little Vaticans independent from Prishtina in exchange for Preshevo.

icj1

pre 11 godina

with no chance ever for Kosovo to become a normal state like the other UN members.
(Comm. Parrisson, 23 September 2012 14:12)

Wooow, Serbia citizens would be aghast to learn that Serbia became a normal state only in 1945 and Switzerland citizens would be aghast to learn that they became a normal state in 2002 and Vatican citizens would be aghast to learn that they are not a normal state. And why they are not a normal state ?! Because somebody called Comm. Parrisson has so ruled LOL

a New Day

pre 11 godina

Mr. Reality, 22 September 2012 21:54)
Apparently Mr Reality has not been paying attention to the news stories of his own countries economic situation lately. Serbs should be more focused on survivial than land that has not been under Serbian rule for more than 13 years and no chance of ever being again.
Of course once again Mr Reality is probably not living IN Serbia so "no skin off his back".

Adem

pre 11 godina

Serbian position clear.
1. Get North Kosovo in exchange to recognise Kosova independence.
2. Betray deal - no recognise independence of Kosova.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"There will be no partition because Kosovo is been recognized with its current borders including the north ...."
(Eric, 22 September 2012 16:55)

Yes, but what some people like to forget to mention: Recognized only by by about half the countries in the world, with no chance ever for Kosovo to become a normal state like the other UN members.

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 11 godina

If you wouldn't have taken the job of being one of Milosevic's "honest" Albanians you wouldn't be stuck in Novi Sad.
(One way ticket, 23 September 2012 19:58)

As opposed to being some poor and barely literate dishwasher in a New York pizzeria and spending every minute of their break time on a Serbian news portal talking nonsensical garbage? I'll take the "loyal" Albanian with logical arguments and a mature personality over the dumb and irrelevant Gastarbeiter any day.

Jesus Saves!

pre 11 godina

1 Kings 3:25 please read
(spygrant, 22 September 2012 19:02)

Next time try something from the New Testament. As you can see, we're all pretty much divided here; full of fear, blind, toothless.

think again

pre 11 godina

You're Such a Dummy Demi, 22 September 2012 20:42)
After reading your rant and empty threats only one phrase comes to mind.
Listen to the pot call the kettle black.

truthiness

pre 11 godina

"the pessimist complains about the wind,
the optimist thinks it will change,
while the realist adjusts the sails and moves forward."

Seems reality has finally begun to appeal to certain Serbian politicians. Hopefully their Kosovo counterparts will take note and also adjust their positions.

Sam Xheferi

pre 11 godina

Serbs and Albanians both nkow Partition is only solution but the problem is , its not just Kosovo that gets partitioned.

North Kosovo to Serbia
SouthWest Serbia to Kosovo
Western Macedonia and 25% of Skopije to Kosovo.
Sandzak to Bosnia
SRB republik to Serbia
Ulcin to Albania
Southeast Montenegro to Kosovo

When all this happens then Partition is OK..

jovan

pre 11 godina

seems like Dacic wants to be remembered as a traitor. shut your mouth, Dacic. the western occupiers are getting weaker, and they know it. if we are patient, we will liberate our southern territory.

nothing is to be divided, it is all serbian. fullstop.

Toni

pre 11 godina

And you are right Mr. Dacic! Beyond all the rhetoric useless nationalistic discussions from both sides ( I am an Albanian ) this is the most realistic scenario. Of course on both sides there are people who will not be satisfied, but we have to move forward at some point.

Jesus saves

pre 11 godina

A partition is for the time being the only solution to the Kosovo problem. Serbia should use the fact that it wont be able to join the Eu for many years to insist on freedom for serbs in Kosovo. Also the albanians in Kosovo have shown they are not able to protect the serbian minority there from extremist albanians elements. Countless attacks have resulted in zero arrests which is proof that albanians have no interest what so ever in protecting non-albanians.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

"...and they (serbs) would inevitably become target of Albanian retaliation."

Painte

Aren't they already? I mean, where have you been for the last 12 years? The reason serbs in the north of Kosovo don't want anything to do with albanians is because albanians keep terrorizing and murdering them. Should norther serbs accept Pristinas rule they will sooner or later be forced to move to a safer location in Serbia or face albanian terror. You don't have to take my word for it. Just look at what has happend the last couple of years.

Ian, UK

pre 11 godina

Yes partition is the only realistic option, everyone knows that; everyone has been thinking that for ages. Just that no-one dares admit it.Now show the world that you have balls and put the offer of partition on the table. So what if Pristina has to alter it's flag slightly. The sooner it all ends, the sooner people will benifit and be able to better themselves. Surely that is the most important thing.

serb supporter

pre 11 godina

sorry to burst your bubble you foolish albanians again but kosovo is still part of serbia and will not be partitioned, and you say you would swap for preshovo valley, but the difference is the serbs where there is a serb majority they are 98% if not a 100% and in preshovo well your not a majority anymore. you are majority in 1 town and thats it and you used to be 61,000 but hmm it shows now you are 40,000 in preshovo and dropping sorry albanians but you have declined and the swap well its just a dream so keep dreaming, lol.

Albanian

pre 11 godina

Toni... We know for a fact you're not an Albanian. Secondly, if you ever met an Albanian whether they are from Kosova or Albania. They will tell you their flag is their red and black double headed eagle. Also Kosova and Albania are as united as they can ever be. Borders do not exist among us.

Nice try Toni

The Count of Kosova

pre 11 godina

The only viable long term solution is there will be no partition of Kosova and East Kosova (Presheva valley area) will join with Kosova. Eventually Kosova will rejoin Albania. In twenty years the Albanians in the Balkans will out number Serbs.

Demi

pre 11 godina

Why partition?? Albanians Will take over northern Kosova with time whether it's part of Serbia or Kosova. It is in the interest of Serbia to recognize Kosova and set an border. Serbia has no way to hide when the Albanian population in Kosova is growing very fast. Soon whole of south Serbia Will be Albanian owned land. It's game over for Serbia !!

Albanians are growing and getting stronger. We will be the regional leaders in the Balkans. We are an strong people and neighbouring countrys should respect us. It is in their own interest to show good neighbourly relations toward Albanians.

They dont know it yet but they are realising it. Soon they will understand it fully and clearly!!

Toni

pre 11 godina

Dear EA, I have to choices but to disagree with your last sentence " KS should be allowed to join Albania". Why do you say that? Do you know if Albanians of Albania really want that? and on the basis of what evidence? Would it be better for AL and KS to be together? I strongly, repeat strongly doubt that. What is important is that the two states to be economically developed, with a functioning rule of law and concrete actions toward EU accession. All the rest, KS join Alb, great Alb is a total stupidity, non sens, not realistic and dangerous.

King marko

pre 11 godina

Read Kings 3:27

Then the king gave his ruling,  give the living baby to the first woman. Do not kill him, she is his mother.

Kosovo is Serbia, always was, always will be. Always.

justice4all

pre 11 godina

Partition?
It's like somebody robbing your home and then you negotiate with the robber on what you're going to get back from him.
Remain principled Serbia, don't let organ snatchers and thugs steal your land.

EA

pre 11 godina

"...anything that is not acceptance of the unilaterally declared independence of Kosovo is acceptable (to Serbia)..."

He is not as silly as I originally thought...)))) What was the Kosovo war about? To be fully independent from Serbia like the other consitutuent parts of former Yugoslavia.

Brussels cannot force us to accept Kosovo's independence," the prime minister stressed, noting that five of the EU's member-countries also did not recognize Kosovo. But the above "solution" would suit very much to Vojvodina. As far as I am aware Vojvodina had the same rights as Kosovo in former Yugoslavia....but there was not war/too many victims there.

As I have previously mention, a terrotitory swap can be considered in theory if that what Serbia wants but Serbia might shoot itself in the foot at the end. If such option is negotiated then Kosovo formally should be allowed to join Albania.

mick

pre 11 godina

Let´s say we divide the land, then what?
Will the lives of people get better?
Will Kosovo or Serbia be the next Luxembourg/Arab emirates/Switzerland?

I don't think so.
Anyway no partition!
Kosovo is part of Serbia, albanians chose to live in Serbia and if it happens you do not like Serbia you are free to go somewhere else!

arti

pre 11 godina

Toni, 22 September 2012 13:29)

With all due respect Toni you claim to be an Albanian but yet don't think like one... I ask you why it would be stupid or nonsense unification? what would be the problem? as far as I'm concerned it would be natural and it would put an end to the last long conflicts that claimed the lifes of a lot of people in both sides....
It would get rid of the nationalistic ideas and territorial claims and what is more important it would pave the way of a future generation to grow up free of centurys old hate flame towards each other that has been going on.
As EA rightly pointed out that a partition should be on the table only as an exchange of territories othervise it would not be any good at all because it would still remain the problem of Albanians in south of Serbia.
Thanks,

The Idiot of Illyria

pre 11 godina

The only viable long term solution is there will be no partition of Kosova and East Kosova (Presheva valley area) will join with Kosova. Eventually Kosova will rejoin Albania. In twenty years the Albanians in the Balkans will out number Serbs.
(The Count of Kosova, 22 September 2012 18:33)

The only solution is therefore a Greater Albania? Sorry mate, but Europe is not interested in contributing to that, and I'd like to think that in 20 years, Albanians will come up with something more positive for humanity than unhealthy levels of overbreeding.

Mr. Reality

pre 11 godina

There will be no partition because Kosovo is been recognized with its current borders including the north and also it will send a message to Macedonia, preservation and Montenegro so it won't happened, the west does not want a partition...Serbs are just wasting time.if they recognize Kosovo they were gona be in the eu by now
(Eric, 22 September 2012 16:55)


If I were a Kosovo* Albanian I would worry more about how much wood and "Truman's eggs" will be available for the winter, and not issues that they have absolutely no control of.

Eric

pre 11 godina

There will be no partition because Kosovo is been recognized with its current borders including the north and also it will send a message to Macedonia, preservation and Montenegro so it won't happened, the west does not want a partition...Serbs are just wasting time.if they recognize Kosovo they were gona be in the eu by now

icj1

pre 11 godina

"PM: Partition of Kosovo only realistic solution"

Traitor... He forgot so fast that Kosovo, all of it, is Serbia. Even that traitor of Tadic did not manage in many years to betray the blood of the heroes of 1389 like Ivica has done several times in few weeks :)

You're Such a Dummy Demi

pre 11 godina

Why partition?? Albanians Will take over northern Kosova with time whether it's part of Serbia or Kosova. It is in the interest of Serbia to recognize Kosova and set an border. Serbia has no way to hide when the Albanian population in Kosova is growing very fast. Soon whole of south Serbia Will be Albanian owned land. It's game over for Serbia !!
(Demi, 22 September 2012 18:59)

I'm sure your silly little rant on B92 made you feel better, but Albanians can't even get respect for the two "border" guards flown in everyday to the north, and you talk of invasion and recognition? Stop playing your video games and come back to reality. Europe will not allow any forced incursion into the north because they know VS will respond and not only kick out whatever ROSU units invade, but will probably expel the unnecessary Albanian population that still remains in the north. On top of that, Serbs will have had enough of your crap and expel you from Presevo as well. What's your strategy for winning? More people? You tried that in 1999 and you still ran for the borders crying for America to help you when Milosevic ordered the troops to open fire. The population of Kosovo is DECREASING or did you miss the last census statement? And Albanians are looking for any means OUT of Kosovo because it's an economic hellhole.

aaayyy

pre 11 godina

I think that Northern Kosovo should be controlled by Serbia in any case while Southern enclaves could become little Vaticans independent from Prishtina in exchange for Preshevo.

Shalom

pre 11 godina

Mr. Prime Minister, you are absolutely right. Partition is the only way to move forward, unfortunately none of the politicians on both sides of the isle have enough political capital to state the obvious. Prishtina is so dependent on Brussels and Washington that they simply can not decide on anything on their own. In fact Mr. Prime Minister what I propose to you is that you directly present your plan to Washington and if DC accepts your terms rest assured that it will be acceptable for Prishtina as well. If you truly desire peace then Serb populated areas should be swapped for the Albanian populated areas in this case we go back to the original borders of Kosovo including Presheve, Bujanovac and Medvegje and you take Zubin Potok, North Mitrovica and a few other villages. Serbia will finaly release itself from a huge liability it has incurred from ill conceived moves by its previous leaders in the past century.

Peace to all,

DC

pre 11 godina

If you want Northern Kosovo, you better be prepared to swap it for the Presevo Valley. You can't get something you don't have for free.
(AC, 22 September 2012 14:52)

The only people getting something they don't have for free in this scenario would be Pristina since they don't control northern Kosovo and don't control Presevo Valley. If there is to be a partition, it will be just at the Ibar. No additional territorial swaps, and no joining with any other country like Albania will be allowed since Kosovo is a "special case" and the West has invested too much time and effort in supporting its survival as a state.

only prison for narcoterrorist organ harvesters!!!

pre 11 godina

Yes partition is the only realistic option, everyone knows that; everyone has been thinking that for ages. Just that no-one dares admit it.Now show the world that you have balls and put the offer of partition on the table. So what if Pristina has to alter it's flag slightly. The sooner it all ends, the sooner people will benifit and be able to better themselves. Surely that is the most important thing.
(Ian, UK, 22 September 2012 12:40)

I say the most important "thing" is that the Kosovo* dream morphed into a giant Serbian carrot. If preserved
correctly it'll stay big enough for the EU to nibble on for a long long time--or choke.
If Serbia squanders this gift from the winds of Universe in any way, shape or form, then they can all write to their loved ones that it all fell through and that they are now officially world # 1 SLEPCI*

Kosovo* Serbian province in a state of rush limbo.

SLEPCI* Ignorant blind beggars.

MikeC

pre 11 godina

The Count of Kosov

So, Serbia should accept an independent Kosovo and that Presevo joins Kosovo/Albania. You honestly think anyone will accept that albanians steal more Serbian land? I'd like to see you try.

Demi

You seem to have an inferiority complex. No one is even noticing albanians and that seems to be your problem. Albnaians will always be inferior. Its not the fault of the serbs, montenegrins, macedonians etc its your own fault. Just read the comments here by albanians and you will realize why you are a problematic bunch of individuals.

Mirel from Albania

pre 11 godina

@Toni,
I am an Albanian too and an Orthodox Christian one,
The exchange territory with the formal recognision of Kosova yes is a very good option.
But all serb politicans want partition or exchange territory WITHOUT FORMAL RECOGNISION of Kosova.And this is wrong and unacceptable.
Secondly,if the partition will take place the RS in Bonsia and Albanians in Macedonia will ask for partition.In the end Serbia and Albania will gain more but EU and USA can not tolerate another wave of Balkan wars which will take place during retailing Serbia and Kosova+Albania.


Exchange territorries Zubin Potok in exhange for Presheva follow by the formal recognision of Kosova by Serbia is the best solution,but Serbia wants those( like partition) without formal recognision.And this is not right,coz if Serbia will not recognise Kosova after a partition or exhange territorries take place,it will always a source for instability in Balkan,and u know Serbia looove to cause trouble in our region.

Bekim_Novi Sad

pre 11 godina

Toni... We know for a fact you're not an Albanian. Secondly, if you ever met an Albanian whether they are from Kosova or Albania. They will tell you their flag is their red and black double headed eagle. Also Kosova and Albania are as united as they can ever be. Borders do not exist among us.

Nice try Toni
(Albanian, 22 September 2012 15:44)

Ultranationalist Albanian questions another Albanian because he doesnt hate Serbs enough, well here is one Albanian to tell you that here is another one who agrees with Toni. A compromise is the only solution to this and if its a partition, then so be it. Presevo Valley or anywhere else in Serbia that has been mentioned by the extremists are not on the table. The issue here is Kosovo and only Kosovo.

To the Serb ultranationalists who say not one inch, no surrender.. you are entitled to hold that opinion but a realistic agreement acceptable to all should and can be found. It is vital for this so the region can move on as the dispute hinders future economic growth and development. Ah what am I saying, most of the ultranationalist Serb & Albanian loons are living in either Toronto, New York, Berlin etc. where they have the comfort of having the opportunity and benefits of living in the West that the rest of us dont have. We struggle on. Its time for this to end and fix the damn economy. We need jobs.

Painter

pre 11 godina

Partition without ethnic cleansing in this case is impossible. Two thirds of Kosovo Serbs, about 60,000, live in the south, and they would inevitably become target of Albanian retaliation. It just goes to show that the Serbian government doesn't care about the Serbs in Kosovo, it just wants a piece of Kosovo land, not because it needs it, but to save face.

CA

pre 11 godina

If you want Northern Kosovo, you better be prepared to swap it for the Presevo Valley. You can't get something you don't have for free.
(AC, 22 September 2012 14:52)

Nothing has to be swapped for Northern Kosovo; it would be nothing but a small compensation for the lands that will be lost in a partition and for which Albanians already will be offered a recognition. So even if Presevo is included, the only thing it could be swapped for is some enclaves/monasteries in the Southern part and together with corridors that link them with to Serbia. You can't get something you don't have for free...

Give them some time

pre 11 godina

Partition is a bad idea.This Dacic fellow is devious. If he achieves partition in Kosovo he will turn and ask for the partition of Bosnia to get Srpska region into his fold - this all being driven by the most primitive insticts without regard for consequences.No need for partitions of any territories. Eventually, Serbs i the northern part will come around and evolve into a civilised community.

Jesus Saves!

pre 11 godina

1 Kings 3:25 please read
(spygrant, 22 September 2012 19:02)

Next time try something from the New Testament. As you can see, we're all pretty much divided here; full of fear, blind, toothless.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 11 godina

"There will be no partition because Kosovo is been recognized with its current borders including the north ...."
(Eric, 22 September 2012 16:55)

Yes, but what some people like to forget to mention: Recognized only by by about half the countries in the world, with no chance ever for Kosovo to become a normal state like the other UN members.

Mark

pre 11 godina

"In this phase, anything that is not acceptance of the unilaterally declared independence of Kosovo is acceptable (to Serbia)... Brussels cannot force us to accept Kosovo's independence," the prime minister stressed, noting that five of the EU's member-countries also did not recognize Kosovo.

Brussels cannot force you to accept Kosovo and you cannot force Brussels to accept you in EU. Is Germany asking for any loans and help from Serbia to pay its government workers, or is the other way around? As for the partition of Kosovo,it will bring partition of Serbia also.Whatever status serbs in N.Kosovo get so will the Albanians,Bosnians and Hungarians in Serbia.

One way ticket

pre 11 godina

Yes, but what some people like to forget to mention: Recognized only by by about half the countries in the world, with no chance ever for Kosovo to become a normal state like the other UN members.
(Comm. Parrisson, 23 September 2012 14:12)

You like (or rather wish)to forget that Serbia in its current borders isn't recognized by half of the world.

Hope you enjoy life in your famous Serbia half of the world doesn't recognize.

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 11 godina

If you wouldn't have taken the job of being one of Milosevic's "honest" Albanians you wouldn't be stuck in Novi Sad.
(One way ticket, 23 September 2012 19:58)

As opposed to being some poor and barely literate dishwasher in a New York pizzeria and spending every minute of their break time on a Serbian news portal talking nonsensical garbage? I'll take the "loyal" Albanian with logical arguments and a mature personality over the dumb and irrelevant Gastarbeiter any day.

Commentator

pre 11 godina

Nonsense! The majority of Serbs live South of Ibar. All relevant monestaries are there as well. The fact that Dacic states that proves that it is not about historic/religious reasons why Belgrade fights for Kosovo, but to win some square kilometers so that they can claim a "face-saving" compromise. The truth is that this "compromise" would just make this situation more complicated. See Presovo, see Macedonia, see Vojvodina. We have only losers except the small circle called Serbian politicians.

Partition is no viable solution any more. It was maybe before 2007, but not anymore. The old Romans said: Alea iacta est!

think again

pre 11 godina

You're Such a Dummy Demi, 22 September 2012 20:42)
After reading your rant and empty threats only one phrase comes to mind.
Listen to the pot call the kettle black.

dejan

pre 11 godina

jovan if you are such a big serb move to kosovo.. dont preach your bs from far away.. talk is cheap

the real serbs defending kosovo live there.. all others are just looking for their 5 sec of fame.. again talk is cheap!

Adem

pre 11 godina

Serbian position clear.
1. Get North Kosovo in exchange to recognise Kosova independence.
2. Betray deal - no recognise independence of Kosova.

a New Day

pre 11 godina

Mr. Reality, 22 September 2012 21:54)
Apparently Mr Reality has not been paying attention to the news stories of his own countries economic situation lately. Serbs should be more focused on survivial than land that has not been under Serbian rule for more than 13 years and no chance of ever being again.
Of course once again Mr Reality is probably not living IN Serbia so "no skin off his back".

One way ticket

pre 11 godina

We struggle on. Its time for this to end and fix the damn economy. We need jobs.
(Bekim_Novi Sad, 23 September 2012 13:37)

If you wouldn't have taken the job of being one of Milosevic's "honest" Albanians you wouldn't be stuck in Novi Sad.

icj1

pre 11 godina

with no chance ever for Kosovo to become a normal state like the other UN members.
(Comm. Parrisson, 23 September 2012 14:12)

Wooow, Serbia citizens would be aghast to learn that Serbia became a normal state only in 1945 and Switzerland citizens would be aghast to learn that they became a normal state in 2002 and Vatican citizens would be aghast to learn that they are not a normal state. And why they are not a normal state ?! Because somebody called Comm. Parrisson has so ruled LOL

truthiness

pre 11 godina

"the pessimist complains about the wind,
the optimist thinks it will change,
while the realist adjusts the sails and moves forward."

Seems reality has finally begun to appeal to certain Serbian politicians. Hopefully their Kosovo counterparts will take note and also adjust their positions.

Sam Xheferi

pre 11 godina

Serbs and Albanians both nkow Partition is only solution but the problem is , its not just Kosovo that gets partitioned.

North Kosovo to Serbia
SouthWest Serbia to Kosovo
Western Macedonia and 25% of Skopije to Kosovo.
Sandzak to Bosnia
SRB republik to Serbia
Ulcin to Albania
Southeast Montenegro to Kosovo

When all this happens then Partition is OK..