"Kosovo is EU's number one condition"

Well, that statement by Vucic appears to suggest more concessions on the Kosovo policy, as EU membership seems to be more important to him.

One really must pinch oneself sometimes, this was the great young hope from the Serb Radical Party, who often adopted a hard line on Kosovo. Even knowing how politicians prostitute themselves I didn't expect such a huge change.

Politicians are weasels. Why can't they be honest with the people that elected them? Sad!

You can only go so far with half truths and trying to weasel out of something. Even Fox's get caught with their cunning skills. Be straight forward with the people. This is what they expect and this is what we have to deliver and this is how we will deliver but don't put spin to it to now make it sound its for security reasons (which is not baseless). People deserve the truth and if you can't handle it tell them this is what are options are. Then ask the people if they want to move forward with them.

10 years of hearing mixed signals from politicians when the negotiators knew what was expected of them. People want stability so give it to them. Not wish lists.

This is not fantasy nations but real people and real issues that ppl face on a daily basis. Jobs being the biggest issue and how to support ones family. Shame on both sides for not living up to their promises to better society and ppl's needs.

Dačić said that the government "had to implement all the agreements its predecessors had reached, regardless of whether someone likes them or not or whether some of the parties in the ruling coalition did not support them".

"This applies to the border management agreement initialed by Stefanović. The government must consider how to protect national and state interests under new conditions, as Serbia moves forward in the EU integration process," he said.

In parliament on Thursday, Aleksandar Vučić said that Stefanović had initialed all pages of the agreement, "which has come under heavy criticism in the Serbian public", Tanjug is reporting.

Stefanović said that his initials were not legally equal to a signature, and were there "only confirm the authenticity of the preceding text".

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So political leaders continue giving away Kosovo, blaiming each other for it...

Dacic: Partition of Kosovo only solution

That is what Dacic the prime minister said for "Pink". He also means partition of Serbia. He knows that Albanians in Presevo will not keep quiet if N.Kosovo splits but also Hungarians in Vojvodina and Bosnians in Sandzjak might want to split too.

"Kosovo is EU's number one condition"

Cmon do it Mr. Vucic.Referendum. Get rid of the responsibility and ask the serbs how they can chose NOTHING. Eu or Kosovo? None of them depends on serb's vote.

"Kosovo is EU's number one condition"

Seriously what else was going to be ? your state should better define the borders before entering EU which you desperately need judging by imminent collapse of serbian economy

"and how we will solve it, especially in northern Kosovo"
So, Serbia prepare for partition of Kosovo - disaster for 1389 dreamers at B92 forum.
Or: Serbian side say "yes" to partition.
But: Serbian "yes" mean "no"?

In parliament on Thursday, Aleksandar Vučić said that Stefanović had initialed all pages of the agreement, "which has come under heavy criticism in the Serbian public",

the comedy is at its peak. everybody is spitting on Stefanovic but finishing what he started anyway.

Because they have no other excuse.

What would you expect from a corrupt society lead by corrupt politicians on all sides? Wonder why no one has submitted the agreements to the constitutional court for a decision on whether or not they violate the constitution? Pass the buck. If this government moves forward w the agreements despite their professed disagreement with them, they should be held responsible. The agreements are not a fair accompli just because the former minister signed them. I do not take issue w the boundary agreement because I did not read it in detail. What I take issue with is thy no Serb official will take responsibility for their actions.

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Still I don't understand why cannot EU admit central Serbia and Kosovo* all at once and don't concentrate on the status of central Serbia - Kosovo* border.

I believe EU doesn't want to do it because of its (mostly German) stubbornness, arrorance and stupidity. Do you have other expainations?

Where is Ari Gold and his Army when we need them ????

As a Kosovar, I still don't understand what changed between recent regimes.



Sincerely,

Independence for Sandzak is necessary for Balkan stability.
Serbia can not join EU when all non Serbians want to leave Serbia.
Partition of Serbia necessary before EU talks.

Mark

Getting scared "Mark". Kosovo is on the agenda. Not Presevo, Sandzak or Northern Epirus in South Albania. Where would Sandzak go? To Bosnia? Certainly not Kosovo. Kosovo is already partitioned. Presevo and other areas are not. Besides, why don't you use your real albanian name?

US/EU are trying to partition Serbia

the comedy is at its peak. everybody is spitting on Stefanovic but finishing what he started anyway.
(Reader, 21 September 2012 23:02
The real kicker is that the people really buy into the rhetoric that these 2 low level govt people from Serbia and Kosovo actually made these decisions. These could have been cardboard cut outs for the photosessions and it would not have changed a thing. All decisions to agree or disagree were made in Belgrade and Pristina and both govts were fully aware of what was and was not agreed to.
Also I thought that it was said from day one that Serbia would sign nothing that these were to be verbal agreements only.
So to blame Stefanovic is ludicrous as is the "it was agreed to by the previous govt so we will implement it".

Dacic said the partition of Kosova is the only solution. Well, I must say (although I dont like it) that this is realistic and also true. N-Kosovo is an area the institutions of Kosovo do not have any authority and having it wihtin Ks would only mean trouble, so what is the point of insisting. In this scenario, both sides would give up something they don't have: Serbia will give up Kosovo, on which Serbia has zero influence and authority and Kosovo would give up N-Ks on which Ks has zero authority. But the positive side of this move, is that everybody moves forward.

Independence for Sandzak is necessary for Balkan stability.
Serbia can not join EU when all non Serbians want to leave Serbia.
Partition of Serbia necessary before EU talks.
(Adem, 22 September 2012 09:02)

Don't worry, Americans, EU and Albanians are already trying to partition Serbia by taking Kosovo away from it.

This Serbian government is foolish to want to get into the EU, and Serbia has mainly hurt itself implementing EU-dictates so far.
Around half the population doesn't even want to get into the EU, so why should the government be so gung-ho about it? Has it even analyzed the repercussions to Serbian agriculture?
Are Romania and Bulgaria thriving in the EU?
Why not at least put it off a few years - see how the EU does in the next 5 years or so?

Get rid of the responsibility and ask the serbs how they can chose NOTHING. Eu or Kosovo? None of them depends on serb's vote.
(Mark, 21 September 2012 22:48)

Actually referendum question goes like that: do you agree to dismantle Serbian institutions in the north in the sake of increasing a little bit a probability of admition to the EU sometimes in the future?

Let me try to say it again:
Legally speaking, neither Tadic nor (even less)Stefanovic had the power to decide on anything, concerning Serbian foreign or internal politics.

If they did so, in despite of this fact, which should be clearly established by the constitutional court, they should be held accountable for their acts.

Which, the case being, would, in no way, constitute any liability for Serbia concerning those agreements which have been signed by non-authorized persons who DO NOT represent Serbia on this issue!

Don't worry, Americans, EU and Albanians are already trying to partition Serbia by taking Kosovo away from it.
(aaayyy, 22 September 2012 12:24)

Indeed, they achieved it 13 years ago with UNSCR 1244 which, is Serbia's words, is one of the darkest pages of UNSC's history, being instrumental in the de facto dismemberment of a sovereign European State.

Still I don't understand why cannot EU admit central Serbia and Kosovo* all at once and don't concentrate on the status of central Serbia - Kosovo* border.

I believe EU doesn't want to do it because of its (mostly German) stubbornness, arrorance and stupidity. Do you have other expainations?

"and how we will solve it, especially in northern Kosovo"
So, Serbia prepare for partition of Kosovo - disaster for 1389 dreamers at B92 forum.
Or: Serbian side say "yes" to partition.
But: Serbian "yes" mean "no"?

"Kosovo is EU's number one condition"

Seriously what else was going to be ? your state should better define the borders before entering EU which you desperately need judging by imminent collapse of serbian economy

Mark

Getting scared "Mark". Kosovo is on the agenda. Not Presevo, Sandzak or Northern Epirus in South Albania. Where would Sandzak go? To Bosnia? Certainly not Kosovo. Kosovo is already partitioned. Presevo and other areas are not. Besides, why don't you use your real albanian name?

Dacic said the partition of Kosova is the only solution. Well, I must say (although I dont like it) that this is realistic and also true. N-Kosovo is an area the institutions of Kosovo do not have any authority and having it wihtin Ks would only mean trouble, so what is the point of insisting. In this scenario, both sides would give up something they don't have: Serbia will give up Kosovo, on which Serbia has zero influence and authority and Kosovo would give up N-Ks on which Ks has zero authority. But the positive side of this move, is that everybody moves forward.

Dačić said that the government "had to implement all the agreements its predecessors had reached, regardless of whether someone likes them or not or whether some of the parties in the ruling coalition did not support them".

"This applies to the border management agreement initialed by Stefanović. The government must consider how to protect national and state interests under new conditions, as Serbia moves forward in the EU integration process," he said.

In parliament on Thursday, Aleksandar Vučić said that Stefanović had initialed all pages of the agreement, "which has come under heavy criticism in the Serbian public", Tanjug is reporting.

Stefanović said that his initials were not legally equal to a signature, and were there "only confirm the authenticity of the preceding text".

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So political leaders continue giving away Kosovo, blaiming each other for it...

Independence for Sandzak is necessary for Balkan stability.
Serbia can not join EU when all non Serbians want to leave Serbia.
Partition of Serbia necessary before EU talks.
(Adem, 22 September 2012 09:02)

Don't worry, Americans, EU and Albanians are already trying to partition Serbia by taking Kosovo away from it.

This Serbian government is foolish to want to get into the EU, and Serbia has mainly hurt itself implementing EU-dictates so far.
Around half the population doesn't even want to get into the EU, so why should the government be so gung-ho about it? Has it even analyzed the repercussions to Serbian agriculture?
Are Romania and Bulgaria thriving in the EU?
Why not at least put it off a few years - see how the EU does in the next 5 years or so?

Well, that statement by Vucic appears to suggest more concessions on the Kosovo policy, as EU membership seems to be more important to him.

One really must pinch oneself sometimes, this was the great young hope from the Serb Radical Party, who often adopted a hard line on Kosovo. Even knowing how politicians prostitute themselves I didn't expect such a huge change.

What would you expect from a corrupt society lead by corrupt politicians on all sides? Wonder why no one has submitted the agreements to the constitutional court for a decision on whether or not they violate the constitution? Pass the buck. If this government moves forward w the agreements despite their professed disagreement with them, they should be held responsible. The agreements are not a fair accompli just because the former minister signed them. I do not take issue w the boundary agreement because I did not read it in detail. What I take issue with is thy no Serb official will take responsibility for their actions.

I

Get rid of the responsibility and ask the serbs how they can chose NOTHING. Eu or Kosovo? None of them depends on serb's vote.
(Mark, 21 September 2012 22:48)

Actually referendum question goes like that: do you agree to dismantle Serbian institutions in the north in the sake of increasing a little bit a probability of admition to the EU sometimes in the future?

Independence for Sandzak is necessary for Balkan stability.
Serbia can not join EU when all non Serbians want to leave Serbia.
Partition of Serbia necessary before EU talks.

Because they have no other excuse.

Dacic: Partition of Kosovo only solution

That is what Dacic the prime minister said for "Pink". He also means partition of Serbia. He knows that Albanians in Presevo will not keep quiet if N.Kosovo splits but also Hungarians in Vojvodina and Bosnians in Sandzjak might want to split too.

US/EU are trying to partition Serbia

Where is Ari Gold and his Army when we need them ????

As a Kosovar, I still don't understand what changed between recent regimes.



Sincerely,

the comedy is at its peak. everybody is spitting on Stefanovic but finishing what he started anyway.
(Reader, 21 September 2012 23:02
The real kicker is that the people really buy into the rhetoric that these 2 low level govt people from Serbia and Kosovo actually made these decisions. These could have been cardboard cut outs for the photosessions and it would not have changed a thing. All decisions to agree or disagree were made in Belgrade and Pristina and both govts were fully aware of what was and was not agreed to.
Also I thought that it was said from day one that Serbia would sign nothing that these were to be verbal agreements only.
So to blame Stefanovic is ludicrous as is the "it was agreed to by the previous govt so we will implement it".

"Kosovo is EU's number one condition"

Cmon do it Mr. Vucic.Referendum. Get rid of the responsibility and ask the serbs how they can chose NOTHING. Eu or Kosovo? None of them depends on serb's vote.

Don't worry, Americans, EU and Albanians are already trying to partition Serbia by taking Kosovo away from it.
(aaayyy, 22 September 2012 12:24)

Indeed, they achieved it 13 years ago with UNSCR 1244 which, is Serbia's words, is one of the darkest pages of UNSC's history, being instrumental in the de facto dismemberment of a sovereign European State.

Politicians are weasels. Why can't they be honest with the people that elected them? Sad!

You can only go so far with half truths and trying to weasel out of something. Even Fox's get caught with their cunning skills. Be straight forward with the people. This is what they expect and this is what we have to deliver and this is how we will deliver but don't put spin to it to now make it sound its for security reasons (which is not baseless). People deserve the truth and if you can't handle it tell them this is what are options are. Then ask the people if they want to move forward with them.

10 years of hearing mixed signals from politicians when the negotiators knew what was expected of them. People want stability so give it to them. Not wish lists.

This is not fantasy nations but real people and real issues that ppl face on a daily basis. Jobs being the biggest issue and how to support ones family. Shame on both sides for not living up to their promises to better society and ppl's needs.

In parliament on Thursday, Aleksandar Vučić said that Stefanović had initialed all pages of the agreement, "which has come under heavy criticism in the Serbian public",

the comedy is at its peak. everybody is spitting on Stefanovic but finishing what he started anyway.

Let me try to say it again:
Legally speaking, neither Tadic nor (even less)Stefanovic had the power to decide on anything, concerning Serbian foreign or internal politics.

If they did so, in despite of this fact, which should be clearly established by the constitutional court, they should be held accountable for their acts.

Which, the case being, would, in no way, constitute any liability for Serbia concerning those agreements which have been signed by non-authorized persons who DO NOT represent Serbia on this issue!