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Friday, 21.10.2011.

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“Serbs should be persuaded to remove barricades”

Head of the EU Delegation to Serbia Vincent Degert has rejected a possibility that northern Kosovo Serbs’ requests will be discussed.

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balkanbert

pre 14 godina

... the deployment of Kosovo Customs at the crossing between Serbia and Kosovo to collect customs' taxes as decided by UNMIK in August of 1999. How can resistance against a UNMIK decision be legitimate ?!
(icj1, 22 October 2011 02:32)

I do not want to enter a a philosophical debate about legality and legitimacy. Anyway, to implement the decision in question Pristina and Belgrade need to sit at the negotiation table and find to an agreement how to do it. The regime in Pristina departed from its obligation to find common grounds and provoked trouble. Therefore all involved have to return to the status ante and take up negotiations again. As long as they negotiate, EULEX has to run the show at the checkpoints - if necessary supported by KFOR. Do I have to quote Obama´s statement in terms of how in general (!) to settle disputes when he addressed Palestinians and Israelis recently? Do not bring up that UN WSCR 1244 is not applicable for the latter dispute - he explicitly mentioned that his statement would apply in the most general sense.
Always a pleasure hearing from U ;-)) !

trizo

pre 14 godina

icj, you are the tool. Anyone in Serbia or Kosovo has the right to an opinion on Kosovo's status & border controls.

In case you didn't realise, we have only been the biggest occupiers of Kosovo since it was born.

Maybe Kosovo has its own map with its own border lines in your home, but in ours Kosovo is an integral part of Serbia that has been half-robbed.

Typical Kalb comment.. short sighted with no validity or substance.

It's all well and good for you and your compatriots to have such a strong opinion on the future of KosovA bla bla but in reality KosovA is a stillborn and you have no past historical evidence to give any validity to your claims of certainty about the future of Kosovo.

You're a joker.

icj1

pre 14 godina

It is legitimate that people in North Kosovo put up restistance against the deployment of officials loyal to Thaci and his accomplices. (balkanbert, 21 October 2011 17:44)

You are correct, but here we are speaking about something else; the deployment of Kosovo Customs at the crossing between Serbia and Kosovo to collect customs' taxes as decided by UNMIK in August of 1999. How can resistance against a UNMIK decision be legitimate ?!

icj1

pre 14 godina

I live in Serbia not in the US or western europe.
(BeliOraoSrbija, 21 October 2011 12:45)

Good, than I think that you should STFU! since when is Kosovo your land to decide who goes and who stays?. \

Yes I know its the barricades you wish erect to cut off K. Serbs from Serbia, but you might as well just tell the KiM serbs to leave their own land while your are at it.

If you suggested that the illegal squatters (of all ethnicities) who live in Kosovo i Metohija should just leave, you would be dead within a week killed by the narco mafia

Come to think of it you are a tool anyway.

I encourge all serbs & our supporters to stop arguing with you , its a complete waste of time and really isnt worth the energy to argue with people who think they have more rights than anyone else.

balkanbert

pre 14 godina

Mr. Degert, Mr. Degert - The EU and its mission EULEX (or was it EU-HOAX?)should become aware that they are backing the wrong horse:

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2011&mm=10&dd=21&nav_id=76970
It is legitimate that people in North Kosovo put up restistance against the deployment of officials loyal to Thaci and his accomplices. If you, in accordance with international standards for civil and human rights, balance the legally protected rights of people worried about their well-being and finally their lives on one hand and limitations of freedom of movement by legitimate protests, the latter is of minor relevance - isn´t such legal interpretation agreed between all nations of law, Mr.Degert? Your educational background should provide for awareness of such a self-evidence.

Steve B.

pre 14 godina

I am still trying to figure out what gives these countries (US, UK, Germany, France, etc) the right to go around the world and try taking control of other countries. Like honestly, who do they think they are. They talk humanitarian this and humanitarian that but they commit more brutal crimes than most countries in the world. It's so abusive it's sickening.

trizo

pre 14 godina

Yes BeliOrao, he should STFU.

The only people who have the right to say anything are the people who have lived on the lands with their history on the lands and that is not the Albanians or Germans or FRENCH or UK or US.. they can all STFU

BeliOraoSrbija

pre 14 godina

I think that this guy should STFU! since when is it HIS land to decide who goes and who stays?. \
Yes I know its the barricades he wishes to have taken down, but he might as well just tell the KiM serbs to leave their own land while he is at it.

If he suggested that the illegal squatters ( Albanians ) who live in Kosovo i Metohija should just leave, he would be dead within a week killed by the narco mafia who terrorizes that Serbian province

Come to think of it he is a tool anyway.

I encourge all serbs & our supporters to stop arguing with these morons , its a complete waste of time and really isnt worth the energy to argue with people who think they have more rights than anyone else.

I live in Serbia not in the US or western europe.

Javier (Madrid, Spain)

pre 14 godina

And why not the Kosovo-Serbs migrate to Southern Serbia, to the valleys inhabited by Albanians, and Serb-Albanians are obliged to leave Serbia to Kosovo, the same way the Kosovo government makes efforts to cleanse Kosovo of Serbs?

If not interchange of land because the Empire (USA and Germany especially) don´t want, why not interchange of the people who live in that land?

If "the Empire" supports the actions of the Kosovo government to cleanse Kosovo, I suppose it could say nothing if the Serbs do the same in Serbia.

BeliOraoSrbija

pre 14 godina

I think that this guy should STFU! since when is it HIS land to decide who goes and who stays?. \
Yes I know its the barricades he wishes to have taken down, but he might as well just tell the KiM serbs to leave their own land while he is at it.

If he suggested that the illegal squatters ( Albanians ) who live in Kosovo i Metohija should just leave, he would be dead within a week killed by the narco mafia who terrorizes that Serbian province

Come to think of it he is a tool anyway.

I encourge all serbs & our supporters to stop arguing with these morons , its a complete waste of time and really isnt worth the energy to argue with people who think they have more rights than anyone else.

I live in Serbia not in the US or western europe.

Steve B.

pre 14 godina

I am still trying to figure out what gives these countries (US, UK, Germany, France, etc) the right to go around the world and try taking control of other countries. Like honestly, who do they think they are. They talk humanitarian this and humanitarian that but they commit more brutal crimes than most countries in the world. It's so abusive it's sickening.

Javier (Madrid, Spain)

pre 14 godina

And why not the Kosovo-Serbs migrate to Southern Serbia, to the valleys inhabited by Albanians, and Serb-Albanians are obliged to leave Serbia to Kosovo, the same way the Kosovo government makes efforts to cleanse Kosovo of Serbs?

If not interchange of land because the Empire (USA and Germany especially) don´t want, why not interchange of the people who live in that land?

If "the Empire" supports the actions of the Kosovo government to cleanse Kosovo, I suppose it could say nothing if the Serbs do the same in Serbia.

trizo

pre 14 godina

Yes BeliOrao, he should STFU.

The only people who have the right to say anything are the people who have lived on the lands with their history on the lands and that is not the Albanians or Germans or FRENCH or UK or US.. they can all STFU

balkanbert

pre 14 godina

Mr. Degert, Mr. Degert - The EU and its mission EULEX (or was it EU-HOAX?)should become aware that they are backing the wrong horse:

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2011&mm=10&dd=21&nav_id=76970
It is legitimate that people in North Kosovo put up restistance against the deployment of officials loyal to Thaci and his accomplices. If you, in accordance with international standards for civil and human rights, balance the legally protected rights of people worried about their well-being and finally their lives on one hand and limitations of freedom of movement by legitimate protests, the latter is of minor relevance - isn´t such legal interpretation agreed between all nations of law, Mr.Degert? Your educational background should provide for awareness of such a self-evidence.

trizo

pre 14 godina

icj, you are the tool. Anyone in Serbia or Kosovo has the right to an opinion on Kosovo's status & border controls.

In case you didn't realise, we have only been the biggest occupiers of Kosovo since it was born.

Maybe Kosovo has its own map with its own border lines in your home, but in ours Kosovo is an integral part of Serbia that has been half-robbed.

Typical Kalb comment.. short sighted with no validity or substance.

It's all well and good for you and your compatriots to have such a strong opinion on the future of KosovA bla bla but in reality KosovA is a stillborn and you have no past historical evidence to give any validity to your claims of certainty about the future of Kosovo.

You're a joker.

icj1

pre 14 godina

I live in Serbia not in the US or western europe.
(BeliOraoSrbija, 21 October 2011 12:45)

Good, than I think that you should STFU! since when is Kosovo your land to decide who goes and who stays?. \

Yes I know its the barricades you wish erect to cut off K. Serbs from Serbia, but you might as well just tell the KiM serbs to leave their own land while your are at it.

If you suggested that the illegal squatters (of all ethnicities) who live in Kosovo i Metohija should just leave, you would be dead within a week killed by the narco mafia

Come to think of it you are a tool anyway.

I encourge all serbs & our supporters to stop arguing with you , its a complete waste of time and really isnt worth the energy to argue with people who think they have more rights than anyone else.

icj1

pre 14 godina

It is legitimate that people in North Kosovo put up restistance against the deployment of officials loyal to Thaci and his accomplices. (balkanbert, 21 October 2011 17:44)

You are correct, but here we are speaking about something else; the deployment of Kosovo Customs at the crossing between Serbia and Kosovo to collect customs' taxes as decided by UNMIK in August of 1999. How can resistance against a UNMIK decision be legitimate ?!

balkanbert

pre 14 godina

... the deployment of Kosovo Customs at the crossing between Serbia and Kosovo to collect customs' taxes as decided by UNMIK in August of 1999. How can resistance against a UNMIK decision be legitimate ?!
(icj1, 22 October 2011 02:32)

I do not want to enter a a philosophical debate about legality and legitimacy. Anyway, to implement the decision in question Pristina and Belgrade need to sit at the negotiation table and find to an agreement how to do it. The regime in Pristina departed from its obligation to find common grounds and provoked trouble. Therefore all involved have to return to the status ante and take up negotiations again. As long as they negotiate, EULEX has to run the show at the checkpoints - if necessary supported by KFOR. Do I have to quote Obama´s statement in terms of how in general (!) to settle disputes when he addressed Palestinians and Israelis recently? Do not bring up that UN WSCR 1244 is not applicable for the latter dispute - he explicitly mentioned that his statement would apply in the most general sense.
Always a pleasure hearing from U ;-)) !

Javier (Madrid, Spain)

pre 14 godina

And why not the Kosovo-Serbs migrate to Southern Serbia, to the valleys inhabited by Albanians, and Serb-Albanians are obliged to leave Serbia to Kosovo, the same way the Kosovo government makes efforts to cleanse Kosovo of Serbs?

If not interchange of land because the Empire (USA and Germany especially) don´t want, why not interchange of the people who live in that land?

If "the Empire" supports the actions of the Kosovo government to cleanse Kosovo, I suppose it could say nothing if the Serbs do the same in Serbia.

BeliOraoSrbija

pre 14 godina

I think that this guy should STFU! since when is it HIS land to decide who goes and who stays?. \
Yes I know its the barricades he wishes to have taken down, but he might as well just tell the KiM serbs to leave their own land while he is at it.

If he suggested that the illegal squatters ( Albanians ) who live in Kosovo i Metohija should just leave, he would be dead within a week killed by the narco mafia who terrorizes that Serbian province

Come to think of it he is a tool anyway.

I encourge all serbs & our supporters to stop arguing with these morons , its a complete waste of time and really isnt worth the energy to argue with people who think they have more rights than anyone else.

I live in Serbia not in the US or western europe.

icj1

pre 14 godina

I live in Serbia not in the US or western europe.
(BeliOraoSrbija, 21 October 2011 12:45)

Good, than I think that you should STFU! since when is Kosovo your land to decide who goes and who stays?. \

Yes I know its the barricades you wish erect to cut off K. Serbs from Serbia, but you might as well just tell the KiM serbs to leave their own land while your are at it.

If you suggested that the illegal squatters (of all ethnicities) who live in Kosovo i Metohija should just leave, you would be dead within a week killed by the narco mafia

Come to think of it you are a tool anyway.

I encourge all serbs & our supporters to stop arguing with you , its a complete waste of time and really isnt worth the energy to argue with people who think they have more rights than anyone else.

icj1

pre 14 godina

It is legitimate that people in North Kosovo put up restistance against the deployment of officials loyal to Thaci and his accomplices. (balkanbert, 21 October 2011 17:44)

You are correct, but here we are speaking about something else; the deployment of Kosovo Customs at the crossing between Serbia and Kosovo to collect customs' taxes as decided by UNMIK in August of 1999. How can resistance against a UNMIK decision be legitimate ?!

trizo

pre 14 godina

Yes BeliOrao, he should STFU.

The only people who have the right to say anything are the people who have lived on the lands with their history on the lands and that is not the Albanians or Germans or FRENCH or UK or US.. they can all STFU

Steve B.

pre 14 godina

I am still trying to figure out what gives these countries (US, UK, Germany, France, etc) the right to go around the world and try taking control of other countries. Like honestly, who do they think they are. They talk humanitarian this and humanitarian that but they commit more brutal crimes than most countries in the world. It's so abusive it's sickening.

balkanbert

pre 14 godina

Mr. Degert, Mr. Degert - The EU and its mission EULEX (or was it EU-HOAX?)should become aware that they are backing the wrong horse:

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2011&mm=10&dd=21&nav_id=76970
It is legitimate that people in North Kosovo put up restistance against the deployment of officials loyal to Thaci and his accomplices. If you, in accordance with international standards for civil and human rights, balance the legally protected rights of people worried about their well-being and finally their lives on one hand and limitations of freedom of movement by legitimate protests, the latter is of minor relevance - isn´t such legal interpretation agreed between all nations of law, Mr.Degert? Your educational background should provide for awareness of such a self-evidence.

trizo

pre 14 godina

icj, you are the tool. Anyone in Serbia or Kosovo has the right to an opinion on Kosovo's status & border controls.

In case you didn't realise, we have only been the biggest occupiers of Kosovo since it was born.

Maybe Kosovo has its own map with its own border lines in your home, but in ours Kosovo is an integral part of Serbia that has been half-robbed.

Typical Kalb comment.. short sighted with no validity or substance.

It's all well and good for you and your compatriots to have such a strong opinion on the future of KosovA bla bla but in reality KosovA is a stillborn and you have no past historical evidence to give any validity to your claims of certainty about the future of Kosovo.

You're a joker.

balkanbert

pre 14 godina

... the deployment of Kosovo Customs at the crossing between Serbia and Kosovo to collect customs' taxes as decided by UNMIK in August of 1999. How can resistance against a UNMIK decision be legitimate ?!
(icj1, 22 October 2011 02:32)

I do not want to enter a a philosophical debate about legality and legitimacy. Anyway, to implement the decision in question Pristina and Belgrade need to sit at the negotiation table and find to an agreement how to do it. The regime in Pristina departed from its obligation to find common grounds and provoked trouble. Therefore all involved have to return to the status ante and take up negotiations again. As long as they negotiate, EULEX has to run the show at the checkpoints - if necessary supported by KFOR. Do I have to quote Obama´s statement in terms of how in general (!) to settle disputes when he addressed Palestinians and Israelis recently? Do not bring up that UN WSCR 1244 is not applicable for the latter dispute - he explicitly mentioned that his statement would apply in the most general sense.
Always a pleasure hearing from U ;-)) !