Priština: Malawi recognizes Kosovo

"Kosovo's ethnic Albanians in February 2008 unilaterally proclaimed independence"

No, everyone but the Serbs did.

The Malawi thing was done on purpose by USA, the same day Jeremic met with Clinton. Malawi by the way is a democracy.

Slap for Jeremic an his african tour. Can you guess where the next recognition will comme from???? Step up and take a guess...

Kosovo is on her way to be a UN member soon

"Serbs will one day take back what is legaly theirs and deal with the occupiers swiftly. "

Sure. And the germans will "one day" take back Kaliningrad. Reality is a little bit different.

Well here we go again more countrys is recognizing and there is more to come. If it continues like this in a period of 5 years Kosovo will have a UN-seat. At least our independence is safe and recognition comes but Serbia has no chance in gaining control over Kosovo and will never have. One day when we get over 100 recognition Serbia will not even dare to dream about occupying Kosovo once more. Not as long as KP(Kosovo police) KSF( Kosovo security forces) and the goverment in Prishtina exist.

Congratulations to pro -independence Kosovar-Albanians for receiving recognition from Malawi.

Why this news is posted so late. Recognition came at the same time as Jeremic was talking to US Sec of State.

Is B92 under the threat of Jeremic&Co or what?
- It would be no suprise to anyone, including serbian intellectual class, since serbia is controlled by Russian and Serbia Mafia.

Great, great, great...what else one can say.

Probably (again) they didn't know that they have to wait for ICJ ruling.

We thank Jeremic for his contribution at the ICJ hearing, because it majority of the countries that participated promoted Kosova as a country that fully deserved independence, is stable, secure democratic and respects minority rights.

Great News. I am sure that some Serbs realise that sooner this is done and dealt with, they will have a better future.

Thank you Malawi. African nations more than anyone else understand the struggle that our people had to endure.
The timing of this recognition has convinced me that Serbia and her powerful allies are in for a slow and painful period ahead.

The Malawi thing was done on purpose by USA, the same day Jeremic met with Clinton. Malawi by the way is a democracy.
(aRta, 17 December 2009 10:24)

So is India, South Africa, Indonesia, Venezuela, Brazil, Spain et al.

it is you albanians who are occupying our Holy Land! Kosmet is not yours nor will it ever be.
(Ratko, 17 December 2009 13:14)


First of all the land is not Holy. Second you can visit your churches and graves anytime you want as long as you follow the rules of Kosova.


The land is ours and if the churches is yours then move them because they are on my Land.

So in the last 48 hours, two peripheral countries recognized the independence of two peripheral parastates, which was followed up in the comment section here by people somehow praising one while ridiculing the other depending on their nationalistic leaning.

I have only one major concern:

Why was South Ossetia left out?? What did they ever do to be neglected? Oh please won't someone think of the South Ossetians? Especially the South Ossetian children?

"[blah blah blah waaa waa waaa] since serbia is controlled by Russian and Serbia Mafia." (Olf)

-- Hahahaha, dude you're really losing it. Thank God I swallowed my coffee before reading your comment. Thanks for the morning pick-me-up :))

demi:

it is you albanians who are occupying our Holy Land! Kosmet is not yours nor will it ever be.

Malawi! I'm impressed! I guess its time for Serbia to throw in the towel. As long as Serbia doesn't recognize the illegal occupation of Kosovo, Serbs will one day take back what is legaly theirs and deal with the occupiers swiftly.

Even if America manages to pay off another 50 countries it won't change the fact that K-Serbs will never join the Pristina rebell institutions and Serbia will never recognize this Frankenstein creation.

Well, after scouring the internet for news articles I managed to find four of them this time and two of them related to B92, so that is one more than New Zealand where three (Albanian) outlets reported it.

One article mentioned "Kosovan Foreign Minister Skender Hyseni has announced he was notified orally that the Republic of Malawi recognized Kosovo on December 14, Serbian B92 radio reports"

Kosovo gets another recognition and this actually makes me laugh. Ataman couldn't be closer to the truth when he described the tribal mentality yesterday as follows:
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- Big, white massa come yesterday. Massa telling all: "say Kosova, me giving you a transistor radio!" We saying "Kosova", we got new radio!!!

- Eh, you being silly. Today even richer Massa come and tell all: "say Ossetia, me giving you plastic bags and ten bottles of fire water. We saying "Ossetia", now we all have a transistor radio, plastic shopping bags and we are in very happy mood after drinking that fire water. These big white Massa are crazy: they give us so many goodies for nothing!"
(Ataman, 16 December 2009 21:37)
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I wonder how much firewater it will take to get these tribes to call Jeremic and say "Kosovo is Serbia!"? This whole recognition effort is getting funnier by the day as I'm sure the comments will also.

Cheers my friends! :)

"Why this news is posted so late. Recognition came at the same time as Jeremic was talking to US Sec of State.
Is B92 under the threat of Jeremic&Co or what?" (Olf)

-- Actually my dear Olf, B92 posted this yesterday on its Serbian part:

"Republika Malavi priznala Kosovo
16. decembar 2009."

So no need to call INTERPOL for some sinister Slavic Orthodox agent of the Kremlin failing to report the wonderful wonderful news. I thought that for someone who was some big worker in Kosovo, and who claimed to have had the trust and respect of many Kosovo Serbs, you'd be able to read Serbo-Croatian, or at the very least pick this lil bit of info up on the Serbian site? Methinks you're a little too excited. Give the good people at B92 time to post their articles.

Isn't it strange that poor countries which want US help suddenly recognize Kosovo?

Yep, same with Nauru recognizing Abkhazia (Russian loan).

Is this international law?

@UNE and Demi. Are you not getting tired of your own, constantly, repeated writings about Kosovo becoming a UN member? When will it come to your brains one day that no membership is agreed on if China and Russia will block it? You can have 155 recognitions but as long as those two powers say no, it will be no. I hope that you now finally will understand it otherwise I would advise you to read the UN acceptance rules.
Then to Malawi, a democracy for sure, multi-party democracy but one of the most poorest countries of the world with a life expectancy of around 40 years old. So, not much to expect from when it comes to help. When will they open an embassy in Pristina I wonder.

When will they open an embassy in Pristina I wonder.
(Frans, 17 December 2009 12:30)
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Exactly Frans, recognitions come cheap these days, especially since they hardly get reported.

It's an oral recognition after all, I mean how much weight does that really carry? This whole recognition process is being built like a house of cards and one day the whole thing will just collapse. The foundations are already wobbling!

Kosovo's ethnic Albanians in February 2008 unilaterally proclaimed independence. 22 out of 27 EU member countries recognized the declaration, as did the United States, but Russia opposes it.
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Something else interesting that I noticed, the above statement being reported by B92 demonstrates that it is Western controlled. This type of justification is read frequently in the Western press.

For a Serbian controlled outlet, I would expect something along the lines of:

Kosovo's ethnic Albanians in February 2008 unilaterally proclaimed independence. 130 out of 192 UN members have not recognised the declaration, including Russia and China, but the US supports it.

MikeC
The reason why Serbia should lose Kosovo is not high birth rate of albanians. It should lose Kosovo because it has abused that population that has considered its own. Deportation of over 900 thousand of people sponsored by state institutions is the reason why Serbia has forefighted any claim to Kosovo.

So if Kosovo may break from Serbia why Abkhazia not from Georgia?

I really do not see the difference regarding international law!

By the way: Tibet? Taiwan? Kurdistan?
(Ron, 17 December 2009 20:53)

You can't possibly compare Kosovo with Abkhazia. Kosovo has over 2 million people (95% non serb) and a very good reason to be independent, while Abkhazia has just over 100 thousand and the only reason is to join another country (Russia) and create tensions in the region. Kosovo has been in fact independent from Serbia since 1999, and the democracy here is functioning much better than the one in Serbia or Russia.

Zoran,

your absolutely right on the pro-western slant that B92 choose to use. It does strike me as odd that a apparently (proudly) independent Serbian media outlet does not naturally state it the way you have. I'd add India and Brazil to the list of Russia and China who as the BRIC nations will see the forging of a multilateral non western dominated century ahead of us.

The west is so piled down by debt which will leave it languishing for years to come - just read of the UK having to make cut backs in airforces and rest of military just to scrap together enough cash for some more helicopters for Afghanistan - also NATO went cap in hand to Russia for helicopter assistance. Wont be long before big white Manna has nothing left to keep these few recognitions that they have arm twisted and bribed for.

Oh what a tangled web we weave....

Jeremic is so anxious to please the USA that he leaves himself wide open for this latest embarrassment. Let this be a lesson to all sycophants.

Thank you, Malawi.

(CG, 17 December 2009 21:46)

Well not fully true. Thanks to the Lisbon Treaty, Kosovo cannot be blocked, it requires majority votes, not just one "no". Also if Kosovo gets 50% recognition in the UN it can become a UN observer (Russia and China cannot veto this), which is a big stepping stone towards full membership. Kosovo is an unstoppable reality mate.

This recognition isn't ground breaking and I know that Malawi and Kosovo won't have much to do with each other in the future, but regardless I am pleased. Every little helps and it is the numbers what count. It is just another small step of the international community accepting the reality of an independent Kosovo.

At least Malawi wasn't paid $50 million to recognise. Russia is openly offering money for countries to recognise Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Nauru $50million, Ecuador $200million, Belarus $500million and we all know that Venezuela got money, arms and trade deals in return for recognition. Mental!

Frans wrote: You can have 155 recognitions but as long as those two powers say no...

Hey Frans, we heard many "NO-s" before, but they all turned out to be YES.
Another day, another recognition.

Demi, produce the deed to the land in the form of proof of your existance for centuries. Pitching tents while going around looking for food is not ownership of the land.

Also, what churches and cemetaries can Serbs visit when your lot has destroyed most of them.
(Peggy, 17 December 2009 21:10)

Peggy
There is no need for Demi to produce any deed, because from 1913 to 12-Jun-99 serbian military took a good care of those deeds. The newest example of that was the building of Prizren League in Prizren, that was destroyed to the ground by forces from Serbia and the memorials of Ymer Prizreni and Abdyl Frasheri have been found in the field outside the city. The deeds like passports and ID's have been confiscated from people who were forcely driven from their homes. Killings and massacres are not things that are to happen in one "Holy Land". The "deeds" and history rewritten in 1989 and after that are not credible to serve as deeds.

'It's an oral recognition after all, I mean how much weight does that really carry? '

Not an "oral recognition" but a "note verbale" - "An unsigned diplomatic note written in the third person, of the nature of a memorandum but sometimes considered to be more formal" (thanks to google)

'Wont be long before big white Manna has nothing left to keep these few recognitions that they have arm twisted and bribed for.'

"Massa" not Manna - the slaves' name for the "master" on a pre-Civil-War plantation in the U.S. South.

'But I have nothing more to say in the Malawi+Kosovo versus Nauru+Ossetia debate.
(Ataman, 17 December 2009 12:56) '

'I thought ... you'd be able to read Serbo-Croatian, or at the very least pick this lil bit of info up on the Serbian site?'

I was reading the Serbian site yesterday and never saw it - maybe it just didn't rate a headline?

It find it amazing that pro albanian commentators are so busy giving red flags to all pro serb comments. Well, if you guys think that will help you win the argument then by all means, knock yourselves out.

64 and counting. PS to the Serb who said 130 have not recognized...it's actually in the 120s now.

I wonder how much firewater it will take to get these tribes to call Jeremic and say "Kosovo is Serbia!"? This whole recognition effort is getting funnier by the day as I'm sure the comments will also.

Cheers my friends! :)
(Zoran, 17 December 2009 11:06)

Zoran,

The fire water in question was the famous "Stolichnaya". To achieve similar results, you can't just throw in few bottles of average consumer-quality Shliva. You need either consult with the nuns of Grachanica regarding Shliva or bribe some Albanians regarding Skanderbeu.

I am sorry, but these (I mean, Stolichnaya, Grachanica-made Shlivovica or Skandebeu) are serious topics to discuss, not like all this Nauru-Ossetia-Malawi-Kosovo tribal nonsense.

I dare to say, while obviously not in that fancy bottle: what the nuns make out of the grapes is very strong (at least 60-proof), but the quality beats any Italian "Garappa". There is a big Orthodox cross inside of every bottle, some villager in Grachanica puts it inside very tricky way and sells to the monastery ;-)

Otherwise I am going to join any Serbian-Albanian debate any time providing expert views regarding lokum from Takovo of Gornji Milanovac versus llokum of Prizren. But I have nothing more to say in the Malawi+Kosovo versus Nauru+Ossetia debate.

@Ian

The problem is that Kosovo,our serbian southern province, is totally blocked,it cannot join any organizations(EU,NATO,UN) AND that the UN resolution 1244 clearly defines it as part of Serbia.
And after Russias recognition of Abkhazia this fate is sealed forever.
In their imagination,Albanians feel independent,in reality they are living in a prison cell.
And we will keep it that way,count on it!
(CG, 17 December 2009 21:46)

You may be right CG, but one thing you got distorted here. Serbia does not have and will not have any power to block Kosovo on the road to euro-atlantic integrations. Without recognizing Kosovo, Serbia will not be admitted in EU. Visa C to the Schengen countries (for which I congratulate Serbian citizens) does not mean admission in EU. Rather it came after fulfilling some technical conditions. Yet this is not even near the situation of the eighties when you could put the passport in your pocket and travel wherever you want.

A KFOR Soldier's Frustration in Kosovo
http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=2277

The thing that bothers me here is the Albanian Mafia. 75% unemployment and the Mercedes and BMW's are newer than mine...

[A Eulex officer] told me that in Gnjilane even with the 75% unemployment, there is an average of 1500 cash deposits over 10,000 Euros monthly...

What happened with the contractor was this: An Albainian speaking gibberish holding an ID of an American walked up to the main entrance of Camp Bonsteel. The guards at the gate detained him and brought down an interpreter to figure out what was going on. That's when he led the MP's to a body that had been de-organed...

I was talking to a KPS officer with an interpreter who was frustrated with the level of corruption within the Police...

Honestly I don`t understand why everyone is so thrilled about this "recognition".

It is totally irrelevant,like Nauru and Abkhazia.

What counts is that Kosovo is still Serbian territory legally(1244)and that our southern province is blocked everywhere.
They are not going to go away anywhere.
Patience is needed.

Who cares? In 10 years all of the former Yugoslavia will be in the EU and you can travel amongst yourselves and all be a big happy family. Get over it.

i'm confident that 'kosova' will do some major business with malawi and their $312 per capita GDP.

since serbia is controlled by Russian and Serbia Mafia.
(Olf, 17 December 2009 12:12)

Hahahaha! And Kosovo is temporarily controlled by honest politicians and no mafia?

That's why albanians had so many children. To become a majority in Kosovo and western Macedonia and to steal land that was never yours.
Kosovo can be 110% albanian, it will still always be associated with the birth of Serbian culture. As long as there are Serbs that won't change.
(MikeC, 18 December 2009 00:01)

Ok you just accepted the fact that Serbian nation was created in Kosovo (Albanian - Ilyrian land) but were never able to expell all native people (Albanians) from there. Just for your information, Skopje was the capital of Albania about 100 years ago, and half of Macedonia was always populated by Albanians. If you look at the map it just shows all the parts of Albania that were given a 100 years ago to Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Greece and so on by powerful nations, and now they are correcting the problem. But we don't want them back we just wanted Kosovo, and we got it.

First of all the land is not Holy. Second you can visit your churches and graves anytime you want as long as you follow the rules of Kosova.


The land is ours and if the churches is yours then move them because they are on my Land.
(Demi, 17 December 2009 14:50)

Demi, produce the deed to the land in the form of proof of your existance for centuries. Pitching tents while going around looking for food is not ownership of the land.

Also, what churches and cemetaries can Serbs visit when your lot has destroyed most of them.

"Kosovo has over 2 million people (95% non serb) and a very good reason to be independent."
kosovaman

So, Serbia should lose Kosovo because albanians have 10-12 children per family and are now a majority population in Kosovo? So if arabs become a majority population in northern Germany, due to high birth rates, they could demand independence? That's why albanians had so many children. To become a majority in Kosovo and western Macedonia and to steal land that was never yours.
Kosovo can be 110% albanian, it will still always be associated with the birth of Serbian culture. As long as there are Serbs that won't change.

What happened to the Serbian strategy? I thought that bringing the case to the ICJ was supposed to stop all recognitions. Miscalculated?

A KFOR Soldier's Frustration in Kosovo
http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=2277
(Danny, 17 December 2009 18:26)
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Thanks for that link Danny. What an insightful story and if true Kosovo certainly has no future.

@Ian

The problem is that Kosovo,our serbian southern province, is totally blocked,it cannot join any organizations(EU,NATO,UN) AND that the UN resolution 1244 clearly defines it as part of Serbia.
And after Russias recognition of Abkhazia this fate is sealed forever.
In their imagination,Albanians feel independent,in reality they are living in a prison cell.
And we will keep it that way,count on it!

(you forgot this):
this is great news, close to year's end and near enough to the ICJ's decision. it appears that not all countries agree to play by the rules of the (former) colonizer...

thank you for the latest recognition, it is always a wonderful feeling, a way for us to sssstretch out our hard won independence (i'm an honourary albanian kosovar here). there is no way back. but a great deal to move forward, so much to be done. always ways to improve, build real multi-cultural democracy, fight corruption, stop jingoism, bring an end to the mutual fears and suspicions... but certainly that is the case throughout the balkans; it is just that certain others never own up to it.

another day of celebration, my frnds!

roberto
heading east

I have only one major concern:

Why was South Ossetia left out?? What did they ever do to be neglected? Oh please won't someone think of the South Ossetians? Especially the South Ossetian children?

(Mike, 17 December 2009 13:01)

Mike,

Since it's not directly about Malawi - I break my promise and "contribute" once more to this debate of such a big importance.

I already wrote about one possibility: Massa Behgjet mixed up somewhat with the fustanellas and they in Nauru waiting for the shipment what landed up in Malawi by mistake. Good opportunity for ladies to discuss the privy parts of naurian guys because as long as Massa Behgjet does not correct the mistake - they have nothing to cover their butts with.

An other possibility is, they can't call Massa Vladimir because the batteries of the cell phone Massa Behgjet forgot on the island need to be re-charged. The Council of Elders told the President that possible there is a way to make that cell phone work again. So the Chief Shaman is performing the ritual dance which supposed to bring the dead back to this world. Sometimes it helps, so there is a hope that after the dance is performed properly the batteries of the phone will work again - and nothing will prevent Nauru to recognize Ossetia.

Are you satisfied with that explanation?

Like in the old joke.

American, Russian and Chukch compete, who can hold on longer without eating. American guy goes inside the little home made of ice, after several hours picks up the cell phone: "I am hungry!"
Russian guy goes inside - well, Russians used to withstand more discomfort, so it takes twice as long till the cell phone rings.
At last, Chukcha goes inside. One day passes... no call. An other day passes... no call. On the third day people got seriously worried and go inside. They see Chukcha on his knees worshiping the cell phone:
"Dear Telephone, please, please tell everyone: I am really hungry!"

("Телефона-Телефона: Цукца куцать хоцет!")

Frans,
What I'm trying to say is that you're believing too much in Russia. I beleive that Abkasia and osetia will get more recognitions and then we will have a situation of trading those recognitions. US and west europe will recognize those two provinces and Russia will recognize Kosovo. After all its all business right? Its a good business for all, except Georgia and Serbia.

was there still some little tiny island under US-influence left? =)

well, I wouldn´t pay so much attention to these, certainly orchestrated "late" recognition "events"...

there is a pattern visible here, ...they´ve very likely been told to recognise right after the ICJ-debate, in order to create the impression of some "continuity"... but the mere fact that it is a little island-state actually says it all...

if that´s what makes our dear albanian friends feel good, so be it! =)

this won´t continue forever, of course...

so, let them be happy for now!

Yep, same with Nauru recognizing Abkhazia (Russian loan).

Is this international law?
(Ron, 17 December 2009 14:29)

Nauru recognised Kosovo, but we all know what that little bit of land us used for.

it will still always be associated with the birth of Serbian culture
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Even gypsies have 'culture.'

@(sj, 19 December 2009 00:07)
you did a good analysis in the way you want things be. However, your wishes to see Albanians of Kosovo suffering for food and better life is not going to become true.
We probably are living the worst life in Balkans, but the truth is that this life is still far far better than it was when Kosovo was part of Serbia. I know you still think that Kosovo is part of Serbia, which practically is not true, but I want to ensure you that we live a happy life here, happier than you do in Serbia.

(KOSOVARi, 17 December 2009 21:00)

Do you even know where Malawi is?? If the Albanians think this is a great thing, well get an atlas and have a good look. No UN recognition until China and Russia say so – you will be like a kid outside a candy store with his face pressed against the window looking at all the goodies inside but never allowed in. No jobs, No investment, (KOSOVARi, 17 December 2009 21:00)

Do you even know where Malawi is?? If the Albanians think this is a great thing, well get an atlas and have a good look. No UN recognition until China and Russia say so – you will be like a kid outside a candy store with his face pressed against the window looking at all the goodies inside but never allowed in. No jobs, No investment, nothing until Belgrade says so.
nothing until Belgrade says so.

(Ataman, 17 December 2009 16:00)

Ataman,

I guess that every law applies to all or none. We agree?

So if Kosovo may break from Serbia why Abkhazia not from Georgia?

I really do not see the difference regarding international law!

By the way: Tibet? Taiwan? Kurdistan?

@ritchie, it really seems you don't understand or dont want to? even if all countries besides China or Russia will recognise, you will not be allowed to enter the UN. When will it get to your brain? and that only 127 countries still have to recognise it means that it will last at least 200 years

Sorry but does anyone even know where Malawi is? One of the least developed and poorest countries in the entire world. I feel sorry for these guys being bought out just to make an insignificant political declaration. If only that bribe money went towards feeding a few mouths in Malawi rather than to line some scumbags pockets.

just a reminder to albanians: your country (albania) was created 100% on serbian territory after the 2nd balkan war, so saying that 100 years ago serbs took your land is bs, simply because albania did not exist 100 years ago. and as for culuture - i won't waste my time contrasting serbs and albanians but would just like to advise everyone that comparing contributions of serbian people to the world with contrubutions of albanians is like comparing 16-wheeler to a hotwheel toy.

Well not fully true. Thanks to the Lisbon Treaty, Kosovo cannot be blocked, it requires majority votes, not just one "no". Also if Kosovo gets 50% recognition in the UN it can become a UN observer (Russia and China cannot veto this), which is a big stepping stone towards full membership. Kosovo is an unstoppable reality mate.
(Ian, UK, 18 December 2009 03:56)


Not true Ian. Accepting new members rule has not changed because of Lisbon Treaty. Any country can still veto.

As far as becoming a member of the UN if Kosovo gets 50% recognition therefore getting a status as an observer, which is a step closer to becoming a UN member is rubbish.

Russia and China can still block UN membership, observer or not. This is the closest you will ever be to UN membership. You will stay observer forever. But first, let's see you get 50% recognition.

How much did the albanians pay for this vote while there people are struggling with 45% unemployment crime and drugs?

If Kosovo can break away from Serbia, can Texas break away from USA? A lot of us here in Texas are thinking about this.

@Ian

Again ,wishful thinking of you.
If you read the complete text of the Lisbon treaty(and I have read it,what a bureaucratic mambo-jambo)
you have a new "foreign minister",new voting modalities in the European comission(the bigger states getting in % more votes etc.)
But the vetoes by the European council countries(which is made up of head of states and decide on accession and other most importing things)still have the vetoing power in place.
And NATO,too,just look what Greece is doing to Macedonia right now regarding this matter.
The UN,forget it mate,with the growing power and influence of China and Russia we will in the near future (a few years)see not only a stop in incoming recognitions(even from countries like Micronesia)but rather a reversal from those wich already recognized you.

Well not fully true. Thanks to the Lisbon Treaty, Kosovo cannot be blocked, it requires majority votes, not just one "no". Also if Kosovo gets 50% recognition in the UN it can become a UN observer (Russia and China cannot veto this), which is a big stepping stone towards full membership. Kosovo is an unstoppable reality mate.
(Ian, UK, 18 December 2009 03:56)

What you refuse to see is that the mighty US and your UK have done absolutely nothing for the Albanians in Kosovo. How many jobs have they created, none; how many factories have they established, none. Why doesn’t Obama ask Microsoft to open up a manufacturing plant in Kosovo??? Why don’t the UK open a car manufacturing plant in Pristina?
The process you describe involving the UN is so long and arduous that even your great, great grandchildren will be old and infirmed and Kosovo would not be given full membership. There is another most important item, China surpasses Japan as an economy in March 2010 then the US in 2011. Unless your Albanian mates can speed their observer status before that time, well it’s going to be even a longer wait, such as forever.

Yet this is not even near the situation of the eighties when you could put the passport in your pocket and travel wherever you want.
(Simpatiku, 18 December 2009 05:03)

So where are the changes then?
What else do Serbian citizens need beside the passport to travel around Europe?

Also as far as rewriting history you mentioned later on when replying to me, please show me which history was rewritten by Serbs and what is the correct version. Don't forget to include your sources.

Feel free to show us how Kosovo was Albanian before early 1900s and if you have any maps backing your claim up please present that as well.

I am really interested to learn somethig new.

Malawi is a very small nation. To somehow buy off Malwai's endorsement of Kosovo independence would not take that much.

it will still always be associated with the birth of Serbian culture
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Even gypsies have 'culture.'
(aRta, 18 December 2009 02:34)

I am guessing you tried to insult Serbs and Gypsies with your post, but have only managed to show your ignorance, racial intollerance.

Keep going, you are on a roll.

demi:

it is you albanians who are occupying our Holy Land! Kosmet is not yours nor will it ever be.

Kosovo's ethnic Albanians in February 2008 unilaterally proclaimed independence. 22 out of 27 EU member countries recognized the declaration, as did the United States, but Russia opposes it.
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Something else interesting that I noticed, the above statement being reported by B92 demonstrates that it is Western controlled. This type of justification is read frequently in the Western press.

For a Serbian controlled outlet, I would expect something along the lines of:

Kosovo's ethnic Albanians in February 2008 unilaterally proclaimed independence. 130 out of 192 UN members have not recognised the declaration, including Russia and China, but the US supports it.

The Malawi thing was done on purpose by USA, the same day Jeremic met with Clinton. Malawi by the way is a democracy.
(aRta, 17 December 2009 10:24)

So is India, South Africa, Indonesia, Venezuela, Brazil, Spain et al.

Well, after scouring the internet for news articles I managed to find four of them this time and two of them related to B92, so that is one more than New Zealand where three (Albanian) outlets reported it.

One article mentioned "Kosovan Foreign Minister Skender Hyseni has announced he was notified orally that the Republic of Malawi recognized Kosovo on December 14, Serbian B92 radio reports"

Kosovo gets another recognition and this actually makes me laugh. Ataman couldn't be closer to the truth when he described the tribal mentality yesterday as follows:
==
- Big, white massa come yesterday. Massa telling all: "say Kosova, me giving you a transistor radio!" We saying "Kosova", we got new radio!!!

- Eh, you being silly. Today even richer Massa come and tell all: "say Ossetia, me giving you plastic bags and ten bottles of fire water. We saying "Ossetia", now we all have a transistor radio, plastic shopping bags and we are in very happy mood after drinking that fire water. These big white Massa are crazy: they give us so many goodies for nothing!"
(Ataman, 16 December 2009 21:37)
==
I wonder how much firewater it will take to get these tribes to call Jeremic and say "Kosovo is Serbia!"? This whole recognition effort is getting funnier by the day as I'm sure the comments will also.

Cheers my friends! :)

Well here we go again more countrys is recognizing and there is more to come. If it continues like this in a period of 5 years Kosovo will have a UN-seat. At least our independence is safe and recognition comes but Serbia has no chance in gaining control over Kosovo and will never have. One day when we get over 100 recognition Serbia will not even dare to dream about occupying Kosovo once more. Not as long as KP(Kosovo police) KSF( Kosovo security forces) and the goverment in Prishtina exist.

When will they open an embassy in Pristina I wonder.
(Frans, 17 December 2009 12:30)
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Exactly Frans, recognitions come cheap these days, especially since they hardly get reported.

It's an oral recognition after all, I mean how much weight does that really carry? This whole recognition process is being built like a house of cards and one day the whole thing will just collapse. The foundations are already wobbling!

Zoran,

your absolutely right on the pro-western slant that B92 choose to use. It does strike me as odd that a apparently (proudly) independent Serbian media outlet does not naturally state it the way you have. I'd add India and Brazil to the list of Russia and China who as the BRIC nations will see the forging of a multilateral non western dominated century ahead of us.

The west is so piled down by debt which will leave it languishing for years to come - just read of the UK having to make cut backs in airforces and rest of military just to scrap together enough cash for some more helicopters for Afghanistan - also NATO went cap in hand to Russia for helicopter assistance. Wont be long before big white Manna has nothing left to keep these few recognitions that they have arm twisted and bribed for.

Oh what a tangled web we weave....

Malawi! I'm impressed! I guess its time for Serbia to throw in the towel. As long as Serbia doesn't recognize the illegal occupation of Kosovo, Serbs will one day take back what is legaly theirs and deal with the occupiers swiftly.

Even if America manages to pay off another 50 countries it won't change the fact that K-Serbs will never join the Pristina rebell institutions and Serbia will never recognize this Frankenstein creation.

Honestly I don`t understand why everyone is so thrilled about this "recognition".

It is totally irrelevant,like Nauru and Abkhazia.

What counts is that Kosovo is still Serbian territory legally(1244)and that our southern province is blocked everywhere.
They are not going to go away anywhere.
Patience is needed.

@UNE and Demi. Are you not getting tired of your own, constantly, repeated writings about Kosovo becoming a UN member? When will it come to your brains one day that no membership is agreed on if China and Russia will block it? You can have 155 recognitions but as long as those two powers say no, it will be no. I hope that you now finally will understand it otherwise I would advise you to read the UN acceptance rules.
Then to Malawi, a democracy for sure, multi-party democracy but one of the most poorest countries of the world with a life expectancy of around 40 years old. So, not much to expect from when it comes to help. When will they open an embassy in Pristina I wonder.

It find it amazing that pro albanian commentators are so busy giving red flags to all pro serb comments. Well, if you guys think that will help you win the argument then by all means, knock yourselves out.

Slap for Jeremic an his african tour. Can you guess where the next recognition will comme from???? Step up and take a guess...

Kosovo is on her way to be a UN member soon

"Kosovo's ethnic Albanians in February 2008 unilaterally proclaimed independence"

No, everyone but the Serbs did.

The Malawi thing was done on purpose by USA, the same day Jeremic met with Clinton. Malawi by the way is a democracy.

Why this news is posted so late. Recognition came at the same time as Jeremic was talking to US Sec of State.

Is B92 under the threat of Jeremic&Co or what?
- It would be no suprise to anyone, including serbian intellectual class, since serbia is controlled by Russian and Serbia Mafia.

Great, great, great...what else one can say.

Probably (again) they didn't know that they have to wait for ICJ ruling.

We thank Jeremic for his contribution at the ICJ hearing, because it majority of the countries that participated promoted Kosova as a country that fully deserved independence, is stable, secure democratic and respects minority rights.

So in the last 48 hours, two peripheral countries recognized the independence of two peripheral parastates, which was followed up in the comment section here by people somehow praising one while ridiculing the other depending on their nationalistic leaning.

I have only one major concern:

Why was South Ossetia left out?? What did they ever do to be neglected? Oh please won't someone think of the South Ossetians? Especially the South Ossetian children?

"[blah blah blah waaa waa waaa] since serbia is controlled by Russian and Serbia Mafia." (Olf)

-- Hahahaha, dude you're really losing it. Thank God I swallowed my coffee before reading your comment. Thanks for the morning pick-me-up :))

Great News. I am sure that some Serbs realise that sooner this is done and dealt with, they will have a better future.

"Why this news is posted so late. Recognition came at the same time as Jeremic was talking to US Sec of State.
Is B92 under the threat of Jeremic&Co or what?" (Olf)

-- Actually my dear Olf, B92 posted this yesterday on its Serbian part:

"Republika Malavi priznala Kosovo
16. decembar 2009."

So no need to call INTERPOL for some sinister Slavic Orthodox agent of the Kremlin failing to report the wonderful wonderful news. I thought that for someone who was some big worker in Kosovo, and who claimed to have had the trust and respect of many Kosovo Serbs, you'd be able to read Serbo-Croatian, or at the very least pick this lil bit of info up on the Serbian site? Methinks you're a little too excited. Give the good people at B92 time to post their articles.

Congratulations to pro -independence Kosovar-Albanians for receiving recognition from Malawi.

Isn't it strange that poor countries which want US help suddenly recognize Kosovo?

Yep, same with Nauru recognizing Abkhazia (Russian loan).

Is this international law?

I wonder how much firewater it will take to get these tribes to call Jeremic and say "Kosovo is Serbia!"? This whole recognition effort is getting funnier by the day as I'm sure the comments will also.

Cheers my friends! :)
(Zoran, 17 December 2009 11:06)

Zoran,

The fire water in question was the famous "Stolichnaya". To achieve similar results, you can't just throw in few bottles of average consumer-quality Shliva. You need either consult with the nuns of Grachanica regarding Shliva or bribe some Albanians regarding Skanderbeu.

I am sorry, but these (I mean, Stolichnaya, Grachanica-made Shlivovica or Skandebeu) are serious topics to discuss, not like all this Nauru-Ossetia-Malawi-Kosovo tribal nonsense.

I dare to say, while obviously not in that fancy bottle: what the nuns make out of the grapes is very strong (at least 60-proof), but the quality beats any Italian "Garappa". There is a big Orthodox cross inside of every bottle, some villager in Grachanica puts it inside very tricky way and sells to the monastery ;-)

Otherwise I am going to join any Serbian-Albanian debate any time providing expert views regarding lokum from Takovo of Gornji Milanovac versus llokum of Prizren. But I have nothing more to say in the Malawi+Kosovo versus Nauru+Ossetia debate.

it is you albanians who are occupying our Holy Land! Kosmet is not yours nor will it ever be.
(Ratko, 17 December 2009 13:14)


First of all the land is not Holy. Second you can visit your churches and graves anytime you want as long as you follow the rules of Kosova.


The land is ours and if the churches is yours then move them because they are on my Land.

Thank you Malawi. African nations more than anyone else understand the struggle that our people had to endure.
The timing of this recognition has convinced me that Serbia and her powerful allies are in for a slow and painful period ahead.

"Kosovo has over 2 million people (95% non serb) and a very good reason to be independent."
kosovaman

So, Serbia should lose Kosovo because albanians have 10-12 children per family and are now a majority population in Kosovo? So if arabs become a majority population in northern Germany, due to high birth rates, they could demand independence? That's why albanians had so many children. To become a majority in Kosovo and western Macedonia and to steal land that was never yours.
Kosovo can be 110% albanian, it will still always be associated with the birth of Serbian culture. As long as there are Serbs that won't change.

i'm confident that 'kosova' will do some major business with malawi and their $312 per capita GDP.

"Serbs will one day take back what is legaly theirs and deal with the occupiers swiftly. "

Sure. And the germans will "one day" take back Kaliningrad. Reality is a little bit different.

I have only one major concern:

Why was South Ossetia left out?? What did they ever do to be neglected? Oh please won't someone think of the South Ossetians? Especially the South Ossetian children?

(Mike, 17 December 2009 13:01)

Mike,

Since it's not directly about Malawi - I break my promise and "contribute" once more to this debate of such a big importance.

I already wrote about one possibility: Massa Behgjet mixed up somewhat with the fustanellas and they in Nauru waiting for the shipment what landed up in Malawi by mistake. Good opportunity for ladies to discuss the privy parts of naurian guys because as long as Massa Behgjet does not correct the mistake - they have nothing to cover their butts with.

An other possibility is, they can't call Massa Vladimir because the batteries of the cell phone Massa Behgjet forgot on the island need to be re-charged. The Council of Elders told the President that possible there is a way to make that cell phone work again. So the Chief Shaman is performing the ritual dance which supposed to bring the dead back to this world. Sometimes it helps, so there is a hope that after the dance is performed properly the batteries of the phone will work again - and nothing will prevent Nauru to recognize Ossetia.

Are you satisfied with that explanation?

Like in the old joke.

American, Russian and Chukch compete, who can hold on longer without eating. American guy goes inside the little home made of ice, after several hours picks up the cell phone: "I am hungry!"
Russian guy goes inside - well, Russians used to withstand more discomfort, so it takes twice as long till the cell phone rings.
At last, Chukcha goes inside. One day passes... no call. An other day passes... no call. On the third day people got seriously worried and go inside. They see Chukcha on his knees worshiping the cell phone:
"Dear Telephone, please, please tell everyone: I am really hungry!"

("Телефона-Телефона: Цукца куцать хоцет!")

(Ataman, 17 December 2009 16:00)

Ataman,

I guess that every law applies to all or none. We agree?

So if Kosovo may break from Serbia why Abkhazia not from Georgia?

I really do not see the difference regarding international law!

By the way: Tibet? Taiwan? Kurdistan?

A KFOR Soldier's Frustration in Kosovo
http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=2277

The thing that bothers me here is the Albanian Mafia. 75% unemployment and the Mercedes and BMW's are newer than mine...

[A Eulex officer] told me that in Gnjilane even with the 75% unemployment, there is an average of 1500 cash deposits over 10,000 Euros monthly...

What happened with the contractor was this: An Albainian speaking gibberish holding an ID of an American walked up to the main entrance of Camp Bonsteel. The guards at the gate detained him and brought down an interpreter to figure out what was going on. That's when he led the MP's to a body that had been de-organed...

I was talking to a KPS officer with an interpreter who was frustrated with the level of corruption within the Police...

A KFOR Soldier's Frustration in Kosovo
http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=2277
(Danny, 17 December 2009 18:26)
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Thanks for that link Danny. What an insightful story and if true Kosovo certainly has no future.

(KOSOVARi, 17 December 2009 21:00)

Do you even know where Malawi is?? If the Albanians think this is a great thing, well get an atlas and have a good look. No UN recognition until China and Russia say so – you will be like a kid outside a candy store with his face pressed against the window looking at all the goodies inside but never allowed in. No jobs, No investment, (KOSOVARi, 17 December 2009 21:00)

Do you even know where Malawi is?? If the Albanians think this is a great thing, well get an atlas and have a good look. No UN recognition until China and Russia say so – you will be like a kid outside a candy store with his face pressed against the window looking at all the goodies inside but never allowed in. No jobs, No investment, nothing until Belgrade says so.
nothing until Belgrade says so.

@Ian

The problem is that Kosovo,our serbian southern province, is totally blocked,it cannot join any organizations(EU,NATO,UN) AND that the UN resolution 1244 clearly defines it as part of Serbia.
And after Russias recognition of Abkhazia this fate is sealed forever.
In their imagination,Albanians feel independent,in reality they are living in a prison cell.
And we will keep it that way,count on it!

it will still always be associated with the birth of Serbian culture
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Even gypsies have 'culture.'

'It's an oral recognition after all, I mean how much weight does that really carry? '

Not an "oral recognition" but a "note verbale" - "An unsigned diplomatic note written in the third person, of the nature of a memorandum but sometimes considered to be more formal" (thanks to google)

'Wont be long before big white Manna has nothing left to keep these few recognitions that they have arm twisted and bribed for.'

"Massa" not Manna - the slaves' name for the "master" on a pre-Civil-War plantation in the U.S. South.

'But I have nothing more to say in the Malawi+Kosovo versus Nauru+Ossetia debate.
(Ataman, 17 December 2009 12:56) '

'I thought ... you'd be able to read Serbo-Croatian, or at the very least pick this lil bit of info up on the Serbian site?'

I was reading the Serbian site yesterday and never saw it - maybe it just didn't rate a headline?

Jeremic is so anxious to please the USA that he leaves himself wide open for this latest embarrassment. Let this be a lesson to all sycophants.

Thank you, Malawi.

Frans wrote: You can have 155 recognitions but as long as those two powers say no...

Hey Frans, we heard many "NO-s" before, but they all turned out to be YES.
Another day, another recognition.

was there still some little tiny island under US-influence left? =)

well, I wouldn´t pay so much attention to these, certainly orchestrated "late" recognition "events"...

there is a pattern visible here, ...they´ve very likely been told to recognise right after the ICJ-debate, in order to create the impression of some "continuity"... but the mere fact that it is a little island-state actually says it all...

if that´s what makes our dear albanian friends feel good, so be it! =)

this won´t continue forever, of course...

so, let them be happy for now!

First of all the land is not Holy. Second you can visit your churches and graves anytime you want as long as you follow the rules of Kosova.


The land is ours and if the churches is yours then move them because they are on my Land.
(Demi, 17 December 2009 14:50)

Demi, produce the deed to the land in the form of proof of your existance for centuries. Pitching tents while going around looking for food is not ownership of the land.

Also, what churches and cemetaries can Serbs visit when your lot has destroyed most of them.

So if Kosovo may break from Serbia why Abkhazia not from Georgia?

I really do not see the difference regarding international law!

By the way: Tibet? Taiwan? Kurdistan?
(Ron, 17 December 2009 20:53)

You can't possibly compare Kosovo with Abkhazia. Kosovo has over 2 million people (95% non serb) and a very good reason to be independent, while Abkhazia has just over 100 thousand and the only reason is to join another country (Russia) and create tensions in the region. Kosovo has been in fact independent from Serbia since 1999, and the democracy here is functioning much better than the one in Serbia or Russia.

Sorry but does anyone even know where Malawi is? One of the least developed and poorest countries in the entire world. I feel sorry for these guys being bought out just to make an insignificant political declaration. If only that bribe money went towards feeding a few mouths in Malawi rather than to line some scumbags pockets.

since serbia is controlled by Russian and Serbia Mafia.
(Olf, 17 December 2009 12:12)

Hahahaha! And Kosovo is temporarily controlled by honest politicians and no mafia?

This recognition isn't ground breaking and I know that Malawi and Kosovo won't have much to do with each other in the future, but regardless I am pleased. Every little helps and it is the numbers what count. It is just another small step of the international community accepting the reality of an independent Kosovo.

At least Malawi wasn't paid $50 million to recognise. Russia is openly offering money for countries to recognise Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Nauru $50million, Ecuador $200million, Belarus $500million and we all know that Venezuela got money, arms and trade deals in return for recognition. Mental!

@ritchie, it really seems you don't understand or dont want to? even if all countries besides China or Russia will recognise, you will not be allowed to enter the UN. When will it get to your brain? and that only 127 countries still have to recognise it means that it will last at least 200 years

Frans,
What I'm trying to say is that you're believing too much in Russia. I beleive that Abkasia and osetia will get more recognitions and then we will have a situation of trading those recognitions. US and west europe will recognize those two provinces and Russia will recognize Kosovo. After all its all business right? Its a good business for all, except Georgia and Serbia.

What happened to the Serbian strategy? I thought that bringing the case to the ICJ was supposed to stop all recognitions. Miscalculated?

(you forgot this):
this is great news, close to year's end and near enough to the ICJ's decision. it appears that not all countries agree to play by the rules of the (former) colonizer...

thank you for the latest recognition, it is always a wonderful feeling, a way for us to sssstretch out our hard won independence (i'm an honourary albanian kosovar here). there is no way back. but a great deal to move forward, so much to be done. always ways to improve, build real multi-cultural democracy, fight corruption, stop jingoism, bring an end to the mutual fears and suspicions... but certainly that is the case throughout the balkans; it is just that certain others never own up to it.

another day of celebration, my frnds!

roberto
heading east

Yep, same with Nauru recognizing Abkhazia (Russian loan).

Is this international law?
(Ron, 17 December 2009 14:29)

Nauru recognised Kosovo, but we all know what that little bit of land us used for.

MikeC
The reason why Serbia should lose Kosovo is not high birth rate of albanians. It should lose Kosovo because it has abused that population that has considered its own. Deportation of over 900 thousand of people sponsored by state institutions is the reason why Serbia has forefighted any claim to Kosovo.

just a reminder to albanians: your country (albania) was created 100% on serbian territory after the 2nd balkan war, so saying that 100 years ago serbs took your land is bs, simply because albania did not exist 100 years ago. and as for culuture - i won't waste my time contrasting serbs and albanians but would just like to advise everyone that comparing contributions of serbian people to the world with contrubutions of albanians is like comparing 16-wheeler to a hotwheel toy.

64 and counting. PS to the Serb who said 130 have not recognized...it's actually in the 120s now.

That's why albanians had so many children. To become a majority in Kosovo and western Macedonia and to steal land that was never yours.
Kosovo can be 110% albanian, it will still always be associated with the birth of Serbian culture. As long as there are Serbs that won't change.
(MikeC, 18 December 2009 00:01)

Ok you just accepted the fact that Serbian nation was created in Kosovo (Albanian - Ilyrian land) but were never able to expell all native people (Albanians) from there. Just for your information, Skopje was the capital of Albania about 100 years ago, and half of Macedonia was always populated by Albanians. If you look at the map it just shows all the parts of Albania that were given a 100 years ago to Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Greece and so on by powerful nations, and now they are correcting the problem. But we don't want them back we just wanted Kosovo, and we got it.

@Ian

The problem is that Kosovo,our serbian southern province, is totally blocked,it cannot join any organizations(EU,NATO,UN) AND that the UN resolution 1244 clearly defines it as part of Serbia.
And after Russias recognition of Abkhazia this fate is sealed forever.
In their imagination,Albanians feel independent,in reality they are living in a prison cell.
And we will keep it that way,count on it!
(CG, 17 December 2009 21:46)

You may be right CG, but one thing you got distorted here. Serbia does not have and will not have any power to block Kosovo on the road to euro-atlantic integrations. Without recognizing Kosovo, Serbia will not be admitted in EU. Visa C to the Schengen countries (for which I congratulate Serbian citizens) does not mean admission in EU. Rather it came after fulfilling some technical conditions. Yet this is not even near the situation of the eighties when you could put the passport in your pocket and travel wherever you want.

Demi, produce the deed to the land in the form of proof of your existance for centuries. Pitching tents while going around looking for food is not ownership of the land.

Also, what churches and cemetaries can Serbs visit when your lot has destroyed most of them.
(Peggy, 17 December 2009 21:10)

Peggy
There is no need for Demi to produce any deed, because from 1913 to 12-Jun-99 serbian military took a good care of those deeds. The newest example of that was the building of Prizren League in Prizren, that was destroyed to the ground by forces from Serbia and the memorials of Ymer Prizreni and Abdyl Frasheri have been found in the field outside the city. The deeds like passports and ID's have been confiscated from people who were forcely driven from their homes. Killings and massacres are not things that are to happen in one "Holy Land". The "deeds" and history rewritten in 1989 and after that are not credible to serve as deeds.

Well not fully true. Thanks to the Lisbon Treaty, Kosovo cannot be blocked, it requires majority votes, not just one "no". Also if Kosovo gets 50% recognition in the UN it can become a UN observer (Russia and China cannot veto this), which is a big stepping stone towards full membership. Kosovo is an unstoppable reality mate.
(Ian, UK, 18 December 2009 03:56)

What you refuse to see is that the mighty US and your UK have done absolutely nothing for the Albanians in Kosovo. How many jobs have they created, none; how many factories have they established, none. Why doesn’t Obama ask Microsoft to open up a manufacturing plant in Kosovo??? Why don’t the UK open a car manufacturing plant in Pristina?
The process you describe involving the UN is so long and arduous that even your great, great grandchildren will be old and infirmed and Kosovo would not be given full membership. There is another most important item, China surpasses Japan as an economy in March 2010 then the US in 2011. Unless your Albanian mates can speed their observer status before that time, well it’s going to be even a longer wait, such as forever.

(CG, 17 December 2009 21:46)

Well not fully true. Thanks to the Lisbon Treaty, Kosovo cannot be blocked, it requires majority votes, not just one "no". Also if Kosovo gets 50% recognition in the UN it can become a UN observer (Russia and China cannot veto this), which is a big stepping stone towards full membership. Kosovo is an unstoppable reality mate.

@Ian

Again ,wishful thinking of you.
If you read the complete text of the Lisbon treaty(and I have read it,what a bureaucratic mambo-jambo)
you have a new "foreign minister",new voting modalities in the European comission(the bigger states getting in % more votes etc.)
But the vetoes by the European council countries(which is made up of head of states and decide on accession and other most importing things)still have the vetoing power in place.
And NATO,too,just look what Greece is doing to Macedonia right now regarding this matter.
The UN,forget it mate,with the growing power and influence of China and Russia we will in the near future (a few years)see not only a stop in incoming recognitions(even from countries like Micronesia)but rather a reversal from those wich already recognized you.

Who cares? In 10 years all of the former Yugoslavia will be in the EU and you can travel amongst yourselves and all be a big happy family. Get over it.

How much did the albanians pay for this vote while there people are struggling with 45% unemployment crime and drugs?

@(sj, 19 December 2009 00:07)
you did a good analysis in the way you want things be. However, your wishes to see Albanians of Kosovo suffering for food and better life is not going to become true.
We probably are living the worst life in Balkans, but the truth is that this life is still far far better than it was when Kosovo was part of Serbia. I know you still think that Kosovo is part of Serbia, which practically is not true, but I want to ensure you that we live a happy life here, happier than you do in Serbia.

Well not fully true. Thanks to the Lisbon Treaty, Kosovo cannot be blocked, it requires majority votes, not just one "no". Also if Kosovo gets 50% recognition in the UN it can become a UN observer (Russia and China cannot veto this), which is a big stepping stone towards full membership. Kosovo is an unstoppable reality mate.
(Ian, UK, 18 December 2009 03:56)


Not true Ian. Accepting new members rule has not changed because of Lisbon Treaty. Any country can still veto.

As far as becoming a member of the UN if Kosovo gets 50% recognition therefore getting a status as an observer, which is a step closer to becoming a UN member is rubbish.

Russia and China can still block UN membership, observer or not. This is the closest you will ever be to UN membership. You will stay observer forever. But first, let's see you get 50% recognition.

it will still always be associated with the birth of Serbian culture
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Even gypsies have 'culture.'
(aRta, 18 December 2009 02:34)

I am guessing you tried to insult Serbs and Gypsies with your post, but have only managed to show your ignorance, racial intollerance.

Keep going, you are on a roll.

If Kosovo can break away from Serbia, can Texas break away from USA? A lot of us here in Texas are thinking about this.

Malawi is a very small nation. To somehow buy off Malwai's endorsement of Kosovo independence would not take that much.

Yet this is not even near the situation of the eighties when you could put the passport in your pocket and travel wherever you want.
(Simpatiku, 18 December 2009 05:03)

So where are the changes then?
What else do Serbian citizens need beside the passport to travel around Europe?

Also as far as rewriting history you mentioned later on when replying to me, please show me which history was rewritten by Serbs and what is the correct version. Don't forget to include your sources.

Feel free to show us how Kosovo was Albanian before early 1900s and if you have any maps backing your claim up please present that as well.

I am really interested to learn somethig new.