Not guilty verdict in Bytyqi case

Yeah right, aperantly it was terrorists...
Even at a brutal time Serbia couldnt give more than 15 days.
The brothers obviously had no weapons when cought.
And the Serbian judge wants to let criminals free becouse he dosnt know what weapon they used at army baracks to eliminate them.
(troika melb, 22 September 2009 10:35)

Do You see their funeral?? Do You see UCK emblem over coffins?? If they were not UCK (terrorist force) members, so why their funeral was in guard of UCK members and with UCK emblems??

American albanians who came to the Serbian province Kosovo to kill innocent Serbs! They themselves ended up dead and now this is a crime! Please! Perhaps the death of these brothers spared the lives of Serbs who they never got the oportunity to hurt or kill.

They were freed!!!Thanks god!
As for the bytiqys,they were UCK terrorists and got what they were looking for.

These brothers were mercenaries and were involved in killing and ethnically cleansing Serbs in Kosovo, then they went into Serbia to start troubles.

A fellow KLA soldier who knew them said they did NOT turn over their weapons.

They were the terrorists invading another country. I'm glad they were killed. Only too bad it wasn't in combat or some accident so we don't have all this circus and hyped press.

Way to go Serbia, this is what you needed, the West was already having a field day with hooligans, tourist beatings and now letting war criminals free:

Deutche Press: " The bodies of the Bitici brothers were found atop a mass grave near a police commando compound at Petrovo Selo in eastern Serbia, in 2001.

The investigation determined that they were executed three days after they were led out of the prison, killed with their hands cuffed behind their backs with shots to the back of their heads.

There were 67 more bodies buried beneath them at Petrovo Selo. The others were Kosovo Albanians killed in their villages during the war, then brought for mass burials in Serbia proper in a bid by Slobodan Milosevic's regime to hide atrocities.

Several more mass graves of Albanians were found in 2001 and 2002, the largest of them, with nearly 900 bodies, discovered at another police compound, in Batajnica on the outskirts of Belgrade. "

These were AMERICAN citizens, it ain't over yet!

I, for the life of me, cannot draw myself to even begin to comprehend the stupidity by which the albanians on this site are united.

I'll paint a picture for you. These bytyqi brothers were part of the atlantic brigade - a subdivision of the KLA. The KLA was branded a terrorist organisation by the Americans. These brothers travelled to then Yugoslavia in order to join the other KLA fighters in Kosovo.

A very famous case, that of convicted terrorist and former guantanamo bay detainee - David Hicks should be brought to the attention of all of the commentors on this site. David Hicks, an Australian, was sent to guantanamo bay after being caught during a raid on a taliban location. He was an Australian citizen who went to fight for the taliban (taliban being a terrorist organisation according to the Americans).

Key point being he was an Australian citizen who travelled to another country in order to fight against the troops that were stationed there - i.e. the Australians. His citizenship was immediately cancelled and a warrant for his arrest was put out by the Australian Federal Police.

So how is it possible for you albanians to try and justify the same actions. These men were clearly KLA - as the picture above the article shows.

The KLA were branded terrorists, so therefore these men were terrorists. They joined a terrorist organisation thus they forfeited their American citizenships. They travelled to the former Yugoslavia in order to fight against the Serbian forces in Kosovo.

The KLA (Kosovo Liberation Army) was a separatist movement with the goal of seperating Kosovo from Serbia. The Serbians declared war on the KLA because of this. Thus the KLA were a threat to national security. These men were dealt with accordingly.




Dear B92 Moderator - Please feel free to change whatever you do not agree with. I am quite sure that my comment meets the required guidelines by all means and does not require alteration.

Thank you.

"have you heard of the term warprisoner?"

Mercenaries don't have the same rights as official war prisoners or POWs.

During the time they were killed it was OPEN SEASON on Serbian civilans in Kosovo. Around 2,000 Serbs and Roma were killed or kidnapped and then killed in 1999.

It is a travesty that on Serbian land there are organized funerals with terrorist insignia engraved on tombstones.

Albanian terrorists should be searched, located, apprehended and liquidated.

"Americans" who join a foreign army or military force automatically renounce their citizenship and forfeit all rights and priveleges thereof. Their former citizenship should in no way 'complicate' this case. Just like the 'America' Adam Ghadan who joined the Taliban. Best left to water boarding and Guantanamo Bay.

bytici brothers, got justice thath they deserved and no more justice anyone has right to ask! Who takes a sword will die from sword1

I am not surprised at all with this decision. Serbian state still commits crimes against humanity by upholding thousands of uncovered and still missing bodies of Kosovars killed in the '90s. Why should we expect this state to punish the crime of its own? We should not. Kosovars bow to the graves of the heroes who fought the tirany and made it possible for Kosovars to have their own state now. God bless them all!

Here is a picture of Isa Kodra (see link) who was part of the Atlantic Brigade and was the guy who claimed the brothers did not give up their weapons after the war but hid them from NATO. For all we know they may have been caught with their weapons (the first time) or had just hid/stashed them somewhere in southern Serbia where the NLA was setting up.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_-xP7ZrVCwHA/SOfrxVb_nWI/AAAAAAAAAwc/xmJWBtroPMw/FFdfsf.jpg
"Isa Kodra, a sergeant in the U.S. National Guard who is volunteering to fight for the Kosovo Liberation Army, stands before his comrades Sunday, April 11,1999, in Yonkers, N.Y. More than 400 recruits were sworn in Sunday and are scheduled to leave later this week on charter flights from New York to Tirana, Albania, from where they hope to join the KLA. (AP Photo/Stephen Chernin)"

"They were doing humanaritarian work, rather then trying to invade Serbia as per ida.
(Kosova-USA, 22 September 2009 13:29) "

hahaha humanitarian work, good one. Coffins covered in american flags, very touching. Maybe they were even involved in organ harvesting of innocent kidnapped Serbs.

Just want to say thanks to these brave soldiers; who went to fight in Kosmet to protect Serbs from these uck terrorists. Can you imagine, they went to another country to kill Serbs? And this is who nato supported, absolute disgrace! If only the world public knew what america did.

Bytyqi brothers died for a noble cause. Long live their memory in the hearts of any decent person. Their life and that of 10k others did not end in vain. We bow with respect in front of their graves as we confirm everyday that their dream came true, a free and independent Kosova. They are our heroes who came from all over the Atlantic to protect the innocent people form the likes of Arkan.

As per Serb authorities, no one expects any better. Luckily this picture of Serb injustice has been painted all over the international arena. Remember Mladic or more recently Kovasevic?

Bytuqi brothers were terrorists! I wonder how they would be treated in other countries like in Israel or USA.

This is gross miscarriage of justice by a state which overtly sponsored and continues to sponsor terrorism. It is clear that the criminals who shot the Bytyqi brothers enjoy protection from top members of the Serbian 'state' and it is also very clear that a guilty sentence would have opened a Pandora's box. It was therefore a political decision.
The Bytyqi brothers were killed after the war in Kosovo ended and they were unlawfully murdered in non-combat conditions. Moreover, even if they had been captured in combat conditions, POW rules should have applied. But obviously it is very clear that the terrorist state of Serbia has no regard for such rules or regulations and refuses to sentence its criminals for atrocious crimes.
SHAME ON YOU!

"They were doing humanaritarian work, rather then trying to invade Serbia as per ida."
Kosova-USA

Ha ha ha! Humanitarian work! With AK-47s and handgranades!

Sad to see Serbs searching for any excuse, not matter how sickening, in explaining their blatant breach of international law when it comes to its highest principles - that of human rights.

They were freed!!!Thanks god!
As for the bytiqys,they were UCK terrorists and got what they were looking for.
(CG, 22 September 2009 14:48)

Quite a few Serbs disagree with that on the Serbian site of B92. All I can say is this (from the comments there):

"Zeleo bi pravdu (ako se to moze reci) za sve zrtve ovoga rata bez obzira na nacionalnost."

Otherwise someone is guilty with that murder, correct? If these two are not, than I want to know who - and want to see them locked up.

And as "Pedja" - I think, I know him in person ;-) - writes:

"Gde su organizatori, gde su oni koji su ubistvo naredli?"

(Goran, 22 September 2009 14:32)

Wow, you explained quite a lot about the general Serbian feeling towards this (and other) case.

You're missing one important fact. These three ‘terrorist’ brothers were unarmed and posed no threat to anyone when executed. Remember, they were arrested, then handed over to be Murdered.
1. Een if they were involved with KLA, they should have been tried and sentenced.
2. How do we even know now that they were who you say they were (KLA or similar)
3. Are we to take YOUR word for it just because you say so?
4. They were Murdered and the evidence is gone.

Nice photo, I am very touched...

Justice privailed.A good message to politically correct self-destroying europe:terrorists and bandits must be punished and not those who hunt for them.

One question for ‘luca_uk’: In whose name are you talking when you say things like “ i wish this country throw all the serbs out of uk.they dont deserve our bread,our jobs,our help.” Apparently you don’t even speak the English language properly? How exactly are you part of ‘us’, then? There are many ways of integrating into a society, and learning the language would undoubtedly be one of the first steps – please make sure you took them all before you start commenting.
One for Roberto – as someone who has family connections across peoples and ethnicity 'divides' (including Jewish) I am finding your comments as bordering repulsive. And I have found myself ‘not recommending’ your posts without reading them at all. There is a message in it for me, surely, but even bigger one for you - called hypocrisy. I hope you will get it.
Regarding the case – killing the prisoners, or anybody else, without a trial is inexcusable. What’s more, death sentence should be banned from the face of this earth altogether. Whoever has done this has to be brought to the face of justice and sentenced accordingly – but that does not mean you should pick up any Tom, Dick and Harry for the sake of sentencing someone. That practice is called ‘lynching’ and belongs to the Dark Ages. There has to be a proof (I must say Haradinaj is free at the moment only because no solid proof could be found – and we all know what the reasons are). I hope the perpetrators (on both sides) will be apprehended soon, and answer for the crime/s they committed.

Even DEATH SENTENCE would not be enough for these super terrorists.

What's makes worse is the fact that they are just drop in ocean, their collegues are even worse than them.

Serbia will give them some moderate sentences for the sake of internationals, and as soon as the trial ends, in a matter of days they will be set free, rewarded, and called upon to populate jails ONLY when internatioals agencies attempt to make potential inspections (if the latter bother to do so)...

Government cannot convict people who followed the instructions of that very same government.

Hypocracy at its best.

Yeah, there is no verdict in Bytyqi case! No big deal; would the Serbian campus say. Three Albanians more, murdered. It is not in any case the figure which would make them feel happy. We are aware of the fact. However, they’ve been constantly proving something that Serbian diplomacy tries to conceal for a long time; that is the fact that Albanians were killed systematically without any legal procedure. In other words the hatred against anything with the prefix Alb has blinded the above mentioned. Feeling happy for the fact that some killers are sticking around unpunished for their crimes, would sooner or latter turn out to become a boomerang. Remember, the coldblooded murderers never change their attitude. Kosovo is now independent, and we aren’t so naïve to think that we could have gained independence without victims, and as far as I am concerned, the verdict bought was not surprise at all. It is rather the confirmation of the destructive Serbian opinion towards reality.

Sentence this criminals to death will not be enough. Cowards should be hanged in the middle of the street's so everybody can see how weak they are. But I know it wont help because the serbian goverment and the people in Serbia adore this guy's. They are heros just like Mladic when he killed 8000 young people in Srbrenica.

Don't forget that this criminals worked for the state of Serbia. And their collegues still work there with dirty hands.


proud to be a serbian ,ah ?

Ah, Mike's comments to roberto made in Aug. need to be repeated again and again.
Mike said...

"roberto,

First, you need to stop being a self-proclaimed martyr. No one is "attacking" you on this site as you claim. I and a number of others are "criticizing" you for your one-sided views on a number of issues that come off as extremely hypocritical and egotistical. You paint yourself as an unjust victim by writing "if all of the S nationalist posters here utterly discount everything i say [roberto] then how could any of them POSSibly care what i have to say about anything?"

-- To be honest, I'm not sure a lot of people really "care" about what you write any more than they "care" about what other people write when they try to portray themselves as objective and above the fray of nationalism, yet still lump entire ethnic groups in a set of stereotypes. You may think you're trying to write objectively here, but it's painfully obvious you have an apparent bias. That's your right and opinion, and I'm not here to critique that. I'm only here to point out what I and others see are perennial inconsistencies in your arguments. If pointing that out offends you to the point where you can only refer to us as "nationalists", that's an unfortunate feature of your personal character. So, we don’t really regard you as an authority figure. We just note the hypocrisy hidden beneath the text.

Second, you should come to a better understanding of who is a "nationalist" on this site and who isn't. It's easy for you to claim all your detractors are nothing more than "s nationalists" because you can then classify them as beneath you and not worthy of consideration that they have any valid arguments. Are there nationalists on this site? Without question, and they make up both sides and are more than Serbs and Albanians. Can things get personal? Absolutely. Are comments made here that belie all forms of rational thought? Too many for my taste. But being critical of the other side and providing a frame of thought that still takes one's own side does not constitute "nationalism".

Third, you are not all knowing. You refer to yourself as an "outsider" who apparently thinks they are doing the rest of us a favor by trying to inform us of things we would never have known had you not posted your thoughts. As I've said in the past, I find myself agreeing with your ideas in theory, but for reasons that are only your own you feel the need to arbitrarily apply them to certain scenarios only. That you castigate a number of us for being "Serbian nationalists" while referring to Albanians as simply your "colleagues" already implies a bias you think you don’t have. If you can’t see the apparent nationalism from your own “colleagues” you’re not thinking objectively, and that's a primary reason why a number of us can't take you or what you say seriously.

You may honestly think you’re above the fray, and you may honestly think the criticisms you receive is a Cross you must nobly bear in order to fight for what you feel to be the truth. But I think it’s safe to say a number of us think you just come across as an arrogant blowhard with impeccable grammar.

Hopefully you’ll take this to heart and not feel the need to chalk it up to another comment from a “s nationalist” that you can add to some conceptual badge of honor.
(Mike, 14 August 2009)"

If that wouldn't be the case you cannot argue about 1244 because 1244 is the law, not what Drenica Clan does declare because they got some underhanded support from USA.

Once upon a time, the law was that Kosova was an integral and respected autonomous part of Yugo with equal rights as the rest of the consecutive members of federation. Being fired for being Albanian was against the law. Being beaten up for being Albanian was also against the law. Being killed and expunged for being Albanian was also against a law, until all thesed changed to the convenience of your slav brothers.
It's time for new laws. The old ones (including your favorite 1244) have long outlived their usefulness. If you want to be acquainted with the new laws, read K-Constitution, no need for clan references.

Ida,

I agree with you more often than not and disagree with Kosova-USA most of the time.

But as far as I know, here he is 100% correct. It is unclear, that the brothers EVER did fire a single shot. All what we know is that they did behave somewhat erratically, helping and mingling with all three major ethnic elements (Albanians, Serbs, Gypsies).

The only proven crime they did commit was violation of the border crossing procedure / lack of visa and being part of anti-government unit (UCK). Merely crossing illegally won't result in 15 day detention, but for doing so and being part of UCK is what 15 day detention was.

It was known, a Serbian Gypsy was supposed to meet them after the 15 day detention and take them in his car somewhere - not a typical case if one would be engaged into big-scale ethnic violence against Serbs.

Besides that, a verdict is a verdict. The judge delivered the only valid Serbian verdict which is 15 days imprisonment and not a death sentence. If the law is the law and 1244 is the law, than it's also the other way, no double standards.

This was intentional murder and I would also (as obvious political message) deliver the maximum possible sentence plus property confiscation. The problem is, probably they did not catch the biggest fish, but "на безрыбие и рак рыба" - so whoever is found guilty for the murder, has to pay. I am not fan of any "plea bargain deal" - but as exception maybe I would encourage the smaller perpetrators to "sing" about the larger fish who ordered the entire thing.

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To Kosova-USA:

As said, this time you are correct. Even if I do not support what the three brothers wanted, what they did was no more, than what 15 days sentence was for. Who killed them has to be locked away for the rest of his life and his property confiscated.

Miri,

Now you need to look at your pants and look for a fire extinguisher.
Why not use the same standard towards everyone?

Bytyqi brothers died for a noble cause.
(miri, 22 September 2009 15:39)

That case was anything, but noble. It was about destruction. The prime target were different Serbian institutions, often civil. Not Milosevic directly and his satraps. And do not forget - the now-beloved Milo Djukanovic was his main satrap. How come, Albanians like that guy so much now?

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Long live their memory in the hearts of any decent person.
(miri, 22 September 2009 15:39)

They are victims, indeed and will be remembered as such. May they rest in peace.

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Their life and that of 10k others did not end in vain.
(miri, 22 September 2009 15:39)

And how many innocent lives that monster Quetzalcoatl did take? You know, the Aztec "pigeon-snake" god who feeds on human organs?

And Naser Oric?

As long as there are who worship these monsters and judges who set these monsters free - well, you see the result. All war criminals need to be locked up, regardless of nationality, religion.

This verdict shows the true face of Serbia today not much different then Serbia of Yesterday.
i was lucky to have fought side by side with Bytyqi Brothers and i got to know them very well, they were humanists in a true sense of the word they loved people and could not stand the Genocide in Kosova, they fought to stop the war, stop the mass killings of inocent civilians.
they were not blinded by hate or extreme nationalism all they wanted to do was help even if it ment fighting against evill forces trying to destroy an entire population remeniscend of holacoust, Ruanda, Srebrenica etc.
Shame on Serbias "justice".
Europe take notice.

thanks to bytyqi brothers and many others heros people in kosovo are enjoing freedom.im proud to be albanian,one of the bravest nation in this planet,REST IN PEACE ALL OUR HEROS.YOUR DREAM OF FREE KOSOVO IS NOW REALITY.

"hey are suspected of handing the Bytyqi brothers over to unknown Interior Ministry officials.." who's going to buy this?

this is serbian propaganda and they think they can get awayu with it.

shame, shame, shame
Serbia just shot itself in the foot big time. Watch and see fellows.
Uncle Sam will raise hell and Serbia is heading towards abyss.
(Kosova-USA, 22 September 2009 15:01)

How do you know this?
American citizens get killed by someone who the police will start looking for. Now these same citizens have committed terrorist acts in another country and you think America will stand up for them? America wants to be seen to be fighting a war on terror not supporting terror.
You Albanians are delusional. You really belive that NATO and America are your personal lackies ready to do your bidding.
How wrong can you be. They only do their bidding.

hear she comes{PEGGY THE SERB LOVER} if you want know there is more serbs immigrants in uk than albanians.and i wish this country throw all the serbs out of uk.they dont deserve our bread,our jobs,our help.if world knows what a serb is will be different picture.the bytyqi brothers left america and come back to their motherland to fight the invaders.all albanian citizens should be proud of this act of heroic.RIP

A fellow KLA soldier who knew them said they did NOT turn over their weapons.

ida, you always amaze me with your off the rocker coments.

Is that fellow KLA soldier friend of your by any chance?
I knew Bytyqi brothers and I know their father very well. They used to live in Long Island, NY. I was there in Yonkers where the ceremony was held for Atlantic Batalion before heading to war in Kosova.
In reality these guys spent a very short time in the battle , becasue the war stopped after Kumanova Agreement.
In reality they were helping ( providing protection)some of their Roma neighbors from angry mobs and took them over the border to Serbia.
They were doing humanaritarian work, rather then trying to invade Serbia as per ida.

shame, shame, shame
Serbia just shot itself in the foot big time. Watch and see fellows.
Uncle Sam will raise hell and Serbia is heading towards abyss.

and that from a cleansed / ds-court, says everything about this honorable man ...

now if the "killers" will be freed too, we finaly have some kind of justice ...

just some kind, as this men did nothing bad and still where tortured for years for doing their duty ...

I thought they got arrested after the war was over.
(David, 22 September 2009 11:23)

Yes David, the war was over and NATO troops were consolidanting their positions throughout Kosova. Otherwise these poor Bytyqi brothers were executed during peacetime.

here is a typical response that we're all so used to seeing...

"how do you know it wasn't ALBANIANS that killed them?"

"Mike's comments to roberto made in Aug. need to be repeated again and again."

-- For the record, my comments/thoughts on roberto still stand, but I need to emphasize that I almost always agree with him when he is theorizing about building democratic civil societies and shared communities. There is nothing there that anyone can disagree with. It's his selective and apparently arbitrary application of said theories that I find dubious and disingenuous.

"jelena_uk my birthplace is northampton,if northampton is in albania then im albanian.according to the english i think i speec better than you love.at least your nick tells everething.truth hurts when i say ur bread,ur jobs,ur help."

The education system must be poor there - or you must have been a school drop out as your writing, spelling and grammar is low quality.

Here's mention of the quote from Isa Kodra, of the Atlantic Brigade, about the brothers:

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j071601.html

The New York Daily News quotes Isa Kodra, a 20-year old Brooklynite who served with the three men: "When NATO said disarm, these three brothers insisted on hiding [their weapons]." The tone of the Daily News piece valorizes the fallen Bytyqi brothers – Agron, Mehmet, and Yli – and we are clearly supposed to admire these Albanian "daredevils."

Isa Kodra, a sergeant in the U.S. National Guard who is volunteering to fight for the Kosovo Liberation Army, stands before his comrades Sunday, April 11,1999, in Yonkers, N.Y. More than 400 recruits were sworn in Sunday and are scheduled to leave later this week on charter flights from New York to Tirana, Albania, from where they hope to join the KLA. (AP Photo/Stephen Chernin)"
(ida, 22 September 2009 14:31)

ida, please bear with me and stop the hatred.
I know who is Isa Kodra, do you??? I will tell you his family history.
Isa is the son of Skender Kodra.skender's origin is from istog Municipality. When I got to USA in 1975, Skender with his two brothers were there and working as Taxi cabs and making good money. Latter on Skender, despite the fact that he was married he got married with second wife(a cafe/bar/hooker) , which he ended up killing her in his own house. I can go on and on , but do not like to bore the readers with this C..P.
I think ida , you should really read the posted coment from Ataman, which I respect his every coment despite the differences of opinion.

What's the big deal? These albanians were mercenaries and they usually get what they deserve.

Don't expect a reply from Roberto: he's a hater and a bigot and such double standards define him.

in racist serbia
(roberto, 22 September 2009 21:56)

1) Roberto, please do not write such things. This way you achieve precisely the opposite what you want. Slamming the entire country - and you cannot even read what other people write on the Serbian part of B92. This way you cement the old habits, not helping anyone a single bit.

2) USA is by no way any less racist that Serbia. We have here one Tim McVeigh in words only, but USA had one in deeds.

While the processes of war crimes in Kosova are transparent and held also by EU judges Serbia remains still the dark corner of our region- the untouchables- from the truth of course.

You Serbs can blame conspiracy the entire world but the fact is that in Kosova every single case was held also by international judges (in UNMIK times) or EU judges today. While you keep yourself in the dark- your justice is interpretable concept.

I guess b92 felt there was no need to explain one more time how Bytici brothers ended into the hands of MUP but even if b92 repeats it, it won’t be enough to our xenophobes here. They can’t even be human and admit that arrested persons who got 15 days of jail during their arrest were executed by Serbian guardians/police officials. It says nothing to them as far as an Albanian has been killed.

RIP, you noble brothers!

"The case of the murder of the three Bytyqi brothers is considered a state crime, and has been further complicated by the fact that the brothers were American citizens" And if they were not american citizens they would have preished into the wind without any issue just as the case of the 12,000 Albanians that were massacred in Kosova.

The serbs should give up their trench men and move forward as they are the ones who are bearing the most pressure in the regions future.

Reading these comments gives one the impression that the overinflated nationalistic machismo of one group being tarnished is the real cause of concern, not the alleged abuse of the Serbian judicial system.

Roberto do you really mean this?
"Some of the comments issued by certain serbian posters are so offensive and dripping with venom as to be almost unreadable. i won't mention individuals but you know who you are. really almost unbearable to read."

Do you mean like this one?

"shame shame shame .they dont realise that every thing that hapend in serbia is in EU and USA record.i wish england killed every illegal serb that entered our country and then send the criminiles free."
(luca_uk, 22 September 2009 16:11)

Isn't luca an Albanian? What do you think of the venom spewed from him? Ah, I get it. Albanians are allowed to spew the venom and you are very happy to tolerate it but God forbid a Serb says anything negative. It becomes unbearable for you.

If this is the case then perhaps you should not come to this site, for the sake of your mental health.

Milan, does it matter if they were UCK members ? have you heard of the term warprisoner?

4. They were Murdered and the evidence is gone.
(BH_NYC, 22 September 2009 16:21)

The evidence is gone from serbian side but not from Albanian side.
According to this very article the interior ministry of then yugoslavia was cooperating with unknown people which means.........!
R.I.P Bytyqi brothers, Kosova and the rest of Albanians will never forget you.

"They were arrested for illegal entry into the then Yugoslavia, sentenced to 15 days in prison in Prokuplje, before being taken to Petrovo Selo four days prior to the end of their prison term and executed. "

Yeah right, aperantly it was terrorists...
Even at a brutal time Serbia couldnt give more than 15 days.
The brothers obviously had no weapons when cought.
And the Serbian judge wants to let criminals free becouse he dosnt know what weapon they used at army baracks to eliminate them.

2. How do we even know now that they were who you say they were (KLA or similar)
3. Are we to take YOUR word for it just because you say so?

(BH_NYC, 22 September 2009 16:21)

This is about the most ridiculous post I have seen in the wile. Don’t some of you Serbian haters read and look at the pictures. KLA just showed up at these guys funeral for the fun of it. Looks to me in the pictures that these guys got full military funeral. So obviously they were KLA terrorists. My be they should of just stayed at home in NY.

shame shame shame .they dont realise that every thing that hapend in serbia is in EU and USA record.i wish england killed every illegal serb that entered our country and then send the criminiles free.
(luca_uk, 22 September 2009 16:11)

If every illegal immigrant deserved to die then UK and other countries would have much less Albanians living there.

Why is it when Serbs are being murdered in Kosovo the police don't even look for any suspects and that seems perfectly fine the the Albanians on this site, but when suspects are found not guilty they are up in arms about it.
Maybe not all who are accused are guilty. Ever stopped to consider that?
Serbia has found many Serbs guilty of war crimes and locked them up, so how can you say that Serbia is not doing it's job?
Until every Serb accused of a crimes is locked up or killed you guys won't be happy.

Not everyone on trial is guilty. Accept that.

Not really sure, what do Albanians expect from Serbia?
I mean come on, mass graves, pizza shop masacres, kids and eldery slaughtered ....

Do they expect justice, truth and rule of law by a country where a good majority of state aparatus has been detained for war crimes related to killing Albanians.

Let them be, just keep in mind to never forget what will happen to you if Serbia rules Kosovo once again...if you want to live, build your own state, your own army, your own justice system, your own institutions, that should be your goal.

shame shame shame .they dont realise that every thing that hapend in serbia is in EU and USA record.i wish england killed every illegal serb that entered our country and then send the criminiles free.

I thought they got arrested after the war was over.

Goran,

I very much disagree. The law is the law and normally there is no such thing as "double jeopardy", you cannot be punished twice for the same crime.

If I decide to rob a bank in Belgrade and while doing it I kill 20 people with my machine gun - that's a crime.

If I court in Belgrade will decide, I am guilty and I have to pay 1000 Dinar fine for that crime: this is the ONLY valid verdict.

You can argue, the punishment is not adequate to the crime. This could be true, but the law is the law. If the judge told, that's the "jedan crveni" for killing 20 people and robbing a bank, than that's it.

And the police has absolutely no right to proceed on their own.

If that wouldn't be the case you cannot argue about 1244 because 1244 is the law, not what Drenica Clan does declare because they got some underhanded support from USA.

In this case we can honestly hope, this is not the end of the case and someone would be find to be guilty beyond reasonable doubt, otherwise it would look pretty ugly.

On 22 September 2009 16:32, SerbianKnight wrote:

"Albanian terrorists should be searched, located, apprehended and liquidated."

I can see that SerbianKnight is all for efficiency. I would thought the proper sequence is searched, located, apprehended, put on trial, and then sentenced in some form, or released.
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The only thing truthful in this verdict is the statement that the Bytyqi brothers were PRISONERS OF WAR (POWs).

Quiet a shame for no jail time to those who killed the Albanians. Next week Tadiq will hand medals to the criminals for the ultimate act of killing Albanians.

Thanks Serbia.

Firstly i congratulate our Serbian judicary system on a welcoming decision.
Secondly I don't understand the Albanian posters on this Serb news site, if you are so disgusted with the Serb population why do you read/comment on our news sites?
I find you repulsive and would never read anything that you have to offer let alone leave a comment!
Read your own news sites and spill your hatred there because we Serbs don't care what you have to say.
Ohh by the way thank you USA/EU for rebuilding our province, it's a nice ploy by the Serb Government. Let them rebuild and than well start governing it once again:)

Don't expect a reply from Roberto: he's a hater and a bigot and such double standards define him.
(Peggy, 23 September 2009 10:23)

There is someone here who is posing as me. This was not written by me although I agree with it.

Some of the comments issued by certain serbian posters are so offensive and dripping with venom as to be almost unreadable. i won't mention individuals but you know who you are. really almost unbearable to read.

the serbian justice system is in big trouble. though to be more accurate, there is no real independent judiciary in serbia -- it does not exist. the only hope is for intl (judicial) intervention. i'm not the first to call for it. otherwise it is hopeless.

some very real questions spring to mind from this decision, and from events of late: is a member of any despised minority safe inside serbia? the answer becomes clearer and clearer.

these days i am in the process of interviewing one of the albanian leaders of the presevo region. the issues continue to nag at me: is it worth pursuing our "multi-cultural" vision of democracy, or should we just accept that albanians in the south have no hope but to align with kosovo/a. i have always resisted such things in the past, spoken extensively against ethnically pure states (so called) and ethnic apartheid. everything inside of me calls out against such concepts. but there is no real attempt inside serbia to progress, except for a tiny group of wonderful, progressive intellectuals, who control nothing.

so either serbia is pushed to make real and dramatic changes, or maybe we'll have to explore other options.

as for the bytyqui brothers, i have the highest respect for them and their families. in racist serbia, you were and are treated like vermin. for for us you are heroes. thank you for your contributions.

roberto, from millions of miles away frisco (thank god!)

When you join a terrorist group dying is a possibility. That anyone was accused of crimes here is ridiculous and strange and I am very very happy the people were found not guilty. I don't care, I say "death to terrorists!"

Very interesting to read the comments. They got what deserved , handcuffed, killed in cold blood, by insane people. For me this is enough to explain to my children, as my parents explained to me, and as their parents explained to them, about the nature and the mentality of Serbs. I will have no difficulties cause there are plently of fresh examples like Bytyqi brothers, Kelmendi and two sons, Berisha family (the terrorists), victim's of Scorpions, victims of Arkan team of death, red beretts, those poor bosnian (fundamentalists) handcuffed, and killed also in cold blood and recorded for memory of good times by the actors of such crime... and so on.

haha shocking! did not see that comming.

pheeew nearly injustice prevailed.

haha

To all the albanians and here i just have a question for you: how often did the KLA terrorists gave a trial to their victims before executing them? You demand to be treated fair but you never do the same so stop crying! i am not suggesting these people should not get a fair trial but its ridiculous to stand and watch albanians screaming for justice, because they dont know the meaning of the word!

Reading these comments gives one the impression that the overinflated nationalistic machismo of one group being tarnished is the real cause of concern, not the alleged abuse of the Serbian judicial system.

(Mike, 22 September 2009 16:27)

Not that bad, the opinion on the Serbian language part of B92 is pretty much divided 50:50. Normally, I would expect 0:100 - but with the war crimes committed by NATO in 1999 that got shifted unfortunately towards as you wrote "nationalistic machismo".

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Sad to see Serbs searching for any excuse, not matter how sickening, in explaining their blatant breach of international law when it comes to its highest principles - that of human rights.

(Ptoleme, 22 September 2009 16:25)

See above and read the Serbian comments on the Serbian part of the B92. It is divided.

However I am not so sure who is more black: kettle or the pot. Because at the time Naser Oric was freed - what we did read here?

And the Albanians who now cry bloody murder - what did they did only few month ago as the "pigeon" part of the "pigeon-snake" Quetzalcoatl was arrested and freed in Bulgaria?

Somehow they see now different, but in the reality they are MUCH WORSE.
We can say, roughly half of the Serbs do sympathize with the victims here and it is genuine. And Albanian comments are welcome on both English and Serbian part of B92.

On the other hand any critics to Drenica gangsters can be done only silently, often in foreign (German) language. Serbia needs a long way to go, but Kosovo with or without Albania has an even longer way.

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If you want to be acquainted with the new laws, read K-Constitution, no need for clan references.

(miri, 22 September 2009 16:49)

Miri,

I am not really curious about chicken-scratch of "pigeons".
Once "pigeon" and "snake" are behind the bars and Kosovars are not (quasi)represented by ones, who has blood and drug money - I will be more welcoming to the "K-Constitution".

Since it's not the case, 1244 is the law and "Kosovo je Srbija"/"Kosova ëshë Serbi" is written in stone.

hey PEGGY ever read your comments after you post them????i tel you what,you deserve a place in tha cabinet if the radical party wins the elections next time.all this hard work you have done so far,even same serbs that have lost member of their family in kosovo dont hate kosovo and albanian as much as you do.that makes albanian even stronger.i guess you are just a serbian immigrant in australia,becouse i never heard australian to be anti-albanian like you are.
(luca_uk, 23 September 2009 09:47)

I don't hate Kosovo at all. The fact that you think I deserve a place in the Radical party is not an insult to me. A political party is just that. They are not a terrorist organisation unlike your beloved Thaci and Ceku.

I don't care if you claim to be English because you claim you were born there, you are still very much Albanian at heart just I am still very much Serbian at heart so what's your point? Why are you trying to fool us that you don't carry Albanianism in your heart?

BTW, Australian government has recognised Kosovo but that does not mean that Australians have love for Albanains. You cannot link the two. Australian government will do whatever US tell it to do, even follow them to war which are clearly a violation of UN. Sort of like recognition of Kosovo was.

This will perhaps go down as just another case of the state apparatus 'unilaterally' exonerating itself. I am sure the ICJ will take into consideration Serbia's current attitude toward Albanians, and why not the attitude of Serbian society as a whole. You people act as if nothing happened in the '90s. Very sad indeed. Serbian justice is an oxymoron. Yet I am still baffled that the likes of Mike, Kate etc don't cry foul play here, but they seem more at ease when to still yell "terrorist!" when Albanians are exonerated by international judges. How odd!

bytici brothers, got justice thath they deserved and no more justice anyone has right to ask! Who takes a sword will die from sword1
(timotimekvej, 22 September 2009 16:51)

- As to posting itself: yes, precisely this mentality will ensure, the Albanian-Serbian conflict will be well and alive in the 31st century.
(Ataman, 22 September 2009 18:43)

Here I must agree with Mr McVeigh .Not only Bytyqi brothers deserved what they got but so will the members of Lakatos,Kolompár and Orsós clans(most extensive criminal gangs in Hungary) who terrorize common people on daily basis.Of course in their case it is more appropriate to write Who takes the knife will die from knife.

The Bytyqi brothers were likely terrorists of some form and may well have committed crimes against Serbian civilians and participated in ethnic cleansing, but now we’ll never know.

I’m absolutely disgusted at the thoughtless execution of prisoners without trial and those that support such behavior (liquidation? That’s just scary as hell). It’s wrong when their side does it, and it’s wrong when our side does it. It’s ALWAYS wrong no matter who does it. “Keeping score” on Who did What\When & How is pointless and leads no where but to more violence. It does NOT justify committing the same crime in retaliation.

A crime certainly took place, someone involved should be punished. Hopefully the prosecution will amend the charges, maybe based on when they dropped them off with “unknown” persons instead of when they picked them up?

However, that being said, I think the guys on trial are most likely minor figures (transporting prisoners) and merely “carrying out orders”.

We need some sort of Truth & Reconciliation commission so that we can work through these types of things and find the missing and know what actually happened. Give these guys and others like them amnesty and really just go ahead the really bad guys.

Ohh by the way thank you USA/EU for rebuilding our province, it's a nice ploy by the Serb Government. Let them rebuild and than well start governing it once again:)
(AdamSRB, 23 September 2009 02:43)

You mean, so you can burn it down and destroy it once again??!!

Adrian Kola
"Moreover, even if they had been captured in combat conditions, POW rules should have applied. But obviously it is very clear that the terrorist state of Serbia has no regard for such rules or regulations and refuses to sentence its criminals for atrocious crimes."

Just for your information:
To qualify under the Third Geneva Convention, a combatant must have conducted military operations according to the laws and customs of war, be part of a chain of command, wear a "fixed distinctive marking, visible from a distance" and bear arms openly. Thus, uniforms and/or badges are important in determining prisoner-of-war status; and francs-tireurs, terrorists, saboteurs, mercenaries and spies do not qualify.

To all Albanians in this site I have one thing to say to you, stop bs-ing here and get a life if you are trying to get to the Serbs soul or understanding you are out of your freaking mind because they have none of those.

"in racist serbia, you were and are treated like vermin. for for us you are heroes. thank you for your contributions."

While roberto clearly is not the only one, he's a perfect example of someone who

a) apparently didn't read the article beyond the title

and

b) used his own selective memories to reach conclusions of what he honestly believes to be racism and ammoral filth on the other side.

The article does not say that the ACTUAL indicted murderers were acquitted. It only said that two people who were potential accomplices in the murder were acquitted. This does not mean that the murders were given their walking papers. It simply means that two lower level guards are not responsible for a crime that is STILL unresolved.

But of course if you read the comments here, you'd be pretty sure that over half the Albanians didn't read the article and felt the need to mash out some over-the-top glorification for three people simply because of the fact that they are Albanian. Does it matter who they are? No. Does it matter what they did? No. Does it matter what they were arrested for? No. Does it matter that they even DID anything noble in life? No. All that matters is that three UCK terrorists/freedom fighters were martyred/killed by Serbian thugs/soldiers and can now go down in history as martyrs of the nation/3 dumb seljaci.

Albanians and their supporters love to lambast Serbs and their apparent allies as intoxicated with historical revisionism, over the top exaggerations of self-importance, and a complete denial of any wrongdoing in life. I really wonder if any of them realize they engage in these very vocations on a daily basis, or if they just think their own selective memories are somehow normatively better.

Instead of a series of comments that talk about whether or not two Serbs were responsible for the deaths of 3 Albanians, the comments have devolved (quite quickly on both sides) into whether these three people were the greatest Albanian heroes since Skanderbeg, or just three Albanian American terrorists who paid the price for playing with guns.

Accusations of both sides continue to fly, and in order to make one's own side feel somewhat superior, the only solution many see is to compltely denigrate the other side.

Obviously there's three sides to this story:

1. "Our" side (which of course is completely true, even though its heavily laden with signs of historical justification, entitlement, and moral righteousness, but hey, I love my country and my people).

2. "Their" side (which is nothing but lies, propaganda, revisionism, and selective memories because they have no morals or souls).

3. The "objective" side, which of course is rarely, if ever, considered because it requires one to actually admit their own side has damnable evidence and the other side might actually have a valid point (and why would we want to do that? That would mean accepting that my own side isn't completely awesome).

Were the roles reversed and this were another story of some KPS cop arresting some Serb, the justice system would "obviously" be working (because if you honestly believe the "other" side is comprised of little more than orcs, you're going to reach such stupid conclusions).

(Nelli_currently in beautiful KosovA, 22 September
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(usaSERB, 22 September 2009 18:05)

Things aren't as simple as you might think. The picture doesn't prove anything. If they had been active KLA members I doubt it that they would have been executed, but they would have used them to their advantage for various TV interviews. What probably happened was: they were interrogated, tortured, nothing was found to justify torture and they had to eliminate them.

hey PEGGY ever read your comments after you post them????i tel you what,you deserve a place in tha cabinet if the radical party wins the elections next time.all this hard work you have done so far,even same serbs that have lost member of their family in kosovo dont hate kosovo and albanian as much as you do.that makes albanian even stronger.i guess you are just a serbian immigrant in australia,becouse i never heard australian to be anti-albanian like you are.

2) I suppose, Mosad should punish the terrorists and the bandits to their likening, disregarding any Israeli court order. Any objection?
(Ataman, 22 September 2009 21:56)

Well that is not the best example since the organization mentioned by you itself has strong terrorist roots and long history of fighting freedom fighters in the most brutal way .Once again israelis are the kosovo albanians of the middle east who bacame the majority by similar multi-step ethnic cleansing .

What probably happened was: they were interrogated, tortured, nothing was found to justify torture and they had to eliminate them.
(BH_NYC, 23 September 2009 09:38)

Nothing exceptional with that, that was the "normal" procedure in every socialist country. It's not anti-Albanian in particular, just very much of a Stalinist style. Any Serb, Hungarian, Russian, etc. who got in trouble would be in the same situation. If anything found what resembles guilt = show trial. If not guilty and useless for a show trial = kill them silently.

Since it's not the case, 1244 is the law and "Kosovo je Srbija"/"Kosova ëshë Serbi" is written in stone.
(Ataman, 22 September 2009 17:56)

The only "stone" you can talk about is your head.
"Serbia është Rusi"

Well you travel from the US to visit Yugoslavia, but you enter the country illegally and you end up dead. Well i guess when come to join a insurgency then you become a victim of chance. Better to stay in the US and live you life instead of going to join a cause and die for what? Nothing.

Everything seems so hopelessly black/white. The hatred between ALBANIANS-SERBS will last forever. Regarding the verdict: i read some serb comments who thought that they might be killed by albanians. I wonder how albanians during 97-99 war were able to go to prokuplje prison and transfer the brothrts yo int.min.memberd. Everybody knows ot was almost impossible to ho from prishtona to prizren let alone ho to serbia. It is time for evety onr to wake ip and see the real trueth. Things have changed. Today KOSOVA is an independent country. Serbia should come clean with itself amd publicly appologize for the pain they caused in the balkans. Tadic wad a brave man when he publicly expressed regret to the victims of srebrenica.

bytici brothers, got justice thath they deserved and no more justice anyone has right to ask! Who takes a sword will die from sword1
(timotimekvej, 22 September 2009 16:51)

- I would probably not post under "timotimekvej" or, better, Tim McVeigh nick anything because not sure that blowing up the Murrah building in Oklahoma and killing few hundred people was okay.

- As to posting itself: yes, precisely this mentality will ensure, the Albanian-Serbian conflict will be well and alive in the 31st century. You will argue about opanak and fustanella at the time others will send a space mission to an other Galaxy.

I remember Albanian postings as Ceku was in Bulgaria. They should not complain, they were 100% the same like many Serbians here. Except, that not a single Albanian took the stance what roughly 50% of Serbs did on the Serbian part of B92.

(szemi, 22 September 2009 23:38)

Szemi don't lecture us with SANU propaganda from 70s-90s, we all know the REAL TRUTH.

think, in the case of many "politicians" of former YU - and that does not include well-known criminals like Arkan - even their cause was rotten, not just the methods. I think, no side of the conflict was "clean".
(Ataman, 23 September 2009 23:04)

conflicts/wars and clean are two words that will never go together....
And btw, thanks for your comments, always a pleasure to read them

Wow, you explained quite a lot about the general Serbian feeling towards this (and other) case.

You're missing one important fact. These three ‘terrorist’ brothers were unarmed and posed no threat to anyone when executed. Remember, they were arrested, then handed over to be Murdered.
1. Een if they were involved with KLA, they should have been tried and sentenced.
2. How do we even know now that they were who you say they were (KLA or similar)
3. Are we to take YOUR word for it just because you say so?
4. They were Murdered and the evidence is gone.
(BH_NYC, 22 September 2009 16:21)


1. Yeah, just like everyone at guantanamo bay, not to mention the countless number of serbs in the hague.

2. I know who that they are KLA judging by their funeral with the UCK emblem above.

3.Are we to take your word just because you say so? are we to take the word of the americans and the rest just because they say so? i dont expect anyone to take my word, but i hope they look at my points.

4.Milosevic was murdered before he could stand trial, how many others were as well...how about all the serbs in kosovo since 1999 that have been murdered without any sort of investigation launched?

"- As to posting itself: yes, precisely this mentality will ensure, the Albanian-Serbian conflict will be well and alive in the 31st century.
(Ataman, 22 September 2009 18:43)"

Absolutely right Ataman. I forgot to add that to my own useful/useless rant a few minutes ago. The comments here on both sides are exceptionally crude and only exacerbates each side to reinforce their own narratives of selective historical memory.

Since it's not the case, 1244 is the law and "Kosovo je Srbija"/"Kosova ëshë Serbi" is written in stone.
(Ataman, 22 September 2009 17:56)

Sounds bombastic, but not correct and you know it the best.
(miri, 23 September 2009 19:48)

Technically and legally it is correct, but I do not know, how ICJ will rule.
Regardless, how they rule this all is theory and there won't be a good solution till both Serbs and Albanians do not feel, they are winners.

IMO, the only just solution would be a state union between Tirana and Belgrade as one country. Kosovo is a tough thing because it is Serbia but it is Albania, sometimes depending on the street. Just division is impossible, someone will be a "minority" and by smallest incident cry bloody murder.

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Up to you, but so much negative feeling is really not good and it will bite you back somehow.
(miri, 23 September 2009 19:48)

This is incorrect about negative feelings. A small proof: the cake on my b-day was Albanian. If I would hate Albanians, probably I won't buy a b-day cake for myself.

Proof (what remained from that cake):

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1273/torta.jpg

It was "smuggled" to Hungary last week and of course was eaten quickly.

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I feel somewhat guilty for the "head-stone" tough, I should not say it.
(miri, 23 September 2009 19:48)

No problem here, but while I am officially "pro-Serbian", I am not necessarily anti-Albanian. I have zero sympathy for Drenica clan. But not much for Zemun clan either.

You will be hard-pressed to find a single bitter word from me about Albin Kurti, Veton Surroi or Vlora Citaku.

If you admire some other names I do not want to mention - that is up to you. My opinion on that is that the cause should not justify the methods and I apply it to everyone. I think, in the case of many "politicians" of former YU - and that does not include well-known criminals like Arkan - even their cause was rotten, not just the methods. I think, no side of the conflict was "clean".

"I think, in the case of many "politicians" of former YU - and that does not include well-known criminals like Arkan"

Sorry not to be clear - I re-read my message, I mean, that Arkan wasn't even a politician to a smallest degree, just plainly a (petty) criminal from begin, "advancing" to a major criminal and he is not worth to be considered.

Denis hello dont state the obvious i know KLA didnt had any state institutions (since it was a guerrilla force)but its not an excuse and i dont think that even if he had such institutions he would give anyone a fair trial.
I am not orthodox or religious and i am sure you dont know what 17 November organization is (leftist terror organization)-no relation with SRP and this organization is dissolved and its members arrested. Now the problem we have is albanian mafia and albanian criminals who kill old ladies for 10 euro. i suggest you concentrate in countries that anyone can open military warehouses and sell Kalashnikov automatic rifles for 25$ (is postage included Denis?) all over the balkans. cheers

Justice privailed.A good message to politically correct self-destroying europe:terrorists and bandits must be punished and not those who hunt for them.
(szemi, 22 September 2009 15:56)

1) Not just that, but they conspired with well-known dangerous Albanian terrorist, Miroslav Mitrovic. Everyone knows, Miroslav Mitrovic being the most dangerous UCK commander. Just please read how they did help Mitrovic family to move from Prizren to Kraljevo, that's how they got in trouble.

2) I suppose, Mosad should punish the terrorists and the bandits to their likening, disregarding any Israeli court order. Any objection?

jelena_uk my birthplace is northampton,if northampton is in albania then im albanian.according to the english i think i speec better than you love.at least your nick tells everething.truth hurts when i say ur bread,ur jobs,ur help.

The only "stone" you can talk about is your head.
"Serbia është Rusi"
(miri, 23 September 2009 16:21)

I don't remember, I ever attacked you in person, except the single "fire extinguisher" but that was very indirect and you know precisely why. Reciprocity is appreciated but not demanded.

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"Serbia është Rusi"
(miri, 23 September 2009 16:21)

Sounds bombastic, but not correct and you know it the best.

Otherwise it is unclear, what you wanted to say here. Up to you, but so much negative feeling is really not good and it will bite you back somehow. Do not want to lecture you, you know better what you doing. Just a little bit less offense.

I feel somewhat guilty for the "fire extinguisher" tough, I should not say it.

Since it's not the case, 1244 is the law and "Kosovo je Srbija"/"Kosova ëshë Serbi" is written in stone.
(Ataman, 22 September 2009 17:56)

Sounds bombastic, but not correct and you know it the best.

Otherwise it is unclear, what you wanted to say here. Up to you, but so much negative feeling is really not good and it will bite you back somehow. Do not want to lecture you, you know better what you doing. Just a little bit less offense.

I feel somewhat guilty for the "head-stone" tough, I should not say it.

PS: Just to give you a flavor on how it feels to reading your comments.

To all the albanians and here i just have a question for you: how often did the KLA terrorists gave a trial to their victims before executing them? You demand to be treated fair but you never do the same so stop crying! i am not suggesting these people should not get a fair trial but its ridiculous to stand and watch albanians screaming for justice, because they dont know the meaning of the word!
(Nikos, 24 September 2009 15:45)

Nikos, this is not your piece of pie bro, why are you jumping to grab it? Just enjoy the billions you received from EU, while you drink coffee and dance in buzukis.

And yeah, maybe out of brotherly love you just equalized Serbian state with KLA "terrorists", since according to you none of them gave each other a fair trial. But KLA was a guerrilla force, and not a regular army. K-Alb did not have state institutions to trial any of serbian terrorists, and control individual actions of some KLA members (if ever happened). The KLA was not a direct representative of the will of K-Alb, Rugova was, but the KLA was a problem solver. Serbian terrorist state was though, the representative of the will of Serbian people. So you do the math.....

Maybe you want to join Serbs in a union and create your orthodox brotherly love state, maybe November 17 organization (world known as terrorist organization) will join the radical party of Serbia as well, for an all time peace process in the Balkans.

Even DEATH SENTENCE would not be enough for these super terrorists.

What's makes worse is the fact that they are just drop in ocean, their collegues are even worse than them.

Serbia will give them some moderate sentences for the sake of internationals, and as soon as the trial ends, in a matter of days they will be set free, rewarded, and called upon to populate jails ONLY when internatioals agencies attempt to make potential inspections (if the latter bother to do so)...

Government cannot convict people who followed the instructions of that very same government.

Hypocracy at its best.

A fellow KLA soldier who knew them said they did NOT turn over their weapons.

ida, you always amaze me with your off the rocker coments.

Is that fellow KLA soldier friend of your by any chance?
I knew Bytyqi brothers and I know their father very well. They used to live in Long Island, NY. I was there in Yonkers where the ceremony was held for Atlantic Batalion before heading to war in Kosova.
In reality these guys spent a very short time in the battle , becasue the war stopped after Kumanova Agreement.
In reality they were helping ( providing protection)some of their Roma neighbors from angry mobs and took them over the border to Serbia.
They were doing humanaritarian work, rather then trying to invade Serbia as per ida.

"They were arrested for illegal entry into the then Yugoslavia, sentenced to 15 days in prison in Prokuplje, before being taken to Petrovo Selo four days prior to the end of their prison term and executed. "

Yeah right, aperantly it was terrorists...
Even at a brutal time Serbia couldnt give more than 15 days.
The brothers obviously had no weapons when cought.
And the Serbian judge wants to let criminals free becouse he dosnt know what weapon they used at army baracks to eliminate them.

Sentence this criminals to death will not be enough. Cowards should be hanged in the middle of the street's so everybody can see how weak they are. But I know it wont help because the serbian goverment and the people in Serbia adore this guy's. They are heros just like Mladic when he killed 8000 young people in Srbrenica.

Don't forget that this criminals worked for the state of Serbia. And their collegues still work there with dirty hands.


proud to be a serbian ,ah ?

I thought they got arrested after the war was over.
(David, 22 September 2009 11:23)

Yes David, the war was over and NATO troops were consolidanting their positions throughout Kosova. Otherwise these poor Bytyqi brothers were executed during peacetime.

If that wouldn't be the case you cannot argue about 1244 because 1244 is the law, not what Drenica Clan does declare because they got some underhanded support from USA.

Once upon a time, the law was that Kosova was an integral and respected autonomous part of Yugo with equal rights as the rest of the consecutive members of federation. Being fired for being Albanian was against the law. Being beaten up for being Albanian was also against the law. Being killed and expunged for being Albanian was also against a law, until all thesed changed to the convenience of your slav brothers.
It's time for new laws. The old ones (including your favorite 1244) have long outlived their usefulness. If you want to be acquainted with the new laws, read K-Constitution, no need for clan references.

shame, shame, shame
Serbia just shot itself in the foot big time. Watch and see fellows.
Uncle Sam will raise hell and Serbia is heading towards abyss.

Milan, does it matter if they were UCK members ? have you heard of the term warprisoner?

They were freed!!!Thanks god!
As for the bytiqys,they were UCK terrorists and got what they were looking for.

Sad to see Serbs searching for any excuse, not matter how sickening, in explaining their blatant breach of international law when it comes to its highest principles - that of human rights.

It is a travesty that on Serbian land there are organized funerals with terrorist insignia engraved on tombstones.

Albanian terrorists should be searched, located, apprehended and liquidated.

I am not surprised at all with this decision. Serbian state still commits crimes against humanity by upholding thousands of uncovered and still missing bodies of Kosovars killed in the '90s. Why should we expect this state to punish the crime of its own? We should not. Kosovars bow to the graves of the heroes who fought the tirany and made it possible for Kosovars to have their own state now. God bless them all!

Bytuqi brothers were terrorists! I wonder how they would be treated in other countries like in Israel or USA.

shame shame shame .they dont realise that every thing that hapend in serbia is in EU and USA record.i wish england killed every illegal serb that entered our country and then send the criminiles free.

Way to go Serbia, this is what you needed, the West was already having a field day with hooligans, tourist beatings and now letting war criminals free:

Deutche Press: " The bodies of the Bitici brothers were found atop a mass grave near a police commando compound at Petrovo Selo in eastern Serbia, in 2001.

The investigation determined that they were executed three days after they were led out of the prison, killed with their hands cuffed behind their backs with shots to the back of their heads.

There were 67 more bodies buried beneath them at Petrovo Selo. The others were Kosovo Albanians killed in their villages during the war, then brought for mass burials in Serbia proper in a bid by Slobodan Milosevic's regime to hide atrocities.

Several more mass graves of Albanians were found in 2001 and 2002, the largest of them, with nearly 900 bodies, discovered at another police compound, in Batajnica on the outskirts of Belgrade. "

These were AMERICAN citizens, it ain't over yet!

"hey are suspected of handing the Bytyqi brothers over to unknown Interior Ministry officials.." who's going to buy this?

this is serbian propaganda and they think they can get awayu with it.

Some of the comments issued by certain serbian posters are so offensive and dripping with venom as to be almost unreadable. i won't mention individuals but you know who you are. really almost unbearable to read.

the serbian justice system is in big trouble. though to be more accurate, there is no real independent judiciary in serbia -- it does not exist. the only hope is for intl (judicial) intervention. i'm not the first to call for it. otherwise it is hopeless.

some very real questions spring to mind from this decision, and from events of late: is a member of any despised minority safe inside serbia? the answer becomes clearer and clearer.

these days i am in the process of interviewing one of the albanian leaders of the presevo region. the issues continue to nag at me: is it worth pursuing our "multi-cultural" vision of democracy, or should we just accept that albanians in the south have no hope but to align with kosovo/a. i have always resisted such things in the past, spoken extensively against ethnically pure states (so called) and ethnic apartheid. everything inside of me calls out against such concepts. but there is no real attempt inside serbia to progress, except for a tiny group of wonderful, progressive intellectuals, who control nothing.

so either serbia is pushed to make real and dramatic changes, or maybe we'll have to explore other options.

as for the bytyqui brothers, i have the highest respect for them and their families. in racist serbia, you were and are treated like vermin. for for us you are heroes. thank you for your contributions.

roberto, from millions of miles away frisco (thank god!)

This is gross miscarriage of justice by a state which overtly sponsored and continues to sponsor terrorism. It is clear that the criminals who shot the Bytyqi brothers enjoy protection from top members of the Serbian 'state' and it is also very clear that a guilty sentence would have opened a Pandora's box. It was therefore a political decision.
The Bytyqi brothers were killed after the war in Kosovo ended and they were unlawfully murdered in non-combat conditions. Moreover, even if they had been captured in combat conditions, POW rules should have applied. But obviously it is very clear that the terrorist state of Serbia has no regard for such rules or regulations and refuses to sentence its criminals for atrocious crimes.
SHAME ON YOU!

While the processes of war crimes in Kosova are transparent and held also by EU judges Serbia remains still the dark corner of our region- the untouchables- from the truth of course.

You Serbs can blame conspiracy the entire world but the fact is that in Kosova every single case was held also by international judges (in UNMIK times) or EU judges today. While you keep yourself in the dark- your justice is interpretable concept.

I guess b92 felt there was no need to explain one more time how Bytici brothers ended into the hands of MUP but even if b92 repeats it, it won’t be enough to our xenophobes here. They can’t even be human and admit that arrested persons who got 15 days of jail during their arrest were executed by Serbian guardians/police officials. It says nothing to them as far as an Albanian has been killed.

RIP, you noble brothers!

bytici brothers, got justice thath they deserved and no more justice anyone has right to ask! Who takes a sword will die from sword1

Yeah right, aperantly it was terrorists...
Even at a brutal time Serbia couldnt give more than 15 days.
The brothers obviously had no weapons when cought.
And the Serbian judge wants to let criminals free becouse he dosnt know what weapon they used at army baracks to eliminate them.
(troika melb, 22 September 2009 10:35)

Do You see their funeral?? Do You see UCK emblem over coffins?? If they were not UCK (terrorist force) members, so why their funeral was in guard of UCK members and with UCK emblems??

Bytyqi brothers died for a noble cause. Long live their memory in the hearts of any decent person. Their life and that of 10k others did not end in vain. We bow with respect in front of their graves as we confirm everyday that their dream came true, a free and independent Kosova. They are our heroes who came from all over the Atlantic to protect the innocent people form the likes of Arkan.

As per Serb authorities, no one expects any better. Luckily this picture of Serb injustice has been painted all over the international arena. Remember Mladic or more recently Kovasevic?

"They were doing humanaritarian work, rather then trying to invade Serbia as per ida.
(Kosova-USA, 22 September 2009 13:29) "

hahaha humanitarian work, good one. Coffins covered in american flags, very touching. Maybe they were even involved in organ harvesting of innocent kidnapped Serbs.

Just want to say thanks to these brave soldiers; who went to fight in Kosmet to protect Serbs from these uck terrorists. Can you imagine, they went to another country to kill Serbs? And this is who nato supported, absolute disgrace! If only the world public knew what america did.

Yeah, there is no verdict in Bytyqi case! No big deal; would the Serbian campus say. Three Albanians more, murdered. It is not in any case the figure which would make them feel happy. We are aware of the fact. However, they’ve been constantly proving something that Serbian diplomacy tries to conceal for a long time; that is the fact that Albanians were killed systematically without any legal procedure. In other words the hatred against anything with the prefix Alb has blinded the above mentioned. Feeling happy for the fact that some killers are sticking around unpunished for their crimes, would sooner or latter turn out to become a boomerang. Remember, the coldblooded murderers never change their attitude. Kosovo is now independent, and we aren’t so naïve to think that we could have gained independence without victims, and as far as I am concerned, the verdict bought was not surprise at all. It is rather the confirmation of the destructive Serbian opinion towards reality.

Ohh by the way thank you USA/EU for rebuilding our province, it's a nice ploy by the Serb Government. Let them rebuild and than well start governing it once again:)
(AdamSRB, 23 September 2009 02:43)

You mean, so you can burn it down and destroy it once again??!!

Isa Kodra, a sergeant in the U.S. National Guard who is volunteering to fight for the Kosovo Liberation Army, stands before his comrades Sunday, April 11,1999, in Yonkers, N.Y. More than 400 recruits were sworn in Sunday and are scheduled to leave later this week on charter flights from New York to Tirana, Albania, from where they hope to join the KLA. (AP Photo/Stephen Chernin)"
(ida, 22 September 2009 14:31)

ida, please bear with me and stop the hatred.
I know who is Isa Kodra, do you??? I will tell you his family history.
Isa is the son of Skender Kodra.skender's origin is from istog Municipality. When I got to USA in 1975, Skender with his two brothers were there and working as Taxi cabs and making good money. Latter on Skender, despite the fact that he was married he got married with second wife(a cafe/bar/hooker) , which he ended up killing her in his own house. I can go on and on , but do not like to bore the readers with this C..P.
I think ida , you should really read the posted coment from Ataman, which I respect his every coment despite the differences of opinion.

"The case of the murder of the three Bytyqi brothers is considered a state crime, and has been further complicated by the fact that the brothers were American citizens" And if they were not american citizens they would have preished into the wind without any issue just as the case of the 12,000 Albanians that were massacred in Kosova.

The serbs should give up their trench men and move forward as they are the ones who are bearing the most pressure in the regions future.

jelena_uk my birthplace is northampton,if northampton is in albania then im albanian.according to the english i think i speec better than you love.at least your nick tells everething.truth hurts when i say ur bread,ur jobs,ur help.

I, for the life of me, cannot draw myself to even begin to comprehend the stupidity by which the albanians on this site are united.

I'll paint a picture for you. These bytyqi brothers were part of the atlantic brigade - a subdivision of the KLA. The KLA was branded a terrorist organisation by the Americans. These brothers travelled to then Yugoslavia in order to join the other KLA fighters in Kosovo.

A very famous case, that of convicted terrorist and former guantanamo bay detainee - David Hicks should be brought to the attention of all of the commentors on this site. David Hicks, an Australian, was sent to guantanamo bay after being caught during a raid on a taliban location. He was an Australian citizen who went to fight for the taliban (taliban being a terrorist organisation according to the Americans).

Key point being he was an Australian citizen who travelled to another country in order to fight against the troops that were stationed there - i.e. the Australians. His citizenship was immediately cancelled and a warrant for his arrest was put out by the Australian Federal Police.

So how is it possible for you albanians to try and justify the same actions. These men were clearly KLA - as the picture above the article shows.

The KLA were branded terrorists, so therefore these men were terrorists. They joined a terrorist organisation thus they forfeited their American citizenships. They travelled to the former Yugoslavia in order to fight against the Serbian forces in Kosovo.

The KLA (Kosovo Liberation Army) was a separatist movement with the goal of seperating Kosovo from Serbia. The Serbians declared war on the KLA because of this. Thus the KLA were a threat to national security. These men were dealt with accordingly.




Dear B92 Moderator - Please feel free to change whatever you do not agree with. I am quite sure that my comment meets the required guidelines by all means and does not require alteration.

Thank you.

hear she comes{PEGGY THE SERB LOVER} if you want know there is more serbs immigrants in uk than albanians.and i wish this country throw all the serbs out of uk.they dont deserve our bread,our jobs,our help.if world knows what a serb is will be different picture.the bytyqi brothers left america and come back to their motherland to fight the invaders.all albanian citizens should be proud of this act of heroic.RIP

These brothers were mercenaries and were involved in killing and ethnically cleansing Serbs in Kosovo, then they went into Serbia to start troubles.

A fellow KLA soldier who knew them said they did NOT turn over their weapons.

They were the terrorists invading another country. I'm glad they were killed. Only too bad it wasn't in combat or some accident so we don't have all this circus and hyped press.

2. How do we even know now that they were who you say they were (KLA or similar)
3. Are we to take YOUR word for it just because you say so?

(BH_NYC, 22 September 2009 16:21)

This is about the most ridiculous post I have seen in the wile. Don’t some of you Serbian haters read and look at the pictures. KLA just showed up at these guys funeral for the fun of it. Looks to me in the pictures that these guys got full military funeral. So obviously they were KLA terrorists. My be they should of just stayed at home in NY.

thanks to bytyqi brothers and many others heros people in kosovo are enjoing freedom.im proud to be albanian,one of the bravest nation in this planet,REST IN PEACE ALL OUR HEROS.YOUR DREAM OF FREE KOSOVO IS NOW REALITY.

shame, shame, shame
Serbia just shot itself in the foot big time. Watch and see fellows.
Uncle Sam will raise hell and Serbia is heading towards abyss.
(Kosova-USA, 22 September 2009 15:01)

How do you know this?
American citizens get killed by someone who the police will start looking for. Now these same citizens have committed terrorist acts in another country and you think America will stand up for them? America wants to be seen to be fighting a war on terror not supporting terror.
You Albanians are delusional. You really belive that NATO and America are your personal lackies ready to do your bidding.
How wrong can you be. They only do their bidding.

hey PEGGY ever read your comments after you post them????i tel you what,you deserve a place in tha cabinet if the radical party wins the elections next time.all this hard work you have done so far,even same serbs that have lost member of their family in kosovo dont hate kosovo and albanian as much as you do.that makes albanian even stronger.i guess you are just a serbian immigrant in australia,becouse i never heard australian to be anti-albanian like you are.

American albanians who came to the Serbian province Kosovo to kill innocent Serbs! They themselves ended up dead and now this is a crime! Please! Perhaps the death of these brothers spared the lives of Serbs who they never got the oportunity to hurt or kill.

haha shocking! did not see that comming.

pheeew nearly injustice prevailed.

haha

(Goran, 22 September 2009 14:32)

Wow, you explained quite a lot about the general Serbian feeling towards this (and other) case.

You're missing one important fact. These three ‘terrorist’ brothers were unarmed and posed no threat to anyone when executed. Remember, they were arrested, then handed over to be Murdered.
1. Een if they were involved with KLA, they should have been tried and sentenced.
2. How do we even know now that they were who you say they were (KLA or similar)
3. Are we to take YOUR word for it just because you say so?
4. They were Murdered and the evidence is gone.

To all Albanians in this site I have one thing to say to you, stop bs-ing here and get a life if you are trying to get to the Serbs soul or understanding you are out of your freaking mind because they have none of those.

"Americans" who join a foreign army or military force automatically renounce their citizenship and forfeit all rights and priveleges thereof. Their former citizenship should in no way 'complicate' this case. Just like the 'America' Adam Ghadan who joined the Taliban. Best left to water boarding and Guantanamo Bay.

"They were doing humanaritarian work, rather then trying to invade Serbia as per ida."
Kosova-USA

Ha ha ha! Humanitarian work! With AK-47s and handgranades!

Justice privailed.A good message to politically correct self-destroying europe:terrorists and bandits must be punished and not those who hunt for them.

and that from a cleansed / ds-court, says everything about this honorable man ...

now if the "killers" will be freed too, we finaly have some kind of justice ...

just some kind, as this men did nothing bad and still where tortured for years for doing their duty ...

What's the big deal? These albanians were mercenaries and they usually get what they deserve.

(Nelli_currently in beautiful KosovA, 22 September
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(usaSERB, 22 September 2009 18:05)

Things aren't as simple as you might think. The picture doesn't prove anything. If they had been active KLA members I doubt it that they would have been executed, but they would have used them to their advantage for various TV interviews. What probably happened was: they were interrogated, tortured, nothing was found to justify torture and they had to eliminate them.

Everything seems so hopelessly black/white. The hatred between ALBANIANS-SERBS will last forever. Regarding the verdict: i read some serb comments who thought that they might be killed by albanians. I wonder how albanians during 97-99 war were able to go to prokuplje prison and transfer the brothrts yo int.min.memberd. Everybody knows ot was almost impossible to ho from prishtona to prizren let alone ho to serbia. It is time for evety onr to wake ip and see the real trueth. Things have changed. Today KOSOVA is an independent country. Serbia should come clean with itself amd publicly appologize for the pain they caused in the balkans. Tadic wad a brave man when he publicly expressed regret to the victims of srebrenica.

Here's mention of the quote from Isa Kodra, of the Atlantic Brigade, about the brothers:

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j071601.html

The New York Daily News quotes Isa Kodra, a 20-year old Brooklynite who served with the three men: "When NATO said disarm, these three brothers insisted on hiding [their weapons]." The tone of the Daily News piece valorizes the fallen Bytyqi brothers – Agron, Mehmet, and Yli – and we are clearly supposed to admire these Albanian "daredevils."

4. They were Murdered and the evidence is gone.
(BH_NYC, 22 September 2009 16:21)

The evidence is gone from serbian side but not from Albanian side.
According to this very article the interior ministry of then yugoslavia was cooperating with unknown people which means.........!
R.I.P Bytyqi brothers, Kosova and the rest of Albanians will never forget you.

Miri,

Now you need to look at your pants and look for a fire extinguisher.
Why not use the same standard towards everyone?

Bytyqi brothers died for a noble cause.
(miri, 22 September 2009 15:39)

That case was anything, but noble. It was about destruction. The prime target were different Serbian institutions, often civil. Not Milosevic directly and his satraps. And do not forget - the now-beloved Milo Djukanovic was his main satrap. How come, Albanians like that guy so much now?

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Long live their memory in the hearts of any decent person.
(miri, 22 September 2009 15:39)

They are victims, indeed and will be remembered as such. May they rest in peace.

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Their life and that of 10k others did not end in vain.
(miri, 22 September 2009 15:39)

And how many innocent lives that monster Quetzalcoatl did take? You know, the Aztec "pigeon-snake" god who feeds on human organs?

And Naser Oric?

As long as there are who worship these monsters and judges who set these monsters free - well, you see the result. All war criminals need to be locked up, regardless of nationality, religion.

This verdict shows the true face of Serbia today not much different then Serbia of Yesterday.
i was lucky to have fought side by side with Bytyqi Brothers and i got to know them very well, they were humanists in a true sense of the word they loved people and could not stand the Genocide in Kosova, they fought to stop the war, stop the mass killings of inocent civilians.
they were not blinded by hate or extreme nationalism all they wanted to do was help even if it ment fighting against evill forces trying to destroy an entire population remeniscend of holacoust, Ruanda, Srebrenica etc.
Shame on Serbias "justice".
Europe take notice.

Very interesting to read the comments. They got what deserved , handcuffed, killed in cold blood, by insane people. For me this is enough to explain to my children, as my parents explained to me, and as their parents explained to them, about the nature and the mentality of Serbs. I will have no difficulties cause there are plently of fresh examples like Bytyqi brothers, Kelmendi and two sons, Berisha family (the terrorists), victim's of Scorpions, victims of Arkan team of death, red beretts, those poor bosnian (fundamentalists) handcuffed, and killed also in cold blood and recorded for memory of good times by the actors of such crime... and so on.

Not really sure, what do Albanians expect from Serbia?
I mean come on, mass graves, pizza shop masacres, kids and eldery slaughtered ....

Do they expect justice, truth and rule of law by a country where a good majority of state aparatus has been detained for war crimes related to killing Albanians.

Let them be, just keep in mind to never forget what will happen to you if Serbia rules Kosovo once again...if you want to live, build your own state, your own army, your own justice system, your own institutions, that should be your goal.

Since it's not the case, 1244 is the law and "Kosovo je Srbija"/"Kosova ëshë Serbi" is written in stone.
(Ataman, 22 September 2009 17:56)

The only "stone" you can talk about is your head.
"Serbia është Rusi"

shame shame shame .they dont realise that every thing that hapend in serbia is in EU and USA record.i wish england killed every illegal serb that entered our country and then send the criminiles free.
(luca_uk, 22 September 2009 16:11)

If every illegal immigrant deserved to die then UK and other countries would have much less Albanians living there.

Why is it when Serbs are being murdered in Kosovo the police don't even look for any suspects and that seems perfectly fine the the Albanians on this site, but when suspects are found not guilty they are up in arms about it.
Maybe not all who are accused are guilty. Ever stopped to consider that?
Serbia has found many Serbs guilty of war crimes and locked them up, so how can you say that Serbia is not doing it's job?
Until every Serb accused of a crimes is locked up or killed you guys won't be happy.

Not everyone on trial is guilty. Accept that.

Since it's not the case, 1244 is the law and "Kosovo je Srbija"/"Kosova ëshë Serbi" is written in stone.
(Ataman, 22 September 2009 17:56)

Sounds bombastic, but not correct and you know it the best.

Otherwise it is unclear, what you wanted to say here. Up to you, but so much negative feeling is really not good and it will bite you back somehow. Do not want to lecture you, you know better what you doing. Just a little bit less offense.

I feel somewhat guilty for the "head-stone" tough, I should not say it.

PS: Just to give you a flavor on how it feels to reading your comments.

Goran,

I very much disagree. The law is the law and normally there is no such thing as "double jeopardy", you cannot be punished twice for the same crime.

If I decide to rob a bank in Belgrade and while doing it I kill 20 people with my machine gun - that's a crime.

If I court in Belgrade will decide, I am guilty and I have to pay 1000 Dinar fine for that crime: this is the ONLY valid verdict.

You can argue, the punishment is not adequate to the crime. This could be true, but the law is the law. If the judge told, that's the "jedan crveni" for killing 20 people and robbing a bank, than that's it.

And the police has absolutely no right to proceed on their own.

If that wouldn't be the case you cannot argue about 1244 because 1244 is the law, not what Drenica Clan does declare because they got some underhanded support from USA.

In this case we can honestly hope, this is not the end of the case and someone would be find to be guilty beyond reasonable doubt, otherwise it would look pretty ugly.

Reading these comments gives one the impression that the overinflated nationalistic machismo of one group being tarnished is the real cause of concern, not the alleged abuse of the Serbian judicial system.

(szemi, 22 September 2009 23:38)

Szemi don't lecture us with SANU propaganda from 70s-90s, we all know the REAL TRUTH.

They were freed!!!Thanks god!
As for the bytiqys,they were UCK terrorists and got what they were looking for.
(CG, 22 September 2009 14:48)

Quite a few Serbs disagree with that on the Serbian site of B92. All I can say is this (from the comments there):

"Zeleo bi pravdu (ako se to moze reci) za sve zrtve ovoga rata bez obzira na nacionalnost."

Otherwise someone is guilty with that murder, correct? If these two are not, than I want to know who - and want to see them locked up.

And as "Pedja" - I think, I know him in person ;-) - writes:

"Gde su organizatori, gde su oni koji su ubistvo naredli?"

"have you heard of the term warprisoner?"

Mercenaries don't have the same rights as official war prisoners or POWs.

During the time they were killed it was OPEN SEASON on Serbian civilans in Kosovo. Around 2,000 Serbs and Roma were killed or kidnapped and then killed in 1999.

Here is a picture of Isa Kodra (see link) who was part of the Atlantic Brigade and was the guy who claimed the brothers did not give up their weapons after the war but hid them from NATO. For all we know they may have been caught with their weapons (the first time) or had just hid/stashed them somewhere in southern Serbia where the NLA was setting up.

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_-xP7ZrVCwHA/SOfrxVb_nWI/AAAAAAAAAwc/xmJWBtroPMw/FFdfsf.jpg
"Isa Kodra, a sergeant in the U.S. National Guard who is volunteering to fight for the Kosovo Liberation Army, stands before his comrades Sunday, April 11,1999, in Yonkers, N.Y. More than 400 recruits were sworn in Sunday and are scheduled to leave later this week on charter flights from New York to Tirana, Albania, from where they hope to join the KLA. (AP Photo/Stephen Chernin)"

This will perhaps go down as just another case of the state apparatus 'unilaterally' exonerating itself. I am sure the ICJ will take into consideration Serbia's current attitude toward Albanians, and why not the attitude of Serbian society as a whole. You people act as if nothing happened in the '90s. Very sad indeed. Serbian justice is an oxymoron. Yet I am still baffled that the likes of Mike, Kate etc don't cry foul play here, but they seem more at ease when to still yell "terrorist!" when Albanians are exonerated by international judges. How odd!

The only thing truthful in this verdict is the statement that the Bytyqi brothers were PRISONERS OF WAR (POWs).

Quiet a shame for no jail time to those who killed the Albanians. Next week Tadiq will hand medals to the criminals for the ultimate act of killing Albanians.

Thanks Serbia.

Nice photo, I am very touched...

On 22 September 2009 16:32, SerbianKnight wrote:

"Albanian terrorists should be searched, located, apprehended and liquidated."

I can see that SerbianKnight is all for efficiency. I would thought the proper sequence is searched, located, apprehended, put on trial, and then sentenced in some form, or released.
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The Bytyqi brothers were likely terrorists of some form and may well have committed crimes against Serbian civilians and participated in ethnic cleansing, but now we’ll never know.

I’m absolutely disgusted at the thoughtless execution of prisoners without trial and those that support such behavior (liquidation? That’s just scary as hell). It’s wrong when their side does it, and it’s wrong when our side does it. It’s ALWAYS wrong no matter who does it. “Keeping score” on Who did What\When & How is pointless and leads no where but to more violence. It does NOT justify committing the same crime in retaliation.

A crime certainly took place, someone involved should be punished. Hopefully the prosecution will amend the charges, maybe based on when they dropped them off with “unknown” persons instead of when they picked them up?

However, that being said, I think the guys on trial are most likely minor figures (transporting prisoners) and merely “carrying out orders”.

We need some sort of Truth & Reconciliation commission so that we can work through these types of things and find the missing and know what actually happened. Give these guys and others like them amnesty and really just go ahead the really bad guys.

bytici brothers, got justice thath they deserved and no more justice anyone has right to ask! Who takes a sword will die from sword1
(timotimekvej, 22 September 2009 16:51)

- As to posting itself: yes, precisely this mentality will ensure, the Albanian-Serbian conflict will be well and alive in the 31st century.
(Ataman, 22 September 2009 18:43)

Here I must agree with Mr McVeigh .Not only Bytyqi brothers deserved what they got but so will the members of Lakatos,Kolompár and Orsós clans(most extensive criminal gangs in Hungary) who terrorize common people on daily basis.Of course in their case it is more appropriate to write Who takes the knife will die from knife.

Ida,

I agree with you more often than not and disagree with Kosova-USA most of the time.

But as far as I know, here he is 100% correct. It is unclear, that the brothers EVER did fire a single shot. All what we know is that they did behave somewhat erratically, helping and mingling with all three major ethnic elements (Albanians, Serbs, Gypsies).

The only proven crime they did commit was violation of the border crossing procedure / lack of visa and being part of anti-government unit (UCK). Merely crossing illegally won't result in 15 day detention, but for doing so and being part of UCK is what 15 day detention was.

It was known, a Serbian Gypsy was supposed to meet them after the 15 day detention and take them in his car somewhere - not a typical case if one would be engaged into big-scale ethnic violence against Serbs.

Besides that, a verdict is a verdict. The judge delivered the only valid Serbian verdict which is 15 days imprisonment and not a death sentence. If the law is the law and 1244 is the law, than it's also the other way, no double standards.

This was intentional murder and I would also (as obvious political message) deliver the maximum possible sentence plus property confiscation. The problem is, probably they did not catch the biggest fish, but "на безрыбие и рак рыба" - so whoever is found guilty for the murder, has to pay. I am not fan of any "plea bargain deal" - but as exception maybe I would encourage the smaller perpetrators to "sing" about the larger fish who ordered the entire thing.

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To Kosova-USA:

As said, this time you are correct. Even if I do not support what the three brothers wanted, what they did was no more, than what 15 days sentence was for. Who killed them has to be locked away for the rest of his life and his property confiscated.

I thought they got arrested after the war was over.

Reading these comments gives one the impression that the overinflated nationalistic machismo of one group being tarnished is the real cause of concern, not the alleged abuse of the Serbian judicial system.

(Mike, 22 September 2009 16:27)

Not that bad, the opinion on the Serbian language part of B92 is pretty much divided 50:50. Normally, I would expect 0:100 - but with the war crimes committed by NATO in 1999 that got shifted unfortunately towards as you wrote "nationalistic machismo".

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Sad to see Serbs searching for any excuse, not matter how sickening, in explaining their blatant breach of international law when it comes to its highest principles - that of human rights.

(Ptoleme, 22 September 2009 16:25)

See above and read the Serbian comments on the Serbian part of the B92. It is divided.

However I am not so sure who is more black: kettle or the pot. Because at the time Naser Oric was freed - what we did read here?

And the Albanians who now cry bloody murder - what did they did only few month ago as the "pigeon" part of the "pigeon-snake" Quetzalcoatl was arrested and freed in Bulgaria?

Somehow they see now different, but in the reality they are MUCH WORSE.
We can say, roughly half of the Serbs do sympathize with the victims here and it is genuine. And Albanian comments are welcome on both English and Serbian part of B92.

On the other hand any critics to Drenica gangsters can be done only silently, often in foreign (German) language. Serbia needs a long way to go, but Kosovo with or without Albania has an even longer way.

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If you want to be acquainted with the new laws, read K-Constitution, no need for clan references.

(miri, 22 September 2009 16:49)

Miri,

I am not really curious about chicken-scratch of "pigeons".
Once "pigeon" and "snake" are behind the bars and Kosovars are not (quasi)represented by ones, who has blood and drug money - I will be more welcoming to the "K-Constitution".

Since it's not the case, 1244 is the law and "Kosovo je Srbija"/"Kosova ëshë Serbi" is written in stone.

here is a typical response that we're all so used to seeing...

"how do you know it wasn't ALBANIANS that killed them?"

Firstly i congratulate our Serbian judicary system on a welcoming decision.
Secondly I don't understand the Albanian posters on this Serb news site, if you are so disgusted with the Serb population why do you read/comment on our news sites?
I find you repulsive and would never read anything that you have to offer let alone leave a comment!
Read your own news sites and spill your hatred there because we Serbs don't care what you have to say.
Ohh by the way thank you USA/EU for rebuilding our province, it's a nice ploy by the Serb Government. Let them rebuild and than well start governing it once again:)

Roberto do you really mean this?
"Some of the comments issued by certain serbian posters are so offensive and dripping with venom as to be almost unreadable. i won't mention individuals but you know who you are. really almost unbearable to read."

Do you mean like this one?

"shame shame shame .they dont realise that every thing that hapend in serbia is in EU and USA record.i wish england killed every illegal serb that entered our country and then send the criminiles free."
(luca_uk, 22 September 2009 16:11)

Isn't luca an Albanian? What do you think of the venom spewed from him? Ah, I get it. Albanians are allowed to spew the venom and you are very happy to tolerate it but God forbid a Serb says anything negative. It becomes unbearable for you.

If this is the case then perhaps you should not come to this site, for the sake of your mental health.

When you join a terrorist group dying is a possibility. That anyone was accused of crimes here is ridiculous and strange and I am very very happy the people were found not guilty. I don't care, I say "death to terrorists!"

To all the albanians and here i just have a question for you: how often did the KLA terrorists gave a trial to their victims before executing them? You demand to be treated fair but you never do the same so stop crying! i am not suggesting these people should not get a fair trial but its ridiculous to stand and watch albanians screaming for justice, because they dont know the meaning of the word!
(Nikos, 24 September 2009 15:45)

Nikos, this is not your piece of pie bro, why are you jumping to grab it? Just enjoy the billions you received from EU, while you drink coffee and dance in buzukis.

And yeah, maybe out of brotherly love you just equalized Serbian state with KLA "terrorists", since according to you none of them gave each other a fair trial. But KLA was a guerrilla force, and not a regular army. K-Alb did not have state institutions to trial any of serbian terrorists, and control individual actions of some KLA members (if ever happened). The KLA was not a direct representative of the will of K-Alb, Rugova was, but the KLA was a problem solver. Serbian terrorist state was though, the representative of the will of Serbian people. So you do the math.....

Maybe you want to join Serbs in a union and create your orthodox brotherly love state, maybe November 17 organization (world known as terrorist organization) will join the radical party of Serbia as well, for an all time peace process in the Balkans.

bytici brothers, got justice thath they deserved and no more justice anyone has right to ask! Who takes a sword will die from sword1
(timotimekvej, 22 September 2009 16:51)

- I would probably not post under "timotimekvej" or, better, Tim McVeigh nick anything because not sure that blowing up the Murrah building in Oklahoma and killing few hundred people was okay.

- As to posting itself: yes, precisely this mentality will ensure, the Albanian-Serbian conflict will be well and alive in the 31st century. You will argue about opanak and fustanella at the time others will send a space mission to an other Galaxy.

I remember Albanian postings as Ceku was in Bulgaria. They should not complain, they were 100% the same like many Serbians here. Except, that not a single Albanian took the stance what roughly 50% of Serbs did on the Serbian part of B92.

2) I suppose, Mosad should punish the terrorists and the bandits to their likening, disregarding any Israeli court order. Any objection?
(Ataman, 22 September 2009 21:56)

Well that is not the best example since the organization mentioned by you itself has strong terrorist roots and long history of fighting freedom fighters in the most brutal way .Once again israelis are the kosovo albanians of the middle east who bacame the majority by similar multi-step ethnic cleansing .

Don't expect a reply from Roberto: he's a hater and a bigot and such double standards define him.

"Mike's comments to roberto made in Aug. need to be repeated again and again."

-- For the record, my comments/thoughts on roberto still stand, but I need to emphasize that I almost always agree with him when he is theorizing about building democratic civil societies and shared communities. There is nothing there that anyone can disagree with. It's his selective and apparently arbitrary application of said theories that I find dubious and disingenuous.

"in racist serbia, you were and are treated like vermin. for for us you are heroes. thank you for your contributions."

While roberto clearly is not the only one, he's a perfect example of someone who

a) apparently didn't read the article beyond the title

and

b) used his own selective memories to reach conclusions of what he honestly believes to be racism and ammoral filth on the other side.

The article does not say that the ACTUAL indicted murderers were acquitted. It only said that two people who were potential accomplices in the murder were acquitted. This does not mean that the murders were given their walking papers. It simply means that two lower level guards are not responsible for a crime that is STILL unresolved.

But of course if you read the comments here, you'd be pretty sure that over half the Albanians didn't read the article and felt the need to mash out some over-the-top glorification for three people simply because of the fact that they are Albanian. Does it matter who they are? No. Does it matter what they did? No. Does it matter what they were arrested for? No. Does it matter that they even DID anything noble in life? No. All that matters is that three UCK terrorists/freedom fighters were martyred/killed by Serbian thugs/soldiers and can now go down in history as martyrs of the nation/3 dumb seljaci.

Albanians and their supporters love to lambast Serbs and their apparent allies as intoxicated with historical revisionism, over the top exaggerations of self-importance, and a complete denial of any wrongdoing in life. I really wonder if any of them realize they engage in these very vocations on a daily basis, or if they just think their own selective memories are somehow normatively better.

Instead of a series of comments that talk about whether or not two Serbs were responsible for the deaths of 3 Albanians, the comments have devolved (quite quickly on both sides) into whether these three people were the greatest Albanian heroes since Skanderbeg, or just three Albanian American terrorists who paid the price for playing with guns.

Accusations of both sides continue to fly, and in order to make one's own side feel somewhat superior, the only solution many see is to compltely denigrate the other side.

Obviously there's three sides to this story:

1. "Our" side (which of course is completely true, even though its heavily laden with signs of historical justification, entitlement, and moral righteousness, but hey, I love my country and my people).

2. "Their" side (which is nothing but lies, propaganda, revisionism, and selective memories because they have no morals or souls).

3. The "objective" side, which of course is rarely, if ever, considered because it requires one to actually admit their own side has damnable evidence and the other side might actually have a valid point (and why would we want to do that? That would mean accepting that my own side isn't completely awesome).

Were the roles reversed and this were another story of some KPS cop arresting some Serb, the justice system would "obviously" be working (because if you honestly believe the "other" side is comprised of little more than orcs, you're going to reach such stupid conclusions).

"- As to posting itself: yes, precisely this mentality will ensure, the Albanian-Serbian conflict will be well and alive in the 31st century.
(Ataman, 22 September 2009 18:43)"

Absolutely right Ataman. I forgot to add that to my own useful/useless rant a few minutes ago. The comments here on both sides are exceptionally crude and only exacerbates each side to reinforce their own narratives of selective historical memory.

Don't expect a reply from Roberto: he's a hater and a bigot and such double standards define him.
(Peggy, 23 September 2009 10:23)

There is someone here who is posing as me. This was not written by me although I agree with it.

Ah, Mike's comments to roberto made in Aug. need to be repeated again and again.
Mike said...

"roberto,

First, you need to stop being a self-proclaimed martyr. No one is "attacking" you on this site as you claim. I and a number of others are "criticizing" you for your one-sided views on a number of issues that come off as extremely hypocritical and egotistical. You paint yourself as an unjust victim by writing "if all of the S nationalist posters here utterly discount everything i say [roberto] then how could any of them POSSibly care what i have to say about anything?"

-- To be honest, I'm not sure a lot of people really "care" about what you write any more than they "care" about what other people write when they try to portray themselves as objective and above the fray of nationalism, yet still lump entire ethnic groups in a set of stereotypes. You may think you're trying to write objectively here, but it's painfully obvious you have an apparent bias. That's your right and opinion, and I'm not here to critique that. I'm only here to point out what I and others see are perennial inconsistencies in your arguments. If pointing that out offends you to the point where you can only refer to us as "nationalists", that's an unfortunate feature of your personal character. So, we don’t really regard you as an authority figure. We just note the hypocrisy hidden beneath the text.

Second, you should come to a better understanding of who is a "nationalist" on this site and who isn't. It's easy for you to claim all your detractors are nothing more than "s nationalists" because you can then classify them as beneath you and not worthy of consideration that they have any valid arguments. Are there nationalists on this site? Without question, and they make up both sides and are more than Serbs and Albanians. Can things get personal? Absolutely. Are comments made here that belie all forms of rational thought? Too many for my taste. But being critical of the other side and providing a frame of thought that still takes one's own side does not constitute "nationalism".

Third, you are not all knowing. You refer to yourself as an "outsider" who apparently thinks they are doing the rest of us a favor by trying to inform us of things we would never have known had you not posted your thoughts. As I've said in the past, I find myself agreeing with your ideas in theory, but for reasons that are only your own you feel the need to arbitrarily apply them to certain scenarios only. That you castigate a number of us for being "Serbian nationalists" while referring to Albanians as simply your "colleagues" already implies a bias you think you don’t have. If you can’t see the apparent nationalism from your own “colleagues” you’re not thinking objectively, and that's a primary reason why a number of us can't take you or what you say seriously.

You may honestly think you’re above the fray, and you may honestly think the criticisms you receive is a Cross you must nobly bear in order to fight for what you feel to be the truth. But I think it’s safe to say a number of us think you just come across as an arrogant blowhard with impeccable grammar.

Hopefully you’ll take this to heart and not feel the need to chalk it up to another comment from a “s nationalist” that you can add to some conceptual badge of honor.
(Mike, 14 August 2009)"

"jelena_uk my birthplace is northampton,if northampton is in albania then im albanian.according to the english i think i speec better than you love.at least your nick tells everething.truth hurts when i say ur bread,ur jobs,ur help."

The education system must be poor there - or you must have been a school drop out as your writing, spelling and grammar is low quality.

Justice privailed.A good message to politically correct self-destroying europe:terrorists and bandits must be punished and not those who hunt for them.
(szemi, 22 September 2009 15:56)

1) Not just that, but they conspired with well-known dangerous Albanian terrorist, Miroslav Mitrovic. Everyone knows, Miroslav Mitrovic being the most dangerous UCK commander. Just please read how they did help Mitrovic family to move from Prizren to Kraljevo, that's how they got in trouble.

2) I suppose, Mosad should punish the terrorists and the bandits to their likening, disregarding any Israeli court order. Any objection?

in racist serbia
(roberto, 22 September 2009 21:56)

1) Roberto, please do not write such things. This way you achieve precisely the opposite what you want. Slamming the entire country - and you cannot even read what other people write on the Serbian part of B92. This way you cement the old habits, not helping anyone a single bit.

2) USA is by no way any less racist that Serbia. We have here one Tim McVeigh in words only, but USA had one in deeds.

One question for ‘luca_uk’: In whose name are you talking when you say things like “ i wish this country throw all the serbs out of uk.they dont deserve our bread,our jobs,our help.” Apparently you don’t even speak the English language properly? How exactly are you part of ‘us’, then? There are many ways of integrating into a society, and learning the language would undoubtedly be one of the first steps – please make sure you took them all before you start commenting.
One for Roberto – as someone who has family connections across peoples and ethnicity 'divides' (including Jewish) I am finding your comments as bordering repulsive. And I have found myself ‘not recommending’ your posts without reading them at all. There is a message in it for me, surely, but even bigger one for you - called hypocrisy. I hope you will get it.
Regarding the case – killing the prisoners, or anybody else, without a trial is inexcusable. What’s more, death sentence should be banned from the face of this earth altogether. Whoever has done this has to be brought to the face of justice and sentenced accordingly – but that does not mean you should pick up any Tom, Dick and Harry for the sake of sentencing someone. That practice is called ‘lynching’ and belongs to the Dark Ages. There has to be a proof (I must say Haradinaj is free at the moment only because no solid proof could be found – and we all know what the reasons are). I hope the perpetrators (on both sides) will be apprehended soon, and answer for the crime/s they committed.

The only "stone" you can talk about is your head.
"Serbia është Rusi"
(miri, 23 September 2009 16:21)

I don't remember, I ever attacked you in person, except the single "fire extinguisher" but that was very indirect and you know precisely why. Reciprocity is appreciated but not demanded.

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"Serbia është Rusi"
(miri, 23 September 2009 16:21)

Sounds bombastic, but not correct and you know it the best.

Otherwise it is unclear, what you wanted to say here. Up to you, but so much negative feeling is really not good and it will bite you back somehow. Do not want to lecture you, you know better what you doing. Just a little bit less offense.

I feel somewhat guilty for the "fire extinguisher" tough, I should not say it.

Since it's not the case, 1244 is the law and "Kosovo je Srbija"/"Kosova ëshë Serbi" is written in stone.
(Ataman, 22 September 2009 17:56)

Sounds bombastic, but not correct and you know it the best.
(miri, 23 September 2009 19:48)

Technically and legally it is correct, but I do not know, how ICJ will rule.
Regardless, how they rule this all is theory and there won't be a good solution till both Serbs and Albanians do not feel, they are winners.

IMO, the only just solution would be a state union between Tirana and Belgrade as one country. Kosovo is a tough thing because it is Serbia but it is Albania, sometimes depending on the street. Just division is impossible, someone will be a "minority" and by smallest incident cry bloody murder.

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Up to you, but so much negative feeling is really not good and it will bite you back somehow.
(miri, 23 September 2009 19:48)

This is incorrect about negative feelings. A small proof: the cake on my b-day was Albanian. If I would hate Albanians, probably I won't buy a b-day cake for myself.

Proof (what remained from that cake):

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1273/torta.jpg

It was "smuggled" to Hungary last week and of course was eaten quickly.

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I feel somewhat guilty for the "head-stone" tough, I should not say it.
(miri, 23 September 2009 19:48)

No problem here, but while I am officially "pro-Serbian", I am not necessarily anti-Albanian. I have zero sympathy for Drenica clan. But not much for Zemun clan either.

You will be hard-pressed to find a single bitter word from me about Albin Kurti, Veton Surroi or Vlora Citaku.

If you admire some other names I do not want to mention - that is up to you. My opinion on that is that the cause should not justify the methods and I apply it to everyone. I think, in the case of many "politicians" of former YU - and that does not include well-known criminals like Arkan - even their cause was rotten, not just the methods. I think, no side of the conflict was "clean".

"I think, in the case of many "politicians" of former YU - and that does not include well-known criminals like Arkan"

Sorry not to be clear - I re-read my message, I mean, that Arkan wasn't even a politician to a smallest degree, just plainly a (petty) criminal from begin, "advancing" to a major criminal and he is not worth to be considered.

Wow, you explained quite a lot about the general Serbian feeling towards this (and other) case.

You're missing one important fact. These three ‘terrorist’ brothers were unarmed and posed no threat to anyone when executed. Remember, they were arrested, then handed over to be Murdered.
1. Een if they were involved with KLA, they should have been tried and sentenced.
2. How do we even know now that they were who you say they were (KLA or similar)
3. Are we to take YOUR word for it just because you say so?
4. They were Murdered and the evidence is gone.
(BH_NYC, 22 September 2009 16:21)


1. Yeah, just like everyone at guantanamo bay, not to mention the countless number of serbs in the hague.

2. I know who that they are KLA judging by their funeral with the UCK emblem above.

3.Are we to take your word just because you say so? are we to take the word of the americans and the rest just because they say so? i dont expect anyone to take my word, but i hope they look at my points.

4.Milosevic was murdered before he could stand trial, how many others were as well...how about all the serbs in kosovo since 1999 that have been murdered without any sort of investigation launched?

What probably happened was: they were interrogated, tortured, nothing was found to justify torture and they had to eliminate them.
(BH_NYC, 23 September 2009 09:38)

Nothing exceptional with that, that was the "normal" procedure in every socialist country. It's not anti-Albanian in particular, just very much of a Stalinist style. Any Serb, Hungarian, Russian, etc. who got in trouble would be in the same situation. If anything found what resembles guilt = show trial. If not guilty and useless for a show trial = kill them silently.

think, in the case of many "politicians" of former YU - and that does not include well-known criminals like Arkan - even their cause was rotten, not just the methods. I think, no side of the conflict was "clean".
(Ataman, 23 September 2009 23:04)

conflicts/wars and clean are two words that will never go together....
And btw, thanks for your comments, always a pleasure to read them

hey PEGGY ever read your comments after you post them????i tel you what,you deserve a place in tha cabinet if the radical party wins the elections next time.all this hard work you have done so far,even same serbs that have lost member of their family in kosovo dont hate kosovo and albanian as much as you do.that makes albanian even stronger.i guess you are just a serbian immigrant in australia,becouse i never heard australian to be anti-albanian like you are.
(luca_uk, 23 September 2009 09:47)

I don't hate Kosovo at all. The fact that you think I deserve a place in the Radical party is not an insult to me. A political party is just that. They are not a terrorist organisation unlike your beloved Thaci and Ceku.

I don't care if you claim to be English because you claim you were born there, you are still very much Albanian at heart just I am still very much Serbian at heart so what's your point? Why are you trying to fool us that you don't carry Albanianism in your heart?

BTW, Australian government has recognised Kosovo but that does not mean that Australians have love for Albanains. You cannot link the two. Australian government will do whatever US tell it to do, even follow them to war which are clearly a violation of UN. Sort of like recognition of Kosovo was.

Well you travel from the US to visit Yugoslavia, but you enter the country illegally and you end up dead. Well i guess when come to join a insurgency then you become a victim of chance. Better to stay in the US and live you life instead of going to join a cause and die for what? Nothing.

Adrian Kola
"Moreover, even if they had been captured in combat conditions, POW rules should have applied. But obviously it is very clear that the terrorist state of Serbia has no regard for such rules or regulations and refuses to sentence its criminals for atrocious crimes."

Just for your information:
To qualify under the Third Geneva Convention, a combatant must have conducted military operations according to the laws and customs of war, be part of a chain of command, wear a "fixed distinctive marking, visible from a distance" and bear arms openly. Thus, uniforms and/or badges are important in determining prisoner-of-war status; and francs-tireurs, terrorists, saboteurs, mercenaries and spies do not qualify.

To all the albanians and here i just have a question for you: how often did the KLA terrorists gave a trial to their victims before executing them? You demand to be treated fair but you never do the same so stop crying! i am not suggesting these people should not get a fair trial but its ridiculous to stand and watch albanians screaming for justice, because they dont know the meaning of the word!

Denis hello dont state the obvious i know KLA didnt had any state institutions (since it was a guerrilla force)but its not an excuse and i dont think that even if he had such institutions he would give anyone a fair trial.
I am not orthodox or religious and i am sure you dont know what 17 November organization is (leftist terror organization)-no relation with SRP and this organization is dissolved and its members arrested. Now the problem we have is albanian mafia and albanian criminals who kill old ladies for 10 euro. i suggest you concentrate in countries that anyone can open military warehouses and sell Kalashnikov automatic rifles for 25$ (is postage included Denis?) all over the balkans. cheers