"We are faced with challenges, to which we respond in a way that stabilizes the region, in the long-term," Janša was confident.
Yep, but this long term stabilization will take a bit longer than EU expects. Like for the radioactivity of Thorium it only takes 1,405 x 10 000 000000 years to decay to half life. But it's not a problem if you look at it as a long term process...
What is a REALISTIC solution? Of course not war. War is not needed nor wished by both nations (I'm thinking about peoples not leaders). But ONLY REALISTIC and LAWFULL SOLUTION is "SUPERVISED AUTONOMY" of Serbian province of
Kosovo.
What difference it makes for Kosovo Albanians to legally get this what they really want.
This one will satisfy required freedom for Albanians with international guarantees that autonomy won't be canceled, will satisfy Serbs and International law.
Otherwise the intentions of US and EU are at least suspicious and illegal.
EA, I’m not a Serb and looking on all of this from some perspective. You place a question “What is a realistic solution” then I said what solution was and still is possible to satisfy both side and not break international law.
“But that "offer" is too late now don't you think so? How someone with the sound mind can tell or ask the Kosovar Albanians "Be Serbian" after all they have been through by the Serbian state? I really hope you get the poing.”
Nobody ask you to “be Serbian”. If you can be “Kosovar Albanian” equally well you can be “Serbian Albanian”. Citizenship and nationality are two different thing.
Your (sorry I don’t know is he yours) PM offer good neighbors relations. Do you think that after all of this what happened it is possible? You know as well as I neither side were angels. Don’t try to tell me that I do not know.
I know personally (I was a quite a time in Gostivar, Macedonia), there was a fire exchange across the border for years. I know many Serbian Albanians happy to be in Yugoslavia instead in Albania at Tito time. The nationalistic leaders on both sides created a problem. The Serbian one was turned down by Serbs. Why don’t you do the same with yours war criminals?
Maybe it is time that the EU stood up for human and ethnic rights and what better an example then create an idependent state/homeland for all the Roma - ideal place Belguim - the heart of EU governance!!!
Now that would turn the kosovo precedence on its head if all the Roma in the EU congregated in Belguim and declared independece!
Dear KS in response to you claim that
Serbia needs to mature to get into EU, and also have the Serbs realize that they aren't the "holy" race. When Serbs learn to respect minorities, ethnicities, and other religions --- only than will it be allowed in.
(KS, 2 March 2008 17:18)
are Serbians to take an example of this from what Nation
- Germany, Italy and Albania
these so called Nations are preaching something that they cna not themselves follow.
Again these idealistic nations are standing on Serbian soil and we all know what happened the last time this occured.
The "Supervised Autonomy" might have made sense if were talking 20 years ago or so and should have been now war in Kosova. But that "offer" is too late now don't you think so? How someone with the sound mind can tell or ask the Kosovar Albanians "Be Serbian" after all they have been through by the Serbian state? I really hope you get the poing.
Serbs already made the first move by reelecting Boris Tadic last month. That was seen as Serbia's symbolic willingness to continue the path of long overdue EU integration.
This should have been followed up with a clear sign by Brussels to work with Tadic on solving the Kosovo issue - it not immediately, then assuredly gradually so both parts sign the SAA agreement, and both get into the EU. Unfortunately, Tadic was dropped like an ugly girl on a Saturday night in favor of the EU mission that left his mandate out to dry by Kostunica and the more populist politcal parties here.
Serbia has made numerous "first moves" and it's time Brussels tried responding, rather than continue to throw obstacles in Belgrade's way.
"…When Serbs learn to respect minorities, ethnicities, and other religions --- only than will it be allowed in…."
KS, what are you talking about? Serbia is most multicultural country of ex -YU in sharp contrast with a Kosovo under Albanian rule. When will expelled from Kosovo could return to their homes and lead normal life without barbed wire and military escorts? Any time soon?
What is a REALISTIC solution? Of course not war. War is not needed nor wished by both nations (I'm thinking about peoples not leaders). But ONLY REALISTIC and LAWFULL SOLUTION is "SUPERVISED AUTONOMY" of Serbian province of
Kosovo.
What difference it makes for Kosovo Albanians to legally get this what they really want.
This one will satisfy required freedom for Albanians with international guarantees that autonomy won't be canceled, will satisfy Serbs and International law.
Otherwise the intentions of US and EU are at least suspicious and illegal.
# Here we go again with the statement of
" the door of the EU is not closed for Serbia"
Yes! but it is also not open either.
More diplomatic statements that will never surmount to anything positive for the Serbs.
Serbia will never ever be granted for EU Membership!
(Another Canadian Serb, 2 March 2008 13:17)
Serbia needs to mature to get into EU, and also have the Serbs realize that they aren't the "holy" race. When Serbs learn to respect minorities, ethnicities, and other religions --- only than will it be allowed in.
"united"?!
Doesn't look like.
It's illegal,as well.
And there is nothing else Serbia could do in an attempt to please the EU masters (in Washington).
The statement that the EU door is (still?!) open for Serbia is hollow , insincere and comes from the time-tested and avid supporters of Serbia's ill-being.
You do not join the club whose (some) members want to see you dead. You take your chances somewhere else...Anywhere else, as a matter of fact... as your odds for survival are higher...
Serbia must undermine the EU at every turn when it comes to Kosovo - afterall, as has been said many times before, there is no link between joining the EU and Kosovo.
It is wrong that other countries should break their commitment to autonomy for Kosovo signed for in 1244 - this was obviously the best solution for the region, but instead the US, UK, EU etc have deliberately decided to undermine democratic Serbia as part of an illegal 'collective punishment'.
It's a good moment for the Serbs to "make first move" ! If I were Tadic or Kostinica I would use this proposal of the temporary head of EU to ask for the list of conditions under which they are ready to integrate Serbia ! It's a good chance cause EU today is uncapable to develop such demands !
Let it be open ! Serbia today is not interested in secret diplomacy . Serbia should make no other "first moves" untill there's a EU response. But because the EU is uncapable to make demands leading to separation of Kosovo the two vital issues will be separated by the EU itself ! And this is what Serbia now needs most of all !
Serbia is making the first move telling EU lackey Slovenia and Brussels to stop being the worlds biggest hypocrites also trying to set traps for Serbia. What next can come from this law breaking tiring EU.
Here we go again with the statement of
" the door of the EU is not closed for Serbia"
Yes! but it is also not open either.
More diplomatic statements that will never surmount to anything positive for the Serbs.
Serbia will never ever be granted for EU Membership!
Yeah, to grab our territory, which is an act of war…
"…most Serbs are pro-European…"
Not for any price.
“…Prime Minister Vojislav Koštunica, says the Union must "first declare what it sees as Serbia and what Serbia's borders are", before the country can negotiate closer ties…”
Of course, perfectly sensible.
“…Janša also told reporters last night that the EU position on Kosovo is "united"…”
So, opinion of those countries who don’t follow the few big ones, doesn’t even count? How very democratic! If these are the rules of the game, no thanks, we are not going to become EU member and surrender our freedom.
“…that there is "no turning back". ..”
Backward, forward, its all relative, depending on point of view. West Europeans are pragmatic, logical folk. Nothing is written on the stone, they would reconsider their position if situation changes, wouldn’t they?
I know your hardline points of view when it comes to Kosova issue. You and people like you are interested only on the land and not on the people living in it. Let's be truthful about it. What a REALISTIC solution do you offer? War?
What I think a REALSITIC solution wouuld be. Serbia recognise Kosova's independence ( and I dont expect now) and everything will be sorted in frame of good neighbourhood, free movement of goods and people between Kosova and Serbia, common policies in fighting crime and corruption, safe return of refugees and common future in the EU. These are REALISTIC goals. The ball is in the Serbian side.
If Slovenia could only back off from Serbia. Slovenia should be ashamed of its role within the EU and of its behaviour towards the ex YU republics. They absolutely have no moral to talk to Serbs after the dispute with Croatians over the few miles of land. They use their membership to gain as much as possible including grabbing the land.
In stories such as “we back Serbia on its EU path” only degenerates can believe. Slovenia proved that cannot be trusted and certainly cannot be a friend to any of the ex YU republics. They can be only Austria’s faithful friend!!!!
And for your information Mr Jansa, Mr Tadic won presidential elections because he promised both, Kosovo and the EU. However, he was that naïve to believe that Kosovo and the EU integration were two separated issues. We know what the condition to join that ridiculous Union is. I think Serbia recently said bye, bye to the friendly Europeans. It is not in our best interest to join you and God knows how happy I am for that.
If Slovenia could only back off from Serbia. Slovenia should be ashamed of its role within the EU and of its behaviour towards the ex YU republics. They absolutely have no moral to talk to Serbs after the dispute with Croatians over the few miles of land. They use their membership to gain as much as possible including grabbing the land.
In stories such as “we back Serbia on its EU path” only degenerates can believe. Slovenia proved that cannot be trusted and certainly cannot be a friend to any of the ex YU republics. They can be only Austria’s faithful friend!!!!
And for your information Mr Jansa, Mr Tadic won presidential elections because he promised both, Kosovo and the EU. However, he was that naïve to believe that Kosovo and the EU integration were two separated issues. We know what the condition to join that ridiculous Union is. I think Serbia recently said bye, bye to the friendly Europeans. It is not in our best interest to join you and God knows how happy I am for that.
Serbia is making the first move telling EU lackey Slovenia and Brussels to stop being the worlds biggest hypocrites also trying to set traps for Serbia. What next can come from this law breaking tiring EU.
Serbs already made the first move by reelecting Boris Tadic last month. That was seen as Serbia's symbolic willingness to continue the path of long overdue EU integration.
This should have been followed up with a clear sign by Brussels to work with Tadic on solving the Kosovo issue - it not immediately, then assuredly gradually so both parts sign the SAA agreement, and both get into the EU. Unfortunately, Tadic was dropped like an ugly girl on a Saturday night in favor of the EU mission that left his mandate out to dry by Kostunica and the more populist politcal parties here.
Serbia has made numerous "first moves" and it's time Brussels tried responding, rather than continue to throw obstacles in Belgrade's way.
What is a REALISTIC solution? Of course not war. War is not needed nor wished by both nations (I'm thinking about peoples not leaders). But ONLY REALISTIC and LAWFULL SOLUTION is "SUPERVISED AUTONOMY" of Serbian province of
Kosovo.
What difference it makes for Kosovo Albanians to legally get this what they really want.
This one will satisfy required freedom for Albanians with international guarantees that autonomy won't be canceled, will satisfy Serbs and International law.
Otherwise the intentions of US and EU are at least suspicious and illegal.
Yeah, to grab our territory, which is an act of war…
"…most Serbs are pro-European…"
Not for any price.
“…Prime Minister Vojislav Koštunica, says the Union must "first declare what it sees as Serbia and what Serbia's borders are", before the country can negotiate closer ties…”
Of course, perfectly sensible.
“…Janša also told reporters last night that the EU position on Kosovo is "united"…”
So, opinion of those countries who don’t follow the few big ones, doesn’t even count? How very democratic! If these are the rules of the game, no thanks, we are not going to become EU member and surrender our freedom.
“…that there is "no turning back". ..”
Backward, forward, its all relative, depending on point of view. West Europeans are pragmatic, logical folk. Nothing is written on the stone, they would reconsider their position if situation changes, wouldn’t they?
"…When Serbs learn to respect minorities, ethnicities, and other religions --- only than will it be allowed in…."
KS, what are you talking about? Serbia is most multicultural country of ex -YU in sharp contrast with a Kosovo under Albanian rule. When will expelled from Kosovo could return to their homes and lead normal life without barbed wire and military escorts? Any time soon?
Here we go again with the statement of
" the door of the EU is not closed for Serbia"
Yes! but it is also not open either.
More diplomatic statements that will never surmount to anything positive for the Serbs.
Serbia will never ever be granted for EU Membership!
"united"?!
Doesn't look like.
It's illegal,as well.
And there is nothing else Serbia could do in an attempt to please the EU masters (in Washington).
The statement that the EU door is (still?!) open for Serbia is hollow , insincere and comes from the time-tested and avid supporters of Serbia's ill-being.
You do not join the club whose (some) members want to see you dead. You take your chances somewhere else...Anywhere else, as a matter of fact... as your odds for survival are higher...
Serbia must undermine the EU at every turn when it comes to Kosovo - afterall, as has been said many times before, there is no link between joining the EU and Kosovo.
It is wrong that other countries should break their commitment to autonomy for Kosovo signed for in 1244 - this was obviously the best solution for the region, but instead the US, UK, EU etc have deliberately decided to undermine democratic Serbia as part of an illegal 'collective punishment'.
Dear KS in response to you claim that
Serbia needs to mature to get into EU, and also have the Serbs realize that they aren't the "holy" race. When Serbs learn to respect minorities, ethnicities, and other religions --- only than will it be allowed in.
(KS, 2 March 2008 17:18)
are Serbians to take an example of this from what Nation
- Germany, Italy and Albania
these so called Nations are preaching something that they cna not themselves follow.
Again these idealistic nations are standing on Serbian soil and we all know what happened the last time this occured.
It's a good moment for the Serbs to "make first move" ! If I were Tadic or Kostinica I would use this proposal of the temporary head of EU to ask for the list of conditions under which they are ready to integrate Serbia ! It's a good chance cause EU today is uncapable to develop such demands !
Let it be open ! Serbia today is not interested in secret diplomacy . Serbia should make no other "first moves" untill there's a EU response. But because the EU is uncapable to make demands leading to separation of Kosovo the two vital issues will be separated by the EU itself ! And this is what Serbia now needs most of all !
I know your hardline points of view when it comes to Kosova issue. You and people like you are interested only on the land and not on the people living in it. Let's be truthful about it. What a REALISTIC solution do you offer? War?
What I think a REALSITIC solution wouuld be. Serbia recognise Kosova's independence ( and I dont expect now) and everything will be sorted in frame of good neighbourhood, free movement of goods and people between Kosova and Serbia, common policies in fighting crime and corruption, safe return of refugees and common future in the EU. These are REALISTIC goals. The ball is in the Serbian side.
Maybe it is time that the EU stood up for human and ethnic rights and what better an example then create an idependent state/homeland for all the Roma - ideal place Belguim - the heart of EU governance!!!
Now that would turn the kosovo precedence on its head if all the Roma in the EU congregated in Belguim and declared independece!
What is a REALISTIC solution? Of course not war. War is not needed nor wished by both nations (I'm thinking about peoples not leaders). But ONLY REALISTIC and LAWFULL SOLUTION is "SUPERVISED AUTONOMY" of Serbian province of
Kosovo.
What difference it makes for Kosovo Albanians to legally get this what they really want.
This one will satisfy required freedom for Albanians with international guarantees that autonomy won't be canceled, will satisfy Serbs and International law.
Otherwise the intentions of US and EU are at least suspicious and illegal.
EA, I’m not a Serb and looking on all of this from some perspective. You place a question “What is a realistic solution” then I said what solution was and still is possible to satisfy both side and not break international law.
“But that "offer" is too late now don't you think so? How someone with the sound mind can tell or ask the Kosovar Albanians "Be Serbian" after all they have been through by the Serbian state? I really hope you get the poing.”
Nobody ask you to “be Serbian”. If you can be “Kosovar Albanian” equally well you can be “Serbian Albanian”. Citizenship and nationality are two different thing.
Your (sorry I don’t know is he yours) PM offer good neighbors relations. Do you think that after all of this what happened it is possible? You know as well as I neither side were angels. Don’t try to tell me that I do not know.
I know personally (I was a quite a time in Gostivar, Macedonia), there was a fire exchange across the border for years. I know many Serbian Albanians happy to be in Yugoslavia instead in Albania at Tito time. The nationalistic leaders on both sides created a problem. The Serbian one was turned down by Serbs. Why don’t you do the same with yours war criminals?
The "Supervised Autonomy" might have made sense if were talking 20 years ago or so and should have been now war in Kosova. But that "offer" is too late now don't you think so? How someone with the sound mind can tell or ask the Kosovar Albanians "Be Serbian" after all they have been through by the Serbian state? I really hope you get the poing.
# Here we go again with the statement of
" the door of the EU is not closed for Serbia"
Yes! but it is also not open either.
More diplomatic statements that will never surmount to anything positive for the Serbs.
Serbia will never ever be granted for EU Membership!
(Another Canadian Serb, 2 March 2008 13:17)
Serbia needs to mature to get into EU, and also have the Serbs realize that they aren't the "holy" race. When Serbs learn to respect minorities, ethnicities, and other religions --- only than will it be allowed in.
"We are faced with challenges, to which we respond in a way that stabilizes the region, in the long-term," Janša was confident.
Yep, but this long term stabilization will take a bit longer than EU expects. Like for the radioactivity of Thorium it only takes 1,405 x 10 000 000000 years to decay to half life. But it's not a problem if you look at it as a long term process...
I know your hardline points of view when it comes to Kosova issue. You and people like you are interested only on the land and not on the people living in it. Let's be truthful about it. What a REALISTIC solution do you offer? War?
What I think a REALSITIC solution wouuld be. Serbia recognise Kosova's independence ( and I dont expect now) and everything will be sorted in frame of good neighbourhood, free movement of goods and people between Kosova and Serbia, common policies in fighting crime and corruption, safe return of refugees and common future in the EU. These are REALISTIC goals. The ball is in the Serbian side.
The "Supervised Autonomy" might have made sense if were talking 20 years ago or so and should have been now war in Kosova. But that "offer" is too late now don't you think so? How someone with the sound mind can tell or ask the Kosovar Albanians "Be Serbian" after all they have been through by the Serbian state? I really hope you get the poing.
# Here we go again with the statement of
" the door of the EU is not closed for Serbia"
Yes! but it is also not open either.
More diplomatic statements that will never surmount to anything positive for the Serbs.
Serbia will never ever be granted for EU Membership!
(Another Canadian Serb, 2 March 2008 13:17)
Serbia needs to mature to get into EU, and also have the Serbs realize that they aren't the "holy" race. When Serbs learn to respect minorities, ethnicities, and other religions --- only than will it be allowed in.
If Slovenia could only back off from Serbia. Slovenia should be ashamed of its role within the EU and of its behaviour towards the ex YU republics. They absolutely have no moral to talk to Serbs after the dispute with Croatians over the few miles of land. They use their membership to gain as much as possible including grabbing the land.
In stories such as “we back Serbia on its EU path” only degenerates can believe. Slovenia proved that cannot be trusted and certainly cannot be a friend to any of the ex YU republics. They can be only Austria’s faithful friend!!!!
And for your information Mr Jansa, Mr Tadic won presidential elections because he promised both, Kosovo and the EU. However, he was that naïve to believe that Kosovo and the EU integration were two separated issues. We know what the condition to join that ridiculous Union is. I think Serbia recently said bye, bye to the friendly Europeans. It is not in our best interest to join you and God knows how happy I am for that.
"…When Serbs learn to respect minorities, ethnicities, and other religions --- only than will it be allowed in…."
KS, what are you talking about? Serbia is most multicultural country of ex -YU in sharp contrast with a Kosovo under Albanian rule. When will expelled from Kosovo could return to their homes and lead normal life without barbed wire and military escorts? Any time soon?
Here we go again with the statement of
" the door of the EU is not closed for Serbia"
Yes! but it is also not open either.
More diplomatic statements that will never surmount to anything positive for the Serbs.
Serbia will never ever be granted for EU Membership!
Serbia is making the first move telling EU lackey Slovenia and Brussels to stop being the worlds biggest hypocrites also trying to set traps for Serbia. What next can come from this law breaking tiring EU.
Yeah, to grab our territory, which is an act of war…
"…most Serbs are pro-European…"
Not for any price.
“…Prime Minister Vojislav Koštunica, says the Union must "first declare what it sees as Serbia and what Serbia's borders are", before the country can negotiate closer ties…”
Of course, perfectly sensible.
“…Janša also told reporters last night that the EU position on Kosovo is "united"…”
So, opinion of those countries who don’t follow the few big ones, doesn’t even count? How very democratic! If these are the rules of the game, no thanks, we are not going to become EU member and surrender our freedom.
“…that there is "no turning back". ..”
Backward, forward, its all relative, depending on point of view. West Europeans are pragmatic, logical folk. Nothing is written on the stone, they would reconsider their position if situation changes, wouldn’t they?
It's a good moment for the Serbs to "make first move" ! If I were Tadic or Kostinica I would use this proposal of the temporary head of EU to ask for the list of conditions under which they are ready to integrate Serbia ! It's a good chance cause EU today is uncapable to develop such demands !
Let it be open ! Serbia today is not interested in secret diplomacy . Serbia should make no other "first moves" untill there's a EU response. But because the EU is uncapable to make demands leading to separation of Kosovo the two vital issues will be separated by the EU itself ! And this is what Serbia now needs most of all !
Serbia must undermine the EU at every turn when it comes to Kosovo - afterall, as has been said many times before, there is no link between joining the EU and Kosovo.
It is wrong that other countries should break their commitment to autonomy for Kosovo signed for in 1244 - this was obviously the best solution for the region, but instead the US, UK, EU etc have deliberately decided to undermine democratic Serbia as part of an illegal 'collective punishment'.
"united"?!
Doesn't look like.
It's illegal,as well.
And there is nothing else Serbia could do in an attempt to please the EU masters (in Washington).
The statement that the EU door is (still?!) open for Serbia is hollow , insincere and comes from the time-tested and avid supporters of Serbia's ill-being.
You do not join the club whose (some) members want to see you dead. You take your chances somewhere else...Anywhere else, as a matter of fact... as your odds for survival are higher...
Serbs already made the first move by reelecting Boris Tadic last month. That was seen as Serbia's symbolic willingness to continue the path of long overdue EU integration.
This should have been followed up with a clear sign by Brussels to work with Tadic on solving the Kosovo issue - it not immediately, then assuredly gradually so both parts sign the SAA agreement, and both get into the EU. Unfortunately, Tadic was dropped like an ugly girl on a Saturday night in favor of the EU mission that left his mandate out to dry by Kostunica and the more populist politcal parties here.
Serbia has made numerous "first moves" and it's time Brussels tried responding, rather than continue to throw obstacles in Belgrade's way.
What is a REALISTIC solution? Of course not war. War is not needed nor wished by both nations (I'm thinking about peoples not leaders). But ONLY REALISTIC and LAWFULL SOLUTION is "SUPERVISED AUTONOMY" of Serbian province of
Kosovo.
What difference it makes for Kosovo Albanians to legally get this what they really want.
This one will satisfy required freedom for Albanians with international guarantees that autonomy won't be canceled, will satisfy Serbs and International law.
Otherwise the intentions of US and EU are at least suspicious and illegal.
Dear KS in response to you claim that
Serbia needs to mature to get into EU, and also have the Serbs realize that they aren't the "holy" race. When Serbs learn to respect minorities, ethnicities, and other religions --- only than will it be allowed in.
(KS, 2 March 2008 17:18)
are Serbians to take an example of this from what Nation
- Germany, Italy and Albania
these so called Nations are preaching something that they cna not themselves follow.
Again these idealistic nations are standing on Serbian soil and we all know what happened the last time this occured.
Maybe it is time that the EU stood up for human and ethnic rights and what better an example then create an idependent state/homeland for all the Roma - ideal place Belguim - the heart of EU governance!!!
Now that would turn the kosovo precedence on its head if all the Roma in the EU congregated in Belguim and declared independece!
What is a REALISTIC solution? Of course not war. War is not needed nor wished by both nations (I'm thinking about peoples not leaders). But ONLY REALISTIC and LAWFULL SOLUTION is "SUPERVISED AUTONOMY" of Serbian province of
Kosovo.
What difference it makes for Kosovo Albanians to legally get this what they really want.
This one will satisfy required freedom for Albanians with international guarantees that autonomy won't be canceled, will satisfy Serbs and International law.
Otherwise the intentions of US and EU are at least suspicious and illegal.
EA, I’m not a Serb and looking on all of this from some perspective. You place a question “What is a realistic solution” then I said what solution was and still is possible to satisfy both side and not break international law.
“But that "offer" is too late now don't you think so? How someone with the sound mind can tell or ask the Kosovar Albanians "Be Serbian" after all they have been through by the Serbian state? I really hope you get the poing.”
Nobody ask you to “be Serbian”. If you can be “Kosovar Albanian” equally well you can be “Serbian Albanian”. Citizenship and nationality are two different thing.
Your (sorry I don’t know is he yours) PM offer good neighbors relations. Do you think that after all of this what happened it is possible? You know as well as I neither side were angels. Don’t try to tell me that I do not know.
I know personally (I was a quite a time in Gostivar, Macedonia), there was a fire exchange across the border for years. I know many Serbian Albanians happy to be in Yugoslavia instead in Albania at Tito time. The nationalistic leaders on both sides created a problem. The Serbian one was turned down by Serbs. Why don’t you do the same with yours war criminals?
"We are faced with challenges, to which we respond in a way that stabilizes the region, in the long-term," Janša was confident.
Yep, but this long term stabilization will take a bit longer than EU expects. Like for the radioactivity of Thorium it only takes 1,405 x 10 000 000000 years to decay to half life. But it's not a problem if you look at it as a long term process...
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