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Thursday, 01.12.2016.

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"Right-wing, anti-establishment sentiments - end of EU"

The surge in right-wing and anti-establishment sentiments due to of failed neo-liberal policies in Europe is likely to lead to EU's collapse, says Noam Chomsky.

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Comm. Parrisson

pre 7 godina

“If the union falls apart, I think it would be a tragic development,” Chomsky said, and blamed the failed neo-liberal policies of the past generation for influencing "such a significant rise in popularity of the right-wing parties."

I blame the leftist 'Gutmensch' policies who thought it would be smart to care more about immigrants, refugees, all kind of 'minorities', and forgetting about the majority, the working class, at the same time.

For me, the discussion in the USA about what toilets transgender people are allowed to use (as one of the 'major problems') is the most illustrative example for these ideas.

Joe A

pre 7 godina

He seems to be forgetting that the Left in Europe embraced these neo-liberal policies. Firstly because they believed that globalization would be good for the world and create a 'one world'. Secondly, because they were filling their pockets left and right. Remember Labour (hello Blair) in the UK and Left/Labour parties elsewhere in Europe? They all embraced neo-liberalism and abandoned their traditional supporters (the workers) and traded them in for middle class and upper class 'Gutmensch' folks and immigrants. The middle class however, is declining in Europe and when you lose the middle class you lose their political support.
What you now see is a reaction to globalization. The declining middle class and the classes at the bottom of society know they cannot trust the Left for it abandoned them and they can't trust the middle mainstream policial parties. So that is why they venture to the right.
Think what you think of these development but the Left only has themselves to blame because they abandoned their traditional base. And they keep being delusional about that with their air of selfrightiousness and their arrogance (like Clinton and the Democrats blaming everybody except themselves for the loss of the US elections).

Leonidas

pre 7 godina

That is why we need someone like Corbyn, who will clean things up and why he is a threat to the establishment.
(William UK,

I think you underestimate the mood in Britain which has moved massively to the right since the referendum of June the 23rd.Corbyn cannot win a national election firstly because he is speaking mostly only to Labour member and definite Labour voters, not to the general public who he has to speak to and secondly he is leading a divided party with clear divisions between MPs and rank and file membership on virtually all major policy issues.The ex Labour voters who voted for Brexit - he is not going to win those back after his speech and policy on immigration recently and the continuous demands of his MPS for a second referendum on the EU. Provided May delivers a successful Brexit i reckon Labour will become irrelevant at the next general election.

Andy UK

pre 7 godina

Sorry William but you're in for a shock if you think Corbyn will anything. He has a small, but vocal and dedicated support of middle-class lefties, but if you went into your average pub and asked about him, the vast majority will dismiss him as a dreamer at best, or a regressive left fool. His policies are stuck in the 1970s and he's just too much of a hippie for most.Sad to say, but Labour are likely to lose a lot of votes to UKIP who have a better idea of what the working classes want to hear.

William UK

pre 7 godina

The anti-establishment movement is gathering pace. It is not just right wingers. Jeremy Corbyn is left and he will lead the UK in the next election.

We have a system that relies on the people, the tax payers to bail out big business and banks but those very same firms would never bail out the people, in fact, they want to rob the people more and more.

In the UK, the government has announced spending £320 million renovating Buckingham palace, the home of one wealthy family but today we hear there are 250,000+ homeless people in this country.

That is why we need someone like Corbyn, who will clean things up and why he is a threat to the establishment.

Leonidas

pre 7 godina

“In Europe, whoever is elected, no matter where they are in the political spectrum, the policies are going to be the same, because they are not determined by the policies in their countries. The polices all go back to unelected bureaucracies and there’s no way for a EU country to act in its own interest," he said.


The European elite's naïve and selfish ideology has finally confronted reality.
They believed their own deluded propaganda about how their globalist, corporatist approach benefited everyone and leading everyone to their garden of utopia.
The result is that billionaires have driven a coach-and-horses through the national governments which were once ordinary people's only defence against the rapacity of rich psychopaths. They play them off against one another to drive down their tax bills and wage bills. Like it or not, the European Union's supranational government has been a prime engine for this, creating a weak federal government and weak "national" (i.e. provincial) governments, neither of which can protect the weak against the strong and the poor against the rich.
Major upsets are Italy next, France to follow, Germany in the summer. The death of the "European Project" is imminent. Perhaps we can then trade with each other, tariff free, working to similar specifications to quality, health and safety and working conditions without the nonsense of "freedom of movement of labour" and without the need for three presidents of the EU, Junker, Schultz and Tusk.

Dave Gordon

pre 7 godina

Nice to see Chomsky agreeing with the obvious: too many are refusing to acknowledge that corporatism died in 2008 with Lehmann Brothers, even though it's blisteringly apparent. One thing I would note though - Yanis Varoufakis did try and reform from within. The EU kicked his face off and made Greece swallow even worse bail out terms; and, in doing so, helped Golden Dawn immensely. I love Europe, but I won't miss this shambles of an EU.

Leonidas

pre 7 godina

“In Europe, whoever is elected, no matter where they are in the political spectrum, the policies are going to be the same, because they are not determined by the policies in their countries. The polices all go back to unelected bureaucracies and there’s no way for a EU country to act in its own interest," he said.


The European elite's naïve and selfish ideology has finally confronted reality.
They believed their own deluded propaganda about how their globalist, corporatist approach benefited everyone and leading everyone to their garden of utopia.
The result is that billionaires have driven a coach-and-horses through the national governments which were once ordinary people's only defence against the rapacity of rich psychopaths. They play them off against one another to drive down their tax bills and wage bills. Like it or not, the European Union's supranational government has been a prime engine for this, creating a weak federal government and weak "national" (i.e. provincial) governments, neither of which can protect the weak against the strong and the poor against the rich.
Major upsets are Italy next, France to follow, Germany in the summer. The death of the "European Project" is imminent. Perhaps we can then trade with each other, tariff free, working to similar specifications to quality, health and safety and working conditions without the nonsense of "freedom of movement of labour" and without the need for three presidents of the EU, Junker, Schultz and Tusk.

Dave Gordon

pre 7 godina

Nice to see Chomsky agreeing with the obvious: too many are refusing to acknowledge that corporatism died in 2008 with Lehmann Brothers, even though it's blisteringly apparent. One thing I would note though - Yanis Varoufakis did try and reform from within. The EU kicked his face off and made Greece swallow even worse bail out terms; and, in doing so, helped Golden Dawn immensely. I love Europe, but I won't miss this shambles of an EU.

Leonidas

pre 7 godina

That is why we need someone like Corbyn, who will clean things up and why he is a threat to the establishment.
(William UK,

I think you underestimate the mood in Britain which has moved massively to the right since the referendum of June the 23rd.Corbyn cannot win a national election firstly because he is speaking mostly only to Labour member and definite Labour voters, not to the general public who he has to speak to and secondly he is leading a divided party with clear divisions between MPs and rank and file membership on virtually all major policy issues.The ex Labour voters who voted for Brexit - he is not going to win those back after his speech and policy on immigration recently and the continuous demands of his MPS for a second referendum on the EU. Provided May delivers a successful Brexit i reckon Labour will become irrelevant at the next general election.

William UK

pre 7 godina

The anti-establishment movement is gathering pace. It is not just right wingers. Jeremy Corbyn is left and he will lead the UK in the next election.

We have a system that relies on the people, the tax payers to bail out big business and banks but those very same firms would never bail out the people, in fact, they want to rob the people more and more.

In the UK, the government has announced spending £320 million renovating Buckingham palace, the home of one wealthy family but today we hear there are 250,000+ homeless people in this country.

That is why we need someone like Corbyn, who will clean things up and why he is a threat to the establishment.

Andy UK

pre 7 godina

Sorry William but you're in for a shock if you think Corbyn will anything. He has a small, but vocal and dedicated support of middle-class lefties, but if you went into your average pub and asked about him, the vast majority will dismiss him as a dreamer at best, or a regressive left fool. His policies are stuck in the 1970s and he's just too much of a hippie for most.Sad to say, but Labour are likely to lose a lot of votes to UKIP who have a better idea of what the working classes want to hear.

Joe A

pre 7 godina

He seems to be forgetting that the Left in Europe embraced these neo-liberal policies. Firstly because they believed that globalization would be good for the world and create a 'one world'. Secondly, because they were filling their pockets left and right. Remember Labour (hello Blair) in the UK and Left/Labour parties elsewhere in Europe? They all embraced neo-liberalism and abandoned their traditional supporters (the workers) and traded them in for middle class and upper class 'Gutmensch' folks and immigrants. The middle class however, is declining in Europe and when you lose the middle class you lose their political support.
What you now see is a reaction to globalization. The declining middle class and the classes at the bottom of society know they cannot trust the Left for it abandoned them and they can't trust the middle mainstream policial parties. So that is why they venture to the right.
Think what you think of these development but the Left only has themselves to blame because they abandoned their traditional base. And they keep being delusional about that with their air of selfrightiousness and their arrogance (like Clinton and the Democrats blaming everybody except themselves for the loss of the US elections).

Comm. Parrisson

pre 7 godina

“If the union falls apart, I think it would be a tragic development,” Chomsky said, and blamed the failed neo-liberal policies of the past generation for influencing "such a significant rise in popularity of the right-wing parties."

I blame the leftist 'Gutmensch' policies who thought it would be smart to care more about immigrants, refugees, all kind of 'minorities', and forgetting about the majority, the working class, at the same time.

For me, the discussion in the USA about what toilets transgender people are allowed to use (as one of the 'major problems') is the most illustrative example for these ideas.

William UK

pre 7 godina

The anti-establishment movement is gathering pace. It is not just right wingers. Jeremy Corbyn is left and he will lead the UK in the next election.

We have a system that relies on the people, the tax payers to bail out big business and banks but those very same firms would never bail out the people, in fact, they want to rob the people more and more.

In the UK, the government has announced spending £320 million renovating Buckingham palace, the home of one wealthy family but today we hear there are 250,000+ homeless people in this country.

That is why we need someone like Corbyn, who will clean things up and why he is a threat to the establishment.

Leonidas

pre 7 godina

That is why we need someone like Corbyn, who will clean things up and why he is a threat to the establishment.
(William UK,

I think you underestimate the mood in Britain which has moved massively to the right since the referendum of June the 23rd.Corbyn cannot win a national election firstly because he is speaking mostly only to Labour member and definite Labour voters, not to the general public who he has to speak to and secondly he is leading a divided party with clear divisions between MPs and rank and file membership on virtually all major policy issues.The ex Labour voters who voted for Brexit - he is not going to win those back after his speech and policy on immigration recently and the continuous demands of his MPS for a second referendum on the EU. Provided May delivers a successful Brexit i reckon Labour will become irrelevant at the next general election.

Andy UK

pre 7 godina

Sorry William but you're in for a shock if you think Corbyn will anything. He has a small, but vocal and dedicated support of middle-class lefties, but if you went into your average pub and asked about him, the vast majority will dismiss him as a dreamer at best, or a regressive left fool. His policies are stuck in the 1970s and he's just too much of a hippie for most.Sad to say, but Labour are likely to lose a lot of votes to UKIP who have a better idea of what the working classes want to hear.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 7 godina

“If the union falls apart, I think it would be a tragic development,” Chomsky said, and blamed the failed neo-liberal policies of the past generation for influencing "such a significant rise in popularity of the right-wing parties."

I blame the leftist 'Gutmensch' policies who thought it would be smart to care more about immigrants, refugees, all kind of 'minorities', and forgetting about the majority, the working class, at the same time.

For me, the discussion in the USA about what toilets transgender people are allowed to use (as one of the 'major problems') is the most illustrative example for these ideas.

Dave Gordon

pre 7 godina

Nice to see Chomsky agreeing with the obvious: too many are refusing to acknowledge that corporatism died in 2008 with Lehmann Brothers, even though it's blisteringly apparent. One thing I would note though - Yanis Varoufakis did try and reform from within. The EU kicked his face off and made Greece swallow even worse bail out terms; and, in doing so, helped Golden Dawn immensely. I love Europe, but I won't miss this shambles of an EU.

Leonidas

pre 7 godina

“In Europe, whoever is elected, no matter where they are in the political spectrum, the policies are going to be the same, because they are not determined by the policies in their countries. The polices all go back to unelected bureaucracies and there’s no way for a EU country to act in its own interest," he said.


The European elite's naïve and selfish ideology has finally confronted reality.
They believed their own deluded propaganda about how their globalist, corporatist approach benefited everyone and leading everyone to their garden of utopia.
The result is that billionaires have driven a coach-and-horses through the national governments which were once ordinary people's only defence against the rapacity of rich psychopaths. They play them off against one another to drive down their tax bills and wage bills. Like it or not, the European Union's supranational government has been a prime engine for this, creating a weak federal government and weak "national" (i.e. provincial) governments, neither of which can protect the weak against the strong and the poor against the rich.
Major upsets are Italy next, France to follow, Germany in the summer. The death of the "European Project" is imminent. Perhaps we can then trade with each other, tariff free, working to similar specifications to quality, health and safety and working conditions without the nonsense of "freedom of movement of labour" and without the need for three presidents of the EU, Junker, Schultz and Tusk.

Joe A

pre 7 godina

He seems to be forgetting that the Left in Europe embraced these neo-liberal policies. Firstly because they believed that globalization would be good for the world and create a 'one world'. Secondly, because they were filling their pockets left and right. Remember Labour (hello Blair) in the UK and Left/Labour parties elsewhere in Europe? They all embraced neo-liberalism and abandoned their traditional supporters (the workers) and traded them in for middle class and upper class 'Gutmensch' folks and immigrants. The middle class however, is declining in Europe and when you lose the middle class you lose their political support.
What you now see is a reaction to globalization. The declining middle class and the classes at the bottom of society know they cannot trust the Left for it abandoned them and they can't trust the middle mainstream policial parties. So that is why they venture to the right.
Think what you think of these development but the Left only has themselves to blame because they abandoned their traditional base. And they keep being delusional about that with their air of selfrightiousness and their arrogance (like Clinton and the Democrats blaming everybody except themselves for the loss of the US elections).