Poor observer : “you just once more make a fool of yourself with your redicules comments…. Western Europeans absolutly dislike you, .. But, people in the former East absolutly hate you …. They distrust you deeply, and do not want to have anything to do with your fascist warmongering country. They beg NATO to station more troops at your borders … That applies to all former Soviet / Russian satellites in the east.”
(observer, 16 May 2016 13:51)
Why do you write this rubbish? The most un-liked country in the world is the US and that is a fact. After numerous wars in the world started by the US do you actually think that people love Washington?
Ask the people living in Australia, New Zealand, France, Italy or Germany and so, and they will tell you that the US is responsible for the most deaths in the Middle East.
You have no idea who or what wants NATO. People are never asked about anything mate. It’s all politics. They install governments that will promulgate their crap. Tomorrow if the Russians install the government in Poland they would sing the praises of Moscow.
The world would be a safer place without people like you paraphrasing US spin.
you just once more make a fool of yourself with your redicules comments. The public vote was used for the first time this year, and most probably was rigged by russia. There are lots of ways to do this when telephone or ip based voting systems are used. Russia has a historia with lying and cheating and I am 100% positive they did it as well in this competition. The FSB and other russian criminals took care of that. The national juries in the West consist of well known musicians and not state sponsored yes men like in Russia, but that is a concept unknown to you. You actually think Russia is liked in the rest of the world? Where do you live? Russia most likley is the most unliked country in the world. Western Europeans absolutly dislike you, except for some right wing fascist assholes which Putin supports financially like Le Pen, etc. But, people in the former East absolutly hate you. They had first hand experience in what you are like. They distrust you deeply, and do not want to have anything to do with your fascist warmongering country. They beg NATO to station more troops at your borders because they want to be protected from you. That applies to all former Soviet / Russian satellites in the east. As I said, only the right wing fascist trust you, and I guess they have a reason. Putin is their hero, and that says it all. No, we don't want any of your political system. The world would be a better and saver place without Putin-Russia.
Observer : I am so glad Ukraine won, and this showed the world again, that fascist Putin-Russia is a dictatorship nobody wants to have anything to do with.
You must have not watched the show. Otherwise you would know that Europe voted for Russia and so we have won the game! But because the USA knew of the increased sympathies for Russia they implemented this new method of cutting wings when 5 unknown persons in each state vote parallel to the peoples. This year they meant to pull Australia and to stop Russia. But as it always happen to the Yankees something went wrong and Ukraine got the prize. In fact I am very happy about it because Ukraine is also Russia. Besides it will be funny to see if the Ukraine is to survive this year and how are they going to have the show in the Nazi Kiev. Also where they will take money for it. I am really happy as it will help Russia unmask the West in Ukraine. By the way I liked only I DIDN'T KNOW song mocking Leonard Cohen.
(Nikolle, 13 May 2016 18:06)
I’ve read that nonsense about borrowing from the IMF, but that was no loan. Well they did try and sell it as a loan, but rest assured it was not. It was aid.
Now on the issue of the Croatian economy and it being larger that Serbia’s, I agree that the WB, IMF, various EU financial institutions will corroborate that fact. However, these same well established and transparent institutions have the US as the No.1 world economy when China surpassed it in September 2014.
Then we have Standard and Poors recent downgrading of the Chinese economy due to “high levels of debt” which is laughable considering the situation with the US and its level debt while still holding the AAA rating, and you wonder why I have no time for any information provided by western institutions.
However, as an economist you would know how Croatia manages to earn this high standard of living since tourism is its only source of income. Please regale us with this story.
Don’t worry why Serbia is important. It only goes over your head anyway.
Did it ever occur to you the so-called radioactive crops you speak of, 80% find their way to Serbia for Belgraders to consume.
You never seem to learn, you're constantly being hoisted by your own petard. hee, hee hee!
(The Count of Kosova, 14 May 2016 05:40)
Well Lord of the Dance, having been to Kosovo and having seen it first-hand I can say to you that it does not reach Belgrade or any other part of Serbia. I actually asked that same question when I was in Serbia and they said that they would not allow anything from Kosovo, especially green vegetables, period.
But that is a theoretical scenario since Kosovo is a net importer of food not an exporter, mate.
Yeah I’m hoisted by my own petard, but it’s your Albanians that are dying in record numbers from cancers due to the depleted uranium. Enjoy the U-235 with your cornflakes hee, hee hee.
(Nikolle, 13 May 2016 18:06)
I’ve read that nonsense about borrowing from the IMF, but that was no loan. Well they did try and sell it as a loan, but rest assured it was not. It was aid.
Now on the issue of the Croatian economy and it being larger that Serbia’s, I agree that the WB, IMF, various EU financial institutions will corroborate that fact. However, these same well established and transparent institutions have the US as the No.1 world economy when China surpassed it in September 2014.
Then we have Standard and Poors recent downgrading of the Chinese economy due to “high levels of debt” which is laughable considering the situation with the US and its level debt while still holding the AAA rating, and you wonder why I have no time for any information provided by western institutions.
However, as an economist you would know how Croatia manages to earn this high standard of living since tourism is its only source of income. Please regale us with this story.
Don’t worry why Serbia is important. It only goes over your head anyway.
Serbia is the only country in EUROPE who has been given condition to GIVE UP YOUR SERBIA IN EXCHANGE FOR EU MEMBERSHIP
(Blue Angel, 15 May 2016 15:26)
There is not any condition to Serbia to "GIVE UP YOUR SERBIA IN EXCHANGE FOR EU MEMBERSHIP". Not sure how you did come up with that nonsense mate!
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Why is Serbia so desperate to enter EU when other EU Members countries WANTS EU EXIT ??
(Blue Angel, 15 May 2016 15:26)
Which are these EU Members countries WANTING EU EXIT?! They might be surprised to learn that a certain Blue Angel has decided for them that they want EU exit :)
The reason we have borders in EU is becase there are 20 countries, different cultures & languages, and we want to remain that way. We are not "EuroSoviet people".
I am so glad Ukraine won, and this showed the world again, that fascist Putin-Russia is a dictatorship nobody wants to have anything to do with. The whole thing creates more bad press for Russia, and reminds people that nothing real good came from your country in the past 100 years +. Only death, killings, destruction, crime and dictatorships. Normal peace loving people don't want any of that , and can live without. Besides that the russian song was actually very dumb and primitive. simply ceap, but only had some good visual effects. It did not deserve to win. It would not surprise me if the russian KGB or FSB also rigged the public vote. Nothing new in your country. They also rigged the Sochi Olympic games and helped Russian athletes with their in Russia common Doping practices as everybody knows now by now. Russia, a country and criminal society build on lies, cheating, wars, killing people, or putting them in gulags. The world would be a better and saver place without you.
Serbia is the only country in EUROPE who has been given condition to GIVE UP YOUR SERBIA IN EXCHANGE FOR EU MEMBERSHIP This is the worst negotiation deal I ever seen Why would anyone in theirs right mind agree to such Bad deal. Serbia Should ask DONALD TRUMP for help with that Problem Mr Trump is the master Negotiator. Why is Serbia so desperate to enter EU when other EU Members countries WANTS EU EXIT ??
NOW THAT RUSSIA IS UNDER A TOTAL PRESSURE IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THE OFFICIALS VOTED FOR RUSSIA. WE ALL KNOW THAT COMMON PEOPLE OF EUROPE GAVE RUSSIA THE FIRST PLACE SO IT'S HARD TO SAY THAT OUR SONG HAD NO CULTURAL VALUE. BUT SERBIA SENT THEIR RUSSOPHOBES SELLOUT LIBERASTS TO REPRESENT THE COUNTRY ... THEN THEY GET SURPRISED WHY RUSSIA MISTRUSTS VUCIC.
Результаты голосования от жюри за Россию:
Азербайджан – 12 Испания – 4 Франция – 1 Молодова – 7 Армения – 2 Кипр – 12 Болгария – 6 Латвия – 7 Беларусь – 12 Хорватия – 6 Греция – 12 Сербия – 1 Албания – 7 Черногория – 8 Швеция – 6 Остальные страны от жюри не дали российскому исполнителю ни одного балла.
Why not recognize Kosovo? We have no authority there and it's only a tool for our politicians to run various scams. We should just recognize it and let the people of Kosovo go their own way, and at some point in the future, we might both forget the ugly past and be friendly neighbors. If we are truly better than they are, as we claim, we should focus on real problems, not a piece of land that is not even ours.
(Vojvodina, 14 May 2016 11:47)
To Shqip Vojvodina,
We as you write is not correct!. You are A Shiptar ,and are one of us.So don't try fooling the Serb's, because they are not that Stupid and know you are a Shqip!.
We ,Vojvodina should allow the Serb's who really live in Vojvodina to vote for what they want.
P's See you at the (Islamic state) meetings in the mosque in PEC,my brother!.
I think EU is paying corrupt serbian government of today to join your shit union.
(Zoran Markovic, 14 May 2016 03:09)
So, that's because you "think" not because you have any evidence!!! Not to mentioned that the evidence contradicts what you wrote because the CE of B92 forums sj has ruled that the EU is broke and has run out of cash therefore it is impossible for the EU to pay anybody!
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Because most if not all Serbs will never say kosovo is albanian.
(Zoran Markovic, 14 May 2016 03:09)
It is the business of Serbs what they want to say or not to say. That's totally immaterial to Kosovo like it is totally immaterial to the US whether Serbs say that US in British or not :)
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Kosovo was and will always be a part of Serbia if you like that or not.
(Zoran Markovic, 14 May 2016 03:09)
Woow... So you are saying that Kosovo was a part of Serbia since the year 4,543,000,000 BC when Earth came into existence lol
There are only 193 countries in the UN
(Navi, 14 May 2016 00:10)
Yup like there are only 28 countries in the EU, only 162 countries in the IOM, only 191 countries in the ICAO, etc etc... Not sure though what your point is other than stating the number of members of an international organization!!!
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and Kosovo isn't recognized as one.
(Navi, 14 May 2016 00:10)
According to the UN, the UN does not have any authority to recognize a state or government. So yes, you are correct that Kosovo, like Serbia and any other state in the world is not recognized by the UN.
Why not recognize Kosovo? We have no authority there and it's only a tool for our politicians to run various scams. We should just recognize it and let the people of Kosovo go their own way, and at some point in the future, we might both forget the ugly past and be friendly neighbors. If we are truly better than they are, as we claim, we should focus on real problems, not a piece of land that is not even ours.
The bigger issue is why would she come out and openly make such a 'controversial statement'?
(cry me a river, 13 May 2016 15:42)
She didn't make a statement, she made a comment on the side. It is not an official statement, it's her opinion, and she's had this opinion for years. Doesn't mean it's true because no one else has said it, and something like this isn't included in Serbia's formal EU membership talks. You're making this out to be more than it is.
(the actual truth, 13 May 2016 19:18)
actual,
You seem to be confused or wish to make this of River's doing.
The headline is b92's reporting, no one else. Stop dreaming, you'll wake up with a hangover.
By the way have all those countries that granted Kosovo its independence paid to have the depleted uranium removed yet? You know where today Albanians plough and harvest and breath in that air?
(sj, 13 May 2016 17:53)
sj,
Did it ever occur to you the so-called radioactive crops you speak of, 80% find their way to Serbia for Belgraders to consume.
You never seem to learn, you're constantly being hoisted by your own petard. hee, hee hee!
Well serbia doesnt want to join EU, it never wanted to join in the first place.I think EU is paying corrupt serbian government of today to join your shit union.Because most if not all Serbs will never say kosovo is albanian.Kosovo was and will always be a part of Serbia if you like that or not.
Guy's I don't understand one thing from some of you Serbian people.Kosovo is gone once a forever there's not even to dream of it is done.Now you should think for future to leave you guy's together and not to hate each other. Look Albanian they don't care who is Kosovo or Serbian they lesson Serbian music everywhere .And Albanian media never making propaganda.you Guy's you have to expect the reality of today.look at you .you use to big country but all gone i think is a reason so be happy and enjoying the life God give us.Not the Prist or Imam.Thank you
B92-you are so late KOSOVA is in FIFA thanks World
(agRONio, 13 May 2016 21:08)
B92 reported it immediately on its Serbian mirror. Kosovo became a member right before Gibraltar was also granted membership. That makes two non-sovereign territories given membership, bringing FIFA's members to 211. There are only 193 countries in the UN and Kosovo isn't recognized as one. Congratulations. Kosovo's membership, like UEFA, was admitted as a territory or region of another sovereign state. Nothing surprising.
By the way have all those countries that granted Kosovo its independence paid to have the depleted uranium removed yet?
(sj, 13 May 2016 17:53)
No, why? Is broken Serbia going to pay for it if Kosovo asks to become part of Serbia again? Or perhaps the CE of B92 forums sj will command Serbia's government to pay for the cleanup considering how concerned the CE of B92 forums sj is for Kosovo's wellbeing :)
Wow, she nailed it she left no gap to doubt anything. I wonder what the Serbian politicians will say now, and who will they complain to?
(Guest, 13 May 2016 10:04)
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LOL! Maybe you should read the article first before commenting. If you did, you need to work on comprehension.
well, Ulrike was just proven right again, even if the vote which was just casted at the FIFA congress in Mexico effects sports. Nevertheless it is also a political vote. 86% voted in fafour of Kosovo becoming a full fletched member of FIFA. The deputy president of the serb football federation tried all his dirty tricks and lies, but it didn't help. 86% in fafour is a slap into Serbia's face, and shows once more that Serbia is on a loosing track. Nobody takes your claim 'Kosovo is Serbia' serious anymore, no matter how these pompous serb ultra nationls like sj, Peggy, etc here claim. You are a dying breed. Congratulations Kosovo, you deserved it!!!
The bigger issue is why would she come out and openly make such a 'controversial statement'?
(cry me a river, 13 May 2016 15:42)
She didn't make a statement, she made a comment on the side. It is not an official statement, it's her opinion, and she's had this opinion for years. Doesn't mean it's true because no one else has said it, and something like this isn't included in Serbia's formal EU membership talks. You're making this out to be more than it is.
Ulrike Lunacek has said that she is "not an enemy of Serbia" and that she is "certain Serbia will not join the EU without recognizing Kosovo."
SOURCE: TANJUG FRIDAY, 13.05.2016. | 09:45
Thank you for your worthless opion,Miss Lunacek.When Merkel and the people in position talk,Serbia will know and us Albanian's will be happy.
Otherwise, we will not get excited just yet,and stop being a tease to us Albanian's!.
I've already replied to that borrowing thing, that you can't be bothered to read is not my problem.
"f you don’t understand why Serbia is so important..." what does this even mean? So Serbia is not only important, but its SO important, a level up from merely being relevant. totally meaningless statement that only makes in your head.
For an economist you make many ridiculous statements but then you could not explain how Kosovo was going to borrow and borrow to pay for an army when most of its income is EU aid and no financial institution would lend you a Euro and that includes the IMF or WB.
Sometimes politics and policy changes year by year, but after a decade and half, there is a huge difference and what was seen as a priority in 1999 is not that important today and you should know that.
If you don’t understand why Serbia is so important there is no point in me trying to explain it. By the way have all those countries that granted Kosovo its independence paid to have the depleted uranium removed yet? You know where today Albanians plough and harvest and breath in that air?
Hope you are now wiser knowing what was important 10 years ago and what is important today.
So the article title says "Serbia must recognize Kosovo to join EU" - EP official
Which should be fodder enough for the comment section.
Of course reading the article, we hear Lunacek, whose been singing the same one hit wonder for over 10 years now, "made these comments on the sidelines" of some obscure conference she attended, which is little more than an NGO-hosted event.
We also hear she said "It is true that the recognition of Kosovo is not formulated in the EU acquis, or in any of the chapters", making the first statement little more than an opinion when compared with official policy. Her reference of Cyprus doesn't and shouldn't give much hope to those pro-Kosova pundits here.
But thanks B92 for the deliberate clickbait. It got most of the usual keyboard warriors of Cyber Illyria to post all sorts of irrelevant boasts only after reading the article title instead of the article itself.
(icj1, 13 May 2016 13:56)
Once again our resident AI, icj, babbles on and on. When unable to respond our resident icj1, 2 or 3 then goes into a foetal position and rocks backwards and forwards and out comes this CE of B92 quote LOL, and then makes a feeble attempt to turn the situation around much like a primary school child in the school yard.
All signs of deep psychiatric issues. Just keep on rolling backwards and forwards and repeat sj, CE of B92, sj CE of B92. LOL.
(Bilbao, 13 May 2016 14:23)
I don’t have evident at all but in my opinion everything said so far does not point to Serbia wanting to join the EU. I think they are draining every last Euro before pulling the pin.
After this refugee issue and closing of borders by individual EU members I very much doubt that you will have a united Europe. In fact Brussels had to extend the border closure simply to remain in step with members, but in reality the individual states would not obey Brussels.
The EU is in a financial mess. Printing money to kick start their economy is not a good sign, next on the trouble scale after Greece, Spain Portugal and Ireland is Italy and France. The rich countries are complaining having to pay for the poor members. Visa free travel is nothing. I used it last year and you still have to line up at the borders to have your passport stamped.
Serbia’s importance? It takes 3 days from Berlin to Istanbul via Serbia or 7 around it and every army in history that had to go to the east had to pass through Serbia. That is why Serbia is important.
FIFA and UEFA and what eve else is meaningless. It like giving Albanians in Kosovo access to the international space station. Its pointless. You need UN recognition.
Serbs do not take kindly to having their property taken by thieves.
(icj1, 13 May 2016 13:56)
Once again our resident AI, icj, babbles on and on. When unable to respond our resident icj1, 2 or 3 then goes into a foetal position and rocks backwards and forwards and out comes this CE of B92 quote LOL, and then makes a feeble attempt to turn the situation around much like a primary school child in the school yard.
All signs of deep psychiatric issues. Just keep on rolling backwards and forwards and repeat sj, CE of B92, sj CE of B92. LOL.
@ Ari Gold
Pray that Europe never fall – if not just look the example of Middle East in which Saudi Arabia is one of the most rich countrys in middle of an “broken” and fallen continent.
So, you are enough smart to understand what it mean.
The Christian Europe? That Christian Europe in which gays are married in Church? That Christian Europe in which priests abuse which children?
That Chistian Europe in which the highest state authorities are involved in pedofilia? That Christian world in which the role of the Church was saintly, ooooo I have a headache thinking about it.. you know maybe, maybe for sure I don’t even want it.
Don’t talk to me to that Christian world which is losing all the “values” and are sending in fire half of the world and then complain – so don't even permit yourself to talk in the name of god.
Could you tell to me how the drug enter in Netherland? Does she do all the procedures in custom eee ? This is Europe – who broke it own rules.
And please, because just god know how many innocent Syrians children, women, men, die every day just because the so called devoted Chistians like yourself pay for a kidney, a heart, eye… This is not the Europe I want.
"It takes 3 days from Berlin to Istanbul via Serbia or 7 around it and every army in history that had to go to the east had to pass through Serbia. "
how did the EU ever cope when Serbia was isolated from it during Sloba's era! Serbia is important!! dear oh dear. Italy is important. Germany is important. Serbia is insignificant. if it was, it would not have been bombed in 1999 and Kosovo would not have been granted independence by the those who apperantly view Serbia as important
As someone who doesn't want Serbia to join the EU, I find this news positive. As someone who knows that Serbia will never join the EU whether they recognize the amputation of its territory or not, I find Lunacek's statement pointless. But she's been on the KLA payroll for years now so nothing surprising. Just drag your feet, get some of these EU funds before it's all over http://www.thepressproject.gr/details_en.php?aid=93654
fine, this is what you should do, petition your local MEP (where ever it is that you come from) and ask that Albania and Kosovo not be made candidate states for EU accession. However, the politics of the EU, suggest that it wants to integrate both Kosovo and Albania. You can type DOES NOT in as many capitals as you like, you're still wrong
When Merkel makes this type of statement then you might say OK Serbia has to decide, but she never will do that. Ask yourself is Kosovo more important to the EU than Serbia? It’s not.
(sj, 13 May 2016 12:28)
Merkel has said it just not open as it's not her style, just like Vucic lets his pawns do the talking. Serbia is no more important or less its a country that has issues to join a club.
By your logic then EU would not have added special chapter 35 if Kosovo was not important, but EU is past Balkan syndrome long ago they look at it as a problem not importance.
Serbia does not have all borders defines as per 23 out of 28 countries as they see your border at Merdare, so they have already made the claim just Serbian goat still believes can graze where it wants.
This came after election so UEAF and FIFA ( this is why the rush to elections in April) no secret. Kosovo got visa-free separate from Serbia, everything is going on separate so why is it like that.
Only Serbia beleives that 23 is smaller than 5! Now after 110 countries have recognised it your President says oh majoraty of Humanity due to India and CHina does not accept Kosovo but year before never said that, and world runs on 1 for q not number of people.
17 years since last Serb troups left, and no one from Serbia has provided something that would make Albanians want to live with you as same country, you can not even take opinion in the forum from them let alone live together.
Merkel has said this lots of times. What do you think normalization means? It means Serbia has a referendum where the removal of Kosovo is on the ballot paving the way for Kosovo recognition by Serbia. Merkel has said exactly what lunacek said.
Nikolic has response to that by stating Serbia will not let Kosovo go
(sj, 13 May 2016 12:28)
Go where?! I wasn't aware that a piece of land can move lol Not to mention that the impact on Kosovo of Nikolic responses is the same as the impact that, say, a response from Mugabe would have :)
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and if they don’t want Serbia in the EU then too bad.
(sj, 13 May 2016 12:28)
Yup, I think Serbia should follow the wishes of Kosovo and the CE of B92 forums sj and not join the EU.
AgroNio,
Ask yourself following:
Why would Christian Europe with raising right wing parties want 100% ultra aggressive Albanians who support IS in?
If we add all these problems with terror attacks across Europe, drug smuggling & human trafficking.
Unless rotten politician are bought by drug & human trafficking money Europe DOES NOT want Albanians.
Bravo Ulrike!!! It was time a high ranking EU official made this perfectly clear. It carries even more weight that she made this statement in Serbia and not as before in Brussels or Vienna. Even other European leaders do not use the same wording, they think the same way, and not to forget the EU population. It will be impossible to people understand that Serbia can join the EU if it has territorial problems with Kosovo. Besides that people will not tollerate that a country which adores it's convicted war criminals as heros, and who has such an unfrelected view of war crimes it committed as Serbia does. A huge majority of people within the EU are against a Serbia joining as it is presenting itself as it is now. If Serbia wants to become a EU member, a lot, an awful lot has to be changed.
(observer, 13 May 2016 11:30) # C
To Observer,
First time ,you Observed correctly.
Serbia will be neutral, eventually.
P's as well, she stated that there is no conditions in the Chapters to let go of Kosovo.
I love this lady, as she has the BA..'S to travel to Belgrade and dictate the conditions to radical Serbia inorder for Serbia to become a EU member!!! I've stated many times here that inorder for Serbia to achieve EU membership she will need to formally recognize the independent Republic Of Kosova, she will have to allow for NATO bases inside of Serbia itself, she will have to completely change her constitution to bring it in line with the EU's!!! Serbia better get on board rather soon as her last lines of life support are be cut 1by1 with very few remaining, and the people's in neighboring countries she once tried to exterminate are getting stronger & stronger by the day with these people's eagerly waiting for the day for some serious payback on Serbia!!! It's all in black N white in your face Serbia where will you turn to now?
http://www.b92.net/eng/comments.php?nav_id=97993
http://www.b92.net/eng/news/world.php?yyyy=2016&mm=05&dd=12&nav_id=97987
(observer, 13 May 2016 11:30)
Sadly for you guys this Ulrike is a no body in the scheme of things because when push comes to shove she does what she is told. You should try and get a job in the EP and see for yourself. It’s a retirement village for worn out European party hacks where respective governing political parties send their worn and tired and huddling masses as payment for services rendered or just to get rid of them.
The EP is not a real Parliament nor was it designed as such.
I have lost count of the number of these so called high officials who come out and make claims such as Serbia will not join the EU without recognising Kosovo.
Nikolic has response to that by stating Serbia will not let Kosovo go and if they don’t want Serbia in the EU then too bad.
Remember Doris Pack? LOL. Everything this lady said would never occur has already been signed off on LOL.
When Merkel makes this type of statement then you might say OK Serbia has to decide, but she never will do that. Ask yourself is Kosovo more important to the EU than Serbia? It’s not.
Serbs are very naïve or may pretend to be naïve nation.
What is Europe saying is "We do not want:
- drug & human trafficking lords who run Kosovo;
- 100% Muslim region with lot of IS supporters
in Europe, so if Serbia wants in majority Christian then it needs to get rid of cancer called Kosovo.
It is very hard to take in.
Take it in a positive way :
Europe wants us not them!!!!!
Bravo Ulrike!!! It was time a high ranking EU official made this perfectly clear. It carries even more weight that she made this statement in Serbia and not as before in Brussels or Vienna. Even other European leaders do not use the same wording, they think the same way, and not to forget the EU population. It will be impossible to people understand that Serbia can join the EU if it has territorial problems with Kosovo. Besides that people will not tollerate that a country which adores it's convicted war criminals as heros, and who has such an unfrelected view of war crimes it committed as Serbia does. A huge majority of people within the EU are against a Serbia joining as it is presenting itself as it is now. If Serbia wants to become a EU member, a lot, an awful lot has to be changed.
Wow, she nailed it she left no gap to doubt anything. I wonder what the Serbian politicians will say now, and who will they complain to? Usually they love to come out and urge EU to tell others to refrain themselves from certaj topics or messages. This is a nail to Serbia's coffin.
Serbia has already recognised Kosovo's independence in 2013 (Brussels Agreement) so I don't understand why this clown states otherwise. However I find it funny how she made this comment right after the Serbian elections and not before it. It looks like Vucic will have to go back to Langley, Virginia to get a desk job because his dream of joining the EU is falling apart haha!
Why not recognize Kosovo? We have no authority there and it's only a tool for our politicians to run various scams. We should just recognize it and let the people of Kosovo go their own way, and at some point in the future, we might both forget the ugly past and be friendly neighbors. If we are truly better than they are, as we claim, we should focus on real problems, not a piece of land that is not even ours.
well, Ulrike was just proven right again, even if the vote which was just casted at the FIFA congress in Mexico effects sports. Nevertheless it is also a political vote. 86% voted in fafour of Kosovo becoming a full fletched member of FIFA. The deputy president of the serb football federation tried all his dirty tricks and lies, but it didn't help. 86% in fafour is a slap into Serbia's face, and shows once more that Serbia is on a loosing track. Nobody takes your claim 'Kosovo is Serbia' serious anymore, no matter how these pompous serb ultra nationls like sj, Peggy, etc here claim. You are a dying breed. Congratulations Kosovo, you deserved it!!!
Wow, she nailed it she left no gap to doubt anything. I wonder what the Serbian politicians will say now, and who will they complain to? Usually they love to come out and urge EU to tell others to refrain themselves from certaj topics or messages. This is a nail to Serbia's coffin.
Bravo Ulrike!!! It was time a high ranking EU official made this perfectly clear. It carries even more weight that she made this statement in Serbia and not as before in Brussels or Vienna. Even other European leaders do not use the same wording, they think the same way, and not to forget the EU population. It will be impossible to people understand that Serbia can join the EU if it has territorial problems with Kosovo. Besides that people will not tollerate that a country which adores it's convicted war criminals as heros, and who has such an unfrelected view of war crimes it committed as Serbia does. A huge majority of people within the EU are against a Serbia joining as it is presenting itself as it is now. If Serbia wants to become a EU member, a lot, an awful lot has to be changed.
fine, this is what you should do, petition your local MEP (where ever it is that you come from) and ask that Albania and Kosovo not be made candidate states for EU accession. However, the politics of the EU, suggest that it wants to integrate both Kosovo and Albania. You can type DOES NOT in as many capitals as you like, you're still wrong
As someone who doesn't want Serbia to join the EU, I find this news positive. As someone who knows that Serbia will never join the EU whether they recognize the amputation of its territory or not, I find Lunacek's statement pointless. But she's been on the KLA payroll for years now so nothing surprising. Just drag your feet, get some of these EU funds before it's all over http://www.thepressproject.gr/details_en.php?aid=93654
When Merkel makes this type of statement then you might say OK Serbia has to decide, but she never will do that. Ask yourself is Kosovo more important to the EU than Serbia? It’s not.
(sj, 13 May 2016 12:28)
Merkel has said it just not open as it's not her style, just like Vucic lets his pawns do the talking. Serbia is no more important or less its a country that has issues to join a club.
By your logic then EU would not have added special chapter 35 if Kosovo was not important, but EU is past Balkan syndrome long ago they look at it as a problem not importance.
Serbia does not have all borders defines as per 23 out of 28 countries as they see your border at Merdare, so they have already made the claim just Serbian goat still believes can graze where it wants.
This came after election so UEAF and FIFA ( this is why the rush to elections in April) no secret. Kosovo got visa-free separate from Serbia, everything is going on separate so why is it like that.
Only Serbia beleives that 23 is smaller than 5! Now after 110 countries have recognised it your President says oh majoraty of Humanity due to India and CHina does not accept Kosovo but year before never said that, and world runs on 1 for q not number of people.
17 years since last Serb troups left, and no one from Serbia has provided something that would make Albanians want to live with you as same country, you can not even take opinion in the forum from them let alone live together.
"It takes 3 days from Berlin to Istanbul via Serbia or 7 around it and every army in history that had to go to the east had to pass through Serbia. "
how did the EU ever cope when Serbia was isolated from it during Sloba's era! Serbia is important!! dear oh dear. Italy is important. Germany is important. Serbia is insignificant. if it was, it would not have been bombed in 1999 and Kosovo would not have been granted independence by the those who apperantly view Serbia as important
I love this lady, as she has the BA..'S to travel to Belgrade and dictate the conditions to radical Serbia inorder for Serbia to become a EU member!!! I've stated many times here that inorder for Serbia to achieve EU membership she will need to formally recognize the independent Republic Of Kosova, she will have to allow for NATO bases inside of Serbia itself, she will have to completely change her constitution to bring it in line with the EU's!!! Serbia better get on board rather soon as her last lines of life support are be cut 1by1 with very few remaining, and the people's in neighboring countries she once tried to exterminate are getting stronger & stronger by the day with these people's eagerly waiting for the day for some serious payback on Serbia!!! It's all in black N white in your face Serbia where will you turn to now?
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(Bilbao, 13 May 2016 14:23)
I don’t have evident at all but in my opinion everything said so far does not point to Serbia wanting to join the EU. I think they are draining every last Euro before pulling the pin.
After this refugee issue and closing of borders by individual EU members I very much doubt that you will have a united Europe. In fact Brussels had to extend the border closure simply to remain in step with members, but in reality the individual states would not obey Brussels.
The EU is in a financial mess. Printing money to kick start their economy is not a good sign, next on the trouble scale after Greece, Spain Portugal and Ireland is Italy and France. The rich countries are complaining having to pay for the poor members. Visa free travel is nothing. I used it last year and you still have to line up at the borders to have your passport stamped.
Serbia’s importance? It takes 3 days from Berlin to Istanbul via Serbia or 7 around it and every army in history that had to go to the east had to pass through Serbia. That is why Serbia is important.
FIFA and UEFA and what eve else is meaningless. It like giving Albanians in Kosovo access to the international space station. Its pointless. You need UN recognition.
Serbs do not take kindly to having their property taken by thieves.
Serbia has already recognised Kosovo's independence in 2013 (Brussels Agreement) so I don't understand why this clown states otherwise. However I find it funny how she made this comment right after the Serbian elections and not before it. It looks like Vucic will have to go back to Langley, Virginia to get a desk job because his dream of joining the EU is falling apart haha!
The Christian Europe? That Christian Europe in which gays are married in Church? That Christian Europe in which priests abuse which children?
That Chistian Europe in which the highest state authorities are involved in pedofilia? That Christian world in which the role of the Church was saintly, ooooo I have a headache thinking about it.. you know maybe, maybe for sure I don’t even want it.
Don’t talk to me to that Christian world which is losing all the “values” and are sending in fire half of the world and then complain – so don't even permit yourself to talk in the name of god.
Could you tell to me how the drug enter in Netherland? Does she do all the procedures in custom eee ? This is Europe – who broke it own rules.
And please, because just god know how many innocent Syrians children, women, men, die every day just because the so called devoted Chistians like yourself pay for a kidney, a heart, eye… This is not the Europe I want.
(observer, 13 May 2016 11:30)
Sadly for you guys this Ulrike is a no body in the scheme of things because when push comes to shove she does what she is told. You should try and get a job in the EP and see for yourself. It’s a retirement village for worn out European party hacks where respective governing political parties send their worn and tired and huddling masses as payment for services rendered or just to get rid of them.
The EP is not a real Parliament nor was it designed as such.
I have lost count of the number of these so called high officials who come out and make claims such as Serbia will not join the EU without recognising Kosovo.
Nikolic has response to that by stating Serbia will not let Kosovo go and if they don’t want Serbia in the EU then too bad.
Remember Doris Pack? LOL. Everything this lady said would never occur has already been signed off on LOL.
When Merkel makes this type of statement then you might say OK Serbia has to decide, but she never will do that. Ask yourself is Kosovo more important to the EU than Serbia? It’s not.
So the article title says "Serbia must recognize Kosovo to join EU" - EP official
Which should be fodder enough for the comment section.
Of course reading the article, we hear Lunacek, whose been singing the same one hit wonder for over 10 years now, "made these comments on the sidelines" of some obscure conference she attended, which is little more than an NGO-hosted event.
We also hear she said "It is true that the recognition of Kosovo is not formulated in the EU acquis, or in any of the chapters", making the first statement little more than an opinion when compared with official policy. Her reference of Cyprus doesn't and shouldn't give much hope to those pro-Kosova pundits here.
But thanks B92 for the deliberate clickbait. It got most of the usual keyboard warriors of Cyber Illyria to post all sorts of irrelevant boasts only after reading the article title instead of the article itself.
For an economist you make many ridiculous statements but then you could not explain how Kosovo was going to borrow and borrow to pay for an army when most of its income is EU aid and no financial institution would lend you a Euro and that includes the IMF or WB.
Sometimes politics and policy changes year by year, but after a decade and half, there is a huge difference and what was seen as a priority in 1999 is not that important today and you should know that.
If you don’t understand why Serbia is so important there is no point in me trying to explain it. By the way have all those countries that granted Kosovo its independence paid to have the depleted uranium removed yet? You know where today Albanians plough and harvest and breath in that air?
Hope you are now wiser knowing what was important 10 years ago and what is important today.
Well serbia doesnt want to join EU, it never wanted to join in the first place.I think EU is paying corrupt serbian government of today to join your shit union.Because most if not all Serbs will never say kosovo is albanian.Kosovo was and will always be a part of Serbia if you like that or not.
By the way have all those countries that granted Kosovo its independence paid to have the depleted uranium removed yet? You know where today Albanians plough and harvest and breath in that air?
(sj, 13 May 2016 17:53)
sj,
Did it ever occur to you the so-called radioactive crops you speak of, 80% find their way to Serbia for Belgraders to consume.
You never seem to learn, you're constantly being hoisted by your own petard. hee, hee hee!
Merkel has said this lots of times. What do you think normalization means? It means Serbia has a referendum where the removal of Kosovo is on the ballot paving the way for Kosovo recognition by Serbia. Merkel has said exactly what lunacek said.
@ Ari Gold
Pray that Europe never fall – if not just look the example of Middle East in which Saudi Arabia is one of the most rich countrys in middle of an “broken” and fallen continent.
So, you are enough smart to understand what it mean.
Guy's I don't understand one thing from some of you Serbian people.Kosovo is gone once a forever there's not even to dream of it is done.Now you should think for future to leave you guy's together and not to hate each other. Look Albanian they don't care who is Kosovo or Serbian they lesson Serbian music everywhere .And Albanian media never making propaganda.you Guy's you have to expect the reality of today.look at you .you use to big country but all gone i think is a reason so be happy and enjoying the life God give us.Not the Prist or Imam.Thank you
Nikolic has response to that by stating Serbia will not let Kosovo go
(sj, 13 May 2016 12:28)
Go where?! I wasn't aware that a piece of land can move lol Not to mention that the impact on Kosovo of Nikolic responses is the same as the impact that, say, a response from Mugabe would have :)
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and if they don’t want Serbia in the EU then too bad.
(sj, 13 May 2016 12:28)
Yup, I think Serbia should follow the wishes of Kosovo and the CE of B92 forums sj and not join the EU.
Serbs are very naïve or may pretend to be naïve nation.
What is Europe saying is "We do not want:
- drug & human trafficking lords who run Kosovo;
- 100% Muslim region with lot of IS supporters
in Europe, so if Serbia wants in majority Christian then it needs to get rid of cancer called Kosovo.
It is very hard to take in.
Take it in a positive way :
Europe wants us not them!!!!!
Bravo Ulrike!!! It was time a high ranking EU official made this perfectly clear. It carries even more weight that she made this statement in Serbia and not as before in Brussels or Vienna. Even other European leaders do not use the same wording, they think the same way, and not to forget the EU population. It will be impossible to people understand that Serbia can join the EU if it has territorial problems with Kosovo. Besides that people will not tollerate that a country which adores it's convicted war criminals as heros, and who has such an unfrelected view of war crimes it committed as Serbia does. A huge majority of people within the EU are against a Serbia joining as it is presenting itself as it is now. If Serbia wants to become a EU member, a lot, an awful lot has to be changed.
(observer, 13 May 2016 11:30) # C
To Observer,
First time ,you Observed correctly.
Serbia will be neutral, eventually.
P's as well, she stated that there is no conditions in the Chapters to let go of Kosovo.
The bigger issue is why would she come out and openly make such a 'controversial statement'?
(cry me a river, 13 May 2016 15:42)
She didn't make a statement, she made a comment on the side. It is not an official statement, it's her opinion, and she's had this opinion for years. Doesn't mean it's true because no one else has said it, and something like this isn't included in Serbia's formal EU membership talks. You're making this out to be more than it is.
By the way have all those countries that granted Kosovo its independence paid to have the depleted uranium removed yet?
(sj, 13 May 2016 17:53)
No, why? Is broken Serbia going to pay for it if Kosovo asks to become part of Serbia again? Or perhaps the CE of B92 forums sj will command Serbia's government to pay for the cleanup considering how concerned the CE of B92 forums sj is for Kosovo's wellbeing :)
Serbia is the only country in EUROPE who has been given condition to GIVE UP YOUR SERBIA IN EXCHANGE FOR EU MEMBERSHIP This is the worst negotiation deal I ever seen Why would anyone in theirs right mind agree to such Bad deal. Serbia Should ask DONALD TRUMP for help with that Problem Mr Trump is the master Negotiator. Why is Serbia so desperate to enter EU when other EU Members countries WANTS EU EXIT ??
AgroNio,
Ask yourself following:
Why would Christian Europe with raising right wing parties want 100% ultra aggressive Albanians who support IS in?
If we add all these problems with terror attacks across Europe, drug smuggling & human trafficking.
Unless rotten politician are bought by drug & human trafficking money Europe DOES NOT want Albanians.
(icj1, 13 May 2016 13:56)
Once again our resident AI, icj, babbles on and on. When unable to respond our resident icj1, 2 or 3 then goes into a foetal position and rocks backwards and forwards and out comes this CE of B92 quote LOL, and then makes a feeble attempt to turn the situation around much like a primary school child in the school yard.
All signs of deep psychiatric issues. Just keep on rolling backwards and forwards and repeat sj, CE of B92, sj CE of B92. LOL.
I've already replied to that borrowing thing, that you can't be bothered to read is not my problem.
"f you don’t understand why Serbia is so important..." what does this even mean? So Serbia is not only important, but its SO important, a level up from merely being relevant. totally meaningless statement that only makes in your head.
The bigger issue is why would she come out and openly make such a 'controversial statement'?
(cry me a river, 13 May 2016 15:42)
She didn't make a statement, she made a comment on the side. It is not an official statement, it's her opinion, and she's had this opinion for years. Doesn't mean it's true because no one else has said it, and something like this isn't included in Serbia's formal EU membership talks. You're making this out to be more than it is.
(the actual truth, 13 May 2016 19:18)
actual,
You seem to be confused or wish to make this of River's doing.
The headline is b92's reporting, no one else. Stop dreaming, you'll wake up with a hangover.
Why not recognize Kosovo? We have no authority there and it's only a tool for our politicians to run various scams. We should just recognize it and let the people of Kosovo go their own way, and at some point in the future, we might both forget the ugly past and be friendly neighbors. If we are truly better than they are, as we claim, we should focus on real problems, not a piece of land that is not even ours.
(Vojvodina, 14 May 2016 11:47)
To Shqip Vojvodina,
We as you write is not correct!. You are A Shiptar ,and are one of us.So don't try fooling the Serb's, because they are not that Stupid and know you are a Shqip!.
We ,Vojvodina should allow the Serb's who really live in Vojvodina to vote for what they want.
P's See you at the (Islamic state) meetings in the mosque in PEC,my brother!.
(icj1, 13 May 2016 13:56)
Once again our resident AI, icj, babbles on and on. When unable to respond our resident icj1, 2 or 3 then goes into a foetal position and rocks backwards and forwards and out comes this CE of B92 quote LOL, and then makes a feeble attempt to turn the situation around much like a primary school child in the school yard.
All signs of deep psychiatric issues. Just keep on rolling backwards and forwards and repeat sj, CE of B92, sj CE of B92. LOL.
you just once more make a fool of yourself with your redicules comments. The public vote was used for the first time this year, and most probably was rigged by russia. There are lots of ways to do this when telephone or ip based voting systems are used. Russia has a historia with lying and cheating and I am 100% positive they did it as well in this competition. The FSB and other russian criminals took care of that. The national juries in the West consist of well known musicians and not state sponsored yes men like in Russia, but that is a concept unknown to you. You actually think Russia is liked in the rest of the world? Where do you live? Russia most likley is the most unliked country in the world. Western Europeans absolutly dislike you, except for some right wing fascist assholes which Putin supports financially like Le Pen, etc. But, people in the former East absolutly hate you. They had first hand experience in what you are like. They distrust you deeply, and do not want to have anything to do with your fascist warmongering country. They beg NATO to station more troops at your borders because they want to be protected from you. That applies to all former Soviet / Russian satellites in the east. As I said, only the right wing fascist trust you, and I guess they have a reason. Putin is their hero, and that says it all. No, we don't want any of your political system. The world would be a better and saver place without Putin-Russia.
Wow, she nailed it she left no gap to doubt anything. I wonder what the Serbian politicians will say now, and who will they complain to?
(Guest, 13 May 2016 10:04)
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LOL! Maybe you should read the article first before commenting. If you did, you need to work on comprehension.
B92-you are so late KOSOVA is in FIFA thanks World
(agRONio, 13 May 2016 21:08)
B92 reported it immediately on its Serbian mirror. Kosovo became a member right before Gibraltar was also granted membership. That makes two non-sovereign territories given membership, bringing FIFA's members to 211. There are only 193 countries in the UN and Kosovo isn't recognized as one. Congratulations. Kosovo's membership, like UEFA, was admitted as a territory or region of another sovereign state. Nothing surprising.
I am so glad Ukraine won, and this showed the world again, that fascist Putin-Russia is a dictatorship nobody wants to have anything to do with. The whole thing creates more bad press for Russia, and reminds people that nothing real good came from your country in the past 100 years +. Only death, killings, destruction, crime and dictatorships. Normal peace loving people don't want any of that , and can live without. Besides that the russian song was actually very dumb and primitive. simply ceap, but only had some good visual effects. It did not deserve to win. It would not surprise me if the russian KGB or FSB also rigged the public vote. Nothing new in your country. They also rigged the Sochi Olympic games and helped Russian athletes with their in Russia common Doping practices as everybody knows now by now. Russia, a country and criminal society build on lies, cheating, wars, killing people, or putting them in gulags. The world would be a better and saver place without you.
Ulrike Lunacek has said that she is "not an enemy of Serbia" and that she is "certain Serbia will not join the EU without recognizing Kosovo."
SOURCE: TANJUG FRIDAY, 13.05.2016. | 09:45
Thank you for your worthless opion,Miss Lunacek.When Merkel and the people in position talk,Serbia will know and us Albanian's will be happy.
Otherwise, we will not get excited just yet,and stop being a tease to us Albanian's!.
There are only 193 countries in the UN
(Navi, 14 May 2016 00:10)
Yup like there are only 28 countries in the EU, only 162 countries in the IOM, only 191 countries in the ICAO, etc etc... Not sure though what your point is other than stating the number of members of an international organization!!!
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and Kosovo isn't recognized as one.
(Navi, 14 May 2016 00:10)
According to the UN, the UN does not have any authority to recognize a state or government. So yes, you are correct that Kosovo, like Serbia and any other state in the world is not recognized by the UN.
I think EU is paying corrupt serbian government of today to join your shit union.
(Zoran Markovic, 14 May 2016 03:09)
So, that's because you "think" not because you have any evidence!!! Not to mentioned that the evidence contradicts what you wrote because the CE of B92 forums sj has ruled that the EU is broke and has run out of cash therefore it is impossible for the EU to pay anybody!
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Because most if not all Serbs will never say kosovo is albanian.
(Zoran Markovic, 14 May 2016 03:09)
It is the business of Serbs what they want to say or not to say. That's totally immaterial to Kosovo like it is totally immaterial to the US whether Serbs say that US in British or not :)
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Kosovo was and will always be a part of Serbia if you like that or not.
(Zoran Markovic, 14 May 2016 03:09)
Woow... So you are saying that Kosovo was a part of Serbia since the year 4,543,000,000 BC when Earth came into existence lol
(observer, 16 May 2016 13:51)
Why do you write this rubbish? The most un-liked country in the world is the US and that is a fact. After numerous wars in the world started by the US do you actually think that people love Washington?
Ask the people living in Australia, New Zealand, France, Italy or Germany and so, and they will tell you that the US is responsible for the most deaths in the Middle East.
You have no idea who or what wants NATO. People are never asked about anything mate. It’s all politics. They install governments that will promulgate their crap. Tomorrow if the Russians install the government in Poland they would sing the praises of Moscow.
The world would be a safer place without people like you paraphrasing US spin.
Serbia is the only country in EUROPE who has been given condition to GIVE UP YOUR SERBIA IN EXCHANGE FOR EU MEMBERSHIP
(Blue Angel, 15 May 2016 15:26)
There is not any condition to Serbia to "GIVE UP YOUR SERBIA IN EXCHANGE FOR EU MEMBERSHIP". Not sure how you did come up with that nonsense mate!
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Why is Serbia so desperate to enter EU when other EU Members countries WANTS EU EXIT ??
(Blue Angel, 15 May 2016 15:26)
Which are these EU Members countries WANTING EU EXIT?! They might be surprised to learn that a certain Blue Angel has decided for them that they want EU exit :)
The reason we have borders in EU is becase there are 20 countries, different cultures & languages, and we want to remain that way. We are not "EuroSoviet people".
NOW THAT RUSSIA IS UNDER A TOTAL PRESSURE IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THE OFFICIALS VOTED FOR RUSSIA. WE ALL KNOW THAT COMMON PEOPLE OF EUROPE GAVE RUSSIA THE FIRST PLACE SO IT'S HARD TO SAY THAT OUR SONG HAD NO CULTURAL VALUE. BUT SERBIA SENT THEIR RUSSOPHOBES SELLOUT LIBERASTS TO REPRESENT THE COUNTRY ... THEN THEY GET SURPRISED WHY RUSSIA MISTRUSTS VUCIC.
Результаты голосования от жюри за Россию:
Азербайджан – 12 Испания – 4 Франция – 1 Молодова – 7 Армения – 2 Кипр – 12 Болгария – 6 Латвия – 7 Беларусь – 12 Хорватия – 6 Греция – 12 Сербия – 1 Албания – 7 Черногория – 8 Швеция – 6 Остальные страны от жюри не дали российскому исполнителю ни одного балла.
Observer : I am so glad Ukraine won, and this showed the world again, that fascist Putin-Russia is a dictatorship nobody wants to have anything to do with.
You must have not watched the show. Otherwise you would know that Europe voted for Russia and so we have won the game! But because the USA knew of the increased sympathies for Russia they implemented this new method of cutting wings when 5 unknown persons in each state vote parallel to the peoples. This year they meant to pull Australia and to stop Russia. But as it always happen to the Yankees something went wrong and Ukraine got the prize. In fact I am very happy about it because Ukraine is also Russia. Besides it will be funny to see if the Ukraine is to survive this year and how are they going to have the show in the Nazi Kiev. Also where they will take money for it. I am really happy as it will help Russia unmask the West in Ukraine. By the way I liked only I DIDN'T KNOW song mocking Leonard Cohen.
(Nikolle, 13 May 2016 18:06)
I’ve read that nonsense about borrowing from the IMF, but that was no loan. Well they did try and sell it as a loan, but rest assured it was not. It was aid.
Now on the issue of the Croatian economy and it being larger that Serbia’s, I agree that the WB, IMF, various EU financial institutions will corroborate that fact. However, these same well established and transparent institutions have the US as the No.1 world economy when China surpassed it in September 2014.
Then we have Standard and Poors recent downgrading of the Chinese economy due to “high levels of debt” which is laughable considering the situation with the US and its level debt while still holding the AAA rating, and you wonder why I have no time for any information provided by western institutions.
However, as an economist you would know how Croatia manages to earn this high standard of living since tourism is its only source of income. Please regale us with this story.
Don’t worry why Serbia is important. It only goes over your head anyway.
(Nikolle, 13 May 2016 18:06)
I’ve read that nonsense about borrowing from the IMF, but that was no loan. Well they did try and sell it as a loan, but rest assured it was not. It was aid.
Now on the issue of the Croatian economy and it being larger that Serbia’s, I agree that the WB, IMF, various EU financial institutions will corroborate that fact. However, these same well established and transparent institutions have the US as the No.1 world economy when China surpassed it in September 2014.
Then we have Standard and Poors recent downgrading of the Chinese economy due to “high levels of debt” which is laughable considering the situation with the US and its level debt while still holding the AAA rating, and you wonder why I have no time for any information provided by western institutions.
However, as an economist you would know how Croatia manages to earn this high standard of living since tourism is its only source of income. Please regale us with this story.
Don’t worry why Serbia is important. It only goes over your head anyway.
Did it ever occur to you the so-called radioactive crops you speak of, 80% find their way to Serbia for Belgraders to consume.
You never seem to learn, you're constantly being hoisted by your own petard. hee, hee hee!
(The Count of Kosova, 14 May 2016 05:40)
Well Lord of the Dance, having been to Kosovo and having seen it first-hand I can say to you that it does not reach Belgrade or any other part of Serbia. I actually asked that same question when I was in Serbia and they said that they would not allow anything from Kosovo, especially green vegetables, period.
But that is a theoretical scenario since Kosovo is a net importer of food not an exporter, mate.
Yeah I’m hoisted by my own petard, but it’s your Albanians that are dying in record numbers from cancers due to the depleted uranium. Enjoy the U-235 with your cornflakes hee, hee hee.
Poor observer : “you just once more make a fool of yourself with your redicules comments…. Western Europeans absolutly dislike you, .. But, people in the former East absolutly hate you …. They distrust you deeply, and do not want to have anything to do with your fascist warmongering country. They beg NATO to station more troops at your borders … That applies to all former Soviet / Russian satellites in the east.”
Serbs are very naïve or may pretend to be naïve nation.
What is Europe saying is "We do not want:
- drug & human trafficking lords who run Kosovo;
- 100% Muslim region with lot of IS supporters
in Europe, so if Serbia wants in majority Christian then it needs to get rid of cancer called Kosovo.
It is very hard to take in.
Take it in a positive way :
Europe wants us not them!!!!!
Wow, she nailed it she left no gap to doubt anything. I wonder what the Serbian politicians will say now, and who will they complain to? Usually they love to come out and urge EU to tell others to refrain themselves from certaj topics or messages. This is a nail to Serbia's coffin.
Bravo Ulrike!!! It was time a high ranking EU official made this perfectly clear. It carries even more weight that she made this statement in Serbia and not as before in Brussels or Vienna. Even other European leaders do not use the same wording, they think the same way, and not to forget the EU population. It will be impossible to people understand that Serbia can join the EU if it has territorial problems with Kosovo. Besides that people will not tollerate that a country which adores it's convicted war criminals as heros, and who has such an unfrelected view of war crimes it committed as Serbia does. A huge majority of people within the EU are against a Serbia joining as it is presenting itself as it is now. If Serbia wants to become a EU member, a lot, an awful lot has to be changed.
Serbia has already recognised Kosovo's independence in 2013 (Brussels Agreement) so I don't understand why this clown states otherwise. However I find it funny how she made this comment right after the Serbian elections and not before it. It looks like Vucic will have to go back to Langley, Virginia to get a desk job because his dream of joining the EU is falling apart haha!
AgroNio,
Ask yourself following:
Why would Christian Europe with raising right wing parties want 100% ultra aggressive Albanians who support IS in?
If we add all these problems with terror attacks across Europe, drug smuggling & human trafficking.
Unless rotten politician are bought by drug & human trafficking money Europe DOES NOT want Albanians.
Why not recognize Kosovo? We have no authority there and it's only a tool for our politicians to run various scams. We should just recognize it and let the people of Kosovo go their own way, and at some point in the future, we might both forget the ugly past and be friendly neighbors. If we are truly better than they are, as we claim, we should focus on real problems, not a piece of land that is not even ours.
(Vojvodina, 14 May 2016 11:47)
To Shqip Vojvodina,
We as you write is not correct!. You are A Shiptar ,and are one of us.So don't try fooling the Serb's, because they are not that Stupid and know you are a Shqip!.
We ,Vojvodina should allow the Serb's who really live in Vojvodina to vote for what they want.
P's See you at the (Islamic state) meetings in the mosque in PEC,my brother!.
Bravo Ulrike!!! It was time a high ranking EU official made this perfectly clear. It carries even more weight that she made this statement in Serbia and not as before in Brussels or Vienna. Even other European leaders do not use the same wording, they think the same way, and not to forget the EU population. It will be impossible to people understand that Serbia can join the EU if it has territorial problems with Kosovo. Besides that people will not tollerate that a country which adores it's convicted war criminals as heros, and who has such an unfrelected view of war crimes it committed as Serbia does. A huge majority of people within the EU are against a Serbia joining as it is presenting itself as it is now. If Serbia wants to become a EU member, a lot, an awful lot has to be changed.
(observer, 13 May 2016 11:30) # C
To Observer,
First time ,you Observed correctly.
Serbia will be neutral, eventually.
P's as well, she stated that there is no conditions in the Chapters to let go of Kosovo.
As someone who doesn't want Serbia to join the EU, I find this news positive. As someone who knows that Serbia will never join the EU whether they recognize the amputation of its territory or not, I find Lunacek's statement pointless. But she's been on the KLA payroll for years now so nothing surprising. Just drag your feet, get some of these EU funds before it's all over http://www.thepressproject.gr/details_en.php?aid=93654
(Bilbao, 13 May 2016 14:23)
I don’t have evident at all but in my opinion everything said so far does not point to Serbia wanting to join the EU. I think they are draining every last Euro before pulling the pin.
After this refugee issue and closing of borders by individual EU members I very much doubt that you will have a united Europe. In fact Brussels had to extend the border closure simply to remain in step with members, but in reality the individual states would not obey Brussels.
The EU is in a financial mess. Printing money to kick start their economy is not a good sign, next on the trouble scale after Greece, Spain Portugal and Ireland is Italy and France. The rich countries are complaining having to pay for the poor members. Visa free travel is nothing. I used it last year and you still have to line up at the borders to have your passport stamped.
Serbia’s importance? It takes 3 days from Berlin to Istanbul via Serbia or 7 around it and every army in history that had to go to the east had to pass through Serbia. That is why Serbia is important.
FIFA and UEFA and what eve else is meaningless. It like giving Albanians in Kosovo access to the international space station. Its pointless. You need UN recognition.
Serbs do not take kindly to having their property taken by thieves.
Well serbia doesnt want to join EU, it never wanted to join in the first place.I think EU is paying corrupt serbian government of today to join your shit union.Because most if not all Serbs will never say kosovo is albanian.Kosovo was and will always be a part of Serbia if you like that or not.
Why not recognize Kosovo? We have no authority there and it's only a tool for our politicians to run various scams. We should just recognize it and let the people of Kosovo go their own way, and at some point in the future, we might both forget the ugly past and be friendly neighbors. If we are truly better than they are, as we claim, we should focus on real problems, not a piece of land that is not even ours.
I love this lady, as she has the BA..'S to travel to Belgrade and dictate the conditions to radical Serbia inorder for Serbia to become a EU member!!! I've stated many times here that inorder for Serbia to achieve EU membership she will need to formally recognize the independent Republic Of Kosova, she will have to allow for NATO bases inside of Serbia itself, she will have to completely change her constitution to bring it in line with the EU's!!! Serbia better get on board rather soon as her last lines of life support are be cut 1by1 with very few remaining, and the people's in neighboring countries she once tried to exterminate are getting stronger & stronger by the day with these people's eagerly waiting for the day for some serious payback on Serbia!!! It's all in black N white in your face Serbia where will you turn to now?
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well, Ulrike was just proven right again, even if the vote which was just casted at the FIFA congress in Mexico effects sports. Nevertheless it is also a political vote. 86% voted in fafour of Kosovo becoming a full fletched member of FIFA. The deputy president of the serb football federation tried all his dirty tricks and lies, but it didn't help. 86% in fafour is a slap into Serbia's face, and shows once more that Serbia is on a loosing track. Nobody takes your claim 'Kosovo is Serbia' serious anymore, no matter how these pompous serb ultra nationls like sj, Peggy, etc here claim. You are a dying breed. Congratulations Kosovo, you deserved it!!!
(observer, 13 May 2016 11:30)
Sadly for you guys this Ulrike is a no body in the scheme of things because when push comes to shove she does what she is told. You should try and get a job in the EP and see for yourself. It’s a retirement village for worn out European party hacks where respective governing political parties send their worn and tired and huddling masses as payment for services rendered or just to get rid of them.
The EP is not a real Parliament nor was it designed as such.
I have lost count of the number of these so called high officials who come out and make claims such as Serbia will not join the EU without recognising Kosovo.
Nikolic has response to that by stating Serbia will not let Kosovo go and if they don’t want Serbia in the EU then too bad.
Remember Doris Pack? LOL. Everything this lady said would never occur has already been signed off on LOL.
When Merkel makes this type of statement then you might say OK Serbia has to decide, but she never will do that. Ask yourself is Kosovo more important to the EU than Serbia? It’s not.
For an economist you make many ridiculous statements but then you could not explain how Kosovo was going to borrow and borrow to pay for an army when most of its income is EU aid and no financial institution would lend you a Euro and that includes the IMF or WB.
Sometimes politics and policy changes year by year, but after a decade and half, there is a huge difference and what was seen as a priority in 1999 is not that important today and you should know that.
If you don’t understand why Serbia is so important there is no point in me trying to explain it. By the way have all those countries that granted Kosovo its independence paid to have the depleted uranium removed yet? You know where today Albanians plough and harvest and breath in that air?
Hope you are now wiser knowing what was important 10 years ago and what is important today.
By the way have all those countries that granted Kosovo its independence paid to have the depleted uranium removed yet? You know where today Albanians plough and harvest and breath in that air?
(sj, 13 May 2016 17:53)
sj,
Did it ever occur to you the so-called radioactive crops you speak of, 80% find their way to Serbia for Belgraders to consume.
You never seem to learn, you're constantly being hoisted by your own petard. hee, hee hee!
When Merkel makes this type of statement then you might say OK Serbia has to decide, but she never will do that. Ask yourself is Kosovo more important to the EU than Serbia? It’s not.
(sj, 13 May 2016 12:28)
Merkel has said it just not open as it's not her style, just like Vucic lets his pawns do the talking. Serbia is no more important or less its a country that has issues to join a club.
By your logic then EU would not have added special chapter 35 if Kosovo was not important, but EU is past Balkan syndrome long ago they look at it as a problem not importance.
Serbia does not have all borders defines as per 23 out of 28 countries as they see your border at Merdare, so they have already made the claim just Serbian goat still believes can graze where it wants.
This came after election so UEAF and FIFA ( this is why the rush to elections in April) no secret. Kosovo got visa-free separate from Serbia, everything is going on separate so why is it like that.
Only Serbia beleives that 23 is smaller than 5! Now after 110 countries have recognised it your President says oh majoraty of Humanity due to India and CHina does not accept Kosovo but year before never said that, and world runs on 1 for q not number of people.
17 years since last Serb troups left, and no one from Serbia has provided something that would make Albanians want to live with you as same country, you can not even take opinion in the forum from them let alone live together.
"It takes 3 days from Berlin to Istanbul via Serbia or 7 around it and every army in history that had to go to the east had to pass through Serbia. "
how did the EU ever cope when Serbia was isolated from it during Sloba's era! Serbia is important!! dear oh dear. Italy is important. Germany is important. Serbia is insignificant. if it was, it would not have been bombed in 1999 and Kosovo would not have been granted independence by the those who apperantly view Serbia as important
(icj1, 13 May 2016 13:56)
Once again our resident AI, icj, babbles on and on. When unable to respond our resident icj1, 2 or 3 then goes into a foetal position and rocks backwards and forwards and out comes this CE of B92 quote LOL, and then makes a feeble attempt to turn the situation around much like a primary school child in the school yard.
All signs of deep psychiatric issues. Just keep on rolling backwards and forwards and repeat sj, CE of B92, sj CE of B92. LOL.
Guy's I don't understand one thing from some of you Serbian people.Kosovo is gone once a forever there's not even to dream of it is done.Now you should think for future to leave you guy's together and not to hate each other. Look Albanian they don't care who is Kosovo or Serbian they lesson Serbian music everywhere .And Albanian media never making propaganda.you Guy's you have to expect the reality of today.look at you .you use to big country but all gone i think is a reason so be happy and enjoying the life God give us.Not the Prist or Imam.Thank you
@ Ari Gold
Pray that Europe never fall – if not just look the example of Middle East in which Saudi Arabia is one of the most rich countrys in middle of an “broken” and fallen continent.
So, you are enough smart to understand what it mean.
B92-you are so late KOSOVA is in FIFA thanks World
(agRONio, 13 May 2016 21:08)
B92 reported it immediately on its Serbian mirror. Kosovo became a member right before Gibraltar was also granted membership. That makes two non-sovereign territories given membership, bringing FIFA's members to 211. There are only 193 countries in the UN and Kosovo isn't recognized as one. Congratulations. Kosovo's membership, like UEFA, was admitted as a territory or region of another sovereign state. Nothing surprising.
The bigger issue is why would she come out and openly make such a 'controversial statement'?
(cry me a river, 13 May 2016 15:42)
She didn't make a statement, she made a comment on the side. It is not an official statement, it's her opinion, and she's had this opinion for years. Doesn't mean it's true because no one else has said it, and something like this isn't included in Serbia's formal EU membership talks. You're making this out to be more than it is.
(the actual truth, 13 May 2016 19:18)
actual,
You seem to be confused or wish to make this of River's doing.
The headline is b92's reporting, no one else. Stop dreaming, you'll wake up with a hangover.
Did it ever occur to you the so-called radioactive crops you speak of, 80% find their way to Serbia for Belgraders to consume.
You never seem to learn, you're constantly being hoisted by your own petard. hee, hee hee!
(The Count of Kosova, 14 May 2016 05:40)
Well Lord of the Dance, having been to Kosovo and having seen it first-hand I can say to you that it does not reach Belgrade or any other part of Serbia. I actually asked that same question when I was in Serbia and they said that they would not allow anything from Kosovo, especially green vegetables, period.
But that is a theoretical scenario since Kosovo is a net importer of food not an exporter, mate.
Yeah I’m hoisted by my own petard, but it’s your Albanians that are dying in record numbers from cancers due to the depleted uranium. Enjoy the U-235 with your cornflakes hee, hee hee.
fine, this is what you should do, petition your local MEP (where ever it is that you come from) and ask that Albania and Kosovo not be made candidate states for EU accession. However, the politics of the EU, suggest that it wants to integrate both Kosovo and Albania. You can type DOES NOT in as many capitals as you like, you're still wrong
The bigger issue is why would she come out and openly make such a 'controversial statement'?
(cry me a river, 13 May 2016 15:42)
She didn't make a statement, she made a comment on the side. It is not an official statement, it's her opinion, and she's had this opinion for years. Doesn't mean it's true because no one else has said it, and something like this isn't included in Serbia's formal EU membership talks. You're making this out to be more than it is.
Serbia is the only country in EUROPE who has been given condition to GIVE UP YOUR SERBIA IN EXCHANGE FOR EU MEMBERSHIP This is the worst negotiation deal I ever seen Why would anyone in theirs right mind agree to such Bad deal. Serbia Should ask DONALD TRUMP for help with that Problem Mr Trump is the master Negotiator. Why is Serbia so desperate to enter EU when other EU Members countries WANTS EU EXIT ??
(observer, 16 May 2016 13:51)
Why do you write this rubbish? The most un-liked country in the world is the US and that is a fact. After numerous wars in the world started by the US do you actually think that people love Washington?
Ask the people living in Australia, New Zealand, France, Italy or Germany and so, and they will tell you that the US is responsible for the most deaths in the Middle East.
You have no idea who or what wants NATO. People are never asked about anything mate. It’s all politics. They install governments that will promulgate their crap. Tomorrow if the Russians install the government in Poland they would sing the praises of Moscow.
The world would be a safer place without people like you paraphrasing US spin.
So the article title says "Serbia must recognize Kosovo to join EU" - EP official
Which should be fodder enough for the comment section.
Of course reading the article, we hear Lunacek, whose been singing the same one hit wonder for over 10 years now, "made these comments on the sidelines" of some obscure conference she attended, which is little more than an NGO-hosted event.
We also hear she said "It is true that the recognition of Kosovo is not formulated in the EU acquis, or in any of the chapters", making the first statement little more than an opinion when compared with official policy. Her reference of Cyprus doesn't and shouldn't give much hope to those pro-Kosova pundits here.
But thanks B92 for the deliberate clickbait. It got most of the usual keyboard warriors of Cyber Illyria to post all sorts of irrelevant boasts only after reading the article title instead of the article itself.
The Christian Europe? That Christian Europe in which gays are married in Church? That Christian Europe in which priests abuse which children?
That Chistian Europe in which the highest state authorities are involved in pedofilia? That Christian world in which the role of the Church was saintly, ooooo I have a headache thinking about it.. you know maybe, maybe for sure I don’t even want it.
Don’t talk to me to that Christian world which is losing all the “values” and are sending in fire half of the world and then complain – so don't even permit yourself to talk in the name of god.
Could you tell to me how the drug enter in Netherland? Does she do all the procedures in custom eee ? This is Europe – who broke it own rules.
And please, because just god know how many innocent Syrians children, women, men, die every day just because the so called devoted Chistians like yourself pay for a kidney, a heart, eye… This is not the Europe I want.
Ulrike Lunacek has said that she is "not an enemy of Serbia" and that she is "certain Serbia will not join the EU without recognizing Kosovo."
SOURCE: TANJUG FRIDAY, 13.05.2016. | 09:45
Thank you for your worthless opion,Miss Lunacek.When Merkel and the people in position talk,Serbia will know and us Albanian's will be happy.
Otherwise, we will not get excited just yet,and stop being a tease to us Albanian's!.
(icj1, 13 May 2016 13:56)
Once again our resident AI, icj, babbles on and on. When unable to respond our resident icj1, 2 or 3 then goes into a foetal position and rocks backwards and forwards and out comes this CE of B92 quote LOL, and then makes a feeble attempt to turn the situation around much like a primary school child in the school yard.
All signs of deep psychiatric issues. Just keep on rolling backwards and forwards and repeat sj, CE of B92, sj CE of B92. LOL.
I've already replied to that borrowing thing, that you can't be bothered to read is not my problem.
"f you don’t understand why Serbia is so important..." what does this even mean? So Serbia is not only important, but its SO important, a level up from merely being relevant. totally meaningless statement that only makes in your head.
Poor observer : “you just once more make a fool of yourself with your redicules comments…. Western Europeans absolutly dislike you, .. But, people in the former East absolutly hate you …. They distrust you deeply, and do not want to have anything to do with your fascist warmongering country. They beg NATO to station more troops at your borders … That applies to all former Soviet / Russian satellites in the east.”
Nikolic has response to that by stating Serbia will not let Kosovo go
(sj, 13 May 2016 12:28)
Go where?! I wasn't aware that a piece of land can move lol Not to mention that the impact on Kosovo of Nikolic responses is the same as the impact that, say, a response from Mugabe would have :)
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and if they don’t want Serbia in the EU then too bad.
(sj, 13 May 2016 12:28)
Yup, I think Serbia should follow the wishes of Kosovo and the CE of B92 forums sj and not join the EU.
(Nikolle, 13 May 2016 18:06)
I’ve read that nonsense about borrowing from the IMF, but that was no loan. Well they did try and sell it as a loan, but rest assured it was not. It was aid.
Now on the issue of the Croatian economy and it being larger that Serbia’s, I agree that the WB, IMF, various EU financial institutions will corroborate that fact. However, these same well established and transparent institutions have the US as the No.1 world economy when China surpassed it in September 2014.
Then we have Standard and Poors recent downgrading of the Chinese economy due to “high levels of debt” which is laughable considering the situation with the US and its level debt while still holding the AAA rating, and you wonder why I have no time for any information provided by western institutions.
However, as an economist you would know how Croatia manages to earn this high standard of living since tourism is its only source of income. Please regale us with this story.
Don’t worry why Serbia is important. It only goes over your head anyway.
(Nikolle, 13 May 2016 18:06)
I’ve read that nonsense about borrowing from the IMF, but that was no loan. Well they did try and sell it as a loan, but rest assured it was not. It was aid.
Now on the issue of the Croatian economy and it being larger that Serbia’s, I agree that the WB, IMF, various EU financial institutions will corroborate that fact. However, these same well established and transparent institutions have the US as the No.1 world economy when China surpassed it in September 2014.
Then we have Standard and Poors recent downgrading of the Chinese economy due to “high levels of debt” which is laughable considering the situation with the US and its level debt while still holding the AAA rating, and you wonder why I have no time for any information provided by western institutions.
However, as an economist you would know how Croatia manages to earn this high standard of living since tourism is its only source of income. Please regale us with this story.
Don’t worry why Serbia is important. It only goes over your head anyway.
Merkel has said this lots of times. What do you think normalization means? It means Serbia has a referendum where the removal of Kosovo is on the ballot paving the way for Kosovo recognition by Serbia. Merkel has said exactly what lunacek said.
I think EU is paying corrupt serbian government of today to join your shit union.
(Zoran Markovic, 14 May 2016 03:09)
So, that's because you "think" not because you have any evidence!!! Not to mentioned that the evidence contradicts what you wrote because the CE of B92 forums sj has ruled that the EU is broke and has run out of cash therefore it is impossible for the EU to pay anybody!
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Because most if not all Serbs will never say kosovo is albanian.
(Zoran Markovic, 14 May 2016 03:09)
It is the business of Serbs what they want to say or not to say. That's totally immaterial to Kosovo like it is totally immaterial to the US whether Serbs say that US in British or not :)
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Kosovo was and will always be a part of Serbia if you like that or not.
(Zoran Markovic, 14 May 2016 03:09)
Woow... So you are saying that Kosovo was a part of Serbia since the year 4,543,000,000 BC when Earth came into existence lol
Wow, she nailed it she left no gap to doubt anything. I wonder what the Serbian politicians will say now, and who will they complain to?
(Guest, 13 May 2016 10:04)
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LOL! Maybe you should read the article first before commenting. If you did, you need to work on comprehension.
By the way have all those countries that granted Kosovo its independence paid to have the depleted uranium removed yet?
(sj, 13 May 2016 17:53)
No, why? Is broken Serbia going to pay for it if Kosovo asks to become part of Serbia again? Or perhaps the CE of B92 forums sj will command Serbia's government to pay for the cleanup considering how concerned the CE of B92 forums sj is for Kosovo's wellbeing :)
NOW THAT RUSSIA IS UNDER A TOTAL PRESSURE IT WAS INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THE OFFICIALS VOTED FOR RUSSIA. WE ALL KNOW THAT COMMON PEOPLE OF EUROPE GAVE RUSSIA THE FIRST PLACE SO IT'S HARD TO SAY THAT OUR SONG HAD NO CULTURAL VALUE. BUT SERBIA SENT THEIR RUSSOPHOBES SELLOUT LIBERASTS TO REPRESENT THE COUNTRY ... THEN THEY GET SURPRISED WHY RUSSIA MISTRUSTS VUCIC.
Результаты голосования от жюри за Россию:
Азербайджан – 12 Испания – 4 Франция – 1 Молодова – 7 Армения – 2 Кипр – 12 Болгария – 6 Латвия – 7 Беларусь – 12 Хорватия – 6 Греция – 12 Сербия – 1 Албания – 7 Черногория – 8 Швеция – 6 Остальные страны от жюри не дали российскому исполнителю ни одного балла.
Observer : I am so glad Ukraine won, and this showed the world again, that fascist Putin-Russia is a dictatorship nobody wants to have anything to do with.
You must have not watched the show. Otherwise you would know that Europe voted for Russia and so we have won the game! But because the USA knew of the increased sympathies for Russia they implemented this new method of cutting wings when 5 unknown persons in each state vote parallel to the peoples. This year they meant to pull Australia and to stop Russia. But as it always happen to the Yankees something went wrong and Ukraine got the prize. In fact I am very happy about it because Ukraine is also Russia. Besides it will be funny to see if the Ukraine is to survive this year and how are they going to have the show in the Nazi Kiev. Also where they will take money for it. I am really happy as it will help Russia unmask the West in Ukraine. By the way I liked only I DIDN'T KNOW song mocking Leonard Cohen.
you just once more make a fool of yourself with your redicules comments. The public vote was used for the first time this year, and most probably was rigged by russia. There are lots of ways to do this when telephone or ip based voting systems are used. Russia has a historia with lying and cheating and I am 100% positive they did it as well in this competition. The FSB and other russian criminals took care of that. The national juries in the West consist of well known musicians and not state sponsored yes men like in Russia, but that is a concept unknown to you. You actually think Russia is liked in the rest of the world? Where do you live? Russia most likley is the most unliked country in the world. Western Europeans absolutly dislike you, except for some right wing fascist assholes which Putin supports financially like Le Pen, etc. But, people in the former East absolutly hate you. They had first hand experience in what you are like. They distrust you deeply, and do not want to have anything to do with your fascist warmongering country. They beg NATO to station more troops at your borders because they want to be protected from you. That applies to all former Soviet / Russian satellites in the east. As I said, only the right wing fascist trust you, and I guess they have a reason. Putin is their hero, and that says it all. No, we don't want any of your political system. The world would be a better and saver place without Putin-Russia.
There are only 193 countries in the UN
(Navi, 14 May 2016 00:10)
Yup like there are only 28 countries in the EU, only 162 countries in the IOM, only 191 countries in the ICAO, etc etc... Not sure though what your point is other than stating the number of members of an international organization!!!
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and Kosovo isn't recognized as one.
(Navi, 14 May 2016 00:10)
According to the UN, the UN does not have any authority to recognize a state or government. So yes, you are correct that Kosovo, like Serbia and any other state in the world is not recognized by the UN.
The reason we have borders in EU is becase there are 20 countries, different cultures & languages, and we want to remain that way. We are not "EuroSoviet people".
Serbia is the only country in EUROPE who has been given condition to GIVE UP YOUR SERBIA IN EXCHANGE FOR EU MEMBERSHIP
(Blue Angel, 15 May 2016 15:26)
There is not any condition to Serbia to "GIVE UP YOUR SERBIA IN EXCHANGE FOR EU MEMBERSHIP". Not sure how you did come up with that nonsense mate!
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Why is Serbia so desperate to enter EU when other EU Members countries WANTS EU EXIT ??
(Blue Angel, 15 May 2016 15:26)
Which are these EU Members countries WANTING EU EXIT?! They might be surprised to learn that a certain Blue Angel has decided for them that they want EU exit :)
I am so glad Ukraine won, and this showed the world again, that fascist Putin-Russia is a dictatorship nobody wants to have anything to do with. The whole thing creates more bad press for Russia, and reminds people that nothing real good came from your country in the past 100 years +. Only death, killings, destruction, crime and dictatorships. Normal peace loving people don't want any of that , and can live without. Besides that the russian song was actually very dumb and primitive. simply ceap, but only had some good visual effects. It did not deserve to win. It would not surprise me if the russian KGB or FSB also rigged the public vote. Nothing new in your country. They also rigged the Sochi Olympic games and helped Russian athletes with their in Russia common Doping practices as everybody knows now by now. Russia, a country and criminal society build on lies, cheating, wars, killing people, or putting them in gulags. The world would be a better and saver place without you.
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