"Should poor, corrupt Albania, Serbia, and Turkey join EU?"

USA, England and Germany pretty much have the Balkans where they want it, isolated, poor and demonized! Jugoslavia was a big threat but now all these little crumbling countries in the Balkans, let nature take it's course and toll! That is pretty much the situation, now USA, England and Germany just sit back and enjoy the show!!!

I disagree with one point: terrorism, especially the Islamic kind, is more of a problem in London than in Tirana.

But otherwise I agree with her sentiment. Albania and Denmark don't belong in the same place. For that matter Greece and Bulgaria don't belong in EU either.

But my point is that Albanians need to reform their government and their courts. The notice that EU funds will not be forthcoming may serve to make the Albanian government more responsive to its citizens' needs, as opposed to the whims of Eurocrats.

I'll bet there is more corruption in Britain compared to Albania Serbia, and this by a long shot! It's just Britains economy is so much larger that it makes it much easier to downplay! British nationals by the 100s have join terrorist organizations around the world, much more then the entire Balkans combined.. I'm starting to believe the likes of Tito needs to once again try and unify the entire Balkan region as 1, much more leverage in dealing with the big players, the likes of the U.S, EU, and Russia!!! Divisions are the best weapons deployed when seeking control of smaller weaker country's! Milosevic had a great chance to reorganize & reestablish a failing state and much more, however greed blurred his vision and distorted his moral thoughts & thus his moral duty of stabilizing a once stabil & prosperous federation was doome to failure!!!

The Panepirotic Federation of America (POA) strongly condemns the brutal attack on a Greek Orthodox church in the city of Premet in southern Albania ....

Hahahaha,
Permet is Greek city?!!!
Hahahahaha,
What sick statement.
Permet is as greek, as much as Belgrade is Albanian...
There is not a single Greek in Permet.
How they come up with this idiot statement?
The Church in the story, was Albanian Orthodox Church and used to belong to Albanian orthodox community, not greek one.

"Should poor, corrupt Albania, Serbia, and Turkey join EU?"

Yes, except the Turkey. Which should be divided between Syria, Iran, Kurdistan, Bulgaria, Greece, Armenia, Georgia somehow.

Except the Ankara Pashalyk, 10 square meters of jail - that is Turkey, for Erdogan.
No more than 10 square meters.

Thank you Theresa May!!!!!

Are your serious? Putting Albania and Serbia in the same category?
Lol
We don't want to be in the EU anyway. We prefer Russia !

We pray every day that you keep denying us the entry in the EU since the current leaders don't have much of brains to realize the the EU is failing and many countries, including England, want out of the EU....

Well, Milan, like it or not, for a Brit, Albania & Serbia are in the same category. For this nation of degenerated thieves, you're all the same. For the West you're the same shit. Why? But because you're not Bulgaria & Romania, you morons, you're far away from Russia, although neither Belgrade nor Tirana have ever been as corrupted as Sofia & Bucharest have always been. The day that you Balcanic morons will finally understand this and instead of acting like stupid kids will unite with each other and help each other to join the EU, that day you'll be finally considered mature nations. You could fuck the whole world, you morons, if you could only look at the map and finally realize that you're not sharing borders with Oklahoma City, London, or Moscow, but with each other. Until then, keep entertaining Prince Charles & the Duchess of Cornwell Camilla. My last, sincere, rant on this topic.

RE: Albanian Pressure on Greek Orthodox Church

Shamelessly and without possessing even the slightest evidence, he slanders the Orthodox Archbishop, who according to him is "a representative of Northern Epirus Chauvinism" and who even cooperates with a Greek extremist nationalist party.http://www.pravoslavie.ru/english/91181.htm


The Panepirotic Federation of America (POA) strongly condemns the brutal attack on a Greek Orthodox church in the city of Premet in southern Albania on August 16 by hired government thugs who smashed icons and crosses and beat up worshippers trying to defend the only Christian house of worship in the cityhttp://www.pravoslavie.ru/english/print64056.htm

Athens has compared the demolition of the contested church of St Athanas in a village in southern Albania to the actions of Islamist jihadists in the Middle East. - See more at: http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/albania-authorities-demolish-village-church-in-the-dead-of-the-night-08-26-2015#sthash.KmPNnhlP.dpuf
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/albania-authorities-demolish-village-church-in-the-dead-of-the-night-08-26-2015

Milosevic had a great chance to reorganize & reestablish a failing state and much more, however greed blurred his vision and distorted his moral thoughts & thus his moral duty of stabilizing a once stabil & prosperous federation was doome to failure!!!
(Peter the Rocky, 25 April 2016 17:44)

Milosevic was the least nationalist of all the former Yugoslav republics with the possible exception of Kucan of Slovenia. Tudjman, Izetbegovic, and Karadzic led to the eventual demise of the Socialist Yugoslavia. However, Milosevic can be guilty for stoking Serbian nationalism for political gain.

A united Balkan Federation whether by a free trade pact other than CEFTA is the only change that the southeastern peninsula in Europe can compete in the world economy. Joining the EU is a lose lose situation for all the Balkans-Bulgaria, Croatia, Greece and Romania can attest to that.

Bulgarian politicians would celebrate because they'd finally be able to look down their noses at Albania. Oh, and Bulgaria would not long be by far the most corrupt country in the EU.

Sorry to spoil you, YU was irrelevant, economically and politically. There are much bigger countries that joined the EU, like Poland. And the small Netherlands or Austria are much more important for Europe.
(Comm. Parrisson, 25 April 2016 19:20)

Nonsense, is that why the US and EU loaned millions to Tito and the Socialist Republic of Yugoslavia. It became irrelevant when the Soviet bloc dissolved.

"Jugoslavia was a big threat but now all these little crumbling countries in the Balkans, let nature take it's course and toll!"
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 25 April 2016 18:13)

A threat? How? Economically? Ridiculous. Maybe a threat like Turkey is nowadays: Threatening central Europe with millions of economic immigrants, like millions of Yugoslav emigrated in the 70th and 80th?

Sorry to spoil you, YU was irrelevant, economically and politically. There are much bigger countries that joined the EU, like Poland. And the small Netherlands or Austria are much more important for Europe.

Yugos, the day after the Greeks protested against what happened to that gem of a church located in Drymades, Rama was called by the US Ambassador in Tirana and asked to give some details on what exactly were his men doing on the roof of that church, which literally collapsed under them. And voila, it looks like we will soon have a beautiful larger church instead of the original gem. It is called Greek charisma or compelling charm, Yugos ;)
Again, our churches have been regularly robbed for the last 20 years, there’s not a single country in the world our icons haven’t reached in their long and complicated sans frontieres journey around the world, and yet we are fine, believe me. Nobody can touch our Anastasios, Yugos, we love him and pray for him, believe me.

@ jUGOSLAVIA

???RE: Albanian Pressure on Greek Orthodox Church ? – When Albania has intervened in Greek churchs affairs?
Shameless was to see that building to function like a church.
Shameless was the reaction of the Greece, which destroy, restore, rebuild her churches as much as it needed, nobody interfere in her internal affairs – but I wonder why they stop then. Why they change attitude? Once again the villagers were the church stand, kicked out the Greek representatives! Ha ha ha! Lovely!
Now, have I to show how an Orthodox Church look like my dear?
Ouuu… Here you have!
http://myocn.net/breaking-second-attack-on-orthodox-church-in-dhermi-albania/
http://myocn.net/church-of-st-athanasius-leveled-by-albanian-government/

Stop with IDIOTIC propaganda – that must be “ALL” but not a Church!

If you show or find to me another Orthodox church who looks like this in Greece, Serbia or in any other country then we can talk…
Show to us how a church look like Yugoslavia!
Until then, stop seeing the other business and let us build our Churches, better go and see your flooded churches.

That is not true, you just dreamed that up now.
A look at GDP data, employment data, salary data for Bulgaria for instance would say the complete opposite
(Dwight, 26 April 2016 10:34)

What is it with Albanian comments and putting words in other people's comments.......> "You just dreamed up that now"

If Bulgaria is doing so great, why are Bulgarians playing the flutes in rags collecting money in tins all across Greece-Thessaloniki, Kilkis, Serres, Kozani, Kastoria, etc etc. Why are Bulgarian migrants constantly coming to work in Greek for poverty wages?

Greece, Bulgaria, Croatia, all have double digit unemployment-is this the benefit of EU membership?

Keep living in the clouds genius, don't become an economist, you don't have the brains for it.

This is obviously for local consumption.

However, we should all learn from rich England's example. Here is a video of those wealthy people stealing water allocated for the London marathon. Check -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6M7o1UFG3E

There is a lot more to worry about terrorism in London, Paris, Bussels etc than in Serbia but let her talk sh!t.
After allowing Romani, Bulgaria and Croatia into EU she worries about poverty now? I wonder why Serbs are being targeted again. If only for local consumption then all's fine. I hope that Serbia doesn't get admitted to that dictatorship but if there is more to it and the population is being conditioned again for something much worse then Vucic will have to react and put Serbia first.

We pray every day that you keep denying us the entry in the EU since the current leaders don't have much of brains to realize the the EU is failing and many countries, including England, want out of the EU....
(Milan, 25 April 2016 23:26)

"we".
When you take into account the turnout in the recent elections, it means that about 6.5% of voters hated the EU enough to vote for an anti-EU party

In a way he's right but if they allowed Greece to join EU which today is bankrupt, or if they allowed Bulgaria and Romania why not these countries too? Turkey on the other hand is not in Europe.

Ask her about her assets safely stowed away in the Cayman Islands... ...then you will see what an "honest" person she is. She is nothing but rubbish.

Joining the EU is a lose lose situation for all the Balkans-Bulgaria, Croatia, Greece and Romania can attest to that.
(Jugolsavija, 25 April 2016 19:22)

There is only a small issue that the Bulgarians, Croats and Greeks disagree with you and what's important is what they think about their respective countries, not what a certain Jugoslavija thinks.

Joining the EU is a lose lose situation for all the Balkans-Bulgaria, Croatia, Greece and Romania can attest to that.
(Jugolsavija, 25 April 2016 19:22)

That is not true, you just dreamed that up now.
A look at GDP data, employment data, salary data for Bulgaria for instance would say the complete opposite

Corruption can be stamped out.

Then could they join?

Serbia yes.
Albania maybe.
Turkey never.

So Terisa may want to look beyond human rights and corruption as she no doubt has a lot to learn not only what the Balkans are all about. The fact is that from that part of the world whe will have good people with good backgrounds wanting a form of escape of every day politics and hers in an example. As long as we have someone like her in power we wonder just what is per persetion or undrstanding of the countires she is having doubts about.

Joining the EU is a lose lose situation for all the Balkans-Bulgaria, Croatia, Greece and Romania can attest to that.
(Jugolsavija, 25 April 2016 19:22)

There is only a small issue that the Bulgarians, Croats and Greeks disagree with you and what's important is what they think about their respective countries, not what a certain Jugoslavija thinks.
(icj1, 26 April 2016 01:15)

There you have it our resident AI has declared it so, now sj, PS CE = Chief Economist declares it so and now return to your foetal position rocking backwards and forwards and babbling on and on, LOL.
(sj, 26 April 2016 10:12)

Yup, if AI means the Bulgarian, Croats and Greeks. And, obviously, as always, I agree that if the CE of B92 forums sj commands that they should return to their foetal position rocking backwards and forwards and babbling on and on, they must oblige :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

To ijc1

Why do you reply to Yugoslavia and to sj and you dont' reply to an Albanian like you? I am interested in Croatian online magazines in English and you said you have Croat friends. Can you please ask your friends about these magazines? Send the links here in the comment section so other people can see them and we can also comment there. I ask Lenard too if he can help me with this information.

To ijc1

Why do you reply to Yugoslavia and to sj and you dont' reply to an Albanian like you? I am interested in Croatian online magazines in English and you said you have Croat friends.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 26 April 2016 15:14)

Your asking this idiot for information, he will send you a picture of a checkerboard.

I am waiting ijc1. Maybe your friends haven't got back to you. I can ask everybody here and every Serb guy can help me with that but I want you to help me. Don't send any pictures as I am not curious for you personally. Send only links as soon as your friends get them to you. Screenshots also are OK.

There is only a small issue that the Bulgarians, Croats and Greeks disagree with you and what's important is what they think about their respective countries, not what a certain Jugoslavija thinks.
(icj1, 26 April 2016 01:15)

There you have it our resident AI has declared it so, now sj, PS CE = Chief Economist declares it so and now return to your foetal position rocking backwards and forwards and babbling on and on, LOL.

JONI : “The Orthodox Autocephalous Church of Albania”

In your link finally I’ve found the true name of most the Orthodox churches! At least the Russian one also has word AUTOCEPHALOUS in it name that can be interpreted only as SELF-CATHOLIC! All because the Catholic Church has appeared much later than the original Orthodox one. The real split happened only in late 16 century when the religious differences were miserable. The only essential reason of the split was territorial issue. The Germans (not Deutsch!) used Lutheran movement as a pretext to break away from the Great Horde though Martin himself wasn’t a separatist. Vatican supported the Germans and it gave birth to the Reformation bacchanalia. Anyway formally both churches are still Autocephalous i.e. Catholic.

sasa.p : Lenard is Andrian the Romanian. He is not Croatian

Though Adrian’s last comment was surprisingly smart those are two different Serbophobes. Parallel to it the Romanian is a Russophobe as well that is not so evident when it comes to Leonard. Besides Leo is the only one on this forum who has some knowledge about Mauro Orbini’s great book edited in 1601 and forbidden by Vatican in two years. In 1722 the book was edited in Russia under the title that sounded as below:

“«ИСТОРИОГРАФИЯ початия имене, славы, и разширения народа славянского и их Царей и Владетелей под многими имянами и со многими Царствиями, Королевствами, и Провинциами. Собрана из многих книг исторических, чрез Господина Мавроурбина Архимандрита Рагужского».

This Benedict monk from Dubrovnik has written the real history of the mankind. I’ve read the whole text and nothing that is written in the English and the Russian Wikipedia is true. Leonard had deep knowledge of the book and it’s history while I doubt that the Romanian has any idea of the name.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D1%80%D0%B1%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8,_%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%BE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mavro_Orbini

Rote, Autocephalous does not mean Selfcatholic or Autocatholic, it simply means Self-headed, ie. independent. It's is not a religious but an organizational qualification.

It means that this church (qualified as autocephalous) is independent of The Ecumenical Patriarchate in Constantinopole, it runs its own affairs organizationally.

Prizreni : It means that this church (qualified as autocephalous) is independent of The Ecumenical Patriarchate in Constantinopole,

That’s right! When Vatican separated from the Slavic Roman Empire they meant to show that they became free from the Orthodox church. Unlike the Catholic world where formally they all obey Vatican all 13 Orthodox churches are independent and therefore Autocephalic = Autocapholic = Autocatholic. But it does not contradict what I wrote. Since 1380 Constantinople became religious capital of the Roman Empire again. Military (the main) capitol at that time was Vladimir (=Poses the World) city initially built as the capitol of the world. The Roman empire you know has never existed. It was established on paper in 17 century. But it’s another story …

keep living in the clouds genius, don't become an economist, you don't have the brains for it.
(Jugoslavija, 26 April 2016 17:06)

The majority of EU citizens are better off in the EU. There is a vast amount of data that says so. You repeating some rumour you heard from while begging is not economics

No, they probably shouldn't at the moment. Mostly because of the UK/US/EU open help and support for corrupted polititians in these countries. They know it, but they do it. So this statement is quite hypocritical in my opinion.

It is wrong of the UK to lump Albanians in with Serbs because I never read of Serbs committing crimes in the UK at even 1% of the level of the ethnic Albanians.
Another article I just read on an illegal Albanian immigrant arrested for a huge amount of cocaine, mentioned that Albanians were 10% of the Europeans in British jails.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/7120715/Albanian-illegal-nabbed-in-15m-drug-bust.html

British home Secretary Ms Theresa you are simply Nobody to question for few countries they going to join EU or not. Those countries are in Europe and sooner or later they are IN. I'll loved to see in UK elections to vote Live and same for few years UK going to become POOR and CORRUPT.

Rote: Anyway formally both churches are still Autocephalous i.e. Catholic.


To be precise Autocephalous means Selfcatholic or Autocatholic. The only difference is how you read the Greek letter of «Ф» (фита). Because in the medieval times when all grammars were not stabile yet the letter had two possible soundings – like “th” and like “f” or “ph”. So “cefalous” and “catholic” means absolutely the same, one in Latin and the other in English.

It’s one of the multiple things the clergymen on both sides do not like to talk about. Say word APOSTOLIC is present in the titles of the churches on both sides. They always stress that both the Orthodox and the Catholic/Capholic churches are APOSTOLIC churches but they never explain what other options were also available.

All because that they will have to tell you about the so called “first Christians” as if prosecuted from the very beginning. What you will not hear is that the first Christians ruled the whole world for the first 180 years after Andronicus/Christ was tortured to death in Jerusalem/Vishgorod/Tsargrad. Because those were the Apostolic Christians who called them “pagans” and prosecuted them.

ask Lenard too if he can help me with this information.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 26 April 2016 15:14

Sorry,Skenderbeu,
Lenard is Andrian the Romanian. He is not Croatian (Lenard,Andrian) or Romanian ,but Albanian - Shqipire!.I notice that disputing information about Croatia.

Albania in the EU,- NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS!! All Albanians are corupts, thiefs, violent persons, they do not respect any women, event there own family women. All England is full of illegal Albanians already, and they are doing very wrong and against the law, stuff. And they do not care about that. Not event one Albanian should not have any access outside Albania. They threat and dangerous to everybody. They punch, kill, steel woman for prostitutes. Bad Bad individuals..ALBANIANS OUT OFf EU!!

Are your serious? Putting Albania and Serbia in the same category?
Lol
We don't want to be in the EU anyway. We prefer Russia !

We pray every day that you keep denying us the entry in the EU since the current leaders don't have much of brains to realize the the EU is failing and many countries, including England, want out of the EU....

RE: Albanian Pressure on Greek Orthodox Church

Shamelessly and without possessing even the slightest evidence, he slanders the Orthodox Archbishop, who according to him is "a representative of Northern Epirus Chauvinism" and who even cooperates with a Greek extremist nationalist party.http://www.pravoslavie.ru/english/91181.htm


The Panepirotic Federation of America (POA) strongly condemns the brutal attack on a Greek Orthodox church in the city of Premet in southern Albania on August 16 by hired government thugs who smashed icons and crosses and beat up worshippers trying to defend the only Christian house of worship in the cityhttp://www.pravoslavie.ru/english/print64056.htm

Athens has compared the demolition of the contested church of St Athanas in a village in southern Albania to the actions of Islamist jihadists in the Middle East. - See more at: http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/albania-authorities-demolish-village-church-in-the-dead-of-the-night-08-26-2015#sthash.KmPNnhlP.dpuf
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/albania-authorities-demolish-village-church-in-the-dead-of-the-night-08-26-2015

Corruption can be stamped out.

Then could they join?

Serbia yes.
Albania maybe.
Turkey never.

Yugos, the day after the Greeks protested against what happened to that gem of a church located in Drymades, Rama was called by the US Ambassador in Tirana and asked to give some details on what exactly were his men doing on the roof of that church, which literally collapsed under them. And voila, it looks like we will soon have a beautiful larger church instead of the original gem. It is called Greek charisma or compelling charm, Yugos ;)
Again, our churches have been regularly robbed for the last 20 years, there’s not a single country in the world our icons haven’t reached in their long and complicated sans frontieres journey around the world, and yet we are fine, believe me. Nobody can touch our Anastasios, Yugos, we love him and pray for him, believe me.

USA, England and Germany pretty much have the Balkans where they want it, isolated, poor and demonized! Jugoslavia was a big threat but now all these little crumbling countries in the Balkans, let nature take it's course and toll! That is pretty much the situation, now USA, England and Germany just sit back and enjoy the show!!!

Milosevic had a great chance to reorganize & reestablish a failing state and much more, however greed blurred his vision and distorted his moral thoughts & thus his moral duty of stabilizing a once stabil & prosperous federation was doome to failure!!!
(Peter the Rocky, 25 April 2016 17:44)

Milosevic was the least nationalist of all the former Yugoslav republics with the possible exception of Kucan of Slovenia. Tudjman, Izetbegovic, and Karadzic led to the eventual demise of the Socialist Yugoslavia. However, Milosevic can be guilty for stoking Serbian nationalism for political gain.

A united Balkan Federation whether by a free trade pact other than CEFTA is the only change that the southeastern peninsula in Europe can compete in the world economy. Joining the EU is a lose lose situation for all the Balkans-Bulgaria, Croatia, Greece and Romania can attest to that.

"Jugoslavia was a big threat but now all these little crumbling countries in the Balkans, let nature take it's course and toll!"
(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 25 April 2016 18:13)

A threat? How? Economically? Ridiculous. Maybe a threat like Turkey is nowadays: Threatening central Europe with millions of economic immigrants, like millions of Yugoslav emigrated in the 70th and 80th?

Sorry to spoil you, YU was irrelevant, economically and politically. There are much bigger countries that joined the EU, like Poland. And the small Netherlands or Austria are much more important for Europe.

There is a lot more to worry about terrorism in London, Paris, Bussels etc than in Serbia but let her talk sh!t.
After allowing Romani, Bulgaria and Croatia into EU she worries about poverty now? I wonder why Serbs are being targeted again. If only for local consumption then all's fine. I hope that Serbia doesn't get admitted to that dictatorship but if there is more to it and the population is being conditioned again for something much worse then Vucic will have to react and put Serbia first.

Albania in the EU,- NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS!! All Albanians are corupts, thiefs, violent persons, they do not respect any women, event there own family women. All England is full of illegal Albanians already, and they are doing very wrong and against the law, stuff. And they do not care about that. Not event one Albanian should not have any access outside Albania. They threat and dangerous to everybody. They punch, kill, steel woman for prostitutes. Bad Bad individuals..ALBANIANS OUT OFf EU!!

Bulgarian politicians would celebrate because they'd finally be able to look down their noses at Albania. Oh, and Bulgaria would not long be by far the most corrupt country in the EU.

The Panepirotic Federation of America (POA) strongly condemns the brutal attack on a Greek Orthodox church in the city of Premet in southern Albania ....

Hahahaha,
Permet is Greek city?!!!
Hahahahaha,
What sick statement.
Permet is as greek, as much as Belgrade is Albanian...
There is not a single Greek in Permet.
How they come up with this idiot statement?
The Church in the story, was Albanian Orthodox Church and used to belong to Albanian orthodox community, not greek one.

Well, Milan, like it or not, for a Brit, Albania & Serbia are in the same category. For this nation of degenerated thieves, you're all the same. For the West you're the same shit. Why? But because you're not Bulgaria & Romania, you morons, you're far away from Russia, although neither Belgrade nor Tirana have ever been as corrupted as Sofia & Bucharest have always been. The day that you Balcanic morons will finally understand this and instead of acting like stupid kids will unite with each other and help each other to join the EU, that day you'll be finally considered mature nations. You could fuck the whole world, you morons, if you could only look at the map and finally realize that you're not sharing borders with Oklahoma City, London, or Moscow, but with each other. Until then, keep entertaining Prince Charles & the Duchess of Cornwell Camilla. My last, sincere, rant on this topic.

There is only a small issue that the Bulgarians, Croats and Greeks disagree with you and what's important is what they think about their respective countries, not what a certain Jugoslavija thinks.
(icj1, 26 April 2016 01:15)

There you have it our resident AI has declared it so, now sj, PS CE = Chief Economist declares it so and now return to your foetal position rocking backwards and forwards and babbling on and on, LOL.

To ijc1

Why do you reply to Yugoslavia and to sj and you dont' reply to an Albanian like you? I am interested in Croatian online magazines in English and you said you have Croat friends.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 26 April 2016 15:14)

Your asking this idiot for information, he will send you a picture of a checkerboard.

It is wrong of the UK to lump Albanians in with Serbs because I never read of Serbs committing crimes in the UK at even 1% of the level of the ethnic Albanians.
Another article I just read on an illegal Albanian immigrant arrested for a huge amount of cocaine, mentioned that Albanians were 10% of the Europeans in British jails.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/7120715/Albanian-illegal-nabbed-in-15m-drug-bust.html

Thank you Theresa May!!!!!

Ask her about her assets safely stowed away in the Cayman Islands... ...then you will see what an "honest" person she is. She is nothing but rubbish.

Joining the EU is a lose lose situation for all the Balkans-Bulgaria, Croatia, Greece and Romania can attest to that.
(Jugolsavija, 25 April 2016 19:22)

There is only a small issue that the Bulgarians, Croats and Greeks disagree with you and what's important is what they think about their respective countries, not what a certain Jugoslavija thinks.

ask Lenard too if he can help me with this information.
(Skenderbeu 1444, 26 April 2016 15:14

Sorry,Skenderbeu,
Lenard is Andrian the Romanian. He is not Croatian (Lenard,Andrian) or Romanian ,but Albanian - Shqipire!.I notice that disputing information about Croatia.

Sorry to spoil you, YU was irrelevant, economically and politically. There are much bigger countries that joined the EU, like Poland. And the small Netherlands or Austria are much more important for Europe.
(Comm. Parrisson, 25 April 2016 19:20)

Nonsense, is that why the US and EU loaned millions to Tito and the Socialist Republic of Yugoslavia. It became irrelevant when the Soviet bloc dissolved.

In a way he's right but if they allowed Greece to join EU which today is bankrupt, or if they allowed Bulgaria and Romania why not these countries too? Turkey on the other hand is not in Europe.

That is not true, you just dreamed that up now.
A look at GDP data, employment data, salary data for Bulgaria for instance would say the complete opposite
(Dwight, 26 April 2016 10:34)

What is it with Albanian comments and putting words in other people's comments.......> "You just dreamed up that now"

If Bulgaria is doing so great, why are Bulgarians playing the flutes in rags collecting money in tins all across Greece-Thessaloniki, Kilkis, Serres, Kozani, Kastoria, etc etc. Why are Bulgarian migrants constantly coming to work in Greek for poverty wages?

Greece, Bulgaria, Croatia, all have double digit unemployment-is this the benefit of EU membership?

Keep living in the clouds genius, don't become an economist, you don't have the brains for it.

JONI : “The Orthodox Autocephalous Church of Albania”

In your link finally I’ve found the true name of most the Orthodox churches! At least the Russian one also has word AUTOCEPHALOUS in it name that can be interpreted only as SELF-CATHOLIC! All because the Catholic Church has appeared much later than the original Orthodox one. The real split happened only in late 16 century when the religious differences were miserable. The only essential reason of the split was territorial issue. The Germans (not Deutsch!) used Lutheran movement as a pretext to break away from the Great Horde though Martin himself wasn’t a separatist. Vatican supported the Germans and it gave birth to the Reformation bacchanalia. Anyway formally both churches are still Autocephalous i.e. Catholic.

Prizreni : It means that this church (qualified as autocephalous) is independent of The Ecumenical Patriarchate in Constantinopole,

That’s right! When Vatican separated from the Slavic Roman Empire they meant to show that they became free from the Orthodox church. Unlike the Catholic world where formally they all obey Vatican all 13 Orthodox churches are independent and therefore Autocephalic = Autocapholic = Autocatholic. But it does not contradict what I wrote. Since 1380 Constantinople became religious capital of the Roman Empire again. Military (the main) capitol at that time was Vladimir (=Poses the World) city initially built as the capitol of the world. The Roman empire you know has never existed. It was established on paper in 17 century. But it’s another story …

I'll bet there is more corruption in Britain compared to Albania Serbia, and this by a long shot! It's just Britains economy is so much larger that it makes it much easier to downplay! British nationals by the 100s have join terrorist organizations around the world, much more then the entire Balkans combined.. I'm starting to believe the likes of Tito needs to once again try and unify the entire Balkan region as 1, much more leverage in dealing with the big players, the likes of the U.S, EU, and Russia!!! Divisions are the best weapons deployed when seeking control of smaller weaker country's! Milosevic had a great chance to reorganize & reestablish a failing state and much more, however greed blurred his vision and distorted his moral thoughts & thus his moral duty of stabilizing a once stabil & prosperous federation was doome to failure!!!

Rote: Anyway formally both churches are still Autocephalous i.e. Catholic.


To be precise Autocephalous means Selfcatholic or Autocatholic. The only difference is how you read the Greek letter of «Ф» (фита). Because in the medieval times when all grammars were not stabile yet the letter had two possible soundings – like “th” and like “f” or “ph”. So “cefalous” and “catholic” means absolutely the same, one in Latin and the other in English.

It’s one of the multiple things the clergymen on both sides do not like to talk about. Say word APOSTOLIC is present in the titles of the churches on both sides. They always stress that both the Orthodox and the Catholic/Capholic churches are APOSTOLIC churches but they never explain what other options were also available.

All because that they will have to tell you about the so called “first Christians” as if prosecuted from the very beginning. What you will not hear is that the first Christians ruled the whole world for the first 180 years after Andronicus/Christ was tortured to death in Jerusalem/Vishgorod/Tsargrad. Because those were the Apostolic Christians who called them “pagans” and prosecuted them.

I disagree with one point: terrorism, especially the Islamic kind, is more of a problem in London than in Tirana.

But otherwise I agree with her sentiment. Albania and Denmark don't belong in the same place. For that matter Greece and Bulgaria don't belong in EU either.

But my point is that Albanians need to reform their government and their courts. The notice that EU funds will not be forthcoming may serve to make the Albanian government more responsive to its citizens' needs, as opposed to the whims of Eurocrats.

So Terisa may want to look beyond human rights and corruption as she no doubt has a lot to learn not only what the Balkans are all about. The fact is that from that part of the world whe will have good people with good backgrounds wanting a form of escape of every day politics and hers in an example. As long as we have someone like her in power we wonder just what is per persetion or undrstanding of the countires she is having doubts about.

@ jUGOSLAVIA

???RE: Albanian Pressure on Greek Orthodox Church ? – When Albania has intervened in Greek churchs affairs?
Shameless was to see that building to function like a church.
Shameless was the reaction of the Greece, which destroy, restore, rebuild her churches as much as it needed, nobody interfere in her internal affairs – but I wonder why they stop then. Why they change attitude? Once again the villagers were the church stand, kicked out the Greek representatives! Ha ha ha! Lovely!
Now, have I to show how an Orthodox Church look like my dear?
Ouuu… Here you have!
http://myocn.net/breaking-second-attack-on-orthodox-church-in-dhermi-albania/
http://myocn.net/church-of-st-athanasius-leveled-by-albanian-government/

Stop with IDIOTIC propaganda – that must be “ALL” but not a Church!

If you show or find to me another Orthodox church who looks like this in Greece, Serbia or in any other country then we can talk…
Show to us how a church look like Yugoslavia!
Until then, stop seeing the other business and let us build our Churches, better go and see your flooded churches.

Joining the EU is a lose lose situation for all the Balkans-Bulgaria, Croatia, Greece and Romania can attest to that.
(Jugolsavija, 25 April 2016 19:22)

There is only a small issue that the Bulgarians, Croats and Greeks disagree with you and what's important is what they think about their respective countries, not what a certain Jugoslavija thinks.
(icj1, 26 April 2016 01:15)

There you have it our resident AI has declared it so, now sj, PS CE = Chief Economist declares it so and now return to your foetal position rocking backwards and forwards and babbling on and on, LOL.
(sj, 26 April 2016 10:12)

Yup, if AI means the Bulgarian, Croats and Greeks. And, obviously, as always, I agree that if the CE of B92 forums sj commands that they should return to their foetal position rocking backwards and forwards and babbling on and on, they must oblige :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

British home Secretary Ms Theresa you are simply Nobody to question for few countries they going to join EU or not. Those countries are in Europe and sooner or later they are IN. I'll loved to see in UK elections to vote Live and same for few years UK going to become POOR and CORRUPT.

To ijc1

Why do you reply to Yugoslavia and to sj and you dont' reply to an Albanian like you? I am interested in Croatian online magazines in English and you said you have Croat friends. Can you please ask your friends about these magazines? Send the links here in the comment section so other people can see them and we can also comment there. I ask Lenard too if he can help me with this information.

Joining the EU is a lose lose situation for all the Balkans-Bulgaria, Croatia, Greece and Romania can attest to that.
(Jugolsavija, 25 April 2016 19:22)

That is not true, you just dreamed that up now.
A look at GDP data, employment data, salary data for Bulgaria for instance would say the complete opposite

sasa.p : Lenard is Andrian the Romanian. He is not Croatian

Though Adrian’s last comment was surprisingly smart those are two different Serbophobes. Parallel to it the Romanian is a Russophobe as well that is not so evident when it comes to Leonard. Besides Leo is the only one on this forum who has some knowledge about Mauro Orbini’s great book edited in 1601 and forbidden by Vatican in two years. In 1722 the book was edited in Russia under the title that sounded as below:

“«ИСТОРИОГРАФИЯ початия имене, славы, и разширения народа славянского и их Царей и Владетелей под многими имянами и со многими Царствиями, Королевствами, и Провинциами. Собрана из многих книг исторических, чрез Господина Мавроурбина Архимандрита Рагужского».

This Benedict monk from Dubrovnik has written the real history of the mankind. I’ve read the whole text and nothing that is written in the English and the Russian Wikipedia is true. Leonard had deep knowledge of the book and it’s history while I doubt that the Romanian has any idea of the name.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D1%80%D0%B1%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B8,_%D0%9C%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%BE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mavro_Orbini

I am waiting ijc1. Maybe your friends haven't got back to you. I can ask everybody here and every Serb guy can help me with that but I want you to help me. Don't send any pictures as I am not curious for you personally. Send only links as soon as your friends get them to you. Screenshots also are OK.

No, they probably shouldn't at the moment. Mostly because of the UK/US/EU open help and support for corrupted polititians in these countries. They know it, but they do it. So this statement is quite hypocritical in my opinion.

This is obviously for local consumption.

However, we should all learn from rich England's example. Here is a video of those wealthy people stealing water allocated for the London marathon. Check -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6M7o1UFG3E

We pray every day that you keep denying us the entry in the EU since the current leaders don't have much of brains to realize the the EU is failing and many countries, including England, want out of the EU....
(Milan, 25 April 2016 23:26)

"we".
When you take into account the turnout in the recent elections, it means that about 6.5% of voters hated the EU enough to vote for an anti-EU party

"Should poor, corrupt Albania, Serbia, and Turkey join EU?"

Yes, except the Turkey. Which should be divided between Syria, Iran, Kurdistan, Bulgaria, Greece, Armenia, Georgia somehow.

Except the Ankara Pashalyk, 10 square meters of jail - that is Turkey, for Erdogan.
No more than 10 square meters.

Rote, Autocephalous does not mean Selfcatholic or Autocatholic, it simply means Self-headed, ie. independent. It's is not a religious but an organizational qualification.

It means that this church (qualified as autocephalous) is independent of The Ecumenical Patriarchate in Constantinopole, it runs its own affairs organizationally.

keep living in the clouds genius, don't become an economist, you don't have the brains for it.
(Jugoslavija, 26 April 2016 17:06)

The majority of EU citizens are better off in the EU. There is a vast amount of data that says so. You repeating some rumour you heard from while begging is not economics