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Wednesday, 09.03.2016.

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Serbian president says Russia is his nation's "defender"

Serbian President Tomislav Nikolic has told TASS that Russia has always positioned itself as "the defender of the Serbian people."

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icj1

pre 8 godina

Serbia's entire history since Rastko Nemanja (St. Sava) is categorized by being neither East nor West... and being both East and West.

This is the only sane and logical policy for a country in the geographic position of Serbia. It is also the most profitable.

Serbia just needs to continue to "be neither/ be both" at the same time.
(factman, 11 March 2016 16:59)

That's a total non-sense and is mathematically impossible. Given the following:

X = Serbia
A = Est
B = West

If X does not belong to A or B, then X cannot belong to the union of A and B

If X belongs to the union of A and B, then X must belong to A or B.

That's basic set theory. Isn't that taught in Serbia?!

factman

pre 8 godina

Most of the writings below are ignorant and terribly unsophisticated.

The goal is to make the guy on the East to think you are on his side.... while also doing the same to the guy in the West.

There is no compelling need to join NATO.

By being encircled by NATO you have pretty much guaranteed that you will be very safe.

Be neutral. Much more money in it.

To the dude below that writes that Serbia has already joined NATO?
-- Not. It is equally funny that he quotes a right wing Serb politician (which only confirms this dude's lack of principal).

To the same dude who says it is a requirement of the EU?
-- Not.

Serbia's entire history since Rastko Nemanja (St. Sava) is categorized by being neither East nor West... and being both East and West.

This is the only sane and logical policy for a country in the geographic position of Serbia. It is also the most profitable.

Serbia just needs to continue to "be neither/ be both" at the same time.

Don't go this way.... or that way.

Go neither way/ Go both ways.

Walk the tightrope.

Don't allow them to push you into choosing.... and don't be neutral.

Both sides need you.

Prosperity comes from this.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Russia under Yeltsin was lucky to remain unoccupied let alone be in a position to help someone.
This is a different Russia and Putin in is power.
(Peggy, 9 March 2016 22:58)

Well, Russia under Yeltsin sent Russian soldier to Kosovo, helping Serbs with actions not just words.

But, I agree with you that with Putin in power this is a different Russia. Putin, withdrew Russian soldiers from Kosovo and has helped Serbs' cause in Kosovo with words, not actions.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Russia defended Serbia as recently as vetoing the UN resolution attempting to falsely pin genocide on the Serbian nation.
(Zoran, 10 March 2016 09:19)

I'm not aware of any draft UN resolution attempting to pin genocide on the Serbian nation.

So it looks like Russia "defended" Serbia against something that nobody attempted! Nice assistance lol

Zoran

pre 8 godina

Defender from what? The only time since WWII when Serbia needed to be defended, Russia was nowhere to be found...
(LK, 9 March 2016 18:42)
--
Russia defended Serbia as recently as vetoing the UN resolution attempting to falsely pin genocide on the Serbian nation. Something that the West and UK attempted to do so they can justify their crimes, illegal invasion and occupation of Serbia. Also, covering up the genocide in which they were involved by expelling hundreds of thousands of Serbs from KiM, Croatia and BiH.

We, the Serbian people, stand shoulder to shoulder with Russia. Our politicians, on the other hand, are a bunch of cowards.

rote

pre 8 godina

Bob : A strong Serbia could be proud to join NATO where it would find a positive role

What positive role are you talking about if all junior members of NATO simply suck the way they are told? What positive role do you mean for an organization that has never done a single good deed in it’s history?

Bob : wrong path Serbia had gone down in terms of ethnic violence

Serbs just defended Yugoslavia from the separatists brought up by NATO, armed by NATO and sent here by NATO to split this strong state for micro pseudo states that are so easy to manipulate now. Because they all have to suck.

Bob : Russia has a demagogue

Is “demagogue” a new synonymous for the “truth” now? You know that telling the truth is one of the advantages Russia enjoys today. All the rest have to manipulate but always time comes when all their shit goes to the ventilator and it’s the deadly arms Russia is armed with today.


P.S. Not only you but all other Bander Logs here believe that they are smarter than the Serbs and that they know better what is good for the Serbs and that they can influence Serbs. You don't even know how silly and aqward you all look.

your joking

pre 8 godina

First of all Serbia did not exist after WW2 or even after WW1. It was Yugoslavia and that meant that our enemies had a say in what we did. Tito especially ruled like a dictator and he wasn't a Serb.
I can think of worse fates than Russia taking over. If Serbia is going to go down because of declining birth rate we better hand it over to Russia before Albanians swoop in again with Croats and Bosniaks, but I think Albania will disappear before Serbia does even with your incredibly high birth rate.
(Peggy, 9 March 2016 22:55) first off I am not Albanian but a Serb......croats are in worse position....their population is shrinking just as fast if not faster....bosniaks are the same not increasing but not shrinking either.....if you think the Albanians are going to disappear faster ,stop drinking....former Yugoslavia is disappearing not the Albanians....the Serbs have to change the birth rate now....if they want a future and have youth other wise just give the country to whoever....same with all of former Yugoslavia.....that's all the big nations are waiting for wake up and grow up.... look at reality.....Russia could care less about Serbs......nobody cares for any of the former Yugoslavia.....but the land they do yes.......useful its central it has a coastal like Montenegro why do you think everyone wants it because they like the people there lol.......no at all....its all strategic.....you should agree and say yes Serbs need more babies and not change the story..

Rocky

pre 8 godina

Yea, my a.. Nikolic!
Why can't Serbian politicians be strait with their people?
If I may!
http://inserbia.info/today/2016/03/trifkovic-serbia-is-now-de-facto-at-natos-disposal/

Bob

pre 8 godina

Neutral = Failed.

Serbia wasn't neutral during the 90s. Serbia was dragged down by its own internal politics.

Serbia was messed up. Nikolic is still cowed by the fact that (for good or for ill) NATO intervened and put a full stop to the ability of Sebia to Indulge in violence. NATO is the countries of Europe plus a few more besides. They stamped on Serbia because they couldn't tolerate the wrong path Serbia had gone down in terms of ethnic violence.

Nicolic has been crying to daddy in his attitude to Russia. Sad really.

That's a weak path. Leaving Sebia locally isolated and politically an oddity.

A strong Serbia could be proud to join NATO where it would find a positive role, rather than be obscurely and powerlessly linked to Russia just because Russia has the 'right' kind of priest and because Russia has a demagogue who will condescendingly give nice reassuring pats on the back.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Russia will never help Serbia in anything.....they never helped since ww2......your a small nation that's dying out ,your aging .....your population is shrinking every year......you have 0-1 kid........Russia will take your country and sweep the remaining Serbs to the old folks home........Serbia will be their nation if you sign it over to them soon, better for you because your nation does not make babies at all .........unless you change your birth rate this is going to happen......
(your joking, 9 March 2016 20:32
==================================
First of all Serbia did not exist after WW2 or even after WW1. It was Yugoslavia and that meant that our enemies had a say in what we did. Tito especially ruled like a dictator and he wasn't a Serb.
I can think of worse fates than Russia taking over. If Serbia is going to go down because of declining birth rate we better hand it over to Russia before Albanians swoop in again with Croats and Bosniaks, but I think Albania will disappear before Serbia does even with your incredibly high birth rate.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

@LK, do you have another song to sing?
That has already been explained numerous times. Russia under Yeltsin was lucky to remain unoccupied let alone be in a position to help someone.
This is a different Russia and Putin in is power. It would serve you well to remember that so that you won't make a fool of yourself again.

rote

pre 8 godina

your joking : Serbia will be their nation

Serbia IS already our nation as well as Russia IS Serbian. 400-500 years ago we simply were one people. The only problem is that Serbia does not use the available force. The ball is on the Serbian side while you will be the last one whose advice they will follow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep2_eHqk1L4

LK : They couldn't even send some shiny S-300 anti-air missiles like Greece, Syria, and Iran have.

Vain fool you are if you still hope to provoke split between the two brotherly peoples. You manipulate facts when you mix Greece and Syria for the USSR was the most powerful and most influential state of the world. We helped the Greeks as another very close people and they haven’t betrayed us. None of the S-300 secrets went to NATO. Meanwhile our support to Iran and Syria happened in 2015-16 but not 1999 when Russia stood on it knees with Russian Dindic at the helm. But don’t worry we’ll be back to replay some of the wars including the Storm Operation. Just be sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8sRkH_bCW8


PS LKR9C was the parol for this comment

your joking

pre 8 godina

Russia will never help Serbia in anything.....they never helped since ww2......your a small nation that's dying out ,your aging .....your population is shrinking every year......you have 0-1 kid........Russia will take your country and sweep the remaining Serbs to the old folks home........Serbia will be their nation if you sign it over to them soon, better for you because your nation does not make babies at all .........unless you change your birth rate this is going to happen......

LK

pre 8 godina

Defender from what? The only time since WWII when Serbia needed to be defended, Russia was nowhere to be found, except for a few Russian SFOR peacekeepers from Bosnia temporarily occupying Pristina airport after everything was over. They couldn't even send some shiny S-300 anti-air missiles like Greece, Syria, and Iran have. Nope, they just stood there and watched. I'm not very good with my Serbian, but perhaps ally or defender doesn't translate well into Serbian from English.

Diana

pre 8 godina

It appears that vucic nicolic and others have sold out to NATO. They will make great EU politicians in time like the traitors in Britain, but not great for the people.the only thing they are scared of though are the people when they start to realise they have been betrayed, hence all the deception and lies and decisions made behind closed doors in Brussels.

ivan

pre 8 godina

Show that love for Russia by extending the same privileges you gave to the destroyers/occupiers of our nation. If anything, just to counterbalance any potential threats because we know that anything signed by the US/Nato is not worth the toilet paper it's written on. At most, let the Russians build a few military bases housing some nukes, and then, rest assured, you will feel protected.

Zoran

pre 8 godina

Poor Nikolic, going to talk to Putin about his secrets and problems. I wonder what that may be? That he has been brown nosing NATO and the US only because they twisted his arm? Check -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AdooSjrtxE

We didn't do that while Russia was weak but now that Russia is strong, we have weak leaders ready to sell out! Vucic and Nikolic will not go down in Serbian history very well.

Zoran

pre 8 godina

Poor Nikolic, going to talk to Putin about his secrets and problems. I wonder what that may be? That he has been brown nosing NATO and the US only because they twisted his arm? Check -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AdooSjrtxE

We didn't do that while Russia was weak but now that Russia is strong, we have weak leaders ready to sell out! Vucic and Nikolic will not go down in Serbian history very well.

ivan

pre 8 godina

Show that love for Russia by extending the same privileges you gave to the destroyers/occupiers of our nation. If anything, just to counterbalance any potential threats because we know that anything signed by the US/Nato is not worth the toilet paper it's written on. At most, let the Russians build a few military bases housing some nukes, and then, rest assured, you will feel protected.

LK

pre 8 godina

Defender from what? The only time since WWII when Serbia needed to be defended, Russia was nowhere to be found, except for a few Russian SFOR peacekeepers from Bosnia temporarily occupying Pristina airport after everything was over. They couldn't even send some shiny S-300 anti-air missiles like Greece, Syria, and Iran have. Nope, they just stood there and watched. I'm not very good with my Serbian, but perhaps ally or defender doesn't translate well into Serbian from English.

Diana

pre 8 godina

It appears that vucic nicolic and others have sold out to NATO. They will make great EU politicians in time like the traitors in Britain, but not great for the people.the only thing they are scared of though are the people when they start to realise they have been betrayed, hence all the deception and lies and decisions made behind closed doors in Brussels.

your joking

pre 8 godina

Russia will never help Serbia in anything.....they never helped since ww2......your a small nation that's dying out ,your aging .....your population is shrinking every year......you have 0-1 kid........Russia will take your country and sweep the remaining Serbs to the old folks home........Serbia will be their nation if you sign it over to them soon, better for you because your nation does not make babies at all .........unless you change your birth rate this is going to happen......

rote

pre 8 godina

your joking : Serbia will be their nation

Serbia IS already our nation as well as Russia IS Serbian. 400-500 years ago we simply were one people. The only problem is that Serbia does not use the available force. The ball is on the Serbian side while you will be the last one whose advice they will follow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep2_eHqk1L4

LK : They couldn't even send some shiny S-300 anti-air missiles like Greece, Syria, and Iran have.

Vain fool you are if you still hope to provoke split between the two brotherly peoples. You manipulate facts when you mix Greece and Syria for the USSR was the most powerful and most influential state of the world. We helped the Greeks as another very close people and they haven’t betrayed us. None of the S-300 secrets went to NATO. Meanwhile our support to Iran and Syria happened in 2015-16 but not 1999 when Russia stood on it knees with Russian Dindic at the helm. But don’t worry we’ll be back to replay some of the wars including the Storm Operation. Just be sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8sRkH_bCW8


PS LKR9C was the parol for this comment

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Russia will never help Serbia in anything.....they never helped since ww2......your a small nation that's dying out ,your aging .....your population is shrinking every year......you have 0-1 kid........Russia will take your country and sweep the remaining Serbs to the old folks home........Serbia will be their nation if you sign it over to them soon, better for you because your nation does not make babies at all .........unless you change your birth rate this is going to happen......
(your joking, 9 March 2016 20:32
==================================
First of all Serbia did not exist after WW2 or even after WW1. It was Yugoslavia and that meant that our enemies had a say in what we did. Tito especially ruled like a dictator and he wasn't a Serb.
I can think of worse fates than Russia taking over. If Serbia is going to go down because of declining birth rate we better hand it over to Russia before Albanians swoop in again with Croats and Bosniaks, but I think Albania will disappear before Serbia does even with your incredibly high birth rate.

Bob

pre 8 godina

Neutral = Failed.

Serbia wasn't neutral during the 90s. Serbia was dragged down by its own internal politics.

Serbia was messed up. Nikolic is still cowed by the fact that (for good or for ill) NATO intervened and put a full stop to the ability of Sebia to Indulge in violence. NATO is the countries of Europe plus a few more besides. They stamped on Serbia because they couldn't tolerate the wrong path Serbia had gone down in terms of ethnic violence.

Nicolic has been crying to daddy in his attitude to Russia. Sad really.

That's a weak path. Leaving Sebia locally isolated and politically an oddity.

A strong Serbia could be proud to join NATO where it would find a positive role, rather than be obscurely and powerlessly linked to Russia just because Russia has the 'right' kind of priest and because Russia has a demagogue who will condescendingly give nice reassuring pats on the back.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

@LK, do you have another song to sing?
That has already been explained numerous times. Russia under Yeltsin was lucky to remain unoccupied let alone be in a position to help someone.
This is a different Russia and Putin in is power. It would serve you well to remember that so that you won't make a fool of yourself again.

your joking

pre 8 godina

First of all Serbia did not exist after WW2 or even after WW1. It was Yugoslavia and that meant that our enemies had a say in what we did. Tito especially ruled like a dictator and he wasn't a Serb.
I can think of worse fates than Russia taking over. If Serbia is going to go down because of declining birth rate we better hand it over to Russia before Albanians swoop in again with Croats and Bosniaks, but I think Albania will disappear before Serbia does even with your incredibly high birth rate.
(Peggy, 9 March 2016 22:55) first off I am not Albanian but a Serb......croats are in worse position....their population is shrinking just as fast if not faster....bosniaks are the same not increasing but not shrinking either.....if you think the Albanians are going to disappear faster ,stop drinking....former Yugoslavia is disappearing not the Albanians....the Serbs have to change the birth rate now....if they want a future and have youth other wise just give the country to whoever....same with all of former Yugoslavia.....that's all the big nations are waiting for wake up and grow up.... look at reality.....Russia could care less about Serbs......nobody cares for any of the former Yugoslavia.....but the land they do yes.......useful its central it has a coastal like Montenegro why do you think everyone wants it because they like the people there lol.......no at all....its all strategic.....you should agree and say yes Serbs need more babies and not change the story..

Rocky

pre 8 godina

Yea, my a.. Nikolic!
Why can't Serbian politicians be strait with their people?
If I may!
http://inserbia.info/today/2016/03/trifkovic-serbia-is-now-de-facto-at-natos-disposal/

rote

pre 8 godina

Bob : A strong Serbia could be proud to join NATO where it would find a positive role

What positive role are you talking about if all junior members of NATO simply suck the way they are told? What positive role do you mean for an organization that has never done a single good deed in it’s history?

Bob : wrong path Serbia had gone down in terms of ethnic violence

Serbs just defended Yugoslavia from the separatists brought up by NATO, armed by NATO and sent here by NATO to split this strong state for micro pseudo states that are so easy to manipulate now. Because they all have to suck.

Bob : Russia has a demagogue

Is “demagogue” a new synonymous for the “truth” now? You know that telling the truth is one of the advantages Russia enjoys today. All the rest have to manipulate but always time comes when all their shit goes to the ventilator and it’s the deadly arms Russia is armed with today.


P.S. Not only you but all other Bander Logs here believe that they are smarter than the Serbs and that they know better what is good for the Serbs and that they can influence Serbs. You don't even know how silly and aqward you all look.

Zoran

pre 8 godina

Defender from what? The only time since WWII when Serbia needed to be defended, Russia was nowhere to be found...
(LK, 9 March 2016 18:42)
--
Russia defended Serbia as recently as vetoing the UN resolution attempting to falsely pin genocide on the Serbian nation. Something that the West and UK attempted to do so they can justify their crimes, illegal invasion and occupation of Serbia. Also, covering up the genocide in which they were involved by expelling hundreds of thousands of Serbs from KiM, Croatia and BiH.

We, the Serbian people, stand shoulder to shoulder with Russia. Our politicians, on the other hand, are a bunch of cowards.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Russia under Yeltsin was lucky to remain unoccupied let alone be in a position to help someone.
This is a different Russia and Putin in is power.
(Peggy, 9 March 2016 22:58)

Well, Russia under Yeltsin sent Russian soldier to Kosovo, helping Serbs with actions not just words.

But, I agree with you that with Putin in power this is a different Russia. Putin, withdrew Russian soldiers from Kosovo and has helped Serbs' cause in Kosovo with words, not actions.

factman

pre 8 godina

Most of the writings below are ignorant and terribly unsophisticated.

The goal is to make the guy on the East to think you are on his side.... while also doing the same to the guy in the West.

There is no compelling need to join NATO.

By being encircled by NATO you have pretty much guaranteed that you will be very safe.

Be neutral. Much more money in it.

To the dude below that writes that Serbia has already joined NATO?
-- Not. It is equally funny that he quotes a right wing Serb politician (which only confirms this dude's lack of principal).

To the same dude who says it is a requirement of the EU?
-- Not.

Serbia's entire history since Rastko Nemanja (St. Sava) is categorized by being neither East nor West... and being both East and West.

This is the only sane and logical policy for a country in the geographic position of Serbia. It is also the most profitable.

Serbia just needs to continue to "be neither/ be both" at the same time.

Don't go this way.... or that way.

Go neither way/ Go both ways.

Walk the tightrope.

Don't allow them to push you into choosing.... and don't be neutral.

Both sides need you.

Prosperity comes from this.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Russia defended Serbia as recently as vetoing the UN resolution attempting to falsely pin genocide on the Serbian nation.
(Zoran, 10 March 2016 09:19)

I'm not aware of any draft UN resolution attempting to pin genocide on the Serbian nation.

So it looks like Russia "defended" Serbia against something that nobody attempted! Nice assistance lol

icj1

pre 8 godina

Serbia's entire history since Rastko Nemanja (St. Sava) is categorized by being neither East nor West... and being both East and West.

This is the only sane and logical policy for a country in the geographic position of Serbia. It is also the most profitable.

Serbia just needs to continue to "be neither/ be both" at the same time.
(factman, 11 March 2016 16:59)

That's a total non-sense and is mathematically impossible. Given the following:

X = Serbia
A = Est
B = West

If X does not belong to A or B, then X cannot belong to the union of A and B

If X belongs to the union of A and B, then X must belong to A or B.

That's basic set theory. Isn't that taught in Serbia?!

Bob

pre 8 godina

Neutral = Failed.

Serbia wasn't neutral during the 90s. Serbia was dragged down by its own internal politics.

Serbia was messed up. Nikolic is still cowed by the fact that (for good or for ill) NATO intervened and put a full stop to the ability of Sebia to Indulge in violence. NATO is the countries of Europe plus a few more besides. They stamped on Serbia because they couldn't tolerate the wrong path Serbia had gone down in terms of ethnic violence.

Nicolic has been crying to daddy in his attitude to Russia. Sad really.

That's a weak path. Leaving Sebia locally isolated and politically an oddity.

A strong Serbia could be proud to join NATO where it would find a positive role, rather than be obscurely and powerlessly linked to Russia just because Russia has the 'right' kind of priest and because Russia has a demagogue who will condescendingly give nice reassuring pats on the back.

ivan

pre 8 godina

Show that love for Russia by extending the same privileges you gave to the destroyers/occupiers of our nation. If anything, just to counterbalance any potential threats because we know that anything signed by the US/Nato is not worth the toilet paper it's written on. At most, let the Russians build a few military bases housing some nukes, and then, rest assured, you will feel protected.

Diana

pre 8 godina

It appears that vucic nicolic and others have sold out to NATO. They will make great EU politicians in time like the traitors in Britain, but not great for the people.the only thing they are scared of though are the people when they start to realise they have been betrayed, hence all the deception and lies and decisions made behind closed doors in Brussels.

your joking

pre 8 godina

Russia will never help Serbia in anything.....they never helped since ww2......your a small nation that's dying out ,your aging .....your population is shrinking every year......you have 0-1 kid........Russia will take your country and sweep the remaining Serbs to the old folks home........Serbia will be their nation if you sign it over to them soon, better for you because your nation does not make babies at all .........unless you change your birth rate this is going to happen......

LK

pre 8 godina

Defender from what? The only time since WWII when Serbia needed to be defended, Russia was nowhere to be found, except for a few Russian SFOR peacekeepers from Bosnia temporarily occupying Pristina airport after everything was over. They couldn't even send some shiny S-300 anti-air missiles like Greece, Syria, and Iran have. Nope, they just stood there and watched. I'm not very good with my Serbian, but perhaps ally or defender doesn't translate well into Serbian from English.

rote

pre 8 godina

your joking : Serbia will be their nation

Serbia IS already our nation as well as Russia IS Serbian. 400-500 years ago we simply were one people. The only problem is that Serbia does not use the available force. The ball is on the Serbian side while you will be the last one whose advice they will follow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep2_eHqk1L4

LK : They couldn't even send some shiny S-300 anti-air missiles like Greece, Syria, and Iran have.

Vain fool you are if you still hope to provoke split between the two brotherly peoples. You manipulate facts when you mix Greece and Syria for the USSR was the most powerful and most influential state of the world. We helped the Greeks as another very close people and they haven’t betrayed us. None of the S-300 secrets went to NATO. Meanwhile our support to Iran and Syria happened in 2015-16 but not 1999 when Russia stood on it knees with Russian Dindic at the helm. But don’t worry we’ll be back to replay some of the wars including the Storm Operation. Just be sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8sRkH_bCW8


PS LKR9C was the parol for this comment

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Russia will never help Serbia in anything.....they never helped since ww2......your a small nation that's dying out ,your aging .....your population is shrinking every year......you have 0-1 kid........Russia will take your country and sweep the remaining Serbs to the old folks home........Serbia will be their nation if you sign it over to them soon, better for you because your nation does not make babies at all .........unless you change your birth rate this is going to happen......
(your joking, 9 March 2016 20:32
==================================
First of all Serbia did not exist after WW2 or even after WW1. It was Yugoslavia and that meant that our enemies had a say in what we did. Tito especially ruled like a dictator and he wasn't a Serb.
I can think of worse fates than Russia taking over. If Serbia is going to go down because of declining birth rate we better hand it over to Russia before Albanians swoop in again with Croats and Bosniaks, but I think Albania will disappear before Serbia does even with your incredibly high birth rate.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

@LK, do you have another song to sing?
That has already been explained numerous times. Russia under Yeltsin was lucky to remain unoccupied let alone be in a position to help someone.
This is a different Russia and Putin in is power. It would serve you well to remember that so that you won't make a fool of yourself again.

rote

pre 8 godina

Bob : A strong Serbia could be proud to join NATO where it would find a positive role

What positive role are you talking about if all junior members of NATO simply suck the way they are told? What positive role do you mean for an organization that has never done a single good deed in it’s history?

Bob : wrong path Serbia had gone down in terms of ethnic violence

Serbs just defended Yugoslavia from the separatists brought up by NATO, armed by NATO and sent here by NATO to split this strong state for micro pseudo states that are so easy to manipulate now. Because they all have to suck.

Bob : Russia has a demagogue

Is “demagogue” a new synonymous for the “truth” now? You know that telling the truth is one of the advantages Russia enjoys today. All the rest have to manipulate but always time comes when all their shit goes to the ventilator and it’s the deadly arms Russia is armed with today.


P.S. Not only you but all other Bander Logs here believe that they are smarter than the Serbs and that they know better what is good for the Serbs and that they can influence Serbs. You don't even know how silly and aqward you all look.

Zoran

pre 8 godina

Defender from what? The only time since WWII when Serbia needed to be defended, Russia was nowhere to be found...
(LK, 9 March 2016 18:42)
--
Russia defended Serbia as recently as vetoing the UN resolution attempting to falsely pin genocide on the Serbian nation. Something that the West and UK attempted to do so they can justify their crimes, illegal invasion and occupation of Serbia. Also, covering up the genocide in which they were involved by expelling hundreds of thousands of Serbs from KiM, Croatia and BiH.

We, the Serbian people, stand shoulder to shoulder with Russia. Our politicians, on the other hand, are a bunch of cowards.

Zoran

pre 8 godina

Poor Nikolic, going to talk to Putin about his secrets and problems. I wonder what that may be? That he has been brown nosing NATO and the US only because they twisted his arm? Check -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AdooSjrtxE

We didn't do that while Russia was weak but now that Russia is strong, we have weak leaders ready to sell out! Vucic and Nikolic will not go down in Serbian history very well.

Rocky

pre 8 godina

Yea, my a.. Nikolic!
Why can't Serbian politicians be strait with their people?
If I may!
http://inserbia.info/today/2016/03/trifkovic-serbia-is-now-de-facto-at-natos-disposal/

your joking

pre 8 godina

First of all Serbia did not exist after WW2 or even after WW1. It was Yugoslavia and that meant that our enemies had a say in what we did. Tito especially ruled like a dictator and he wasn't a Serb.
I can think of worse fates than Russia taking over. If Serbia is going to go down because of declining birth rate we better hand it over to Russia before Albanians swoop in again with Croats and Bosniaks, but I think Albania will disappear before Serbia does even with your incredibly high birth rate.
(Peggy, 9 March 2016 22:55) first off I am not Albanian but a Serb......croats are in worse position....their population is shrinking just as fast if not faster....bosniaks are the same not increasing but not shrinking either.....if you think the Albanians are going to disappear faster ,stop drinking....former Yugoslavia is disappearing not the Albanians....the Serbs have to change the birth rate now....if they want a future and have youth other wise just give the country to whoever....same with all of former Yugoslavia.....that's all the big nations are waiting for wake up and grow up.... look at reality.....Russia could care less about Serbs......nobody cares for any of the former Yugoslavia.....but the land they do yes.......useful its central it has a coastal like Montenegro why do you think everyone wants it because they like the people there lol.......no at all....its all strategic.....you should agree and say yes Serbs need more babies and not change the story..

icj1

pre 8 godina

Russia defended Serbia as recently as vetoing the UN resolution attempting to falsely pin genocide on the Serbian nation.
(Zoran, 10 March 2016 09:19)

I'm not aware of any draft UN resolution attempting to pin genocide on the Serbian nation.

So it looks like Russia "defended" Serbia against something that nobody attempted! Nice assistance lol

icj1

pre 8 godina

Russia under Yeltsin was lucky to remain unoccupied let alone be in a position to help someone.
This is a different Russia and Putin in is power.
(Peggy, 9 March 2016 22:58)

Well, Russia under Yeltsin sent Russian soldier to Kosovo, helping Serbs with actions not just words.

But, I agree with you that with Putin in power this is a different Russia. Putin, withdrew Russian soldiers from Kosovo and has helped Serbs' cause in Kosovo with words, not actions.

factman

pre 8 godina

Most of the writings below are ignorant and terribly unsophisticated.

The goal is to make the guy on the East to think you are on his side.... while also doing the same to the guy in the West.

There is no compelling need to join NATO.

By being encircled by NATO you have pretty much guaranteed that you will be very safe.

Be neutral. Much more money in it.

To the dude below that writes that Serbia has already joined NATO?
-- Not. It is equally funny that he quotes a right wing Serb politician (which only confirms this dude's lack of principal).

To the same dude who says it is a requirement of the EU?
-- Not.

Serbia's entire history since Rastko Nemanja (St. Sava) is categorized by being neither East nor West... and being both East and West.

This is the only sane and logical policy for a country in the geographic position of Serbia. It is also the most profitable.

Serbia just needs to continue to "be neither/ be both" at the same time.

Don't go this way.... or that way.

Go neither way/ Go both ways.

Walk the tightrope.

Don't allow them to push you into choosing.... and don't be neutral.

Both sides need you.

Prosperity comes from this.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Serbia's entire history since Rastko Nemanja (St. Sava) is categorized by being neither East nor West... and being both East and West.

This is the only sane and logical policy for a country in the geographic position of Serbia. It is also the most profitable.

Serbia just needs to continue to "be neither/ be both" at the same time.
(factman, 11 March 2016 16:59)

That's a total non-sense and is mathematically impossible. Given the following:

X = Serbia
A = Est
B = West

If X does not belong to A or B, then X cannot belong to the union of A and B

If X belongs to the union of A and B, then X must belong to A or B.

That's basic set theory. Isn't that taught in Serbia?!