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Tuesday, 23.02.2016.

12:14

"Conflict between Turkey and Russia greatest risk"

As a country and region "we are in the eye of a hurricane, politically and geographically between two monumental crises dramatically changing our way of being."

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rote

pre 8 godina

Joni : I’m sure you have Turkish genes!


To be exact Turks have Bulgarian DNA. Because Balkanes were the basis of the Ottoman empire that appeared only after 1453 when Balkan peoples (then called as Bulgars) seized Constantinople. It was then that they called the city Stan Bulgarski or Stanbul. It is stupid to associate the Ottomans and the Turks. Turks as a nation appeared in 1923-1942 period when Turkic people merely made 25-30% of the territory that is now Turkey. Meanwhile they made only 5-10% of the Ottoman empire that was always ruled by the Slavic Sultans. Their children still live in Europe and despite their Muslim names ( Efendi Mustafa Ahmed-9 Pasha ect.) they all enjoy their Russian R1a happlogroup. Moreover Balkans were the craddle of the Ottomans. Their Sultans were born and died in Adrianopol now Erdine. Ecerything has changed in early 19 century when the Oldenburgs came and spoiled everything. They provoced the Greek and the Armenians to rebel and they massacred the Slavic Yanissary and the Slavic-Cherkess Mameluks ... Then they wrote history for every people including the Shqiptars. it was then that you were first called Albanians though Albanians were Russians from the White Horde only - North-West Russia, Buelorussia, Poland, Borussia, Prussia and Pomerania = Поморье. So Turkic and Turkish are as far from one another as Tataria and Tatar gulf.

sj

pre 8 godina

I personally would like to see Russia and Turkey fight. Problem is Russia is almost bankrupt and has no balls.
(Avni, 23 February 2016 22:49)

What a dumb-arsed statement. If there was a war between Russia and Turkey there would be nothing left of Turkey mate.
You think that Russia is afraid? Perhaps Ankara will pick a fight by shooting at Russian aircraft and see what happens to Erodan and the Turkish people.
I find it amazing that people still believe in that Turkish BS about a strong Turkish military. If Turks could win they could they would have attacked the Russians, but they are windbags nothing else. The Turkish military is only good for crowd control.

rote

pre 8 godina

Avni : I personally would like to see Russia and Turkey fight. Problem is Russia is almost bankrupt and has no balls.

*** Russians have a very strong immunity against any war so we seek for peace as long as we can but if it happens you will see no war. It will be beating and Turks are aware of it. So they bark like you from behind a safe fence without showing their nose in Syria.


LK : Erdogan and Putin are very similar. Both want to restore some kind of historical empires, act as dictators, and have limited freedoms in their countries. I would rather both countries elect more modern leaders

*** Countries like Russia and Turkey can’t exist without strong central power. So it’s important that reasonable men are at the helm there. Unfortunately only one of the two enjoys such a leader while the other needs urgent medical treatment. And of course Putin is the most modern and an update leader of a state today while nobody cares what you would like the Russians to do. We were smart enough to grant the world with radio, with TV, with helicopter, with Mendeleev system, with Gagarin, with Stanislavsky, Stalin, ballet, Dostoevsky ect. and so we are smart enough to chose the man we need at the helm today.

Historian

pre 8 godina

Erdogan and Putin are very similar. Both want to restore some kind of historical empires, act as dictators, and have limited freedoms in their countries. I would rather both countries elect more modern leaders and move into the 21st century with the rest of us.
(LK, 23 February 2016 21:31)

To LK,
The citizens, voted them both into power.The citizens in Russia, and Turkey have alot of parties to choose,not like USA,where its a 2 party election. What you prefer, is not what other's prefer.You have an election to vote in your backyard/house!.
Majority of middle East prefer Islamic State to rule in Washington,I don't, but either of us can vote in USA,get my drift/point.

oh silly

pre 8 godina

lk, what are you talking about? dictatorship? there were votes held in russia. in fact very transparent votes. at each polling station was installed 2 live feed video cameras that were (or could have been) openly monitored by the citizens.
but, lets not talk about russia. lets talk about the free non-dictatorships, or what i'm assuming you think that those western nations are. be clear there is no more freedom under western model of governance than in russian model. in both cases the political cast works to stay there, to remain the lords and ladies of the land. they do not act in a representative manner. the don't do as their constituents want, but rather what their benevolent party leader wants. over and over and over again this is the hard cold case of western fake-democracy. the simple fact that those in the west have enjoyed their bowl of poo with a smile does not make it cake. in the west, and east and north and south and every single state that has an elevated cast of politicians there is untold corruption, there is lack of transparency, there is non-stop propaganda to convince the pee-ons that they have a choice, that they have a chance, that they are more that nothing, which is exactly what they are in the minds of those that would pretend to lead us to shangrila.

LK

pre 8 godina

Erdogan and Putin are very similar. Both want to restore some kind of historical empires, act as dictators, and have limited freedoms in their countries. I would rather both countries elect more modern leaders and move into the 21st century with the rest of us.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

What is ankara waiting for?
Ankara is waiting for the ancient Illyrians aka modern albanians to save the day.(gotsefromohrid,

Bring on the Albanian Kurds!Let's have a dance!

Kosovo Albanians are Kurds!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW7nLEBElZU

rote

pre 8 godina

If the Russians seek war … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChbmdTFiOjg

Хотят ли русские войны?
Спросите вы у тишины,
Над ширью пашен и полей,
И у берез, и тополей,
Спросите вы у тех солдат,
Что под березами лежат,
И вам ответят их сыны
Хотят ли русские, хотят ли русские,
Хотят ли русские войны.

Не только за свою страну
Солдаты гибли в ту войну,
А чтобы люди всей земли
Спокойно ночью спать могли.
Спросите тех, кто воевал,
Кто вас на Эльбе обнимал,
Мы этой памяти верны.
Хотят ли русские, хотят ли русские
Хотят ли русские войны?

Да, мы умеем воевать,
Но не хотим, чтобы опять
Солдаты падали в бою
На землю горькую свою.
Спросите вы у матерей,
Спросите у жены моей,
И вы тогда понять должны
Хотят ли русские, хотят ли русские
Хотят ли русские войны.

Поймет и докер, и рыбак,
Поймет рабочий и батрак,
Поймет народ любой страны
Хотят ли русские, хотят ли русские,
Хотят ли русские войны.
Хотят ли русские, хотят ли русские,
Хотят ли русские войны.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChbmdTFiOjg

gotsefromohrid

pre 8 godina

What is ankara waiting for?

Ankara is waiting for the ancient Illyrians aka modern albanians to save the day.Turks admittedly are cowards and since the 24th of november do not dare to wander outside their own house.They're only brave when it comes to bombing and killing kurdish civilians.

sj

pre 8 godina

Conflict between Turkey and Russia???? LOL. What is Ankara waiting for? The elves from Merkwood forest and Gandalf to arrive before starting a conflict?
The Turks are even bigger windbags than the Americans, if that is at all possible. The Turks shot down one Russian aircraft and the Russians shut down all aircraft with in a 20 kilometre zone in Turkey and the towelheads have been mumbling into their tea ever since.
Ankara ran to NATO but got a very cool reception after mouthing off that they will take over Russia in 7 days if Russia started something. NATO members refused to get involved. Even their mentor, the US, went cold.
Erogan will eat what Russia offers on the plate even if its rock and smile while telling all that it’s the best pork he has ever eaten.

sj

pre 8 godina

Conflict between Turkey and Russia???? LOL. What is Ankara waiting for? The elves from Merkwood forest and Gandalf to arrive before starting a conflict?
The Turks are even bigger windbags than the Americans, if that is at all possible. The Turks shot down one Russian aircraft and the Russians shut down all aircraft with in a 20 kilometre zone in Turkey and the towelheads have been mumbling into their tea ever since.
Ankara ran to NATO but got a very cool reception after mouthing off that they will take over Russia in 7 days if Russia started something. NATO members refused to get involved. Even their mentor, the US, went cold.
Erogan will eat what Russia offers on the plate even if its rock and smile while telling all that it’s the best pork he has ever eaten.

gotsefromohrid

pre 8 godina

What is ankara waiting for?

Ankara is waiting for the ancient Illyrians aka modern albanians to save the day.Turks admittedly are cowards and since the 24th of november do not dare to wander outside their own house.They're only brave when it comes to bombing and killing kurdish civilians.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

What is ankara waiting for?
Ankara is waiting for the ancient Illyrians aka modern albanians to save the day.(gotsefromohrid,

Bring on the Albanian Kurds!Let's have a dance!

Kosovo Albanians are Kurds!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW7nLEBElZU

rote

pre 8 godina

If the Russians seek war … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChbmdTFiOjg

Хотят ли русские войны?
Спросите вы у тишины,
Над ширью пашен и полей,
И у берез, и тополей,
Спросите вы у тех солдат,
Что под березами лежат,
И вам ответят их сыны
Хотят ли русские, хотят ли русские,
Хотят ли русские войны.

Не только за свою страну
Солдаты гибли в ту войну,
А чтобы люди всей земли
Спокойно ночью спать могли.
Спросите тех, кто воевал,
Кто вас на Эльбе обнимал,
Мы этой памяти верны.
Хотят ли русские, хотят ли русские
Хотят ли русские войны?

Да, мы умеем воевать,
Но не хотим, чтобы опять
Солдаты падали в бою
На землю горькую свою.
Спросите вы у матерей,
Спросите у жены моей,
И вы тогда понять должны
Хотят ли русские, хотят ли русские
Хотят ли русские войны.

Поймет и докер, и рыбак,
Поймет рабочий и батрак,
Поймет народ любой страны
Хотят ли русские, хотят ли русские,
Хотят ли русские войны.
Хотят ли русские, хотят ли русские,
Хотят ли русские войны.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChbmdTFiOjg

oh silly

pre 8 godina

lk, what are you talking about? dictatorship? there were votes held in russia. in fact very transparent votes. at each polling station was installed 2 live feed video cameras that were (or could have been) openly monitored by the citizens.
but, lets not talk about russia. lets talk about the free non-dictatorships, or what i'm assuming you think that those western nations are. be clear there is no more freedom under western model of governance than in russian model. in both cases the political cast works to stay there, to remain the lords and ladies of the land. they do not act in a representative manner. the don't do as their constituents want, but rather what their benevolent party leader wants. over and over and over again this is the hard cold case of western fake-democracy. the simple fact that those in the west have enjoyed their bowl of poo with a smile does not make it cake. in the west, and east and north and south and every single state that has an elevated cast of politicians there is untold corruption, there is lack of transparency, there is non-stop propaganda to convince the pee-ons that they have a choice, that they have a chance, that they are more that nothing, which is exactly what they are in the minds of those that would pretend to lead us to shangrila.

LK

pre 8 godina

Erdogan and Putin are very similar. Both want to restore some kind of historical empires, act as dictators, and have limited freedoms in their countries. I would rather both countries elect more modern leaders and move into the 21st century with the rest of us.

Historian

pre 8 godina

Erdogan and Putin are very similar. Both want to restore some kind of historical empires, act as dictators, and have limited freedoms in their countries. I would rather both countries elect more modern leaders and move into the 21st century with the rest of us.
(LK, 23 February 2016 21:31)

To LK,
The citizens, voted them both into power.The citizens in Russia, and Turkey have alot of parties to choose,not like USA,where its a 2 party election. What you prefer, is not what other's prefer.You have an election to vote in your backyard/house!.
Majority of middle East prefer Islamic State to rule in Washington,I don't, but either of us can vote in USA,get my drift/point.

rote

pre 8 godina

Avni : I personally would like to see Russia and Turkey fight. Problem is Russia is almost bankrupt and has no balls.

*** Russians have a very strong immunity against any war so we seek for peace as long as we can but if it happens you will see no war. It will be beating and Turks are aware of it. So they bark like you from behind a safe fence without showing their nose in Syria.


LK : Erdogan and Putin are very similar. Both want to restore some kind of historical empires, act as dictators, and have limited freedoms in their countries. I would rather both countries elect more modern leaders

*** Countries like Russia and Turkey can’t exist without strong central power. So it’s important that reasonable men are at the helm there. Unfortunately only one of the two enjoys such a leader while the other needs urgent medical treatment. And of course Putin is the most modern and an update leader of a state today while nobody cares what you would like the Russians to do. We were smart enough to grant the world with radio, with TV, with helicopter, with Mendeleev system, with Gagarin, with Stanislavsky, Stalin, ballet, Dostoevsky ect. and so we are smart enough to chose the man we need at the helm today.

sj

pre 8 godina

I personally would like to see Russia and Turkey fight. Problem is Russia is almost bankrupt and has no balls.
(Avni, 23 February 2016 22:49)

What a dumb-arsed statement. If there was a war between Russia and Turkey there would be nothing left of Turkey mate.
You think that Russia is afraid? Perhaps Ankara will pick a fight by shooting at Russian aircraft and see what happens to Erodan and the Turkish people.
I find it amazing that people still believe in that Turkish BS about a strong Turkish military. If Turks could win they could they would have attacked the Russians, but they are windbags nothing else. The Turkish military is only good for crowd control.

rote

pre 8 godina

Joni : I’m sure you have Turkish genes!


To be exact Turks have Bulgarian DNA. Because Balkanes were the basis of the Ottoman empire that appeared only after 1453 when Balkan peoples (then called as Bulgars) seized Constantinople. It was then that they called the city Stan Bulgarski or Stanbul. It is stupid to associate the Ottomans and the Turks. Turks as a nation appeared in 1923-1942 period when Turkic people merely made 25-30% of the territory that is now Turkey. Meanwhile they made only 5-10% of the Ottoman empire that was always ruled by the Slavic Sultans. Their children still live in Europe and despite their Muslim names ( Efendi Mustafa Ahmed-9 Pasha ect.) they all enjoy their Russian R1a happlogroup. Moreover Balkans were the craddle of the Ottomans. Their Sultans were born and died in Adrianopol now Erdine. Ecerything has changed in early 19 century when the Oldenburgs came and spoiled everything. They provoced the Greek and the Armenians to rebel and they massacred the Slavic Yanissary and the Slavic-Cherkess Mameluks ... Then they wrote history for every people including the Shqiptars. it was then that you were first called Albanians though Albanians were Russians from the White Horde only - North-West Russia, Buelorussia, Poland, Borussia, Prussia and Pomerania = Поморье. So Turkic and Turkish are as far from one another as Tataria and Tatar gulf.

LK

pre 8 godina

Erdogan and Putin are very similar. Both want to restore some kind of historical empires, act as dictators, and have limited freedoms in their countries. I would rather both countries elect more modern leaders and move into the 21st century with the rest of us.

sj

pre 8 godina

Conflict between Turkey and Russia???? LOL. What is Ankara waiting for? The elves from Merkwood forest and Gandalf to arrive before starting a conflict?
The Turks are even bigger windbags than the Americans, if that is at all possible. The Turks shot down one Russian aircraft and the Russians shut down all aircraft with in a 20 kilometre zone in Turkey and the towelheads have been mumbling into their tea ever since.
Ankara ran to NATO but got a very cool reception after mouthing off that they will take over Russia in 7 days if Russia started something. NATO members refused to get involved. Even their mentor, the US, went cold.
Erogan will eat what Russia offers on the plate even if its rock and smile while telling all that it’s the best pork he has ever eaten.

gotsefromohrid

pre 8 godina

What is ankara waiting for?

Ankara is waiting for the ancient Illyrians aka modern albanians to save the day.Turks admittedly are cowards and since the 24th of november do not dare to wander outside their own house.They're only brave when it comes to bombing and killing kurdish civilians.

rote

pre 8 godina

If the Russians seek war … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChbmdTFiOjg

Хотят ли русские войны?
Спросите вы у тишины,
Над ширью пашен и полей,
И у берез, и тополей,
Спросите вы у тех солдат,
Что под березами лежат,
И вам ответят их сыны
Хотят ли русские, хотят ли русские,
Хотят ли русские войны.

Не только за свою страну
Солдаты гибли в ту войну,
А чтобы люди всей земли
Спокойно ночью спать могли.
Спросите тех, кто воевал,
Кто вас на Эльбе обнимал,
Мы этой памяти верны.
Хотят ли русские, хотят ли русские
Хотят ли русские войны?

Да, мы умеем воевать,
Но не хотим, чтобы опять
Солдаты падали в бою
На землю горькую свою.
Спросите вы у матерей,
Спросите у жены моей,
И вы тогда понять должны
Хотят ли русские, хотят ли русские
Хотят ли русские войны.

Поймет и докер, и рыбак,
Поймет рабочий и батрак,
Поймет народ любой страны
Хотят ли русские, хотят ли русские,
Хотят ли русские войны.
Хотят ли русские, хотят ли русские,
Хотят ли русские войны.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChbmdTFiOjg

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

What is ankara waiting for?
Ankara is waiting for the ancient Illyrians aka modern albanians to save the day.(gotsefromohrid,

Bring on the Albanian Kurds!Let's have a dance!

Kosovo Albanians are Kurds!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW7nLEBElZU

oh silly

pre 8 godina

lk, what are you talking about? dictatorship? there were votes held in russia. in fact very transparent votes. at each polling station was installed 2 live feed video cameras that were (or could have been) openly monitored by the citizens.
but, lets not talk about russia. lets talk about the free non-dictatorships, or what i'm assuming you think that those western nations are. be clear there is no more freedom under western model of governance than in russian model. in both cases the political cast works to stay there, to remain the lords and ladies of the land. they do not act in a representative manner. the don't do as their constituents want, but rather what their benevolent party leader wants. over and over and over again this is the hard cold case of western fake-democracy. the simple fact that those in the west have enjoyed their bowl of poo with a smile does not make it cake. in the west, and east and north and south and every single state that has an elevated cast of politicians there is untold corruption, there is lack of transparency, there is non-stop propaganda to convince the pee-ons that they have a choice, that they have a chance, that they are more that nothing, which is exactly what they are in the minds of those that would pretend to lead us to shangrila.

sj

pre 8 godina

I personally would like to see Russia and Turkey fight. Problem is Russia is almost bankrupt and has no balls.
(Avni, 23 February 2016 22:49)

What a dumb-arsed statement. If there was a war between Russia and Turkey there would be nothing left of Turkey mate.
You think that Russia is afraid? Perhaps Ankara will pick a fight by shooting at Russian aircraft and see what happens to Erodan and the Turkish people.
I find it amazing that people still believe in that Turkish BS about a strong Turkish military. If Turks could win they could they would have attacked the Russians, but they are windbags nothing else. The Turkish military is only good for crowd control.

Historian

pre 8 godina

Erdogan and Putin are very similar. Both want to restore some kind of historical empires, act as dictators, and have limited freedoms in their countries. I would rather both countries elect more modern leaders and move into the 21st century with the rest of us.
(LK, 23 February 2016 21:31)

To LK,
The citizens, voted them both into power.The citizens in Russia, and Turkey have alot of parties to choose,not like USA,where its a 2 party election. What you prefer, is not what other's prefer.You have an election to vote in your backyard/house!.
Majority of middle East prefer Islamic State to rule in Washington,I don't, but either of us can vote in USA,get my drift/point.

rote

pre 8 godina

Avni : I personally would like to see Russia and Turkey fight. Problem is Russia is almost bankrupt and has no balls.

*** Russians have a very strong immunity against any war so we seek for peace as long as we can but if it happens you will see no war. It will be beating and Turks are aware of it. So they bark like you from behind a safe fence without showing their nose in Syria.


LK : Erdogan and Putin are very similar. Both want to restore some kind of historical empires, act as dictators, and have limited freedoms in their countries. I would rather both countries elect more modern leaders

*** Countries like Russia and Turkey can’t exist without strong central power. So it’s important that reasonable men are at the helm there. Unfortunately only one of the two enjoys such a leader while the other needs urgent medical treatment. And of course Putin is the most modern and an update leader of a state today while nobody cares what you would like the Russians to do. We were smart enough to grant the world with radio, with TV, with helicopter, with Mendeleev system, with Gagarin, with Stanislavsky, Stalin, ballet, Dostoevsky ect. and so we are smart enough to chose the man we need at the helm today.

rote

pre 8 godina

Joni : I’m sure you have Turkish genes!


To be exact Turks have Bulgarian DNA. Because Balkanes were the basis of the Ottoman empire that appeared only after 1453 when Balkan peoples (then called as Bulgars) seized Constantinople. It was then that they called the city Stan Bulgarski or Stanbul. It is stupid to associate the Ottomans and the Turks. Turks as a nation appeared in 1923-1942 period when Turkic people merely made 25-30% of the territory that is now Turkey. Meanwhile they made only 5-10% of the Ottoman empire that was always ruled by the Slavic Sultans. Their children still live in Europe and despite their Muslim names ( Efendi Mustafa Ahmed-9 Pasha ect.) they all enjoy their Russian R1a happlogroup. Moreover Balkans were the craddle of the Ottomans. Their Sultans were born and died in Adrianopol now Erdine. Ecerything has changed in early 19 century when the Oldenburgs came and spoiled everything. They provoced the Greek and the Armenians to rebel and they massacred the Slavic Yanissary and the Slavic-Cherkess Mameluks ... Then they wrote history for every people including the Shqiptars. it was then that you were first called Albanians though Albanians were Russians from the White Horde only - North-West Russia, Buelorussia, Poland, Borussia, Prussia and Pomerania = Поморье. So Turkic and Turkish are as far from one another as Tataria and Tatar gulf.