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Ambassador: U.S. hopes Serbia will recognize Kosovo

U.S. Ambassador in Pristina Greg Delawie has said that his country "hopes that Serbia will recognize Kosovo."

Izvor: Tanjug

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Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Link for the below comment documenting 31 articles from major western new sources:

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(factman, 3 February 2016 04:24)

Good Post, you can see how the funds from the Yugoslav development fund was being abused by Kosovo Albanians and forced deportation of Serbians from the autonomous province particularly after Tito's death. It is the exactly the same situation now, this time EU is dumping money into the black hole of KLA corruption.

sj

pre 8 godina

(Danilo, 2 February 2016 19:11)

I believe that 8800 bodies were found, but they were not from Srebrenica. It became obvious in the early days that something big had to occur to force the Serbs to the negotiating table.
Robert Baer, a former CIA officer:
When asked about Srebrenica, Baer said that from 1992 he had been in Bosnia again. This time, he said, they trained military units representing Bosnia, the new state which only just had declared its independence. Srebrenica is an exaggerated story, he said, many people have been manipulated by it. He said the numbers of people killed were part of political marketing.
This is one of your allies mate not a Serb.
Now who is going to be accountable for murdering those 19 in Afghanistan?

sj

pre 8 godina

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 2 February 2016 15:10)

Our resident Albanian Idiot has used its usual form of learned response – cut and past again, eh. Not enough grey cells for original comment, LOL. Keep it up we can never have enough AI stupidity.

factman

pre 8 godina

Milosevic is dead.

Here are 31 articles from major western newspapers which document the behaviors in Kosovo which eventually led to war - before Milosevic ever came to power.

Very easy to blame Milosevic -- The facts say otherwise.

factman

pre 8 godina

Link for the below comment documenting 31 articles from major western new sources:

http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/benworks/1980news.html

Danilo

pre 8 godina

(sj, 2 February 2016 09:54)

Isn't that awfully cute? 8800 bodies were found buried in various mass graves connected to the Srebrenica massacre.

Your standards for examining this proof? Preconditions are that they solve a supposed crime in Afghanistan, them "knock on your door"

You're a funny guy, man :)

icj1

pre 8 godina

Is this the best you can do? This is the writing style of a 6 year old who tries to turn a situation against an opponent using his/her words.
(sj, 2 February 2016 07:52)

Well, I can't ignore the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj... that would be a sacrilege! And, btw, I'm sure he/she is more than 6 years old which is why I refer to his/her teachings :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 8 godina

I do not trust any humanitarian group because they are funded by the west.
(sj, 2 February 2016 09:54)

That is impossible because according to the CE of B92 forums sj, the West has collapsed and run out of cash!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sj

pre 8 godina

(Gjon Marku, 1 February 2016 14:44)
I do not trust any humanitarian group because they are funded by the west.
Because the Serbs do not give in easily, the west is obsessed with proving to the world they were right to intervene in Kosovo because of a humanitarian crises, but when it came to real one, such as Rhwanda, they turned a blind eye. The Serbs are not stupid people unlike the Americans and they cannot bring them to yield so we get these very interesting tales such as Srebrenica and then these documentaries. But alas it’s all to no avail because we do not give a cracker about them.
When they bring to trial and imprison the people involved in a recent bombing of the Afghan hospital where 19 Doctors without Borders employees were killed. When they bring to trial and imprison the people who knowingly killed in the street of Bagdad in July 2007 from a helicopter then come back knocking on my door about justice.

sj

pre 8 godina

Woow! I would have never expected you to label as "nonsense" the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj!!!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 1 February 2016 16:08)

Is this the best you can do? This is the writing style of a 6 year old who tries to turn a situation against an opponent using his/her words.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Yes, 110 out of 193 UN member states recognized Kosovo. But talking about the trend: With 1 recognition in 2015, how long will it take until the disputed territory of Kosovo ([link]) will become a country like 193 others on the world?
(Questioner, 1 February 2016 10:48)

Well, Kosovo is already a country for those 110 so not sure what your question means :)

icj1

pre 8 godina

Well, there is nothing for me to get - I just quoted the CE of B92 forums sj. It is unacceptable however for you to call "dumb" the brilliant analysis of the CE of B92 forums sj who has dedicated his/her life to providing members of these forums with the best economic and financial analysis ever.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 31 January 2016 01:40)

This what happens when the Albanian Idiot cannot put forth an opposing view and comes out with this nonsense
(sj, 1 February 2016 13:22)

Woow! I would have never expected you to label as "nonsense" the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj!!!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 8 godina

Well, there is nothing for me to get - I just quoted the CE of B92 forums sj. It is unacceptable however for you to call "dumb" the brilliant analysis of the CE of B92 forums sj who has dedicated his/her life to providing members of these forums with the best economic and financial analysis ever.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 31 January 2016 01:40)

This what happens when the Albanian Idiot cannot put forth an opposing view and comes out with this nonsense
(sj, 1 February 2016 13:22)

Woow! I would have never expected you to label as "nonsense" the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj!!!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 8 godina

Point 10 in the summary. No matter how many times I read it, the word independence is not there.
(IvanPN, 1 February 2016 11:58)

Exactly, there is nothing there that forbids the independence so independence is in accordance with UNSCR 1244. Thanks for providing the evidence that proves my point :)

Jovan

pre 8 godina

The "one and only global superpower" ( as some rather simple albanian stated a few years ago ) hopes...

Well, if the mighty empire hopes, my dear albanian friends, you should think it over again, I guess.

Otherwise you will be the ones swimming in the adriatic in the future...

Gjon Marku

pre 8 godina

Then show me proof that those people on your list are guilty and I don’t mean from Interpol or the US proof.
I liked Milosevic and do not blame him for anything so don’t hold your breath waiting for the apology or any reparations mate.
(sj, 1 February 2016 12:49

Here is the proof. Dosije „Operacija Reka“ by Fond za humanitarno pravo in Beograd. http://www.hlc-rdc.org/?p=30521

There is even a documentary directed by Ognjen Glavonić coming out. It will be displayed at the Berlinale 2016. https://www.facebook.com/ognjen.glavonic/posts/10153834118438638

If you don`t believe Interpol, even though you thought its a good idea to name interpol concerning Thaci but then all of a sudden you dont like interpol anymore because you shot your self in the foos, then here is a source from Beograd.

Actually I`m happy you said that you liked Milosevic because now I know that your own people hate you probably just as much as I do.

Well I linked plenty of proof and I`m not talking about alligations but a report with hundreds of victims, testimonies from Kosovo and Serbia and a Massgrave in Batajnica Military Base near Beograd. Now where is the proof of your claims? Oh yea, you don`t have any because you are just a little liar.

sj

pre 8 godina

Well, there is nothing for me to get - I just quoted the CE of B92 forums sj. It is unacceptable however for you to call "dumb" the brilliant analysis of the CE of B92 forums sj who has dedicated his/her life to providing members of these forums with the best economic and financial analysis ever.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 31 January 2016 01:40)

This what happens when the Albanian Idiot cannot put forth an opposing view and comes out with this nonsense, but it does love its P.S. LOL.
This only indicates its debating skills are challenged, to say the least, and uses the same lines over and over again thinking its smart when it only makes it look linguistically inept.

sj

pre 8 godina

(Gjon Marku, 1 February 2016 10:43)

I hate to break the news to you but Thaci was a well-known criminal that was involved in drug and human trafficking and other criminal activities. I also know that the west has been diligent in trying to hide Thaci’s background because it would not be a good look for the western world to see what the US has appointed as PM of Kosovo.
Thaci was involved in killing the 40 Albanian villagers which the CIA field officer, William Walker, confirmed it was done by the Serbs.
The list you provide is all crap and I am surprised that I am not on it. The Interpol of pre 1990 and Interpol of today are two different things. Interpol is no longer looked as an impartial or trusted organisation by a large number of countries. You only had to see in cases where Belgrade’s arrest warrants for 2 Albanians were ignored by Interpol because they were protected by democracy and freedom.
You want proof? Then show me proof that those people on your list are guilty and I don’t mean from Interpol or the US proof.
I liked Milosevic and do not blame him for anything so don’t hold your breath waiting for the apology or any reparations mate.

IvanPN

pre 8 godina

@icj1..your memory must be slipping " they declared independence in accordance in with UNSCR 1244"

Due to the false statement, they actually DIS-honour it.

Point 10 in the summary. No matter how many times I read it, the word independence is not there.
-status, three times.
-compliance of the disputing parties, once for each
-substantial autonomy, once for each.

BTW, point 8, the UN failed. Displaced citizens do not want to return to their homes due to fear from Kalbs.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

Well, if it has failed, it is not because of UNSCR 1244's fault. You can't force people to return to an area which has a GDP per capita 30% lower than where they live now.
(icj1, 31 January 2016 17:34)

And the few dozens mostly elderly persons that really returned to their homes and places they were living their whole live, you can intimidate with hand grenades thrown at their houses, stones https://xs4.b92.net/w2/index.php?lang=english&whereto=comments&to_class=%27News_New%27&news_dd=01&news_mm=02&news_yyyy=2016&page=1&action=all_unreviewedthrown through the windows and on their cars, and some more little 'incidents', all done by 'playing kids' of course (quoting the KPS spokesperson)? This you call UNIMPEDED return? Funny guy, you.

Questioner

pre 8 godina

Absolutely; the trend is obvious... Kosovo went from being recognized by 0 countries to 110+ today.
(icj1, 31 January 2016 01:33)

Yes, 110 out of 193 UN member states recognized Kosovo. But talking about the trend: With 1 recognition in 2015, how long will it take until the disputed territory of Kosovo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territorial_disputes#Disputes_between_UN-recognized_states_and_others) will become a country like 193 others on the world? Or to see it in a broader range, look at the trend from 2011 to 2015 (13, 12, 8, 5 and 1 recognitions), and draw your conclusions

Gjon Marku

pre 8 godina

(sj, 1 February 2016 09:36)

First of all, I dont like Thaci either but he was never wanted by Interpol unlike 17 Pending red notice from Interpol for Serbs right now!http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/interpol-seeks-arrest-of-17-yugoslav-fighters-for-kosovo-crimes

Momir Stojanovic,ruling party MP
Nikola Micunovic, the former head of the Djakovica Military Department
Momcilo Stijovic, a former police officer
Momcilo, Milutin and Miladin Novakovic, also former police officers
Muharem Ibraj, a former police commander
Sreten Camovic, a former state security officer
Dimitrije Rasovic, a former police inspector

and a series of other Serb fighters: father and son Dragan and Aleksandar Pekovic, Zivko Vuksanovic, Miras Gegovic, Predrag Stojanovic, Miso Popovic, Lazar Draskovic and Zoran Mirkovic

Second, most of our politician? Really? Name one and show proof.

I know you all say it was Milosevic`s fault and you claim stuff without any sources, but truth is, he had your full support. Milosevic is your identity and will remain so until an official apology and reparations. Just like Nazi Germany.

sj

pre 8 godina

Proves that massmurderers, warcriminals and rapist cant run a country.
(Gjon Marku, 31 January 2016 07:56)


Mustapha you’re going to pull it right off if you keep playing with yourself.

So now that your Albos are in charge it’s the Serbs fault that at first opportunity busloads of your brethren could not want to leave Albo heaven called Kosova.
Last time, I looked most of your so called politicians were at one time wanted as terrorist or criminals. Look at Thaci, until his conversion to democracy and human rights loving he was on Interpols most wanted list.

EU prisons are filled with Albanians. Ask the British authorities what they think of peace-loving Albanians, LOL.

this

pre 8 godina

I think it's high time that in the name of all Slavs, Serbs claim back their ancient SLAVIC lands in Austria taken by the Swabians separating Slavs into North and South! So many Slavs living in Austria forcefully for years speaking that annoying and ugly German language when they should be speaking their beautiful Slavic language on their ancient Slavic land!

icj1

pre 8 godina

'icj1' actually the independence of Kosovo was not envisioned by the document which was signed under duress UNSCR 1244, its roots are more like belonging to the Helsinki or Ahtisaari. Under the guise of the Kosovo status process.
(IvanPN, 31 January 2016 02:10)

Of course. And I did not say anywhere that UNSCR 1244 envisions any particular status for Kosovo. Not sure why you quoted me :)
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But point 8 in summary of 1244, I'm sure you will agree is the gravest of all where the resolution failed
" require the UN to assure the safe and UNIMPEDED return of all refugees and displaced persons to their homes in Kosovo and to ensure conditions for a peaceful and a normal life for ALL inhabitants of the province"
(IvanPN, 31 January 2016 02:10)

Well, if it has failed, it is not because of UNSCR 1244's fault. You can't force people to return to an area which has a GDP per capita 30% lower than where they live now.

ivan

pre 8 godina

Serbia should never recognize Kosovo. Just sit back and wait for the right opportunity to retake what is rightfully hers. When the time is ripe, the last thing that Serbia would want is to be intertwined in legalities. This way, they never recognized the illegal amputation of their territory, they just want to claim what belongs to them. It will just require some tactical political manoeuvering until the inevitable.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To Gjon Marku,
A communist Milosevic ran the country ,and didn't even give no properties back to the Serb Royalty family. He (Milosevic), and his cronies where against the Serbian Royalty family!. So stop calling the Commo's Chetniks!.I don't think you would be happy calling ,your KLA , Ballista or Balli Kombetar the Nazi's!.
Don't confuse Communist, with Royalty Chetnik's! Zoran is right,if their your Master (owner)"Brussels ", allows your Shqiptars holiday visas,then the Serb's would be the majority in KiM,your Shqiptar population, would be running for EU and Switzerland.
P's like you left Pristina,and didn't go back to leave in NATO Paradise again.When you go back to leave in Pristina permanently, then comment!

Gjon Marku

pre 8 godina

when Serbia held Kosovo there was 1% of refugees from Kosova in Europe, when they got Independence there are 30% refugees from Kosova in Europe second highest after Syria. Proves that mafia can't run a country
(Zoran P.. Sydney, 30 January 2016 23:15)

Wrong! When Kosovo was autonomous, there was 1% refugees. Then Serbia got in charge and fucked up whole Yugoslavia!!. Literally everyone ran from you. Even Montenegro (Serbs) said those chetniks are crazy we have to distance as far as possible.

Proves that massmurderers, warcriminals and rapist cant run a country.

delon

pre 8 godina

@ peggy
https://books.google.gr/books?id=XFtbEd1ojBsC&pg=RA1-PA90&dq=macedonian+hellenic+language+%22paleo+balkan%22&hl=el&sa=X&ei=x7srUqHdOITZsgbInIGwCQ#v=onepage&q=macedonian%20hellenic%20language%20%22paleo%20balkan%22&f=false

IvanPN

pre 8 godina

'cry me a river' its surprising but when you look hard enough its the Albanians who called themselves shqiptars ( circa 17th cen.) so I'm not sure why you jumped into that one.
If you meant to say illyrians, then try your luck? I'll wait for that one too.

'icj1' actually the independence of Kosovo was not envisioned by the document which was signed under duress UNSCR 1244, its roots are more like belonging to the Helsinki or Ahtisaari. Under the guise of the Kosovo status process.

But point 8 in summary of 1244, I'm sure you will agree is the gravest of all where the resolution failed
" require the UN to assure the safe and UNIMPEDED return of all refugees and displaced persons to their homes in Kosovo and to ensure conditions for a peaceful and a normal life for ALL inhabitants of the province"

My personal opinion, the situation has gone too far to be peacefully resolved. The ZSO will not be enough. It is highly likely that Albania and Kosovo will unite, and then they will begin to claim other parts of Serbia. I still can't work out if part of Macedonia and Montenegro go before the great war breaks out. When it gets to this point the force which is providing all the legal framework will be apparent. Is it the Austrians who hate us like hitzer the Jews, or is it that super power with inferiority issues.
Or maybe its the maid with the broom in the closet. Who ever it is, we the people are the ones who will have to once again do the dirtier work :(

icj1

pre 8 godina

The first attempts were to militarily force recognition.

After that came a period of veiled threats

This was followed by a period where trickery was used.

Then followed a period of coercion and pressure.

Next came a period where they decided to "wait"

Now comes a period of hope

Anyone notice a trend here?
(factman, 30 January 2016 02:24)

Absolutely; the trend is obvious... Kosovo went from being recognized by 0 countries to 110+ today.

icj1

pre 8 godina

when Serbia held Kosovo there was 1% of refugees from Kosova in Europe, when they got Independence there are 30% refugees from Kosova in Europe second highest after Syria. Proves that mafia can't run a country
(Zoran P.. Sydney, 30 January 2016 23:15)

when Turkey held Serbia you could not find any emigrants from Serbia in the US, when they got Independence there are thousands of emigrants from Serbia in the US. Proves that mafia can't run a country :)

icj1

pre 8 godina

Shqiptars give him extra racket money and he speak's in their interest.
(sasa.p, 29 January 2016 17:53)

The above is not correct because according to the CE of B92 forums sj the Shqiptars are broke! You need to pay more attention to his/her teachings.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 30 January 2016 02:24)

You are Dumb, country's can be broke ,with normal 90% population suffering in poverty, while the rest top level have money and live like king's. Do you get it now.!!
P's it doesn't Suit you to comment like you are clever, or cute comments!.
(sasa.p, 30 January 2016 18:30)

Well, there is nothing for me to get - I just quoted the CE of B92 forums sj. It is unacceptable however for you to call "dumb" the brilliant analysis of the CE of B92 forums sj who has dedicated his/her life to providing members of these forums with the best economic and financial analysis ever.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Zoran P.. Sydney

pre 8 godina

when Serbia held Kosovo there was 1% of refugees from Kosova in Europe, when they got Independence there are 30% refugees from Kosova in Europe second highest after Syria. Proves that mafia can't run a country

Danilo

pre 8 godina

You recognize Puerto Rico first and than we will talk, oh wait, yankee doodles wouldn't give up part 'of their sovereign land'.
(makeyouadeal, 30 January 2016 13:50)

Why do some people always try to make stupid comparisons with the USA?

Puerto Rico isn't seeking independence - in 2012, they had a referendum where 65% voted to become a US state and 4% voted for independence. Mexicans in Texas aren't seeking independence. Mexico doesn't want California back. None of these invented red hearings have anything to do with Kosovo

icj1

pre 8 godina

If you (Shqiptars) can't honour the agreement you sign in 1999 ,resolution 1244.
(sasa.p, 30 January 2016 10:41)

First of all, UNSCR 1244 is mandatory for everybody, whether they like it or not. It's not a matter of signature.

Second, Kosovo declared independence in accordance with UNSCR 1244, so they did honor it

So, I have no idea what you are talking about, dear!
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Why should any other country ,honour any contract's they sign!.
(sasa.p, 30 January 2016 10:41)

Note that you are comparing Kosovo to the rest of the countries which means that you are considering Kosovo to be a... country :)

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To icj1,
Don't you get it!,
He gets paid from the RACKET money(drug,arms(guns,weapons),Prostitutions etc) from the Mafia leaders and its not Billion's!!.
Surely they have an extra 300k to give him,to get him to sing like a canary ,how great is Pristina.
You are Dumb, country's can be broke ,with normal 90% population suffering in poverty, while the rest top level have money and live like king's. Do you get it now.!!
P's it doesn't Suit you to comment like you are clever, or cute comments!.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To Demi and cry me a River,
Give me a church,temple etc to prove that you where there 3000 years!
Give me any objects ot buildings older than 1200 years ,that you where there longer than Serbia.You can't ,because Shqiptars come from ADANA State and around Turkey.
I don't need a look around,because ,I been around the Balkans and see NO object or existence from Shqiptars longer then 150 years!!!.And that is a fact!.

the truth

pre 8 godina

If you (Shqiptars) can't honour the agreement you sign in 1999 ,resolution 1244.Why should any other country ,honour any contract's they sign!.
As they say,take a leaf out of you in contracts, or always Tie a Shqiptar to a leg of a table when a hand is shaken on an agreement!!.
(sasa.p, 30 January 2016 10:41) # Comment link

With you Serbs is: damn if you do it, damn if you don't. When UNMIK was governing Kosova , you did not recognize UNMIK documents(ID and passport), meaning you did not recognize UNMIK. Once the Independence was declared and Kosova had its own ID and passport, you guys said that you recognize only UNMIK documents. Try to figure your own self out what you want !?

Donkey Hoxha

pre 8 godina

Albanians and Greece people are the only people in modern Balkan who can say that the land we live on is rightfuly ours.
(Demi, 29 January 2016 22:37)

And isn't it interesting how native Greeks have been part of the region's history for 3,000 years while Albanians have been nothing but a footnote? Isn't it also interesting how all these Slavic "invaders" all achieved great medieval civilizations at least once? Bulgaria had two empires, Serbia had a kingdom and an empire, heck even Bosnia had a kingdom once too! Even the Turks who were clear invaders had an empire! What major historical contributions have Albanians ever produced? You guys were the last to form a country, and you spent years under communism as repressive and as totalitarian as North Korea.

cry me a river

pre 8 godina

To Demi,
Prove it,that Shqiptars in the Balkans have been their more then 300 year's,by either a religious(church,etc) or culture object's.
(sasa.p

Sasa, there is proof that Shqiptars have been in the Balkans not only 300 years but for at least 3,000. If it is of interest then you can find it if you look hard enough.

Brian

pre 8 godina

Serbia doesn't just recognize Kosovo! Vucic must schedule a referendum whereby he asks Serbs to vote to remove Kosovo claim from serbias constitution and then there can be formal recogntion. There's already informal recognition because 63% of Serbia according to ipsos polling says Kosovo is independent so that's why Serbia is still a member of the olympics and plan to compete against the sovereign and independent republic of kosovo in rio. Its why dejan pavicevic is serbia ambassador to Kosovo and why Serbs train to be border guards and customs agents on Kosovo Serbia international style border. When Kosovo Serbs vote on roeunlic of Kosovo ballots they also recognize Kosovo.

rote

pre 8 godina

Paul : The US bought Alaska from Imperial Russia which the Czar sold to pay off gambling debts.

I’ve studied the issue well enough and still I have no answer why exactly it was formally sold. So how can you insist on something you don’t know. What if I tell you that the millions of the Indians killed in America were Russians. What if I tell you that the US could not appear and win all those internal and external wars on the continent without Russia’s direct involvement ? What if I tell you that the US FED belongs to Russia (88,2%) and China (11,2%) ? ect.ect.

John Sheldon

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is part of Serbia, doesn't matter of name of Empire support terrorist from Kosovo! Yesterday it was Turkey, today-USA, but we will stay on OUR OWN LAND ! We will never recognize results of ethnic leansing made by USA and kosovo terrorists !

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To Demi,
Prove it,that Shqiptars in the Balkans have been their more then 300 year's,by either a religious(church,etc) or culture object's.
To Theodor Muzaka,
I thought the Russian's can take note from you Shqiptars ,and break the agreement they signed in the Late 1800's, like you trying to break resolution 1244 . If you (Shqiptars) can't honour the agreement you sign in 1999 ,resolution 1244.Why should any other country ,honour any contract's they sign!.
As they say,take a leaf out of you in contracts, or always Tie a Shqiptar to a leg of a table when a hand is shaken on an agreement!!.

IvanPN

pre 8 godina

'high Demi' (sorry but are you high?, if not then just hi)

I deny your opinion, as do many other people that can type and read. Could you please type into google 'timeline of Albanian history' and in another tab 'timeline of Serbian history'.
For those who can't be bothered,
1190 the principality of Arber was created
1200 local Albanian noble families began to emerge.
(10 years to become noble? ;(.

620 a first wave of Serbs migrated to Serbia,
780 viseslav of Serbia, the first Serbia ruler known by name.


Demi----FAIL

Serbs took Kosovo territory from the Greeks,historically.

600 years my ancestors put up with Islam, and still they didn't bow.
Yet apparently there was a mass bowing (what is the bowing for BTW) in Albania in 1700.

Velika Albania, sounds more like velika bullsh*t.

BTW, when the US turns from being passive aggressive to just aggressive, well,like we say in OZ, its all down hill from here. By 2020, the territory re occupied by Serb majority in KiM will look like a big wedge pointing south, the political flanks will be ready

Knock knock, hello Pristina:)

boom

pre 8 godina

We have been so vociferous in this forum treating albanians as being all criminals. Maybe it is time we cleaned in front of our door first.
Interpol is out with their most wanted list and out of 45 most wanted criminals, seven are serbs, one from kosovo and none from albania. That is a huge number given our population.
Time to take care of our business instead and improving our economy, albanians are progressing faster.
https://eumostwanted.eu/fr

kosovofieldsserbian4ever

pre 8 godina

"Albanians and Greece people are the only people in modern Balkan who can say that the land we live on is rightfuly ours."

LOL. Only Neanderthals can say that, NOT you.

factman

pre 8 godina

The first attempts were to militarily force recognition.

After that came a period of veiled threats

This was followed by a period where trickery was used.

Then followed a period of coercion and pressure.

Next came a period where they decided to "wait"

Now comes a period of hope

Anyone notice a trend here?

icj1

pre 8 godina

Demi said:

Albanians are the native people of the Balkans and Kosova, western Macedonia, southern Montenegro and northern Greece are all Albanian land where Albanians are an majority.
===…==

Prove it.
(Peggy, 29 January 2016 23:12)

Don't worry, dear! Our dear friend Demi is going to fail as miserably as the Serbs in that endeavor :)

observer1

pre 8 godina

I just wanted to give a shout out to DEMI. Demi - you have hit the nail in the head. Albanians are and will always be native to the Balkans and have proved throughout history that they would rather stay and fight than be kicked out.

I would say that what has happened in Kosovo is another manifestation of just that. Personally, I think that the ever lasting Albanian majority in Kosovo is an extremely vexing fact for the Serbs and they just don't know how to deal with it. Hence, the Serb hysteria in postings online such as in B92. I hope for the sake of Serbians that they recognize Kosovo soon!

icj1

pre 8 godina

Shqiptars give him extra racket money and he speak's in their interest.
(sasa.p, 29 January 2016 17:53)

The above is not correct because according to the CE of B92 forums sj the Shqiptars are broke! You need to pay more attention to his/her teachings.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"Why is this court necessary? I have been here (Pristina) since August of last year and so far I have seen several examples of what people do here with impunity. It seems that some people convicted of war crimes come and go to prison as they wish, that they go to Sweden and other countries when they wish," he remarked.

Nice to read those words from an US ambassador. That happens when you have a mafia state where former war criminals and mafia bosses play politicians.

Questioner

pre 8 godina

And I hope Kosovo will one day get decent politicians which are not either mafia bosses, war criminals or violent nationalist hooligans like has been the last 15-20 years. today a So everyone might express his hope, and maybe, in 1-2 generations, it will become reality?

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Demi said:

Albanians are the native people of the Balkans and Kosova, western Macedonia, southern Montenegro and northern Greece are all Albanian land where Albanians are an majority.
=======================

Prove it.

Paul

pre 8 godina

The US has never stolen any land from anyone, unless you want to count the colonial powers against which it declared a revolution and from which it took the lands they stole from the native Americans.

The offense in history that the US has against the natives is in broken treaties. But the natives were already doomed by the colonial powers long before the US was born, especially in South and Central America.

The US bought Alaska from Imperial Russia which the Czar sold to pay off gambling debts. If you want to find a villain, find out who collected the debts.

Demi

pre 8 godina

(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 29 January 2016 18:11)



Hey mr! You talk about US taking land from native americans... But where did you and your fellow serb people came fr.o.m. 700 years ago??? So nobody livet in Kosova before you slavic invaded here?

Albanians are the native people of the Balkans and Kosova, western Macedonia, southern Montenegro and northern Greece are all Albanian land where Albanians are an majority. We love our land an that is the reason why we are an majority despite slavic barbaric invaders. You build churches everywhere to justify your theft of other peoples land and on the other hand you try to murder the native people of that land with blessing of the same churches. barbaric slavic savages!


Albanians and Greece people are the only people in modern Balkan who can say that the land we live on is rightfuly ours. Serbs,Bosnian,Croat and "macedonian" people are all slavic invaders to the land they live on today. If tomorrow somthing bad happend you all have a place to go to but Greeks and Albanians have nowhere else to go! That is why serbs left Kosova and Albanians did not despite serb supremacy. We Love the land more than you do!

Albanians have allways lived in Kosova and will allways do. Just because the ottomans were here for 500 diden't make the land turkish. And that is why the land will never be serbian despite 700 years of occupation and million church built. Reamember that and where you came from!

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

...P's give Alaska back to the original owners (Russian's).
(sasa.p, 29 January 2016 17:53)...

The original owners sold Alaska to Americans for 7.2 million $.
Secondly I don't think that people of Alaska want to join Russia.

Check the history books don't read only chetnik propaganda.

Thirdly,
US ambassador speaks for USA officially, the same stance had USA ambassador in Belgrade Mr Kirby and the same will have the new USA ambassador that will come next month.

Tony (a Brit in Berlin)

pre 8 godina

To Rocky the internet troll: I placed the word ambassador in quotation marks because Kosovo is not universally recognized as an independent country. And for your information it never will.

Farmer

pre 8 godina

I was away from my computer and out feeding the animals when I heard this loud wailing coming from the direction of Serbia. It frightened the animals. Could sj, Ari Gold, rote and the other chetniks please keep the noise down, the Ambassador has a right to express America's demands. Everyone else knows Kosova is independent and will soon be a member of the UN and EU.

Mick Rooney

pre 8 godina

Greg, there is more hope in Bob Hope of that happening. Honestly, in general, i would reccommend worrying about FYR Macedonia, and Kosovo. It seems that the spoilt children you placed in power are going to throw a tantrum.

In 1878 the KAlbanian extremists did not hesitate to kill the Turkish administrator for failing to deliver independence. Therefore, EULEX, US beware of rumbling antagonisms by the men watching Haradinaj and Kurti!

History is going to repeat...

Ziggy

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is named after the blackbird in Serbian not in Gheg,or Tosk (Albanian) dialects for those who are educationally challenged. This is the deliberate stealing of Serbian territory by NATO facist states solely to keep the Albanian population from leaving for a better life in Western Europe. It has failed it has turned Kosovo into a mafia fiefdom and young Albanians are leaving in their droves by obtaining Serbian travel documents to aid travel and to spuriously apply for asylum in Germany. Tell me who has got rich in Kosovo province, yes the KLA hieracy and Thaci and his chums. Kosovo is a de-facto part of Albania in all but name and the Americans should hang their heads in shame, they are the great Satan indeed.88

Blind Profet

pre 8 godina

The ZSO will act in accordance to the Brussels agreement and UN resolution 1244 which formed the basis. Serbia and Kosovo Serbs do not recognize any edict from the "Kosovo Constitution Court" and it can be argued that it is unconstitutional as Kosovo is not a UN member and not fully recognized as a Country.
(Jugoslavija, 29 January 2016 17:10)

If they do not care for Kosovo constitution why then they agreed to have the agreement as per Kosovo law? it is a bit oxymoronic when in one had you agree to the law of Kosovo but on the other you do not recognise it!

Why Serbs from Kosovo do not just act if they do not care for its constitution, then they should not care for Kosovo parliament and just create ZSO.

Well pre-election campaign mumble of Vucic must have you all excited, the road for ZSO is long and it is agreed that Kosovo constitutional court will review the mandate after its been writen not sure how can you not accept the same thing will review it.

Gjon Marku

pre 8 godina

I remember when the words Kosovo independent or Kosovo recognition could not even be whispered in Serbia. No media would ever report anyone saying such a thing in public. Now here we are... you can find it in the media, you can hear people calling for it in public. Here is how recognition of Kosovo works. Phase 1: KOSOVO IS SERBIA!! 2. Kosovo is Serbia! 3. Kosovo is Serbia ?! 4. Kosovo is...? 5. Kosovo is Independent.

Serbia is in Phase 4 now. Fighting in every institution to slow down the progress.

Rocky

pre 8 godina

Well, you can tell from his statements that the USA have not exactly sent their best man to be "ambassador" in this Serb province. People like him should be removed at the earliest opportunity.
(Tony (a Brit in Berlin), 29 January 2016 18:28)

Now Now tony the spit, that was a
childish like comment, a Serbian province wouldn't be allowed an ambassador as there is one already in Belgrade? I have yet to hear of a country that has provinces with 2 ambassadors???
Grow up, or at least practice at acting it!

Tony (a Brit in Berlin)

pre 8 godina

Well, you can tell from his statements that the USA have not exactly sent their best man to be "ambassador" in this Serb province. People like him should be removed at the earliest opportunity.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

Mr. Greg Delawie!
Kosovo the ancient and very sacred Holy land for all Serbian people in the world! Kosovo for many centuries the sacred and holy possession of Serbia and will always belong to Serbia! Kosovo is Serbia and Serbia is Kosovo! The USA born only a few hundred years ago in the womb of Satan and wants to re write all world ancient history! What does the USA imagine that this is like the North American continent a few hundred years ago and we Serbian people only Indians to murder and steal our heritage? So sick and demonic this attitude from the USA towards the whole world! You see my Dear Serbian Brothers and Sisters who is pulling all the strings, the USA so profoundly determined to not only murder all Eastern Orthodox Christianity in Europe they also want to erase all traces of our culture and heritage! So bold these USA gansters are, the Arayan race is going to end up at the profound bottom of Hell's pit! Kosovo is not yet taken away from Serbia only will be if we Serbians permit that to happen! The USA has many land and territory they stole from the North American Indian people and also what they stole from the Republic of Mexico a few hundred years ago. I propose that the USA being so concerened with helping Albanian Islamic terrorist, take all these Albanian Islamic terrorist freedom fighters and keep them in the USA on all that open space still available! Why not, USA feels they need to help Albania, well put your money where your mouth is USA or shut up!!!

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

According to Albanian language daily Zeri, published in Pristina, Delawie also said - in reference to the Serb entity in Bosnia - that "nobody, including the U.S., wants to see a Serb Republic in Kosovo," and that the future Community of Serb Municipalities "will act in accordance with the instructions of the Kosovo Constitutional Court."

The ZSO will act in accordance to the Brussels agreement and UN resolution 1244 which formed the basis. Serbia and Kosovo Serbs do not recognize any edict from the "Kosovo Constitution Court" and it can be argued that it is unconstitutional as Kosovo is not a UN member and not fully recognized as a Country.

tom

pre 8 godina

well the world hopes that USA recognises Texas, new Mexico , California and other Mexican states to have their independence.....and if want to rejoin Mexico.....

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To an American in Nis,
From a Aussie in Jagodina, he his not stupid.The hand that feeds you, you don't bite it!. Shqiptars give him extra racket money and he speak's in their interest.
I bet you if the native Americans (Indians) have him money,he would ask for Yellow stone Park to be their country, aswell Mexican's wanting Texas seperate country.He is FOR SALE!.
P's give Alaska back to the original owners (Russian's).

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

Mr. Greg Delawie!
Kosovo the ancient and very sacred Holy land for all Serbian people in the world! Kosovo for many centuries the sacred and holy possession of Serbia and will always belong to Serbia! Kosovo is Serbia and Serbia is Kosovo! The USA born only a few hundred years ago in the womb of Satan and wants to re write all world ancient history! What does the USA imagine that this is like the North American continent a few hundred years ago and we Serbian people only Indians to murder and steal our heritage? So sick and demonic this attitude from the USA towards the whole world! You see my Dear Serbian Brothers and Sisters who is pulling all the strings, the USA so profoundly determined to not only murder all Eastern Orthodox Christianity in Europe they also want to erase all traces of our culture and heritage! So bold these USA gansters are, the Arayan race is going to end up at the profound bottom of Hell's pit! Kosovo is not yet taken away from Serbia only will be if we Serbians permit that to happen! The USA has many land and territory they stole from the North American Indian people and also what they stole from the Republic of Mexico a few hundred years ago. I propose that the USA being so concerened with helping Albanian Islamic terrorist, take all these Albanian Islamic terrorist freedom fighters and keep them in the USA on all that open space still available! Why not, USA feels they need to help Albania, well put your money where your mouth is USA or shut up!!!

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

According to Albanian language daily Zeri, published in Pristina, Delawie also said - in reference to the Serb entity in Bosnia - that "nobody, including the U.S., wants to see a Serb Republic in Kosovo," and that the future Community of Serb Municipalities "will act in accordance with the instructions of the Kosovo Constitutional Court."

The ZSO will act in accordance to the Brussels agreement and UN resolution 1244 which formed the basis. Serbia and Kosovo Serbs do not recognize any edict from the "Kosovo Constitution Court" and it can be argued that it is unconstitutional as Kosovo is not a UN member and not fully recognized as a Country.

Ziggy

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is named after the blackbird in Serbian not in Gheg,or Tosk (Albanian) dialects for those who are educationally challenged. This is the deliberate stealing of Serbian territory by NATO facist states solely to keep the Albanian population from leaving for a better life in Western Europe. It has failed it has turned Kosovo into a mafia fiefdom and young Albanians are leaving in their droves by obtaining Serbian travel documents to aid travel and to spuriously apply for asylum in Germany. Tell me who has got rich in Kosovo province, yes the KLA hieracy and Thaci and his chums. Kosovo is a de-facto part of Albania in all but name and the Americans should hang their heads in shame, they are the great Satan indeed.88

Tony (a Brit in Berlin)

pre 8 godina

Well, you can tell from his statements that the USA have not exactly sent their best man to be "ambassador" in this Serb province. People like him should be removed at the earliest opportunity.

John Sheldon

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is part of Serbia, doesn't matter of name of Empire support terrorist from Kosovo! Yesterday it was Turkey, today-USA, but we will stay on OUR OWN LAND ! We will never recognize results of ethnic leansing made by USA and kosovo terrorists !

Tony (a Brit in Berlin)

pre 8 godina

To Rocky the internet troll: I placed the word ambassador in quotation marks because Kosovo is not universally recognized as an independent country. And for your information it never will.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Demi said:

Albanians are the native people of the Balkans and Kosova, western Macedonia, southern Montenegro and northern Greece are all Albanian land where Albanians are an majority.
=======================

Prove it.

tom

pre 8 godina

well the world hopes that USA recognises Texas, new Mexico , California and other Mexican states to have their independence.....and if want to rejoin Mexico.....

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To an American in Nis,
From a Aussie in Jagodina, he his not stupid.The hand that feeds you, you don't bite it!. Shqiptars give him extra racket money and he speak's in their interest.
I bet you if the native Americans (Indians) have him money,he would ask for Yellow stone Park to be their country, aswell Mexican's wanting Texas seperate country.He is FOR SALE!.
P's give Alaska back to the original owners (Russian's).

Gjon Marku

pre 8 godina

I remember when the words Kosovo independent or Kosovo recognition could not even be whispered in Serbia. No media would ever report anyone saying such a thing in public. Now here we are... you can find it in the media, you can hear people calling for it in public. Here is how recognition of Kosovo works. Phase 1: KOSOVO IS SERBIA!! 2. Kosovo is Serbia! 3. Kosovo is Serbia ?! 4. Kosovo is...? 5. Kosovo is Independent.

Serbia is in Phase 4 now. Fighting in every institution to slow down the progress.

IvanPN

pre 8 godina

'high Demi' (sorry but are you high?, if not then just hi)

I deny your opinion, as do many other people that can type and read. Could you please type into google 'timeline of Albanian history' and in another tab 'timeline of Serbian history'.
For those who can't be bothered,
1190 the principality of Arber was created
1200 local Albanian noble families began to emerge.
(10 years to become noble? ;(.

620 a first wave of Serbs migrated to Serbia,
780 viseslav of Serbia, the first Serbia ruler known by name.


Demi----FAIL

Serbs took Kosovo territory from the Greeks,historically.

600 years my ancestors put up with Islam, and still they didn't bow.
Yet apparently there was a mass bowing (what is the bowing for BTW) in Albania in 1700.

Velika Albania, sounds more like velika bullsh*t.

BTW, when the US turns from being passive aggressive to just aggressive, well,like we say in OZ, its all down hill from here. By 2020, the territory re occupied by Serb majority in KiM will look like a big wedge pointing south, the political flanks will be ready

Knock knock, hello Pristina:)

Zoran P.. Sydney

pre 8 godina

when Serbia held Kosovo there was 1% of refugees from Kosova in Europe, when they got Independence there are 30% refugees from Kosova in Europe second highest after Syria. Proves that mafia can't run a country

Demi

pre 8 godina

(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 29 January 2016 18:11)



Hey mr! You talk about US taking land from native americans... But where did you and your fellow serb people came fr.o.m. 700 years ago??? So nobody livet in Kosova before you slavic invaded here?

Albanians are the native people of the Balkans and Kosova, western Macedonia, southern Montenegro and northern Greece are all Albanian land where Albanians are an majority. We love our land an that is the reason why we are an majority despite slavic barbaric invaders. You build churches everywhere to justify your theft of other peoples land and on the other hand you try to murder the native people of that land with blessing of the same churches. barbaric slavic savages!


Albanians and Greece people are the only people in modern Balkan who can say that the land we live on is rightfuly ours. Serbs,Bosnian,Croat and "macedonian" people are all slavic invaders to the land they live on today. If tomorrow somthing bad happend you all have a place to go to but Greeks and Albanians have nowhere else to go! That is why serbs left Kosova and Albanians did not despite serb supremacy. We Love the land more than you do!

Albanians have allways lived in Kosova and will allways do. Just because the ottomans were here for 500 diden't make the land turkish. And that is why the land will never be serbian despite 700 years of occupation and million church built. Reamember that and where you came from!

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To Demi and cry me a River,
Give me a church,temple etc to prove that you where there 3000 years!
Give me any objects ot buildings older than 1200 years ,that you where there longer than Serbia.You can't ,because Shqiptars come from ADANA State and around Turkey.
I don't need a look around,because ,I been around the Balkans and see NO object or existence from Shqiptars longer then 150 years!!!.And that is a fact!.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

...P's give Alaska back to the original owners (Russian's).
(sasa.p, 29 January 2016 17:53)...

The original owners sold Alaska to Americans for 7.2 million $.
Secondly I don't think that people of Alaska want to join Russia.

Check the history books don't read only chetnik propaganda.

Thirdly,
US ambassador speaks for USA officially, the same stance had USA ambassador in Belgrade Mr Kirby and the same will have the new USA ambassador that will come next month.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To Demi,
Prove it,that Shqiptars in the Balkans have been their more then 300 year's,by either a religious(church,etc) or culture object's.
To Theodor Muzaka,
I thought the Russian's can take note from you Shqiptars ,and break the agreement they signed in the Late 1800's, like you trying to break resolution 1244 . If you (Shqiptars) can't honour the agreement you sign in 1999 ,resolution 1244.Why should any other country ,honour any contract's they sign!.
As they say,take a leaf out of you in contracts, or always Tie a Shqiptar to a leg of a table when a hand is shaken on an agreement!!.

Donkey Hoxha

pre 8 godina

Albanians and Greece people are the only people in modern Balkan who can say that the land we live on is rightfuly ours.
(Demi, 29 January 2016 22:37)

And isn't it interesting how native Greeks have been part of the region's history for 3,000 years while Albanians have been nothing but a footnote? Isn't it also interesting how all these Slavic "invaders" all achieved great medieval civilizations at least once? Bulgaria had two empires, Serbia had a kingdom and an empire, heck even Bosnia had a kingdom once too! Even the Turks who were clear invaders had an empire! What major historical contributions have Albanians ever produced? You guys were the last to form a country, and you spent years under communism as repressive and as totalitarian as North Korea.

Paul

pre 8 godina

The US has never stolen any land from anyone, unless you want to count the colonial powers against which it declared a revolution and from which it took the lands they stole from the native Americans.

The offense in history that the US has against the natives is in broken treaties. But the natives were already doomed by the colonial powers long before the US was born, especially in South and Central America.

The US bought Alaska from Imperial Russia which the Czar sold to pay off gambling debts. If you want to find a villain, find out who collected the debts.

factman

pre 8 godina

The first attempts were to militarily force recognition.

After that came a period of veiled threats

This was followed by a period where trickery was used.

Then followed a period of coercion and pressure.

Next came a period where they decided to "wait"

Now comes a period of hope

Anyone notice a trend here?

Rocky

pre 8 godina

Well, you can tell from his statements that the USA have not exactly sent their best man to be "ambassador" in this Serb province. People like him should be removed at the earliest opportunity.
(Tony (a Brit in Berlin), 29 January 2016 18:28)

Now Now tony the spit, that was a
childish like comment, a Serbian province wouldn't be allowed an ambassador as there is one already in Belgrade? I have yet to hear of a country that has provinces with 2 ambassadors???
Grow up, or at least practice at acting it!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"Why is this court necessary? I have been here (Pristina) since August of last year and so far I have seen several examples of what people do here with impunity. It seems that some people convicted of war crimes come and go to prison as they wish, that they go to Sweden and other countries when they wish," he remarked.

Nice to read those words from an US ambassador. That happens when you have a mafia state where former war criminals and mafia bosses play politicians.

Danilo

pre 8 godina

You recognize Puerto Rico first and than we will talk, oh wait, yankee doodles wouldn't give up part 'of their sovereign land'.
(makeyouadeal, 30 January 2016 13:50)

Why do some people always try to make stupid comparisons with the USA?

Puerto Rico isn't seeking independence - in 2012, they had a referendum where 65% voted to become a US state and 4% voted for independence. Mexicans in Texas aren't seeking independence. Mexico doesn't want California back. None of these invented red hearings have anything to do with Kosovo

observer1

pre 8 godina

I just wanted to give a shout out to DEMI. Demi - you have hit the nail in the head. Albanians are and will always be native to the Balkans and have proved throughout history that they would rather stay and fight than be kicked out.

I would say that what has happened in Kosovo is another manifestation of just that. Personally, I think that the ever lasting Albanian majority in Kosovo is an extremely vexing fact for the Serbs and they just don't know how to deal with it. Hence, the Serb hysteria in postings online such as in B92. I hope for the sake of Serbians that they recognize Kosovo soon!

kosovofieldsserbian4ever

pre 8 godina

"Albanians and Greece people are the only people in modern Balkan who can say that the land we live on is rightfuly ours."

LOL. Only Neanderthals can say that, NOT you.

cry me a river

pre 8 godina

To Demi,
Prove it,that Shqiptars in the Balkans have been their more then 300 year's,by either a religious(church,etc) or culture object's.
(sasa.p

Sasa, there is proof that Shqiptars have been in the Balkans not only 300 years but for at least 3,000. If it is of interest then you can find it if you look hard enough.

the truth

pre 8 godina

If you (Shqiptars) can't honour the agreement you sign in 1999 ,resolution 1244.Why should any other country ,honour any contract's they sign!.
As they say,take a leaf out of you in contracts, or always Tie a Shqiptar to a leg of a table when a hand is shaken on an agreement!!.
(sasa.p, 30 January 2016 10:41) # Comment link

With you Serbs is: damn if you do it, damn if you don't. When UNMIK was governing Kosova , you did not recognize UNMIK documents(ID and passport), meaning you did not recognize UNMIK. Once the Independence was declared and Kosova had its own ID and passport, you guys said that you recognize only UNMIK documents. Try to figure your own self out what you want !?

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To icj1,
Don't you get it!,
He gets paid from the RACKET money(drug,arms(guns,weapons),Prostitutions etc) from the Mafia leaders and its not Billion's!!.
Surely they have an extra 300k to give him,to get him to sing like a canary ,how great is Pristina.
You are Dumb, country's can be broke ,with normal 90% population suffering in poverty, while the rest top level have money and live like king's. Do you get it now.!!
P's it doesn't Suit you to comment like you are clever, or cute comments!.

icj1

pre 8 godina

If you (Shqiptars) can't honour the agreement you sign in 1999 ,resolution 1244.
(sasa.p, 30 January 2016 10:41)

First of all, UNSCR 1244 is mandatory for everybody, whether they like it or not. It's not a matter of signature.

Second, Kosovo declared independence in accordance with UNSCR 1244, so they did honor it

So, I have no idea what you are talking about, dear!
----------

Why should any other country ,honour any contract's they sign!.
(sasa.p, 30 January 2016 10:41)

Note that you are comparing Kosovo to the rest of the countries which means that you are considering Kosovo to be a... country :)

Gjon Marku

pre 8 godina

when Serbia held Kosovo there was 1% of refugees from Kosova in Europe, when they got Independence there are 30% refugees from Kosova in Europe second highest after Syria. Proves that mafia can't run a country
(Zoran P.. Sydney, 30 January 2016 23:15)

Wrong! When Kosovo was autonomous, there was 1% refugees. Then Serbia got in charge and fucked up whole Yugoslavia!!. Literally everyone ran from you. Even Montenegro (Serbs) said those chetniks are crazy we have to distance as far as possible.

Proves that massmurderers, warcriminals and rapist cant run a country.

Mick Rooney

pre 8 godina

Greg, there is more hope in Bob Hope of that happening. Honestly, in general, i would reccommend worrying about FYR Macedonia, and Kosovo. It seems that the spoilt children you placed in power are going to throw a tantrum.

In 1878 the KAlbanian extremists did not hesitate to kill the Turkish administrator for failing to deliver independence. Therefore, EULEX, US beware of rumbling antagonisms by the men watching Haradinaj and Kurti!

History is going to repeat...

rote

pre 8 godina

Paul : The US bought Alaska from Imperial Russia which the Czar sold to pay off gambling debts.

I’ve studied the issue well enough and still I have no answer why exactly it was formally sold. So how can you insist on something you don’t know. What if I tell you that the millions of the Indians killed in America were Russians. What if I tell you that the US could not appear and win all those internal and external wars on the continent without Russia’s direct involvement ? What if I tell you that the US FED belongs to Russia (88,2%) and China (11,2%) ? ect.ect.

icj1

pre 8 godina

The first attempts were to militarily force recognition.

After that came a period of veiled threats

This was followed by a period where trickery was used.

Then followed a period of coercion and pressure.

Next came a period where they decided to "wait"

Now comes a period of hope

Anyone notice a trend here?
(factman, 30 January 2016 02:24)

Absolutely; the trend is obvious... Kosovo went from being recognized by 0 countries to 110+ today.

Farmer

pre 8 godina

I was away from my computer and out feeding the animals when I heard this loud wailing coming from the direction of Serbia. It frightened the animals. Could sj, Ari Gold, rote and the other chetniks please keep the noise down, the Ambassador has a right to express America's demands. Everyone else knows Kosova is independent and will soon be a member of the UN and EU.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Shqiptars give him extra racket money and he speak's in their interest.
(sasa.p, 29 January 2016 17:53)

The above is not correct because according to the CE of B92 forums sj the Shqiptars are broke! You need to pay more attention to his/her teachings.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

boom

pre 8 godina

We have been so vociferous in this forum treating albanians as being all criminals. Maybe it is time we cleaned in front of our door first.
Interpol is out with their most wanted list and out of 45 most wanted criminals, seven are serbs, one from kosovo and none from albania. That is a huge number given our population.
Time to take care of our business instead and improving our economy, albanians are progressing faster.
https://eumostwanted.eu/fr

Brian

pre 8 godina

Serbia doesn't just recognize Kosovo! Vucic must schedule a referendum whereby he asks Serbs to vote to remove Kosovo claim from serbias constitution and then there can be formal recogntion. There's already informal recognition because 63% of Serbia according to ipsos polling says Kosovo is independent so that's why Serbia is still a member of the olympics and plan to compete against the sovereign and independent republic of kosovo in rio. Its why dejan pavicevic is serbia ambassador to Kosovo and why Serbs train to be border guards and customs agents on Kosovo Serbia international style border. When Kosovo Serbs vote on roeunlic of Kosovo ballots they also recognize Kosovo.

icj1

pre 8 godina

when Serbia held Kosovo there was 1% of refugees from Kosova in Europe, when they got Independence there are 30% refugees from Kosova in Europe second highest after Syria. Proves that mafia can't run a country
(Zoran P.. Sydney, 30 January 2016 23:15)

when Turkey held Serbia you could not find any emigrants from Serbia in the US, when they got Independence there are thousands of emigrants from Serbia in the US. Proves that mafia can't run a country :)

IvanPN

pre 8 godina

'cry me a river' its surprising but when you look hard enough its the Albanians who called themselves shqiptars ( circa 17th cen.) so I'm not sure why you jumped into that one.
If you meant to say illyrians, then try your luck? I'll wait for that one too.

'icj1' actually the independence of Kosovo was not envisioned by the document which was signed under duress UNSCR 1244, its roots are more like belonging to the Helsinki or Ahtisaari. Under the guise of the Kosovo status process.

But point 8 in summary of 1244, I'm sure you will agree is the gravest of all where the resolution failed
" require the UN to assure the safe and UNIMPEDED return of all refugees and displaced persons to their homes in Kosovo and to ensure conditions for a peaceful and a normal life for ALL inhabitants of the province"

My personal opinion, the situation has gone too far to be peacefully resolved. The ZSO will not be enough. It is highly likely that Albania and Kosovo will unite, and then they will begin to claim other parts of Serbia. I still can't work out if part of Macedonia and Montenegro go before the great war breaks out. When it gets to this point the force which is providing all the legal framework will be apparent. Is it the Austrians who hate us like hitzer the Jews, or is it that super power with inferiority issues.
Or maybe its the maid with the broom in the closet. Who ever it is, we the people are the ones who will have to once again do the dirtier work :(

Gjon Marku

pre 8 godina

Then show me proof that those people on your list are guilty and I don’t mean from Interpol or the US proof.
I liked Milosevic and do not blame him for anything so don’t hold your breath waiting for the apology or any reparations mate.
(sj, 1 February 2016 12:49

Here is the proof. Dosije „Operacija Reka“ by Fond za humanitarno pravo in Beograd. http://www.hlc-rdc.org/?p=30521

There is even a documentary directed by Ognjen Glavonić coming out. It will be displayed at the Berlinale 2016. https://www.facebook.com/ognjen.glavonic/posts/10153834118438638

If you don`t believe Interpol, even though you thought its a good idea to name interpol concerning Thaci but then all of a sudden you dont like interpol anymore because you shot your self in the foos, then here is a source from Beograd.

Actually I`m happy you said that you liked Milosevic because now I know that your own people hate you probably just as much as I do.

Well I linked plenty of proof and I`m not talking about alligations but a report with hundreds of victims, testimonies from Kosovo and Serbia and a Massgrave in Batajnica Military Base near Beograd. Now where is the proof of your claims? Oh yea, you don`t have any because you are just a little liar.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Point 10 in the summary. No matter how many times I read it, the word independence is not there.
(IvanPN, 1 February 2016 11:58)

Exactly, there is nothing there that forbids the independence so independence is in accordance with UNSCR 1244. Thanks for providing the evidence that proves my point :)

Blind Profet

pre 8 godina

The ZSO will act in accordance to the Brussels agreement and UN resolution 1244 which formed the basis. Serbia and Kosovo Serbs do not recognize any edict from the "Kosovo Constitution Court" and it can be argued that it is unconstitutional as Kosovo is not a UN member and not fully recognized as a Country.
(Jugoslavija, 29 January 2016 17:10)

If they do not care for Kosovo constitution why then they agreed to have the agreement as per Kosovo law? it is a bit oxymoronic when in one had you agree to the law of Kosovo but on the other you do not recognise it!

Why Serbs from Kosovo do not just act if they do not care for its constitution, then they should not care for Kosovo parliament and just create ZSO.

Well pre-election campaign mumble of Vucic must have you all excited, the road for ZSO is long and it is agreed that Kosovo constitutional court will review the mandate after its been writen not sure how can you not accept the same thing will review it.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Shqiptars give him extra racket money and he speak's in their interest.
(sasa.p, 29 January 2016 17:53)

The above is not correct because according to the CE of B92 forums sj the Shqiptars are broke! You need to pay more attention to his/her teachings.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 30 January 2016 02:24)

You are Dumb, country's can be broke ,with normal 90% population suffering in poverty, while the rest top level have money and live like king's. Do you get it now.!!
P's it doesn't Suit you to comment like you are clever, or cute comments!.
(sasa.p, 30 January 2016 18:30)

Well, there is nothing for me to get - I just quoted the CE of B92 forums sj. It is unacceptable however for you to call "dumb" the brilliant analysis of the CE of B92 forums sj who has dedicated his/her life to providing members of these forums with the best economic and financial analysis ever.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Gjon Marku

pre 8 godina

(sj, 1 February 2016 09:36)

First of all, I dont like Thaci either but he was never wanted by Interpol unlike 17 Pending red notice from Interpol for Serbs right now!http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/interpol-seeks-arrest-of-17-yugoslav-fighters-for-kosovo-crimes

Momir Stojanovic,ruling party MP
Nikola Micunovic, the former head of the Djakovica Military Department
Momcilo Stijovic, a former police officer
Momcilo, Milutin and Miladin Novakovic, also former police officers
Muharem Ibraj, a former police commander
Sreten Camovic, a former state security officer
Dimitrije Rasovic, a former police inspector

and a series of other Serb fighters: father and son Dragan and Aleksandar Pekovic, Zivko Vuksanovic, Miras Gegovic, Predrag Stojanovic, Miso Popovic, Lazar Draskovic and Zoran Mirkovic

Second, most of our politician? Really? Name one and show proof.

I know you all say it was Milosevic`s fault and you claim stuff without any sources, but truth is, he had your full support. Milosevic is your identity and will remain so until an official apology and reparations. Just like Nazi Germany.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Yes, 110 out of 193 UN member states recognized Kosovo. But talking about the trend: With 1 recognition in 2015, how long will it take until the disputed territory of Kosovo ([link]) will become a country like 193 others on the world?
(Questioner, 1 February 2016 10:48)

Well, Kosovo is already a country for those 110 so not sure what your question means :)

icj1

pre 8 godina

Well, there is nothing for me to get - I just quoted the CE of B92 forums sj. It is unacceptable however for you to call "dumb" the brilliant analysis of the CE of B92 forums sj who has dedicated his/her life to providing members of these forums with the best economic and financial analysis ever.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 31 January 2016 01:40)

This what happens when the Albanian Idiot cannot put forth an opposing view and comes out with this nonsense
(sj, 1 February 2016 13:22)

Woow! I would have never expected you to label as "nonsense" the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj!!!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

delon

pre 8 godina

@ peggy
https://books.google.gr/books?id=XFtbEd1ojBsC&pg=RA1-PA90&dq=macedonian+hellenic+language+%22paleo+balkan%22&hl=el&sa=X&ei=x7srUqHdOITZsgbInIGwCQ#v=onepage&q=macedonian%20hellenic%20language%20%22paleo%20balkan%22&f=false

ivan

pre 8 godina

Serbia should never recognize Kosovo. Just sit back and wait for the right opportunity to retake what is rightfully hers. When the time is ripe, the last thing that Serbia would want is to be intertwined in legalities. This way, they never recognized the illegal amputation of their territory, they just want to claim what belongs to them. It will just require some tactical political manoeuvering until the inevitable.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To Gjon Marku,
A communist Milosevic ran the country ,and didn't even give no properties back to the Serb Royalty family. He (Milosevic), and his cronies where against the Serbian Royalty family!. So stop calling the Commo's Chetniks!.I don't think you would be happy calling ,your KLA , Ballista or Balli Kombetar the Nazi's!.
Don't confuse Communist, with Royalty Chetnik's! Zoran is right,if their your Master (owner)"Brussels ", allows your Shqiptars holiday visas,then the Serb's would be the majority in KiM,your Shqiptar population, would be running for EU and Switzerland.
P's like you left Pristina,and didn't go back to leave in NATO Paradise again.When you go back to leave in Pristina permanently, then comment!

sj

pre 8 godina

Proves that massmurderers, warcriminals and rapist cant run a country.
(Gjon Marku, 31 January 2016 07:56)


Mustapha you’re going to pull it right off if you keep playing with yourself.

So now that your Albos are in charge it’s the Serbs fault that at first opportunity busloads of your brethren could not want to leave Albo heaven called Kosova.
Last time, I looked most of your so called politicians were at one time wanted as terrorist or criminals. Look at Thaci, until his conversion to democracy and human rights loving he was on Interpols most wanted list.

EU prisons are filled with Albanians. Ask the British authorities what they think of peace-loving Albanians, LOL.

sj

pre 8 godina

(Gjon Marku, 1 February 2016 10:43)

I hate to break the news to you but Thaci was a well-known criminal that was involved in drug and human trafficking and other criminal activities. I also know that the west has been diligent in trying to hide Thaci’s background because it would not be a good look for the western world to see what the US has appointed as PM of Kosovo.
Thaci was involved in killing the 40 Albanian villagers which the CIA field officer, William Walker, confirmed it was done by the Serbs.
The list you provide is all crap and I am surprised that I am not on it. The Interpol of pre 1990 and Interpol of today are two different things. Interpol is no longer looked as an impartial or trusted organisation by a large number of countries. You only had to see in cases where Belgrade’s arrest warrants for 2 Albanians were ignored by Interpol because they were protected by democracy and freedom.
You want proof? Then show me proof that those people on your list are guilty and I don’t mean from Interpol or the US proof.
I liked Milosevic and do not blame him for anything so don’t hold your breath waiting for the apology or any reparations mate.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Demi said:

Albanians are the native people of the Balkans and Kosova, western Macedonia, southern Montenegro and northern Greece are all Albanian land where Albanians are an majority.
===…==

Prove it.
(Peggy, 29 January 2016 23:12)

Don't worry, dear! Our dear friend Demi is going to fail as miserably as the Serbs in that endeavor :)

sj

pre 8 godina

Well, there is nothing for me to get - I just quoted the CE of B92 forums sj. It is unacceptable however for you to call "dumb" the brilliant analysis of the CE of B92 forums sj who has dedicated his/her life to providing members of these forums with the best economic and financial analysis ever.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 31 January 2016 01:40)

This what happens when the Albanian Idiot cannot put forth an opposing view and comes out with this nonsense, but it does love its P.S. LOL.
This only indicates its debating skills are challenged, to say the least, and uses the same lines over and over again thinking its smart when it only makes it look linguistically inept.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Well, there is nothing for me to get - I just quoted the CE of B92 forums sj. It is unacceptable however for you to call "dumb" the brilliant analysis of the CE of B92 forums sj who has dedicated his/her life to providing members of these forums with the best economic and financial analysis ever.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 31 January 2016 01:40)

This what happens when the Albanian Idiot cannot put forth an opposing view and comes out with this nonsense
(sj, 1 February 2016 13:22)

Woow! I would have never expected you to label as "nonsense" the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj!!!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 8 godina

I do not trust any humanitarian group because they are funded by the west.
(sj, 2 February 2016 09:54)

That is impossible because according to the CE of B92 forums sj, the West has collapsed and run out of cash!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Danilo

pre 8 godina

(sj, 2 February 2016 09:54)

Isn't that awfully cute? 8800 bodies were found buried in various mass graves connected to the Srebrenica massacre.

Your standards for examining this proof? Preconditions are that they solve a supposed crime in Afghanistan, them "knock on your door"

You're a funny guy, man :)

Questioner

pre 8 godina

And I hope Kosovo will one day get decent politicians which are not either mafia bosses, war criminals or violent nationalist hooligans like has been the last 15-20 years. today a So everyone might express his hope, and maybe, in 1-2 generations, it will become reality?

icj1

pre 8 godina

'icj1' actually the independence of Kosovo was not envisioned by the document which was signed under duress UNSCR 1244, its roots are more like belonging to the Helsinki or Ahtisaari. Under the guise of the Kosovo status process.
(IvanPN, 31 January 2016 02:10)

Of course. And I did not say anywhere that UNSCR 1244 envisions any particular status for Kosovo. Not sure why you quoted me :)
----------

But point 8 in summary of 1244, I'm sure you will agree is the gravest of all where the resolution failed
" require the UN to assure the safe and UNIMPEDED return of all refugees and displaced persons to their homes in Kosovo and to ensure conditions for a peaceful and a normal life for ALL inhabitants of the province"
(IvanPN, 31 January 2016 02:10)

Well, if it has failed, it is not because of UNSCR 1244's fault. You can't force people to return to an area which has a GDP per capita 30% lower than where they live now.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

Well, if it has failed, it is not because of UNSCR 1244's fault. You can't force people to return to an area which has a GDP per capita 30% lower than where they live now.
(icj1, 31 January 2016 17:34)

And the few dozens mostly elderly persons that really returned to their homes and places they were living their whole live, you can intimidate with hand grenades thrown at their houses, stones https://xs4.b92.net/w2/index.php?lang=english&whereto=comments&to_class=%27News_New%27&news_dd=01&news_mm=02&news_yyyy=2016&page=1&action=all_unreviewedthrown through the windows and on their cars, and some more little 'incidents', all done by 'playing kids' of course (quoting the KPS spokesperson)? This you call UNIMPEDED return? Funny guy, you.

Jovan

pre 8 godina

The "one and only global superpower" ( as some rather simple albanian stated a few years ago ) hopes...

Well, if the mighty empire hopes, my dear albanian friends, you should think it over again, I guess.

Otherwise you will be the ones swimming in the adriatic in the future...

this

pre 8 godina

I think it's high time that in the name of all Slavs, Serbs claim back their ancient SLAVIC lands in Austria taken by the Swabians separating Slavs into North and South! So many Slavs living in Austria forcefully for years speaking that annoying and ugly German language when they should be speaking their beautiful Slavic language on their ancient Slavic land!

IvanPN

pre 8 godina

@icj1..your memory must be slipping " they declared independence in accordance in with UNSCR 1244"

Due to the false statement, they actually DIS-honour it.

Point 10 in the summary. No matter how many times I read it, the word independence is not there.
-status, three times.
-compliance of the disputing parties, once for each
-substantial autonomy, once for each.

BTW, point 8, the UN failed. Displaced citizens do not want to return to their homes due to fear from Kalbs.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Is this the best you can do? This is the writing style of a 6 year old who tries to turn a situation against an opponent using his/her words.
(sj, 2 February 2016 07:52)

Well, I can't ignore the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj... that would be a sacrilege! And, btw, I'm sure he/she is more than 6 years old which is why I refer to his/her teachings :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Questioner

pre 8 godina

Absolutely; the trend is obvious... Kosovo went from being recognized by 0 countries to 110+ today.
(icj1, 31 January 2016 01:33)

Yes, 110 out of 193 UN member states recognized Kosovo. But talking about the trend: With 1 recognition in 2015, how long will it take until the disputed territory of Kosovo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territorial_disputes#Disputes_between_UN-recognized_states_and_others) will become a country like 193 others on the world? Or to see it in a broader range, look at the trend from 2011 to 2015 (13, 12, 8, 5 and 1 recognitions), and draw your conclusions

sj

pre 8 godina

Woow! I would have never expected you to label as "nonsense" the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj!!!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 1 February 2016 16:08)

Is this the best you can do? This is the writing style of a 6 year old who tries to turn a situation against an opponent using his/her words.

sj

pre 8 godina

(Gjon Marku, 1 February 2016 14:44)
I do not trust any humanitarian group because they are funded by the west.
Because the Serbs do not give in easily, the west is obsessed with proving to the world they were right to intervene in Kosovo because of a humanitarian crises, but when it came to real one, such as Rhwanda, they turned a blind eye. The Serbs are not stupid people unlike the Americans and they cannot bring them to yield so we get these very interesting tales such as Srebrenica and then these documentaries. But alas it’s all to no avail because we do not give a cracker about them.
When they bring to trial and imprison the people involved in a recent bombing of the Afghan hospital where 19 Doctors without Borders employees were killed. When they bring to trial and imprison the people who knowingly killed in the street of Bagdad in July 2007 from a helicopter then come back knocking on my door about justice.

sj

pre 8 godina

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 2 February 2016 15:10)

Our resident Albanian Idiot has used its usual form of learned response – cut and past again, eh. Not enough grey cells for original comment, LOL. Keep it up we can never have enough AI stupidity.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Link for the below comment documenting 31 articles from major western new sources:

[link]
(factman, 3 February 2016 04:24)

Good Post, you can see how the funds from the Yugoslav development fund was being abused by Kosovo Albanians and forced deportation of Serbians from the autonomous province particularly after Tito's death. It is the exactly the same situation now, this time EU is dumping money into the black hole of KLA corruption.

factman

pre 8 godina

Milosevic is dead.

Here are 31 articles from major western newspapers which document the behaviors in Kosovo which eventually led to war - before Milosevic ever came to power.

Very easy to blame Milosevic -- The facts say otherwise.

factman

pre 8 godina

Link for the below comment documenting 31 articles from major western new sources:

http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/benworks/1980news.html

sj

pre 8 godina

(Danilo, 2 February 2016 19:11)

I believe that 8800 bodies were found, but they were not from Srebrenica. It became obvious in the early days that something big had to occur to force the Serbs to the negotiating table.
Robert Baer, a former CIA officer:
When asked about Srebrenica, Baer said that from 1992 he had been in Bosnia again. This time, he said, they trained military units representing Bosnia, the new state which only just had declared its independence. Srebrenica is an exaggerated story, he said, many people have been manipulated by it. He said the numbers of people killed were part of political marketing.
This is one of your allies mate not a Serb.
Now who is going to be accountable for murdering those 19 in Afghanistan?

Gjon Marku

pre 8 godina

I remember when the words Kosovo independent or Kosovo recognition could not even be whispered in Serbia. No media would ever report anyone saying such a thing in public. Now here we are... you can find it in the media, you can hear people calling for it in public. Here is how recognition of Kosovo works. Phase 1: KOSOVO IS SERBIA!! 2. Kosovo is Serbia! 3. Kosovo is Serbia ?! 4. Kosovo is...? 5. Kosovo is Independent.

Serbia is in Phase 4 now. Fighting in every institution to slow down the progress.

Demi

pre 8 godina

(Dragoljub Djurkovic, 29 January 2016 18:11)



Hey mr! You talk about US taking land from native americans... But where did you and your fellow serb people came fr.o.m. 700 years ago??? So nobody livet in Kosova before you slavic invaded here?

Albanians are the native people of the Balkans and Kosova, western Macedonia, southern Montenegro and northern Greece are all Albanian land where Albanians are an majority. We love our land an that is the reason why we are an majority despite slavic barbaric invaders. You build churches everywhere to justify your theft of other peoples land and on the other hand you try to murder the native people of that land with blessing of the same churches. barbaric slavic savages!


Albanians and Greece people are the only people in modern Balkan who can say that the land we live on is rightfuly ours. Serbs,Bosnian,Croat and "macedonian" people are all slavic invaders to the land they live on today. If tomorrow somthing bad happend you all have a place to go to but Greeks and Albanians have nowhere else to go! That is why serbs left Kosova and Albanians did not despite serb supremacy. We Love the land more than you do!

Albanians have allways lived in Kosova and will allways do. Just because the ottomans were here for 500 diden't make the land turkish. And that is why the land will never be serbian despite 700 years of occupation and million church built. Reamember that and where you came from!

Farmer

pre 8 godina

I was away from my computer and out feeding the animals when I heard this loud wailing coming from the direction of Serbia. It frightened the animals. Could sj, Ari Gold, rote and the other chetniks please keep the noise down, the Ambassador has a right to express America's demands. Everyone else knows Kosova is independent and will soon be a member of the UN and EU.

Gjon Marku

pre 8 godina

when Serbia held Kosovo there was 1% of refugees from Kosova in Europe, when they got Independence there are 30% refugees from Kosova in Europe second highest after Syria. Proves that mafia can't run a country
(Zoran P.. Sydney, 30 January 2016 23:15)

Wrong! When Kosovo was autonomous, there was 1% refugees. Then Serbia got in charge and fucked up whole Yugoslavia!!. Literally everyone ran from you. Even Montenegro (Serbs) said those chetniks are crazy we have to distance as far as possible.

Proves that massmurderers, warcriminals and rapist cant run a country.

cry me a river

pre 8 godina

To Demi,
Prove it,that Shqiptars in the Balkans have been their more then 300 year's,by either a religious(church,etc) or culture object's.
(sasa.p

Sasa, there is proof that Shqiptars have been in the Balkans not only 300 years but for at least 3,000. If it is of interest then you can find it if you look hard enough.

Tony (a Brit in Berlin)

pre 8 godina

Well, you can tell from his statements that the USA have not exactly sent their best man to be "ambassador" in this Serb province. People like him should be removed at the earliest opportunity.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Demi said:

Albanians are the native people of the Balkans and Kosova, western Macedonia, southern Montenegro and northern Greece are all Albanian land where Albanians are an majority.
=======================

Prove it.

Brian

pre 8 godina

Serbia doesn't just recognize Kosovo! Vucic must schedule a referendum whereby he asks Serbs to vote to remove Kosovo claim from serbias constitution and then there can be formal recogntion. There's already informal recognition because 63% of Serbia according to ipsos polling says Kosovo is independent so that's why Serbia is still a member of the olympics and plan to compete against the sovereign and independent republic of kosovo in rio. Its why dejan pavicevic is serbia ambassador to Kosovo and why Serbs train to be border guards and customs agents on Kosovo Serbia international style border. When Kosovo Serbs vote on roeunlic of Kosovo ballots they also recognize Kosovo.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

Mr. Greg Delawie!
Kosovo the ancient and very sacred Holy land for all Serbian people in the world! Kosovo for many centuries the sacred and holy possession of Serbia and will always belong to Serbia! Kosovo is Serbia and Serbia is Kosovo! The USA born only a few hundred years ago in the womb of Satan and wants to re write all world ancient history! What does the USA imagine that this is like the North American continent a few hundred years ago and we Serbian people only Indians to murder and steal our heritage? So sick and demonic this attitude from the USA towards the whole world! You see my Dear Serbian Brothers and Sisters who is pulling all the strings, the USA so profoundly determined to not only murder all Eastern Orthodox Christianity in Europe they also want to erase all traces of our culture and heritage! So bold these USA gansters are, the Arayan race is going to end up at the profound bottom of Hell's pit! Kosovo is not yet taken away from Serbia only will be if we Serbians permit that to happen! The USA has many land and territory they stole from the North American Indian people and also what they stole from the Republic of Mexico a few hundred years ago. I propose that the USA being so concerened with helping Albanian Islamic terrorist, take all these Albanian Islamic terrorist freedom fighters and keep them in the USA on all that open space still available! Why not, USA feels they need to help Albania, well put your money where your mouth is USA or shut up!!!

observer1

pre 8 godina

I just wanted to give a shout out to DEMI. Demi - you have hit the nail in the head. Albanians are and will always be native to the Balkans and have proved throughout history that they would rather stay and fight than be kicked out.

I would say that what has happened in Kosovo is another manifestation of just that. Personally, I think that the ever lasting Albanian majority in Kosovo is an extremely vexing fact for the Serbs and they just don't know how to deal with it. Hence, the Serb hysteria in postings online such as in B92. I hope for the sake of Serbians that they recognize Kosovo soon!

Rocky

pre 8 godina

Well, you can tell from his statements that the USA have not exactly sent their best man to be "ambassador" in this Serb province. People like him should be removed at the earliest opportunity.
(Tony (a Brit in Berlin), 29 January 2016 18:28)

Now Now tony the spit, that was a
childish like comment, a Serbian province wouldn't be allowed an ambassador as there is one already in Belgrade? I have yet to hear of a country that has provinces with 2 ambassadors???
Grow up, or at least practice at acting it!

John Sheldon

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is part of Serbia, doesn't matter of name of Empire support terrorist from Kosovo! Yesterday it was Turkey, today-USA, but we will stay on OUR OWN LAND ! We will never recognize results of ethnic leansing made by USA and kosovo terrorists !

Danilo

pre 8 godina

You recognize Puerto Rico first and than we will talk, oh wait, yankee doodles wouldn't give up part 'of their sovereign land'.
(makeyouadeal, 30 January 2016 13:50)

Why do some people always try to make stupid comparisons with the USA?

Puerto Rico isn't seeking independence - in 2012, they had a referendum where 65% voted to become a US state and 4% voted for independence. Mexicans in Texas aren't seeking independence. Mexico doesn't want California back. None of these invented red hearings have anything to do with Kosovo

Zoran P.. Sydney

pre 8 godina

when Serbia held Kosovo there was 1% of refugees from Kosova in Europe, when they got Independence there are 30% refugees from Kosova in Europe second highest after Syria. Proves that mafia can't run a country

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

...P's give Alaska back to the original owners (Russian's).
(sasa.p, 29 January 2016 17:53)...

The original owners sold Alaska to Americans for 7.2 million $.
Secondly I don't think that people of Alaska want to join Russia.

Check the history books don't read only chetnik propaganda.

Thirdly,
US ambassador speaks for USA officially, the same stance had USA ambassador in Belgrade Mr Kirby and the same will have the new USA ambassador that will come next month.

rote

pre 8 godina

Paul : The US bought Alaska from Imperial Russia which the Czar sold to pay off gambling debts.

I’ve studied the issue well enough and still I have no answer why exactly it was formally sold. So how can you insist on something you don’t know. What if I tell you that the millions of the Indians killed in America were Russians. What if I tell you that the US could not appear and win all those internal and external wars on the continent without Russia’s direct involvement ? What if I tell you that the US FED belongs to Russia (88,2%) and China (11,2%) ? ect.ect.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To an American in Nis,
From a Aussie in Jagodina, he his not stupid.The hand that feeds you, you don't bite it!. Shqiptars give him extra racket money and he speak's in their interest.
I bet you if the native Americans (Indians) have him money,he would ask for Yellow stone Park to be their country, aswell Mexican's wanting Texas seperate country.He is FOR SALE!.
P's give Alaska back to the original owners (Russian's).

boom

pre 8 godina

We have been so vociferous in this forum treating albanians as being all criminals. Maybe it is time we cleaned in front of our door first.
Interpol is out with their most wanted list and out of 45 most wanted criminals, seven are serbs, one from kosovo and none from albania. That is a huge number given our population.
Time to take care of our business instead and improving our economy, albanians are progressing faster.
https://eumostwanted.eu/fr

tom

pre 8 godina

well the world hopes that USA recognises Texas, new Mexico , California and other Mexican states to have their independence.....and if want to rejoin Mexico.....

Ziggy

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is named after the blackbird in Serbian not in Gheg,or Tosk (Albanian) dialects for those who are educationally challenged. This is the deliberate stealing of Serbian territory by NATO facist states solely to keep the Albanian population from leaving for a better life in Western Europe. It has failed it has turned Kosovo into a mafia fiefdom and young Albanians are leaving in their droves by obtaining Serbian travel documents to aid travel and to spuriously apply for asylum in Germany. Tell me who has got rich in Kosovo province, yes the KLA hieracy and Thaci and his chums. Kosovo is a de-facto part of Albania in all but name and the Americans should hang their heads in shame, they are the great Satan indeed.88

Tony (a Brit in Berlin)

pre 8 godina

To Rocky the internet troll: I placed the word ambassador in quotation marks because Kosovo is not universally recognized as an independent country. And for your information it never will.

kosovofieldsserbian4ever

pre 8 godina

"Albanians and Greece people are the only people in modern Balkan who can say that the land we live on is rightfuly ours."

LOL. Only Neanderthals can say that, NOT you.

IvanPN

pre 8 godina

'high Demi' (sorry but are you high?, if not then just hi)

I deny your opinion, as do many other people that can type and read. Could you please type into google 'timeline of Albanian history' and in another tab 'timeline of Serbian history'.
For those who can't be bothered,
1190 the principality of Arber was created
1200 local Albanian noble families began to emerge.
(10 years to become noble? ;(.

620 a first wave of Serbs migrated to Serbia,
780 viseslav of Serbia, the first Serbia ruler known by name.


Demi----FAIL

Serbs took Kosovo territory from the Greeks,historically.

600 years my ancestors put up with Islam, and still they didn't bow.
Yet apparently there was a mass bowing (what is the bowing for BTW) in Albania in 1700.

Velika Albania, sounds more like velika bullsh*t.

BTW, when the US turns from being passive aggressive to just aggressive, well,like we say in OZ, its all down hill from here. By 2020, the territory re occupied by Serb majority in KiM will look like a big wedge pointing south, the political flanks will be ready

Knock knock, hello Pristina:)

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To Demi,
Prove it,that Shqiptars in the Balkans have been their more then 300 year's,by either a religious(church,etc) or culture object's.
To Theodor Muzaka,
I thought the Russian's can take note from you Shqiptars ,and break the agreement they signed in the Late 1800's, like you trying to break resolution 1244 . If you (Shqiptars) can't honour the agreement you sign in 1999 ,resolution 1244.Why should any other country ,honour any contract's they sign!.
As they say,take a leaf out of you in contracts, or always Tie a Shqiptar to a leg of a table when a hand is shaken on an agreement!!.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To Demi and cry me a River,
Give me a church,temple etc to prove that you where there 3000 years!
Give me any objects ot buildings older than 1200 years ,that you where there longer than Serbia.You can't ,because Shqiptars come from ADANA State and around Turkey.
I don't need a look around,because ,I been around the Balkans and see NO object or existence from Shqiptars longer then 150 years!!!.And that is a fact!.

icj1

pre 8 godina

If you (Shqiptars) can't honour the agreement you sign in 1999 ,resolution 1244.
(sasa.p, 30 January 2016 10:41)

First of all, UNSCR 1244 is mandatory for everybody, whether they like it or not. It's not a matter of signature.

Second, Kosovo declared independence in accordance with UNSCR 1244, so they did honor it

So, I have no idea what you are talking about, dear!
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Why should any other country ,honour any contract's they sign!.
(sasa.p, 30 January 2016 10:41)

Note that you are comparing Kosovo to the rest of the countries which means that you are considering Kosovo to be a... country :)

Blind Profet

pre 8 godina

The ZSO will act in accordance to the Brussels agreement and UN resolution 1244 which formed the basis. Serbia and Kosovo Serbs do not recognize any edict from the "Kosovo Constitution Court" and it can be argued that it is unconstitutional as Kosovo is not a UN member and not fully recognized as a Country.
(Jugoslavija, 29 January 2016 17:10)

If they do not care for Kosovo constitution why then they agreed to have the agreement as per Kosovo law? it is a bit oxymoronic when in one had you agree to the law of Kosovo but on the other you do not recognise it!

Why Serbs from Kosovo do not just act if they do not care for its constitution, then they should not care for Kosovo parliament and just create ZSO.

Well pre-election campaign mumble of Vucic must have you all excited, the road for ZSO is long and it is agreed that Kosovo constitutional court will review the mandate after its been writen not sure how can you not accept the same thing will review it.

Donkey Hoxha

pre 8 godina

Albanians and Greece people are the only people in modern Balkan who can say that the land we live on is rightfuly ours.
(Demi, 29 January 2016 22:37)

And isn't it interesting how native Greeks have been part of the region's history for 3,000 years while Albanians have been nothing but a footnote? Isn't it also interesting how all these Slavic "invaders" all achieved great medieval civilizations at least once? Bulgaria had two empires, Serbia had a kingdom and an empire, heck even Bosnia had a kingdom once too! Even the Turks who were clear invaders had an empire! What major historical contributions have Albanians ever produced? You guys were the last to form a country, and you spent years under communism as repressive and as totalitarian as North Korea.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

According to Albanian language daily Zeri, published in Pristina, Delawie also said - in reference to the Serb entity in Bosnia - that "nobody, including the U.S., wants to see a Serb Republic in Kosovo," and that the future Community of Serb Municipalities "will act in accordance with the instructions of the Kosovo Constitutional Court."

The ZSO will act in accordance to the Brussels agreement and UN resolution 1244 which formed the basis. Serbia and Kosovo Serbs do not recognize any edict from the "Kosovo Constitution Court" and it can be argued that it is unconstitutional as Kosovo is not a UN member and not fully recognized as a Country.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To icj1,
Don't you get it!,
He gets paid from the RACKET money(drug,arms(guns,weapons),Prostitutions etc) from the Mafia leaders and its not Billion's!!.
Surely they have an extra 300k to give him,to get him to sing like a canary ,how great is Pristina.
You are Dumb, country's can be broke ,with normal 90% population suffering in poverty, while the rest top level have money and live like king's. Do you get it now.!!
P's it doesn't Suit you to comment like you are clever, or cute comments!.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Shqiptars give him extra racket money and he speak's in their interest.
(sasa.p, 29 January 2016 17:53)

The above is not correct because according to the CE of B92 forums sj the Shqiptars are broke! You need to pay more attention to his/her teachings.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 30 January 2016 02:24)

You are Dumb, country's can be broke ,with normal 90% population suffering in poverty, while the rest top level have money and live like king's. Do you get it now.!!
P's it doesn't Suit you to comment like you are clever, or cute comments!.
(sasa.p, 30 January 2016 18:30)

Well, there is nothing for me to get - I just quoted the CE of B92 forums sj. It is unacceptable however for you to call "dumb" the brilliant analysis of the CE of B92 forums sj who has dedicated his/her life to providing members of these forums with the best economic and financial analysis ever.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 8 godina

Demi said:

Albanians are the native people of the Balkans and Kosova, western Macedonia, southern Montenegro and northern Greece are all Albanian land where Albanians are an majority.
===…==

Prove it.
(Peggy, 29 January 2016 23:12)

Don't worry, dear! Our dear friend Demi is going to fail as miserably as the Serbs in that endeavor :)

factman

pre 8 godina

The first attempts were to militarily force recognition.

After that came a period of veiled threats

This was followed by a period where trickery was used.

Then followed a period of coercion and pressure.

Next came a period where they decided to "wait"

Now comes a period of hope

Anyone notice a trend here?

icj1

pre 8 godina

The first attempts were to militarily force recognition.

After that came a period of veiled threats

This was followed by a period where trickery was used.

Then followed a period of coercion and pressure.

Next came a period where they decided to "wait"

Now comes a period of hope

Anyone notice a trend here?
(factman, 30 January 2016 02:24)

Absolutely; the trend is obvious... Kosovo went from being recognized by 0 countries to 110+ today.

Mick Rooney

pre 8 godina

Greg, there is more hope in Bob Hope of that happening. Honestly, in general, i would reccommend worrying about FYR Macedonia, and Kosovo. It seems that the spoilt children you placed in power are going to throw a tantrum.

In 1878 the KAlbanian extremists did not hesitate to kill the Turkish administrator for failing to deliver independence. Therefore, EULEX, US beware of rumbling antagonisms by the men watching Haradinaj and Kurti!

History is going to repeat...

icj1

pre 8 godina

when Serbia held Kosovo there was 1% of refugees from Kosova in Europe, when they got Independence there are 30% refugees from Kosova in Europe second highest after Syria. Proves that mafia can't run a country
(Zoran P.. Sydney, 30 January 2016 23:15)

when Turkey held Serbia you could not find any emigrants from Serbia in the US, when they got Independence there are thousands of emigrants from Serbia in the US. Proves that mafia can't run a country :)

sj

pre 8 godina

(Gjon Marku, 1 February 2016 10:43)

I hate to break the news to you but Thaci was a well-known criminal that was involved in drug and human trafficking and other criminal activities. I also know that the west has been diligent in trying to hide Thaci’s background because it would not be a good look for the western world to see what the US has appointed as PM of Kosovo.
Thaci was involved in killing the 40 Albanian villagers which the CIA field officer, William Walker, confirmed it was done by the Serbs.
The list you provide is all crap and I am surprised that I am not on it. The Interpol of pre 1990 and Interpol of today are two different things. Interpol is no longer looked as an impartial or trusted organisation by a large number of countries. You only had to see in cases where Belgrade’s arrest warrants for 2 Albanians were ignored by Interpol because they were protected by democracy and freedom.
You want proof? Then show me proof that those people on your list are guilty and I don’t mean from Interpol or the US proof.
I liked Milosevic and do not blame him for anything so don’t hold your breath waiting for the apology or any reparations mate.

Paul

pre 8 godina

The US has never stolen any land from anyone, unless you want to count the colonial powers against which it declared a revolution and from which it took the lands they stole from the native Americans.

The offense in history that the US has against the natives is in broken treaties. But the natives were already doomed by the colonial powers long before the US was born, especially in South and Central America.

The US bought Alaska from Imperial Russia which the Czar sold to pay off gambling debts. If you want to find a villain, find out who collected the debts.

the truth

pre 8 godina

If you (Shqiptars) can't honour the agreement you sign in 1999 ,resolution 1244.Why should any other country ,honour any contract's they sign!.
As they say,take a leaf out of you in contracts, or always Tie a Shqiptar to a leg of a table when a hand is shaken on an agreement!!.
(sasa.p, 30 January 2016 10:41) # Comment link

With you Serbs is: damn if you do it, damn if you don't. When UNMIK was governing Kosova , you did not recognize UNMIK documents(ID and passport), meaning you did not recognize UNMIK. Once the Independence was declared and Kosova had its own ID and passport, you guys said that you recognize only UNMIK documents. Try to figure your own self out what you want !?

sj

pre 8 godina

Proves that massmurderers, warcriminals and rapist cant run a country.
(Gjon Marku, 31 January 2016 07:56)


Mustapha you’re going to pull it right off if you keep playing with yourself.

So now that your Albos are in charge it’s the Serbs fault that at first opportunity busloads of your brethren could not want to leave Albo heaven called Kosova.
Last time, I looked most of your so called politicians were at one time wanted as terrorist or criminals. Look at Thaci, until his conversion to democracy and human rights loving he was on Interpols most wanted list.

EU prisons are filled with Albanians. Ask the British authorities what they think of peace-loving Albanians, LOL.

Questioner

pre 8 godina

And I hope Kosovo will one day get decent politicians which are not either mafia bosses, war criminals or violent nationalist hooligans like has been the last 15-20 years. today a So everyone might express his hope, and maybe, in 1-2 generations, it will become reality?

Jovan

pre 8 godina

The "one and only global superpower" ( as some rather simple albanian stated a few years ago ) hopes...

Well, if the mighty empire hopes, my dear albanian friends, you should think it over again, I guess.

Otherwise you will be the ones swimming in the adriatic in the future...

sj

pre 8 godina

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 2 February 2016 15:10)

Our resident Albanian Idiot has used its usual form of learned response – cut and past again, eh. Not enough grey cells for original comment, LOL. Keep it up we can never have enough AI stupidity.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

"Why is this court necessary? I have been here (Pristina) since August of last year and so far I have seen several examples of what people do here with impunity. It seems that some people convicted of war crimes come and go to prison as they wish, that they go to Sweden and other countries when they wish," he remarked.

Nice to read those words from an US ambassador. That happens when you have a mafia state where former war criminals and mafia bosses play politicians.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Shqiptars give him extra racket money and he speak's in their interest.
(sasa.p, 29 January 2016 17:53)

The above is not correct because according to the CE of B92 forums sj the Shqiptars are broke! You need to pay more attention to his/her teachings.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

ivan

pre 8 godina

Serbia should never recognize Kosovo. Just sit back and wait for the right opportunity to retake what is rightfully hers. When the time is ripe, the last thing that Serbia would want is to be intertwined in legalities. This way, they never recognized the illegal amputation of their territory, they just want to claim what belongs to them. It will just require some tactical political manoeuvering until the inevitable.

icj1

pre 8 godina

'icj1' actually the independence of Kosovo was not envisioned by the document which was signed under duress UNSCR 1244, its roots are more like belonging to the Helsinki or Ahtisaari. Under the guise of the Kosovo status process.
(IvanPN, 31 January 2016 02:10)

Of course. And I did not say anywhere that UNSCR 1244 envisions any particular status for Kosovo. Not sure why you quoted me :)
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But point 8 in summary of 1244, I'm sure you will agree is the gravest of all where the resolution failed
" require the UN to assure the safe and UNIMPEDED return of all refugees and displaced persons to their homes in Kosovo and to ensure conditions for a peaceful and a normal life for ALL inhabitants of the province"
(IvanPN, 31 January 2016 02:10)

Well, if it has failed, it is not because of UNSCR 1244's fault. You can't force people to return to an area which has a GDP per capita 30% lower than where they live now.

sj

pre 8 godina

Well, there is nothing for me to get - I just quoted the CE of B92 forums sj. It is unacceptable however for you to call "dumb" the brilliant analysis of the CE of B92 forums sj who has dedicated his/her life to providing members of these forums with the best economic and financial analysis ever.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 31 January 2016 01:40)

This what happens when the Albanian Idiot cannot put forth an opposing view and comes out with this nonsense, but it does love its P.S. LOL.
This only indicates its debating skills are challenged, to say the least, and uses the same lines over and over again thinking its smart when it only makes it look linguistically inept.

sj

pre 8 godina

Woow! I would have never expected you to label as "nonsense" the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj!!!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 1 February 2016 16:08)

Is this the best you can do? This is the writing style of a 6 year old who tries to turn a situation against an opponent using his/her words.

sj

pre 8 godina

(Danilo, 2 February 2016 19:11)

I believe that 8800 bodies were found, but they were not from Srebrenica. It became obvious in the early days that something big had to occur to force the Serbs to the negotiating table.
Robert Baer, a former CIA officer:
When asked about Srebrenica, Baer said that from 1992 he had been in Bosnia again. This time, he said, they trained military units representing Bosnia, the new state which only just had declared its independence. Srebrenica is an exaggerated story, he said, many people have been manipulated by it. He said the numbers of people killed were part of political marketing.
This is one of your allies mate not a Serb.
Now who is going to be accountable for murdering those 19 in Afghanistan?

IvanPN

pre 8 godina

'cry me a river' its surprising but when you look hard enough its the Albanians who called themselves shqiptars ( circa 17th cen.) so I'm not sure why you jumped into that one.
If you meant to say illyrians, then try your luck? I'll wait for that one too.

'icj1' actually the independence of Kosovo was not envisioned by the document which was signed under duress UNSCR 1244, its roots are more like belonging to the Helsinki or Ahtisaari. Under the guise of the Kosovo status process.

But point 8 in summary of 1244, I'm sure you will agree is the gravest of all where the resolution failed
" require the UN to assure the safe and UNIMPEDED return of all refugees and displaced persons to their homes in Kosovo and to ensure conditions for a peaceful and a normal life for ALL inhabitants of the province"

My personal opinion, the situation has gone too far to be peacefully resolved. The ZSO will not be enough. It is highly likely that Albania and Kosovo will unite, and then they will begin to claim other parts of Serbia. I still can't work out if part of Macedonia and Montenegro go before the great war breaks out. When it gets to this point the force which is providing all the legal framework will be apparent. Is it the Austrians who hate us like hitzer the Jews, or is it that super power with inferiority issues.
Or maybe its the maid with the broom in the closet. Who ever it is, we the people are the ones who will have to once again do the dirtier work :(

Gjon Marku

pre 8 godina

(sj, 1 February 2016 09:36)

First of all, I dont like Thaci either but he was never wanted by Interpol unlike 17 Pending red notice from Interpol for Serbs right now!http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/interpol-seeks-arrest-of-17-yugoslav-fighters-for-kosovo-crimes

Momir Stojanovic,ruling party MP
Nikola Micunovic, the former head of the Djakovica Military Department
Momcilo Stijovic, a former police officer
Momcilo, Milutin and Miladin Novakovic, also former police officers
Muharem Ibraj, a former police commander
Sreten Camovic, a former state security officer
Dimitrije Rasovic, a former police inspector

and a series of other Serb fighters: father and son Dragan and Aleksandar Pekovic, Zivko Vuksanovic, Miras Gegovic, Predrag Stojanovic, Miso Popovic, Lazar Draskovic and Zoran Mirkovic

Second, most of our politician? Really? Name one and show proof.

I know you all say it was Milosevic`s fault and you claim stuff without any sources, but truth is, he had your full support. Milosevic is your identity and will remain so until an official apology and reparations. Just like Nazi Germany.

IvanPN

pre 8 godina

@icj1..your memory must be slipping " they declared independence in accordance in with UNSCR 1244"

Due to the false statement, they actually DIS-honour it.

Point 10 in the summary. No matter how many times I read it, the word independence is not there.
-status, three times.
-compliance of the disputing parties, once for each
-substantial autonomy, once for each.

BTW, point 8, the UN failed. Displaced citizens do not want to return to their homes due to fear from Kalbs.

Gjon Marku

pre 8 godina

Then show me proof that those people on your list are guilty and I don’t mean from Interpol or the US proof.
I liked Milosevic and do not blame him for anything so don’t hold your breath waiting for the apology or any reparations mate.
(sj, 1 February 2016 12:49

Here is the proof. Dosije „Operacija Reka“ by Fond za humanitarno pravo in Beograd. http://www.hlc-rdc.org/?p=30521

There is even a documentary directed by Ognjen Glavonić coming out. It will be displayed at the Berlinale 2016. https://www.facebook.com/ognjen.glavonic/posts/10153834118438638

If you don`t believe Interpol, even though you thought its a good idea to name interpol concerning Thaci but then all of a sudden you dont like interpol anymore because you shot your self in the foos, then here is a source from Beograd.

Actually I`m happy you said that you liked Milosevic because now I know that your own people hate you probably just as much as I do.

Well I linked plenty of proof and I`m not talking about alligations but a report with hundreds of victims, testimonies from Kosovo and Serbia and a Massgrave in Batajnica Military Base near Beograd. Now where is the proof of your claims? Oh yea, you don`t have any because you are just a little liar.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Yes, 110 out of 193 UN member states recognized Kosovo. But talking about the trend: With 1 recognition in 2015, how long will it take until the disputed territory of Kosovo ([link]) will become a country like 193 others on the world?
(Questioner, 1 February 2016 10:48)

Well, Kosovo is already a country for those 110 so not sure what your question means :)

icj1

pre 8 godina

Well, there is nothing for me to get - I just quoted the CE of B92 forums sj. It is unacceptable however for you to call "dumb" the brilliant analysis of the CE of B92 forums sj who has dedicated his/her life to providing members of these forums with the best economic and financial analysis ever.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 31 January 2016 01:40)

This what happens when the Albanian Idiot cannot put forth an opposing view and comes out with this nonsense
(sj, 1 February 2016 13:22)

Woow! I would have never expected you to label as "nonsense" the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj!!!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 8 godina

Point 10 in the summary. No matter how many times I read it, the word independence is not there.
(IvanPN, 1 February 2016 11:58)

Exactly, there is nothing there that forbids the independence so independence is in accordance with UNSCR 1244. Thanks for providing the evidence that proves my point :)

sj

pre 8 godina

(Gjon Marku, 1 February 2016 14:44)
I do not trust any humanitarian group because they are funded by the west.
Because the Serbs do not give in easily, the west is obsessed with proving to the world they were right to intervene in Kosovo because of a humanitarian crises, but when it came to real one, such as Rhwanda, they turned a blind eye. The Serbs are not stupid people unlike the Americans and they cannot bring them to yield so we get these very interesting tales such as Srebrenica and then these documentaries. But alas it’s all to no avail because we do not give a cracker about them.
When they bring to trial and imprison the people involved in a recent bombing of the Afghan hospital where 19 Doctors without Borders employees were killed. When they bring to trial and imprison the people who knowingly killed in the street of Bagdad in July 2007 from a helicopter then come back knocking on my door about justice.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

To Gjon Marku,
A communist Milosevic ran the country ,and didn't even give no properties back to the Serb Royalty family. He (Milosevic), and his cronies where against the Serbian Royalty family!. So stop calling the Commo's Chetniks!.I don't think you would be happy calling ,your KLA , Ballista or Balli Kombetar the Nazi's!.
Don't confuse Communist, with Royalty Chetnik's! Zoran is right,if their your Master (owner)"Brussels ", allows your Shqiptars holiday visas,then the Serb's would be the majority in KiM,your Shqiptar population, would be running for EU and Switzerland.
P's like you left Pristina,and didn't go back to leave in NATO Paradise again.When you go back to leave in Pristina permanently, then comment!

this

pre 8 godina

I think it's high time that in the name of all Slavs, Serbs claim back their ancient SLAVIC lands in Austria taken by the Swabians separating Slavs into North and South! So many Slavs living in Austria forcefully for years speaking that annoying and ugly German language when they should be speaking their beautiful Slavic language on their ancient Slavic land!

Comm. Parrisson

pre 8 godina

Well, if it has failed, it is not because of UNSCR 1244's fault. You can't force people to return to an area which has a GDP per capita 30% lower than where they live now.
(icj1, 31 January 2016 17:34)

And the few dozens mostly elderly persons that really returned to their homes and places they were living their whole live, you can intimidate with hand grenades thrown at their houses, stones https://xs4.b92.net/w2/index.php?lang=english&whereto=comments&to_class=%27News_New%27&news_dd=01&news_mm=02&news_yyyy=2016&page=1&action=all_unreviewedthrown through the windows and on their cars, and some more little 'incidents', all done by 'playing kids' of course (quoting the KPS spokesperson)? This you call UNIMPEDED return? Funny guy, you.

Questioner

pre 8 godina

Absolutely; the trend is obvious... Kosovo went from being recognized by 0 countries to 110+ today.
(icj1, 31 January 2016 01:33)

Yes, 110 out of 193 UN member states recognized Kosovo. But talking about the trend: With 1 recognition in 2015, how long will it take until the disputed territory of Kosovo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territorial_disputes#Disputes_between_UN-recognized_states_and_others) will become a country like 193 others on the world? Or to see it in a broader range, look at the trend from 2011 to 2015 (13, 12, 8, 5 and 1 recognitions), and draw your conclusions

icj1

pre 8 godina

Well, there is nothing for me to get - I just quoted the CE of B92 forums sj. It is unacceptable however for you to call "dumb" the brilliant analysis of the CE of B92 forums sj who has dedicated his/her life to providing members of these forums with the best economic and financial analysis ever.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 31 January 2016 01:40)

This what happens when the Albanian Idiot cannot put forth an opposing view and comes out with this nonsense
(sj, 1 February 2016 13:22)

Woow! I would have never expected you to label as "nonsense" the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj!!!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

factman

pre 8 godina

Milosevic is dead.

Here are 31 articles from major western newspapers which document the behaviors in Kosovo which eventually led to war - before Milosevic ever came to power.

Very easy to blame Milosevic -- The facts say otherwise.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Link for the below comment documenting 31 articles from major western new sources:

[link]
(factman, 3 February 2016 04:24)

Good Post, you can see how the funds from the Yugoslav development fund was being abused by Kosovo Albanians and forced deportation of Serbians from the autonomous province particularly after Tito's death. It is the exactly the same situation now, this time EU is dumping money into the black hole of KLA corruption.

delon

pre 8 godina

@ peggy
https://books.google.gr/books?id=XFtbEd1ojBsC&pg=RA1-PA90&dq=macedonian+hellenic+language+%22paleo+balkan%22&hl=el&sa=X&ei=x7srUqHdOITZsgbInIGwCQ#v=onepage&q=macedonian%20hellenic%20language%20%22paleo%20balkan%22&f=false

factman

pre 8 godina

Link for the below comment documenting 31 articles from major western new sources:

http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/benworks/1980news.html

icj1

pre 8 godina

Is this the best you can do? This is the writing style of a 6 year old who tries to turn a situation against an opponent using his/her words.
(sj, 2 February 2016 07:52)

Well, I can't ignore the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj... that would be a sacrilege! And, btw, I'm sure he/she is more than 6 years old which is why I refer to his/her teachings :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 8 godina

I do not trust any humanitarian group because they are funded by the west.
(sj, 2 February 2016 09:54)

That is impossible because according to the CE of B92 forums sj, the West has collapsed and run out of cash!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Danilo

pre 8 godina

(sj, 2 February 2016 09:54)

Isn't that awfully cute? 8800 bodies were found buried in various mass graves connected to the Srebrenica massacre.

Your standards for examining this proof? Preconditions are that they solve a supposed crime in Afghanistan, them "knock on your door"

You're a funny guy, man :)