Wednesday, 06.01.2016.
12:56
Displaced Serbs from Djakovica, a town in Kosovo, have visited a Serbian Orthodox church there on Orthodox Christmas Eve.
Izvor: Tanjug
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This spirit of darkness is at the heart of Islam and the people following its precepts do not even question the authenticity of a luciferic ideology that they are Told not to question over the fear of death or worse...Not to care or listen to anything that does not agree with a founder who was definitely not at all a holy man much less a man with morals.It's a great job of brainwashing though.
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Pictures r worth a thousand words. These people look like Albanians only difference is that Udis are Eastern Orthodox and Albanians are muslim.
There's even a Hashim Thachi lookalike @1:44 and at the end they dance like Albanians. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw8f5DxXBgA
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Udi man singing. Wow, same accent as Albanians from Kosovo. Same singing style too. I can see the connection. Looks are similar too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZEG__XA4V4
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gjon,
it may have been few soldiers, who killed and estimated 30-40k... you cry over internationally estinmated 5k... simple maths ellude you... order of magnitude more killing by your great unlces and grandfathers... note that afterwards, those estimated 6500 weren't handed over by kosovars, but you cry that serbia hasn't handed their evil doers over.
dismiss yourself please. you show only biased, ill formed arguments that flail around like a wet paper-towel.
the number of people who perpetrate a crime does not diminish the crime. the severity of the crime is what is key.
it was 1 man, just 1 a single man who pressed the button to drop fat man, and one 1 pressed the button to drop little boy. these two men, are each responsible for the vaporization of hundreds of thousands each. is this less of a travesty because it was one man. no!.
so, i don't care if you and your bravery alone cleansed the estimated 250,000 serbs from kosova since 90s, or if it took all 2 million of you and your friends to do it. in the end the estimated 1/4 million serbs were expelled.
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You are dismissed. Next!
(Gjon Marku, 8 January 2016 17:28)
Yes, lobla did a fine job proving there was Nazi collaboration among Albanians of Kosovo, which was annexed to Albania after the Nazi invasion of Yugoslavia in 1941, proving Albanians benefited from the invasion. You can mention all you want about Jews in Tirana being protected, but you can't deny Jews of Kosovo, as well as most other non-Albanians, were deported to death camps because Albanians there worked well with the Germans.
No need to dismiss factual evidence because you're trying to sound snarky. You've already proved your inability to accept objective evidence with you need for a comeback :)
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there is no difference between displaced pensioners and paramilitaries. Even if it wasnt them directly, they have oncles, sons, daughters who joined the paramilitaries. We lived in peace for centuries and over night they turned on us. People know them. Their faces, their names.
(Gjon Marku, 7 January 2016 08:12)
So you just admitted in the same sentence it doesn't matter if their pensioners or paramilitaries because you have a collective anger towards everyone. Which means not only are you incapable of separating the wars of the 90s with the peace of the 2010s, you're also too lazy and disinterested to do so because of your preset beliefs that seem to be more important in preserving. By your own logic, any Serb has the right to throw everything from apples to zucchini at any Albanian they see because of the possibility they either might have been part of the KLA, have relatives in the KLA, or simply have KLA sympathies.
And then you wonder in a previous article why Serbia seems to be incapable of facilitating good relations with neighboring states, when people like you in neighboring states (or people like you who write in the name of neighboring states) give them no reason to do so.
At the end, you're less the victim I'm supposed to feel sorry for than just an angry peasant upset that your ethnically pure town - a town you also admitted was rebuilt and gets on with its life - was besieged by two buses of pilgrims for one f*cking afternoon.
Poor little you.
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lobla
Didnt I already said there was one group of about 6500 soldiers (ss skanderbeg). Your links only proves what I said.
I knew you would use google and all you would find is SS Skanderbeg, you fell for the bait. You herby lose the right to sit on the grown ups table because you failed to deliver the required proof and for the use of biased serb sources only.
You are dismissed. Next!
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RE; Turkish Albanian Dagestan Gypsies
The Caucasian Albanians (also spelled as Alban, Aghvan, Aghban, and Alpan) were a nation, which, according to the ancient geographer Strabo, consisted of 26 tribes, ethnic groups, such as Albans themselves, as well as Gargars, Udis, etc. Some of them were of Turkic descent, while majority were indigenous authohontous Caucasian tribes, speaking in Caucasian languages.
In addition, Herodotus in his "History" when describing the right side of Araxes river (Media/Iran) mentiones Abars (who eventually became Avars) and Bashigirhihi (today's Bashkirs). This proves that there were Turkic people in South Azerbaijan as well, albeit probably Iranian-speaking.http://www.zerbaijan.com/albania/caucasian-albania.html
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gjon,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21st_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Skanderbeg
http://www.axishistory.com/axis-nations/119-germany-waffen-ss/germany-waffen-ss-divisions/1306-21-ss-waffen-gebirgs-division-der-ss-skanderbeg-albanische-nr-1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_persecution_of_Serbs
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/08/27/kosovo-americas-nazi-colony/
challenge complete with a bonus. not 1 serb sourced article. 1 american sourced one. i don't have all day to teach you your history, so please take these as a starting point.
what benny nuttywho-who says is oh so unimportant to this topic, these words coming from the man who cries holocaust-holocaust and brings down the a holocaust on the palestinians (but thats very far off topic). fine. albanians saved jews, but happily slaughtered serbs and roma, and deny this fact, just as you are.
seriously how hard was it for you to use google? how hard is it for you to accept these facts. you scream from the top of the world about serb this serb that, evil, evil, evil, not since nazis etc. but conveniently forget, whitewash and sweep away what your grandpappys, and greatuncles did.
while you lie to yourself, you'll never be at peace.
no denying serbs did plenty awful to some: that is fact. but you deny fact with your last breath... for shame!!!
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(Jugoslavija, 7 January 2016 17:16)
I will not have any prob. descending from these "antique" christian people my dear Jugo. You know all the humans came from somewhere!
But, i actually the Caucasian Albania is one name given to the region from Romans, which mean "the white" Caucasian, referring to the white people in that region. You know Albanians - mean "the whites". You know Serbians - in latin mean "the servants".
Unfortunately those lovely christian people have nothing to do with us, neither in dna or language - they are more close to slavs (Russians, Ukrainians..).
Albanian language is an Indo european language with similarity in Germanic and Balltic languages - so if ever Albanians will ever came from somewhere will be just from these regions.
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Sure Albanians are harassing Serbs, that's 'cause they want MORE. Crazy crazy people!
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RE: Nuremburg Trials and Albanian Nazi's
World War II began in 1939 when Germany invaded Poland. Over the next few years, the European Axis powers (Germany, Italy, Albania, Bulgaria, Hungary, and Romania) successfully invaded and occupied France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Denmark, Norway, Greece, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Finland, and the Netherlands. But when Adolf Hitler's troops invaded the Soviet Union, the Nazi war machine stalled. By the end of the war, the Axis powers were battered and beleaguered, and in 1945 they unconditionally surrendered to the United States, the Soviet Union, Great Britain, and France (the four Allied powers).http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Nuremberg+Trials
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@ Jugoslavia
Muaaahahaaaa
The only thing to do now is to relate the roma people with Romans and Rome.
Just try and for sure you will find something. :)
O please check even about Serbs, you will find interesting things.
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RE; Albanians declaration of war against US-Nazi Axis
Albanians were part of the Axis of Evil with the Nazi's and declared war on the US as did Croatia, Romania and Hungary. Serbia never declared war on the US under the Nedic regime.
What Albania did do is dispose of King Zog, attacked Greece along with Albania and were trounced. Finally, Germany stepped in and then the Albanians ally was given parts of Yugoslavia as a loyal ally. Albanians committed mass attrocities against the non-Albanians population of Serbs , Jews and Gypsies in Kosovo.
14 December 1941 – Croatia declared war on the United States of America and Great Britain.
16 December 1941 – Czechoslovak government in exile declares war on all countries at war with the United States of America, Great Britain and the Soviet Union.
17 December 1941 – Albania declared war on the United States of America.http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Declarations_of_War_during_World_War_II
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lobla
This is a blatant lie.
I challenge you to find any article or prove that Albanians supported Nazis. There was only ONE group of about 6500 Soldiers. The majority fought nazionalism and faschism just like the rest of Europe. Why do you think is it that Israel support Albanians?! It was Albanians, specially in the mountains that protected Jews even though surrounded by Italian faschist and German nazis.
Albanians received (almost 3x more than serbs) certificates "The Righteous Among The Nations" from Israel for the protection of jews during holocaust. http://www.yadvashem.org/yv/en/righteous/index.asp#!prettyPhoto
See Statement of Benjamin Netanyahu about Albania http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Netanyahu-to-Albanian-PM-Our-friendship-goes-back-to-Albania-protecting-Jews-from-Nazis-437943
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RE: Albanian Gypsies from Kurdestan and Azerbaijan
Learn your own history.
Part of what is now Mountainous Karabagh and part of the Mil plain formed the historical province of Karabagh-Artsakh, which was one of the most important provinces in Caucasian Albania, the earliest state in Northern Azerbaijan. http://www.visions.az/history,93/
Meet Udis, ancient Albanians descendants
http://www.azernews.az/travel/67756.html
Udins - the ancient tribe who live primarily in Azerbaijan, are the descendants of the Caucasian Albanians. http://chai-khana.org/en/udins-the-descendants-of-albanians
Albanians are Kurds!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW7nLEBElZU
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@VladoChicago:
Your buddies are generalizing or appear to be generalizing about Albanians and what they are doing is wrong.I admit I dealt with some Albanian b92 viewers who offended me or irritated me but that doesn't mean that I'm going to blame all Albanians for the actions of a few just like I'm certain that your Bulgarian,Croat,Greek,Macedonian,Montenegrin,Rumanian & Serbian pals wouldn't appreciate it if someone negatively generalizes about their compatriots.
Finally when you claim that these friends of yours despise Albanians do they even despise Albanian Catholics & Orthodox Christians or only the Muslims they despise since most Albanians are regarded as Muslims.Like I indicated not all Albanians are troublemakers.
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gjon, i think serbs get it. i think they get it more than you think you do.
see, from the outside, armed with some background history everything you are saying about how serbs terrorized albanians, murdered them, organized to slaughter them is exactly the same thing albanians did to serbs while they were allied with the nazis.
just like you will never forget about those uncles and brothers and sons of some serbs that killed albanians, serbs haven't forgotten those albanian uncles and brothers and sons who took part to slaughter, what is unfortunate for your argument, an order of magnitude more serbs in ww2 than serbs did to albanians in 90s. this is totals, not percentages, which would be even higher, but thats less relevant.
overall, if peace is what people want, then peace is what people need to create. if people do not want peace, if people do not want to reconcile, if people wish to continue to point fingers, then peace will not come. without a proper peace war is always looming around the corner, in all parts of the world, not specifically the tinderbox that is the balkans.
so the trepidations and fears and hatreds you're displaying towards serbs is what serbs felt from ww2 onwards within kosovo, and the 40 years following ww2, many left, and many claimed economics, but some claimed fear as their reasons, fear that they would not be safe as the demographics of the region shifted dramatically (by all accounts, not just titos).
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@ Italian Serbophile
Not really, all they have to do is read your comments, then they'll definitely get an accurate picture into their IQ levels
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There were over 13,000 Serb homes and only 26 Albanian homes in the 14th century according to the Ottoman catacombs and census. As soon as the Albanian Gypsies migrated from Kurdestan and Azerbaijan they started the campaign of genocide and ethnic cleansing against all Serbs leaving them with less than 3% in Kosovo today.
(Jugoslavija, 6 January 2016 23:41)
If your definition of X committing genocide against Y is that X's share of population increases while Y's decreases, then Serbs also committed genocide against the Romans, because Serbs' share of population increased from 0% to 99% from the 1st century to the 14th century, while the share of Roman population decreased at the same time!
With your definition of genocide we would find few ethnic groups, if any, that did not committ genocide at some point in history. I'm not saying your definition is wrong; just applying it consistently.
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It is not clear while archaelogists are still struggling so much to find out what was happening in primitive ages: they should just study a bit the albanian way-of-life to understand life in Prehistory...
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@ ( rote )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dq5NaRd73c
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@Jugolsavia
Oh dear, poor Serbs...suffering since the 14th century. hatred coming from Croats, Bosnians and Albanians. no wonder you people turn out paranoid, the same nonsense garbage has been drummed into you since before you're even conceived. this is why you have produced the second number of war criminals after Nazi Germany
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@ Jugoslavia
I have checked. I find a lot of interesting things about Albanians.
Actually i find just the migration of Serbs in Balcan. Why?
From where Serbs came from? Just curious.
Azerbaijani language actually is something between slavic - iranian - Turkic language. It can not be related with Albanians but most probably with slavic, Iranian, Turkish people.
I have check a lot and i find that Kurdish and Albanian have nothing in common. Then i checked their folk music, and i find an Albanian lovely music.
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I'm really not interested in the excuse you've concocted to justify your hostility while being too stupid to tell the difference between paramilitaries of the '90s and displaced pensioners and children you've never met today.
(Donkey Hoxha, 6 January 2016 19:16)
You dont get it do you. Serbs from Gjakova formed the paramilitaries, there is no difference between displaced pensioners and paramilitaries. Even if it wasnt them directly, they have oncles, sons, daughters who joined the paramilitaries. We lived in peace for centuries and over night they turned on us. People know them. Their faces, their names.
On top of that its the fault of your government because the crimes havent been prosecuted and all the murderers live now in peace in Serbia. Those protesters want justice, I want justice, and since your criminal government wont serve it, they will take it on everyone affiliated with them or with former paramilitary troops. The protest where right!! Maybe next time those "pilgrims" will ask their government for countability before they plan their next trip. If not, this will be the standard greeting. Unfortunately.
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Really? That's funny since it's Albanians who love to destroy historical monuments, mutilate their captives, depend on drug trafficking for money and have an overly exaggerated opinion of themselves and their history. If you're trying to provoke, you're going to have to be a little factual. Try not to sound like some angry little Borat who can only spit out slurs and insults. Besides, you're the ones provoking civilians in the article here.
(Talibania, 6 January 2016 16:45)
Really! That's funny since are Serbs who love to destroy historical monuments like the old city in Dubrovnik and the churches inside.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-mnp4IfjsM
That's funny since i saw a lot of mosques bombed and destroyed in Bosnia.
Even the Bosnian parliament you have bombed with people inside.
For not talking to the genocide, and the mass graves found all around Serbia.
That's funny since the monstrous crimes you have made in Kosovo are well documented, and the mass graves had Albanian victims not Serbian one.
You Serbs are really funny people. Amnesia is your friend when it convenient to you.
That's funny since buried in mass graves the bodies of your victims, why you don't decided to burn them like Nazi did?
See, ISIS is still behind you when it comes to the crimes. See, that's really funny.
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Hashim looks like a true Shquipe. Faces from West Asia. Why so many Kosovo Albanians look Armenian, Syrian and Lebanese? Because they came from over there...
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Of course Albanians are from Bakurê Kurdistanê! Their most common last name is Kurti! LOL
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Avni : “No bombs. Too bad.”
******* Не буди лиха пока оно тихо !
Amanaparts : “It is very unlikely that you will come back and even if you would... well, we`ll be there, waiting for you. As always.”
********* This time we’ll come together …
Rocky : “So bring your migs, your t-84s, your howitzers and your radical selves, let us play the tunes we have been playing for the last 1200 years ever since your unwelcomely arrival from the marsh lands of Rus!!!”
******* Is it an invitation ?
Rat – KO
****** What is your mother’s name you say ?
Ashtu de : “Could you please show to us what culture do you Serbs have? Piss: please let alone war crimes culture all the world already know it.”
******* If it weren’t a holyday I would explain what part of a toilet you are but you must be already guessing. It least your father should have told it to you.
From Russia with love !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGn8Dai9jWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jw0T-zzd5o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMyCgvc33F4
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RE: Albanian Gypsies from Kurdestan and Azerbaijan
Genocide committed against Serbs all across Kosovo under the noses of the so called western nations, EULEX, UNMIK , KFOR and the rest. Albanian KLA Terrorists continue to commit genocide against the Serb population. There were over 13,000 Serb homes and only 26 Albanian homes in the 14th century according to the Ottoman catacombs and census. As soon as the Albanian Gypsies migrated from Kurdestan and Azerbaijan they started the campaign of genocide and ethnic cleansing against all Serbs leaving them with less than 3% in Kosovo today.
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No bombs. Too bad.
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(VladoChicago, 6 January 2016 18:19)
Of corse you would say that but on the other hand you didnt prove me wrong nor did you try to dismantle my arguments. Because you cant. You know I told the truth and there is nothing to add to it. The evidence is there, if you are willing to look. As for your friends, well they are your friends, sure they hate us, otherwise they wouldnt be your friends.
And as for your other comments. It is very unlikely that you will come back and even if you would... well, we`ll be there, waiting for you. As always. What can I say its my home and the land of my forefathers. Whatever comes, we will have to face it was we did in the past.
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Starting with you Donkey Hoxha since Hoxha is an Albanian surname my questIon to you is are you an actual Albanian or just pretending to be one? Nothing personal but you do or you've provided yourself a rather bizarre first name or nickname (I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.)
And as for you Hank the Tank after reading your comment where you mentioned something about Albanians being jealous my question to you is would you be jealous if I offer to do special things for pleasant Albanians (especially if I'm relating to them) instead of doing special things for non-Albanians who have an unpleasant character or personality?
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I cant help it, we Gjakovars are intolerant towards the people who murdered our families.
(Gjon Marku, 6 January 2016 17:01)
I'm really not interested in the excuse you've concocted to justify your hostility while being too stupid to tell the difference between paramilitaries of the '90s and displaced pensioners and children you've never met today. If even after rebuilding your lives and homes you can still go from zero to mob in under five seconds with a prepackaged sob story you think makes you special but has no connection to today's events, it's you who need help, not the people you act like savages towards.
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Kosovo mothers, don’t be so dramatic, please. Seriously now, we wanted Kosovo to be free and independent, we started a war, found an important ally to help us out, it worked out for us. Obviously, civilian casualties were all included in the price, our allies were aware of that, we wanted that to be widely documented and it was widely documented by western media. Why did they react the way they did? But because Yugoslavia was a serious state, mothers, so serious that it was the only Eastern bloc’s state whose academic degrees were widely recognized in the West. And your sons and daughters know that, mothers, those who are alive and kicking in the west, obviously. And they told me that. The various engineers, doctors from Kosovo, in the west, mothers. The old guard, obviously, Kosovo’s last decent generation of professionals… Because it would have happened everywhere, everywhere in the civilized world when somebody decides to secede by violent means, mothers.
Not a good answer, right? Yep, I should be like ‘I’m so sorry, those criminals have nothing to do with the good Serbs. No mothers, no, this is what Serbs are, this is what orthos are, mothers, we are cruel, we like to kill people, I don’t know how many times I’ve whispered to myself “Srebrenica is nothing compared to what I would have done if…” Ah mothers, mothers, Belgrade Serbs fully deserved to be bombed, though, and they know why.
I’m open for interviews from major Albo media outlets, though :)
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Amanaparts
As usual mostly little angry albainian boys cause you guys never grow up to be real men like the Serbs! Its only a matter of time before we come back for all of you.The whole world really hates muslims and now no one wills save you!
I have greek serb croat romainian bulgarian montenigrins and Macedonian friends and they all HATE albainians!
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Bring some salad and cake to toss at Easter, ok?
(Donkey Hoxha, 6 January 2016 16:35)
LOL no, they're supposed to throw eggs for Easter, not Christmas. No wonder the Serbs looked shocked and this made headlines. They were expecting ham and rakija.
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Until this holy sacred Albanian land of Kosova is completely saturated and flowing with blood, never will Serbia step her foot or have any kind of control over this soil ...
(Rocky, 6 January 2016 16:37)
You got to feel sorry for this miserable individual.
There is something intrinsically wrong with a human who writes this.
To those celebrating .. Peace.
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Donkey Hoxha
I know, this must have been a shock to you because you are used to give state receptions to murderers. Well, as you can see, we have a slightly different take on murderers than you.
I cant help it, we Gjakovars are intolerant towards the people who murderd our families. I guess it has something to do with ethnic cleansing, the massgraves, the cover up etc. You tell me. I`m sure you know more than I about these things. I mean, after all, the city has been rebuild and it was impossible to find stones, back in the day we could just take them from the ruins.
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Could you please show to us what culture do you Serbs have?
(Ashtu de, 6 January 2016 15:45)
Well for starters, we can begin with the culture in Kosovo you somehow think is yours and are trying to rewrite as your own :)
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Yes and all this under the carefull watch of the USA, England and Germany with full blessing of the Vatican! Where is the International Community now? You see how profoundly Satan wants to erase Eastern Orthodox Christianity from the face of the earth! Why such a profound determination the Devil has to murder ALL Eastern Orthodox Christianity? Proterani sa Rodnog Neba, who better understands the suffering than Eastern Orthodox Christianity in the Balkans! Kosovo the Spiritial and Holy land for Serbia and now the USA, England and Germany occupy and rule what is and was ours for ages! What will happen in the near future to the rest of Serbia and Serbian people? Will any Serbian survive the wrath of darkness that Satan has planned for all Eastern Orthodox Chrianity in the Balkans? Oh Srbijo Mila Mati! We Serbian people at the cross roads of destiny, our backs against the wall and now no where else to go but Heaven! Does it take a doctorate in political science to understand the consequences that will result from all these "border adjustments" Hitler Jr. with the full backing of the USA has proclaimed in the Balkans? What mortal god is he or she that encrouches sacred devinity? Kosovo the ancient and sacred Holy Land of Serbia from the begining to the ends of time! The Devil mortal and will not survive eternity! Any nation that supports Satanism is doomed to the deepest pits of hell for eternity! USA, England and Germany better you never born for what evil you commited to God!
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Unbelievable no other word than Savages
(mike, 6 January 2016 )
Fu.. Serbia, and Fu.. Thaci & mustafa! After Serbia's brutal ethnic cleansing campaigns against Kosova's majority Albanians population from the late 1800s until 1999, you had fuc...g better believe that we are savage like, actually a savage would be a angel like description of us at this point in time, not even a savage is capable of the hatred we now have for radical-Serbia!!!
Until this holy sacred Albanian land of Kosova is completely saturated and flowing with blood, never will Serbia step her foot or have any kind of control over this soil where so many Albanian warriors sacrificed there lives to preserve her true identity, period!
So bring your migs, your t-84s, your howitzers and your radical selves, let us play the tunes we have been playing for the last 1200 years ever since your unwelcomely arrival from the marsh lands of Rus!!!
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In 2016, there were again a lot of improvements in Kosovo. Returning Serbs who wanted to visit the homes they were expelled from for Christmas were not stoned by Albanians any more, only pelted with eggs, apples and snowballs. It's one more sign of the great improvements reached in Kosovo over the last decade.
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(Ari Gold, 6 January 2016 14:53)
Another lost soul which even in Christmas day think about Albanians.
Pray for a meaning in your pathetic life - and stop thinking about your komšije.
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albanians = isis there really is no difference
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F... The Serbs! They have no place in
The Republic Of Kosova where they brutally raped & massacred 1000s of innocent Albanian civilians which were ...... YAWN!
(Rocky, 6 January 2016 14:27)
Sorry, I got bored halfway through your predictably repetitive bitch fest you use as an excuse to act like savages.
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Serbs overpass even ISIS in war crimes!
You are the 1 -st in list, the inspiration to all the Isis war criminals.
(Rat - KO!, 6 January 2016 16:28)
Really? That's funny since it's Albanians who love to destroy historical monuments, mutilate their captives, depend on drug trafficking for money and have an overly exaggerated opinion of themselves and their history. If you're trying to provoke, you're going to have to be a little factual. Try not to sound like some angry little Borat who can only spit out slurs and insults. Besides, you're the ones provoking civilians in the article here.
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albanians = isis there really is no difference
(Ratko, 6 January 2016 16:08)
Serbs overpass even ISIS in war crimes!
You are the 1 -st in list, the inspiration to all the Isis war criminals.
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From Gjakova with love ;-)
(Gjon Marku, 6 January 2016 15:52)
We expected no less from you savages XOXO. Did the loss of eggs and apples set you back a few euros?
Bring some salad and cake to toss at Easter, ok?
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From Gjakova with love ;-)
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Show to the Kosovo mothers where you have killed and buried their sons and daughters. Show to them. All they need is a grave where to bury and cry their sons.
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(Hank the Tank
Could you please show to us what culture do you Serbs have?
Ps: please let alone war crimes culture all the world already know it.
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Oh grow up and get a life. Many suffered worse than you and are trying to get on. What a sad and pathetic bunch.
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This Christmas, I pray that these savages find meaning in their lives.
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F... The Serbs! They have no place in
The Republic Of Kosova where they brutally raped & massacred 1000s of innocent Albanian civilians which were and have always been the majority population app 92% in the 1990s and Serbs at the time only made up less then 10%!!! And the bastards think they will have a say in Kosova's future?
F... NO! Let the chips fall were they may!
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Unbelievable no other word than Savages
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Albanian thugs!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ8ccvWT7t8
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Dont understand why Albanians wont let Kosovos native population celebrate Christmas as they have done for thousands of years? i guess thats how it is with people who dont have a culture of their own. Albanians are insecure and jealous.
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B92,
Please give a bit of background on this story, send a reporter to understand why are they so angry where this city was burned to the ground by Serbian paramilitary forces and 100's of young men, boys were killed and are still missing.
Families like: Cerkezi, SHarani...and many more all boys/men in this families have disappeared and none of them where fighters they were taken from their home; their bodies still have not been fount/returned.
These are their relatives and mothers, same mother's that removed a Serbian minister last year for calling them savages, as their pain is a pain that many Serb mothers also understand from losing their children.
It would do us all justice and help one day reconcile with each other if both media outlets explain the whole story.
P.S What I have written upstairs is not propaganda, its not to justification just explanation and take as you wish, however it would benefit us all if we know why and how in the end that is true journalism, and I have been reading your papper for decades both in Serbian and in English I know you have that capability.
With Respect,
Bilbao
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Well, I still dont see how any Serb finds the courage to travel to Gjakova. They are either paid or fools. This will be the standard greeting for years to come after what happend in Gjakova. I mean the bus is full of tourist because a former Gjakova Serb would never be stupid enough to travel to the city.
Operation Reka is the reason why no serb ever will be able to return to Gjakova. See report from Fond za humanitarno pravo (EN and Srpski) for a better understanding of the events: http://www.hlc-rdc.org/?p=30521
"On 27 and 28 April 1999, the Yugoslav Army (VJ) and Serbian Ministry of Interior (MUP) conducted a joint, large-scale operation named “Operation Reka”..."Serbian forces killed at least 350 ethnic Albanian civilians"... "309 victims were found in the secret mass graves in Belgrade suburb in 2001"..."the attack against the civilian population was the gravest crime against civilians committed during the war in Kosovo, and among the gravest of all the crimes committed in the 1990s in the wars in the former Yugoslavia."
No one has been convicted so far even though there are currently 16 Red Notice from Interpol.
As I said, no serb will ever be able to come in peace or leave in one piece without heavy protection.
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Dont understand why Albanians wont let Kosovos native population celebrate Christmas as they have done for thousands of years? i guess thats how it is with people who dont have a culture of their own. Albanians are insecure and jealous.
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Unbelievable no other word than Savages
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Albanian thugs!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ8ccvWT7t8
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This Christmas, I pray that these savages find meaning in their lives.
pre 8 godina
albanians = isis there really is no difference
pre 8 godina
Serbs overpass even ISIS in war crimes!
You are the 1 -st in list, the inspiration to all the Isis war criminals.
(Rat - KO!, 6 January 2016 16:28)
Really? That's funny since it's Albanians who love to destroy historical monuments, mutilate their captives, depend on drug trafficking for money and have an overly exaggerated opinion of themselves and their history. If you're trying to provoke, you're going to have to be a little factual. Try not to sound like some angry little Borat who can only spit out slurs and insults. Besides, you're the ones provoking civilians in the article here.
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Until this holy sacred Albanian land of Kosova is completely saturated and flowing with blood, never will Serbia step her foot or have any kind of control over this soil ...
(Rocky, 6 January 2016 16:37)
You got to feel sorry for this miserable individual.
There is something intrinsically wrong with a human who writes this.
To those celebrating .. Peace.
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Could you please show to us what culture do you Serbs have?
(Ashtu de, 6 January 2016 15:45)
Well for starters, we can begin with the culture in Kosovo you somehow think is yours and are trying to rewrite as your own :)
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F... The Serbs! They have no place in
The Republic Of Kosova where they brutally raped & massacred 1000s of innocent Albanian civilians which were ...... YAWN!
(Rocky, 6 January 2016 14:27)
Sorry, I got bored halfway through your predictably repetitive bitch fest you use as an excuse to act like savages.
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From Gjakova with love ;-)
(Gjon Marku, 6 January 2016 15:52)
We expected no less from you savages XOXO. Did the loss of eggs and apples set you back a few euros?
Bring some salad and cake to toss at Easter, ok?
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Amanaparts
As usual mostly little angry albainian boys cause you guys never grow up to be real men like the Serbs! Its only a matter of time before we come back for all of you.The whole world really hates muslims and now no one wills save you!
I have greek serb croat romainian bulgarian montenigrins and Macedonian friends and they all HATE albainians!
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Yes and all this under the carefull watch of the USA, England and Germany with full blessing of the Vatican! Where is the International Community now? You see how profoundly Satan wants to erase Eastern Orthodox Christianity from the face of the earth! Why such a profound determination the Devil has to murder ALL Eastern Orthodox Christianity? Proterani sa Rodnog Neba, who better understands the suffering than Eastern Orthodox Christianity in the Balkans! Kosovo the Spiritial and Holy land for Serbia and now the USA, England and Germany occupy and rule what is and was ours for ages! What will happen in the near future to the rest of Serbia and Serbian people? Will any Serbian survive the wrath of darkness that Satan has planned for all Eastern Orthodox Chrianity in the Balkans? Oh Srbijo Mila Mati! We Serbian people at the cross roads of destiny, our backs against the wall and now no where else to go but Heaven! Does it take a doctorate in political science to understand the consequences that will result from all these "border adjustments" Hitler Jr. with the full backing of the USA has proclaimed in the Balkans? What mortal god is he or she that encrouches sacred devinity? Kosovo the ancient and sacred Holy Land of Serbia from the begining to the ends of time! The Devil mortal and will not survive eternity! Any nation that supports Satanism is doomed to the deepest pits of hell for eternity! USA, England and Germany better you never born for what evil you commited to God!
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In 2016, there were again a lot of improvements in Kosovo. Returning Serbs who wanted to visit the homes they were expelled from for Christmas were not stoned by Albanians any more, only pelted with eggs, apples and snowballs. It's one more sign of the great improvements reached in Kosovo over the last decade.
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Oh grow up and get a life. Many suffered worse than you and are trying to get on. What a sad and pathetic bunch.
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RE: Albanian Gypsies from Kurdestan and Azerbaijan
Genocide committed against Serbs all across Kosovo under the noses of the so called western nations, EULEX, UNMIK , KFOR and the rest. Albanian KLA Terrorists continue to commit genocide against the Serb population. There were over 13,000 Serb homes and only 26 Albanian homes in the 14th century according to the Ottoman catacombs and census. As soon as the Albanian Gypsies migrated from Kurdestan and Azerbaijan they started the campaign of genocide and ethnic cleansing against all Serbs leaving them with less than 3% in Kosovo today.
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B92,
Please give a bit of background on this story, send a reporter to understand why are they so angry where this city was burned to the ground by Serbian paramilitary forces and 100's of young men, boys were killed and are still missing.
Families like: Cerkezi, SHarani...and many more all boys/men in this families have disappeared and none of them where fighters they were taken from their home; their bodies still have not been fount/returned.
These are their relatives and mothers, same mother's that removed a Serbian minister last year for calling them savages, as their pain is a pain that many Serb mothers also understand from losing their children.
It would do us all justice and help one day reconcile with each other if both media outlets explain the whole story.
P.S What I have written upstairs is not propaganda, its not to justification just explanation and take as you wish, however it would benefit us all if we know why and how in the end that is true journalism, and I have been reading your papper for decades both in Serbian and in English I know you have that capability.
With Respect,
Bilbao
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F... The Serbs! They have no place in
The Republic Of Kosova where they brutally raped & massacred 1000s of innocent Albanian civilians which were and have always been the majority population app 92% in the 1990s and Serbs at the time only made up less then 10%!!! And the bastards think they will have a say in Kosova's future?
F... NO! Let the chips fall were they may!
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Show to the Kosovo mothers where you have killed and buried their sons and daughters. Show to them. All they need is a grave where to bury and cry their sons.
pre 8 godina
Well, I still dont see how any Serb finds the courage to travel to Gjakova. They are either paid or fools. This will be the standard greeting for years to come after what happend in Gjakova. I mean the bus is full of tourist because a former Gjakova Serb would never be stupid enough to travel to the city.
Operation Reka is the reason why no serb ever will be able to return to Gjakova. See report from Fond za humanitarno pravo (EN and Srpski) for a better understanding of the events: http://www.hlc-rdc.org/?p=30521
"On 27 and 28 April 1999, the Yugoslav Army (VJ) and Serbian Ministry of Interior (MUP) conducted a joint, large-scale operation named “Operation Reka”..."Serbian forces killed at least 350 ethnic Albanian civilians"... "309 victims were found in the secret mass graves in Belgrade suburb in 2001"..."the attack against the civilian population was the gravest crime against civilians committed during the war in Kosovo, and among the gravest of all the crimes committed in the 1990s in the wars in the former Yugoslavia."
No one has been convicted so far even though there are currently 16 Red Notice from Interpol.
As I said, no serb will ever be able to come in peace or leave in one piece without heavy protection.
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(Hank the Tank
Could you please show to us what culture do you Serbs have?
Ps: please let alone war crimes culture all the world already know it.
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albanians = isis there really is no difference
(Ratko, 6 January 2016 16:08)
Serbs overpass even ISIS in war crimes!
You are the 1 -st in list, the inspiration to all the Isis war criminals.
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Kosovo mothers, don’t be so dramatic, please. Seriously now, we wanted Kosovo to be free and independent, we started a war, found an important ally to help us out, it worked out for us. Obviously, civilian casualties were all included in the price, our allies were aware of that, we wanted that to be widely documented and it was widely documented by western media. Why did they react the way they did? But because Yugoslavia was a serious state, mothers, so serious that it was the only Eastern bloc’s state whose academic degrees were widely recognized in the West. And your sons and daughters know that, mothers, those who are alive and kicking in the west, obviously. And they told me that. The various engineers, doctors from Kosovo, in the west, mothers. The old guard, obviously, Kosovo’s last decent generation of professionals… Because it would have happened everywhere, everywhere in the civilized world when somebody decides to secede by violent means, mothers.
Not a good answer, right? Yep, I should be like ‘I’m so sorry, those criminals have nothing to do with the good Serbs. No mothers, no, this is what Serbs are, this is what orthos are, mothers, we are cruel, we like to kill people, I don’t know how many times I’ve whispered to myself “Srebrenica is nothing compared to what I would have done if…” Ah mothers, mothers, Belgrade Serbs fully deserved to be bombed, though, and they know why.
I’m open for interviews from major Albo media outlets, though :)
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(Ari Gold, 6 January 2016 14:53)
Another lost soul which even in Christmas day think about Albanians.
Pray for a meaning in your pathetic life - and stop thinking about your komšije.
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Donkey Hoxha
I know, this must have been a shock to you because you are used to give state receptions to murderers. Well, as you can see, we have a slightly different take on murderers than you.
I cant help it, we Gjakovars are intolerant towards the people who murderd our families. I guess it has something to do with ethnic cleansing, the massgraves, the cover up etc. You tell me. I`m sure you know more than I about these things. I mean, after all, the city has been rebuild and it was impossible to find stones, back in the day we could just take them from the ruins.
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Bring some salad and cake to toss at Easter, ok?
(Donkey Hoxha, 6 January 2016 16:35)
LOL no, they're supposed to throw eggs for Easter, not Christmas. No wonder the Serbs looked shocked and this made headlines. They were expecting ham and rakija.
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I cant help it, we Gjakovars are intolerant towards the people who murdered our families.
(Gjon Marku, 6 January 2016 17:01)
I'm really not interested in the excuse you've concocted to justify your hostility while being too stupid to tell the difference between paramilitaries of the '90s and displaced pensioners and children you've never met today. If even after rebuilding your lives and homes you can still go from zero to mob in under five seconds with a prepackaged sob story you think makes you special but has no connection to today's events, it's you who need help, not the people you act like savages towards.
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Unbelievable no other word than Savages
(mike, 6 January 2016 )
Fu.. Serbia, and Fu.. Thaci & mustafa! After Serbia's brutal ethnic cleansing campaigns against Kosova's majority Albanians population from the late 1800s until 1999, you had fuc...g better believe that we are savage like, actually a savage would be a angel like description of us at this point in time, not even a savage is capable of the hatred we now have for radical-Serbia!!!
Until this holy sacred Albanian land of Kosova is completely saturated and flowing with blood, never will Serbia step her foot or have any kind of control over this soil where so many Albanian warriors sacrificed there lives to preserve her true identity, period!
So bring your migs, your t-84s, your howitzers and your radical selves, let us play the tunes we have been playing for the last 1200 years ever since your unwelcomely arrival from the marsh lands of Rus!!!
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@Jugolsavia
Oh dear, poor Serbs...suffering since the 14th century. hatred coming from Croats, Bosnians and Albanians. no wonder you people turn out paranoid, the same nonsense garbage has been drummed into you since before you're even conceived. this is why you have produced the second number of war criminals after Nazi Germany
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(VladoChicago, 6 January 2016 18:19)
Of corse you would say that but on the other hand you didnt prove me wrong nor did you try to dismantle my arguments. Because you cant. You know I told the truth and there is nothing to add to it. The evidence is there, if you are willing to look. As for your friends, well they are your friends, sure they hate us, otherwise they wouldnt be your friends.
And as for your other comments. It is very unlikely that you will come back and even if you would... well, we`ll be there, waiting for you. As always. What can I say its my home and the land of my forefathers. Whatever comes, we will have to face it was we did in the past.
pre 8 godina
From Gjakova with love ;-)
pre 8 godina
Really? That's funny since it's Albanians who love to destroy historical monuments, mutilate their captives, depend on drug trafficking for money and have an overly exaggerated opinion of themselves and their history. If you're trying to provoke, you're going to have to be a little factual. Try not to sound like some angry little Borat who can only spit out slurs and insults. Besides, you're the ones provoking civilians in the article here.
(Talibania, 6 January 2016 16:45)
Really! That's funny since are Serbs who love to destroy historical monuments like the old city in Dubrovnik and the churches inside.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-mnp4IfjsM
That's funny since i saw a lot of mosques bombed and destroyed in Bosnia.
Even the Bosnian parliament you have bombed with people inside.
For not talking to the genocide, and the mass graves found all around Serbia.
That's funny since the monstrous crimes you have made in Kosovo are well documented, and the mass graves had Albanian victims not Serbian one.
You Serbs are really funny people. Amnesia is your friend when it convenient to you.
That's funny since buried in mass graves the bodies of your victims, why you don't decided to burn them like Nazi did?
See, ISIS is still behind you when it comes to the crimes. See, that's really funny.
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@ Jugoslavia
I have checked. I find a lot of interesting things about Albanians.
Actually i find just the migration of Serbs in Balcan. Why?
From where Serbs came from? Just curious.
Azerbaijani language actually is something between slavic - iranian - Turkic language. It can not be related with Albanians but most probably with slavic, Iranian, Turkish people.
I have check a lot and i find that Kurdish and Albanian have nothing in common. Then i checked their folk music, and i find an Albanian lovely music.
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There were over 13,000 Serb homes and only 26 Albanian homes in the 14th century according to the Ottoman catacombs and census. As soon as the Albanian Gypsies migrated from Kurdestan and Azerbaijan they started the campaign of genocide and ethnic cleansing against all Serbs leaving them with less than 3% in Kosovo today.
(Jugoslavija, 6 January 2016 23:41)
If your definition of X committing genocide against Y is that X's share of population increases while Y's decreases, then Serbs also committed genocide against the Romans, because Serbs' share of population increased from 0% to 99% from the 1st century to the 14th century, while the share of Roman population decreased at the same time!
With your definition of genocide we would find few ethnic groups, if any, that did not committ genocide at some point in history. I'm not saying your definition is wrong; just applying it consistently.
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It is not clear while archaelogists are still struggling so much to find out what was happening in primitive ages: they should just study a bit the albanian way-of-life to understand life in Prehistory...
pre 8 godina
No bombs. Too bad.
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I'm really not interested in the excuse you've concocted to justify your hostility while being too stupid to tell the difference between paramilitaries of the '90s and displaced pensioners and children you've never met today.
(Donkey Hoxha, 6 January 2016 19:16)
You dont get it do you. Serbs from Gjakova formed the paramilitaries, there is no difference between displaced pensioners and paramilitaries. Even if it wasnt them directly, they have oncles, sons, daughters who joined the paramilitaries. We lived in peace for centuries and over night they turned on us. People know them. Their faces, their names.
On top of that its the fault of your government because the crimes havent been prosecuted and all the murderers live now in peace in Serbia. Those protesters want justice, I want justice, and since your criminal government wont serve it, they will take it on everyone affiliated with them or with former paramilitary troops. The protest where right!! Maybe next time those "pilgrims" will ask their government for countability before they plan their next trip. If not, this will be the standard greeting. Unfortunately.
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@ Italian Serbophile
Not really, all they have to do is read your comments, then they'll definitely get an accurate picture into their IQ levels
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lobla
This is a blatant lie.
I challenge you to find any article or prove that Albanians supported Nazis. There was only ONE group of about 6500 Soldiers. The majority fought nazionalism and faschism just like the rest of Europe. Why do you think is it that Israel support Albanians?! It was Albanians, specially in the mountains that protected Jews even though surrounded by Italian faschist and German nazis.
Albanians received (almost 3x more than serbs) certificates "The Righteous Among The Nations" from Israel for the protection of jews during holocaust. http://www.yadvashem.org/yv/en/righteous/index.asp#!prettyPhoto
See Statement of Benjamin Netanyahu about Albania http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Netanyahu-to-Albanian-PM-Our-friendship-goes-back-to-Albania-protecting-Jews-from-Nazis-437943
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@ ( rote )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dq5NaRd73c
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@ Jugoslavia
Muaaahahaaaa
The only thing to do now is to relate the roma people with Romans and Rome.
Just try and for sure you will find something. :)
O please check even about Serbs, you will find interesting things.
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Starting with you Donkey Hoxha since Hoxha is an Albanian surname my questIon to you is are you an actual Albanian or just pretending to be one? Nothing personal but you do or you've provided yourself a rather bizarre first name or nickname (I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.)
And as for you Hank the Tank after reading your comment where you mentioned something about Albanians being jealous my question to you is would you be jealous if I offer to do special things for pleasant Albanians (especially if I'm relating to them) instead of doing special things for non-Albanians who have an unpleasant character or personality?
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Avni : “No bombs. Too bad.”
******* Не буди лиха пока оно тихо !
Amanaparts : “It is very unlikely that you will come back and even if you would... well, we`ll be there, waiting for you. As always.”
********* This time we’ll come together …
Rocky : “So bring your migs, your t-84s, your howitzers and your radical selves, let us play the tunes we have been playing for the last 1200 years ever since your unwelcomely arrival from the marsh lands of Rus!!!”
******* Is it an invitation ?
Rat – KO
****** What is your mother’s name you say ?
Ashtu de : “Could you please show to us what culture do you Serbs have? Piss: please let alone war crimes culture all the world already know it.”
******* If it weren’t a holyday I would explain what part of a toilet you are but you must be already guessing. It least your father should have told it to you.
From Russia with love !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGn8Dai9jWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jw0T-zzd5o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMyCgvc33F4
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(Jugoslavija, 7 January 2016 17:16)
I will not have any prob. descending from these "antique" christian people my dear Jugo. You know all the humans came from somewhere!
But, i actually the Caucasian Albania is one name given to the region from Romans, which mean "the white" Caucasian, referring to the white people in that region. You know Albanians - mean "the whites". You know Serbians - in latin mean "the servants".
Unfortunately those lovely christian people have nothing to do with us, neither in dna or language - they are more close to slavs (Russians, Ukrainians..).
Albanian language is an Indo european language with similarity in Germanic and Balltic languages - so if ever Albanians will ever came from somewhere will be just from these regions.
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Of course Albanians are from Bakurê Kurdistanê! Their most common last name is Kurti! LOL
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Hashim looks like a true Shquipe. Faces from West Asia. Why so many Kosovo Albanians look Armenian, Syrian and Lebanese? Because they came from over there...
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@VladoChicago:
Your buddies are generalizing or appear to be generalizing about Albanians and what they are doing is wrong.I admit I dealt with some Albanian b92 viewers who offended me or irritated me but that doesn't mean that I'm going to blame all Albanians for the actions of a few just like I'm certain that your Bulgarian,Croat,Greek,Macedonian,Montenegrin,Rumanian & Serbian pals wouldn't appreciate it if someone negatively generalizes about their compatriots.
Finally when you claim that these friends of yours despise Albanians do they even despise Albanian Catholics & Orthodox Christians or only the Muslims they despise since most Albanians are regarded as Muslims.Like I indicated not all Albanians are troublemakers.
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RE: Albanian Gypsies from Kurdestan and Azerbaijan
Learn your own history.
Part of what is now Mountainous Karabagh and part of the Mil plain formed the historical province of Karabagh-Artsakh, which was one of the most important provinces in Caucasian Albania, the earliest state in Northern Azerbaijan. http://www.visions.az/history,93/
Meet Udis, ancient Albanians descendants
http://www.azernews.az/travel/67756.html
Udins - the ancient tribe who live primarily in Azerbaijan, are the descendants of the Caucasian Albanians. http://chai-khana.org/en/udins-the-descendants-of-albanians
Albanians are Kurds!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW7nLEBElZU
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RE: Nuremburg Trials and Albanian Nazi's
World War II began in 1939 when Germany invaded Poland. Over the next few years, the European Axis powers (Germany, Italy, Albania, Bulgaria, Hungary, and Romania) successfully invaded and occupied France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Denmark, Norway, Greece, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Finland, and the Netherlands. But when Adolf Hitler's troops invaded the Soviet Union, the Nazi war machine stalled. By the end of the war, the Axis powers were battered and beleaguered, and in 1945 they unconditionally surrendered to the United States, the Soviet Union, Great Britain, and France (the four Allied powers).http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Nuremberg+Trials
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lobla
Didnt I already said there was one group of about 6500 soldiers (ss skanderbeg). Your links only proves what I said.
I knew you would use google and all you would find is SS Skanderbeg, you fell for the bait. You herby lose the right to sit on the grown ups table because you failed to deliver the required proof and for the use of biased serb sources only.
You are dismissed. Next!
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there is no difference between displaced pensioners and paramilitaries. Even if it wasnt them directly, they have oncles, sons, daughters who joined the paramilitaries. We lived in peace for centuries and over night they turned on us. People know them. Their faces, their names.
(Gjon Marku, 7 January 2016 08:12)
So you just admitted in the same sentence it doesn't matter if their pensioners or paramilitaries because you have a collective anger towards everyone. Which means not only are you incapable of separating the wars of the 90s with the peace of the 2010s, you're also too lazy and disinterested to do so because of your preset beliefs that seem to be more important in preserving. By your own logic, any Serb has the right to throw everything from apples to zucchini at any Albanian they see because of the possibility they either might have been part of the KLA, have relatives in the KLA, or simply have KLA sympathies.
And then you wonder in a previous article why Serbia seems to be incapable of facilitating good relations with neighboring states, when people like you in neighboring states (or people like you who write in the name of neighboring states) give them no reason to do so.
At the end, you're less the victim I'm supposed to feel sorry for than just an angry peasant upset that your ethnically pure town - a town you also admitted was rebuilt and gets on with its life - was besieged by two buses of pilgrims for one f*cking afternoon.
Poor little you.
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You are dismissed. Next!
(Gjon Marku, 8 January 2016 17:28)
Yes, lobla did a fine job proving there was Nazi collaboration among Albanians of Kosovo, which was annexed to Albania after the Nazi invasion of Yugoslavia in 1941, proving Albanians benefited from the invasion. You can mention all you want about Jews in Tirana being protected, but you can't deny Jews of Kosovo, as well as most other non-Albanians, were deported to death camps because Albanians there worked well with the Germans.
No need to dismiss factual evidence because you're trying to sound snarky. You've already proved your inability to accept objective evidence with you need for a comeback :)
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gjon, i think serbs get it. i think they get it more than you think you do.
see, from the outside, armed with some background history everything you are saying about how serbs terrorized albanians, murdered them, organized to slaughter them is exactly the same thing albanians did to serbs while they were allied with the nazis.
just like you will never forget about those uncles and brothers and sons of some serbs that killed albanians, serbs haven't forgotten those albanian uncles and brothers and sons who took part to slaughter, what is unfortunate for your argument, an order of magnitude more serbs in ww2 than serbs did to albanians in 90s. this is totals, not percentages, which would be even higher, but thats less relevant.
overall, if peace is what people want, then peace is what people need to create. if people do not want peace, if people do not want to reconcile, if people wish to continue to point fingers, then peace will not come. without a proper peace war is always looming around the corner, in all parts of the world, not specifically the tinderbox that is the balkans.
so the trepidations and fears and hatreds you're displaying towards serbs is what serbs felt from ww2 onwards within kosovo, and the 40 years following ww2, many left, and many claimed economics, but some claimed fear as their reasons, fear that they would not be safe as the demographics of the region shifted dramatically (by all accounts, not just titos).
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RE; Albanians declaration of war against US-Nazi Axis
Albanians were part of the Axis of Evil with the Nazi's and declared war on the US as did Croatia, Romania and Hungary. Serbia never declared war on the US under the Nedic regime.
What Albania did do is dispose of King Zog, attacked Greece along with Albania and were trounced. Finally, Germany stepped in and then the Albanians ally was given parts of Yugoslavia as a loyal ally. Albanians committed mass attrocities against the non-Albanians population of Serbs , Jews and Gypsies in Kosovo.
14 December 1941 – Croatia declared war on the United States of America and Great Britain.
16 December 1941 – Czechoslovak government in exile declares war on all countries at war with the United States of America, Great Britain and the Soviet Union.
17 December 1941 – Albania declared war on the United States of America.http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Declarations_of_War_during_World_War_II
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Sure Albanians are harassing Serbs, that's 'cause they want MORE. Crazy crazy people!
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gjon,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21st_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Skanderbeg
http://www.axishistory.com/axis-nations/119-germany-waffen-ss/germany-waffen-ss-divisions/1306-21-ss-waffen-gebirgs-division-der-ss-skanderbeg-albanische-nr-1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_persecution_of_Serbs
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/08/27/kosovo-americas-nazi-colony/
challenge complete with a bonus. not 1 serb sourced article. 1 american sourced one. i don't have all day to teach you your history, so please take these as a starting point.
what benny nuttywho-who says is oh so unimportant to this topic, these words coming from the man who cries holocaust-holocaust and brings down the a holocaust on the palestinians (but thats very far off topic). fine. albanians saved jews, but happily slaughtered serbs and roma, and deny this fact, just as you are.
seriously how hard was it for you to use google? how hard is it for you to accept these facts. you scream from the top of the world about serb this serb that, evil, evil, evil, not since nazis etc. but conveniently forget, whitewash and sweep away what your grandpappys, and greatuncles did.
while you lie to yourself, you'll never be at peace.
no denying serbs did plenty awful to some: that is fact. but you deny fact with your last breath... for shame!!!
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gjon,
it may have been few soldiers, who killed and estimated 30-40k... you cry over internationally estinmated 5k... simple maths ellude you... order of magnitude more killing by your great unlces and grandfathers... note that afterwards, those estimated 6500 weren't handed over by kosovars, but you cry that serbia hasn't handed their evil doers over.
dismiss yourself please. you show only biased, ill formed arguments that flail around like a wet paper-towel.
the number of people who perpetrate a crime does not diminish the crime. the severity of the crime is what is key.
it was 1 man, just 1 a single man who pressed the button to drop fat man, and one 1 pressed the button to drop little boy. these two men, are each responsible for the vaporization of hundreds of thousands each. is this less of a travesty because it was one man. no!.
so, i don't care if you and your bravery alone cleansed the estimated 250,000 serbs from kosova since 90s, or if it took all 2 million of you and your friends to do it. in the end the estimated 1/4 million serbs were expelled.
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RE; Turkish Albanian Dagestan Gypsies
The Caucasian Albanians (also spelled as Alban, Aghvan, Aghban, and Alpan) were a nation, which, according to the ancient geographer Strabo, consisted of 26 tribes, ethnic groups, such as Albans themselves, as well as Gargars, Udis, etc. Some of them were of Turkic descent, while majority were indigenous authohontous Caucasian tribes, speaking in Caucasian languages.
In addition, Herodotus in his "History" when describing the right side of Araxes river (Media/Iran) mentiones Abars (who eventually became Avars) and Bashigirhihi (today's Bashkirs). This proves that there were Turkic people in South Azerbaijan as well, albeit probably Iranian-speaking.http://www.zerbaijan.com/albania/caucasian-albania.html
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Pictures r worth a thousand words. These people look like Albanians only difference is that Udis are Eastern Orthodox and Albanians are muslim.
There's even a Hashim Thachi lookalike @1:44 and at the end they dance like Albanians. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw8f5DxXBgA
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This spirit of darkness is at the heart of Islam and the people following its precepts do not even question the authenticity of a luciferic ideology that they are Told not to question over the fear of death or worse...Not to care or listen to anything that does not agree with a founder who was definitely not at all a holy man much less a man with morals.It's a great job of brainwashing though.
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Udi man singing. Wow, same accent as Albanians from Kosovo. Same singing style too. I can see the connection. Looks are similar too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZEG__XA4V4
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F... The Serbs! They have no place in
The Republic Of Kosova where they brutally raped & massacred 1000s of innocent Albanian civilians which were and have always been the majority population app 92% in the 1990s and Serbs at the time only made up less then 10%!!! And the bastards think they will have a say in Kosova's future?
F... NO! Let the chips fall were they may!
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Show to the Kosovo mothers where you have killed and buried their sons and daughters. Show to them. All they need is a grave where to bury and cry their sons.
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Well, I still dont see how any Serb finds the courage to travel to Gjakova. They are either paid or fools. This will be the standard greeting for years to come after what happend in Gjakova. I mean the bus is full of tourist because a former Gjakova Serb would never be stupid enough to travel to the city.
Operation Reka is the reason why no serb ever will be able to return to Gjakova. See report from Fond za humanitarno pravo (EN and Srpski) for a better understanding of the events: http://www.hlc-rdc.org/?p=30521
"On 27 and 28 April 1999, the Yugoslav Army (VJ) and Serbian Ministry of Interior (MUP) conducted a joint, large-scale operation named “Operation Reka”..."Serbian forces killed at least 350 ethnic Albanian civilians"... "309 victims were found in the secret mass graves in Belgrade suburb in 2001"..."the attack against the civilian population was the gravest crime against civilians committed during the war in Kosovo, and among the gravest of all the crimes committed in the 1990s in the wars in the former Yugoslavia."
No one has been convicted so far even though there are currently 16 Red Notice from Interpol.
As I said, no serb will ever be able to come in peace or leave in one piece without heavy protection.
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B92,
Please give a bit of background on this story, send a reporter to understand why are they so angry where this city was burned to the ground by Serbian paramilitary forces and 100's of young men, boys were killed and are still missing.
Families like: Cerkezi, SHarani...and many more all boys/men in this families have disappeared and none of them where fighters they were taken from their home; their bodies still have not been fount/returned.
These are their relatives and mothers, same mother's that removed a Serbian minister last year for calling them savages, as their pain is a pain that many Serb mothers also understand from losing their children.
It would do us all justice and help one day reconcile with each other if both media outlets explain the whole story.
P.S What I have written upstairs is not propaganda, its not to justification just explanation and take as you wish, however it would benefit us all if we know why and how in the end that is true journalism, and I have been reading your papper for decades both in Serbian and in English I know you have that capability.
With Respect,
Bilbao
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From Gjakova with love ;-)
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Unbelievable no other word than Savages
(mike, 6 January 2016 )
Fu.. Serbia, and Fu.. Thaci & mustafa! After Serbia's brutal ethnic cleansing campaigns against Kosova's majority Albanians population from the late 1800s until 1999, you had fuc...g better believe that we are savage like, actually a savage would be a angel like description of us at this point in time, not even a savage is capable of the hatred we now have for radical-Serbia!!!
Until this holy sacred Albanian land of Kosova is completely saturated and flowing with blood, never will Serbia step her foot or have any kind of control over this soil where so many Albanian warriors sacrificed there lives to preserve her true identity, period!
So bring your migs, your t-84s, your howitzers and your radical selves, let us play the tunes we have been playing for the last 1200 years ever since your unwelcomely arrival from the marsh lands of Rus!!!
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(Hank the Tank
Could you please show to us what culture do you Serbs have?
Ps: please let alone war crimes culture all the world already know it.
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albanians = isis there really is no difference
(Ratko, 6 January 2016 16:08)
Serbs overpass even ISIS in war crimes!
You are the 1 -st in list, the inspiration to all the Isis war criminals.
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Donkey Hoxha
I know, this must have been a shock to you because you are used to give state receptions to murderers. Well, as you can see, we have a slightly different take on murderers than you.
I cant help it, we Gjakovars are intolerant towards the people who murderd our families. I guess it has something to do with ethnic cleansing, the massgraves, the cover up etc. You tell me. I`m sure you know more than I about these things. I mean, after all, the city has been rebuild and it was impossible to find stones, back in the day we could just take them from the ruins.
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This Christmas, I pray that these savages find meaning in their lives.
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albanians = isis there really is no difference
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Dont understand why Albanians wont let Kosovos native population celebrate Christmas as they have done for thousands of years? i guess thats how it is with people who dont have a culture of their own. Albanians are insecure and jealous.
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Oh grow up and get a life. Many suffered worse than you and are trying to get on. What a sad and pathetic bunch.
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(Ari Gold, 6 January 2016 14:53)
Another lost soul which even in Christmas day think about Albanians.
Pray for a meaning in your pathetic life - and stop thinking about your komšije.
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Unbelievable no other word than Savages
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Serbs overpass even ISIS in war crimes!
You are the 1 -st in list, the inspiration to all the Isis war criminals.
(Rat - KO!, 6 January 2016 16:28)
Really? That's funny since it's Albanians who love to destroy historical monuments, mutilate their captives, depend on drug trafficking for money and have an overly exaggerated opinion of themselves and their history. If you're trying to provoke, you're going to have to be a little factual. Try not to sound like some angry little Borat who can only spit out slurs and insults. Besides, you're the ones provoking civilians in the article here.
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Yes and all this under the carefull watch of the USA, England and Germany with full blessing of the Vatican! Where is the International Community now? You see how profoundly Satan wants to erase Eastern Orthodox Christianity from the face of the earth! Why such a profound determination the Devil has to murder ALL Eastern Orthodox Christianity? Proterani sa Rodnog Neba, who better understands the suffering than Eastern Orthodox Christianity in the Balkans! Kosovo the Spiritial and Holy land for Serbia and now the USA, England and Germany occupy and rule what is and was ours for ages! What will happen in the near future to the rest of Serbia and Serbian people? Will any Serbian survive the wrath of darkness that Satan has planned for all Eastern Orthodox Chrianity in the Balkans? Oh Srbijo Mila Mati! We Serbian people at the cross roads of destiny, our backs against the wall and now no where else to go but Heaven! Does it take a doctorate in political science to understand the consequences that will result from all these "border adjustments" Hitler Jr. with the full backing of the USA has proclaimed in the Balkans? What mortal god is he or she that encrouches sacred devinity? Kosovo the ancient and sacred Holy Land of Serbia from the begining to the ends of time! The Devil mortal and will not survive eternity! Any nation that supports Satanism is doomed to the deepest pits of hell for eternity! USA, England and Germany better you never born for what evil you commited to God!
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RE: Albanian Gypsies from Kurdestan and Azerbaijan
Genocide committed against Serbs all across Kosovo under the noses of the so called western nations, EULEX, UNMIK , KFOR and the rest. Albanian KLA Terrorists continue to commit genocide against the Serb population. There were over 13,000 Serb homes and only 26 Albanian homes in the 14th century according to the Ottoman catacombs and census. As soon as the Albanian Gypsies migrated from Kurdestan and Azerbaijan they started the campaign of genocide and ethnic cleansing against all Serbs leaving them with less than 3% in Kosovo today.
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Albanian thugs!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ8ccvWT7t8
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In 2016, there were again a lot of improvements in Kosovo. Returning Serbs who wanted to visit the homes they were expelled from for Christmas were not stoned by Albanians any more, only pelted with eggs, apples and snowballs. It's one more sign of the great improvements reached in Kosovo over the last decade.
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Could you please show to us what culture do you Serbs have?
(Ashtu de, 6 January 2016 15:45)
Well for starters, we can begin with the culture in Kosovo you somehow think is yours and are trying to rewrite as your own :)
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Amanaparts
As usual mostly little angry albainian boys cause you guys never grow up to be real men like the Serbs! Its only a matter of time before we come back for all of you.The whole world really hates muslims and now no one wills save you!
I have greek serb croat romainian bulgarian montenigrins and Macedonian friends and they all HATE albainians!
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F... The Serbs! They have no place in
The Republic Of Kosova where they brutally raped & massacred 1000s of innocent Albanian civilians which were ...... YAWN!
(Rocky, 6 January 2016 14:27)
Sorry, I got bored halfway through your predictably repetitive bitch fest you use as an excuse to act like savages.
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Kosovo mothers, don’t be so dramatic, please. Seriously now, we wanted Kosovo to be free and independent, we started a war, found an important ally to help us out, it worked out for us. Obviously, civilian casualties were all included in the price, our allies were aware of that, we wanted that to be widely documented and it was widely documented by western media. Why did they react the way they did? But because Yugoslavia was a serious state, mothers, so serious that it was the only Eastern bloc’s state whose academic degrees were widely recognized in the West. And your sons and daughters know that, mothers, those who are alive and kicking in the west, obviously. And they told me that. The various engineers, doctors from Kosovo, in the west, mothers. The old guard, obviously, Kosovo’s last decent generation of professionals… Because it would have happened everywhere, everywhere in the civilized world when somebody decides to secede by violent means, mothers.
Not a good answer, right? Yep, I should be like ‘I’m so sorry, those criminals have nothing to do with the good Serbs. No mothers, no, this is what Serbs are, this is what orthos are, mothers, we are cruel, we like to kill people, I don’t know how many times I’ve whispered to myself “Srebrenica is nothing compared to what I would have done if…” Ah mothers, mothers, Belgrade Serbs fully deserved to be bombed, though, and they know why.
I’m open for interviews from major Albo media outlets, though :)
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Avni : “No bombs. Too bad.”
******* Не буди лиха пока оно тихо !
Amanaparts : “It is very unlikely that you will come back and even if you would... well, we`ll be there, waiting for you. As always.”
********* This time we’ll come together …
Rocky : “So bring your migs, your t-84s, your howitzers and your radical selves, let us play the tunes we have been playing for the last 1200 years ever since your unwelcomely arrival from the marsh lands of Rus!!!”
******* Is it an invitation ?
Rat – KO
****** What is your mother’s name you say ?
Ashtu de : “Could you please show to us what culture do you Serbs have? Piss: please let alone war crimes culture all the world already know it.”
******* If it weren’t a holyday I would explain what part of a toilet you are but you must be already guessing. It least your father should have told it to you.
From Russia with love !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGn8Dai9jWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jw0T-zzd5o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMyCgvc33F4
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From Gjakova with love ;-)
(Gjon Marku, 6 January 2016 15:52)
We expected no less from you savages XOXO. Did the loss of eggs and apples set you back a few euros?
Bring some salad and cake to toss at Easter, ok?
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Until this holy sacred Albanian land of Kosova is completely saturated and flowing with blood, never will Serbia step her foot or have any kind of control over this soil ...
(Rocky, 6 January 2016 16:37)
You got to feel sorry for this miserable individual.
There is something intrinsically wrong with a human who writes this.
To those celebrating .. Peace.
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Hashim looks like a true Shquipe. Faces from West Asia. Why so many Kosovo Albanians look Armenian, Syrian and Lebanese? Because they came from over there...
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I cant help it, we Gjakovars are intolerant towards the people who murdered our families.
(Gjon Marku, 6 January 2016 17:01)
I'm really not interested in the excuse you've concocted to justify your hostility while being too stupid to tell the difference between paramilitaries of the '90s and displaced pensioners and children you've never met today. If even after rebuilding your lives and homes you can still go from zero to mob in under five seconds with a prepackaged sob story you think makes you special but has no connection to today's events, it's you who need help, not the people you act like savages towards.
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(VladoChicago, 6 January 2016 18:19)
Of corse you would say that but on the other hand you didnt prove me wrong nor did you try to dismantle my arguments. Because you cant. You know I told the truth and there is nothing to add to it. The evidence is there, if you are willing to look. As for your friends, well they are your friends, sure they hate us, otherwise they wouldnt be your friends.
And as for your other comments. It is very unlikely that you will come back and even if you would... well, we`ll be there, waiting for you. As always. What can I say its my home and the land of my forefathers. Whatever comes, we will have to face it was we did in the past.
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No bombs. Too bad.
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Really? That's funny since it's Albanians who love to destroy historical monuments, mutilate their captives, depend on drug trafficking for money and have an overly exaggerated opinion of themselves and their history. If you're trying to provoke, you're going to have to be a little factual. Try not to sound like some angry little Borat who can only spit out slurs and insults. Besides, you're the ones provoking civilians in the article here.
(Talibania, 6 January 2016 16:45)
Really! That's funny since are Serbs who love to destroy historical monuments like the old city in Dubrovnik and the churches inside.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-mnp4IfjsM
That's funny since i saw a lot of mosques bombed and destroyed in Bosnia.
Even the Bosnian parliament you have bombed with people inside.
For not talking to the genocide, and the mass graves found all around Serbia.
That's funny since the monstrous crimes you have made in Kosovo are well documented, and the mass graves had Albanian victims not Serbian one.
You Serbs are really funny people. Amnesia is your friend when it convenient to you.
That's funny since buried in mass graves the bodies of your victims, why you don't decided to burn them like Nazi did?
See, ISIS is still behind you when it comes to the crimes. See, that's really funny.
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@Jugolsavia
Oh dear, poor Serbs...suffering since the 14th century. hatred coming from Croats, Bosnians and Albanians. no wonder you people turn out paranoid, the same nonsense garbage has been drummed into you since before you're even conceived. this is why you have produced the second number of war criminals after Nazi Germany
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It is not clear while archaelogists are still struggling so much to find out what was happening in primitive ages: they should just study a bit the albanian way-of-life to understand life in Prehistory...
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RE: Albanian Gypsies from Kurdestan and Azerbaijan
Learn your own history.
Part of what is now Mountainous Karabagh and part of the Mil plain formed the historical province of Karabagh-Artsakh, which was one of the most important provinces in Caucasian Albania, the earliest state in Northern Azerbaijan. http://www.visions.az/history,93/
Meet Udis, ancient Albanians descendants
http://www.azernews.az/travel/67756.html
Udins - the ancient tribe who live primarily in Azerbaijan, are the descendants of the Caucasian Albanians. http://chai-khana.org/en/udins-the-descendants-of-albanians
Albanians are Kurds!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW7nLEBElZU
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Bring some salad and cake to toss at Easter, ok?
(Donkey Hoxha, 6 January 2016 16:35)
LOL no, they're supposed to throw eggs for Easter, not Christmas. No wonder the Serbs looked shocked and this made headlines. They were expecting ham and rakija.
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Of course Albanians are from Bakurê Kurdistanê! Their most common last name is Kurti! LOL
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I'm really not interested in the excuse you've concocted to justify your hostility while being too stupid to tell the difference between paramilitaries of the '90s and displaced pensioners and children you've never met today.
(Donkey Hoxha, 6 January 2016 19:16)
You dont get it do you. Serbs from Gjakova formed the paramilitaries, there is no difference between displaced pensioners and paramilitaries. Even if it wasnt them directly, they have oncles, sons, daughters who joined the paramilitaries. We lived in peace for centuries and over night they turned on us. People know them. Their faces, their names.
On top of that its the fault of your government because the crimes havent been prosecuted and all the murderers live now in peace in Serbia. Those protesters want justice, I want justice, and since your criminal government wont serve it, they will take it on everyone affiliated with them or with former paramilitary troops. The protest where right!! Maybe next time those "pilgrims" will ask their government for countability before they plan their next trip. If not, this will be the standard greeting. Unfortunately.
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@ Jugoslavia
I have checked. I find a lot of interesting things about Albanians.
Actually i find just the migration of Serbs in Balcan. Why?
From where Serbs came from? Just curious.
Azerbaijani language actually is something between slavic - iranian - Turkic language. It can not be related with Albanians but most probably with slavic, Iranian, Turkish people.
I have check a lot and i find that Kurdish and Albanian have nothing in common. Then i checked their folk music, and i find an Albanian lovely music.
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Pictures r worth a thousand words. These people look like Albanians only difference is that Udis are Eastern Orthodox and Albanians are muslim.
There's even a Hashim Thachi lookalike @1:44 and at the end they dance like Albanians. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw8f5DxXBgA
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lobla
This is a blatant lie.
I challenge you to find any article or prove that Albanians supported Nazis. There was only ONE group of about 6500 Soldiers. The majority fought nazionalism and faschism just like the rest of Europe. Why do you think is it that Israel support Albanians?! It was Albanians, specially in the mountains that protected Jews even though surrounded by Italian faschist and German nazis.
Albanians received (almost 3x more than serbs) certificates "The Righteous Among The Nations" from Israel for the protection of jews during holocaust. http://www.yadvashem.org/yv/en/righteous/index.asp#!prettyPhoto
See Statement of Benjamin Netanyahu about Albania http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Netanyahu-to-Albanian-PM-Our-friendship-goes-back-to-Albania-protecting-Jews-from-Nazis-437943
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RE; Albanians declaration of war against US-Nazi Axis
Albanians were part of the Axis of Evil with the Nazi's and declared war on the US as did Croatia, Romania and Hungary. Serbia never declared war on the US under the Nedic regime.
What Albania did do is dispose of King Zog, attacked Greece along with Albania and were trounced. Finally, Germany stepped in and then the Albanians ally was given parts of Yugoslavia as a loyal ally. Albanians committed mass attrocities against the non-Albanians population of Serbs , Jews and Gypsies in Kosovo.
14 December 1941 – Croatia declared war on the United States of America and Great Britain.
16 December 1941 – Czechoslovak government in exile declares war on all countries at war with the United States of America, Great Britain and the Soviet Union.
17 December 1941 – Albania declared war on the United States of America.http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Declarations_of_War_during_World_War_II
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RE: Nuremburg Trials and Albanian Nazi's
World War II began in 1939 when Germany invaded Poland. Over the next few years, the European Axis powers (Germany, Italy, Albania, Bulgaria, Hungary, and Romania) successfully invaded and occupied France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Denmark, Norway, Greece, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, Finland, and the Netherlands. But when Adolf Hitler's troops invaded the Soviet Union, the Nazi war machine stalled. By the end of the war, the Axis powers were battered and beleaguered, and in 1945 they unconditionally surrendered to the United States, the Soviet Union, Great Britain, and France (the four Allied powers).http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Nuremberg+Trials
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Sure Albanians are harassing Serbs, that's 'cause they want MORE. Crazy crazy people!
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there is no difference between displaced pensioners and paramilitaries. Even if it wasnt them directly, they have oncles, sons, daughters who joined the paramilitaries. We lived in peace for centuries and over night they turned on us. People know them. Their faces, their names.
(Gjon Marku, 7 January 2016 08:12)
So you just admitted in the same sentence it doesn't matter if their pensioners or paramilitaries because you have a collective anger towards everyone. Which means not only are you incapable of separating the wars of the 90s with the peace of the 2010s, you're also too lazy and disinterested to do so because of your preset beliefs that seem to be more important in preserving. By your own logic, any Serb has the right to throw everything from apples to zucchini at any Albanian they see because of the possibility they either might have been part of the KLA, have relatives in the KLA, or simply have KLA sympathies.
And then you wonder in a previous article why Serbia seems to be incapable of facilitating good relations with neighboring states, when people like you in neighboring states (or people like you who write in the name of neighboring states) give them no reason to do so.
At the end, you're less the victim I'm supposed to feel sorry for than just an angry peasant upset that your ethnically pure town - a town you also admitted was rebuilt and gets on with its life - was besieged by two buses of pilgrims for one f*cking afternoon.
Poor little you.
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You are dismissed. Next!
(Gjon Marku, 8 January 2016 17:28)
Yes, lobla did a fine job proving there was Nazi collaboration among Albanians of Kosovo, which was annexed to Albania after the Nazi invasion of Yugoslavia in 1941, proving Albanians benefited from the invasion. You can mention all you want about Jews in Tirana being protected, but you can't deny Jews of Kosovo, as well as most other non-Albanians, were deported to death camps because Albanians there worked well with the Germans.
No need to dismiss factual evidence because you're trying to sound snarky. You've already proved your inability to accept objective evidence with you need for a comeback :)
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Udi man singing. Wow, same accent as Albanians from Kosovo. Same singing style too. I can see the connection. Looks are similar too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZEG__XA4V4
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Starting with you Donkey Hoxha since Hoxha is an Albanian surname my questIon to you is are you an actual Albanian or just pretending to be one? Nothing personal but you do or you've provided yourself a rather bizarre first name or nickname (I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.)
And as for you Hank the Tank after reading your comment where you mentioned something about Albanians being jealous my question to you is would you be jealous if I offer to do special things for pleasant Albanians (especially if I'm relating to them) instead of doing special things for non-Albanians who have an unpleasant character or personality?
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@ ( rote )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Dq5NaRd73c
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@ Jugoslavia
Muaaahahaaaa
The only thing to do now is to relate the roma people with Romans and Rome.
Just try and for sure you will find something. :)
O please check even about Serbs, you will find interesting things.
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(Jugoslavija, 7 January 2016 17:16)
I will not have any prob. descending from these "antique" christian people my dear Jugo. You know all the humans came from somewhere!
But, i actually the Caucasian Albania is one name given to the region from Romans, which mean "the white" Caucasian, referring to the white people in that region. You know Albanians - mean "the whites". You know Serbians - in latin mean "the servants".
Unfortunately those lovely christian people have nothing to do with us, neither in dna or language - they are more close to slavs (Russians, Ukrainians..).
Albanian language is an Indo european language with similarity in Germanic and Balltic languages - so if ever Albanians will ever came from somewhere will be just from these regions.
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lobla
Didnt I already said there was one group of about 6500 soldiers (ss skanderbeg). Your links only proves what I said.
I knew you would use google and all you would find is SS Skanderbeg, you fell for the bait. You herby lose the right to sit on the grown ups table because you failed to deliver the required proof and for the use of biased serb sources only.
You are dismissed. Next!
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RE; Turkish Albanian Dagestan Gypsies
The Caucasian Albanians (also spelled as Alban, Aghvan, Aghban, and Alpan) were a nation, which, according to the ancient geographer Strabo, consisted of 26 tribes, ethnic groups, such as Albans themselves, as well as Gargars, Udis, etc. Some of them were of Turkic descent, while majority were indigenous authohontous Caucasian tribes, speaking in Caucasian languages.
In addition, Herodotus in his "History" when describing the right side of Araxes river (Media/Iran) mentiones Abars (who eventually became Avars) and Bashigirhihi (today's Bashkirs). This proves that there were Turkic people in South Azerbaijan as well, albeit probably Iranian-speaking.http://www.zerbaijan.com/albania/caucasian-albania.html
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There were over 13,000 Serb homes and only 26 Albanian homes in the 14th century according to the Ottoman catacombs and census. As soon as the Albanian Gypsies migrated from Kurdestan and Azerbaijan they started the campaign of genocide and ethnic cleansing against all Serbs leaving them with less than 3% in Kosovo today.
(Jugoslavija, 6 January 2016 23:41)
If your definition of X committing genocide against Y is that X's share of population increases while Y's decreases, then Serbs also committed genocide against the Romans, because Serbs' share of population increased from 0% to 99% from the 1st century to the 14th century, while the share of Roman population decreased at the same time!
With your definition of genocide we would find few ethnic groups, if any, that did not committ genocide at some point in history. I'm not saying your definition is wrong; just applying it consistently.
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gjon,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21st_Waffen_Mountain_Division_of_the_SS_Skanderbeg
http://www.axishistory.com/axis-nations/119-germany-waffen-ss/germany-waffen-ss-divisions/1306-21-ss-waffen-gebirgs-division-der-ss-skanderbeg-albanische-nr-1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_persecution_of_Serbs
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/08/27/kosovo-americas-nazi-colony/
challenge complete with a bonus. not 1 serb sourced article. 1 american sourced one. i don't have all day to teach you your history, so please take these as a starting point.
what benny nuttywho-who says is oh so unimportant to this topic, these words coming from the man who cries holocaust-holocaust and brings down the a holocaust on the palestinians (but thats very far off topic). fine. albanians saved jews, but happily slaughtered serbs and roma, and deny this fact, just as you are.
seriously how hard was it for you to use google? how hard is it for you to accept these facts. you scream from the top of the world about serb this serb that, evil, evil, evil, not since nazis etc. but conveniently forget, whitewash and sweep away what your grandpappys, and greatuncles did.
while you lie to yourself, you'll never be at peace.
no denying serbs did plenty awful to some: that is fact. but you deny fact with your last breath... for shame!!!
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gjon,
it may have been few soldiers, who killed and estimated 30-40k... you cry over internationally estinmated 5k... simple maths ellude you... order of magnitude more killing by your great unlces and grandfathers... note that afterwards, those estimated 6500 weren't handed over by kosovars, but you cry that serbia hasn't handed their evil doers over.
dismiss yourself please. you show only biased, ill formed arguments that flail around like a wet paper-towel.
the number of people who perpetrate a crime does not diminish the crime. the severity of the crime is what is key.
it was 1 man, just 1 a single man who pressed the button to drop fat man, and one 1 pressed the button to drop little boy. these two men, are each responsible for the vaporization of hundreds of thousands each. is this less of a travesty because it was one man. no!.
so, i don't care if you and your bravery alone cleansed the estimated 250,000 serbs from kosova since 90s, or if it took all 2 million of you and your friends to do it. in the end the estimated 1/4 million serbs were expelled.
pre 8 godina
@ Italian Serbophile
Not really, all they have to do is read your comments, then they'll definitely get an accurate picture into their IQ levels
pre 8 godina
gjon, i think serbs get it. i think they get it more than you think you do.
see, from the outside, armed with some background history everything you are saying about how serbs terrorized albanians, murdered them, organized to slaughter them is exactly the same thing albanians did to serbs while they were allied with the nazis.
just like you will never forget about those uncles and brothers and sons of some serbs that killed albanians, serbs haven't forgotten those albanian uncles and brothers and sons who took part to slaughter, what is unfortunate for your argument, an order of magnitude more serbs in ww2 than serbs did to albanians in 90s. this is totals, not percentages, which would be even higher, but thats less relevant.
overall, if peace is what people want, then peace is what people need to create. if people do not want peace, if people do not want to reconcile, if people wish to continue to point fingers, then peace will not come. without a proper peace war is always looming around the corner, in all parts of the world, not specifically the tinderbox that is the balkans.
so the trepidations and fears and hatreds you're displaying towards serbs is what serbs felt from ww2 onwards within kosovo, and the 40 years following ww2, many left, and many claimed economics, but some claimed fear as their reasons, fear that they would not be safe as the demographics of the region shifted dramatically (by all accounts, not just titos).
pre 8 godina
@VladoChicago:
Your buddies are generalizing or appear to be generalizing about Albanians and what they are doing is wrong.I admit I dealt with some Albanian b92 viewers who offended me or irritated me but that doesn't mean that I'm going to blame all Albanians for the actions of a few just like I'm certain that your Bulgarian,Croat,Greek,Macedonian,Montenegrin,Rumanian & Serbian pals wouldn't appreciate it if someone negatively generalizes about their compatriots.
Finally when you claim that these friends of yours despise Albanians do they even despise Albanian Catholics & Orthodox Christians or only the Muslims they despise since most Albanians are regarded as Muslims.Like I indicated not all Albanians are troublemakers.
pre 8 godina
This spirit of darkness is at the heart of Islam and the people following its precepts do not even question the authenticity of a luciferic ideology that they are Told not to question over the fear of death or worse...Not to care or listen to anything that does not agree with a founder who was definitely not at all a holy man much less a man with morals.It's a great job of brainwashing though.
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