Mustaphawasevil ; “Rote, leader of you drunkards said that Kemal would role over his grave, if he saw Turkey today. That alone was by insult to orthodox christians everywhere.”
Yes it was a controversial statement. First because Mustafa Kemal was permanently drunk and died of cirrus of liver. Second because he didn’t cared much about Allah as well as his generals. Third because Ataturk hated the Ottomans and so did his generals. He seized power from the Ottomans who never spoke Turkish and had Russian Y-DNA. In 14-16 centuries the Great Porta was a Christian state with Greek patriarchs playing a big role in education , taxes and other matters. Since 17 century the empire became Muslim but before the Greek riot in 1821 Christians were never discriminated. Orthodox Slavs were registered here as millat-i Rum i.e. the Romans ! So it was different from what most of us think today. Bad were only the last 80-90 years of the empire when the Yanissary and the Mamelukes were massacred and Turkic people for the first time came to power.
Both prime ministers late on Monday spoke with the participants of the Serbia-Turkey business forum.
Any political observer knows pretty well that Davutoglu’s visit to Serbia has little or nothing to do with the Serbia-Turkey business forum and everything to do with reducing Turkey’s isolationism with the outside world which intensified after the coward downing of the Russian plane.It suffices to say that Erdogan had to crawl and kiss Netanyahu’s arse and begged him for forgiveness and rekindle their love & hate relationship.It’s very hard to calculate the damage that Turkey has inflicted upon itself.Russian tourism and trade is lost. His son’s business with ISIS oil is over. His say in any future political settlement in Syria is lost.What’s more, he doomed the very terrorists he ostensibly defended: Russia decimated Turkoman forces in North West Syria by fierce bombardment, and the survivors are now surrendering in droves to Syrian government forces.Syria is closing the part of Turkish border sultan used to rearm and resupply ISIS and other terrorists.That’s why Kurds are rejoicing.Strategically,having pushed Russia firmly to the Kurdish side, Turkey have accelerated the creation of independent Kurdistan.For those who don’t know,Kurds constitute about 1/3 of Turkey's population.Erdogan emasculated Turkish army by his attempts to Islamize it,which explains its lack of success against Kurds inside Turkey,despite clear advantage in heavy weapons.
Rote, leader of you drunkards said that Kemal would role over his grave, if he saw Turkey today. That alone was by insult to orthodox christians everywhere.
Turkey is in the zuzwang period of it history when their spoiled relations with 100% of their neighbors and most Europeans silently hate this unpredictable country. Turkey is desperately seeking for some international support of any kind. But everybody understands that such a support may have fatal consequences in relations with Russia who stepped on the war path already. So all countries whom Turkey asked to be a bridge to restore relations with Russia made empty diplomatic statements only. Because Russia means to avenge. The only idiotic exclusion is Serbia and it’s beyond of my understanding. If only Vucic is not seeking for a pretext to spoil relations with Russia and leave his people without it main and most reliable ally. What irritates me more is that Factman, MarKo and other commenters whom I had believed to be good Serbs made similar prostitute statements last night. When elites betray their people this I can understand because it happens too often throughout the history. But when common people say the same I refuse to understand it. You cannot be in the middle of the road all the time and time to choose comes sooner or later. Turkey is the most sensitive issue for the Russians today and if Serbia can afford to ignore it then be it so and ALLAH AKBAR ! But Inshallah not fog but the Serbian leaders will stop the dangerous development before it’s too late. Turkey is in a diplomatic isolation otherwise Davidson would not come here so soon.
Both prime ministers late on Monday spoke with the participants of the Serbia-Turkey business forum.
Any political observer knows pretty well that Davutoglu’s visit to Serbia has little or nothing to do with the Serbia-Turkey business forum and everything to do with reducing Turkey’s isolationism with the outside world which intensified after the coward downing of the Russian plane.It suffices to say that Erdogan had to crawl and kiss Netanyahu’s arse and begged him for forgiveness and rekindle their love & hate relationship.It’s very hard to calculate the damage that Turkey has inflicted upon itself.Russian tourism and trade is lost. His son’s business with ISIS oil is over. His say in any future political settlement in Syria is lost.What’s more, he doomed the very terrorists he ostensibly defended: Russia decimated Turkoman forces in North West Syria by fierce bombardment, and the survivors are now surrendering in droves to Syrian government forces.Syria is closing the part of Turkish border sultan used to rearm and resupply ISIS and other terrorists.That’s why Kurds are rejoicing.Strategically,having pushed Russia firmly to the Kurdish side, Turkey have accelerated the creation of independent Kurdistan.For those who don’t know,Kurds constitute about 1/3 of Turkey's population.Erdogan emasculated Turkish army by his attempts to Islamize it,which explains its lack of success against Kurds inside Turkey,despite clear advantage in heavy weapons.
Turkey is in the zuzwang period of it history when their spoiled relations with 100% of their neighbors and most Europeans silently hate this unpredictable country. Turkey is desperately seeking for some international support of any kind. But everybody understands that such a support may have fatal consequences in relations with Russia who stepped on the war path already. So all countries whom Turkey asked to be a bridge to restore relations with Russia made empty diplomatic statements only. Because Russia means to avenge. The only idiotic exclusion is Serbia and it’s beyond of my understanding. If only Vucic is not seeking for a pretext to spoil relations with Russia and leave his people without it main and most reliable ally. What irritates me more is that Factman, MarKo and other commenters whom I had believed to be good Serbs made similar prostitute statements last night. When elites betray their people this I can understand because it happens too often throughout the history. But when common people say the same I refuse to understand it. You cannot be in the middle of the road all the time and time to choose comes sooner or later. Turkey is the most sensitive issue for the Russians today and if Serbia can afford to ignore it then be it so and ALLAH AKBAR ! But Inshallah not fog but the Serbian leaders will stop the dangerous development before it’s too late. Turkey is in a diplomatic isolation otherwise Davidson would not come here so soon.
Rote, leader of you drunkards said that Kemal would role over his grave, if he saw Turkey today. That alone was by insult to orthodox christians everywhere.
Mustaphawasevil ; “Rote, leader of you drunkards said that Kemal would role over his grave, if he saw Turkey today. That alone was by insult to orthodox christians everywhere.”
Yes it was a controversial statement. First because Mustafa Kemal was permanently drunk and died of cirrus of liver. Second because he didn’t cared much about Allah as well as his generals. Third because Ataturk hated the Ottomans and so did his generals. He seized power from the Ottomans who never spoke Turkish and had Russian Y-DNA. In 14-16 centuries the Great Porta was a Christian state with Greek patriarchs playing a big role in education , taxes and other matters. Since 17 century the empire became Muslim but before the Greek riot in 1821 Christians were never discriminated. Orthodox Slavs were registered here as millat-i Rum i.e. the Romans ! So it was different from what most of us think today. Bad were only the last 80-90 years of the empire when the Yanissary and the Mamelukes were massacred and Turkic people for the first time came to power.
Turkey is in the zuzwang period of it history when their spoiled relations with 100% of their neighbors and most Europeans silently hate this unpredictable country. Turkey is desperately seeking for some international support of any kind. But everybody understands that such a support may have fatal consequences in relations with Russia who stepped on the war path already. So all countries whom Turkey asked to be a bridge to restore relations with Russia made empty diplomatic statements only. Because Russia means to avenge. The only idiotic exclusion is Serbia and it’s beyond of my understanding. If only Vucic is not seeking for a pretext to spoil relations with Russia and leave his people without it main and most reliable ally. What irritates me more is that Factman, MarKo and other commenters whom I had believed to be good Serbs made similar prostitute statements last night. When elites betray their people this I can understand because it happens too often throughout the history. But when common people say the same I refuse to understand it. You cannot be in the middle of the road all the time and time to choose comes sooner or later. Turkey is the most sensitive issue for the Russians today and if Serbia can afford to ignore it then be it so and ALLAH AKBAR ! But Inshallah not fog but the Serbian leaders will stop the dangerous development before it’s too late. Turkey is in a diplomatic isolation otherwise Davidson would not come here so soon.
Mustaphawasevil ; “Rote, leader of you drunkards said that Kemal would role over his grave, if he saw Turkey today. That alone was by insult to orthodox christians everywhere.”
Yes it was a controversial statement. First because Mustafa Kemal was permanently drunk and died of cirrus of liver. Second because he didn’t cared much about Allah as well as his generals. Third because Ataturk hated the Ottomans and so did his generals. He seized power from the Ottomans who never spoke Turkish and had Russian Y-DNA. In 14-16 centuries the Great Porta was a Christian state with Greek patriarchs playing a big role in education , taxes and other matters. Since 17 century the empire became Muslim but before the Greek riot in 1821 Christians were never discriminated. Orthodox Slavs were registered here as millat-i Rum i.e. the Romans ! So it was different from what most of us think today. Bad were only the last 80-90 years of the empire when the Yanissary and the Mamelukes were massacred and Turkic people for the first time came to power.
Rote, leader of you drunkards said that Kemal would role over his grave, if he saw Turkey today. That alone was by insult to orthodox christians everywhere.
Both prime ministers late on Monday spoke with the participants of the Serbia-Turkey business forum.
Any political observer knows pretty well that Davutoglu’s visit to Serbia has little or nothing to do with the Serbia-Turkey business forum and everything to do with reducing Turkey’s isolationism with the outside world which intensified after the coward downing of the Russian plane.It suffices to say that Erdogan had to crawl and kiss Netanyahu’s arse and begged him for forgiveness and rekindle their love & hate relationship.It’s very hard to calculate the damage that Turkey has inflicted upon itself.Russian tourism and trade is lost. His son’s business with ISIS oil is over. His say in any future political settlement in Syria is lost.What’s more, he doomed the very terrorists he ostensibly defended: Russia decimated Turkoman forces in North West Syria by fierce bombardment, and the survivors are now surrendering in droves to Syrian government forces.Syria is closing the part of Turkish border sultan used to rearm and resupply ISIS and other terrorists.That’s why Kurds are rejoicing.Strategically,having pushed Russia firmly to the Kurdish side, Turkey have accelerated the creation of independent Kurdistan.For those who don’t know,Kurds constitute about 1/3 of Turkey's population.Erdogan emasculated Turkish army by his attempts to Islamize it,which explains its lack of success against Kurds inside Turkey,despite clear advantage in heavy weapons.
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