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Thursday, 17.12.2015.

09:49

Ex-state security chiefs "planned crimes in Croatia, Bosnia"

Chief Hague Prosecutor Serge Brammertz says he is satisfied with <a href="http://www.b92.net/eng/news/crimes.php?yyyy=2015&mm=12&dd=16&nav_id=96382" class="text-link" target= "_blank">the decision to repeat the trial</a> of Jovica Stanisic and Franko Simatovic.

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iko

pre 8 godina

'Specific direction' was one of the three major points of the appeal which was clarified as "specific direction is not an element of aiding and abetting liability" which stands to any test of reason; commonsensical and even jurisprudential – otherwise any criminal who has not issued a specific direction can escape liability even though all other evidence suggests otherwise.
Methinks you protest verbosely too much, full of sound and fury perhaps, but still signifying nothing.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

The appeals chamber (AC) ruling is a prime example of systemic lunacy at the ICTY. Its mockery of justice is perfectly exemplified by the close to 100 page "decision" that contains absolutely no logical reasoning on the substantive issue of "specific direction". A trial chamber acquitted the accused. If there was justification to overcome reasonable doubt, the AC should have explained the reasoning and cited precedent for a legal conviction and overturned original acquittal. That 100 pages of gibberish without any legal reasoning was published to order.... RETRIAL(?!), speaks volumes about the half-witted dullards who poorly masquerade as judges at the ICTY.

Unfortunately, such blatant judicial dereliction and malpractice has irrevocably undermined international criminal law. The benefactors can continue to bomb "doctor's-without-borders" hospitals and kill innocent civilians with impunity.

iko

pre 8 godina

Serbia and its manipulations; financially, militarily, logistically and politically had orchestrated the destruction of Bosnia in the 90's - a calculated strategic incursion from without and within- initiated with their UN motion to impose an arms embargo upon 'itself' ( Yugoslavia- former and then current) after an enormous increase in arms imports into Serbia and a deluge of state controlled media propaganda inciting ethnic derision of non-Serbs and ending in the transfer of JNA collateral into the hands of the hitherto under equipped Bosnian Serbs and the formation of paramilitary death squads. The question is always: why only 2 from the state security service have been indicted?

Nenad

pre 8 godina

Naim, what makes you think Croats were any less guilty in the 90s? What would you call Herceg Bosna? Ever hear of Karadjordjevo? Having said that, I just hope that, however things turn out, justice gets served. The case against Stanisic is a bit complicated - while evidence I've seen in other trials clearly implicates his involvement in, for example, logistical planning prior to war in both Croatia and Bosnia, he at the same time is strongly believed to have worked for the CIA...and no doubt much of the evidence gathered against any ex-Yu politician or military officer would have been provided by foreign intelligence services such as the CIA. In fact, I believe it was once reported on this site that the CIA had put in a good word for Stanisic as he stood trial.

Sreten

pre 8 godina

Jovica Stanisic is a CIA scum , as the first trial have shown, and some Western newspapers wrote about it, Los Angeles Times, for example, in article "Serbian spy's trial lifts cloak on his CIA alliance"

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/mar/01/world/fg-serbia-spy-cia1

Certain things you just can't do, like being ISIL man, or Al-Qaeda man, or CIA man, and be decent person.
Lock this CIA shit for life.

Naim

pre 8 godina

It's just hero Ante Gatovina that over took and stopped these secret ideas - but unfortunately it stopped short. I kept saying in this forum hero Gatovina should have finished his job and gone further to Banja Luka so today B&H would be an EU member same as did Croatia after the action Hero Gatovina took to clean up.

Naim

pre 8 godina

It's just hero Ante Gatovina that over took and stopped these secret ideas - but unfortunately it stopped short. I kept saying in this forum hero Gatovina should have finished his job and gone further to Banja Luka so today B&H would be an EU member same as did Croatia after the action Hero Gatovina took to clean up.

Sreten

pre 8 godina

Jovica Stanisic is a CIA scum , as the first trial have shown, and some Western newspapers wrote about it, Los Angeles Times, for example, in article "Serbian spy's trial lifts cloak on his CIA alliance"

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/mar/01/world/fg-serbia-spy-cia1

Certain things you just can't do, like being ISIL man, or Al-Qaeda man, or CIA man, and be decent person.
Lock this CIA shit for life.

iko

pre 8 godina

Serbia and its manipulations; financially, militarily, logistically and politically had orchestrated the destruction of Bosnia in the 90's - a calculated strategic incursion from without and within- initiated with their UN motion to impose an arms embargo upon 'itself' ( Yugoslavia- former and then current) after an enormous increase in arms imports into Serbia and a deluge of state controlled media propaganda inciting ethnic derision of non-Serbs and ending in the transfer of JNA collateral into the hands of the hitherto under equipped Bosnian Serbs and the formation of paramilitary death squads. The question is always: why only 2 from the state security service have been indicted?

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

The appeals chamber (AC) ruling is a prime example of systemic lunacy at the ICTY. Its mockery of justice is perfectly exemplified by the close to 100 page "decision" that contains absolutely no logical reasoning on the substantive issue of "specific direction". A trial chamber acquitted the accused. If there was justification to overcome reasonable doubt, the AC should have explained the reasoning and cited precedent for a legal conviction and overturned original acquittal. That 100 pages of gibberish without any legal reasoning was published to order.... RETRIAL(?!), speaks volumes about the half-witted dullards who poorly masquerade as judges at the ICTY.

Unfortunately, such blatant judicial dereliction and malpractice has irrevocably undermined international criminal law. The benefactors can continue to bomb "doctor's-without-borders" hospitals and kill innocent civilians with impunity.

iko

pre 8 godina

'Specific direction' was one of the three major points of the appeal which was clarified as "specific direction is not an element of aiding and abetting liability" which stands to any test of reason; commonsensical and even jurisprudential – otherwise any criminal who has not issued a specific direction can escape liability even though all other evidence suggests otherwise.
Methinks you protest verbosely too much, full of sound and fury perhaps, but still signifying nothing.

Nenad

pre 8 godina

Naim, what makes you think Croats were any less guilty in the 90s? What would you call Herceg Bosna? Ever hear of Karadjordjevo? Having said that, I just hope that, however things turn out, justice gets served. The case against Stanisic is a bit complicated - while evidence I've seen in other trials clearly implicates his involvement in, for example, logistical planning prior to war in both Croatia and Bosnia, he at the same time is strongly believed to have worked for the CIA...and no doubt much of the evidence gathered against any ex-Yu politician or military officer would have been provided by foreign intelligence services such as the CIA. In fact, I believe it was once reported on this site that the CIA had put in a good word for Stanisic as he stood trial.

Nenad

pre 8 godina

Naim, what makes you think Croats were any less guilty in the 90s? What would you call Herceg Bosna? Ever hear of Karadjordjevo? Having said that, I just hope that, however things turn out, justice gets served. The case against Stanisic is a bit complicated - while evidence I've seen in other trials clearly implicates his involvement in, for example, logistical planning prior to war in both Croatia and Bosnia, he at the same time is strongly believed to have worked for the CIA...and no doubt much of the evidence gathered against any ex-Yu politician or military officer would have been provided by foreign intelligence services such as the CIA. In fact, I believe it was once reported on this site that the CIA had put in a good word for Stanisic as he stood trial.

Sreten

pre 8 godina

Jovica Stanisic is a CIA scum , as the first trial have shown, and some Western newspapers wrote about it, Los Angeles Times, for example, in article "Serbian spy's trial lifts cloak on his CIA alliance"

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/mar/01/world/fg-serbia-spy-cia1

Certain things you just can't do, like being ISIL man, or Al-Qaeda man, or CIA man, and be decent person.
Lock this CIA shit for life.

Naim

pre 8 godina

It's just hero Ante Gatovina that over took and stopped these secret ideas - but unfortunately it stopped short. I kept saying in this forum hero Gatovina should have finished his job and gone further to Banja Luka so today B&H would be an EU member same as did Croatia after the action Hero Gatovina took to clean up.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 8 godina

The appeals chamber (AC) ruling is a prime example of systemic lunacy at the ICTY. Its mockery of justice is perfectly exemplified by the close to 100 page "decision" that contains absolutely no logical reasoning on the substantive issue of "specific direction". A trial chamber acquitted the accused. If there was justification to overcome reasonable doubt, the AC should have explained the reasoning and cited precedent for a legal conviction and overturned original acquittal. That 100 pages of gibberish without any legal reasoning was published to order.... RETRIAL(?!), speaks volumes about the half-witted dullards who poorly masquerade as judges at the ICTY.

Unfortunately, such blatant judicial dereliction and malpractice has irrevocably undermined international criminal law. The benefactors can continue to bomb "doctor's-without-borders" hospitals and kill innocent civilians with impunity.

iko

pre 8 godina

Serbia and its manipulations; financially, militarily, logistically and politically had orchestrated the destruction of Bosnia in the 90's - a calculated strategic incursion from without and within- initiated with their UN motion to impose an arms embargo upon 'itself' ( Yugoslavia- former and then current) after an enormous increase in arms imports into Serbia and a deluge of state controlled media propaganda inciting ethnic derision of non-Serbs and ending in the transfer of JNA collateral into the hands of the hitherto under equipped Bosnian Serbs and the formation of paramilitary death squads. The question is always: why only 2 from the state security service have been indicted?

iko

pre 8 godina

'Specific direction' was one of the three major points of the appeal which was clarified as "specific direction is not an element of aiding and abetting liability" which stands to any test of reason; commonsensical and even jurisprudential – otherwise any criminal who has not issued a specific direction can escape liability even though all other evidence suggests otherwise.
Methinks you protest verbosely too much, full of sound and fury perhaps, but still signifying nothing.