Russia calls on Montenegro to hold referendum on NATO

Time for a regime change in Montenegro

Hold your panties ladies and gents. Russia calls for a democratic tool of governance. As the shining example for democracy, they have the right to call for a referendum. Specially since they are not, I repeat, they are not influencing the opposition thru Serbia because...

...Serbia is a "neutral" country and would never, under no circumstances, never ever, no way, nuh-uh... try to intervene in domestic questions of other sovereign countries.

Have you ever played with puppets...

Well that is what NATO is doing with its puppets in Montenegro... If under half the country is in support of joining NATO, the only fair thing to do in this situation and in a democracy is to call a referendum and let the people of montenegro decide their future, not some puppet MPs...

A referendum would clearly suggest a no vote for joining NATO and the puppet MPs know this and therefore they will not risk their NATO agenda on a referendum, their pockets have been lined, just a the pockets of judas escariots pockets were lined when he betrayed Jesus...

Who bombed Montenegro, who was the last alliance and group of countries to bomb Montenegro... It was NATO, and they never even apologised for the children they killed, the only response from NATO for killing innocent Montenegrin children was that this was collateral damage... That's what NATO thinks of people in Montenegro, there was no apology, no compensation, nothing, except, join us Montenegro, join our NATO alliance after we killed your people...

Tell me, tell me honestly, if someone killed members of your family and never apologise, never compensated you and they were never brought to justice, would you honestly join with them after what they did to you...? If that was my family, if someone did that to my children, I would behave completely opposite to the puppet government in Montenegro, I would not join them and I would seek justice...!

This is getting very interesting. I recall at the recent gathering in Podgorica Momir Bulatovic stating that a referendum is required before joining NATO otherwise unrest will break out in Montenegro while little Milo replied that only the parliament can decide. Now we have Moscow demanding a referendum. It isn’t over until the fat lady sings LOL.

Nobody cares about Montenegro. The fuss is over Serbia that will be surrounded to twist it’s hands off. Same is to happen in Georgia to cut Armenia off. The stakes are higher every day in almost every region of the world - Chinese Sea, ME, South Caucasus, Afghanistan, Balkans, Ukraine … Russia is the final target because without it China and the rest will surrender immediately.

Not your decision Russia. Of course threatening them with missiles probably didn't help. Will Putin now forbid Russians from traveling to Montenegro? And people seriously support that kind of dictatorship where you can travel only where your dear leader allows.

Russia does Rightly So -

http://thesaker.is/how-u-s-and-eu-manipulate-public-consciousness-montenegro/

Arn.Sweden.

Sasha, maybe they don't want to be labeled a 'a mafia state' anymore. Austrians gave up nazism and became prosperous, montes want to give up chetnikism.

To everthoughtifthat,
I think you mean Sasa,not Sasha.
Montenegro never had Chetniks for alest 70 years as well as Serb.
They got rid of Milosevic men . Communist where in power until 2002,and Draskovic Chetnik party have not ever ruled Serbia as A majority party,that's why Serbia and Montenegro don't have a King since 1941.
Maybe you mean Nazi's and Islamic Muslim's in power in Croatia ,Bosnia,and South of Serbia ( Pristina).As well Communist in Yugoslavia TITO( Croat) as well Slobo.
Montenegro leaders play ball with the West as they don't like to see a Italian Prison cell.Thaci as well waits a prison cell with them when their use by date expires!

Sj, is this the same Bulatovic who cried like a baby when his pappa Slobo questioned him for voting in favor of the Carrington plan.

@ factman
I don't understand you sir! You are a Serbs!
And Montenegrins made their choice. So, i don't understand what you are asking for?

-----

Montenegrins are Serbs.
Just like Kosovars are Albanians

Montenegro never had Chetniks for alest 70 years as well as Serb.
(sasa.p

You haven't been to MNE lately, have you?

@lk, just to remind you of the glorious leadership in america that does not allow its citizens to travel to cuba. i should say, in your words, dictatorship, shouldn't i. the free government of america does this to its free citizens because it has a political beef with another country.
and don't pretend that washington doesn't order its citizens into doing what it wants, and punishes those that don't follow the direct orders of the house of white. how many officers of the law, controlled by the government of the nation, have been seen on video assaulting citizens for various constitutionally legal activities, like protesting, or demonstrating their dissatisfaction. grandmas being pepper sprayed, by chicken-hawk police officers who hide behind their numbers, the flack jackets and their corrupt government, so that they don't have to face granny 1 on 1.
please, when talking about how evil someone else is, don't forget to look inwards. russia is not the only nation that imposes (or tries to) its will on other apparently free sovereign nations.

Sure Russia wants Referendum, but lets face it if Referendum won to split from Serbia so does Referendum to go to NATO which won't happen.

Russia wants its own interest and SJ - Bulatovic can say what he wants but this is old news will there be some protest or some attempts to derail sure but no stopping this. But nice try should they hold referendum while black masked NATO Solders are there Russian Crimea style?

Sj, is this the same Bulatovic who cried like a baby when his pappa Slobo questioned him for voting in favor of the Carrington plan.
(orirememberwong, 16 December 2015 14:24)

I have no idea if he cried. I only mentioned him because he was one of several people that spoke at that gathering who is well known.
These people do not make such statements without backing from someone more powerful. Your NATO is f*****ghg.

Montenegro GDP per capita 16 thousand $
Serbia. GDP per capita 13 thousand $

Why do serbian comentators say Montenegro is worse than Serbia?
Figures dont lie.

Alot of people are wrong,Russian money is invested in hotels in Montenegro and Turkey.Alot of Russian Tourists travel to Montenegro and Turkey. So going to war with Montenegro in the future is not good,for Russian investment's in Montenegro.

Just be careful don't make mistake to cross the NATO air space for few seconds because you get smashed..SAME AS YIU DID.
No. One listen to you any more.
Wellcome MNE join your neighbours - Albania Criatia and soon Macedonia - forget Russia..

Hi Lenard !

Do you still believe tha Croatia is so signficiant ? Then why not ask for a seat among the UN SC permanent members ? If you really equip the 1500 men strong Montenegrin army you must be really Great !
(rote, 17 December 2015 15:43) O ya Rote very significant. We were on as non permanent member very dysfunctional organization. We train, equip etc Montenegrin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_smlrySHOUw and they are part of Croatian battle groups as most Yugo republics. We are great we are mentioned in the bible and God says are star is on the rise unstoppable.

Montenegro 16 thousand $ GDP per capita
Serbia 13 thousand $ GDP per capita...

I don't know why you are arguing for Montenegro when they make more money than Serbs.

@ factman

I don't understand you sir! You are a Serbs!
And Montenegrins made their choice. So, i don't understand what you are asking for?

Comment - Russia will never ever surrender to the West.

China and Japan not either butt will be beaten to defeat.

Arn.Sweden.

Wrong!
PUTIN - will never surrender to the west!
If Putin decide to go - we will see what will be next.
For sure Russia will not be the same.

@lk, just to remind you of the glorious leadership in america that does not allow its citizens to travel to cuba.
(kl, 16 December 2015 22:11) "

American citizens have been able to travel to Cuba for decades. Not sure where you get your information, but it's even easier now and airlines are actually flying directly to Havana now. In the past, Americans had to usually first travel to Mexico then Cuba, but not anymore. As you should know, Cuba was under an economic embargo for allowing Russian nukes on its soil, but there is no actual travel ban.

Montenegro will be fine without Serbia and Russia. Croatia is helping Montenegro with tourism agreements and is working with good results. It's armed forces are dressed in Croatian equipment head to toe. They also train at Croatian bases. They also know who to be weary of.

Just be careful don't make mistake to cross the NATO air space for few seconds because you get smashed..SAME AS YIU DID.
No. One listen to you any more.
Wellcome MNE join your neighbours - Albania Criatia and soon Macedonia - forget Russia..
(Naim, 17 December 2015 00:25)

The three musketeers eh? Has Albanian enough catapults to attack any non-NATO aircraft? I hope you no stand-up comedians because you will starve LOL.

Go cry me a river,
Who is in power!,not Chetniks,so you meet afew Chetniks in Montenegro, I meet a few Chinese ,Swedish, et can't say its run by China, and Sweden etc.
Mile is not a Chetnik or a Communist, is a mobster which will either get killed or see a jail cell in the future!.
To all the knuckleheads, their is NO Chetniks in power anywhere in the world ,again for the knuckleheads, remember THAT!

I Quote -

(rote, 16 December 2015 14:10)

Comment - Russia will never ever surrender to the West.

China and Japan not either butt will be beaten to defeat.

Arn.Sweden.

Here is a money saving idea. Elections for the Montenegrin Parliament are due before 21st October 2016 so you could add a question to the ballot paper and avoid the expense of a referendum. Either that or make the election very much an issue of joining NATO or not, although I suspect that support or lack thereof for membership does not necessary split along party lines.

Montenegro GDP per capita 16 thousand $
Serbia. GDP per capita 13 thousand $

Why do serbian comentators say Montenegro is worse than Serbia?
Figures dont lie.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 17 December 2015 02:51)

I do love this, they always head for the GDP footlocker. First visit Montenegro then come back to me and tell me how its GDP is far superior to Serbia’s income stream.
Try and stop looking up the CIA so called world facts book. Otherwise you will also believe that the US has only 5% unemployment and the reason for raising interest rates is due to a vibrant economy.

Lenard : "Montenegro will be fine without Serbia and Russia. Croatia is helping Montenegro with tourism agreements and is working with good results. It's armed forces are dressed in Croatian equipment head to toe. They also train at Croatian bases. They also know who to be weary of."


Hi Lenard !

Do you still believe tha Croatia is so signficiant ? Then why not ask for a seat among the UN SC permanent members ? If you really equip the 1500 men strong Montenegrin army you must be really Great !

@lk, taken from US Passports and International Travel, last updated oct 16 2015:

Tourist travel to Cuba is prohibited under U.S. law for U.S. citizens, permanent residents, and others subject to U.S. jurisdiction.

travel to cuba (the country in question) is PRO----HIBITED (not allowed), (not, not-allowed, but strictly not allowed) under US law (against the law, the law of that country, the country america america) for its own citizens and those that aren't even citizens.

We are great we are mentioned in the bible and God says are star is on the rise unstoppable.
(Lenard, 17 December 2015 18:05)

I knew it, you hear voices from God. Take another pill and have a nice rest and all the bogeymen will go away.

Hold your panties ladies and gents. Russia calls for a democratic tool of governance. As the shining example for democracy, they have the right to call for a referendum. Specially since they are not, I repeat, they are not influencing the opposition thru Serbia because...

...Serbia is a "neutral" country and would never, under no circumstances, never ever, no way, nuh-uh... try to intervene in domestic questions of other sovereign countries.

This is getting very interesting. I recall at the recent gathering in Podgorica Momir Bulatovic stating that a referendum is required before joining NATO otherwise unrest will break out in Montenegro while little Milo replied that only the parliament can decide. Now we have Moscow demanding a referendum. It isn’t over until the fat lady sings LOL.

Time for a regime change in Montenegro

Have you ever played with puppets...

Well that is what NATO is doing with its puppets in Montenegro... If under half the country is in support of joining NATO, the only fair thing to do in this situation and in a democracy is to call a referendum and let the people of montenegro decide their future, not some puppet MPs...

A referendum would clearly suggest a no vote for joining NATO and the puppet MPs know this and therefore they will not risk their NATO agenda on a referendum, their pockets have been lined, just a the pockets of judas escariots pockets were lined when he betrayed Jesus...

Who bombed Montenegro, who was the last alliance and group of countries to bomb Montenegro... It was NATO, and they never even apologised for the children they killed, the only response from NATO for killing innocent Montenegrin children was that this was collateral damage... That's what NATO thinks of people in Montenegro, there was no apology, no compensation, nothing, except, join us Montenegro, join our NATO alliance after we killed your people...

Tell me, tell me honestly, if someone killed members of your family and never apologise, never compensated you and they were never brought to justice, would you honestly join with them after what they did to you...? If that was my family, if someone did that to my children, I would behave completely opposite to the puppet government in Montenegro, I would not join them and I would seek justice...!

Sure Russia wants Referendum, but lets face it if Referendum won to split from Serbia so does Referendum to go to NATO which won't happen.

Russia wants its own interest and SJ - Bulatovic can say what he wants but this is old news will there be some protest or some attempts to derail sure but no stopping this. But nice try should they hold referendum while black masked NATO Solders are there Russian Crimea style?

Nobody cares about Montenegro. The fuss is over Serbia that will be surrounded to twist it’s hands off. Same is to happen in Georgia to cut Armenia off. The stakes are higher every day in almost every region of the world - Chinese Sea, ME, South Caucasus, Afghanistan, Balkans, Ukraine … Russia is the final target because without it China and the rest will surrender immediately.

Alot of people are wrong,Russian money is invested in hotels in Montenegro and Turkey.Alot of Russian Tourists travel to Montenegro and Turkey. So going to war with Montenegro in the future is not good,for Russian investment's in Montenegro.

Not your decision Russia. Of course threatening them with missiles probably didn't help. Will Putin now forbid Russians from traveling to Montenegro? And people seriously support that kind of dictatorship where you can travel only where your dear leader allows.

Russia does Rightly So -

http://thesaker.is/how-u-s-and-eu-manipulate-public-consciousness-montenegro/

Arn.Sweden.

To everthoughtifthat,
I think you mean Sasa,not Sasha.
Montenegro never had Chetniks for alest 70 years as well as Serb.
They got rid of Milosevic men . Communist where in power until 2002,and Draskovic Chetnik party have not ever ruled Serbia as A majority party,that's why Serbia and Montenegro don't have a King since 1941.
Maybe you mean Nazi's and Islamic Muslim's in power in Croatia ,Bosnia,and South of Serbia ( Pristina).As well Communist in Yugoslavia TITO( Croat) as well Slobo.
Montenegro leaders play ball with the West as they don't like to see a Italian Prison cell.Thaci as well waits a prison cell with them when their use by date expires!

Sasha, maybe they don't want to be labeled a 'a mafia state' anymore. Austrians gave up nazism and became prosperous, montes want to give up chetnikism.

Montenegro GDP per capita 16 thousand $
Serbia. GDP per capita 13 thousand $

Why do serbian comentators say Montenegro is worse than Serbia?
Figures dont lie.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 17 December 2015 02:51)

I do love this, they always head for the GDP footlocker. First visit Montenegro then come back to me and tell me how its GDP is far superior to Serbia’s income stream.
Try and stop looking up the CIA so called world facts book. Otherwise you will also believe that the US has only 5% unemployment and the reason for raising interest rates is due to a vibrant economy.

Sj, is this the same Bulatovic who cried like a baby when his pappa Slobo questioned him for voting in favor of the Carrington plan.
(orirememberwong, 16 December 2015 14:24)

I have no idea if he cried. I only mentioned him because he was one of several people that spoke at that gathering who is well known.
These people do not make such statements without backing from someone more powerful. Your NATO is f*****ghg.

Just be careful don't make mistake to cross the NATO air space for few seconds because you get smashed..SAME AS YIU DID.
No. One listen to you any more.
Wellcome MNE join your neighbours - Albania Criatia and soon Macedonia - forget Russia..

Go cry me a river,
Who is in power!,not Chetniks,so you meet afew Chetniks in Montenegro, I meet a few Chinese ,Swedish, et can't say its run by China, and Sweden etc.
Mile is not a Chetnik or a Communist, is a mobster which will either get killed or see a jail cell in the future!.
To all the knuckleheads, their is NO Chetniks in power anywhere in the world ,again for the knuckleheads, remember THAT!

We are great we are mentioned in the bible and God says are star is on the rise unstoppable.
(Lenard, 17 December 2015 18:05)

I knew it, you hear voices from God. Take another pill and have a nice rest and all the bogeymen will go away.

Sj, is this the same Bulatovic who cried like a baby when his pappa Slobo questioned him for voting in favor of the Carrington plan.

I Quote -

(rote, 16 December 2015 14:10)

Comment - Russia will never ever surrender to the West.

China and Japan not either butt will be beaten to defeat.

Arn.Sweden.

Montenegro never had Chetniks for alest 70 years as well as Serb.
(sasa.p

You haven't been to MNE lately, have you?

@lk, just to remind you of the glorious leadership in america that does not allow its citizens to travel to cuba. i should say, in your words, dictatorship, shouldn't i. the free government of america does this to its free citizens because it has a political beef with another country.
and don't pretend that washington doesn't order its citizens into doing what it wants, and punishes those that don't follow the direct orders of the house of white. how many officers of the law, controlled by the government of the nation, have been seen on video assaulting citizens for various constitutionally legal activities, like protesting, or demonstrating their dissatisfaction. grandmas being pepper sprayed, by chicken-hawk police officers who hide behind their numbers, the flack jackets and their corrupt government, so that they don't have to face granny 1 on 1.
please, when talking about how evil someone else is, don't forget to look inwards. russia is not the only nation that imposes (or tries to) its will on other apparently free sovereign nations.

Montenegro 16 thousand $ GDP per capita
Serbia 13 thousand $ GDP per capita...

I don't know why you are arguing for Montenegro when they make more money than Serbs.

Montenegro GDP per capita 16 thousand $
Serbia. GDP per capita 13 thousand $

Why do serbian comentators say Montenegro is worse than Serbia?
Figures dont lie.

Montenegro will be fine without Serbia and Russia. Croatia is helping Montenegro with tourism agreements and is working with good results. It's armed forces are dressed in Croatian equipment head to toe. They also train at Croatian bases. They also know who to be weary of.

Just be careful don't make mistake to cross the NATO air space for few seconds because you get smashed..SAME AS YIU DID.
No. One listen to you any more.
Wellcome MNE join your neighbours - Albania Criatia and soon Macedonia - forget Russia..
(Naim, 17 December 2015 00:25)

The three musketeers eh? Has Albanian enough catapults to attack any non-NATO aircraft? I hope you no stand-up comedians because you will starve LOL.

Lenard : "Montenegro will be fine without Serbia and Russia. Croatia is helping Montenegro with tourism agreements and is working with good results. It's armed forces are dressed in Croatian equipment head to toe. They also train at Croatian bases. They also know who to be weary of."


Hi Lenard !

Do you still believe tha Croatia is so signficiant ? Then why not ask for a seat among the UN SC permanent members ? If you really equip the 1500 men strong Montenegrin army you must be really Great !

@ factman

I don't understand you sir! You are a Serbs!
And Montenegrins made their choice. So, i don't understand what you are asking for?

Comment - Russia will never ever surrender to the West.

China and Japan not either butt will be beaten to defeat.

Arn.Sweden.

Wrong!
PUTIN - will never surrender to the west!
If Putin decide to go - we will see what will be next.
For sure Russia will not be the same.

@ factman
I don't understand you sir! You are a Serbs!
And Montenegrins made their choice. So, i don't understand what you are asking for?

-----

Montenegrins are Serbs.
Just like Kosovars are Albanians

@lk, just to remind you of the glorious leadership in america that does not allow its citizens to travel to cuba.
(kl, 16 December 2015 22:11) "

American citizens have been able to travel to Cuba for decades. Not sure where you get your information, but it's even easier now and airlines are actually flying directly to Havana now. In the past, Americans had to usually first travel to Mexico then Cuba, but not anymore. As you should know, Cuba was under an economic embargo for allowing Russian nukes on its soil, but there is no actual travel ban.

Hi Lenard !

Do you still believe tha Croatia is so signficiant ? Then why not ask for a seat among the UN SC permanent members ? If you really equip the 1500 men strong Montenegrin army you must be really Great !
(rote, 17 December 2015 15:43) O ya Rote very significant. We were on as non permanent member very dysfunctional organization. We train, equip etc Montenegrin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_smlrySHOUw and they are part of Croatian battle groups as most Yugo republics. We are great we are mentioned in the bible and God says are star is on the rise unstoppable.

Here is a money saving idea. Elections for the Montenegrin Parliament are due before 21st October 2016 so you could add a question to the ballot paper and avoid the expense of a referendum. Either that or make the election very much an issue of joining NATO or not, although I suspect that support or lack thereof for membership does not necessary split along party lines.

@lk, taken from US Passports and International Travel, last updated oct 16 2015:

Tourist travel to Cuba is prohibited under U.S. law for U.S. citizens, permanent residents, and others subject to U.S. jurisdiction.

travel to cuba (the country in question) is PRO----HIBITED (not allowed), (not, not-allowed, but strictly not allowed) under US law (against the law, the law of that country, the country america america) for its own citizens and those that aren't even citizens.