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Tuesday, 27.10.2015.

14:47

EU signs SAA with Kosovo

Kosovo has signed the Stabilization and Association Agreement (SAA) with the European Union in Strasbourg on Tuesday.

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Joni

pre 8 godina

(rote, 28 October 2015 20:42)
That comment was not written by "me" - i mean is another Joni. ( i feel i little like that Bob in fact ).
Your comment begin with an irresponsibility since the beginning : “to pay out this disgraceful debt”. Which debt??
If you are responsible – just be fair! But you are not!
You claim Crimea for the same reason that Albanians claim Kosovo – but you don't recognize Kosovo!
In ex. Yugoslavia cadastral registers 90 % of the Kosovo land belonged to Albanians. Now 98 %!
Albanians in Kosovo were for 500 years under Turks, for 100 years under Serbs and still are the majority in Kosovo! That’s all!
Yes, Albanian heritage in Kosovo is destroyed. As we know nothing Catholic survived – just Orthodox one and Muslim!
Serbs brought Orthodoxism in Kosovo as much as Turks brought Islam! But who lived in, were always Albanians and those monasteries were always guarded from Albanians not Serbs. ( according to those old churches documents, no? ).

icj1

pre 8 godina

The EU, together the US, are in great fear of Russia and I mean they are petrified.
(sj, 28 October 2015 11:36)

Yup, I totally agree as always with the CE of B92 forums sj... When I visited EU and US, everybody I met with was telling me about his/her fear of Russia. There was nothing else anybody was concerned about, other than fear of Russia. There was panic everywhere and everybody was petrified of being at Russia's mercy.

It's so great that the CE of B92 forums sj in person is validating my experience and now the most patriotic of Serbs can finally celebrate that the EU and US are at Russia's mercy. It's a mistery why Russia hasn't told them yet to return Kosovo, the craddle of Serbdom to Serbia, but I'm sure that is going to happen soon, as soon as the CE of 92 forums sj decides it.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 8 godina

The standard of living has fallen in the US and this is no big secret.

Yes there are pockets in the US where jobs are plentiful, but overall it’s the reverse and if you have 100 million out of 320 million living in poverty then you are in a worse position than during the Great Depression.
(sj, 28 October 2015 23:29)

Of course. That CE of B92 forums sj has ruled about that long ago. Unfortunately people are so stupid to rely on their personal experience and not on what the CE of B92 forums sj says. But, I'm sure that once they read the eye-opening teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj, those 100 million Americans will ask China for immigration visas.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sj

pre 8 godina

(pss, 28 October 2015 14:55)

The standard of living has fallen in the US and this is no big secret. Even the Wall Street Journal has covered this story on a couple of occasions. The US will have as of December 2015 20 trillion in debt and its borrowing another trillion for 2016. So far all the US has done is pay interest on that debt. Not one cent has been paid of the principle loan.
Its the frog in the pot scenario. The frog does not notice that the water is getting hot until its too late and the same with the people in the US. Some are well aware, but their voices are not heard on the free media. Yes there are pockets in the US where jobs are plentiful, but overall it’s the reverse and if you have 100 million out of 320 million living in poverty then you are in a worse position than during the Great Depression.
Its not just the Albanian opposition carrying on, the very fact that you are going to have a Bosnia style scenario defeats the very purpose of a so called independent Kosovo. I have been to Kosovo and I have seen it first hand and I know why most would leave if the doors to the EU are opened.
My dear fellow the Russians are bombing the absolute crap out of the so called Free Syrian Army and all others that oppose Assad and the west just sits there. Now the US wants to invite Iran to these talks…hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rote

pre 8 godina

“even Russia left you behind in Bobbing time 1999..”

(Joni,)


Joni you don’t have to add salt to the injured place as Russians just wait for the moment to pay out this disgraceful debt. You won’t believe but at least once a month someone recalls it over the TV. And they don’t seek for soft words calling spade a spade. Treason-betrayal-предательство is the most used word though we were an occupied state ourselves. Just be patient and you will see that Russians are a responsible people.

pss

pre 8 godina

sj,
I have listened to how desolate life is here in the US from you for 6+ years. I will just let you live your dream because not much you can say about the US that is going to change what I know.
As far as the Albanian parliament, if you had a clue you would know that the "opposition" is the party of Albin Kurti, who has been protesting from day one since the passing of resolution 1244 was passed. He does not want any Serbs in Kosovo, He does not want any international forces in Kosovo, He does not want any international oversight of an Albanian Kosovo. He protested UNMIK, he protested EULEX and he has been against the Brussels talk from the start. So trying to say this present show is because they suddenly discovered some betrayal in the Brussels agreement shows you are on here spewing typical Serbian propaganda nothing more.
Russia in Syria, is nothing but a show. There is no declare war of such and their actions are limited and kept to a nonconfrontational level with western and middle east forces.
Its a shame though I think you had the potential to be a well versed man at some point, before you allowed your Serbian prejudices to completely overtake your thinking.

sj

pre 8 godina

(pss, 28 October 2015 10:14)

I very strongly suggest that you travel to Europe and see how well they are going in the EU. I spent 6 months there.
The EU, together the US, are in great fear of Russia and I mean they are petrified. Just look at what Moscow has done; they have gone into Syria destroyed large elements of the opposition to Assad and the west sits in a corner silent.
Lad, If the EU accepts Kosovo totally then why do they need Serbia? Why the talks with Pristina? Meanwhile your Albanians are throwing tear gas in parliament over the Brussels agreement signed with the Serbs. Do they smell a sell out?
Here is more crap for you, Obama is close to having agreement on extending the level of US debt so they can take up another trillion for next year. Meanwhile 100 Americans live below the poverty line and survive off food stamps.
The music has stopped and only the loons don’t understand that fact.

sj

pre 8 godina

Could someone explain why Albanians in EU present themselves to neigburs as Yugoslavians?
(viva, 28 October 2015 10:57)

Very simple question answer. I’ve spent time in Europe and the term Albanian does not carry a nice connotation since their reputation as drug runners and criminals is well known in Europe so to hide that fact they call themselves Yugoslavians.

sj

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 28 October 2015 03:03)

Careful B92 our resident AI has caught you out. It sees and hears things that the average person does not. It keeps are sharp eye out on inconsistencies and talks to the dead.

PS AI = Albanian Idiot

pss

pre 8 godina

And what does this mean? Absolutely nothing. Will it allow the little Albos to walk freely throughout the EU? Not on your life. In fact many will be returned to that Albo paradise called Kosova.

Its fun to watch the Albos open wide their eyes as if pearls fall from heaven thinking that the SAA really means something. Its all too little too late. The EU is running short of cash and all you guys will get is the back hand of Brussels if you don't behave.
(sj, 28 October 2015 05:32)
What it means is that despite the lonely 5, the EU as an entity accepts Kosovo totally separate from Serbia. And puts forth the message that Serbia will never enter claiming Kosovo as its own.
Good to see you back, others fail miserably with your ability to post bull crap!

Joni

pre 8 godina

Guys just to let you know something everyone in this planet is trying to go forward and you as a nation still behind you have to stop one day All Europian countris they know how killers you are in less then 10 years you are the only coutery make a war not only with Kosovians but with Croates Bosnain sllobanian with everyone.Do you thing that Europian will trust you no not at all.We know that you came from Siberia years ago but now you took place in balkan so you have to be integrated.Guys enjoy your life because we have just one and leave behind the stories bc no one like to have a dangerous animal in the house even Russia left you behind in Bobbing time 1999..

sj

pre 8 godina

And what does this mean? Absolutely nothing. Will it allow the little Albos to walk freely throughout the EU? Not on your life. In fact many will be returned to that Albo paradise called Kosova.

Its fun to watch the Albos open wide their eyes as if pearls fall from heaven thinking that the SAA really means something. Its all too little too late. The EU is running short of cash and all you guys will get is the back hand of Brussels if you don't behave.

Navi

pre 8 godina

They forgot about Kosovo when they did it :)
(Avni, 27 October 2015 21:32)

It's because they want to get into the EU sometime this century. Besides, it's not like the EU hasn't given them everything they need in Kosovo. Serb areas will benefit as soon as Serbia joins. The Albanian parts will be empty by the time the rest of Kosovo joins because everyone will have left for Germany right after visa-free travel agreements were made.

icj1

pre 8 godina

B92, I hope you provided some anger management medication to your news "reporter" who wrote this story... Given the way this story is written, he/she appears to have had a bad day :)

Brian

pre 8 godina

How is this a defeat for Serbia when in Brussels it agreed official Serbia policy would be "not to block or encourage others to block Kosovo eu path" and according to b92 and ipsos 63% of Serbia says kosovo is independent.

ItalianoAmericano

pre 8 godina

"I've lost count how many times Serbia was ordered to lower her pants before signing the SAA. Didn't it take you guys like 3 or 5 years, and had to give up Mladic and Karadjic e company before you could sign the SAA. I'm pretty sure it must have meant something to you, to have gone through all that trouble to get it.
But don't let me stop the Serbian circus, that gets especially colorful when you have a big blow in your face. "

^^Exactly. Ole Boris did whatever was asked of him.

" By the way to me it's interesting how Serbs when signing SSP with EU didn't say without Kosovo we won't do it. They forgot about Kosovo when they did it :)"

Haha! A very good point!! I suspect the EU told them beforehand to not even try that weak sauce.

Tony (a Brit in Berlin)

pre 8 godina

A so-called "independent" Kosovo is the last thing the EU wants or needs. We already have enough Albanians posing as Syrian refugees in the EU and I am more than happy that these Albanians will NOT be given refugee status and will be sent back to their hovels in the Balkans. They do not deserve anything from the EU apart from condemnation.

Reader

pre 8 godina

This is a far more important step than joining Unesco for Kosovo but the noise surrounding Unesco was much louder in Serbia. Go figure!

About the carrot and the stick comment, Kosovo got the carrot, but Serbia got the stick, no opening of chapter 35 yet, despite all the grand declarations from Serbian politicians. It shows who is being rewarded and who is behaving in accordance with EU principles and who is not.

Avni

pre 8 godina

Now I know why Serbian PM is in Russia. Didn't want to deal with Serbs about this defeat. By the way to me it's interesting how Serbs when signing SSP with EU didn't say without Kosovo we won't do it. They forgot about Kosovo when they did it :)

Paul

pre 8 godina

The EU doesn't really want Serbia in the EU, but only because they fear Serbian influence. But the EU doesn't really want Kosovo as an independent state in the EU because Kosovo as an independent state is a mess and would do more damage that Greece ever did.

Who would be worse, do you think? Turkey in the EU or Kosovo? Imagine what the illegal immigration problem would be like if Turkey were in the EU? Turkey is where all the "migrants" are coming from. Well they wouldn't be illegal any more would they?

EU Dude

pre 8 godina

So, nothing learned since Bulgaria and Romania despite all comments to the contrary.

The only thing my neighbors across the road here in Brussels are encouraging is the continued organized crime syndicate that runs the albanian controlled bit of Kosovo and hoping it gets better by magic.

Only a month ago there was an albanian organized crime assassination in the center, the driver killed and the woman injured:

http://www.rtl.be/info/regions/bruxelles/fusillade-dans-le-centre-de-bruxelles-un-mort-et-un-blesse-grave-photos--757516.aspx

..On ignore les circonstances exactes des tirs ainsi que l'identité des victimes. Mais d'après les premiers éléments de l'enquête, il s'agirait d'un règlement de comptes entre bandes criminelles albanaises...

InKindPayment

pre 8 godina

I've lost count how many times Serbia was ordered to lower her pants before signing the SAA. Didn't it take you guys like 3 or 5 years, and had to give up Mladic and Karadjic e company before you could sign the SAA. I'm pretty sure it must have meant something to you, to have gone through all that trouble to get it.
But don't let me stop the Serbian circus, that gets especially colorful when you have a big blow in your face.

BTW, I thought Serbian is derived from Arabic, isn't after all your script a variant of the the Arabic alphabet?

Adrian Gashi

pre 8 godina

"Although Kosovo officials are trying portray this event as a step towards the accession of Kosovo to the EU, the organization's officials pointed out that this is not the case."

B92, you're scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

Here's how Serbia's European Integration Office describes it's own SAA:
"The Stabilization and Association Agreement (SAA) is an international treaty, whose signing will grant Serbia the status of associated state to the EU. "

And here's what Wikipedia says: "The accession of Serbia to the European Union is the process of the Republic of Serbia being admitted into the framework of the European Union as a member state.
On 7 November 2007, Serbia initialed a Stabilization and Association Agreement (SAA) with the European Union. This was a milestone in Serbia's accession negotiations ..."

Sumadinac

pre 8 godina

This is great! A little carrot to albanians which will make it harder for their extremists to motivate why they oppose the Brussels agreement. Now time to get it fully implemented including the ZSO. I'm sure Albin Kurti and friends are grinding their teeth. Where do we send the wire Thaci?

Zoran

pre 8 godina

thats it Zoran, if reality is too hard to deal, dabbling in fantasy will get us through the day
(Nikolle, 27 October 2015 16:31)
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Haha, you got me there. You're right, I made the comment about learning Arabic up. Arabic or Albanian all sound the same to Europeans so claiming to be Syrians will still work.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

whoever wrote this article seems to have been stung at the heart by this latest development. quoting an anonymous source means absolutely nothing. and what on earth is this wording :"Ethnic Albanians in this southern Serbian province..."...this Serbian province? dear oh dear. advise to journalist, don't drink rakia before writing, its not good for you

Navi

pre 8 godina

Since when does the EU grant SAA to territories? Looks like Kosovo will never be a state now since the EU recognized it as something other than a state.

Zoran

pre 8 godina

This is quite funny. The EU offers Turkey accelerated membership if it helps deal with the refugee issue currently flooding the EU and now, "Kosova"***, signs the SAA accelerated, presumably to keep migrants out of the EU.

In case anyone hasn't noticed, along with the flood of Syrian, Afghan and Iraqi refugees coming into Europe, Albanians from KiM have seen this as an opportunity to tag along. I mean, they all look the same so what's stopping them?

I also hear that learning Arabic has become popular in "Kosova"*. This may come in use when they migrate back to the Middle East. LOL!

adrian kola

pre 8 godina

"Although Kosovo officials are trying portray this event as a step towards the accession of Kosovo to the EU, the organization's officials pointed out that this is not the case." Haha laughable... clearly the fact that Kosovo (with or without an asterix) has signed the SAA is yet another bitter pill that B92 will have to swallow! It hurts doesn't it? Well this is what we had to put with since 1912 when you occupied my country!

adrian kola

pre 8 godina

"Although Kosovo officials are trying portray this event as a step towards the accession of Kosovo to the EU, the organization's officials pointed out that this is not the case." Haha laughable... clearly the fact that Kosovo (with or without an asterix) has signed the SAA is yet another bitter pill that B92 will have to swallow! It hurts doesn't it? Well this is what we had to put with since 1912 when you occupied my country!

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

whoever wrote this article seems to have been stung at the heart by this latest development. quoting an anonymous source means absolutely nothing. and what on earth is this wording :"Ethnic Albanians in this southern Serbian province..."...this Serbian province? dear oh dear. advise to journalist, don't drink rakia before writing, its not good for you

Zoran

pre 8 godina

This is quite funny. The EU offers Turkey accelerated membership if it helps deal with the refugee issue currently flooding the EU and now, "Kosova"***, signs the SAA accelerated, presumably to keep migrants out of the EU.

In case anyone hasn't noticed, along with the flood of Syrian, Afghan and Iraqi refugees coming into Europe, Albanians from KiM have seen this as an opportunity to tag along. I mean, they all look the same so what's stopping them?

I also hear that learning Arabic has become popular in "Kosova"*. This may come in use when they migrate back to the Middle East. LOL!

Avni

pre 8 godina

Now I know why Serbian PM is in Russia. Didn't want to deal with Serbs about this defeat. By the way to me it's interesting how Serbs when signing SSP with EU didn't say without Kosovo we won't do it. They forgot about Kosovo when they did it :)

Adrian Gashi

pre 8 godina

"Although Kosovo officials are trying portray this event as a step towards the accession of Kosovo to the EU, the organization's officials pointed out that this is not the case."

B92, you're scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

Here's how Serbia's European Integration Office describes it's own SAA:
"The Stabilization and Association Agreement (SAA) is an international treaty, whose signing will grant Serbia the status of associated state to the EU. "

And here's what Wikipedia says: "The accession of Serbia to the European Union is the process of the Republic of Serbia being admitted into the framework of the European Union as a member state.
On 7 November 2007, Serbia initialed a Stabilization and Association Agreement (SAA) with the European Union. This was a milestone in Serbia's accession negotiations ..."

Navi

pre 8 godina

Since when does the EU grant SAA to territories? Looks like Kosovo will never be a state now since the EU recognized it as something other than a state.

InKindPayment

pre 8 godina

I've lost count how many times Serbia was ordered to lower her pants before signing the SAA. Didn't it take you guys like 3 or 5 years, and had to give up Mladic and Karadjic e company before you could sign the SAA. I'm pretty sure it must have meant something to you, to have gone through all that trouble to get it.
But don't let me stop the Serbian circus, that gets especially colorful when you have a big blow in your face.

BTW, I thought Serbian is derived from Arabic, isn't after all your script a variant of the the Arabic alphabet?

Zoran

pre 8 godina

thats it Zoran, if reality is too hard to deal, dabbling in fantasy will get us through the day
(Nikolle, 27 October 2015 16:31)
--
Haha, you got me there. You're right, I made the comment about learning Arabic up. Arabic or Albanian all sound the same to Europeans so claiming to be Syrians will still work.

Sumadinac

pre 8 godina

This is great! A little carrot to albanians which will make it harder for their extremists to motivate why they oppose the Brussels agreement. Now time to get it fully implemented including the ZSO. I'm sure Albin Kurti and friends are grinding their teeth. Where do we send the wire Thaci?

EU Dude

pre 8 godina

So, nothing learned since Bulgaria and Romania despite all comments to the contrary.

The only thing my neighbors across the road here in Brussels are encouraging is the continued organized crime syndicate that runs the albanian controlled bit of Kosovo and hoping it gets better by magic.

Only a month ago there was an albanian organized crime assassination in the center, the driver killed and the woman injured:

http://www.rtl.be/info/regions/bruxelles/fusillade-dans-le-centre-de-bruxelles-un-mort-et-un-blesse-grave-photos--757516.aspx

..On ignore les circonstances exactes des tirs ainsi que l'identité des victimes. Mais d'après les premiers éléments de l'enquête, il s'agirait d'un règlement de comptes entre bandes criminelles albanaises...

Brian

pre 8 godina

How is this a defeat for Serbia when in Brussels it agreed official Serbia policy would be "not to block or encourage others to block Kosovo eu path" and according to b92 and ipsos 63% of Serbia says kosovo is independent.

icj1

pre 8 godina

B92, I hope you provided some anger management medication to your news "reporter" who wrote this story... Given the way this story is written, he/she appears to have had a bad day :)

Joni

pre 8 godina

Guys just to let you know something everyone in this planet is trying to go forward and you as a nation still behind you have to stop one day All Europian countris they know how killers you are in less then 10 years you are the only coutery make a war not only with Kosovians but with Croates Bosnain sllobanian with everyone.Do you thing that Europian will trust you no not at all.We know that you came from Siberia years ago but now you took place in balkan so you have to be integrated.Guys enjoy your life because we have just one and leave behind the stories bc no one like to have a dangerous animal in the house even Russia left you behind in Bobbing time 1999..

pss

pre 8 godina

And what does this mean? Absolutely nothing. Will it allow the little Albos to walk freely throughout the EU? Not on your life. In fact many will be returned to that Albo paradise called Kosova.

Its fun to watch the Albos open wide their eyes as if pearls fall from heaven thinking that the SAA really means something. Its all too little too late. The EU is running short of cash and all you guys will get is the back hand of Brussels if you don't behave.
(sj, 28 October 2015 05:32)
What it means is that despite the lonely 5, the EU as an entity accepts Kosovo totally separate from Serbia. And puts forth the message that Serbia will never enter claiming Kosovo as its own.
Good to see you back, others fail miserably with your ability to post bull crap!

pss

pre 8 godina

sj,
I have listened to how desolate life is here in the US from you for 6+ years. I will just let you live your dream because not much you can say about the US that is going to change what I know.
As far as the Albanian parliament, if you had a clue you would know that the "opposition" is the party of Albin Kurti, who has been protesting from day one since the passing of resolution 1244 was passed. He does not want any Serbs in Kosovo, He does not want any international forces in Kosovo, He does not want any international oversight of an Albanian Kosovo. He protested UNMIK, he protested EULEX and he has been against the Brussels talk from the start. So trying to say this present show is because they suddenly discovered some betrayal in the Brussels agreement shows you are on here spewing typical Serbian propaganda nothing more.
Russia in Syria, is nothing but a show. There is no declare war of such and their actions are limited and kept to a nonconfrontational level with western and middle east forces.
Its a shame though I think you had the potential to be a well versed man at some point, before you allowed your Serbian prejudices to completely overtake your thinking.

ItalianoAmericano

pre 8 godina

"I've lost count how many times Serbia was ordered to lower her pants before signing the SAA. Didn't it take you guys like 3 or 5 years, and had to give up Mladic and Karadjic e company before you could sign the SAA. I'm pretty sure it must have meant something to you, to have gone through all that trouble to get it.
But don't let me stop the Serbian circus, that gets especially colorful when you have a big blow in your face. "

^^Exactly. Ole Boris did whatever was asked of him.

" By the way to me it's interesting how Serbs when signing SSP with EU didn't say without Kosovo we won't do it. They forgot about Kosovo when they did it :)"

Haha! A very good point!! I suspect the EU told them beforehand to not even try that weak sauce.

Tony (a Brit in Berlin)

pre 8 godina

A so-called "independent" Kosovo is the last thing the EU wants or needs. We already have enough Albanians posing as Syrian refugees in the EU and I am more than happy that these Albanians will NOT be given refugee status and will be sent back to their hovels in the Balkans. They do not deserve anything from the EU apart from condemnation.

sj

pre 8 godina

And what does this mean? Absolutely nothing. Will it allow the little Albos to walk freely throughout the EU? Not on your life. In fact many will be returned to that Albo paradise called Kosova.

Its fun to watch the Albos open wide their eyes as if pearls fall from heaven thinking that the SAA really means something. Its all too little too late. The EU is running short of cash and all you guys will get is the back hand of Brussels if you don't behave.

sj

pre 8 godina

Could someone explain why Albanians in EU present themselves to neigburs as Yugoslavians?
(viva, 28 October 2015 10:57)

Very simple question answer. I’ve spent time in Europe and the term Albanian does not carry a nice connotation since their reputation as drug runners and criminals is well known in Europe so to hide that fact they call themselves Yugoslavians.

Reader

pre 8 godina

This is a far more important step than joining Unesco for Kosovo but the noise surrounding Unesco was much louder in Serbia. Go figure!

About the carrot and the stick comment, Kosovo got the carrot, but Serbia got the stick, no opening of chapter 35 yet, despite all the grand declarations from Serbian politicians. It shows who is being rewarded and who is behaving in accordance with EU principles and who is not.

sj

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 28 October 2015 03:03)

Careful B92 our resident AI has caught you out. It sees and hears things that the average person does not. It keeps are sharp eye out on inconsistencies and talks to the dead.

PS AI = Albanian Idiot

sj

pre 8 godina

(pss, 28 October 2015 10:14)

I very strongly suggest that you travel to Europe and see how well they are going in the EU. I spent 6 months there.
The EU, together the US, are in great fear of Russia and I mean they are petrified. Just look at what Moscow has done; they have gone into Syria destroyed large elements of the opposition to Assad and the west sits in a corner silent.
Lad, If the EU accepts Kosovo totally then why do they need Serbia? Why the talks with Pristina? Meanwhile your Albanians are throwing tear gas in parliament over the Brussels agreement signed with the Serbs. Do they smell a sell out?
Here is more crap for you, Obama is close to having agreement on extending the level of US debt so they can take up another trillion for next year. Meanwhile 100 Americans live below the poverty line and survive off food stamps.
The music has stopped and only the loons don’t understand that fact.

Paul

pre 8 godina

The EU doesn't really want Serbia in the EU, but only because they fear Serbian influence. But the EU doesn't really want Kosovo as an independent state in the EU because Kosovo as an independent state is a mess and would do more damage that Greece ever did.

Who would be worse, do you think? Turkey in the EU or Kosovo? Imagine what the illegal immigration problem would be like if Turkey were in the EU? Turkey is where all the "migrants" are coming from. Well they wouldn't be illegal any more would they?

Navi

pre 8 godina

They forgot about Kosovo when they did it :)
(Avni, 27 October 2015 21:32)

It's because they want to get into the EU sometime this century. Besides, it's not like the EU hasn't given them everything they need in Kosovo. Serb areas will benefit as soon as Serbia joins. The Albanian parts will be empty by the time the rest of Kosovo joins because everyone will have left for Germany right after visa-free travel agreements were made.

rote

pre 8 godina

“even Russia left you behind in Bobbing time 1999..”

(Joni,)


Joni you don’t have to add salt to the injured place as Russians just wait for the moment to pay out this disgraceful debt. You won’t believe but at least once a month someone recalls it over the TV. And they don’t seek for soft words calling spade a spade. Treason-betrayal-предательство is the most used word though we were an occupied state ourselves. Just be patient and you will see that Russians are a responsible people.

icj1

pre 8 godina

The standard of living has fallen in the US and this is no big secret.

Yes there are pockets in the US where jobs are plentiful, but overall it’s the reverse and if you have 100 million out of 320 million living in poverty then you are in a worse position than during the Great Depression.
(sj, 28 October 2015 23:29)

Of course. That CE of B92 forums sj has ruled about that long ago. Unfortunately people are so stupid to rely on their personal experience and not on what the CE of B92 forums sj says. But, I'm sure that once they read the eye-opening teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj, those 100 million Americans will ask China for immigration visas.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Joni

pre 8 godina

(rote, 28 October 2015 20:42)
That comment was not written by "me" - i mean is another Joni. ( i feel i little like that Bob in fact ).
Your comment begin with an irresponsibility since the beginning : “to pay out this disgraceful debt”. Which debt??
If you are responsible – just be fair! But you are not!
You claim Crimea for the same reason that Albanians claim Kosovo – but you don't recognize Kosovo!
In ex. Yugoslavia cadastral registers 90 % of the Kosovo land belonged to Albanians. Now 98 %!
Albanians in Kosovo were for 500 years under Turks, for 100 years under Serbs and still are the majority in Kosovo! That’s all!
Yes, Albanian heritage in Kosovo is destroyed. As we know nothing Catholic survived – just Orthodox one and Muslim!
Serbs brought Orthodoxism in Kosovo as much as Turks brought Islam! But who lived in, were always Albanians and those monasteries were always guarded from Albanians not Serbs. ( according to those old churches documents, no? ).

icj1

pre 8 godina

The EU, together the US, are in great fear of Russia and I mean they are petrified.
(sj, 28 October 2015 11:36)

Yup, I totally agree as always with the CE of B92 forums sj... When I visited EU and US, everybody I met with was telling me about his/her fear of Russia. There was nothing else anybody was concerned about, other than fear of Russia. There was panic everywhere and everybody was petrified of being at Russia's mercy.

It's so great that the CE of B92 forums sj in person is validating my experience and now the most patriotic of Serbs can finally celebrate that the EU and US are at Russia's mercy. It's a mistery why Russia hasn't told them yet to return Kosovo, the craddle of Serbdom to Serbia, but I'm sure that is going to happen soon, as soon as the CE of 92 forums sj decides it.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sj

pre 8 godina

(pss, 28 October 2015 14:55)

The standard of living has fallen in the US and this is no big secret. Even the Wall Street Journal has covered this story on a couple of occasions. The US will have as of December 2015 20 trillion in debt and its borrowing another trillion for 2016. So far all the US has done is pay interest on that debt. Not one cent has been paid of the principle loan.
Its the frog in the pot scenario. The frog does not notice that the water is getting hot until its too late and the same with the people in the US. Some are well aware, but their voices are not heard on the free media. Yes there are pockets in the US where jobs are plentiful, but overall it’s the reverse and if you have 100 million out of 320 million living in poverty then you are in a worse position than during the Great Depression.
Its not just the Albanian opposition carrying on, the very fact that you are going to have a Bosnia style scenario defeats the very purpose of a so called independent Kosovo. I have been to Kosovo and I have seen it first hand and I know why most would leave if the doors to the EU are opened.
My dear fellow the Russians are bombing the absolute crap out of the so called Free Syrian Army and all others that oppose Assad and the west just sits there. Now the US wants to invite Iran to these talks…hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zoran

pre 8 godina

This is quite funny. The EU offers Turkey accelerated membership if it helps deal with the refugee issue currently flooding the EU and now, "Kosova"***, signs the SAA accelerated, presumably to keep migrants out of the EU.

In case anyone hasn't noticed, along with the flood of Syrian, Afghan and Iraqi refugees coming into Europe, Albanians from KiM have seen this as an opportunity to tag along. I mean, they all look the same so what's stopping them?

I also hear that learning Arabic has become popular in "Kosova"*. This may come in use when they migrate back to the Middle East. LOL!

Zoran

pre 8 godina

thats it Zoran, if reality is too hard to deal, dabbling in fantasy will get us through the day
(Nikolle, 27 October 2015 16:31)
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Haha, you got me there. You're right, I made the comment about learning Arabic up. Arabic or Albanian all sound the same to Europeans so claiming to be Syrians will still work.

Navi

pre 8 godina

Since when does the EU grant SAA to territories? Looks like Kosovo will never be a state now since the EU recognized it as something other than a state.

Sumadinac

pre 8 godina

This is great! A little carrot to albanians which will make it harder for their extremists to motivate why they oppose the Brussels agreement. Now time to get it fully implemented including the ZSO. I'm sure Albin Kurti and friends are grinding their teeth. Where do we send the wire Thaci?

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

whoever wrote this article seems to have been stung at the heart by this latest development. quoting an anonymous source means absolutely nothing. and what on earth is this wording :"Ethnic Albanians in this southern Serbian province..."...this Serbian province? dear oh dear. advise to journalist, don't drink rakia before writing, its not good for you

adrian kola

pre 8 godina

"Although Kosovo officials are trying portray this event as a step towards the accession of Kosovo to the EU, the organization's officials pointed out that this is not the case." Haha laughable... clearly the fact that Kosovo (with or without an asterix) has signed the SAA is yet another bitter pill that B92 will have to swallow! It hurts doesn't it? Well this is what we had to put with since 1912 when you occupied my country!

Adrian Gashi

pre 8 godina

"Although Kosovo officials are trying portray this event as a step towards the accession of Kosovo to the EU, the organization's officials pointed out that this is not the case."

B92, you're scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

Here's how Serbia's European Integration Office describes it's own SAA:
"The Stabilization and Association Agreement (SAA) is an international treaty, whose signing will grant Serbia the status of associated state to the EU. "

And here's what Wikipedia says: "The accession of Serbia to the European Union is the process of the Republic of Serbia being admitted into the framework of the European Union as a member state.
On 7 November 2007, Serbia initialed a Stabilization and Association Agreement (SAA) with the European Union. This was a milestone in Serbia's accession negotiations ..."

Tony (a Brit in Berlin)

pre 8 godina

A so-called "independent" Kosovo is the last thing the EU wants or needs. We already have enough Albanians posing as Syrian refugees in the EU and I am more than happy that these Albanians will NOT be given refugee status and will be sent back to their hovels in the Balkans. They do not deserve anything from the EU apart from condemnation.

EU Dude

pre 8 godina

So, nothing learned since Bulgaria and Romania despite all comments to the contrary.

The only thing my neighbors across the road here in Brussels are encouraging is the continued organized crime syndicate that runs the albanian controlled bit of Kosovo and hoping it gets better by magic.

Only a month ago there was an albanian organized crime assassination in the center, the driver killed and the woman injured:

http://www.rtl.be/info/regions/bruxelles/fusillade-dans-le-centre-de-bruxelles-un-mort-et-un-blesse-grave-photos--757516.aspx

..On ignore les circonstances exactes des tirs ainsi que l'identité des victimes. Mais d'après les premiers éléments de l'enquête, il s'agirait d'un règlement de comptes entre bandes criminelles albanaises...

Navi

pre 8 godina

They forgot about Kosovo when they did it :)
(Avni, 27 October 2015 21:32)

It's because they want to get into the EU sometime this century. Besides, it's not like the EU hasn't given them everything they need in Kosovo. Serb areas will benefit as soon as Serbia joins. The Albanian parts will be empty by the time the rest of Kosovo joins because everyone will have left for Germany right after visa-free travel agreements were made.

InKindPayment

pre 8 godina

I've lost count how many times Serbia was ordered to lower her pants before signing the SAA. Didn't it take you guys like 3 or 5 years, and had to give up Mladic and Karadjic e company before you could sign the SAA. I'm pretty sure it must have meant something to you, to have gone through all that trouble to get it.
But don't let me stop the Serbian circus, that gets especially colorful when you have a big blow in your face.

BTW, I thought Serbian is derived from Arabic, isn't after all your script a variant of the the Arabic alphabet?

sj

pre 8 godina

And what does this mean? Absolutely nothing. Will it allow the little Albos to walk freely throughout the EU? Not on your life. In fact many will be returned to that Albo paradise called Kosova.

Its fun to watch the Albos open wide their eyes as if pearls fall from heaven thinking that the SAA really means something. Its all too little too late. The EU is running short of cash and all you guys will get is the back hand of Brussels if you don't behave.

sj

pre 8 godina

Could someone explain why Albanians in EU present themselves to neigburs as Yugoslavians?
(viva, 28 October 2015 10:57)

Very simple question answer. I’ve spent time in Europe and the term Albanian does not carry a nice connotation since their reputation as drug runners and criminals is well known in Europe so to hide that fact they call themselves Yugoslavians.

Avni

pre 8 godina

Now I know why Serbian PM is in Russia. Didn't want to deal with Serbs about this defeat. By the way to me it's interesting how Serbs when signing SSP with EU didn't say without Kosovo we won't do it. They forgot about Kosovo when they did it :)

sj

pre 8 godina

(icj1, 28 October 2015 03:03)

Careful B92 our resident AI has caught you out. It sees and hears things that the average person does not. It keeps are sharp eye out on inconsistencies and talks to the dead.

PS AI = Albanian Idiot

sj

pre 8 godina

(pss, 28 October 2015 10:14)

I very strongly suggest that you travel to Europe and see how well they are going in the EU. I spent 6 months there.
The EU, together the US, are in great fear of Russia and I mean they are petrified. Just look at what Moscow has done; they have gone into Syria destroyed large elements of the opposition to Assad and the west sits in a corner silent.
Lad, If the EU accepts Kosovo totally then why do they need Serbia? Why the talks with Pristina? Meanwhile your Albanians are throwing tear gas in parliament over the Brussels agreement signed with the Serbs. Do they smell a sell out?
Here is more crap for you, Obama is close to having agreement on extending the level of US debt so they can take up another trillion for next year. Meanwhile 100 Americans live below the poverty line and survive off food stamps.
The music has stopped and only the loons don’t understand that fact.

Joni

pre 8 godina

Guys just to let you know something everyone in this planet is trying to go forward and you as a nation still behind you have to stop one day All Europian countris they know how killers you are in less then 10 years you are the only coutery make a war not only with Kosovians but with Croates Bosnain sllobanian with everyone.Do you thing that Europian will trust you no not at all.We know that you came from Siberia years ago but now you took place in balkan so you have to be integrated.Guys enjoy your life because we have just one and leave behind the stories bc no one like to have a dangerous animal in the house even Russia left you behind in Bobbing time 1999..

pss

pre 8 godina

And what does this mean? Absolutely nothing. Will it allow the little Albos to walk freely throughout the EU? Not on your life. In fact many will be returned to that Albo paradise called Kosova.

Its fun to watch the Albos open wide their eyes as if pearls fall from heaven thinking that the SAA really means something. Its all too little too late. The EU is running short of cash and all you guys will get is the back hand of Brussels if you don't behave.
(sj, 28 October 2015 05:32)
What it means is that despite the lonely 5, the EU as an entity accepts Kosovo totally separate from Serbia. And puts forth the message that Serbia will never enter claiming Kosovo as its own.
Good to see you back, others fail miserably with your ability to post bull crap!

rote

pre 8 godina

“even Russia left you behind in Bobbing time 1999..”

(Joni,)


Joni you don’t have to add salt to the injured place as Russians just wait for the moment to pay out this disgraceful debt. You won’t believe but at least once a month someone recalls it over the TV. And they don’t seek for soft words calling spade a spade. Treason-betrayal-предательство is the most used word though we were an occupied state ourselves. Just be patient and you will see that Russians are a responsible people.

icj1

pre 8 godina

B92, I hope you provided some anger management medication to your news "reporter" who wrote this story... Given the way this story is written, he/she appears to have had a bad day :)

sj

pre 8 godina

(pss, 28 October 2015 14:55)

The standard of living has fallen in the US and this is no big secret. Even the Wall Street Journal has covered this story on a couple of occasions. The US will have as of December 2015 20 trillion in debt and its borrowing another trillion for 2016. So far all the US has done is pay interest on that debt. Not one cent has been paid of the principle loan.
Its the frog in the pot scenario. The frog does not notice that the water is getting hot until its too late and the same with the people in the US. Some are well aware, but their voices are not heard on the free media. Yes there are pockets in the US where jobs are plentiful, but overall it’s the reverse and if you have 100 million out of 320 million living in poverty then you are in a worse position than during the Great Depression.
Its not just the Albanian opposition carrying on, the very fact that you are going to have a Bosnia style scenario defeats the very purpose of a so called independent Kosovo. I have been to Kosovo and I have seen it first hand and I know why most would leave if the doors to the EU are opened.
My dear fellow the Russians are bombing the absolute crap out of the so called Free Syrian Army and all others that oppose Assad and the west just sits there. Now the US wants to invite Iran to these talks…hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Paul

pre 8 godina

The EU doesn't really want Serbia in the EU, but only because they fear Serbian influence. But the EU doesn't really want Kosovo as an independent state in the EU because Kosovo as an independent state is a mess and would do more damage that Greece ever did.

Who would be worse, do you think? Turkey in the EU or Kosovo? Imagine what the illegal immigration problem would be like if Turkey were in the EU? Turkey is where all the "migrants" are coming from. Well they wouldn't be illegal any more would they?

Reader

pre 8 godina

This is a far more important step than joining Unesco for Kosovo but the noise surrounding Unesco was much louder in Serbia. Go figure!

About the carrot and the stick comment, Kosovo got the carrot, but Serbia got the stick, no opening of chapter 35 yet, despite all the grand declarations from Serbian politicians. It shows who is being rewarded and who is behaving in accordance with EU principles and who is not.

pss

pre 8 godina

sj,
I have listened to how desolate life is here in the US from you for 6+ years. I will just let you live your dream because not much you can say about the US that is going to change what I know.
As far as the Albanian parliament, if you had a clue you would know that the "opposition" is the party of Albin Kurti, who has been protesting from day one since the passing of resolution 1244 was passed. He does not want any Serbs in Kosovo, He does not want any international forces in Kosovo, He does not want any international oversight of an Albanian Kosovo. He protested UNMIK, he protested EULEX and he has been against the Brussels talk from the start. So trying to say this present show is because they suddenly discovered some betrayal in the Brussels agreement shows you are on here spewing typical Serbian propaganda nothing more.
Russia in Syria, is nothing but a show. There is no declare war of such and their actions are limited and kept to a nonconfrontational level with western and middle east forces.
Its a shame though I think you had the potential to be a well versed man at some point, before you allowed your Serbian prejudices to completely overtake your thinking.

ItalianoAmericano

pre 8 godina

"I've lost count how many times Serbia was ordered to lower her pants before signing the SAA. Didn't it take you guys like 3 or 5 years, and had to give up Mladic and Karadjic e company before you could sign the SAA. I'm pretty sure it must have meant something to you, to have gone through all that trouble to get it.
But don't let me stop the Serbian circus, that gets especially colorful when you have a big blow in your face. "

^^Exactly. Ole Boris did whatever was asked of him.

" By the way to me it's interesting how Serbs when signing SSP with EU didn't say without Kosovo we won't do it. They forgot about Kosovo when they did it :)"

Haha! A very good point!! I suspect the EU told them beforehand to not even try that weak sauce.

Brian

pre 8 godina

How is this a defeat for Serbia when in Brussels it agreed official Serbia policy would be "not to block or encourage others to block Kosovo eu path" and according to b92 and ipsos 63% of Serbia says kosovo is independent.

icj1

pre 8 godina

The EU, together the US, are in great fear of Russia and I mean they are petrified.
(sj, 28 October 2015 11:36)

Yup, I totally agree as always with the CE of B92 forums sj... When I visited EU and US, everybody I met with was telling me about his/her fear of Russia. There was nothing else anybody was concerned about, other than fear of Russia. There was panic everywhere and everybody was petrified of being at Russia's mercy.

It's so great that the CE of B92 forums sj in person is validating my experience and now the most patriotic of Serbs can finally celebrate that the EU and US are at Russia's mercy. It's a mistery why Russia hasn't told them yet to return Kosovo, the craddle of Serbdom to Serbia, but I'm sure that is going to happen soon, as soon as the CE of 92 forums sj decides it.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Joni

pre 8 godina

(rote, 28 October 2015 20:42)
That comment was not written by "me" - i mean is another Joni. ( i feel i little like that Bob in fact ).
Your comment begin with an irresponsibility since the beginning : “to pay out this disgraceful debt”. Which debt??
If you are responsible – just be fair! But you are not!
You claim Crimea for the same reason that Albanians claim Kosovo – but you don't recognize Kosovo!
In ex. Yugoslavia cadastral registers 90 % of the Kosovo land belonged to Albanians. Now 98 %!
Albanians in Kosovo were for 500 years under Turks, for 100 years under Serbs and still are the majority in Kosovo! That’s all!
Yes, Albanian heritage in Kosovo is destroyed. As we know nothing Catholic survived – just Orthodox one and Muslim!
Serbs brought Orthodoxism in Kosovo as much as Turks brought Islam! But who lived in, were always Albanians and those monasteries were always guarded from Albanians not Serbs. ( according to those old churches documents, no? ).

icj1

pre 8 godina

The standard of living has fallen in the US and this is no big secret.

Yes there are pockets in the US where jobs are plentiful, but overall it’s the reverse and if you have 100 million out of 320 million living in poverty then you are in a worse position than during the Great Depression.
(sj, 28 October 2015 23:29)

Of course. That CE of B92 forums sj has ruled about that long ago. Unfortunately people are so stupid to rely on their personal experience and not on what the CE of B92 forums sj says. But, I'm sure that once they read the eye-opening teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj, those 100 million Americans will ask China for immigration visas.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist