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Friday, 02.10.2015.

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Lavrov: Unipolar world order is gone, transition will hurt

The unipolar world order has ceased to exist, Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said in an interview on Thursday, Sputnik has reported.

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icj1

pre 8 godina

Ahhh, the IA has certainly not improved during my six month tour of Europe.
(sj, 13 October 2015 07:18)

Well, yes, these forums lacked the brilliant analysis of the CE of B92 forums sj for a few months while he/she was trying to make the reality match his/her teachings...
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Babbling as usual incoherently which it only knows how to.
(sj, 13 October 2015 07:18)

Well, I guess if quoting the CE of B92 forums sj is considered babbling, that says it all haha
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Have a good look at Syria and see what the Russian s are doing there and your mighty Yankess are silent. They can’t even lift a finger LOL.
(sj, 13 October 2015 07:18)

"Mighty" Yankess... Oh dear!!! According to the CE of B92 forums sj the Yankess are all p... and wind. Where is that "mighty" coming from mate? You don't trust the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj?!
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I strongly suggest that you get over this GDP or PPP business as these are only figures on paper.
(sj, 13 October 2015 07:18)

Oh, I see... So when the CE of B92 forums sj said that China is the number 1 economy in the world he/she meant that was only on paper!
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You need to get out and travel and stop using the CIA Worldbook. China alone has now over 370 million middle class alone mate.
(sj, 13 October 2015 07:18)

Hmmm, just 370 million?!!!! How about the remaining 1 billion?!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sj

pre 8 godina

icj1

Ahhh, the IA has certainly not improved during my six month tour of Europe. Babbling as usual incoherently which it only knows how to.

Have a good look at Syria and see what the Russian s are doing there and your mighty Yankess are silent. They can’t even lift a finger LOL.

Perhaps you might talk to a few Americans and ask them how its going the US. I strongly suggest that you get over this GDP or PPP business as these are only figures on paper. For your information Montenegro has a so called higher GDP than Serbia and I have been to both and it’s a hoot to even suggest that the Montenegrin economy is strong, but you are obviously looking at an Albanian economics text book where it states that money grows on trees LOL.

You need to get out and travel and stop using the CIA Worldbook. China alone has now over 370 million middle class alone mate.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Your watching too much CNN, try switching the station. What is even more entertaining or sad is the fact the US just signed a deal with IRAN to lift sanctions who will now support Russian with ground troops in Syria.
(Jugolsavija, 6 October 2015 19:12)

Sad for whom? For you? I can totally see that and I understand...

Fortunatelly for the US, the US does not operate like the Serbs or Russians who's mentality is to do the opposite what the US says or does. That means giving the control of the decisions to somebody else :)

The US might disagree with Iran in some areas, but that does not mean that it can't agree with Iran on others, just because Iran takes Russia's side in regards to Syria.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Another fact is China is the number 1 economy in the world, maybe by 4031 the US will admit it, LOL.
(sj, 7 October 2015 21:43)

Yeah, it's indeed laughable that the Yankees refuse to admit that and pay attention to the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj.

For some reason a Yankee is so stupid to care more for the wellbeing of him/herself and his/her family (i.e. the GDP per person at PPP of a Yankee is 4x than the one of a Chinese - it's so unfortunate that China's pie has to be divided among many more people than the US' pie).

But I totally agree with you (as usual) that a person should rather put first the honor and the great privilege of living in the largest economy in the world, not materialistic things like his/her individual wellbeing.

A Chinese is 4x poorer than a Yankee, but a Chinese has the honor of living in the largest economy in the world and the spiritual pleasure that honor brings is capable of making anybody forget poverty and hunger and feel rich. The entire world envies the Chinese so much for living in the largest economy in the world. What a wonderful (albeit poor) place is that to be.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

sj

pre 8 godina

(just a note., 7 October 2015 00:21)

The vast majority of refugees want to move to social security heaven, where they will never work and live off the taxpayer for the rest of their lives. Russia and China do not have those systems in place and therefore its not attractive to move there, but they do have in place systems for their people.

Germany is strainingt. Another fact is China is the number 1 economy in the world, maybe by 4031 the US will admit it, LOL. There are over 2 million foreigners living and working in China alone mate. On the issue of Russia I suggest you read my comment again and no the so called sanctions are not hurting Moscow at all unless its economy has been affected badly by not importing Polish grown apples and pears.

The western sanctions are a joke and only people like yourself believe in them.

joseph

pre 8 godina

The Crimean SSR was attached to Ucraine SSR in the 50s by Krruschov when a canal was being built from Ucraine to Crrimea to supply water. It was never part of the Ucrraine SSR prior to that. Sergei Kruschov, Nikolai's son, a US citizen says Mr Yeltsin should have corrected this at the time of the breakup.
The US by overthrowing Yanukovich's democratically elected Governmnt, caused a coup, putting in power a NAZI government. and don't forget the ex- ucraine SSR has nuclear power.
'judgment from God on the wicked'.
Who is God ? and who are the wicked. If you talk to Cain or Abel, you'll get Two opposite stories. Be advised, however, that God is YHWH of the bible, which is without error(KJV)and Elijah ( which means YAH is God).

just a note.

pre 8 godina

(sj, 5 October 2015 19:57)
It's always amusing when we read on here what a powerhouse Russia is, what an economic Utopia it is and how they are going to become the new masters of the world.
The day you start see migration to Russia and not away from it will be the day you achieve credibility. In migration, I am speaking of working families that believe what is peddled here, not economic or war refugees, they are going places for the next meal and a roof over their head.
But you do not see that migration to Russia and China, you do not see masses of people who are success stories willing to go and place their holdings in the hands of those banks (under govt control).
And every Serb not living in Serbia who preaches the Russian dream, lives in the west.
It's like when someone wants to tell you of an incredible deal that you cannot miss out on, but yet they have not themselves taken advantage of, leaves a lot of questions in your mind.
But they are harmless, nothing more than sleazy used car salesmen, they can only hurt you if you fall for the pitch.

Jugolsavija

pre 8 godina

ow amusing! Putin is only delaying the downfall of Assad and consequently prolonging the suffering of millions refugees attempting to escape both Assad's and ISIS's brutality. In the end, Putin and Russia will worse off than had he done nothing to assist Assad.
(The Count of Kosova, 4 October 2015 22:55)

Your watching too much CNN, try switching the station. What is even more entertaining or sad is the fact the US just signed a deal with IRAN to lift sanctions who will now support Russian with ground troops in Syria.

Kreshnik

pre 8 godina

If the end of the New World Order means characters like Milosevic get to live to fight another day, I want none of it. Russia's world works only if states are homogenous.

sj

pre 8 godina

The Count of Kosova, 4 October 2015 22:55)
I strongly recommend that you get out of your computer room and go to Russia and see the so called affects of the sanctions on Russia. I have recently been there and I can tell you that it has no affect on Moscow at all. The real problem with people like you is that you rely too much on western media which tells you every day of the enormous strength of the west, in particular the US. Those days are over and even the Germans privately admit that Moscow has become more important to Berlin than Washington.
Putin will bomb the crap out of the so called freedom fighters and the west will do nothing at all about it.

Lenard

pre 8 godina

The above statements by Lavrov say it all, sanctions are weakening Russia and their criminal dictator. Otherwise, Putin and his proxy Lavrov would not be screaming like stuck pigs. Russia getting involved in Syria to supposedly to fight ISIS only reveals how desperate Putin has become because of Western sanctions. He has yet to attack ISIS, concentrating his aggression only on moderate rebel groups in Syria fighting Assad. Putin actually thinks he can convince the West, with Russia being involved militarily in the Middle East, he is no longer part of the problem and that Western sanctions should be lifted against Russia. How amusing! Putin is only delaying the downfall of Assad and consequently prolonging the suffering of millions refugees attempting to escape both Assad's and ISIS's brutality. In the end, Putin and Russia will worse off than had he done nothing to assist Assad.
(The Count of Kosova, 4 October 2015 22:55) So rite worst part the bozo Putin with a mad Napoleonic complex will get even more desperate. That he will call for a alliance of other criminal despots dictators bozos to attack Israel. The outcome will be so morbid a judgement from God on the wicked.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

Meanwhile,
...Trans-Pacific free trade deal agreed creating vast partnership.The US, Japan and 10 other Pacific rim countries have signed a controversial and sweeping trade agreement that covers about 40% of the world economy.

Good luck BRIC of toilet!
I wish Serbia doesn't follow the BRIC of toilet but joins EU whose weight in world economy is 30%.

rote

pre 8 godina

The C*unt of Kosovo

When you start to menstruate about Russia or Serbia I always think that it’s an open doors day in your madhouse. Just read once what BS you place here ! You sometimes can be rather reasonable but most often you menstruate like this. What sanctions are you talking about ? The only thing that really harms us is the low crude oil price. Everything else is only good for us as it forces us to develop our own industries. Do you know the volume of contracts of Rosatom today ? They are USD 367 Bln already and we annually export 30-35 million tons of wheat and we almost reached the US arms sales level. Ect. ect. So Pussy stop your hysteria and accept the new reality - Russia is back on the stage ! We all know that it’s a bad news for the Shqiptars but if you change your attitude and stop blackmailing Serbia you can gain very much. Just accept the new reality and that’s all.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Good to have Russia on board. I loved Sergei Lavrov's reply to an English-speaking reporter. Lavrov said in fluent English, after the guy mentioned that Russia was bombing anti-Assad forces, i.e. 'Do you know something I don't.' Bravo Lavrov!
(Beth, 4 October 2015 15:18)

yup, the above shows that Lavrov achieved his goal of selling trash to the mindless Russian populace or people similar to the Russian populace (i.e. like you) who buy everything that the Kremlin sells without trying to use a single neuron to think about it :)

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

Lavrov warned against the principle of the so-called “legal extraterritoriality” when unilateral sanctions are imposed in circumvention of the UN Security Council and are aimed at undermining a country’s economic and social stability.

“Economic ties, trade, technological exchanges all this holds the key to development while one-sided sanctions thwart the countries’ pursuit of a better life,” Lavrov said.


The above statements by Lavrov say it all, sanctions are weakening Russia and their criminal dictator. Otherwise, Putin and his proxy Lavrov would not be screaming like stuck pigs. Russia getting involved in Syria to supposedly to fight ISIS only reveals how desperate Putin has become because of Western sanctions. He has yet to attack ISIS, concentrating his aggression only on moderate rebel groups in Syria fighting Assad. Putin actually thinks he can convince the West, with Russia being involved militarily in the Middle East, he is no longer part of the problem and that Western sanctions should be lifted against Russia. How amusing! Putin is only delaying the downfall of Assad and consequently prolonging the suffering of millions refugees attempting to escape both Assad's and ISIS's brutality. In the end, Putin and Russia will worse off than had he done nothing to assist Assad.

Beth

pre 8 godina

Good to have Russia on board. I loved Sergei Lavrov's reply to an English-speaking reporter. Lavrov said in fluent English, after the guy mentioned that Russia was bombing anti-Assad forces, i.e. 'Do you know something I don't.' Bravo Lavrov!

Winston

pre 8 godina

Russia walked in and literally stole another sovereign country's territory, and this hypocrite talks about respecting the UN charter and unilateral actions. I have always been amazed at Russian "lie in you face" diplomacy. Nothing has changed much with there genetically modified communists. In order to be respected, Larov, your nation's actions must match you words.

factman

pre 8 godina

Bilbao,

Serbia is neither East nor West but both East and West because it says it (and behaves aa such)


You need to read Serb history a bit. It takes orders from no one. If it did, all of this that is debated every day on this site would have been done a long time ago.

Roger7

pre 8 godina

Russia is just another example of what's wrong with the human race, like slavery, the mistreatment of animals, global warming, greed...
(Nenad, 2 October 2015 21:36)

LOL! You could say the very same thing about the USA and China.

Too, funny, using Nenad as one of your aliases.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Russia "wants to enshrine the principle of non-interference in the internal affairs of sovereign states in an international declaration - 'a fundamental principle of the UN Charter which, unfortunately, is often violated'

Hmm... yeah violated by Russia in Ukraine, for example :) no wonder this guy has become laughing stock

In addition, stuff like "internal affairs" that cause hundreds of thousand of refugees fleeing to neighboring countries (like Serbia's "internal affair" of Kosovo in Spring 1999) can't be internal affairs.

Navi

pre 8 godina

I would like to ask Lavrov "how come Russia isn't helping Ukraine government fight terrorists too"?
(Avni, 3 October 2015 00:10)

They are, they're called the Azov Battalion.

Nenad

pre 8 godina

Every thing you say is anti Serb, anti Orthodox, anti Russian and always pro albanian, pro muslim, pro nato, pro croatian. Stop pretending to be a Serb when everyone knows you are not.
(???, 2 October 2015 22:42)

Drives you crazy, doesn’t it? But don’t you mean “mindless Serb”? The irony in your comment is that you paint Serbs out to be NOTHING BUT pro-Russian, which reveals a severe shortage of critical thought in Serbian society (that is to say, your version of it).

Apart from that, you grossly mischaracterize me. I am most certainly not anti-Serb, anti-Orthodox or anti-Russian – I’m merely anti-dictator and anti-thug. Unfortunately, we’ve seen many of this sort coming out of Serbia and Russia over the years. I view Albanians, Muslims and Croats the same way: no problem with most of them, just don’t like their criminal leaders. For instance, I have often remarked that Tudjman was every bit as bad as Milosevic. And I agree that there were Serbs victimized by Muslims and Albanians. And I don’t place Serbs below any other ethnic group. People are people: most are good, a few are bad – especially when they have too much power. Like Putin.

Pozdrav, my mysteriously-named friend. On this night, your screen name should be #?%$, given your obvious hostility toward me.

Bilbao

pre 8 godina

It doesn't take orders from anyone.

Maybe you can go join those countries.
(factman, 3 October 2015 00:18)

hihih you must not live in Serbia to know that it does take orders, from many in the West.

So how is Bulgaria West and Serbia is East? If your geography was say near Ukraine u can say that neither West nor East but in todays world you are in West sphere of influence like it or not.

factman

pre 8 godina

Muzaka,

Serbia is neither Eas nor West.

It is both.

Always was.

It doesn't take orders from anyone.

Maybe you can go join those countries.

Navi

pre 8 godina

Just listen to Lavrov lecturing about interfering in another country's internal affairs, as if Russia hadn't openly invaded and annexed Crimea only just last year.
(Nenad, 2 October 2015 21:36)

He almost sounds like an American.

???

pre 8 godina

What an evil, spiteful leadership that Russia has. Putin is the closest thing there is to an anti-Christ.

Just listen to Lavrov lecturing about interfering in another country's internal affairs, as if Russia hadn't openly invaded and annexed Crimea only just last year.

And now we see that Russian planes are bombing the FSA, who've been desperately trying to defeat a Putin-like dictator for 4 years now.

Thanks to their size and nuclear arsenal, they are able to get away with being the world's bad guys.

Russia is just another example of what's wrong with the human race, like slavery, the mistreatment of animals, global warming, greed...
(Nenad, 2 October 2015 21:36) # Comment link
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Are you sure your name is not Nedzad? Every thing you say is anti Serb, anti Orthodox, anti Russian and always pro albanian, pro muslim, pro nato, pro croatian. Stop pretending to be a Serb when everyone knows you are not.

Paul

pre 8 godina

Economic growth and "powerhouses" in Latin America? Where?

It's a little weird. Lavrov hasn't changed a thing about himself since the Soviet Union.

Nenad

pre 8 godina

What an evil, spiteful leadership that Russia has. Putin is the closest thing there is to an anti-Christ.

Just listen to Lavrov lecturing about interfering in another country's internal affairs, as if Russia hadn't openly invaded and annexed Crimea only just last year.

And now we see that Russian planes are bombing the FSA, who've been desperately trying to defeat a Putin-like dictator for 4 years now.

Thanks to their size and nuclear arsenal, they are able to get away with being the world's bad guys.

Russia is just another example of what's wrong with the human race, like slavery, the mistreatment of animals, global warming, greed...

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

Good,
Take Venezuela,Iran,Syria,Zimbave and Serbia and live us alone.
What will hurt Russia the most, is the second defeat in second Cold War.

factman

pre 8 godina

Muzaka,

Serbia is neither Eas nor West.

It is both.

Always was.

It doesn't take orders from anyone.

Maybe you can go join those countries.

Winston

pre 8 godina

Russia walked in and literally stole another sovereign country's territory, and this hypocrite talks about respecting the UN charter and unilateral actions. I have always been amazed at Russian "lie in you face" diplomacy. Nothing has changed much with there genetically modified communists. In order to be respected, Larov, your nation's actions must match you words.

Navi

pre 8 godina

Just listen to Lavrov lecturing about interfering in another country's internal affairs, as if Russia hadn't openly invaded and annexed Crimea only just last year.
(Nenad, 2 October 2015 21:36)

He almost sounds like an American.

Navi

pre 8 godina

I would like to ask Lavrov "how come Russia isn't helping Ukraine government fight terrorists too"?
(Avni, 3 October 2015 00:10)

They are, they're called the Azov Battalion.

Nenad

pre 8 godina

What an evil, spiteful leadership that Russia has. Putin is the closest thing there is to an anti-Christ.

Just listen to Lavrov lecturing about interfering in another country's internal affairs, as if Russia hadn't openly invaded and annexed Crimea only just last year.

And now we see that Russian planes are bombing the FSA, who've been desperately trying to defeat a Putin-like dictator for 4 years now.

Thanks to their size and nuclear arsenal, they are able to get away with being the world's bad guys.

Russia is just another example of what's wrong with the human race, like slavery, the mistreatment of animals, global warming, greed...

???

pre 8 godina

What an evil, spiteful leadership that Russia has. Putin is the closest thing there is to an anti-Christ.

Just listen to Lavrov lecturing about interfering in another country's internal affairs, as if Russia hadn't openly invaded and annexed Crimea only just last year.

And now we see that Russian planes are bombing the FSA, who've been desperately trying to defeat a Putin-like dictator for 4 years now.

Thanks to their size and nuclear arsenal, they are able to get away with being the world's bad guys.

Russia is just another example of what's wrong with the human race, like slavery, the mistreatment of animals, global warming, greed...
(Nenad, 2 October 2015 21:36) # Comment link
Your vote has been recorded ­ thank you for participating.


Are you sure your name is not Nedzad? Every thing you say is anti Serb, anti Orthodox, anti Russian and always pro albanian, pro muslim, pro nato, pro croatian. Stop pretending to be a Serb when everyone knows you are not.

Nenad

pre 8 godina

Every thing you say is anti Serb, anti Orthodox, anti Russian and always pro albanian, pro muslim, pro nato, pro croatian. Stop pretending to be a Serb when everyone knows you are not.
(???, 2 October 2015 22:42)

Drives you crazy, doesn’t it? But don’t you mean “mindless Serb”? The irony in your comment is that you paint Serbs out to be NOTHING BUT pro-Russian, which reveals a severe shortage of critical thought in Serbian society (that is to say, your version of it).

Apart from that, you grossly mischaracterize me. I am most certainly not anti-Serb, anti-Orthodox or anti-Russian – I’m merely anti-dictator and anti-thug. Unfortunately, we’ve seen many of this sort coming out of Serbia and Russia over the years. I view Albanians, Muslims and Croats the same way: no problem with most of them, just don’t like their criminal leaders. For instance, I have often remarked that Tudjman was every bit as bad as Milosevic. And I agree that there were Serbs victimized by Muslims and Albanians. And I don’t place Serbs below any other ethnic group. People are people: most are good, a few are bad – especially when they have too much power. Like Putin.

Pozdrav, my mysteriously-named friend. On this night, your screen name should be #?%$, given your obvious hostility toward me.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

Good,
Take Venezuela,Iran,Syria,Zimbave and Serbia and live us alone.
What will hurt Russia the most, is the second defeat in second Cold War.

Roger7

pre 8 godina

Russia is just another example of what's wrong with the human race, like slavery, the mistreatment of animals, global warming, greed...
(Nenad, 2 October 2015 21:36)

LOL! You could say the very same thing about the USA and China.

Too, funny, using Nenad as one of your aliases.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Russia "wants to enshrine the principle of non-interference in the internal affairs of sovereign states in an international declaration - 'a fundamental principle of the UN Charter which, unfortunately, is often violated'

Hmm... yeah violated by Russia in Ukraine, for example :) no wonder this guy has become laughing stock

In addition, stuff like "internal affairs" that cause hundreds of thousand of refugees fleeing to neighboring countries (like Serbia's "internal affair" of Kosovo in Spring 1999) can't be internal affairs.

Beth

pre 8 godina

Good to have Russia on board. I loved Sergei Lavrov's reply to an English-speaking reporter. Lavrov said in fluent English, after the guy mentioned that Russia was bombing anti-Assad forces, i.e. 'Do you know something I don't.' Bravo Lavrov!

factman

pre 8 godina

Bilbao,

Serbia is neither East nor West but both East and West because it says it (and behaves aa such)


You need to read Serb history a bit. It takes orders from no one. If it did, all of this that is debated every day on this site would have been done a long time ago.

Paul

pre 8 godina

Economic growth and "powerhouses" in Latin America? Where?

It's a little weird. Lavrov hasn't changed a thing about himself since the Soviet Union.

Bilbao

pre 8 godina

It doesn't take orders from anyone.

Maybe you can go join those countries.
(factman, 3 October 2015 00:18)

hihih you must not live in Serbia to know that it does take orders, from many in the West.

So how is Bulgaria West and Serbia is East? If your geography was say near Ukraine u can say that neither West nor East but in todays world you are in West sphere of influence like it or not.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

Lavrov warned against the principle of the so-called “legal extraterritoriality” when unilateral sanctions are imposed in circumvention of the UN Security Council and are aimed at undermining a country’s economic and social stability.

“Economic ties, trade, technological exchanges all this holds the key to development while one-sided sanctions thwart the countries’ pursuit of a better life,” Lavrov said.


The above statements by Lavrov say it all, sanctions are weakening Russia and their criminal dictator. Otherwise, Putin and his proxy Lavrov would not be screaming like stuck pigs. Russia getting involved in Syria to supposedly to fight ISIS only reveals how desperate Putin has become because of Western sanctions. He has yet to attack ISIS, concentrating his aggression only on moderate rebel groups in Syria fighting Assad. Putin actually thinks he can convince the West, with Russia being involved militarily in the Middle East, he is no longer part of the problem and that Western sanctions should be lifted against Russia. How amusing! Putin is only delaying the downfall of Assad and consequently prolonging the suffering of millions refugees attempting to escape both Assad's and ISIS's brutality. In the end, Putin and Russia will worse off than had he done nothing to assist Assad.

sj

pre 8 godina

The Count of Kosova, 4 October 2015 22:55)
I strongly recommend that you get out of your computer room and go to Russia and see the so called affects of the sanctions on Russia. I have recently been there and I can tell you that it has no affect on Moscow at all. The real problem with people like you is that you rely too much on western media which tells you every day of the enormous strength of the west, in particular the US. Those days are over and even the Germans privately admit that Moscow has become more important to Berlin than Washington.
Putin will bomb the crap out of the so called freedom fighters and the west will do nothing at all about it.

rote

pre 8 godina

The C*unt of Kosovo

When you start to menstruate about Russia or Serbia I always think that it’s an open doors day in your madhouse. Just read once what BS you place here ! You sometimes can be rather reasonable but most often you menstruate like this. What sanctions are you talking about ? The only thing that really harms us is the low crude oil price. Everything else is only good for us as it forces us to develop our own industries. Do you know the volume of contracts of Rosatom today ? They are USD 367 Bln already and we annually export 30-35 million tons of wheat and we almost reached the US arms sales level. Ect. ect. So Pussy stop your hysteria and accept the new reality - Russia is back on the stage ! We all know that it’s a bad news for the Shqiptars but if you change your attitude and stop blackmailing Serbia you can gain very much. Just accept the new reality and that’s all.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Good to have Russia on board. I loved Sergei Lavrov's reply to an English-speaking reporter. Lavrov said in fluent English, after the guy mentioned that Russia was bombing anti-Assad forces, i.e. 'Do you know something I don't.' Bravo Lavrov!
(Beth, 4 October 2015 15:18)

yup, the above shows that Lavrov achieved his goal of selling trash to the mindless Russian populace or people similar to the Russian populace (i.e. like you) who buy everything that the Kremlin sells without trying to use a single neuron to think about it :)

Kreshnik

pre 8 godina

If the end of the New World Order means characters like Milosevic get to live to fight another day, I want none of it. Russia's world works only if states are homogenous.

Lenard

pre 8 godina

The above statements by Lavrov say it all, sanctions are weakening Russia and their criminal dictator. Otherwise, Putin and his proxy Lavrov would not be screaming like stuck pigs. Russia getting involved in Syria to supposedly to fight ISIS only reveals how desperate Putin has become because of Western sanctions. He has yet to attack ISIS, concentrating his aggression only on moderate rebel groups in Syria fighting Assad. Putin actually thinks he can convince the West, with Russia being involved militarily in the Middle East, he is no longer part of the problem and that Western sanctions should be lifted against Russia. How amusing! Putin is only delaying the downfall of Assad and consequently prolonging the suffering of millions refugees attempting to escape both Assad's and ISIS's brutality. In the end, Putin and Russia will worse off than had he done nothing to assist Assad.
(The Count of Kosova, 4 October 2015 22:55) So rite worst part the bozo Putin with a mad Napoleonic complex will get even more desperate. That he will call for a alliance of other criminal despots dictators bozos to attack Israel. The outcome will be so morbid a judgement from God on the wicked.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

Meanwhile,
...Trans-Pacific free trade deal agreed creating vast partnership.The US, Japan and 10 other Pacific rim countries have signed a controversial and sweeping trade agreement that covers about 40% of the world economy.

Good luck BRIC of toilet!
I wish Serbia doesn't follow the BRIC of toilet but joins EU whose weight in world economy is 30%.

just a note.

pre 8 godina

(sj, 5 October 2015 19:57)
It's always amusing when we read on here what a powerhouse Russia is, what an economic Utopia it is and how they are going to become the new masters of the world.
The day you start see migration to Russia and not away from it will be the day you achieve credibility. In migration, I am speaking of working families that believe what is peddled here, not economic or war refugees, they are going places for the next meal and a roof over their head.
But you do not see that migration to Russia and China, you do not see masses of people who are success stories willing to go and place their holdings in the hands of those banks (under govt control).
And every Serb not living in Serbia who preaches the Russian dream, lives in the west.
It's like when someone wants to tell you of an incredible deal that you cannot miss out on, but yet they have not themselves taken advantage of, leaves a lot of questions in your mind.
But they are harmless, nothing more than sleazy used car salesmen, they can only hurt you if you fall for the pitch.

Jugolsavija

pre 8 godina

ow amusing! Putin is only delaying the downfall of Assad and consequently prolonging the suffering of millions refugees attempting to escape both Assad's and ISIS's brutality. In the end, Putin and Russia will worse off than had he done nothing to assist Assad.
(The Count of Kosova, 4 October 2015 22:55)

Your watching too much CNN, try switching the station. What is even more entertaining or sad is the fact the US just signed a deal with IRAN to lift sanctions who will now support Russian with ground troops in Syria.

joseph

pre 8 godina

The Crimean SSR was attached to Ucraine SSR in the 50s by Krruschov when a canal was being built from Ucraine to Crrimea to supply water. It was never part of the Ucrraine SSR prior to that. Sergei Kruschov, Nikolai's son, a US citizen says Mr Yeltsin should have corrected this at the time of the breakup.
The US by overthrowing Yanukovich's democratically elected Governmnt, caused a coup, putting in power a NAZI government. and don't forget the ex- ucraine SSR has nuclear power.
'judgment from God on the wicked'.
Who is God ? and who are the wicked. If you talk to Cain or Abel, you'll get Two opposite stories. Be advised, however, that God is YHWH of the bible, which is without error(KJV)and Elijah ( which means YAH is God).

sj

pre 8 godina

(just a note., 7 October 2015 00:21)

The vast majority of refugees want to move to social security heaven, where they will never work and live off the taxpayer for the rest of their lives. Russia and China do not have those systems in place and therefore its not attractive to move there, but they do have in place systems for their people.

Germany is strainingt. Another fact is China is the number 1 economy in the world, maybe by 4031 the US will admit it, LOL. There are over 2 million foreigners living and working in China alone mate. On the issue of Russia I suggest you read my comment again and no the so called sanctions are not hurting Moscow at all unless its economy has been affected badly by not importing Polish grown apples and pears.

The western sanctions are a joke and only people like yourself believe in them.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Another fact is China is the number 1 economy in the world, maybe by 4031 the US will admit it, LOL.
(sj, 7 October 2015 21:43)

Yeah, it's indeed laughable that the Yankees refuse to admit that and pay attention to the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj.

For some reason a Yankee is so stupid to care more for the wellbeing of him/herself and his/her family (i.e. the GDP per person at PPP of a Yankee is 4x than the one of a Chinese - it's so unfortunate that China's pie has to be divided among many more people than the US' pie).

But I totally agree with you (as usual) that a person should rather put first the honor and the great privilege of living in the largest economy in the world, not materialistic things like his/her individual wellbeing.

A Chinese is 4x poorer than a Yankee, but a Chinese has the honor of living in the largest economy in the world and the spiritual pleasure that honor brings is capable of making anybody forget poverty and hunger and feel rich. The entire world envies the Chinese so much for living in the largest economy in the world. What a wonderful (albeit poor) place is that to be.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 8 godina

Your watching too much CNN, try switching the station. What is even more entertaining or sad is the fact the US just signed a deal with IRAN to lift sanctions who will now support Russian with ground troops in Syria.
(Jugolsavija, 6 October 2015 19:12)

Sad for whom? For you? I can totally see that and I understand...

Fortunatelly for the US, the US does not operate like the Serbs or Russians who's mentality is to do the opposite what the US says or does. That means giving the control of the decisions to somebody else :)

The US might disagree with Iran in some areas, but that does not mean that it can't agree with Iran on others, just because Iran takes Russia's side in regards to Syria.

sj

pre 8 godina

icj1

Ahhh, the IA has certainly not improved during my six month tour of Europe. Babbling as usual incoherently which it only knows how to.

Have a good look at Syria and see what the Russian s are doing there and your mighty Yankess are silent. They can’t even lift a finger LOL.

Perhaps you might talk to a few Americans and ask them how its going the US. I strongly suggest that you get over this GDP or PPP business as these are only figures on paper. For your information Montenegro has a so called higher GDP than Serbia and I have been to both and it’s a hoot to even suggest that the Montenegrin economy is strong, but you are obviously looking at an Albanian economics text book where it states that money grows on trees LOL.

You need to get out and travel and stop using the CIA Worldbook. China alone has now over 370 million middle class alone mate.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Ahhh, the IA has certainly not improved during my six month tour of Europe.
(sj, 13 October 2015 07:18)

Well, yes, these forums lacked the brilliant analysis of the CE of B92 forums sj for a few months while he/she was trying to make the reality match his/her teachings...
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Babbling as usual incoherently which it only knows how to.
(sj, 13 October 2015 07:18)

Well, I guess if quoting the CE of B92 forums sj is considered babbling, that says it all haha
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Have a good look at Syria and see what the Russian s are doing there and your mighty Yankess are silent. They can’t even lift a finger LOL.
(sj, 13 October 2015 07:18)

"Mighty" Yankess... Oh dear!!! According to the CE of B92 forums sj the Yankess are all p... and wind. Where is that "mighty" coming from mate? You don't trust the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj?!
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I strongly suggest that you get over this GDP or PPP business as these are only figures on paper.
(sj, 13 October 2015 07:18)

Oh, I see... So when the CE of B92 forums sj said that China is the number 1 economy in the world he/she meant that was only on paper!
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You need to get out and travel and stop using the CIA Worldbook. China alone has now over 370 million middle class alone mate.
(sj, 13 October 2015 07:18)

Hmmm, just 370 million?!!!! How about the remaining 1 billion?!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Nenad

pre 8 godina

What an evil, spiteful leadership that Russia has. Putin is the closest thing there is to an anti-Christ.

Just listen to Lavrov lecturing about interfering in another country's internal affairs, as if Russia hadn't openly invaded and annexed Crimea only just last year.

And now we see that Russian planes are bombing the FSA, who've been desperately trying to defeat a Putin-like dictator for 4 years now.

Thanks to their size and nuclear arsenal, they are able to get away with being the world's bad guys.

Russia is just another example of what's wrong with the human race, like slavery, the mistreatment of animals, global warming, greed...

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

Good,
Take Venezuela,Iran,Syria,Zimbave and Serbia and live us alone.
What will hurt Russia the most, is the second defeat in second Cold War.

Winston

pre 8 godina

Russia walked in and literally stole another sovereign country's territory, and this hypocrite talks about respecting the UN charter and unilateral actions. I have always been amazed at Russian "lie in you face" diplomacy. Nothing has changed much with there genetically modified communists. In order to be respected, Larov, your nation's actions must match you words.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Russia "wants to enshrine the principle of non-interference in the internal affairs of sovereign states in an international declaration - 'a fundamental principle of the UN Charter which, unfortunately, is often violated'

Hmm... yeah violated by Russia in Ukraine, for example :) no wonder this guy has become laughing stock

In addition, stuff like "internal affairs" that cause hundreds of thousand of refugees fleeing to neighboring countries (like Serbia's "internal affair" of Kosovo in Spring 1999) can't be internal affairs.

The Count of Kosova

pre 8 godina

Lavrov warned against the principle of the so-called “legal extraterritoriality” when unilateral sanctions are imposed in circumvention of the UN Security Council and are aimed at undermining a country’s economic and social stability.

“Economic ties, trade, technological exchanges all this holds the key to development while one-sided sanctions thwart the countries’ pursuit of a better life,” Lavrov said.


The above statements by Lavrov say it all, sanctions are weakening Russia and their criminal dictator. Otherwise, Putin and his proxy Lavrov would not be screaming like stuck pigs. Russia getting involved in Syria to supposedly to fight ISIS only reveals how desperate Putin has become because of Western sanctions. He has yet to attack ISIS, concentrating his aggression only on moderate rebel groups in Syria fighting Assad. Putin actually thinks he can convince the West, with Russia being involved militarily in the Middle East, he is no longer part of the problem and that Western sanctions should be lifted against Russia. How amusing! Putin is only delaying the downfall of Assad and consequently prolonging the suffering of millions refugees attempting to escape both Assad's and ISIS's brutality. In the end, Putin and Russia will worse off than had he done nothing to assist Assad.

Paul

pre 8 godina

Economic growth and "powerhouses" in Latin America? Where?

It's a little weird. Lavrov hasn't changed a thing about himself since the Soviet Union.

Bilbao

pre 8 godina

It doesn't take orders from anyone.

Maybe you can go join those countries.
(factman, 3 October 2015 00:18)

hihih you must not live in Serbia to know that it does take orders, from many in the West.

So how is Bulgaria West and Serbia is East? If your geography was say near Ukraine u can say that neither West nor East but in todays world you are in West sphere of influence like it or not.

Nenad

pre 8 godina

Every thing you say is anti Serb, anti Orthodox, anti Russian and always pro albanian, pro muslim, pro nato, pro croatian. Stop pretending to be a Serb when everyone knows you are not.
(???, 2 October 2015 22:42)

Drives you crazy, doesn’t it? But don’t you mean “mindless Serb”? The irony in your comment is that you paint Serbs out to be NOTHING BUT pro-Russian, which reveals a severe shortage of critical thought in Serbian society (that is to say, your version of it).

Apart from that, you grossly mischaracterize me. I am most certainly not anti-Serb, anti-Orthodox or anti-Russian – I’m merely anti-dictator and anti-thug. Unfortunately, we’ve seen many of this sort coming out of Serbia and Russia over the years. I view Albanians, Muslims and Croats the same way: no problem with most of them, just don’t like their criminal leaders. For instance, I have often remarked that Tudjman was every bit as bad as Milosevic. And I agree that there were Serbs victimized by Muslims and Albanians. And I don’t place Serbs below any other ethnic group. People are people: most are good, a few are bad – especially when they have too much power. Like Putin.

Pozdrav, my mysteriously-named friend. On this night, your screen name should be #?%$, given your obvious hostility toward me.

Roger7

pre 8 godina

Russia is just another example of what's wrong with the human race, like slavery, the mistreatment of animals, global warming, greed...
(Nenad, 2 October 2015 21:36)

LOL! You could say the very same thing about the USA and China.

Too, funny, using Nenad as one of your aliases.

???

pre 8 godina

What an evil, spiteful leadership that Russia has. Putin is the closest thing there is to an anti-Christ.

Just listen to Lavrov lecturing about interfering in another country's internal affairs, as if Russia hadn't openly invaded and annexed Crimea only just last year.

And now we see that Russian planes are bombing the FSA, who've been desperately trying to defeat a Putin-like dictator for 4 years now.

Thanks to their size and nuclear arsenal, they are able to get away with being the world's bad guys.

Russia is just another example of what's wrong with the human race, like slavery, the mistreatment of animals, global warming, greed...
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Are you sure your name is not Nedzad? Every thing you say is anti Serb, anti Orthodox, anti Russian and always pro albanian, pro muslim, pro nato, pro croatian. Stop pretending to be a Serb when everyone knows you are not.

Lenard

pre 8 godina

The above statements by Lavrov say it all, sanctions are weakening Russia and their criminal dictator. Otherwise, Putin and his proxy Lavrov would not be screaming like stuck pigs. Russia getting involved in Syria to supposedly to fight ISIS only reveals how desperate Putin has become because of Western sanctions. He has yet to attack ISIS, concentrating his aggression only on moderate rebel groups in Syria fighting Assad. Putin actually thinks he can convince the West, with Russia being involved militarily in the Middle East, he is no longer part of the problem and that Western sanctions should be lifted against Russia. How amusing! Putin is only delaying the downfall of Assad and consequently prolonging the suffering of millions refugees attempting to escape both Assad's and ISIS's brutality. In the end, Putin and Russia will worse off than had he done nothing to assist Assad.
(The Count of Kosova, 4 October 2015 22:55) So rite worst part the bozo Putin with a mad Napoleonic complex will get even more desperate. That he will call for a alliance of other criminal despots dictators bozos to attack Israel. The outcome will be so morbid a judgement from God on the wicked.

Navi

pre 8 godina

I would like to ask Lavrov "how come Russia isn't helping Ukraine government fight terrorists too"?
(Avni, 3 October 2015 00:10)

They are, they're called the Azov Battalion.

factman

pre 8 godina

Bilbao,

Serbia is neither East nor West but both East and West because it says it (and behaves aa such)


You need to read Serb history a bit. It takes orders from no one. If it did, all of this that is debated every day on this site would have been done a long time ago.

rote

pre 8 godina

The C*unt of Kosovo

When you start to menstruate about Russia or Serbia I always think that it’s an open doors day in your madhouse. Just read once what BS you place here ! You sometimes can be rather reasonable but most often you menstruate like this. What sanctions are you talking about ? The only thing that really harms us is the low crude oil price. Everything else is only good for us as it forces us to develop our own industries. Do you know the volume of contracts of Rosatom today ? They are USD 367 Bln already and we annually export 30-35 million tons of wheat and we almost reached the US arms sales level. Ect. ect. So Pussy stop your hysteria and accept the new reality - Russia is back on the stage ! We all know that it’s a bad news for the Shqiptars but if you change your attitude and stop blackmailing Serbia you can gain very much. Just accept the new reality and that’s all.

Navi

pre 8 godina

Just listen to Lavrov lecturing about interfering in another country's internal affairs, as if Russia hadn't openly invaded and annexed Crimea only just last year.
(Nenad, 2 October 2015 21:36)

He almost sounds like an American.

factman

pre 8 godina

Muzaka,

Serbia is neither Eas nor West.

It is both.

Always was.

It doesn't take orders from anyone.

Maybe you can go join those countries.

Beth

pre 8 godina

Good to have Russia on board. I loved Sergei Lavrov's reply to an English-speaking reporter. Lavrov said in fluent English, after the guy mentioned that Russia was bombing anti-Assad forces, i.e. 'Do you know something I don't.' Bravo Lavrov!

icj1

pre 8 godina

Good to have Russia on board. I loved Sergei Lavrov's reply to an English-speaking reporter. Lavrov said in fluent English, after the guy mentioned that Russia was bombing anti-Assad forces, i.e. 'Do you know something I don't.' Bravo Lavrov!
(Beth, 4 October 2015 15:18)

yup, the above shows that Lavrov achieved his goal of selling trash to the mindless Russian populace or people similar to the Russian populace (i.e. like you) who buy everything that the Kremlin sells without trying to use a single neuron to think about it :)

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 8 godina

Meanwhile,
...Trans-Pacific free trade deal agreed creating vast partnership.The US, Japan and 10 other Pacific rim countries have signed a controversial and sweeping trade agreement that covers about 40% of the world economy.

Good luck BRIC of toilet!
I wish Serbia doesn't follow the BRIC of toilet but joins EU whose weight in world economy is 30%.

sj

pre 8 godina

The Count of Kosova, 4 October 2015 22:55)
I strongly recommend that you get out of your computer room and go to Russia and see the so called affects of the sanctions on Russia. I have recently been there and I can tell you that it has no affect on Moscow at all. The real problem with people like you is that you rely too much on western media which tells you every day of the enormous strength of the west, in particular the US. Those days are over and even the Germans privately admit that Moscow has become more important to Berlin than Washington.
Putin will bomb the crap out of the so called freedom fighters and the west will do nothing at all about it.

Kreshnik

pre 8 godina

If the end of the New World Order means characters like Milosevic get to live to fight another day, I want none of it. Russia's world works only if states are homogenous.

just a note.

pre 8 godina

(sj, 5 October 2015 19:57)
It's always amusing when we read on here what a powerhouse Russia is, what an economic Utopia it is and how they are going to become the new masters of the world.
The day you start see migration to Russia and not away from it will be the day you achieve credibility. In migration, I am speaking of working families that believe what is peddled here, not economic or war refugees, they are going places for the next meal and a roof over their head.
But you do not see that migration to Russia and China, you do not see masses of people who are success stories willing to go and place their holdings in the hands of those banks (under govt control).
And every Serb not living in Serbia who preaches the Russian dream, lives in the west.
It's like when someone wants to tell you of an incredible deal that you cannot miss out on, but yet they have not themselves taken advantage of, leaves a lot of questions in your mind.
But they are harmless, nothing more than sleazy used car salesmen, they can only hurt you if you fall for the pitch.

joseph

pre 8 godina

The Crimean SSR was attached to Ucraine SSR in the 50s by Krruschov when a canal was being built from Ucraine to Crrimea to supply water. It was never part of the Ucrraine SSR prior to that. Sergei Kruschov, Nikolai's son, a US citizen says Mr Yeltsin should have corrected this at the time of the breakup.
The US by overthrowing Yanukovich's democratically elected Governmnt, caused a coup, putting in power a NAZI government. and don't forget the ex- ucraine SSR has nuclear power.
'judgment from God on the wicked'.
Who is God ? and who are the wicked. If you talk to Cain or Abel, you'll get Two opposite stories. Be advised, however, that God is YHWH of the bible, which is without error(KJV)and Elijah ( which means YAH is God).

icj1

pre 8 godina

Another fact is China is the number 1 economy in the world, maybe by 4031 the US will admit it, LOL.
(sj, 7 October 2015 21:43)

Yeah, it's indeed laughable that the Yankees refuse to admit that and pay attention to the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj.

For some reason a Yankee is so stupid to care more for the wellbeing of him/herself and his/her family (i.e. the GDP per person at PPP of a Yankee is 4x than the one of a Chinese - it's so unfortunate that China's pie has to be divided among many more people than the US' pie).

But I totally agree with you (as usual) that a person should rather put first the honor and the great privilege of living in the largest economy in the world, not materialistic things like his/her individual wellbeing.

A Chinese is 4x poorer than a Yankee, but a Chinese has the honor of living in the largest economy in the world and the spiritual pleasure that honor brings is capable of making anybody forget poverty and hunger and feel rich. The entire world envies the Chinese so much for living in the largest economy in the world. What a wonderful (albeit poor) place is that to be.

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 8 godina

Your watching too much CNN, try switching the station. What is even more entertaining or sad is the fact the US just signed a deal with IRAN to lift sanctions who will now support Russian with ground troops in Syria.
(Jugolsavija, 6 October 2015 19:12)

Sad for whom? For you? I can totally see that and I understand...

Fortunatelly for the US, the US does not operate like the Serbs or Russians who's mentality is to do the opposite what the US says or does. That means giving the control of the decisions to somebody else :)

The US might disagree with Iran in some areas, but that does not mean that it can't agree with Iran on others, just because Iran takes Russia's side in regards to Syria.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Ahhh, the IA has certainly not improved during my six month tour of Europe.
(sj, 13 October 2015 07:18)

Well, yes, these forums lacked the brilliant analysis of the CE of B92 forums sj for a few months while he/she was trying to make the reality match his/her teachings...
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Babbling as usual incoherently which it only knows how to.
(sj, 13 October 2015 07:18)

Well, I guess if quoting the CE of B92 forums sj is considered babbling, that says it all haha
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Have a good look at Syria and see what the Russian s are doing there and your mighty Yankess are silent. They can’t even lift a finger LOL.
(sj, 13 October 2015 07:18)

"Mighty" Yankess... Oh dear!!! According to the CE of B92 forums sj the Yankess are all p... and wind. Where is that "mighty" coming from mate? You don't trust the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj?!
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I strongly suggest that you get over this GDP or PPP business as these are only figures on paper.
(sj, 13 October 2015 07:18)

Oh, I see... So when the CE of B92 forums sj said that China is the number 1 economy in the world he/she meant that was only on paper!
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You need to get out and travel and stop using the CIA Worldbook. China alone has now over 370 million middle class alone mate.
(sj, 13 October 2015 07:18)

Hmmm, just 370 million?!!!! How about the remaining 1 billion?!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Jugolsavija

pre 8 godina

ow amusing! Putin is only delaying the downfall of Assad and consequently prolonging the suffering of millions refugees attempting to escape both Assad's and ISIS's brutality. In the end, Putin and Russia will worse off than had he done nothing to assist Assad.
(The Count of Kosova, 4 October 2015 22:55)

Your watching too much CNN, try switching the station. What is even more entertaining or sad is the fact the US just signed a deal with IRAN to lift sanctions who will now support Russian with ground troops in Syria.

sj

pre 8 godina

(just a note., 7 October 2015 00:21)

The vast majority of refugees want to move to social security heaven, where they will never work and live off the taxpayer for the rest of their lives. Russia and China do not have those systems in place and therefore its not attractive to move there, but they do have in place systems for their people.

Germany is strainingt. Another fact is China is the number 1 economy in the world, maybe by 4031 the US will admit it, LOL. There are over 2 million foreigners living and working in China alone mate. On the issue of Russia I suggest you read my comment again and no the so called sanctions are not hurting Moscow at all unless its economy has been affected badly by not importing Polish grown apples and pears.

The western sanctions are a joke and only people like yourself believe in them.

sj

pre 8 godina

icj1

Ahhh, the IA has certainly not improved during my six month tour of Europe. Babbling as usual incoherently which it only knows how to.

Have a good look at Syria and see what the Russian s are doing there and your mighty Yankess are silent. They can’t even lift a finger LOL.

Perhaps you might talk to a few Americans and ask them how its going the US. I strongly suggest that you get over this GDP or PPP business as these are only figures on paper. For your information Montenegro has a so called higher GDP than Serbia and I have been to both and it’s a hoot to even suggest that the Montenegrin economy is strong, but you are obviously looking at an Albanian economics text book where it states that money grows on trees LOL.

You need to get out and travel and stop using the CIA Worldbook. China alone has now over 370 million middle class alone mate.