FM: No indications Greece might recognize Kosovo

Greece will recognize the Republic of kosovo! I've stated on this fact on many occasions, & for years on this news site and many others, that in Southern Europe no other people are closer by blood, customs, traditions, dress, etc, then we the Greek nation and the Albanian nation, period! Our history together in the Balkans spans for more then 2500 years B.C. to the time of homer, Achilles, Alexander the Great! We together have fought against the Persians, Romans, ottomans, and yes even against the barbaric Slavs on many occasions!nThe Slavic race is a fairly a new race that has emerged in the Balkans, only starting to settle in the Balkans around 790-850A.D, already finding the Albanian & Greek nations established.Today only a very few things divide the Albanian and Greek nations, religion most likely being #1, however you do have many many orthodox Christian Albanians scattered thru out Albania, you also have Islamic practicing Greeks in Greece as well, and we cannot allow this to be a division, as we all know our bloody history ! We must find ways to strengthen and enrich our relations thru the negotiating channels! As for today's temporary Macedonia, both Greek and Albanian historians now well that their forefathers were the original inhabiters of this ancient land, and they know very well that 50% of today's Macedonian inhabitants are only new comers to this Balkan region trying to rewrite history! The truth will find a way to manifest itself, To a new future!
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Rocky,

I find your comment really amusing.”Our history together in the Balkans spans for more then 2500 years B.C. to the time of Homer, Achilles, Alexander the Great! We together have fought against the Persians, Romans, ottomans “Not even Enver Hoxha or his disciples Ali Berisha & Rama would ever make such a claim! .You are not the first and certainly not the last Turko-Albanian to utter such nonsense and I am more than certain you’re unable to produce any concrete evidence in terms of either historiography or archaeology to support your pseudo-historical fantasies. You see history is discussed on the basis of evidence, be it partly flawed or not, not on what each side fantasizes. Show me any SERIOUS MODERN HISTORIAN who considers that Albanians have any relation to ancient peoples such as Macedonians,Dorians,Thessalians or Pelasgians, since the first three of them undoubtedly spoke Greek dialects and, in regards to the last ones, we don't have the slightest clue of what language they spoke.The only common feature between Greeks and Albanians are the borders.The following link is a Scientific genetic atlas of human admixture history. Click on Greece and see which modern nations relate to modern Greeks.

http://admixturemap.paintmychromosomes.com/

If Greece does recognize, no one is more to blame then our own political clowns in office both prior and present.
Think about it, our very own supposed savior Slobodan. M started this whole mess between Serbia & Greece, he should have never allowed Macedonia to succeed and then recognize a independent Macedonia in the first place? A region inhabited by many potential Bulgarian, Albanian, and some Greek separatists? Slobodan's old communist style propaganda had many of us believing his was the savior of the Serb nation? Now the very existence of the Slav population of Macedonia will be threaten here as well. And our political clowns of today do not possess the necessary spine to intervene, as they are so occupied with the dream of joining a sinking EU. If Greece is to recognize it will cause a domino effect of recognitions, which will include some our most historical and staunch allies.
The citizens of this once great nation have been taken for fools, and No one else is more to blame then our very own brown-nosed leaders in Belgrade, and it is hard to believe that they weren't aware of the consequences all along? Something to think about?

? Let's give that Link to that documentary one more shot!
http://youtu.be/M99ze151HvA

Leonidass,

The presence of the Albanians on the Balkan Peninsula has been very well documented. Albanians/Illyriyans have been there at least as long as the ancient Greeks. If you choose to stay in the dark on the issue then that's up to you.

No people have closer blood ties to the Turks than the Greeks. Albanians are fair skinned and many have light eyes. GreeKs and Turks do not. You are what you are. I won't hold it against you. Also, There are many Greeks who have Albanian roots. I'm sure you know that.

The closest link of modern day Greeks to the ancient Greeks could be through the Greko-Albanian population. By bloodline, you probably have as much claim to the ancient Greeks as the Fyromians to the ancient Macedonians.

Leonidas, could you describe your physical appearance? There's a good chance you resemble your neighbors to the south. And, that's OK.

@Rocky - religion is not the biggest difference between the Albanians and the Greeks. It's their language.

Are you going to demand explanations when you travel to Greece too? You're the root of destruction when it comes to Serbias relationships with many around her!

Leonidas:

Calm down Zorba. i'm sure you check your dna on a daily basis, perhaps to reassure yourself you're not a monkey.

Cry me a river,

The presence of the Albanians on the Balkan Peninsula has been very well documented
If there are so many modern historians claiming what you say,then show me at least one such.A modern one, who is still alive and not Albanian or half-Albanian, like that Mathieu Aref.

Albanians/Illyriyans have been there at least as long as the ancient Greeks
Could you tell where I can go and read about this, as I am awfully intrigued.What is known is that Illyrians were considered a number of different tribes, not a unified people, and it wasn't even clear what relation they had to each other and the evidence that we have of the people that the Greeks called Pelasgians is that they were not one people but a mixed bag and not relation to modern Albanians whose earlier record in the Balkans is the 11th century.

No people have closer blood ties to the Turks than the Greeks.

You say that but scientific link I've sent you say otherwise.

he closest link of modern day Greeks to the ancient Greeks could be through the Greko-Albanian population.

No serious historian would ever claim that modern peoples are direct descendants of ancient peoples.What really matters is continuation (e.g. culture, language, traditions) which ensure the historical sense of an evolving community through time.Hence,modern Greeks have several features enabling them to look back to antiquity.
Leonidas, could you describe your physical appearance?
I used to play basketball.

Azir

Video-links shot by pseudo-historians, are not backed at all by any epigraphical & archaeological data and no one pays attention to them, apart from Albanian ultra-nationalists like yourself who build their lame nationalist myths on them.Furthermore,Arvanites have nothing to do with modern Albanians.

Its time for Greeks to take their country back, no more German-EU occupation and humiliation. The sooner this weak treacherous gang of fake left-wingers is removed the better.

The claim that Albanians were Illyrians is DUBIOUS. It was propaganda by Germans and Austrians who were using Albanians against Serbs.

Long before they decided to claim Albanians were of Illyrian heritage, Serbs were called Illyrian people by Austrians. That is in documents from the 18th century.

Albanians were only mentioned around the 11th century and they are believed to come from the area where Azerbaijan is now.

It was probably just rumor and fear-mongering by the Serbian "news"/tabloids in the first place.

Albanians are a tragically funny people! Albanians actually believe in the Western concocted myth that they are Illyrians, just hilarious how gullible some people can be! Illyrians, an ancient Balkan tribe that left nothing behind and vanished without a trace, how convenient! You know I feel sorry for your ignorance and will do you a solid, you’re welcome in advance. Okay so you want to pretend to be Illyrians for political purposes, I get it but how about a theory that is believable for most people? How about this: Albanians are the remnant of Romans that dominated much of the Balkans like the Romanians. This makes much more sense and if you look at Albanian facial/physical features it becomes clear that there is a resemblance to southern Italians and also many Albanians have Italian sounding last names. Mussolini knew this which is why he made Albania part of his empire in 1939. There you have it, and your political motivations are still intact since Albanians would pre-date Slavs in the region.

1. There isn't any Kosovo to be recognised, Kosovo was, is and always will be Serbian, 2. EU couldn't care less about Balkan countries, they own all of them anyway, 3. There is a bloodline between Ancient Greeks and Moderns Greeks, because as much Greek population was mixed during ottoman empire's era in the end of the day Greeks were giving birth to Greeks. Greek tribe was infected, not faded away. You're welcome.

Albanians are a tragically funny people! Albanians actually believe in the Western concocted myth that they are Illyrians, just hilarious how gullible some people can be! Illyrians, an ancient Balkan tribe that left nothing behind and vanished without a trace, how convenient! (The Driver, 15 August 2015 19:33)

The ignorance of these illiterate Serbian commentators is beyond ignorance, its stupidity at the most extreme levels! Only they
(extremist-radical-Serbs) try desperately to rebuff what is true, because this is all they can do is try to refuse and accept the truth, the truth being that the Albanian nation is one of the most ancient nations of southern Europe, Serbia's most staunchest allies "Russia" accepts this as a fact! Read Russian?
http://russkiymir.ru/publications/85023/?sphrase_id=107595

And what some Greeks have to say about the Albanian-Arvanites!
Speak Greek?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgi_DLtL_Jg

1. There isn't any Kosovo to be recognised
(The Bug, 15 August 2015 21:51)

Well, it appears that 110+ countries failed to see the teachings of a certain "Bug" and did see something to recognize lol
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Kosovo was, is and always will be Serbian
(The Bug, 15 August 2015 21:51)

Not sure what the above means in practical terms, but whatever... If that makes you happy, absolutely!

The Count of Kosova

It must be clear to everyone by now that you're not aware of the content of articles appearing on this site.If it is too difficult for you to understand you should perhaps try a publication with a lower reading age.

@ Leonides: http://youtu.be/c0mMTwLn3mA

Here is another one for you Leonides:http://youtu.be/8YDlLlwyaSw

I've been also reading that Israel is also very close to recognizing The Republic Of Kosovo very soon, in a matter of a few months? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgIQAF6kkUQ

Jesus taught that none of this gibberish matters. We are each a holy child of our Divine Father and nobody else. The only wrongs I need recognize and acknowledge are my own. I then ask for forgiveness for my mistakes, and change (repent) my thoughts, words, and actions to those befitting a blessed child of God. And as I cannot accomplish this all by my lil ol self, moment to moment I pray for His grace to work these changes in me.

There is no way to peace. Peace is the way.

Walk this Way, today and every day.

Albanians were only mentioned around the 11th century and they are believed to come from the area where Azerbaijan is now.

(ida)

1/ Caucasian Albania as any other had nothing to do with the Shqiptar people. Albanians (= the whites) were the people from the White Horde and this is why Britain is till called Albion. In Azerbaijan there was only one of their strong ponts.

2/ Srbs from Dushan’s Zakonnik also had nothing to do with the Serbs as letter “b” sounded as “V” as well. So the Cyrillic СРВ was pronounced as SERV and it had no ethnical meaning as all people of the Great Horde were either SERVS or NON SERVS. Any prince or a Cossack could be a serv so you privatized the Zakonnik in vain.

3/ Most likely all Balkan peoples were called Bulgars. At least this is how they were marked in the Big Stamps of Ivan III and Ivan IV. And this is how you called Contantinople after you seized it in 1453. If Serbs had any other name but the Bulgars it could be either Macedonians or the Turks.

4/ Nations started to form only after the fall of the White Horde in late 16 century. Before that there were no Germans, no Russians or Turks as nations and religions meant little. Important was only that you pay the taxes and obey.

5/ later in 17 century some peoples got their names after geographical places like the Bulgars or their military leaders like the Macedonians. But many were granted their current names by Scaliger/Petavius without any proof. Just because they said so.

Greece will recognize the Republic of kosovo! I've stated on this fact on many occasions, & for years on this news site and many others, that in Southern Europe no other people are closer by blood, customs, traditions, dress, etc, then we the Greek nation and the Albanian nation, period! Our history together in the Balkans spans for more then 2500 years B.C. to the time of homer, Achilles, Alexander the Great! We together have fought against the Persians, Romans, ottomans, and yes even against the barbaric Slavs on many occasions!nThe Slavic race is a fairly a new race that has emerged in the Balkans, only starting to settle in the Balkans around 790-850A.D, already finding the Albanian & Greek nations established.Today only a very few things divide the Albanian and Greek nations, religion most likely being #1, however you do have many many orthodox Christian Albanians scattered thru out Albania, you also have Islamic practicing Greeks in Greece as well, and we cannot allow this to be a division, as we all know our bloody history ! We must find ways to strengthen and enrich our relations thru the negotiating channels! As for today's temporary Macedonia, both Greek and Albanian historians now well that their forefathers were the original inhabiters of this ancient land, and they know very well that 50% of today's Macedonian inhabitants are only new comers to this Balkan region trying to rewrite history! The truth will find a way to manifest itself, To a new future!
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Rocky,

I find your comment really amusing.”Our history together in the Balkans spans for more then 2500 years B.C. to the time of Homer, Achilles, Alexander the Great! We together have fought against the Persians, Romans, ottomans “Not even Enver Hoxha or his disciples Ali Berisha & Rama would ever make such a claim! .You are not the first and certainly not the last Turko-Albanian to utter such nonsense and I am more than certain you’re unable to produce any concrete evidence in terms of either historiography or archaeology to support your pseudo-historical fantasies. You see history is discussed on the basis of evidence, be it partly flawed or not, not on what each side fantasizes. Show me any SERIOUS MODERN HISTORIAN who considers that Albanians have any relation to ancient peoples such as Macedonians,Dorians,Thessalians or Pelasgians, since the first three of them undoubtedly spoke Greek dialects and, in regards to the last ones, we don't have the slightest clue of what language they spoke.The only common feature between Greeks and Albanians are the borders.The following link is a Scientific genetic atlas of human admixture history. Click on Greece and see which modern nations relate to modern Greeks.

http://admixturemap.paintmychromosomes.com/

? Let's give that Link to that documentary one more shot!
http://youtu.be/M99ze151HvA

Are you going to demand explanations when you travel to Greece too? You're the root of destruction when it comes to Serbias relationships with many around her!

The claim that Albanians were Illyrians is DUBIOUS. It was propaganda by Germans and Austrians who were using Albanians against Serbs.

Long before they decided to claim Albanians were of Illyrian heritage, Serbs were called Illyrian people by Austrians. That is in documents from the 18th century.

Albanians were only mentioned around the 11th century and they are believed to come from the area where Azerbaijan is now.

If Greece does recognize, no one is more to blame then our own political clowns in office both prior and present.
Think about it, our very own supposed savior Slobodan. M started this whole mess between Serbia & Greece, he should have never allowed Macedonia to succeed and then recognize a independent Macedonia in the first place? A region inhabited by many potential Bulgarian, Albanian, and some Greek separatists? Slobodan's old communist style propaganda had many of us believing his was the savior of the Serb nation? Now the very existence of the Slav population of Macedonia will be threaten here as well. And our political clowns of today do not possess the necessary spine to intervene, as they are so occupied with the dream of joining a sinking EU. If Greece is to recognize it will cause a domino effect of recognitions, which will include some our most historical and staunch allies.
The citizens of this once great nation have been taken for fools, and No one else is more to blame then our very own brown-nosed leaders in Belgrade, and it is hard to believe that they weren't aware of the consequences all along? Something to think about?

Azir

Video-links shot by pseudo-historians, are not backed at all by any epigraphical & archaeological data and no one pays attention to them, apart from Albanian ultra-nationalists like yourself who build their lame nationalist myths on them.Furthermore,Arvanites have nothing to do with modern Albanians.

@ Leonides: http://youtu.be/c0mMTwLn3mA

Here is another one for you Leonides:http://youtu.be/8YDlLlwyaSw

Leonidass,

The presence of the Albanians on the Balkan Peninsula has been very well documented. Albanians/Illyriyans have been there at least as long as the ancient Greeks. If you choose to stay in the dark on the issue then that's up to you.

No people have closer blood ties to the Turks than the Greeks. Albanians are fair skinned and many have light eyes. GreeKs and Turks do not. You are what you are. I won't hold it against you. Also, There are many Greeks who have Albanian roots. I'm sure you know that.

The closest link of modern day Greeks to the ancient Greeks could be through the Greko-Albanian population. By bloodline, you probably have as much claim to the ancient Greeks as the Fyromians to the ancient Macedonians.

Leonidas, could you describe your physical appearance? There's a good chance you resemble your neighbors to the south. And, that's OK.

@Rocky - religion is not the biggest difference between the Albanians and the Greeks. It's their language.

Its time for Greeks to take their country back, no more German-EU occupation and humiliation. The sooner this weak treacherous gang of fake left-wingers is removed the better.

Albanians are a tragically funny people! Albanians actually believe in the Western concocted myth that they are Illyrians, just hilarious how gullible some people can be! Illyrians, an ancient Balkan tribe that left nothing behind and vanished without a trace, how convenient! You know I feel sorry for your ignorance and will do you a solid, you’re welcome in advance. Okay so you want to pretend to be Illyrians for political purposes, I get it but how about a theory that is believable for most people? How about this: Albanians are the remnant of Romans that dominated much of the Balkans like the Romanians. This makes much more sense and if you look at Albanian facial/physical features it becomes clear that there is a resemblance to southern Italians and also many Albanians have Italian sounding last names. Mussolini knew this which is why he made Albania part of his empire in 1939. There you have it, and your political motivations are still intact since Albanians would pre-date Slavs in the region.

1. There isn't any Kosovo to be recognised, Kosovo was, is and always will be Serbian, 2. EU couldn't care less about Balkan countries, they own all of them anyway, 3. There is a bloodline between Ancient Greeks and Moderns Greeks, because as much Greek population was mixed during ottoman empire's era in the end of the day Greeks were giving birth to Greeks. Greek tribe was infected, not faded away. You're welcome.

Leonidas:

Calm down Zorba. i'm sure you check your dna on a daily basis, perhaps to reassure yourself you're not a monkey.

It was probably just rumor and fear-mongering by the Serbian "news"/tabloids in the first place.

Albanians were only mentioned around the 11th century and they are believed to come from the area where Azerbaijan is now.

(ida)

1/ Caucasian Albania as any other had nothing to do with the Shqiptar people. Albanians (= the whites) were the people from the White Horde and this is why Britain is till called Albion. In Azerbaijan there was only one of their strong ponts.

2/ Srbs from Dushan’s Zakonnik also had nothing to do with the Serbs as letter “b” sounded as “V” as well. So the Cyrillic СРВ was pronounced as SERV and it had no ethnical meaning as all people of the Great Horde were either SERVS or NON SERVS. Any prince or a Cossack could be a serv so you privatized the Zakonnik in vain.

3/ Most likely all Balkan peoples were called Bulgars. At least this is how they were marked in the Big Stamps of Ivan III and Ivan IV. And this is how you called Contantinople after you seized it in 1453. If Serbs had any other name but the Bulgars it could be either Macedonians or the Turks.

4/ Nations started to form only after the fall of the White Horde in late 16 century. Before that there were no Germans, no Russians or Turks as nations and religions meant little. Important was only that you pay the taxes and obey.

5/ later in 17 century some peoples got their names after geographical places like the Bulgars or their military leaders like the Macedonians. But many were granted their current names by Scaliger/Petavius without any proof. Just because they said so.

Albanians are a tragically funny people! Albanians actually believe in the Western concocted myth that they are Illyrians, just hilarious how gullible some people can be! Illyrians, an ancient Balkan tribe that left nothing behind and vanished without a trace, how convenient! (The Driver, 15 August 2015 19:33)

The ignorance of these illiterate Serbian commentators is beyond ignorance, its stupidity at the most extreme levels! Only they
(extremist-radical-Serbs) try desperately to rebuff what is true, because this is all they can do is try to refuse and accept the truth, the truth being that the Albanian nation is one of the most ancient nations of southern Europe, Serbia's most staunchest allies "Russia" accepts this as a fact! Read Russian?
http://russkiymir.ru/publications/85023/?sphrase_id=107595

And what some Greeks have to say about the Albanian-Arvanites!
Speak Greek?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgi_DLtL_Jg

The Count of Kosova

It must be clear to everyone by now that you're not aware of the content of articles appearing on this site.If it is too difficult for you to understand you should perhaps try a publication with a lower reading age.

Cry me a river,

The presence of the Albanians on the Balkan Peninsula has been very well documented
If there are so many modern historians claiming what you say,then show me at least one such.A modern one, who is still alive and not Albanian or half-Albanian, like that Mathieu Aref.

Albanians/Illyriyans have been there at least as long as the ancient Greeks
Could you tell where I can go and read about this, as I am awfully intrigued.What is known is that Illyrians were considered a number of different tribes, not a unified people, and it wasn't even clear what relation they had to each other and the evidence that we have of the people that the Greeks called Pelasgians is that they were not one people but a mixed bag and not relation to modern Albanians whose earlier record in the Balkans is the 11th century.

No people have closer blood ties to the Turks than the Greeks.

You say that but scientific link I've sent you say otherwise.

he closest link of modern day Greeks to the ancient Greeks could be through the Greko-Albanian population.

No serious historian would ever claim that modern peoples are direct descendants of ancient peoples.What really matters is continuation (e.g. culture, language, traditions) which ensure the historical sense of an evolving community through time.Hence,modern Greeks have several features enabling them to look back to antiquity.
Leonidas, could you describe your physical appearance?
I used to play basketball.

1. There isn't any Kosovo to be recognised
(The Bug, 15 August 2015 21:51)

Well, it appears that 110+ countries failed to see the teachings of a certain "Bug" and did see something to recognize lol
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Kosovo was, is and always will be Serbian
(The Bug, 15 August 2015 21:51)

Not sure what the above means in practical terms, but whatever... If that makes you happy, absolutely!

I've been also reading that Israel is also very close to recognizing The Republic Of Kosovo very soon, in a matter of a few months? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgIQAF6kkUQ

Jesus taught that none of this gibberish matters. We are each a holy child of our Divine Father and nobody else. The only wrongs I need recognize and acknowledge are my own. I then ask for forgiveness for my mistakes, and change (repent) my thoughts, words, and actions to those befitting a blessed child of God. And as I cannot accomplish this all by my lil ol self, moment to moment I pray for His grace to work these changes in me.

There is no way to peace. Peace is the way.

Walk this Way, today and every day.