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Wednesday, 12.08.2015.

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IS claims to have beheaded Croatian man kidnapped in Egypt

Croatian citizen Tomislav Salopek has been beheaded in Egypt, the Zagreb-based daily Jutranji List is reporting on Wednesday.

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Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

. Milosevic proved his case in the ICTY after which he was murdered to cover up the crimes of the international community and it's proxies including the KLA.
(jugoslavija, 13 August 2015 17:16)
Talk about historically inaccurate and with racist overtones!!!

Really, how so "JONI"?

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

I can't believe I am about to write this, but yes you are right Peggy, taking the Koran literally, will mean that one has to kill people. Taking the Bible literally, will also mean that one has to kill people. I think it would really help humanity if people stopped taking their morals from those two pieces of garbage and used common sense. Face it the Bible and the Koran are all about obedience to authority, only the authority in those books doesn't answer to anyone. Funny thing about the Koran is that it mentions Jesus a lot more than it does Mohammed. It also agrees with a lot of the bible, on Noah, Moses and a lot of other nonsense. It has only added another character, to tell simple humans how they must not sway from worshipping the dear leader, for his self esteem is really important. You don't have to look to far to see where North Korea gets his ideology from

Peggy

pre 8 godina

I feel very sorry that someone said that Serbs are butchers of the Balkan.If you see some comments from some idiot(there are many of them in every country) who says that he is glad to see Croatian man dead, it doesn't mean that everyone think like that. It is not just stupid to write that it is dangerous too. I feel very sorry for the Croatian guy,and my condolences to his family.
(Serb, 13 August 2015 11:01
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Don't worry about what these simpletons think. They complain no matter what we do.
I feel bad for anyone who has to go through this horror and my comment in no way showed any happiness about it but guess what, I still got three negative ticks. I'm not after any acknowledgements either way but just wanted to point out that no matter what we do we are still wrong in their eyes.
They actually want us to behave like them so then they would have something to hang on us.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Mike C: Thousands of Christian beheadings took place during the crusades. The point is that those perpetrating these atrocities are not representative of Islam in any sense. I'm no expert on the Koran (even though you have me down as a Muslim :-0) but I would be surprised if suicide bombings are explicitly mentioned.
(ned taylor, 13 August 2015 20:20
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You said it yourself. You are no expert on the Koran so you really can't say that this is not representative if Islam. According to an expert on Koran, Robert Spencer, this is exactly what Muslims are commanded to do. There are verses in the Koran which specifically deal with this so if you are a devout Muslim you are told to go and kill the unbelievers, take their women as slaves etc. etc.
Maybe you should go to Robert's site and read what exactly is going on around the world and how so many Imams are preaching in Mosques for Jihad. Now I think those Imams are very familiar with the Koran and if they say that's the way to go then you can't argue with it. Just because our government and our media tells us that Islam is a religion of peace and this is not Islamic doesn't mean that they are right. Listen to what what experts on the Koran say.

speechless

pre 8 godina

. Milosevic proved his case in the ICTY after which he was murdered to cover up the crimes of the international community and it's proxies including the KLA.
(jugoslavija, 13 August 2015 17:16)
Talk about historically inaccurate and with racist overtones!!!

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Mike C: Thousands of Christian beheadings took place during the crusades. The point is that those perpetrating these atrocities are not representative of Islam in any sense. I'm no expert on the Koran (even though you have me down as a Muslim :-0) but I would be surprised if suicide bombings are explicitly mentioned.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Jugoslavia: When you say 'Sarajevo' who do you mean? Certainly you cannot mean the populace because they have no interest at all in this. Are there one or two senior clerics who want this? Maybe. I want many things but that doesn't mean they are going to happen. Bosnian politicians want to join the EU (and fill their pockets with other people's money) and won't be doing this with Sharia Law. At least you haven't yet accused me of pretending to be British like Mike C. I would very much like to be any number of other nationalities but don't have that option.

jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Reading the comment below make me realize what kind of disturbing people you serbs are, and no surprise why you are named the butchers of Balkan.
"Hate"
(Joni, 13 August 2015 09:23)

I am not condoning any comments made of the death of this Croatian, in fact, this is not staged, he was a surveyor with no security and he was picked off from the road by ISIL.

Your comments are historically inaccurate with obvious racist overtones. The so called "Butcher of the Balkans" is Andrija Artukovic who was under the Croatian Nazi Ustashe Government of Ante Pavelic in 1941-1945. Milosevic proved his case in the ICTY after which he was murdered to cover up the crimes of the international community and it's proxies including the KLA.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Jugoslavia: You are quite right, the Bosniaks wanted a state where they would be free from the control of Belgrade and the diktats of Milosevic. That does not equate however to an Islamic state or to sharia law.

The Bosnian Serbs never wanted to be part of a separate B&H and neither did the Bosnian Croats. In fact, some so called "Bosnian Muslims" wanted to remain in a federated Yugoslavia, aka Fikret Abdic. I beg to differ, Sharia law is exactly the direction Sarajevo wants to go.

rote

pre 8 godina

Arn.Sweden.

Either you answer my 9 questions about Sweden or you tell us that you are not a Swede. Then you may ask me to educate you about Sweden about Islam or other things that I can help. If you do not confess please leave me alone and talk to yourself.

rote

pre 8 godina

ned taylor : “the violent nature of the Old Testament.”

Ned if you can find “А Child`s History of England” by Charles Dickens on page 93 you will enjoy his story about how the Bible was written in Britain. This book wasn’t expected to be published as it was written for his children only, and he describes the events that had happened some 150 years before him. As a member of the elite he tells of many interesting things. If you fail to read the book I’ll summarize the episode for you. He writes about the 4 evangelists sitting in a London jail. Guess what were their names …

Concerning the Old Testament it was officially introduced in Russia only after the Oldenburgs (sister branch to the Hannover Dynasty to which the Windsor belong) seized Russia. In Russia the Oldenburgs used Romanov trade mark. Yet the first attempt to introduce the Old testament failed in 1826 when Tsar Nicolas I cried that he will never let this “Jewish Bible” become part of the Holy Writ. So he Ordered to burn all the books. Next attempt was made after he died in 1876 but the moved step by step without advertising. So the Russian church accepted it in 1913 before the WW1 only …

I have my own reasons to trust in God and I have my own resons to doubt many religious books in Christianity and Islam. Others I have no idea.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Mike C: This whole Alija Izetbegovic thing is old news and completely irrelevant. I have met no-one, and I mean NO-ONE, in BiH who has ever mentioned the feasibility or desirability of anything other than a democracy. Secondly, I am not trying to fool anyone, I am British, always have been and always will be. I use a pseudonym because of the nature of my previous employment. I am currently looking out of the window of my very pleasant home near Bournemouth in England, albeit it's raining. Trying to imply that I must be somehow inherently biased if I hold a view that is different from your own is arrogance of the highest order. It is possible to be impartial in these matters and to make informed comments based on evidence and facts. Clearly my views are by definition subjective. I note that you did not address the point I made about the violent nature of the Old Testament. Is this because you need time to read it or because you are aware of the truth of what I said and it doesn't fit your narrative?

MikeC

pre 8 godina

Jugoslavia: You are quite right, the Bosniaks wanted a state where they would be free from the control of Belgrade and the diktats of Milosevic. That does not equate however to an Islamic state or to sharia law. A state where more people are (very nominally) bla bla bla bla

ned Taylor

Who do you Think you are fooling? Alija wanted to create an islamic state in Bosnia. Why dont read: Alija Izetbegovic the islamic declaration and you'll see what his plan was for Bosnia. Besides your not fooling anyone with your western name. We all know your no "Ned". More likely a Emir och Hasim.

MikeC

pre 8 godina

Mike C: Read the whole of the Old Testament and then tell me what you think about Christianity as a peaceful religion.

ned Taylor

I have yet to hear about Christians behedings and suicidebombings or forced marriages with minors. Islam is the religion of evil. Just look at the facts. That's all you have to do.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 8 godina

More erroneous opinnions by Rote !.

I Quote -

"I don’t consider those bastards as Muslims. They even try to improve Quran"!.

Comment -

The Quran is written in Old Arabic and is somtimes very difficult to Understand - therefore the improvement.

I learnt this from a Teacher in Islamic History,
at the University of Damaskus,
he is now a refugee in Sweden.

But this Rote thinks He knows better Than the Muslims thenmselves and who is a Muslim.

What a selfdeceiver.

All Muslims who think Islam is Peacefull is the so called Moderate Muslims,
they should be callaed USEFULL IDIOTS instead,
they are Deceived.

Arn.Sweden.

rote

pre 8 godina

Arn.Sweden

Forget my name as you know nothing about Sweden to say nothing of the rest. If you are a Swede I am the Indian John … Don’t drink much.


MikeC : Rote Islam is anything but a peaceful religion.

I don’t consider those bastards as Muslims. They even try to improve Quran … If you look back at the latest history all wars in the Middle East and other Muslim regions were initiated and sponsored by the Golden Billion. ISIL is close to what we call the Wahhabi/Salafists (who fought us in Chechnya) but ISIL has no rules at all. Even the Salafists would never commit those crimes. ISIL is the devil’s Dream Team and it’s silly to call them Muslims. For your information Islam means obedience while Muslims are those who obey Allah. Islam appeared in Russia as a branch in Christianity long before Bati Khan established his headquarters in Vatican. This is why for centuries Muslims prayed in Orthodox churches. This is why all Russian old churches together with the cross have also the half moon. This is why mosques older than 16 century cannot be found anywhere. This is why even the official historians call the Muslims as the former Nestorian trend in Christianity. This is why Jesus is mentioned 27 times in Quran against 4 times of Muhammed. This is why Muslims are allowed to pray in churches if Christians don’t mind ect. So we talk about different things.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Mike C: Read the whole of the Old Testament and then tell me what you think about Christianity as a peaceful religion. It's easy to pick and choose passages from other people's centuries old texts whilst ignoring your own. IS do not represent any religion, they represent themselves only. The person who shoots dead an abortion doctor does not do so in the name of religion but because they are warped, so it goes with IS and their obsession with cutting off people's heads.

Serb

pre 8 godina

I feel very sorry that someone said that Serbs are butchers of the Balkan.If you see some comments from some idiot(there are many of them in every country) who says that he is glad to see Croatian man dead, it doesn't mean that everyone think like that. It is not just stupid to write that it is dangerous too. I feel very sorry for the Croatian guy,and my condolences to his family.

Joni

pre 8 godina

I feel very - very bad for what happened to this young " guy - son - husband" - and i think that those criminals should be stopped immediately.

And i swear god, i'm really shocked from the comment of the serbs here.

Reading the comment below make me realize what kind of disturbing people you serbs are, and no surprise why you are named the butchers of Balkan.
"Hate" is and uncontrolled feeling - and yes there are some serb which i would like to see "maybe" even dead - like Mladic for example - but i will never - never would like to see a simple innocent human - the son of someone, one father, one husband - dead - even if he is a serb.

My condolences! A young innocent guy 31 years old died! To pitifully!

MikeC

pre 8 godina

Rote

Islam is anything but a peaceful religion. So many terrorist attacks every day around the world and islamic organisations like Boko Haram, ISIS, Al Qaida etc and you say islam is peace and understanding? In what islamic country is there freedom for non muslims? And if you studied the koran you should know that IS are followers of the chapter which mentiones abrogation. Which means that everything written in the koran up until then should be abrogated with the new verse which in conclusion means getting rid of non-muslims and creating Allahs kingdom on earth. In other words IS represent true islam. And if you muslims were the majority in Europe you would all be members of IS.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 8 godina

I Quote -

If you fail to answer again feel free to ask me. Otherwise I can see no point talking about far away countries and events with a man who does not know the history of his own state.
(rote, 12 August 2015 23:23)

Comment - so bee it - draw your own conclusions !.

Arn.Sweden

Italian Serbophile

pre 8 godina

Another staged execution.
Despite the nice theatre, it's incredible that many still think that Daesh was born autonomously. At least it's what happen in subnormal Western countries like Italy: those bedouins started in Iraq, after the "liberation" war who removed Saddam Hussein. Then IS developed itself in Syria, where West was financing and supporting criminals who were against Assad; then to Lybia, where West removed Gheddafi and created what's under our eyes today. "Our" allies are criminal countries like UAE, Qatar, Saudi Arabia who finance Jihad or Turkey who throws bombs on the Kurds, not on Daesh.
With the Caliphate it's happening the same thing that happened in Yugoslavia: meaningless Evils like Croatia, K-albanians, extreme islamist bosniaks were financed and armed by USA, UK, EU. Wars were started. West chose to stand with nazi countries like Croatia or barbaric terrorists like UCK cowards. Today, while Islamic State grows, West is still on the wrong site supporting the nazi-corrupted illegal government in Kiev. Standing with Serbia, with Novorossia, with Syria's legitimate government means standing with morality and standing against criminals like Daesh, KLA, Azov Battalion, Grabar-Kitarovic, Al Nusra, Saudi Arabia, Poroshenko, Thaci...

Wee Kelpie

pre 8 godina

There's a sad bunch of individuals who contribute to this site and use every opportunity to continue their vile rhetoric.
A guy as been killed. Regardless of persuasion he and his family need to be respected.
Some of you by your behaviour are no worse than the perpetrators.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

What a horrible way to die. I hope that at the very least they gave this man enough sedatives to ease the terror.
This is in no way to say that this poor man deserved it but you couldn't pay me enough to go over there for any reason. It's far too dangerous. Europeans over there really should consider getting out.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Jugoslavia: You are quite right, the Bosniaks wanted a state where they would be free from the control of Belgrade and the diktats of Milosevic. That does not equate however to an Islamic state or to sharia law. A state where more people are (very nominally) of the Muslim faith than any other, ie Bosnia, is not the same as an Islamic state, ie Pakistan. I fail to see the point you are making. Bosnian Muslims do not want an Islamic state, they want a country where they are free to dress how they like, drink what they want and shag whoever they please whenever they please, just like Serbs and Croats in their respective countries. There are far more potential terrorists in the UK than in any Balkan country.

BW, Texas

pre 8 godina

Please take a moment of silence and put yourselves in the place of that innocent young Croatian father of two, and imagine what he and his family and loved ones went through during this deliberately prolonged, torturous ordeal of terror, while hoping and praying for the young man's safe return to his loved ones. And then write your comment.

With sympathy,

Billy Why

rote

pre 8 godina

Arn.Sweden.

“About Rotes false opinion about Islam !. “

So you teach us about Islam, the Bible, Gog/Magog ect. but you don’t know a shit about the history of your own country. You disappeared for 2 days to avoid answering my below questions.

1/ Who were the first six Swedish kings from Carl-I to Carl VI.
2/ Why the burial services after Carl XI were served in Russian and in accordance with the Orthodox Church.
3/ How could his son Carl XII control half Europe with population 30 times exceeding the Swedish one.
4/ Why the Russian Cossacks always preferred Carl to Peter the Great.
5/ Who and when gave numbers to the Swedish kings and what word “Carl” in fact meant.
6/ Why Carl XIII passed the state power not to his own sons but to an unknown French advocate’s son Bernadotte who wasn’t even a noble.
7/ Why the Swedish language was formed so late (in 19-20 centuries) and what language was common there before that.
8/ What word Sweden means.
9/ Why Sweden became “neutral” after Poltava Battle.

If you fail to answer again feel free to ask me. Otherwise I can see no point talking about far away countries and events with a man who does not know the history of his own state.

ida

pre 8 godina

"Another faked beheading for the lemmings, now a Croatian joins in the theater………"

Yes, it does look fake and staged to me. Russian hackers got into John McCain's computer a few weeks ago and there was video of the staging of one of these false be-headings. They are done in studio with a "green screen" background of a desert moonscape. The lighting/shadows have sometimes shown there is more than one light sources - like in the two oriental men "executed" there is a strong light source to both the left and right making the shadows go to the opposite direction on both their necks.

Croatia sent many dozens of planeloads of weapons to the rebels in Syria. The so-called "moderate" rebels have been cutting off heads - and not just the staged ones. They have also cooperated and given weapons to ISIS at times or gone to their side.
The real victims of beheading are the Syrian soldiers and the Syrian civilians.
The western foreign spies and operatives, working there undercover as "humanitarians" and the like are actually helping ISIS and/or other groups fighting the legitimate Syrian army.
The west's main goal is to overthrow the government and they will destroy the country to attempt to get their way.

marKo

pre 8 godina

May his memory be eternal. Lord have mercy.

I hope it is not inappropriate to make a political statement at such a time, but this never could have happened if outsiders didn't send arms to criminal gangs to overthrow Assad. Nor would ISIS have risen up in Iraq if iraq was not destroyed 4 times through war, bombing and sanctions, invasion, and occupation.
Besides the killers who did this, their sponsors in Nato and some oil selling nations have more innocent blood on their hands.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 8 godina

About Rotes false opinion about Islam !.

http://www.islam-watch.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=945:categories-of-islamic-murder&catid=138:jake-neuman&Itemid=58

Arn.Sweden.

jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Jugoslavia: In my extensive travels, including 10 years in Bosnia, I don't think I have seen a less extreme bunch of Muslims than the Bosniaks. The idea that any form of Islamic state or sharia law will come to pass in BiH is a fallacy. The public don't want it, the politicians don't want it and the international community won't allow it. Why would Izetbegovic pass control to the Reis??
(ned taylor, 12 August 2015 18:06)

Maybe you should look a little closer, its in your own answer. Bosniaks are all Bosnians whether Serb or Croat or for lack of better word "Bosnian Muslims" which is a Tito creation.

In all my travels across Europe no other nation has allowed the minority Muslim nation to carve out a their own state, the international community did allow it.

Is there such as thing as a "Prussian/Moravian/Bavarian Muslim"state in Germany from the large Turkish Minority?

Marcus

pre 8 godina

How quickly squabbling over what happened in the 1990s becomes less relevant everyday in this new era. We must stand with our neighbors on this one. Because guess who the next target is...RIP.

The Driver

pre 8 godina

Another faked beheading for the lemmings, now a Croatian joins in the theater……….
Next on all my beheadings: Omar the executioner falls in love with one of his severed heads…….
The soap opera continues!

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

The innocent always suffer! The Earth so beautiful but degenerate and evil people make the world such a cold and cruel place! Evil out there just waiting to strike out, Satan never rests, the taste for innocent blood so severe! I think most of us Serbians strongly condemn this terrible act of violence against humanity, we are all children of ONE God! I hope the family parents, wife and the mans poor children survive this terror and horror, God be with them all in this very somber moment!!!

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Jugoslavia: In my extensive travels, including 10 years in Bosnia, I don't think I have seen a less extreme bunch of Muslims than the Bosniaks. The idea that any form of Islamic state or sharia law will come to pass in BiH is a fallacy. The public don't want it, the politicians don't want it and the international community won't allow it. Why would Izetbegovic pass control to the Reis??

rote

pre 8 godina

In the upper side of the flag it is written LA ILAHI UL ALAH (there’s no God other than Allah) and below in the circle they wrote 3 words in a strange composition ALLA – RASUL- MOHAMMAD (Allah – prophet- Mohammad) … Words are taken from the first Sura and it must be a sin that they destroyed the original phrase “La illahi ul Alla wa Mohammad ur-rasul ul Allah” . Who gave them the right to improve the supposed direct words of Allah ? And I also wonder where’s the logical connection with this poor Croat ? The answer is TOURISM IN EGYPT … Very sad indeed.

So sad, too bad

pre 8 godina

Nah don't be like that. This is tragic, no matter what nationality the person is. And besides, we aren't sure if the man was an Ustasha or a human being. I would have much rather seen Mirko Perkovic there instead.
(Ari Gold, 12 August 2015 16:31)

True!
And yes, it would have been nice to test Perkovic's vocal skills whilst being beheaded.
Thats a concert id pay to see.

who cares

pre 8 godina

Such a pity!
Marko Perkovic aka Thompson should have organized a group of heroic ustashi warriors to go over to rescue him?
Oh well, maybe next time?
(So sad, too bad, 12 August 2015 16:10)


yea sure they would lololl Marko Perkovic aka Thompson all he has is a big mouth and nothing else he hid when the war was on and what ustashas they ran away like bunny rabbits from a small Serb rebel group until the world came in to save the croats.....60,000 serb rebels vs 300,000 croats lololol....your celebrations are for the west and not croat fighters......even these isis captured Serbs and let them go...... because they (serbs) don't care for America....

Ron burgundy

pre 8 godina

I believe Azir claimed he'd rather be under Isis authority rather than chetnik...well then...here is another modern day example of that rule, hope you can make your way down there azir.

rote

pre 8 godina

It’s a great pity of course … Yet we must remember that these people have little to do with Islam. They could quite call themselves Barsa Fans or the Adventists of the Day-7 or anything else. Near my homeplace ЖИРИНОВСКИЙ is written on a wall but I know it's not him. So no matter what they call themselves they are not Muslims and I don't think that Muslims will have a special Muslim Hell. I’ve twice read Quran and remember that any murder is a crime. Sinner will enter Paradise no sooner than a camel will enter a needle hole ... But these evils cry Allah Akbar and kill Muslims even more than any other people. Very sad story … RIP …

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

Such a pity!
Marko Perkovic aka Thompson should have organized a group of heroic ustashi warriors to go over to rescue him?
Oh well, maybe next time?
(So sad, too bad, 12 August 2015 16:10)

Nah don't be like that. This is tragic, no matter what nationality the person is. And besides, we aren't sure if the man was an Ustasha or a human being. I would have much rather seen Mirko Perkovic there instead.

So sad, too bad

pre 8 godina

Such a pity!
Marko Perkovic aka Thompson should have organized a group of heroic ustashi warriors to go over to rescue him?
Oh well, maybe next time?

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

It boggles the mind how the Croatian government goes to bed with Islamic extremists. Let's not kid ourselves, Bazir Izetbegovic is very similar in his views to Alija Izetbegovic who is trying to take control and eventually turn Bosnia and Herzegovina into a Islamic state with Sharia law. Its no secret that in the Krajina frontier the Serbs were brought in by the Austrian King Ferdinand to shield Western Europe from the Turkish and Ottoman Cancer. In present day Europe , its too late as many European countries have allowed the Cancer to spread. In Bosnia/Herzegovina so called Bosnian Muslims are either converted Serbs or Croats who become the worse extremists.

It is an utter disgrace that IS is allowed to function as an organization and initially fund by , you guessed it, the United States of America. The Mujahadeen was also funded by the US and made it all the way to the former Yugoslavia as mercenaries can carrying out beheadings of Serbian soldiers. There is no Geneva convention in dealing with these thugs including the Srebrenica Hoax.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

Absolutely disgusting. These people masquerade as religious warriors when what they really are is kidnappers and criminals. They'd have let him go had they received a ransom form him. Can't begin to imagine the sorrow his family must be going through. RIP

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

Such a pity!
Marko Perkovic aka Thompson should have organized a group of heroic ustashi warriors to go over to rescue him?
Oh well, maybe next time?
(So sad, too bad, 12 August 2015 16:10)

Nah don't be like that. This is tragic, no matter what nationality the person is. And besides, we aren't sure if the man was an Ustasha or a human being. I would have much rather seen Mirko Perkovic there instead.

So sad, too bad

pre 8 godina

Such a pity!
Marko Perkovic aka Thompson should have organized a group of heroic ustashi warriors to go over to rescue him?
Oh well, maybe next time?

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

It boggles the mind how the Croatian government goes to bed with Islamic extremists. Let's not kid ourselves, Bazir Izetbegovic is very similar in his views to Alija Izetbegovic who is trying to take control and eventually turn Bosnia and Herzegovina into a Islamic state with Sharia law. Its no secret that in the Krajina frontier the Serbs were brought in by the Austrian King Ferdinand to shield Western Europe from the Turkish and Ottoman Cancer. In present day Europe , its too late as many European countries have allowed the Cancer to spread. In Bosnia/Herzegovina so called Bosnian Muslims are either converted Serbs or Croats who become the worse extremists.

It is an utter disgrace that IS is allowed to function as an organization and initially fund by , you guessed it, the United States of America. The Mujahadeen was also funded by the US and made it all the way to the former Yugoslavia as mercenaries can carrying out beheadings of Serbian soldiers. There is no Geneva convention in dealing with these thugs including the Srebrenica Hoax.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

Absolutely disgusting. These people masquerade as religious warriors when what they really are is kidnappers and criminals. They'd have let him go had they received a ransom form him. Can't begin to imagine the sorrow his family must be going through. RIP

Ron burgundy

pre 8 godina

I believe Azir claimed he'd rather be under Isis authority rather than chetnik...well then...here is another modern day example of that rule, hope you can make your way down there azir.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

The innocent always suffer! The Earth so beautiful but degenerate and evil people make the world such a cold and cruel place! Evil out there just waiting to strike out, Satan never rests, the taste for innocent blood so severe! I think most of us Serbians strongly condemn this terrible act of violence against humanity, we are all children of ONE God! I hope the family parents, wife and the mans poor children survive this terror and horror, God be with them all in this very somber moment!!!

Marcus

pre 8 godina

How quickly squabbling over what happened in the 1990s becomes less relevant everyday in this new era. We must stand with our neighbors on this one. Because guess who the next target is...RIP.

So sad, too bad

pre 8 godina

Nah don't be like that. This is tragic, no matter what nationality the person is. And besides, we aren't sure if the man was an Ustasha or a human being. I would have much rather seen Mirko Perkovic there instead.
(Ari Gold, 12 August 2015 16:31)

True!
And yes, it would have been nice to test Perkovic's vocal skills whilst being beheaded.
Thats a concert id pay to see.

marKo

pre 8 godina

May his memory be eternal. Lord have mercy.

I hope it is not inappropriate to make a political statement at such a time, but this never could have happened if outsiders didn't send arms to criminal gangs to overthrow Assad. Nor would ISIS have risen up in Iraq if iraq was not destroyed 4 times through war, bombing and sanctions, invasion, and occupation.
Besides the killers who did this, their sponsors in Nato and some oil selling nations have more innocent blood on their hands.

jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Jugoslavia: In my extensive travels, including 10 years in Bosnia, I don't think I have seen a less extreme bunch of Muslims than the Bosniaks. The idea that any form of Islamic state or sharia law will come to pass in BiH is a fallacy. The public don't want it, the politicians don't want it and the international community won't allow it. Why would Izetbegovic pass control to the Reis??
(ned taylor, 12 August 2015 18:06)

Maybe you should look a little closer, its in your own answer. Bosniaks are all Bosnians whether Serb or Croat or for lack of better word "Bosnian Muslims" which is a Tito creation.

In all my travels across Europe no other nation has allowed the minority Muslim nation to carve out a their own state, the international community did allow it.

Is there such as thing as a "Prussian/Moravian/Bavarian Muslim"state in Germany from the large Turkish Minority?

BW, Texas

pre 8 godina

Please take a moment of silence and put yourselves in the place of that innocent young Croatian father of two, and imagine what he and his family and loved ones went through during this deliberately prolonged, torturous ordeal of terror, while hoping and praying for the young man's safe return to his loved ones. And then write your comment.

With sympathy,

Billy Why

rote

pre 8 godina

In the upper side of the flag it is written LA ILAHI UL ALAH (there’s no God other than Allah) and below in the circle they wrote 3 words in a strange composition ALLA – RASUL- MOHAMMAD (Allah – prophet- Mohammad) … Words are taken from the first Sura and it must be a sin that they destroyed the original phrase “La illahi ul Alla wa Mohammad ur-rasul ul Allah” . Who gave them the right to improve the supposed direct words of Allah ? And I also wonder where’s the logical connection with this poor Croat ? The answer is TOURISM IN EGYPT … Very sad indeed.

Serb

pre 8 godina

I feel very sorry that someone said that Serbs are butchers of the Balkan.If you see some comments from some idiot(there are many of them in every country) who says that he is glad to see Croatian man dead, it doesn't mean that everyone think like that. It is not just stupid to write that it is dangerous too. I feel very sorry for the Croatian guy,and my condolences to his family.

who cares

pre 8 godina

Such a pity!
Marko Perkovic aka Thompson should have organized a group of heroic ustashi warriors to go over to rescue him?
Oh well, maybe next time?
(So sad, too bad, 12 August 2015 16:10)


yea sure they would lololl Marko Perkovic aka Thompson all he has is a big mouth and nothing else he hid when the war was on and what ustashas they ran away like bunny rabbits from a small Serb rebel group until the world came in to save the croats.....60,000 serb rebels vs 300,000 croats lololol....your celebrations are for the west and not croat fighters......even these isis captured Serbs and let them go...... because they (serbs) don't care for America....

rote

pre 8 godina

It’s a great pity of course … Yet we must remember that these people have little to do with Islam. They could quite call themselves Barsa Fans or the Adventists of the Day-7 or anything else. Near my homeplace ЖИРИНОВСКИЙ is written on a wall but I know it's not him. So no matter what they call themselves they are not Muslims and I don't think that Muslims will have a special Muslim Hell. I’ve twice read Quran and remember that any murder is a crime. Sinner will enter Paradise no sooner than a camel will enter a needle hole ... But these evils cry Allah Akbar and kill Muslims even more than any other people. Very sad story … RIP …

Joni

pre 8 godina

I feel very - very bad for what happened to this young " guy - son - husband" - and i think that those criminals should be stopped immediately.

And i swear god, i'm really shocked from the comment of the serbs here.

Reading the comment below make me realize what kind of disturbing people you serbs are, and no surprise why you are named the butchers of Balkan.
"Hate" is and uncontrolled feeling - and yes there are some serb which i would like to see "maybe" even dead - like Mladic for example - but i will never - never would like to see a simple innocent human - the son of someone, one father, one husband - dead - even if he is a serb.

My condolences! A young innocent guy 31 years old died! To pitifully!

Peggy

pre 8 godina

I feel very sorry that someone said that Serbs are butchers of the Balkan.If you see some comments from some idiot(there are many of them in every country) who says that he is glad to see Croatian man dead, it doesn't mean that everyone think like that. It is not just stupid to write that it is dangerous too. I feel very sorry for the Croatian guy,and my condolences to his family.
(Serb, 13 August 2015 11:01
=================================
Don't worry about what these simpletons think. They complain no matter what we do.
I feel bad for anyone who has to go through this horror and my comment in no way showed any happiness about it but guess what, I still got three negative ticks. I'm not after any acknowledgements either way but just wanted to point out that no matter what we do we are still wrong in their eyes.
They actually want us to behave like them so then they would have something to hang on us.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Jugoslavia: In my extensive travels, including 10 years in Bosnia, I don't think I have seen a less extreme bunch of Muslims than the Bosniaks. The idea that any form of Islamic state or sharia law will come to pass in BiH is a fallacy. The public don't want it, the politicians don't want it and the international community won't allow it. Why would Izetbegovic pass control to the Reis??

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Mike C: Thousands of Christian beheadings took place during the crusades. The point is that those perpetrating these atrocities are not representative of Islam in any sense. I'm no expert on the Koran (even though you have me down as a Muslim :-0) but I would be surprised if suicide bombings are explicitly mentioned.

ida

pre 8 godina

"Another faked beheading for the lemmings, now a Croatian joins in the theater………"

Yes, it does look fake and staged to me. Russian hackers got into John McCain's computer a few weeks ago and there was video of the staging of one of these false be-headings. They are done in studio with a "green screen" background of a desert moonscape. The lighting/shadows have sometimes shown there is more than one light sources - like in the two oriental men "executed" there is a strong light source to both the left and right making the shadows go to the opposite direction on both their necks.

Croatia sent many dozens of planeloads of weapons to the rebels in Syria. The so-called "moderate" rebels have been cutting off heads - and not just the staged ones. They have also cooperated and given weapons to ISIS at times or gone to their side.
The real victims of beheading are the Syrian soldiers and the Syrian civilians.
The western foreign spies and operatives, working there undercover as "humanitarians" and the like are actually helping ISIS and/or other groups fighting the legitimate Syrian army.
The west's main goal is to overthrow the government and they will destroy the country to attempt to get their way.

rote

pre 8 godina

Arn.Sweden.

“About Rotes false opinion about Islam !. “

So you teach us about Islam, the Bible, Gog/Magog ect. but you don’t know a shit about the history of your own country. You disappeared for 2 days to avoid answering my below questions.

1/ Who were the first six Swedish kings from Carl-I to Carl VI.
2/ Why the burial services after Carl XI were served in Russian and in accordance with the Orthodox Church.
3/ How could his son Carl XII control half Europe with population 30 times exceeding the Swedish one.
4/ Why the Russian Cossacks always preferred Carl to Peter the Great.
5/ Who and when gave numbers to the Swedish kings and what word “Carl” in fact meant.
6/ Why Carl XIII passed the state power not to his own sons but to an unknown French advocate’s son Bernadotte who wasn’t even a noble.
7/ Why the Swedish language was formed so late (in 19-20 centuries) and what language was common there before that.
8/ What word Sweden means.
9/ Why Sweden became “neutral” after Poltava Battle.

If you fail to answer again feel free to ask me. Otherwise I can see no point talking about far away countries and events with a man who does not know the history of his own state.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Mike C: This whole Alija Izetbegovic thing is old news and completely irrelevant. I have met no-one, and I mean NO-ONE, in BiH who has ever mentioned the feasibility or desirability of anything other than a democracy. Secondly, I am not trying to fool anyone, I am British, always have been and always will be. I use a pseudonym because of the nature of my previous employment. I am currently looking out of the window of my very pleasant home near Bournemouth in England, albeit it's raining. Trying to imply that I must be somehow inherently biased if I hold a view that is different from your own is arrogance of the highest order. It is possible to be impartial in these matters and to make informed comments based on evidence and facts. Clearly my views are by definition subjective. I note that you did not address the point I made about the violent nature of the Old Testament. Is this because you need time to read it or because you are aware of the truth of what I said and it doesn't fit your narrative?

rote

pre 8 godina

ned taylor : “the violent nature of the Old Testament.”

Ned if you can find “А Child`s History of England” by Charles Dickens on page 93 you will enjoy his story about how the Bible was written in Britain. This book wasn’t expected to be published as it was written for his children only, and he describes the events that had happened some 150 years before him. As a member of the elite he tells of many interesting things. If you fail to read the book I’ll summarize the episode for you. He writes about the 4 evangelists sitting in a London jail. Guess what were their names …

Concerning the Old Testament it was officially introduced in Russia only after the Oldenburgs (sister branch to the Hannover Dynasty to which the Windsor belong) seized Russia. In Russia the Oldenburgs used Romanov trade mark. Yet the first attempt to introduce the Old testament failed in 1826 when Tsar Nicolas I cried that he will never let this “Jewish Bible” become part of the Holy Writ. So he Ordered to burn all the books. Next attempt was made after he died in 1876 but the moved step by step without advertising. So the Russian church accepted it in 1913 before the WW1 only …

I have my own reasons to trust in God and I have my own resons to doubt many religious books in Christianity and Islam. Others I have no idea.

rote

pre 8 godina

Arn.Sweden.

Either you answer my 9 questions about Sweden or you tell us that you are not a Swede. Then you may ask me to educate you about Sweden about Islam or other things that I can help. If you do not confess please leave me alone and talk to yourself.

speechless

pre 8 godina

. Milosevic proved his case in the ICTY after which he was murdered to cover up the crimes of the international community and it's proxies including the KLA.
(jugoslavija, 13 August 2015 17:16)
Talk about historically inaccurate and with racist overtones!!!

rote

pre 8 godina

Arn.Sweden

Forget my name as you know nothing about Sweden to say nothing of the rest. If you are a Swede I am the Indian John … Don’t drink much.


MikeC : Rote Islam is anything but a peaceful religion.

I don’t consider those bastards as Muslims. They even try to improve Quran … If you look back at the latest history all wars in the Middle East and other Muslim regions were initiated and sponsored by the Golden Billion. ISIL is close to what we call the Wahhabi/Salafists (who fought us in Chechnya) but ISIL has no rules at all. Even the Salafists would never commit those crimes. ISIL is the devil’s Dream Team and it’s silly to call them Muslims. For your information Islam means obedience while Muslims are those who obey Allah. Islam appeared in Russia as a branch in Christianity long before Bati Khan established his headquarters in Vatican. This is why for centuries Muslims prayed in Orthodox churches. This is why all Russian old churches together with the cross have also the half moon. This is why mosques older than 16 century cannot be found anywhere. This is why even the official historians call the Muslims as the former Nestorian trend in Christianity. This is why Jesus is mentioned 27 times in Quran against 4 times of Muhammed. This is why Muslims are allowed to pray in churches if Christians don’t mind ect. So we talk about different things.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Mike C: Read the whole of the Old Testament and then tell me what you think about Christianity as a peaceful religion. It's easy to pick and choose passages from other people's centuries old texts whilst ignoring your own. IS do not represent any religion, they represent themselves only. The person who shoots dead an abortion doctor does not do so in the name of religion but because they are warped, so it goes with IS and their obsession with cutting off people's heads.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 8 godina

More erroneous opinnions by Rote !.

I Quote -

"I don’t consider those bastards as Muslims. They even try to improve Quran"!.

Comment -

The Quran is written in Old Arabic and is somtimes very difficult to Understand - therefore the improvement.

I learnt this from a Teacher in Islamic History,
at the University of Damaskus,
he is now a refugee in Sweden.

But this Rote thinks He knows better Than the Muslims thenmselves and who is a Muslim.

What a selfdeceiver.

All Muslims who think Islam is Peacefull is the so called Moderate Muslims,
they should be callaed USEFULL IDIOTS instead,
they are Deceived.

Arn.Sweden.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Jugoslavia: You are quite right, the Bosniaks wanted a state where they would be free from the control of Belgrade and the diktats of Milosevic. That does not equate however to an Islamic state or to sharia law.

The Bosnian Serbs never wanted to be part of a separate B&H and neither did the Bosnian Croats. In fact, some so called "Bosnian Muslims" wanted to remain in a federated Yugoslavia, aka Fikret Abdic. I beg to differ, Sharia law is exactly the direction Sarajevo wants to go.

jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Reading the comment below make me realize what kind of disturbing people you serbs are, and no surprise why you are named the butchers of Balkan.
"Hate"
(Joni, 13 August 2015 09:23)

I am not condoning any comments made of the death of this Croatian, in fact, this is not staged, he was a surveyor with no security and he was picked off from the road by ISIL.

Your comments are historically inaccurate with obvious racist overtones. The so called "Butcher of the Balkans" is Andrija Artukovic who was under the Croatian Nazi Ustashe Government of Ante Pavelic in 1941-1945. Milosevic proved his case in the ICTY after which he was murdered to cover up the crimes of the international community and it's proxies including the KLA.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Jugoslavia: When you say 'Sarajevo' who do you mean? Certainly you cannot mean the populace because they have no interest at all in this. Are there one or two senior clerics who want this? Maybe. I want many things but that doesn't mean they are going to happen. Bosnian politicians want to join the EU (and fill their pockets with other people's money) and won't be doing this with Sharia Law. At least you haven't yet accused me of pretending to be British like Mike C. I would very much like to be any number of other nationalities but don't have that option.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Mike C: Thousands of Christian beheadings took place during the crusades. The point is that those perpetrating these atrocities are not representative of Islam in any sense. I'm no expert on the Koran (even though you have me down as a Muslim :-0) but I would be surprised if suicide bombings are explicitly mentioned.
(ned taylor, 13 August 2015 20:20
=============================
You said it yourself. You are no expert on the Koran so you really can't say that this is not representative if Islam. According to an expert on Koran, Robert Spencer, this is exactly what Muslims are commanded to do. There are verses in the Koran which specifically deal with this so if you are a devout Muslim you are told to go and kill the unbelievers, take their women as slaves etc. etc.
Maybe you should go to Robert's site and read what exactly is going on around the world and how so many Imams are preaching in Mosques for Jihad. Now I think those Imams are very familiar with the Koran and if they say that's the way to go then you can't argue with it. Just because our government and our media tells us that Islam is a religion of peace and this is not Islamic doesn't mean that they are right. Listen to what what experts on the Koran say.

Wee Kelpie

pre 8 godina

There's a sad bunch of individuals who contribute to this site and use every opportunity to continue their vile rhetoric.
A guy as been killed. Regardless of persuasion he and his family need to be respected.
Some of you by your behaviour are no worse than the perpetrators.

MikeC

pre 8 godina

Rote

Islam is anything but a peaceful religion. So many terrorist attacks every day around the world and islamic organisations like Boko Haram, ISIS, Al Qaida etc and you say islam is peace and understanding? In what islamic country is there freedom for non muslims? And if you studied the koran you should know that IS are followers of the chapter which mentiones abrogation. Which means that everything written in the koran up until then should be abrogated with the new verse which in conclusion means getting rid of non-muslims and creating Allahs kingdom on earth. In other words IS represent true islam. And if you muslims were the majority in Europe you would all be members of IS.

MikeC

pre 8 godina

Jugoslavia: You are quite right, the Bosniaks wanted a state where they would be free from the control of Belgrade and the diktats of Milosevic. That does not equate however to an Islamic state or to sharia law. A state where more people are (very nominally) bla bla bla bla

ned Taylor

Who do you Think you are fooling? Alija wanted to create an islamic state in Bosnia. Why dont read: Alija Izetbegovic the islamic declaration and you'll see what his plan was for Bosnia. Besides your not fooling anyone with your western name. We all know your no "Ned". More likely a Emir och Hasim.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

I can't believe I am about to write this, but yes you are right Peggy, taking the Koran literally, will mean that one has to kill people. Taking the Bible literally, will also mean that one has to kill people. I think it would really help humanity if people stopped taking their morals from those two pieces of garbage and used common sense. Face it the Bible and the Koran are all about obedience to authority, only the authority in those books doesn't answer to anyone. Funny thing about the Koran is that it mentions Jesus a lot more than it does Mohammed. It also agrees with a lot of the bible, on Noah, Moses and a lot of other nonsense. It has only added another character, to tell simple humans how they must not sway from worshipping the dear leader, for his self esteem is really important. You don't have to look to far to see where North Korea gets his ideology from

The Driver

pre 8 godina

Another faked beheading for the lemmings, now a Croatian joins in the theater……….
Next on all my beheadings: Omar the executioner falls in love with one of his severed heads…….
The soap opera continues!

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Jugoslavia: You are quite right, the Bosniaks wanted a state where they would be free from the control of Belgrade and the diktats of Milosevic. That does not equate however to an Islamic state or to sharia law. A state where more people are (very nominally) of the Muslim faith than any other, ie Bosnia, is not the same as an Islamic state, ie Pakistan. I fail to see the point you are making. Bosnian Muslims do not want an Islamic state, they want a country where they are free to dress how they like, drink what they want and shag whoever they please whenever they please, just like Serbs and Croats in their respective countries. There are far more potential terrorists in the UK than in any Balkan country.

Italian Serbophile

pre 8 godina

Another staged execution.
Despite the nice theatre, it's incredible that many still think that Daesh was born autonomously. At least it's what happen in subnormal Western countries like Italy: those bedouins started in Iraq, after the "liberation" war who removed Saddam Hussein. Then IS developed itself in Syria, where West was financing and supporting criminals who were against Assad; then to Lybia, where West removed Gheddafi and created what's under our eyes today. "Our" allies are criminal countries like UAE, Qatar, Saudi Arabia who finance Jihad or Turkey who throws bombs on the Kurds, not on Daesh.
With the Caliphate it's happening the same thing that happened in Yugoslavia: meaningless Evils like Croatia, K-albanians, extreme islamist bosniaks were financed and armed by USA, UK, EU. Wars were started. West chose to stand with nazi countries like Croatia or barbaric terrorists like UCK cowards. Today, while Islamic State grows, West is still on the wrong site supporting the nazi-corrupted illegal government in Kiev. Standing with Serbia, with Novorossia, with Syria's legitimate government means standing with morality and standing against criminals like Daesh, KLA, Azov Battalion, Grabar-Kitarovic, Al Nusra, Saudi Arabia, Poroshenko, Thaci...

Arn.Sweden.

pre 8 godina

I Quote -

If you fail to answer again feel free to ask me. Otherwise I can see no point talking about far away countries and events with a man who does not know the history of his own state.
(rote, 12 August 2015 23:23)

Comment - so bee it - draw your own conclusions !.

Arn.Sweden

MikeC

pre 8 godina

Mike C: Read the whole of the Old Testament and then tell me what you think about Christianity as a peaceful religion.

ned Taylor

I have yet to hear about Christians behedings and suicidebombings or forced marriages with minors. Islam is the religion of evil. Just look at the facts. That's all you have to do.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

What a horrible way to die. I hope that at the very least they gave this man enough sedatives to ease the terror.
This is in no way to say that this poor man deserved it but you couldn't pay me enough to go over there for any reason. It's far too dangerous. Europeans over there really should consider getting out.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 8 godina

About Rotes false opinion about Islam !.

http://www.islam-watch.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=945:categories-of-islamic-murder&catid=138:jake-neuman&Itemid=58

Arn.Sweden.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

. Milosevic proved his case in the ICTY after which he was murdered to cover up the crimes of the international community and it's proxies including the KLA.
(jugoslavija, 13 August 2015 17:16)
Talk about historically inaccurate and with racist overtones!!!

Really, how so "JONI"?

The Driver

pre 8 godina

Another faked beheading for the lemmings, now a Croatian joins in the theater……….
Next on all my beheadings: Omar the executioner falls in love with one of his severed heads…….
The soap opera continues!

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

It boggles the mind how the Croatian government goes to bed with Islamic extremists. Let's not kid ourselves, Bazir Izetbegovic is very similar in his views to Alija Izetbegovic who is trying to take control and eventually turn Bosnia and Herzegovina into a Islamic state with Sharia law. Its no secret that in the Krajina frontier the Serbs were brought in by the Austrian King Ferdinand to shield Western Europe from the Turkish and Ottoman Cancer. In present day Europe , its too late as many European countries have allowed the Cancer to spread. In Bosnia/Herzegovina so called Bosnian Muslims are either converted Serbs or Croats who become the worse extremists.

It is an utter disgrace that IS is allowed to function as an organization and initially fund by , you guessed it, the United States of America. The Mujahadeen was also funded by the US and made it all the way to the former Yugoslavia as mercenaries can carrying out beheadings of Serbian soldiers. There is no Geneva convention in dealing with these thugs including the Srebrenica Hoax.

So sad, too bad

pre 8 godina

Such a pity!
Marko Perkovic aka Thompson should have organized a group of heroic ustashi warriors to go over to rescue him?
Oh well, maybe next time?

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

Such a pity!
Marko Perkovic aka Thompson should have organized a group of heroic ustashi warriors to go over to rescue him?
Oh well, maybe next time?
(So sad, too bad, 12 August 2015 16:10)

Nah don't be like that. This is tragic, no matter what nationality the person is. And besides, we aren't sure if the man was an Ustasha or a human being. I would have much rather seen Mirko Perkovic there instead.

jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Reading the comment below make me realize what kind of disturbing people you serbs are, and no surprise why you are named the butchers of Balkan.
"Hate"
(Joni, 13 August 2015 09:23)

I am not condoning any comments made of the death of this Croatian, in fact, this is not staged, he was a surveyor with no security and he was picked off from the road by ISIL.

Your comments are historically inaccurate with obvious racist overtones. The so called "Butcher of the Balkans" is Andrija Artukovic who was under the Croatian Nazi Ustashe Government of Ante Pavelic in 1941-1945. Milosevic proved his case in the ICTY after which he was murdered to cover up the crimes of the international community and it's proxies including the KLA.

who cares

pre 8 godina

Such a pity!
Marko Perkovic aka Thompson should have organized a group of heroic ustashi warriors to go over to rescue him?
Oh well, maybe next time?
(So sad, too bad, 12 August 2015 16:10)


yea sure they would lololl Marko Perkovic aka Thompson all he has is a big mouth and nothing else he hid when the war was on and what ustashas they ran away like bunny rabbits from a small Serb rebel group until the world came in to save the croats.....60,000 serb rebels vs 300,000 croats lololol....your celebrations are for the west and not croat fighters......even these isis captured Serbs and let them go...... because they (serbs) don't care for America....

So sad, too bad

pre 8 godina

Nah don't be like that. This is tragic, no matter what nationality the person is. And besides, we aren't sure if the man was an Ustasha or a human being. I would have much rather seen Mirko Perkovic there instead.
(Ari Gold, 12 August 2015 16:31)

True!
And yes, it would have been nice to test Perkovic's vocal skills whilst being beheaded.
Thats a concert id pay to see.

ida

pre 8 godina

"Another faked beheading for the lemmings, now a Croatian joins in the theater………"

Yes, it does look fake and staged to me. Russian hackers got into John McCain's computer a few weeks ago and there was video of the staging of one of these false be-headings. They are done in studio with a "green screen" background of a desert moonscape. The lighting/shadows have sometimes shown there is more than one light sources - like in the two oriental men "executed" there is a strong light source to both the left and right making the shadows go to the opposite direction on both their necks.

Croatia sent many dozens of planeloads of weapons to the rebels in Syria. The so-called "moderate" rebels have been cutting off heads - and not just the staged ones. They have also cooperated and given weapons to ISIS at times or gone to their side.
The real victims of beheading are the Syrian soldiers and the Syrian civilians.
The western foreign spies and operatives, working there undercover as "humanitarians" and the like are actually helping ISIS and/or other groups fighting the legitimate Syrian army.
The west's main goal is to overthrow the government and they will destroy the country to attempt to get their way.

Ron burgundy

pre 8 godina

I believe Azir claimed he'd rather be under Isis authority rather than chetnik...well then...here is another modern day example of that rule, hope you can make your way down there azir.

MikeC

pre 8 godina

Mike C: Read the whole of the Old Testament and then tell me what you think about Christianity as a peaceful religion.

ned Taylor

I have yet to hear about Christians behedings and suicidebombings or forced marriages with minors. Islam is the religion of evil. Just look at the facts. That's all you have to do.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Jugoslavia: In my extensive travels, including 10 years in Bosnia, I don't think I have seen a less extreme bunch of Muslims than the Bosniaks. The idea that any form of Islamic state or sharia law will come to pass in BiH is a fallacy. The public don't want it, the politicians don't want it and the international community won't allow it. Why would Izetbegovic pass control to the Reis??

Arn.Sweden.

pre 8 godina

About Rotes false opinion about Islam !.

http://www.islam-watch.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=945:categories-of-islamic-murder&catid=138:jake-neuman&Itemid=58

Arn.Sweden.

MikeC

pre 8 godina

Rote

Islam is anything but a peaceful religion. So many terrorist attacks every day around the world and islamic organisations like Boko Haram, ISIS, Al Qaida etc and you say islam is peace and understanding? In what islamic country is there freedom for non muslims? And if you studied the koran you should know that IS are followers of the chapter which mentiones abrogation. Which means that everything written in the koran up until then should be abrogated with the new verse which in conclusion means getting rid of non-muslims and creating Allahs kingdom on earth. In other words IS represent true islam. And if you muslims were the majority in Europe you would all be members of IS.

Arn.Sweden.

pre 8 godina

More erroneous opinnions by Rote !.

I Quote -

"I don’t consider those bastards as Muslims. They even try to improve Quran"!.

Comment -

The Quran is written in Old Arabic and is somtimes very difficult to Understand - therefore the improvement.

I learnt this from a Teacher in Islamic History,
at the University of Damaskus,
he is now a refugee in Sweden.

But this Rote thinks He knows better Than the Muslims thenmselves and who is a Muslim.

What a selfdeceiver.

All Muslims who think Islam is Peacefull is the so called Moderate Muslims,
they should be callaed USEFULL IDIOTS instead,
they are Deceived.

Arn.Sweden.

MikeC

pre 8 godina

Jugoslavia: You are quite right, the Bosniaks wanted a state where they would be free from the control of Belgrade and the diktats of Milosevic. That does not equate however to an Islamic state or to sharia law. A state where more people are (very nominally) bla bla bla bla

ned Taylor

Who do you Think you are fooling? Alija wanted to create an islamic state in Bosnia. Why dont read: Alija Izetbegovic the islamic declaration and you'll see what his plan was for Bosnia. Besides your not fooling anyone with your western name. We all know your no "Ned". More likely a Emir och Hasim.

speechless

pre 8 godina

. Milosevic proved his case in the ICTY after which he was murdered to cover up the crimes of the international community and it's proxies including the KLA.
(jugoslavija, 13 August 2015 17:16)
Talk about historically inaccurate and with racist overtones!!!

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

Absolutely disgusting. These people masquerade as religious warriors when what they really are is kidnappers and criminals. They'd have let him go had they received a ransom form him. Can't begin to imagine the sorrow his family must be going through. RIP

jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Jugoslavia: In my extensive travels, including 10 years in Bosnia, I don't think I have seen a less extreme bunch of Muslims than the Bosniaks. The idea that any form of Islamic state or sharia law will come to pass in BiH is a fallacy. The public don't want it, the politicians don't want it and the international community won't allow it. Why would Izetbegovic pass control to the Reis??
(ned taylor, 12 August 2015 18:06)

Maybe you should look a little closer, its in your own answer. Bosniaks are all Bosnians whether Serb or Croat or for lack of better word "Bosnian Muslims" which is a Tito creation.

In all my travels across Europe no other nation has allowed the minority Muslim nation to carve out a their own state, the international community did allow it.

Is there such as thing as a "Prussian/Moravian/Bavarian Muslim"state in Germany from the large Turkish Minority?

Italian Serbophile

pre 8 godina

Another staged execution.
Despite the nice theatre, it's incredible that many still think that Daesh was born autonomously. At least it's what happen in subnormal Western countries like Italy: those bedouins started in Iraq, after the "liberation" war who removed Saddam Hussein. Then IS developed itself in Syria, where West was financing and supporting criminals who were against Assad; then to Lybia, where West removed Gheddafi and created what's under our eyes today. "Our" allies are criminal countries like UAE, Qatar, Saudi Arabia who finance Jihad or Turkey who throws bombs on the Kurds, not on Daesh.
With the Caliphate it's happening the same thing that happened in Yugoslavia: meaningless Evils like Croatia, K-albanians, extreme islamist bosniaks were financed and armed by USA, UK, EU. Wars were started. West chose to stand with nazi countries like Croatia or barbaric terrorists like UCK cowards. Today, while Islamic State grows, West is still on the wrong site supporting the nazi-corrupted illegal government in Kiev. Standing with Serbia, with Novorossia, with Syria's legitimate government means standing with morality and standing against criminals like Daesh, KLA, Azov Battalion, Grabar-Kitarovic, Al Nusra, Saudi Arabia, Poroshenko, Thaci...

Joni

pre 8 godina

I feel very - very bad for what happened to this young " guy - son - husband" - and i think that those criminals should be stopped immediately.

And i swear god, i'm really shocked from the comment of the serbs here.

Reading the comment below make me realize what kind of disturbing people you serbs are, and no surprise why you are named the butchers of Balkan.
"Hate" is and uncontrolled feeling - and yes there are some serb which i would like to see "maybe" even dead - like Mladic for example - but i will never - never would like to see a simple innocent human - the son of someone, one father, one husband - dead - even if he is a serb.

My condolences! A young innocent guy 31 years old died! To pitifully!

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

Jugoslavia: You are quite right, the Bosniaks wanted a state where they would be free from the control of Belgrade and the diktats of Milosevic. That does not equate however to an Islamic state or to sharia law.

The Bosnian Serbs never wanted to be part of a separate B&H and neither did the Bosnian Croats. In fact, some so called "Bosnian Muslims" wanted to remain in a federated Yugoslavia, aka Fikret Abdic. I beg to differ, Sharia law is exactly the direction Sarajevo wants to go.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

I feel very sorry that someone said that Serbs are butchers of the Balkan.If you see some comments from some idiot(there are many of them in every country) who says that he is glad to see Croatian man dead, it doesn't mean that everyone think like that. It is not just stupid to write that it is dangerous too. I feel very sorry for the Croatian guy,and my condolences to his family.
(Serb, 13 August 2015 11:01
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Don't worry about what these simpletons think. They complain no matter what we do.
I feel bad for anyone who has to go through this horror and my comment in no way showed any happiness about it but guess what, I still got three negative ticks. I'm not after any acknowledgements either way but just wanted to point out that no matter what we do we are still wrong in their eyes.
They actually want us to behave like them so then they would have something to hang on us.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

The innocent always suffer! The Earth so beautiful but degenerate and evil people make the world such a cold and cruel place! Evil out there just waiting to strike out, Satan never rests, the taste for innocent blood so severe! I think most of us Serbians strongly condemn this terrible act of violence against humanity, we are all children of ONE God! I hope the family parents, wife and the mans poor children survive this terror and horror, God be with them all in this very somber moment!!!

Peggy

pre 8 godina

What a horrible way to die. I hope that at the very least they gave this man enough sedatives to ease the terror.
This is in no way to say that this poor man deserved it but you couldn't pay me enough to go over there for any reason. It's far too dangerous. Europeans over there really should consider getting out.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Jugoslavia: You are quite right, the Bosniaks wanted a state where they would be free from the control of Belgrade and the diktats of Milosevic. That does not equate however to an Islamic state or to sharia law. A state where more people are (very nominally) of the Muslim faith than any other, ie Bosnia, is not the same as an Islamic state, ie Pakistan. I fail to see the point you are making. Bosnian Muslims do not want an Islamic state, they want a country where they are free to dress how they like, drink what they want and shag whoever they please whenever they please, just like Serbs and Croats in their respective countries. There are far more potential terrorists in the UK than in any Balkan country.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

I can't believe I am about to write this, but yes you are right Peggy, taking the Koran literally, will mean that one has to kill people. Taking the Bible literally, will also mean that one has to kill people. I think it would really help humanity if people stopped taking their morals from those two pieces of garbage and used common sense. Face it the Bible and the Koran are all about obedience to authority, only the authority in those books doesn't answer to anyone. Funny thing about the Koran is that it mentions Jesus a lot more than it does Mohammed. It also agrees with a lot of the bible, on Noah, Moses and a lot of other nonsense. It has only added another character, to tell simple humans how they must not sway from worshipping the dear leader, for his self esteem is really important. You don't have to look to far to see where North Korea gets his ideology from

rote

pre 8 godina

It’s a great pity of course … Yet we must remember that these people have little to do with Islam. They could quite call themselves Barsa Fans or the Adventists of the Day-7 or anything else. Near my homeplace ЖИРИНОВСКИЙ is written on a wall but I know it's not him. So no matter what they call themselves they are not Muslims and I don't think that Muslims will have a special Muslim Hell. I’ve twice read Quran and remember that any murder is a crime. Sinner will enter Paradise no sooner than a camel will enter a needle hole ... But these evils cry Allah Akbar and kill Muslims even more than any other people. Very sad story … RIP …

Marcus

pre 8 godina

How quickly squabbling over what happened in the 1990s becomes less relevant everyday in this new era. We must stand with our neighbors on this one. Because guess who the next target is...RIP.

BW, Texas

pre 8 godina

Please take a moment of silence and put yourselves in the place of that innocent young Croatian father of two, and imagine what he and his family and loved ones went through during this deliberately prolonged, torturous ordeal of terror, while hoping and praying for the young man's safe return to his loved ones. And then write your comment.

With sympathy,

Billy Why

Arn.Sweden.

pre 8 godina

I Quote -

If you fail to answer again feel free to ask me. Otherwise I can see no point talking about far away countries and events with a man who does not know the history of his own state.
(rote, 12 August 2015 23:23)

Comment - so bee it - draw your own conclusions !.

Arn.Sweden

rote

pre 8 godina

Arn.Sweden

Forget my name as you know nothing about Sweden to say nothing of the rest. If you are a Swede I am the Indian John … Don’t drink much.


MikeC : Rote Islam is anything but a peaceful religion.

I don’t consider those bastards as Muslims. They even try to improve Quran … If you look back at the latest history all wars in the Middle East and other Muslim regions were initiated and sponsored by the Golden Billion. ISIL is close to what we call the Wahhabi/Salafists (who fought us in Chechnya) but ISIL has no rules at all. Even the Salafists would never commit those crimes. ISIL is the devil’s Dream Team and it’s silly to call them Muslims. For your information Islam means obedience while Muslims are those who obey Allah. Islam appeared in Russia as a branch in Christianity long before Bati Khan established his headquarters in Vatican. This is why for centuries Muslims prayed in Orthodox churches. This is why all Russian old churches together with the cross have also the half moon. This is why mosques older than 16 century cannot be found anywhere. This is why even the official historians call the Muslims as the former Nestorian trend in Christianity. This is why Jesus is mentioned 27 times in Quran against 4 times of Muhammed. This is why Muslims are allowed to pray in churches if Christians don’t mind ect. So we talk about different things.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Mike C: Read the whole of the Old Testament and then tell me what you think about Christianity as a peaceful religion. It's easy to pick and choose passages from other people's centuries old texts whilst ignoring your own. IS do not represent any religion, they represent themselves only. The person who shoots dead an abortion doctor does not do so in the name of religion but because they are warped, so it goes with IS and their obsession with cutting off people's heads.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Mike C: This whole Alija Izetbegovic thing is old news and completely irrelevant. I have met no-one, and I mean NO-ONE, in BiH who has ever mentioned the feasibility or desirability of anything other than a democracy. Secondly, I am not trying to fool anyone, I am British, always have been and always will be. I use a pseudonym because of the nature of my previous employment. I am currently looking out of the window of my very pleasant home near Bournemouth in England, albeit it's raining. Trying to imply that I must be somehow inherently biased if I hold a view that is different from your own is arrogance of the highest order. It is possible to be impartial in these matters and to make informed comments based on evidence and facts. Clearly my views are by definition subjective. I note that you did not address the point I made about the violent nature of the Old Testament. Is this because you need time to read it or because you are aware of the truth of what I said and it doesn't fit your narrative?

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Jugoslavia: When you say 'Sarajevo' who do you mean? Certainly you cannot mean the populace because they have no interest at all in this. Are there one or two senior clerics who want this? Maybe. I want many things but that doesn't mean they are going to happen. Bosnian politicians want to join the EU (and fill their pockets with other people's money) and won't be doing this with Sharia Law. At least you haven't yet accused me of pretending to be British like Mike C. I would very much like to be any number of other nationalities but don't have that option.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Mike C: Thousands of Christian beheadings took place during the crusades. The point is that those perpetrating these atrocities are not representative of Islam in any sense. I'm no expert on the Koran (even though you have me down as a Muslim :-0) but I would be surprised if suicide bombings are explicitly mentioned.
(ned taylor, 13 August 2015 20:20
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You said it yourself. You are no expert on the Koran so you really can't say that this is not representative if Islam. According to an expert on Koran, Robert Spencer, this is exactly what Muslims are commanded to do. There are verses in the Koran which specifically deal with this so if you are a devout Muslim you are told to go and kill the unbelievers, take their women as slaves etc. etc.
Maybe you should go to Robert's site and read what exactly is going on around the world and how so many Imams are preaching in Mosques for Jihad. Now I think those Imams are very familiar with the Koran and if they say that's the way to go then you can't argue with it. Just because our government and our media tells us that Islam is a religion of peace and this is not Islamic doesn't mean that they are right. Listen to what what experts on the Koran say.

marKo

pre 8 godina

May his memory be eternal. Lord have mercy.

I hope it is not inappropriate to make a political statement at such a time, but this never could have happened if outsiders didn't send arms to criminal gangs to overthrow Assad. Nor would ISIS have risen up in Iraq if iraq was not destroyed 4 times through war, bombing and sanctions, invasion, and occupation.
Besides the killers who did this, their sponsors in Nato and some oil selling nations have more innocent blood on their hands.

rote

pre 8 godina

ned taylor : “the violent nature of the Old Testament.”

Ned if you can find “А Child`s History of England” by Charles Dickens on page 93 you will enjoy his story about how the Bible was written in Britain. This book wasn’t expected to be published as it was written for his children only, and he describes the events that had happened some 150 years before him. As a member of the elite he tells of many interesting things. If you fail to read the book I’ll summarize the episode for you. He writes about the 4 evangelists sitting in a London jail. Guess what were their names …

Concerning the Old Testament it was officially introduced in Russia only after the Oldenburgs (sister branch to the Hannover Dynasty to which the Windsor belong) seized Russia. In Russia the Oldenburgs used Romanov trade mark. Yet the first attempt to introduce the Old testament failed in 1826 when Tsar Nicolas I cried that he will never let this “Jewish Bible” become part of the Holy Writ. So he Ordered to burn all the books. Next attempt was made after he died in 1876 but the moved step by step without advertising. So the Russian church accepted it in 1913 before the WW1 only …

I have my own reasons to trust in God and I have my own resons to doubt many religious books in Christianity and Islam. Others I have no idea.

rote

pre 8 godina

Arn.Sweden.

Either you answer my 9 questions about Sweden or you tell us that you are not a Swede. Then you may ask me to educate you about Sweden about Islam or other things that I can help. If you do not confess please leave me alone and talk to yourself.

ned taylor

pre 8 godina

Mike C: Thousands of Christian beheadings took place during the crusades. The point is that those perpetrating these atrocities are not representative of Islam in any sense. I'm no expert on the Koran (even though you have me down as a Muslim :-0) but I would be surprised if suicide bombings are explicitly mentioned.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

. Milosevic proved his case in the ICTY after which he was murdered to cover up the crimes of the international community and it's proxies including the KLA.
(jugoslavija, 13 August 2015 17:16)
Talk about historically inaccurate and with racist overtones!!!

Really, how so "JONI"?

rote

pre 8 godina

In the upper side of the flag it is written LA ILAHI UL ALAH (there’s no God other than Allah) and below in the circle they wrote 3 words in a strange composition ALLA – RASUL- MOHAMMAD (Allah – prophet- Mohammad) … Words are taken from the first Sura and it must be a sin that they destroyed the original phrase “La illahi ul Alla wa Mohammad ur-rasul ul Allah” . Who gave them the right to improve the supposed direct words of Allah ? And I also wonder where’s the logical connection with this poor Croat ? The answer is TOURISM IN EGYPT … Very sad indeed.

rote

pre 8 godina

Arn.Sweden.

“About Rotes false opinion about Islam !. “

So you teach us about Islam, the Bible, Gog/Magog ect. but you don’t know a shit about the history of your own country. You disappeared for 2 days to avoid answering my below questions.

1/ Who were the first six Swedish kings from Carl-I to Carl VI.
2/ Why the burial services after Carl XI were served in Russian and in accordance with the Orthodox Church.
3/ How could his son Carl XII control half Europe with population 30 times exceeding the Swedish one.
4/ Why the Russian Cossacks always preferred Carl to Peter the Great.
5/ Who and when gave numbers to the Swedish kings and what word “Carl” in fact meant.
6/ Why Carl XIII passed the state power not to his own sons but to an unknown French advocate’s son Bernadotte who wasn’t even a noble.
7/ Why the Swedish language was formed so late (in 19-20 centuries) and what language was common there before that.
8/ What word Sweden means.
9/ Why Sweden became “neutral” after Poltava Battle.

If you fail to answer again feel free to ask me. Otherwise I can see no point talking about far away countries and events with a man who does not know the history of his own state.

Wee Kelpie

pre 8 godina

There's a sad bunch of individuals who contribute to this site and use every opportunity to continue their vile rhetoric.
A guy as been killed. Regardless of persuasion he and his family need to be respected.
Some of you by your behaviour are no worse than the perpetrators.

Serb

pre 8 godina

I feel very sorry that someone said that Serbs are butchers of the Balkan.If you see some comments from some idiot(there are many of them in every country) who says that he is glad to see Croatian man dead, it doesn't mean that everyone think like that. It is not just stupid to write that it is dangerous too. I feel very sorry for the Croatian guy,and my condolences to his family.