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Thursday, 16.07.2015.

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Greek decision not to recognize Kosovo remains unchanged

Greek Ambassador to Serbia Constantine Economides has said that his country does not recognize the unilaterally declared independence of Kosovo.

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pre 8 godina

Modern greece doesn't have any connection with old hellenic history. they were Hellenic cities...not "greek" the modern greek identity is not based from a collection of preserved heritage as the Albanians. your identity and history is based only on the Abrahamic religion of orthodoxy. no one in the history of Europe have ever defined themselves as "greeks" other than the modern romioi population inhabiting the modern greek state after 1830. to our beloved neighbours watch the lecture by the brilliant history professor Maria Efthimiou from the University of Athens. you can see for yourself that Albanians were among the most important influential element of the creation of the modern "greek" state. she clearly states that Albanians were among the majority population in all major cities and that the Albanian language is among the oldest languages in Europe.

irini

pre 8 godina

"LOL, the only time Greece and Serbia shared a border was during the second Balkan War. In that time that bond you talk about consisted of fighting with each other over who can get one more strip of land from Macedonia and of who can kill more natives than the other. Had you been sharing a border now, you would not be talking like this, I guarantee it :)."

Dear Reader, though this was not a reply to my post, let me repeat, you have no idea what this Greek comment means. The word bond is not the synonymous of the word border. If you really want to use our history to interpret our comments and the way Greeks and Serbs talk to each other, you are going to have to learn our history first. And you don't.

In reply to your reply to me, I suggest you learn first how Greece helped Serbia from 1991 to 2003 and then you can post comments to discuss it with Greeks or Serbs. Unless of course you are not here to discuss, but only to express your hate to Serbia or whoever.
In any case Reader, take care, stay well and keep in mind that we support Serbs! And if you knew Serbs well, you would know why! Bye!

KOSOVO IS SERBIA! Greetings from Thessaloniki (Solun) to all Serbs ! xxx

Reader

pre 8 godina

(irini, 20 July 2015 04:14)

LOL irini, I can only iterate what icj1 said. So if Tsipras raises the VAT to 23%, cuts pensions and employment even more, raises the retirement age by a lot, sends entire Greek families to starvation and many to suicide, you won't do anything. But if he dares recognize Kosovo, you will do to him things come out from the dark ages from the booboo scary ottomans. Got it :).

Irini, if my memory is right, the Greek government did not do anything in 1999 to stop the war on Serbia. You may have gone to the streets to protest, just like you voted 61% OXI and partied afterward, but all of that was useless. There is a mechanism of consensus in NATO, where they have to unanimously agree on some of the actions they take. That means, every single country has veto power. Since the war in 1999 against Milosevic's brutal regime happened, guess what Greece's vote was back then. :)

Reader

pre 8 godina

"The bond between us is sealed with our ancestors' blood and each nation's sacrifice for the other nation's freedom. "
(HellaSerbia, 20 July 2015 02:07)

LOL, the only time Greece and Serbia shared a border was during the second Balkan War. In that time that bond you talk about consisted of fighting with each other over who can get one more strip of land from Macedonia and of who can kill more natives than the other. Had you been sharing a border now, you would not be talking like this, I guarantee it :).

Ellada Serbia Orthodoxia

pre 8 godina

41 year sago, on 20/07/1974, the Turkish Army invaded Cyprus. 41 years later? The Turks in northern Cyprus can't get independence. THIS IS YOUR FUTURE, ALBANIANS!

The biggest irony is that even the Turks in Cyprus (northern Cyprus) refuse to recognize Kosovo! Ahahahahahahaha!

Support and love from Cyprus and Greece to one of the bravest and kindest nations in the world, the Serbian nation. Kosovo is Serbia

Ivan Belgrade

pre 8 godina

Albanians and other haters no matter how hard you try to spoil relationship between Serbs and Greeks here you will not manage. I understand your envy and hatred toward us its normal for people without tradition, culture, honor,tolerance,people who destroys Serbian cemeteries churches and monesteries centuries old.Good job Albanians you have proved to be top 1 savages of Europe. As i see you estabilished paradise country whose economy is based on human trafficking drugs smugling you can expect beautiful future its so nice to live there that thousands of people leaving Kosovo and Albania.

For Greek brothers big respect and gratefulness for help and support especially during 90's. A lot of us know what have you done for us. We will always be close no matter what. Regards especially for Cyprus, Corfu, Thessaloniki, Crete, Seres, Ioanina, Asprovalta, Lamia and whole Greece from Belgrade. See you soon! Agaph poly aderfia apo thn Veligradi! Ortodoxia aderfia gia panta! Prosexe!

Joni

pre 8 godina

How desperate people are you Serbs!! Really! Looked you here! Too much unexpected Greeks!
When your own slavic blood don't love you, you think the Greeks will love you just because you share the same religion with them ??? Lie yourself!!!
*Do you know what recently a Greek told to me ?
That they were lucky to not have Serbs like neighbours, and that Albania was always the shield of Greece, if not they will have the same problems like other Serbs neighbors. That the Albanians and Serbs are the two most stubborn peoples in Balkan and i agree with that...
* To all the ignorants Serbs, just for your own culture: ask a Greek what is "Methodija"??

No matter how much clashs we had in our history we always were able to overcome the problems with each other.. Look a little how much Albanians are honored in Greece.
Look a little the Greek minority in Albania...
The Archbishop of Orth. Church in Albania is a Greek origin.
And i have no prob. with that as much as he love my country and Albanian orthodoxs.
Chameria is going to be resolved - is the only issue that generates hate between Albanians and Greeks.
End of the discussion! And about the Kosovo - i think Greece have the ~ the same prob with Cyprus so it will take time.
The first step was made!
I'm satisfied with this!

irini

pre 8 godina

@ Reader

Dear Reader, I don't think you have any idea about the Greek nation, so you use specific reactions (or lack of reactions) that come from the Greek nation regarding very specific things, in order to interpret our reactions regarding very different things. You don't know how we feel about Serbia, you don't know what we did for them in the '90s, you don't know how much we willingly risked Greece's political stability in 1999. In 1999 B. Clinton stated in the Congress that he wanted to bomb Serbia, because "such an action could implicate Greece and Turkey in a war between them and that would benefit the American interests". He said it like that! And yet we forced our government to support Serbia, though Greece's interest was to stay neutral. This is what we do when Serbia gets victimized. The riots we had in Greece from 2009-2015 are 10% of what we did in 1999. So don't use our reaction regarding our PM's after-referendum decision, in order to interpret how far we would go for Serbia. These are two different things and I can't explain them to you right here right now, because only Greeks and Serbs understand (you are British, right?). And "the colorful (Serbian-orthodox-church-priest-like) gore" as you called it is not Serbian, it's related to what Ottomans did to ALL Orthodox. Serbs know why I chose impaling as Tsipras' punishment. Reader, you seem very nice, but you lack info. Only Serbs can understand 100% the message that a Greek sends to them. Take care!

icj1

pre 8 godina

All Greeks are anti-americans
(Corfu island, 19 July 2015 15:05)

A friend of mine who is Greek is not anti-american. So the above is a lie. Advice for you: be very careful when using absolute words like "all", "never", "always", etc... You can very easily be proved being a liar :)
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but the voters of Tsipras' political party have the strongest anti-american voice in Greece. If Tsipras betrays Serbia, he is done.
(Corfu island, 19 July 2015 15:05)

Really?! So, Greeks care more about Serbia than Greece! According to you, Greeks make decisions about their Prime Minister not based on what he does about Greece, but what he does about Serbia!!!

I'm so entertained reading the comments in this topic. It looks like we have many Serbs writing as Greeks and that's very easy to see because actual Greeks would care first about themselves, their families, their children, Greece and then perhaps about Serbia...

HellaSerbia

pre 8 godina

LOL this thread is indeed as funny as I was told! The non-Serbs and the non-Greeks here are totally clueless! They don't know what they are talking about! Jesus Christ! Why are they posting comments if they are totally unfamiliar with the topic? And do they actually believe that any of us here will bother to reply?? Jesus Christ!

Don't fall on your Press' trap, brothers. The same is happening in Greece these days, there are several articles against Serbia, because that's the only way for our pro-EU Press to justify what our traitor Minister did to you. But Tsipras knows very well that Greece cannot recognize Kosovo, because if that ever happens the peace in Greece will be at stake.

The bond between us is sealed with our ancestors' blood and each nation's sacrifice for the other nation's freedom. And this didn't happen just once or twice in our history, this IS our history. Those Westerners and their dogs (Albanians) cannot understand this, because they've never felt like that for anyone and no one ever felt like that for them. But Serbs and Greeks know better.

Kosovo is Serbia and will always be Serbia for the Greeks.

katerina

pre 8 godina

July 20, 1974 - July 20, 2015 and the Turk in northern Cyprus STILL can't get independence. THIS IS YOUR FUTURE, ALBANIANS IN KOSOVO HAHAHA!

Greetings from Cyprus to our Orthodox brothers! We love you!

KOSOVO IS SERBIA
KOSOVO IS SERBIA
KOSOVO IS SERBIA
KOSOVO IS SERBIA
KOSOVO IS SERBIA

Too funny

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is Serbia and we know it in Greece. If Tsipras ever tries to recognize Kosoovo, we will impale him, crawl his body to Cyprus, bury him and write on his gravestone "OXI"!

Crcka voli Srbija
(irini, 18 July 2015 18:19)
You supposed Greeks on here are too funny. It is sad if the comments are coming from true Greeks, but chances are they are from Serbs maybe living in Greece, if that!
But as a country, Greece has many many problems today, whether your banks will be open next week, whether you are going to bring home a paycheck, whether the financial picture will improve to where your children will be able to go to college or spend their life in menial jobs with no hope for a future. Or with the ability of its people to easily leave and go somewhere else for a brighter future leaving only the rich and the desolate to be the future Greeks.
But yet should Greece recognize Kosovo, you are going to raise up in the masses. Recognition of Kosovo from Greece is a minor point at this time, when the time comes that it is needed like for EU admission, Greece will come in line if they are still a voting member.
You have your Orthodox religion to bind you together for now. But wait until the Greeks realize that it is inherent that Serbs believe they are the chosen people and Greeks are some sub sect of the religion.

Gotsefromohrid

pre 8 godina

Reading the comments of albanian posters one wonders whether to laugh or cry.Albania is the most corrupt country in europe and even behind african counties such us timbaktu or bokina faso on the transparency list and albanians are accusing others for being corrupt.what a freeking nerve.

Reader

pre 8 godina

"If Tsipras ever tries to recognize Kosoovo, we will impale him, crawl his body to Cyprus, bury him and write on his gravestone "OXI"!"
(irini, 18 July 2015 18:19)

Apart from the colorful (Serbian-orthodox-church-priest-like) gore, I am having a deja vu. You just said OXI irini, 61% of OXI right? People were dancing in the streets. Hand in hand. Greek flags were flying, plates were being broken by the millions. And then what happened next? What did Tsipras do after your OXI? More exactly, where did he put your OXI? :)

we will never betray Serbia

pre 8 godina

"Greek decision not to recognize Kosovo remains unchanged"

OF COURSE.

Kosovo je Serbia, love and support from Greece to the brothers!

Mendo

pre 8 godina

@Alexandros,

Your beloved orthodox brothers make you proud because of what? Maybe coz they went berserk killing people or shall I say mostly Muslims if it makes you more happy, pathetic I woul call your comment.

Corfu island

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is Serbia, no Greek will ever recognize a Serbian State as independent! Tsipras will never recognize Kosovo, his voters were throwing Molotov cocktails to NATO spots in Greece in 1999 and they blocked with their cars and trucks all the streets in northern Greece, to prevent NATO from transferring weapons and troops from the NATO Base in Greece to Skopje, because NATO wanted to use the FYROMian land to bomb Serbs. All Greeks are anti-americans, but the voters of Tsipras' political party have the strongest anti-american voice in Greece. If Tsipras betrays Serbia, he is done.

Kosovo is Serbia
Kosovo is Serbia

KOSOVO IS SERBIA!

Hellas, Serbia, Orthodoxy!

Pavlos77

pre 8 godina

"We (Greeks) never forgive - We (Greeks) Never forget - 24.3.1999"

That was the slogan in the latest protest we had in Greece about Kosovo and what NATO did to Serbia in 1999. That protest was held in 2014 (for the 15 years after). Did your nice, objective and politically independent media tell you about it? I bet they didn't.

Kosovo is Serbia - Kosovo je Srbija!

Eirini Thessaloniki

pre 8 godina

In Greece we say "Kosovo is the heart of Serbia".

Our newspapers write that Serbia supports FYROM's membership in the EU and NATO and your newspapers write that Greece supports "Kosovo" 's membership in the EU and NATO. Do you see what's going on?

Tsipras will NOT recognize Kosovo, he made it clear one day after our Minister made the "pro-UCK" statements, as we call them in Greece!

No politician, no EU, no NATO, not even God can injure the Greek-Serbian bond. Greece loves Serbia! Kosovo is the heart of Serbia!

Greeks love Serbs

pre 8 godina

Tsipras stated that "Greece does NOT and will NOT recognize Kosovo". If Tsipras recognizes Kosovo, he will jeopardize peace in Greece. In every country, peace comes first. Whoever believes that Greece might even consider to recognize Kosovo is as dumb as an Albanian (and Albanians are the dumbest in Europe).

There are many groups and pages on facebook about the Greek-Serbian friendship. Find them and become members so that you will have the chance to discuss with us whatever you want.

GREEKS SUPPORT SERBS! YOU ARE OUR BROTHERS, NEVER FORGET THAT!
Kisses and hugs from Thessaloniki (Solun)!

mina

pre 8 godina

This article is the most popular article amongst Greeks on facebook today. Half of us laugh at those scums who beg every single country to recognize Kosovo and the other half are angry at the Serbian newspapers for not telling you the truth. GREECE WILL NOT RECOGNIZE KOSOVO.
Kosovo is Serbia, greetings from Greece to our brothers! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeX_GcpGGnY

Alexandros

pre 8 godina

I am Greek, just like every other Greek I have special feelings for Serbia and moreover I want Greece to support Serbia on Kosovo, because Albanians have no right to claim Serbian land. Needless to say that I am not going to support or vote a Greek political party that sides with Albania. However, I read several Serbian comments lately regarding the (irrefutably awful) comments of the Greek Minister Kotzias. Before Serbs judge Greece, they have to remember that Greeks were the ONLY allies they had in their most difficult times. We risked peace and stability in Greece to support you and in 1995 Serbia stabbed us in the back. Whoever recognizes the name Macedonia, recognizes FYORM's territorial claims over Greece. Dacic expects explanation from Athens regarding the Kotzias statements, while at the same time Dacic supports FYROM's accession in the EU and NATO (while Greece doesn't). Not to mention the statements of Nikolic and Irinej about FYROM and Greece..Where were you last year Serbs when Nikolic made those statements? How come I didn't see a single Serb posting a comment against Nikolic? If Serbia wants allies, Serbia needs to start acting as an ally.

I am saying all that with love and only love for the bravest nation in the world during the '90s, for our beloved brothers who made us proud so many times in the past and who will always care for, regardless politics and politicians.

Kosovo is SERBIA.

Andreas

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is Serbia and all Hellenes say it. Solidarity from Greece to our brothers in Serbia. No one here including our Prime Minister will ever support filthy land-thieves, drug dealers, rapists and butchers, and Albanians are all that. Kosovo belongs to Serbs.

irini

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is Serbia and we know it in Greece. If Tsipras ever tries to recognize Kosoovo, we will impale him, crawl his body to Cyprus, bury him and write on his gravestone "OXI"!

Crcka voli Srbija

Serbs are our brothers and will always be

pre 8 godina

Tsipras took back Kotzias' words the next day - Greece remains with Serbia's position; will NOT recognize Kosovo

Why didn't B92 publish it? It's been so many days.

Albanians will never be independent. If you can't get independence within 15 years, you will never get it. Albanians sucked it up big time and they know it. Even the Albanian immigrants in Greece make fun of the Albanians in Kosovo.

Kosovo is Serbia and we Greeks know it.

serbianiq89

pre 8 godina

Elena, that is funny considering how average national IQ of Greece is 92. You might think that you are clever with your tax evasion, ponzi schemes and bailout scams, but I assure you that you greeks are one of the most hated people in Western Europe.

just a note

pre 8 godina

(Elena, Greece, 18 July 2015 06:19
A Greek trying to insult an American, it just is not happening my dear. You post is built on lies and propaganda, nothing more, nothing less.
Another year and you will be taking lessons from the Roma on how to beg and swindle!

Elena, Greece

pre 8 godina

@ rote

We know that Russian brother, but thank you for telling me :-)
PS: Greece and Russia will start drilling the Greek oil in southern Greece in January. It's official ;-)

Elena, Greece

pre 8 godina

@ Just a note

I'm not sure if that was me, but yes, Greece did protect Serbs in Kosovo-Metohija. And many brutalized Serbian women were brought to the Greek hospitals, because Albanians attacked them and then Kosovo refused hospitalization to them. Don't tell me you've never read a single UNHCR-UNKT report?? And you are posing yourself as what, an expert on Kosovo-Metohija? Hahaha, I bet you are American. It's always the American IQ.
Watch this and learn few things, since obviously you don't like reading. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nHWsWOgtiw
PS: Thessaloniki is the name of a Greek city. So that you can understand the video, cause you Americans need 20 minutes to find Belgium on the map.

Mel

pre 8 godina

Greeks, Albanians, Serbs, you are all the same people. Genetically and even culturally. To an outsider you look the same, you act the same and fire up in long conversations of superiority to the neighbors just the same. Keep the fight up, and more powerful countries will do with you as they wish. You are your own demise!

I've visited all three countries on vacation and had a great time! I must add the balkan non-sense is hard to grasp!

Cheers,
Mel
from USA

Nikos_PAOK_Partizan

pre 8 godina

You Albanians are something else. Did you really believe for one sec that Greece was willing to recognize Serbian land as independent?Seriously?!? If you did, it only proves one thing, that you are desperate. 16 years and you still cry for independence. The biggest cowards in Europe, the only Europeans that sent another country (in fact a whole coalition of countries, i.e. NATO) to fight for their own battles and yet you still can't achieve independence.

Few words to Serbs: (a) If you really know your recent history and all the details about the Greek nation's reaction and help in the '90s, then you should know that the Greek nation can accept a lot, but we will never accept a pro-USA Greek government that backstabs Serbs. I was very surprised to read some Serbian comments these days. Learn your recent history, we gambled Greece for you in the 90s. (b) If you know some basic stuff about Greece's national issues (and be careful, I don't mean only Cyprus), then you know why Greece can never recognize Kosovo. We have our own "Raška" in Greece, if you know what I mean.(c) If a Greek PM turns out to be a traitor and recognizes Kosovo (because a Greek PM who recognizes Kosovo, harms directly Greece's national interests), expect a huge reaction from us. Over our dead bodies, brothers. (d) Did I forget to mention that we hate Albanians and their "greater maps"?
Grcka loves Srbija and not even God can change that. And on top of that we have common interests.

factman

pre 8 godina

Greece will not recognize Kosovo because of Cyprus.

To recognize Kosovo opens the door to the recognition of Turkey's partition of Cyprus.

Ditto Spain, because that means the door is open to the Basques to break off. Romania. Slovakia. China. Russia. etc. It's not so much their love of Serbs (although some are sympathetic), but rather to protect themselves.

At some point (maybe already?) Kosovo runs up against the resistance of other countries who have volatile minorities looking to exploit an opening that will lead to independence for themselves.

LOL

pre 8 godina

We, Greek nationalists, consider albanians as our enemy and Serbs are our brothers. As clear as this.
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Reality: most Golden Dawn members the largest so called nationalist group in Greece are Albanians and Arvanites, including head of the women league Nikol Beneki. The list goes on. Not to mention Golden Dawn and Greek National League in 1980: Alvanoi kai Ellines eimaste Ena! albanians and Greeks are one!

Oh and please dont forget the video on youtube from 2012 where amongst other nationalists, Nicholaos Michaloliakos says "Albanians and Greeks have been neighbours for thousands of years..." Search it Νίκος Μιχαλολιακος Αλβανούς.

May seem hard to believe but its all out there so nice try fooling everyone, in reality only fooling yourself :-)

Free

pre 8 godina

I think that Greece has billons of "euro problems" more interesting to think about. And now they finally reached the Agreement with Troika, i don`t think challenging EU internal policy is the best for Greece.

I doubt if Greek people really care about Kosovo recognition, but even those who are so "philoserbian" to have to worry about Kosovo recpgnition more than their internal problems does it really matters what they think?

Kosovo recognition is a political decision, and has nothing to do with any feeling, interest only.

And having a strong "proserb" possition over Kosovo is not Greece`s best interest.

just a note

pre 8 godina

(Elena, Greece, 17 July 2015 04:40
Isn't this the same Elena that tried told the story of how Greece was asked to allow Serbs to live on the Greek bases in Kosovo for protection??? Of course that tale came before she actually checked and would have found out that Greece had never had their own base in Kosovo. Their soldiers primarily housed on one of the US bases. And that it is verifiable that no citizens ever lived on the Kfor bases.
So take her comments as you wish! They are opinions not based on facts to be sure.

rote

pre 8 godina

Elena, Greece

Please remember that absolute majority here wish good luck to Greece. So best if you do not provoke them now that nothing is clear. Be patient enough and you will find compassion. Other neighbors of yours are in a little better situation. I personally believe that the initial OXI plan was logical. At least there was a chance … but let’s hope that things will change for better.

Azir

pre 8 godina

@ Elena the Poor Greek ignorant:

Kosova has 111 nations of the world that doesn't agree with you and your co defendants in. Serbia.

Greece will recognize Kosova just ask Germany the country you have to kiss ass to have some money for food.

You nearly bankrupt and if it wasn't for your traditional begging EU would of tossed your lazy good for nothing ass out of their earned organization .

Greece is in need of our friendship more than we need you.
Who knows if matters get worse we can possibly feed you and help you find shelter....peasants😊

Elena, Greece

pre 8 godina

Poor Albanians, you were happy for one whole day, hahaha! I was reading your comments yesterday and I must admit I laughed a lot! You really thought Greece would recognize a pseudo-State, didn't you? Poor Albanians, naïve and idiots as always! It must be your genes or the stash you smoke! Well I have news for you, Tsipras made statements yesterday and he stated CLEARLY that Greece does NOT recognize Kosovo and that this is a FIXED position for Greece. Moreover, if Greece ever accepts to have an office of Kosovo in Greece, that office will not be an Embassy!
Just because no one ever loved you Albanians (and no one ever will), it doesn't mean that no one loves Serbs! We do! And we ALWAYS will. And keep in mind that Tsipras' days are OVER in the Ministry of the Hellenic Republic. He is counting days. And if you want to know how much we love Serbs and how we feel about Kosovo and Metohija, watch this and educate yourselves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFhyYnUQ9pI
PS: Serbian brothers, take Vucic' government down ASAP. It's him you should worry about, not Greece.

Elena, Greece

pre 8 godina

@ Reader

You are right in what you say, but Tsipras did make statements yesterday. And politicians from the other political parties in Greece made statements too, accusing Kotzias. I don't know why it's not on B92 today, but Tsipras basically repeated the Ambassador's statement and made very clear that Greece's position on Kosovo will not change.

carpe diem

pre 8 godina

Maybe the Balkans should have never separated from Turkey after all.
Turkey would be today a true modern and powerful state run mainly by Balkan people and balkan people wont be at each others throat so often. Life in the balkans was always better under the Ottomans than under any other empire. The best Western Europeans will do is pillage the balkans and go home.

Reader

pre 8 godina

"Serbian Foreign Minister Ivica Dacic said on Thursday he was aware of the pressure Greece is under to recognize Kosovo, but that he believes it would not happen."

Greece is under a lot of pressure about many other things these days. The pressure about recognizing Kosovo is the last of the last priorities in this moment, assuming it even exists. Dacic's request for explanations also will be the last thing the Greeks think about right now. As usual everybody thinks only about themselves and Dacic is no exception. Not a word of solidarity has he said towards the Greek people and government. None that made the media at least. But when Kosovo is involved he brings it up as the central theme. Basically this request for explanations sounds like asking a man in terrible pain who just lost his arms to give you a massage on your left toe. The answer of the Greek ambassador was great: "It was very clear" he said. Meaning, why is Dacic even talking about it, it was clear.

allfailed

pre 8 godina

And what state aren't a failed one at the Balkans. Slavs used a turkish currency dinar, Albanians are a complete joke and this greeks such as Tsipras are Christian Turks.

carpe diem

pre 8 godina

The way things are going, Greece is fast becoming a failed state worse than Kosovo. Greeks are just a bunch of hellenised serbs , turks and albanians who pretend to be the grandsons of Socrates. They are the most artificial and fake creation in the Balkans, have subverted ancient greece history for themselves and continue to have a standard of living for as long as they are able to find naive countries to lend them money that will never be paid back. If one considers Greece's debt, they real standard of living and GDP is similar to Serbia or Albania.

just a note

pre 8 godina

Too sensitive Belgrade is.

There.They said it.

Now go back to your main job: GROW THE ECONOMY!
(factman, 16 July 2015 15:05)
I agree, much ado about nothing.
But I see great similarities in Greek and Serbian politics, you have one shooting off their mouth one day and then the next you have someone contradicting what was actually said.
But in this case he did not contradict what was said yesterday, he said that what was said was very clear. And it was because he said yesterday that Greece supported Kosovo membership in international organizations and they have done that up to date but he did say that the position on recognition is unchanged.
It was Serbia that tried to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Greek policies have not changed in this administration from the last.
Many of the countries throughout the world have issues with the UDI for their own personal reasons and their failure to recognize Kosovo is not in reality a support for Serbia.

the truth

pre 8 godina

Greek Ambassador to Serbia Constantine Economides has said that his country does not recognize the unilaterally declared independence of Kosovo.

Who cares what the ambassador is saying, since Greek gov. is not impeding Kosova in any way and also doing a lot of business +supporting Kosova gov. in every way possible. Now , can Serbia read between lines or what!????

scepticism

pre 8 godina

The person/ idiot who currently holds the position of minister of foreign affairs of Greece certainly DOESN'T express the feelings of Greek people.

There is no way for Greek people to accept the recognition of a monkey state like kosovo. We, Greek nationalists, consider albanians as our enemy and Serbs are our brothers. As clear as this.

Someone has to say to the employee of the ministry of foreign affairs who currently receives his salary by being "minister" that not all of us are leftists and not not all of us are idiots.

Enough with the monkeys

Kosovo IS Serbia

Guest

pre 8 godina

Greece indeed is trying to figure out a way to recognize Kosovo for her personal interest. "Under Pressue" is a great way out for Greece. They get their share internationally, and save friendship with serbia. Greece could careless about a new country that cannot seem to stand on its own two feet. However, Greece also has lost its balance of her feet and can use this opportunity to show the international community, mainly EU that Greece is willing to contribute to EU's values and ideas of peace of stability in Balkan area. Serbia will be upset, but it will get over it eventually as it did with montenegro and macedonia.

RK

pre 8 godina

"Serbia has asked an explanation from Greece"


Leave them alone for a while! For the time being they cannot tell "B" from broomstick.

(RK, 16 July 2015 09:52)

WHAT I SAID LEAVE THEM ALONE !

scepticism

pre 8 godina

The person/ idiot who currently holds the position of minister of foreign affairs of Greece certainly DOESN'T express the feelings of Greek people.

There is no way for Greek people to accept the recognition of a monkey state like kosovo. We, Greek nationalists, consider albanians as our enemy and Serbs are our brothers. As clear as this.

Someone has to say to the employee of the ministry of foreign affairs who currently receives his salary by being "minister" that not all of us are leftists and not not all of us are idiots.

Enough with the monkeys

Kosovo IS Serbia

Elena, Greece

pre 8 godina

Poor Albanians, you were happy for one whole day, hahaha! I was reading your comments yesterday and I must admit I laughed a lot! You really thought Greece would recognize a pseudo-State, didn't you? Poor Albanians, naïve and idiots as always! It must be your genes or the stash you smoke! Well I have news for you, Tsipras made statements yesterday and he stated CLEARLY that Greece does NOT recognize Kosovo and that this is a FIXED position for Greece. Moreover, if Greece ever accepts to have an office of Kosovo in Greece, that office will not be an Embassy!
Just because no one ever loved you Albanians (and no one ever will), it doesn't mean that no one loves Serbs! We do! And we ALWAYS will. And keep in mind that Tsipras' days are OVER in the Ministry of the Hellenic Republic. He is counting days. And if you want to know how much we love Serbs and how we feel about Kosovo and Metohija, watch this and educate yourselves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFhyYnUQ9pI
PS: Serbian brothers, take Vucic' government down ASAP. It's him you should worry about, not Greece.

Nikos_PAOK_Partizan

pre 8 godina

You Albanians are something else. Did you really believe for one sec that Greece was willing to recognize Serbian land as independent?Seriously?!? If you did, it only proves one thing, that you are desperate. 16 years and you still cry for independence. The biggest cowards in Europe, the only Europeans that sent another country (in fact a whole coalition of countries, i.e. NATO) to fight for their own battles and yet you still can't achieve independence.

Few words to Serbs: (a) If you really know your recent history and all the details about the Greek nation's reaction and help in the '90s, then you should know that the Greek nation can accept a lot, but we will never accept a pro-USA Greek government that backstabs Serbs. I was very surprised to read some Serbian comments these days. Learn your recent history, we gambled Greece for you in the 90s. (b) If you know some basic stuff about Greece's national issues (and be careful, I don't mean only Cyprus), then you know why Greece can never recognize Kosovo. We have our own "Raška" in Greece, if you know what I mean.(c) If a Greek PM turns out to be a traitor and recognizes Kosovo (because a Greek PM who recognizes Kosovo, harms directly Greece's national interests), expect a huge reaction from us. Over our dead bodies, brothers. (d) Did I forget to mention that we hate Albanians and their "greater maps"?
Grcka loves Srbija and not even God can change that. And on top of that we have common interests.

Elena, Greece

pre 8 godina

@ Reader

You are right in what you say, but Tsipras did make statements yesterday. And politicians from the other political parties in Greece made statements too, accusing Kotzias. I don't know why it's not on B92 today, but Tsipras basically repeated the Ambassador's statement and made very clear that Greece's position on Kosovo will not change.

Elena, Greece

pre 8 godina

@ Just a note

I'm not sure if that was me, but yes, Greece did protect Serbs in Kosovo-Metohija. And many brutalized Serbian women were brought to the Greek hospitals, because Albanians attacked them and then Kosovo refused hospitalization to them. Don't tell me you've never read a single UNHCR-UNKT report?? And you are posing yourself as what, an expert on Kosovo-Metohija? Hahaha, I bet you are American. It's always the American IQ.
Watch this and learn few things, since obviously you don't like reading. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nHWsWOgtiw
PS: Thessaloniki is the name of a Greek city. So that you can understand the video, cause you Americans need 20 minutes to find Belgium on the map.

Alexandros

pre 8 godina

I am Greek, just like every other Greek I have special feelings for Serbia and moreover I want Greece to support Serbia on Kosovo, because Albanians have no right to claim Serbian land. Needless to say that I am not going to support or vote a Greek political party that sides with Albania. However, I read several Serbian comments lately regarding the (irrefutably awful) comments of the Greek Minister Kotzias. Before Serbs judge Greece, they have to remember that Greeks were the ONLY allies they had in their most difficult times. We risked peace and stability in Greece to support you and in 1995 Serbia stabbed us in the back. Whoever recognizes the name Macedonia, recognizes FYORM's territorial claims over Greece. Dacic expects explanation from Athens regarding the Kotzias statements, while at the same time Dacic supports FYROM's accession in the EU and NATO (while Greece doesn't). Not to mention the statements of Nikolic and Irinej about FYROM and Greece..Where were you last year Serbs when Nikolic made those statements? How come I didn't see a single Serb posting a comment against Nikolic? If Serbia wants allies, Serbia needs to start acting as an ally.

I am saying all that with love and only love for the bravest nation in the world during the '90s, for our beloved brothers who made us proud so many times in the past and who will always care for, regardless politics and politicians.

Kosovo is SERBIA.

Andreas

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is Serbia and all Hellenes say it. Solidarity from Greece to our brothers in Serbia. No one here including our Prime Minister will ever support filthy land-thieves, drug dealers, rapists and butchers, and Albanians are all that. Kosovo belongs to Serbs.

Guest

pre 8 godina

Greece indeed is trying to figure out a way to recognize Kosovo for her personal interest. "Under Pressue" is a great way out for Greece. They get their share internationally, and save friendship with serbia. Greece could careless about a new country that cannot seem to stand on its own two feet. However, Greece also has lost its balance of her feet and can use this opportunity to show the international community, mainly EU that Greece is willing to contribute to EU's values and ideas of peace of stability in Balkan area. Serbia will be upset, but it will get over it eventually as it did with montenegro and macedonia.

irini

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is Serbia and we know it in Greece. If Tsipras ever tries to recognize Kosoovo, we will impale him, crawl his body to Cyprus, bury him and write on his gravestone "OXI"!

Crcka voli Srbija

Reader

pre 8 godina

"Serbian Foreign Minister Ivica Dacic said on Thursday he was aware of the pressure Greece is under to recognize Kosovo, but that he believes it would not happen."

Greece is under a lot of pressure about many other things these days. The pressure about recognizing Kosovo is the last of the last priorities in this moment, assuming it even exists. Dacic's request for explanations also will be the last thing the Greeks think about right now. As usual everybody thinks only about themselves and Dacic is no exception. Not a word of solidarity has he said towards the Greek people and government. None that made the media at least. But when Kosovo is involved he brings it up as the central theme. Basically this request for explanations sounds like asking a man in terrible pain who just lost his arms to give you a massage on your left toe. The answer of the Greek ambassador was great: "It was very clear" he said. Meaning, why is Dacic even talking about it, it was clear.

factman

pre 8 godina

Greece will not recognize Kosovo because of Cyprus.

To recognize Kosovo opens the door to the recognition of Turkey's partition of Cyprus.

Ditto Spain, because that means the door is open to the Basques to break off. Romania. Slovakia. China. Russia. etc. It's not so much their love of Serbs (although some are sympathetic), but rather to protect themselves.

At some point (maybe already?) Kosovo runs up against the resistance of other countries who have volatile minorities looking to exploit an opening that will lead to independence for themselves.

Elena, Greece

pre 8 godina

@ rote

We know that Russian brother, but thank you for telling me :-)
PS: Greece and Russia will start drilling the Greek oil in southern Greece in January. It's official ;-)

Serbs are our brothers and will always be

pre 8 godina

Tsipras took back Kotzias' words the next day - Greece remains with Serbia's position; will NOT recognize Kosovo

Why didn't B92 publish it? It's been so many days.

Albanians will never be independent. If you can't get independence within 15 years, you will never get it. Albanians sucked it up big time and they know it. Even the Albanian immigrants in Greece make fun of the Albanians in Kosovo.

Kosovo is Serbia and we Greeks know it.

just a note

pre 8 godina

Too sensitive Belgrade is.

There.They said it.

Now go back to your main job: GROW THE ECONOMY!
(factman, 16 July 2015 15:05)
I agree, much ado about nothing.
But I see great similarities in Greek and Serbian politics, you have one shooting off their mouth one day and then the next you have someone contradicting what was actually said.
But in this case he did not contradict what was said yesterday, he said that what was said was very clear. And it was because he said yesterday that Greece supported Kosovo membership in international organizations and they have done that up to date but he did say that the position on recognition is unchanged.
It was Serbia that tried to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Greek policies have not changed in this administration from the last.
Many of the countries throughout the world have issues with the UDI for their own personal reasons and their failure to recognize Kosovo is not in reality a support for Serbia.

Gotsefromohrid

pre 8 godina

Reading the comments of albanian posters one wonders whether to laugh or cry.Albania is the most corrupt country in europe and even behind african counties such us timbaktu or bokina faso on the transparency list and albanians are accusing others for being corrupt.what a freeking nerve.

carpe diem

pre 8 godina

The way things are going, Greece is fast becoming a failed state worse than Kosovo. Greeks are just a bunch of hellenised serbs , turks and albanians who pretend to be the grandsons of Socrates. They are the most artificial and fake creation in the Balkans, have subverted ancient greece history for themselves and continue to have a standard of living for as long as they are able to find naive countries to lend them money that will never be paid back. If one considers Greece's debt, they real standard of living and GDP is similar to Serbia or Albania.

Azir

pre 8 godina

@ Elena the Poor Greek ignorant:

Kosova has 111 nations of the world that doesn't agree with you and your co defendants in. Serbia.

Greece will recognize Kosova just ask Germany the country you have to kiss ass to have some money for food.

You nearly bankrupt and if it wasn't for your traditional begging EU would of tossed your lazy good for nothing ass out of their earned organization .

Greece is in need of our friendship more than we need you.
Who knows if matters get worse we can possibly feed you and help you find shelter....peasants😊

just a note

pre 8 godina

(Elena, Greece, 17 July 2015 04:40
Isn't this the same Elena that tried told the story of how Greece was asked to allow Serbs to live on the Greek bases in Kosovo for protection??? Of course that tale came before she actually checked and would have found out that Greece had never had their own base in Kosovo. Their soldiers primarily housed on one of the US bases. And that it is verifiable that no citizens ever lived on the Kfor bases.
So take her comments as you wish! They are opinions not based on facts to be sure.

Pavlos77

pre 8 godina

"We (Greeks) never forgive - We (Greeks) Never forget - 24.3.1999"

That was the slogan in the latest protest we had in Greece about Kosovo and what NATO did to Serbia in 1999. That protest was held in 2014 (for the 15 years after). Did your nice, objective and politically independent media tell you about it? I bet they didn't.

Kosovo is Serbia - Kosovo je Srbija!

rote

pre 8 godina

Elena, Greece

Please remember that absolute majority here wish good luck to Greece. So best if you do not provoke them now that nothing is clear. Be patient enough and you will find compassion. Other neighbors of yours are in a little better situation. I personally believe that the initial OXI plan was logical. At least there was a chance … but let’s hope that things will change for better.

mina

pre 8 godina

This article is the most popular article amongst Greeks on facebook today. Half of us laugh at those scums who beg every single country to recognize Kosovo and the other half are angry at the Serbian newspapers for not telling you the truth. GREECE WILL NOT RECOGNIZE KOSOVO.
Kosovo is Serbia, greetings from Greece to our brothers! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeX_GcpGGnY

Greeks love Serbs

pre 8 godina

Tsipras stated that "Greece does NOT and will NOT recognize Kosovo". If Tsipras recognizes Kosovo, he will jeopardize peace in Greece. In every country, peace comes first. Whoever believes that Greece might even consider to recognize Kosovo is as dumb as an Albanian (and Albanians are the dumbest in Europe).

There are many groups and pages on facebook about the Greek-Serbian friendship. Find them and become members so that you will have the chance to discuss with us whatever you want.

GREEKS SUPPORT SERBS! YOU ARE OUR BROTHERS, NEVER FORGET THAT!
Kisses and hugs from Thessaloniki (Solun)!

Eirini Thessaloniki

pre 8 godina

In Greece we say "Kosovo is the heart of Serbia".

Our newspapers write that Serbia supports FYROM's membership in the EU and NATO and your newspapers write that Greece supports "Kosovo" 's membership in the EU and NATO. Do you see what's going on?

Tsipras will NOT recognize Kosovo, he made it clear one day after our Minister made the "pro-UCK" statements, as we call them in Greece!

No politician, no EU, no NATO, not even God can injure the Greek-Serbian bond. Greece loves Serbia! Kosovo is the heart of Serbia!

Corfu island

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is Serbia, no Greek will ever recognize a Serbian State as independent! Tsipras will never recognize Kosovo, his voters were throwing Molotov cocktails to NATO spots in Greece in 1999 and they blocked with their cars and trucks all the streets in northern Greece, to prevent NATO from transferring weapons and troops from the NATO Base in Greece to Skopje, because NATO wanted to use the FYROMian land to bomb Serbs. All Greeks are anti-americans, but the voters of Tsipras' political party have the strongest anti-american voice in Greece. If Tsipras betrays Serbia, he is done.

Kosovo is Serbia
Kosovo is Serbia

KOSOVO IS SERBIA!

Hellas, Serbia, Orthodoxy!

we will never betray Serbia

pre 8 godina

"Greek decision not to recognize Kosovo remains unchanged"

OF COURSE.

Kosovo je Serbia, love and support from Greece to the brothers!

the truth

pre 8 godina

Greek Ambassador to Serbia Constantine Economides has said that his country does not recognize the unilaterally declared independence of Kosovo.

Who cares what the ambassador is saying, since Greek gov. is not impeding Kosova in any way and also doing a lot of business +supporting Kosova gov. in every way possible. Now , can Serbia read between lines or what!????

Free

pre 8 godina

I think that Greece has billons of "euro problems" more interesting to think about. And now they finally reached the Agreement with Troika, i don`t think challenging EU internal policy is the best for Greece.

I doubt if Greek people really care about Kosovo recognition, but even those who are so "philoserbian" to have to worry about Kosovo recpgnition more than their internal problems does it really matters what they think?

Kosovo recognition is a political decision, and has nothing to do with any feeling, interest only.

And having a strong "proserb" possition over Kosovo is not Greece`s best interest.

just a note

pre 8 godina

(Elena, Greece, 18 July 2015 06:19
A Greek trying to insult an American, it just is not happening my dear. You post is built on lies and propaganda, nothing more, nothing less.
Another year and you will be taking lessons from the Roma on how to beg and swindle!

LOL

pre 8 godina

We, Greek nationalists, consider albanians as our enemy and Serbs are our brothers. As clear as this.
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Reality: most Golden Dawn members the largest so called nationalist group in Greece are Albanians and Arvanites, including head of the women league Nikol Beneki. The list goes on. Not to mention Golden Dawn and Greek National League in 1980: Alvanoi kai Ellines eimaste Ena! albanians and Greeks are one!

Oh and please dont forget the video on youtube from 2012 where amongst other nationalists, Nicholaos Michaloliakos says "Albanians and Greeks have been neighbours for thousands of years..." Search it Νίκος Μιχαλολιακος Αλβανούς.

May seem hard to believe but its all out there so nice try fooling everyone, in reality only fooling yourself :-)

Mel

pre 8 godina

Greeks, Albanians, Serbs, you are all the same people. Genetically and even culturally. To an outsider you look the same, you act the same and fire up in long conversations of superiority to the neighbors just the same. Keep the fight up, and more powerful countries will do with you as they wish. You are your own demise!

I've visited all three countries on vacation and had a great time! I must add the balkan non-sense is hard to grasp!

Cheers,
Mel
from USA

Too funny

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is Serbia and we know it in Greece. If Tsipras ever tries to recognize Kosoovo, we will impale him, crawl his body to Cyprus, bury him and write on his gravestone "OXI"!

Crcka voli Srbija
(irini, 18 July 2015 18:19)
You supposed Greeks on here are too funny. It is sad if the comments are coming from true Greeks, but chances are they are from Serbs maybe living in Greece, if that!
But as a country, Greece has many many problems today, whether your banks will be open next week, whether you are going to bring home a paycheck, whether the financial picture will improve to where your children will be able to go to college or spend their life in menial jobs with no hope for a future. Or with the ability of its people to easily leave and go somewhere else for a brighter future leaving only the rich and the desolate to be the future Greeks.
But yet should Greece recognize Kosovo, you are going to raise up in the masses. Recognition of Kosovo from Greece is a minor point at this time, when the time comes that it is needed like for EU admission, Greece will come in line if they are still a voting member.
You have your Orthodox religion to bind you together for now. But wait until the Greeks realize that it is inherent that Serbs believe they are the chosen people and Greeks are some sub sect of the religion.

Ivan Belgrade

pre 8 godina

Albanians and other haters no matter how hard you try to spoil relationship between Serbs and Greeks here you will not manage. I understand your envy and hatred toward us its normal for people without tradition, culture, honor,tolerance,people who destroys Serbian cemeteries churches and monesteries centuries old.Good job Albanians you have proved to be top 1 savages of Europe. As i see you estabilished paradise country whose economy is based on human trafficking drugs smugling you can expect beautiful future its so nice to live there that thousands of people leaving Kosovo and Albania.

For Greek brothers big respect and gratefulness for help and support especially during 90's. A lot of us know what have you done for us. We will always be close no matter what. Regards especially for Cyprus, Corfu, Thessaloniki, Crete, Seres, Ioanina, Asprovalta, Lamia and whole Greece from Belgrade. See you soon! Agaph poly aderfia apo thn Veligradi! Ortodoxia aderfia gia panta! Prosexe!

serbianiq89

pre 8 godina

Elena, that is funny considering how average national IQ of Greece is 92. You might think that you are clever with your tax evasion, ponzi schemes and bailout scams, but I assure you that you greeks are one of the most hated people in Western Europe.

katerina

pre 8 godina

July 20, 1974 - July 20, 2015 and the Turk in northern Cyprus STILL can't get independence. THIS IS YOUR FUTURE, ALBANIANS IN KOSOVO HAHAHA!

Greetings from Cyprus to our Orthodox brothers! We love you!

KOSOVO IS SERBIA
KOSOVO IS SERBIA
KOSOVO IS SERBIA
KOSOVO IS SERBIA
KOSOVO IS SERBIA

HellaSerbia

pre 8 godina

LOL this thread is indeed as funny as I was told! The non-Serbs and the non-Greeks here are totally clueless! They don't know what they are talking about! Jesus Christ! Why are they posting comments if they are totally unfamiliar with the topic? And do they actually believe that any of us here will bother to reply?? Jesus Christ!

Don't fall on your Press' trap, brothers. The same is happening in Greece these days, there are several articles against Serbia, because that's the only way for our pro-EU Press to justify what our traitor Minister did to you. But Tsipras knows very well that Greece cannot recognize Kosovo, because if that ever happens the peace in Greece will be at stake.

The bond between us is sealed with our ancestors' blood and each nation's sacrifice for the other nation's freedom. And this didn't happen just once or twice in our history, this IS our history. Those Westerners and their dogs (Albanians) cannot understand this, because they've never felt like that for anyone and no one ever felt like that for them. But Serbs and Greeks know better.

Kosovo is Serbia and will always be Serbia for the Greeks.

Joni

pre 8 godina

How desperate people are you Serbs!! Really! Looked you here! Too much unexpected Greeks!
When your own slavic blood don't love you, you think the Greeks will love you just because you share the same religion with them ??? Lie yourself!!!
*Do you know what recently a Greek told to me ?
That they were lucky to not have Serbs like neighbours, and that Albania was always the shield of Greece, if not they will have the same problems like other Serbs neighbors. That the Albanians and Serbs are the two most stubborn peoples in Balkan and i agree with that...
* To all the ignorants Serbs, just for your own culture: ask a Greek what is "Methodija"??

No matter how much clashs we had in our history we always were able to overcome the problems with each other.. Look a little how much Albanians are honored in Greece.
Look a little the Greek minority in Albania...
The Archbishop of Orth. Church in Albania is a Greek origin.
And i have no prob. with that as much as he love my country and Albanian orthodoxs.
Chameria is going to be resolved - is the only issue that generates hate between Albanians and Greeks.
End of the discussion! And about the Kosovo - i think Greece have the ~ the same prob with Cyprus so it will take time.
The first step was made!
I'm satisfied with this!

Ellada Serbia Orthodoxia

pre 8 godina

41 year sago, on 20/07/1974, the Turkish Army invaded Cyprus. 41 years later? The Turks in northern Cyprus can't get independence. THIS IS YOUR FUTURE, ALBANIANS!

The biggest irony is that even the Turks in Cyprus (northern Cyprus) refuse to recognize Kosovo! Ahahahahahahaha!

Support and love from Cyprus and Greece to one of the bravest and kindest nations in the world, the Serbian nation. Kosovo is Serbia

Reader

pre 8 godina

"If Tsipras ever tries to recognize Kosoovo, we will impale him, crawl his body to Cyprus, bury him and write on his gravestone "OXI"!"
(irini, 18 July 2015 18:19)

Apart from the colorful (Serbian-orthodox-church-priest-like) gore, I am having a deja vu. You just said OXI irini, 61% of OXI right? People were dancing in the streets. Hand in hand. Greek flags were flying, plates were being broken by the millions. And then what happened next? What did Tsipras do after your OXI? More exactly, where did he put your OXI? :)

irini

pre 8 godina

@ Reader

Dear Reader, I don't think you have any idea about the Greek nation, so you use specific reactions (or lack of reactions) that come from the Greek nation regarding very specific things, in order to interpret our reactions regarding very different things. You don't know how we feel about Serbia, you don't know what we did for them in the '90s, you don't know how much we willingly risked Greece's political stability in 1999. In 1999 B. Clinton stated in the Congress that he wanted to bomb Serbia, because "such an action could implicate Greece and Turkey in a war between them and that would benefit the American interests". He said it like that! And yet we forced our government to support Serbia, though Greece's interest was to stay neutral. This is what we do when Serbia gets victimized. The riots we had in Greece from 2009-2015 are 10% of what we did in 1999. So don't use our reaction regarding our PM's after-referendum decision, in order to interpret how far we would go for Serbia. These are two different things and I can't explain them to you right here right now, because only Greeks and Serbs understand (you are British, right?). And "the colorful (Serbian-orthodox-church-priest-like) gore" as you called it is not Serbian, it's related to what Ottomans did to ALL Orthodox. Serbs know why I chose impaling as Tsipras' punishment. Reader, you seem very nice, but you lack info. Only Serbs can understand 100% the message that a Greek sends to them. Take care!

Reader

pre 8 godina

"The bond between us is sealed with our ancestors' blood and each nation's sacrifice for the other nation's freedom. "
(HellaSerbia, 20 July 2015 02:07)

LOL, the only time Greece and Serbia shared a border was during the second Balkan War. In that time that bond you talk about consisted of fighting with each other over who can get one more strip of land from Macedonia and of who can kill more natives than the other. Had you been sharing a border now, you would not be talking like this, I guarantee it :).

Reader

pre 8 godina

(irini, 20 July 2015 04:14)

LOL irini, I can only iterate what icj1 said. So if Tsipras raises the VAT to 23%, cuts pensions and employment even more, raises the retirement age by a lot, sends entire Greek families to starvation and many to suicide, you won't do anything. But if he dares recognize Kosovo, you will do to him things come out from the dark ages from the booboo scary ottomans. Got it :).

Irini, if my memory is right, the Greek government did not do anything in 1999 to stop the war on Serbia. You may have gone to the streets to protest, just like you voted 61% OXI and partied afterward, but all of that was useless. There is a mechanism of consensus in NATO, where they have to unanimously agree on some of the actions they take. That means, every single country has veto power. Since the war in 1999 against Milosevic's brutal regime happened, guess what Greece's vote was back then. :)

icj1

pre 8 godina

All Greeks are anti-americans
(Corfu island, 19 July 2015 15:05)

A friend of mine who is Greek is not anti-american. So the above is a lie. Advice for you: be very careful when using absolute words like "all", "never", "always", etc... You can very easily be proved being a liar :)
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but the voters of Tsipras' political party have the strongest anti-american voice in Greece. If Tsipras betrays Serbia, he is done.
(Corfu island, 19 July 2015 15:05)

Really?! So, Greeks care more about Serbia than Greece! According to you, Greeks make decisions about their Prime Minister not based on what he does about Greece, but what he does about Serbia!!!

I'm so entertained reading the comments in this topic. It looks like we have many Serbs writing as Greeks and that's very easy to see because actual Greeks would care first about themselves, their families, their children, Greece and then perhaps about Serbia...

irini

pre 8 godina

"LOL, the only time Greece and Serbia shared a border was during the second Balkan War. In that time that bond you talk about consisted of fighting with each other over who can get one more strip of land from Macedonia and of who can kill more natives than the other. Had you been sharing a border now, you would not be talking like this, I guarantee it :)."

Dear Reader, though this was not a reply to my post, let me repeat, you have no idea what this Greek comment means. The word bond is not the synonymous of the word border. If you really want to use our history to interpret our comments and the way Greeks and Serbs talk to each other, you are going to have to learn our history first. And you don't.

In reply to your reply to me, I suggest you learn first how Greece helped Serbia from 1991 to 2003 and then you can post comments to discuss it with Greeks or Serbs. Unless of course you are not here to discuss, but only to express your hate to Serbia or whoever.
In any case Reader, take care, stay well and keep in mind that we support Serbs! And if you knew Serbs well, you would know why! Bye!

KOSOVO IS SERBIA! Greetings from Thessaloniki (Solun) to all Serbs ! xxx

MMM

pre 8 godina

Modern greece doesn't have any connection with old hellenic history. they were Hellenic cities...not "greek" the modern greek identity is not based from a collection of preserved heritage as the Albanians. your identity and history is based only on the Abrahamic religion of orthodoxy. no one in the history of Europe have ever defined themselves as "greeks" other than the modern romioi population inhabiting the modern greek state after 1830. to our beloved neighbours watch the lecture by the brilliant history professor Maria Efthimiou from the University of Athens. you can see for yourself that Albanians were among the most important influential element of the creation of the modern "greek" state. she clearly states that Albanians were among the majority population in all major cities and that the Albanian language is among the oldest languages in Europe.

RK

pre 8 godina

"Serbia has asked an explanation from Greece"


Leave them alone for a while! For the time being they cannot tell "B" from broomstick.

(RK, 16 July 2015 09:52)

WHAT I SAID LEAVE THEM ALONE !

carpe diem

pre 8 godina

Maybe the Balkans should have never separated from Turkey after all.
Turkey would be today a true modern and powerful state run mainly by Balkan people and balkan people wont be at each others throat so often. Life in the balkans was always better under the Ottomans than under any other empire. The best Western Europeans will do is pillage the balkans and go home.

allfailed

pre 8 godina

And what state aren't a failed one at the Balkans. Slavs used a turkish currency dinar, Albanians are a complete joke and this greeks such as Tsipras are Christian Turks.

Mendo

pre 8 godina

@Alexandros,

Your beloved orthodox brothers make you proud because of what? Maybe coz they went berserk killing people or shall I say mostly Muslims if it makes you more happy, pathetic I woul call your comment.

scepticism

pre 8 godina

The person/ idiot who currently holds the position of minister of foreign affairs of Greece certainly DOESN'T express the feelings of Greek people.

There is no way for Greek people to accept the recognition of a monkey state like kosovo. We, Greek nationalists, consider albanians as our enemy and Serbs are our brothers. As clear as this.

Someone has to say to the employee of the ministry of foreign affairs who currently receives his salary by being "minister" that not all of us are leftists and not not all of us are idiots.

Enough with the monkeys

Kosovo IS Serbia

Azir

pre 8 godina

@ Elena the Poor Greek ignorant:

Kosova has 111 nations of the world that doesn't agree with you and your co defendants in. Serbia.

Greece will recognize Kosova just ask Germany the country you have to kiss ass to have some money for food.

You nearly bankrupt and if it wasn't for your traditional begging EU would of tossed your lazy good for nothing ass out of their earned organization .

Greece is in need of our friendship more than we need you.
Who knows if matters get worse we can possibly feed you and help you find shelter....peasants😊

carpe diem

pre 8 godina

Maybe the Balkans should have never separated from Turkey after all.
Turkey would be today a true modern and powerful state run mainly by Balkan people and balkan people wont be at each others throat so often. Life in the balkans was always better under the Ottomans than under any other empire. The best Western Europeans will do is pillage the balkans and go home.

the truth

pre 8 godina

Greek Ambassador to Serbia Constantine Economides has said that his country does not recognize the unilaterally declared independence of Kosovo.

Who cares what the ambassador is saying, since Greek gov. is not impeding Kosova in any way and also doing a lot of business +supporting Kosova gov. in every way possible. Now , can Serbia read between lines or what!????

Mel

pre 8 godina

Greeks, Albanians, Serbs, you are all the same people. Genetically and even culturally. To an outsider you look the same, you act the same and fire up in long conversations of superiority to the neighbors just the same. Keep the fight up, and more powerful countries will do with you as they wish. You are your own demise!

I've visited all three countries on vacation and had a great time! I must add the balkan non-sense is hard to grasp!

Cheers,
Mel
from USA

allfailed

pre 8 godina

And what state aren't a failed one at the Balkans. Slavs used a turkish currency dinar, Albanians are a complete joke and this greeks such as Tsipras are Christian Turks.

Elena, Greece

pre 8 godina

Poor Albanians, you were happy for one whole day, hahaha! I was reading your comments yesterday and I must admit I laughed a lot! You really thought Greece would recognize a pseudo-State, didn't you? Poor Albanians, naïve and idiots as always! It must be your genes or the stash you smoke! Well I have news for you, Tsipras made statements yesterday and he stated CLEARLY that Greece does NOT recognize Kosovo and that this is a FIXED position for Greece. Moreover, if Greece ever accepts to have an office of Kosovo in Greece, that office will not be an Embassy!
Just because no one ever loved you Albanians (and no one ever will), it doesn't mean that no one loves Serbs! We do! And we ALWAYS will. And keep in mind that Tsipras' days are OVER in the Ministry of the Hellenic Republic. He is counting days. And if you want to know how much we love Serbs and how we feel about Kosovo and Metohija, watch this and educate yourselves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFhyYnUQ9pI
PS: Serbian brothers, take Vucic' government down ASAP. It's him you should worry about, not Greece.

carpe diem

pre 8 godina

The way things are going, Greece is fast becoming a failed state worse than Kosovo. Greeks are just a bunch of hellenised serbs , turks and albanians who pretend to be the grandsons of Socrates. They are the most artificial and fake creation in the Balkans, have subverted ancient greece history for themselves and continue to have a standard of living for as long as they are able to find naive countries to lend them money that will never be paid back. If one considers Greece's debt, they real standard of living and GDP is similar to Serbia or Albania.

Guest

pre 8 godina

Greece indeed is trying to figure out a way to recognize Kosovo for her personal interest. "Under Pressue" is a great way out for Greece. They get their share internationally, and save friendship with serbia. Greece could careless about a new country that cannot seem to stand on its own two feet. However, Greece also has lost its balance of her feet and can use this opportunity to show the international community, mainly EU that Greece is willing to contribute to EU's values and ideas of peace of stability in Balkan area. Serbia will be upset, but it will get over it eventually as it did with montenegro and macedonia.

serbianiq89

pre 8 godina

Elena, that is funny considering how average national IQ of Greece is 92. You might think that you are clever with your tax evasion, ponzi schemes and bailout scams, but I assure you that you greeks are one of the most hated people in Western Europe.

Alexandros

pre 8 godina

I am Greek, just like every other Greek I have special feelings for Serbia and moreover I want Greece to support Serbia on Kosovo, because Albanians have no right to claim Serbian land. Needless to say that I am not going to support or vote a Greek political party that sides with Albania. However, I read several Serbian comments lately regarding the (irrefutably awful) comments of the Greek Minister Kotzias. Before Serbs judge Greece, they have to remember that Greeks were the ONLY allies they had in their most difficult times. We risked peace and stability in Greece to support you and in 1995 Serbia stabbed us in the back. Whoever recognizes the name Macedonia, recognizes FYORM's territorial claims over Greece. Dacic expects explanation from Athens regarding the Kotzias statements, while at the same time Dacic supports FYROM's accession in the EU and NATO (while Greece doesn't). Not to mention the statements of Nikolic and Irinej about FYROM and Greece..Where were you last year Serbs when Nikolic made those statements? How come I didn't see a single Serb posting a comment against Nikolic? If Serbia wants allies, Serbia needs to start acting as an ally.

I am saying all that with love and only love for the bravest nation in the world during the '90s, for our beloved brothers who made us proud so many times in the past and who will always care for, regardless politics and politicians.

Kosovo is SERBIA.

Free

pre 8 godina

I think that Greece has billons of "euro problems" more interesting to think about. And now they finally reached the Agreement with Troika, i don`t think challenging EU internal policy is the best for Greece.

I doubt if Greek people really care about Kosovo recognition, but even those who are so "philoserbian" to have to worry about Kosovo recpgnition more than their internal problems does it really matters what they think?

Kosovo recognition is a political decision, and has nothing to do with any feeling, interest only.

And having a strong "proserb" possition over Kosovo is not Greece`s best interest.

Mendo

pre 8 godina

@Alexandros,

Your beloved orthodox brothers make you proud because of what? Maybe coz they went berserk killing people or shall I say mostly Muslims if it makes you more happy, pathetic I woul call your comment.

Too funny

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is Serbia and we know it in Greece. If Tsipras ever tries to recognize Kosoovo, we will impale him, crawl his body to Cyprus, bury him and write on his gravestone "OXI"!

Crcka voli Srbija
(irini, 18 July 2015 18:19)
You supposed Greeks on here are too funny. It is sad if the comments are coming from true Greeks, but chances are they are from Serbs maybe living in Greece, if that!
But as a country, Greece has many many problems today, whether your banks will be open next week, whether you are going to bring home a paycheck, whether the financial picture will improve to where your children will be able to go to college or spend their life in menial jobs with no hope for a future. Or with the ability of its people to easily leave and go somewhere else for a brighter future leaving only the rich and the desolate to be the future Greeks.
But yet should Greece recognize Kosovo, you are going to raise up in the masses. Recognition of Kosovo from Greece is a minor point at this time, when the time comes that it is needed like for EU admission, Greece will come in line if they are still a voting member.
You have your Orthodox religion to bind you together for now. But wait until the Greeks realize that it is inherent that Serbs believe they are the chosen people and Greeks are some sub sect of the religion.

Elena, Greece

pre 8 godina

@ Reader

You are right in what you say, but Tsipras did make statements yesterday. And politicians from the other political parties in Greece made statements too, accusing Kotzias. I don't know why it's not on B92 today, but Tsipras basically repeated the Ambassador's statement and made very clear that Greece's position on Kosovo will not change.

just a note

pre 8 godina

(Elena, Greece, 17 July 2015 04:40
Isn't this the same Elena that tried told the story of how Greece was asked to allow Serbs to live on the Greek bases in Kosovo for protection??? Of course that tale came before she actually checked and would have found out that Greece had never had their own base in Kosovo. Their soldiers primarily housed on one of the US bases. And that it is verifiable that no citizens ever lived on the Kfor bases.
So take her comments as you wish! They are opinions not based on facts to be sure.

Elena, Greece

pre 8 godina

@ Just a note

I'm not sure if that was me, but yes, Greece did protect Serbs in Kosovo-Metohija. And many brutalized Serbian women were brought to the Greek hospitals, because Albanians attacked them and then Kosovo refused hospitalization to them. Don't tell me you've never read a single UNHCR-UNKT report?? And you are posing yourself as what, an expert on Kosovo-Metohija? Hahaha, I bet you are American. It's always the American IQ.
Watch this and learn few things, since obviously you don't like reading. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nHWsWOgtiw
PS: Thessaloniki is the name of a Greek city. So that you can understand the video, cause you Americans need 20 minutes to find Belgium on the map.

just a note

pre 8 godina

(Elena, Greece, 18 July 2015 06:19
A Greek trying to insult an American, it just is not happening my dear. You post is built on lies and propaganda, nothing more, nothing less.
Another year and you will be taking lessons from the Roma on how to beg and swindle!

Andreas

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is Serbia and all Hellenes say it. Solidarity from Greece to our brothers in Serbia. No one here including our Prime Minister will ever support filthy land-thieves, drug dealers, rapists and butchers, and Albanians are all that. Kosovo belongs to Serbs.

Elena, Greece

pre 8 godina

@ rote

We know that Russian brother, but thank you for telling me :-)
PS: Greece and Russia will start drilling the Greek oil in southern Greece in January. It's official ;-)

LOL

pre 8 godina

We, Greek nationalists, consider albanians as our enemy and Serbs are our brothers. As clear as this.
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Reality: most Golden Dawn members the largest so called nationalist group in Greece are Albanians and Arvanites, including head of the women league Nikol Beneki. The list goes on. Not to mention Golden Dawn and Greek National League in 1980: Alvanoi kai Ellines eimaste Ena! albanians and Greeks are one!

Oh and please dont forget the video on youtube from 2012 where amongst other nationalists, Nicholaos Michaloliakos says "Albanians and Greeks have been neighbours for thousands of years..." Search it Νίκος Μιχαλολιακος Αλβανούς.

May seem hard to believe but its all out there so nice try fooling everyone, in reality only fooling yourself :-)

irini

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is Serbia and we know it in Greece. If Tsipras ever tries to recognize Kosoovo, we will impale him, crawl his body to Cyprus, bury him and write on his gravestone "OXI"!

Crcka voli Srbija

Reader

pre 8 godina

"If Tsipras ever tries to recognize Kosoovo, we will impale him, crawl his body to Cyprus, bury him and write on his gravestone "OXI"!"
(irini, 18 July 2015 18:19)

Apart from the colorful (Serbian-orthodox-church-priest-like) gore, I am having a deja vu. You just said OXI irini, 61% of OXI right? People were dancing in the streets. Hand in hand. Greek flags were flying, plates were being broken by the millions. And then what happened next? What did Tsipras do after your OXI? More exactly, where did he put your OXI? :)

RK

pre 8 godina

"Serbia has asked an explanation from Greece"


Leave them alone for a while! For the time being they cannot tell "B" from broomstick.

(RK, 16 July 2015 09:52)

WHAT I SAID LEAVE THEM ALONE !

rote

pre 8 godina

Elena, Greece

Please remember that absolute majority here wish good luck to Greece. So best if you do not provoke them now that nothing is clear. Be patient enough and you will find compassion. Other neighbors of yours are in a little better situation. I personally believe that the initial OXI plan was logical. At least there was a chance … but let’s hope that things will change for better.

Nikos_PAOK_Partizan

pre 8 godina

You Albanians are something else. Did you really believe for one sec that Greece was willing to recognize Serbian land as independent?Seriously?!? If you did, it only proves one thing, that you are desperate. 16 years and you still cry for independence. The biggest cowards in Europe, the only Europeans that sent another country (in fact a whole coalition of countries, i.e. NATO) to fight for their own battles and yet you still can't achieve independence.

Few words to Serbs: (a) If you really know your recent history and all the details about the Greek nation's reaction and help in the '90s, then you should know that the Greek nation can accept a lot, but we will never accept a pro-USA Greek government that backstabs Serbs. I was very surprised to read some Serbian comments these days. Learn your recent history, we gambled Greece for you in the 90s. (b) If you know some basic stuff about Greece's national issues (and be careful, I don't mean only Cyprus), then you know why Greece can never recognize Kosovo. We have our own "Raška" in Greece, if you know what I mean.(c) If a Greek PM turns out to be a traitor and recognizes Kosovo (because a Greek PM who recognizes Kosovo, harms directly Greece's national interests), expect a huge reaction from us. Over our dead bodies, brothers. (d) Did I forget to mention that we hate Albanians and their "greater maps"?
Grcka loves Srbija and not even God can change that. And on top of that we have common interests.

Ivan Belgrade

pre 8 godina

Albanians and other haters no matter how hard you try to spoil relationship between Serbs and Greeks here you will not manage. I understand your envy and hatred toward us its normal for people without tradition, culture, honor,tolerance,people who destroys Serbian cemeteries churches and monesteries centuries old.Good job Albanians you have proved to be top 1 savages of Europe. As i see you estabilished paradise country whose economy is based on human trafficking drugs smugling you can expect beautiful future its so nice to live there that thousands of people leaving Kosovo and Albania.

For Greek brothers big respect and gratefulness for help and support especially during 90's. A lot of us know what have you done for us. We will always be close no matter what. Regards especially for Cyprus, Corfu, Thessaloniki, Crete, Seres, Ioanina, Asprovalta, Lamia and whole Greece from Belgrade. See you soon! Agaph poly aderfia apo thn Veligradi! Ortodoxia aderfia gia panta! Prosexe!

irini

pre 8 godina

"LOL, the only time Greece and Serbia shared a border was during the second Balkan War. In that time that bond you talk about consisted of fighting with each other over who can get one more strip of land from Macedonia and of who can kill more natives than the other. Had you been sharing a border now, you would not be talking like this, I guarantee it :)."

Dear Reader, though this was not a reply to my post, let me repeat, you have no idea what this Greek comment means. The word bond is not the synonymous of the word border. If you really want to use our history to interpret our comments and the way Greeks and Serbs talk to each other, you are going to have to learn our history first. And you don't.

In reply to your reply to me, I suggest you learn first how Greece helped Serbia from 1991 to 2003 and then you can post comments to discuss it with Greeks or Serbs. Unless of course you are not here to discuss, but only to express your hate to Serbia or whoever.
In any case Reader, take care, stay well and keep in mind that we support Serbs! And if you knew Serbs well, you would know why! Bye!

KOSOVO IS SERBIA! Greetings from Thessaloniki (Solun) to all Serbs ! xxx

just a note

pre 8 godina

Too sensitive Belgrade is.

There.They said it.

Now go back to your main job: GROW THE ECONOMY!
(factman, 16 July 2015 15:05)
I agree, much ado about nothing.
But I see great similarities in Greek and Serbian politics, you have one shooting off their mouth one day and then the next you have someone contradicting what was actually said.
But in this case he did not contradict what was said yesterday, he said that what was said was very clear. And it was because he said yesterday that Greece supported Kosovo membership in international organizations and they have done that up to date but he did say that the position on recognition is unchanged.
It was Serbia that tried to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Greek policies have not changed in this administration from the last.
Many of the countries throughout the world have issues with the UDI for their own personal reasons and their failure to recognize Kosovo is not in reality a support for Serbia.

Serbs are our brothers and will always be

pre 8 godina

Tsipras took back Kotzias' words the next day - Greece remains with Serbia's position; will NOT recognize Kosovo

Why didn't B92 publish it? It's been so many days.

Albanians will never be independent. If you can't get independence within 15 years, you will never get it. Albanians sucked it up big time and they know it. Even the Albanian immigrants in Greece make fun of the Albanians in Kosovo.

Kosovo is Serbia and we Greeks know it.

icj1

pre 8 godina

All Greeks are anti-americans
(Corfu island, 19 July 2015 15:05)

A friend of mine who is Greek is not anti-american. So the above is a lie. Advice for you: be very careful when using absolute words like "all", "never", "always", etc... You can very easily be proved being a liar :)
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but the voters of Tsipras' political party have the strongest anti-american voice in Greece. If Tsipras betrays Serbia, he is done.
(Corfu island, 19 July 2015 15:05)

Really?! So, Greeks care more about Serbia than Greece! According to you, Greeks make decisions about their Prime Minister not based on what he does about Greece, but what he does about Serbia!!!

I'm so entertained reading the comments in this topic. It looks like we have many Serbs writing as Greeks and that's very easy to see because actual Greeks would care first about themselves, their families, their children, Greece and then perhaps about Serbia...

MMM

pre 8 godina

Modern greece doesn't have any connection with old hellenic history. they were Hellenic cities...not "greek" the modern greek identity is not based from a collection of preserved heritage as the Albanians. your identity and history is based only on the Abrahamic religion of orthodoxy. no one in the history of Europe have ever defined themselves as "greeks" other than the modern romioi population inhabiting the modern greek state after 1830. to our beloved neighbours watch the lecture by the brilliant history professor Maria Efthimiou from the University of Athens. you can see for yourself that Albanians were among the most important influential element of the creation of the modern "greek" state. she clearly states that Albanians were among the majority population in all major cities and that the Albanian language is among the oldest languages in Europe.

Joni

pre 8 godina

How desperate people are you Serbs!! Really! Looked you here! Too much unexpected Greeks!
When your own slavic blood don't love you, you think the Greeks will love you just because you share the same religion with them ??? Lie yourself!!!
*Do you know what recently a Greek told to me ?
That they were lucky to not have Serbs like neighbours, and that Albania was always the shield of Greece, if not they will have the same problems like other Serbs neighbors. That the Albanians and Serbs are the two most stubborn peoples in Balkan and i agree with that...
* To all the ignorants Serbs, just for your own culture: ask a Greek what is "Methodija"??

No matter how much clashs we had in our history we always were able to overcome the problems with each other.. Look a little how much Albanians are honored in Greece.
Look a little the Greek minority in Albania...
The Archbishop of Orth. Church in Albania is a Greek origin.
And i have no prob. with that as much as he love my country and Albanian orthodoxs.
Chameria is going to be resolved - is the only issue that generates hate between Albanians and Greeks.
End of the discussion! And about the Kosovo - i think Greece have the ~ the same prob with Cyprus so it will take time.
The first step was made!
I'm satisfied with this!

Reader

pre 8 godina

(irini, 20 July 2015 04:14)

LOL irini, I can only iterate what icj1 said. So if Tsipras raises the VAT to 23%, cuts pensions and employment even more, raises the retirement age by a lot, sends entire Greek families to starvation and many to suicide, you won't do anything. But if he dares recognize Kosovo, you will do to him things come out from the dark ages from the booboo scary ottomans. Got it :).

Irini, if my memory is right, the Greek government did not do anything in 1999 to stop the war on Serbia. You may have gone to the streets to protest, just like you voted 61% OXI and partied afterward, but all of that was useless. There is a mechanism of consensus in NATO, where they have to unanimously agree on some of the actions they take. That means, every single country has veto power. Since the war in 1999 against Milosevic's brutal regime happened, guess what Greece's vote was back then. :)

Ellada Serbia Orthodoxia

pre 8 godina

41 year sago, on 20/07/1974, the Turkish Army invaded Cyprus. 41 years later? The Turks in northern Cyprus can't get independence. THIS IS YOUR FUTURE, ALBANIANS!

The biggest irony is that even the Turks in Cyprus (northern Cyprus) refuse to recognize Kosovo! Ahahahahahahaha!

Support and love from Cyprus and Greece to one of the bravest and kindest nations in the world, the Serbian nation. Kosovo is Serbia

Reader

pre 8 godina

"The bond between us is sealed with our ancestors' blood and each nation's sacrifice for the other nation's freedom. "
(HellaSerbia, 20 July 2015 02:07)

LOL, the only time Greece and Serbia shared a border was during the second Balkan War. In that time that bond you talk about consisted of fighting with each other over who can get one more strip of land from Macedonia and of who can kill more natives than the other. Had you been sharing a border now, you would not be talking like this, I guarantee it :).

Gotsefromohrid

pre 8 godina

Reading the comments of albanian posters one wonders whether to laugh or cry.Albania is the most corrupt country in europe and even behind african counties such us timbaktu or bokina faso on the transparency list and albanians are accusing others for being corrupt.what a freeking nerve.

katerina

pre 8 godina

July 20, 1974 - July 20, 2015 and the Turk in northern Cyprus STILL can't get independence. THIS IS YOUR FUTURE, ALBANIANS IN KOSOVO HAHAHA!

Greetings from Cyprus to our Orthodox brothers! We love you!

KOSOVO IS SERBIA
KOSOVO IS SERBIA
KOSOVO IS SERBIA
KOSOVO IS SERBIA
KOSOVO IS SERBIA

HellaSerbia

pre 8 godina

LOL this thread is indeed as funny as I was told! The non-Serbs and the non-Greeks here are totally clueless! They don't know what they are talking about! Jesus Christ! Why are they posting comments if they are totally unfamiliar with the topic? And do they actually believe that any of us here will bother to reply?? Jesus Christ!

Don't fall on your Press' trap, brothers. The same is happening in Greece these days, there are several articles against Serbia, because that's the only way for our pro-EU Press to justify what our traitor Minister did to you. But Tsipras knows very well that Greece cannot recognize Kosovo, because if that ever happens the peace in Greece will be at stake.

The bond between us is sealed with our ancestors' blood and each nation's sacrifice for the other nation's freedom. And this didn't happen just once or twice in our history, this IS our history. Those Westerners and their dogs (Albanians) cannot understand this, because they've never felt like that for anyone and no one ever felt like that for them. But Serbs and Greeks know better.

Kosovo is Serbia and will always be Serbia for the Greeks.

Reader

pre 8 godina

"Serbian Foreign Minister Ivica Dacic said on Thursday he was aware of the pressure Greece is under to recognize Kosovo, but that he believes it would not happen."

Greece is under a lot of pressure about many other things these days. The pressure about recognizing Kosovo is the last of the last priorities in this moment, assuming it even exists. Dacic's request for explanations also will be the last thing the Greeks think about right now. As usual everybody thinks only about themselves and Dacic is no exception. Not a word of solidarity has he said towards the Greek people and government. None that made the media at least. But when Kosovo is involved he brings it up as the central theme. Basically this request for explanations sounds like asking a man in terrible pain who just lost his arms to give you a massage on your left toe. The answer of the Greek ambassador was great: "It was very clear" he said. Meaning, why is Dacic even talking about it, it was clear.

factman

pre 8 godina

Greece will not recognize Kosovo because of Cyprus.

To recognize Kosovo opens the door to the recognition of Turkey's partition of Cyprus.

Ditto Spain, because that means the door is open to the Basques to break off. Romania. Slovakia. China. Russia. etc. It's not so much their love of Serbs (although some are sympathetic), but rather to protect themselves.

At some point (maybe already?) Kosovo runs up against the resistance of other countries who have volatile minorities looking to exploit an opening that will lead to independence for themselves.

Pavlos77

pre 8 godina

"We (Greeks) never forgive - We (Greeks) Never forget - 24.3.1999"

That was the slogan in the latest protest we had in Greece about Kosovo and what NATO did to Serbia in 1999. That protest was held in 2014 (for the 15 years after). Did your nice, objective and politically independent media tell you about it? I bet they didn't.

Kosovo is Serbia - Kosovo je Srbija!

Corfu island

pre 8 godina

Kosovo is Serbia, no Greek will ever recognize a Serbian State as independent! Tsipras will never recognize Kosovo, his voters were throwing Molotov cocktails to NATO spots in Greece in 1999 and they blocked with their cars and trucks all the streets in northern Greece, to prevent NATO from transferring weapons and troops from the NATO Base in Greece to Skopje, because NATO wanted to use the FYROMian land to bomb Serbs. All Greeks are anti-americans, but the voters of Tsipras' political party have the strongest anti-american voice in Greece. If Tsipras betrays Serbia, he is done.

Kosovo is Serbia
Kosovo is Serbia

KOSOVO IS SERBIA!

Hellas, Serbia, Orthodoxy!

we will never betray Serbia

pre 8 godina

"Greek decision not to recognize Kosovo remains unchanged"

OF COURSE.

Kosovo je Serbia, love and support from Greece to the brothers!

irini

pre 8 godina

@ Reader

Dear Reader, I don't think you have any idea about the Greek nation, so you use specific reactions (or lack of reactions) that come from the Greek nation regarding very specific things, in order to interpret our reactions regarding very different things. You don't know how we feel about Serbia, you don't know what we did for them in the '90s, you don't know how much we willingly risked Greece's political stability in 1999. In 1999 B. Clinton stated in the Congress that he wanted to bomb Serbia, because "such an action could implicate Greece and Turkey in a war between them and that would benefit the American interests". He said it like that! And yet we forced our government to support Serbia, though Greece's interest was to stay neutral. This is what we do when Serbia gets victimized. The riots we had in Greece from 2009-2015 are 10% of what we did in 1999. So don't use our reaction regarding our PM's after-referendum decision, in order to interpret how far we would go for Serbia. These are two different things and I can't explain them to you right here right now, because only Greeks and Serbs understand (you are British, right?). And "the colorful (Serbian-orthodox-church-priest-like) gore" as you called it is not Serbian, it's related to what Ottomans did to ALL Orthodox. Serbs know why I chose impaling as Tsipras' punishment. Reader, you seem very nice, but you lack info. Only Serbs can understand 100% the message that a Greek sends to them. Take care!

mina

pre 8 godina

This article is the most popular article amongst Greeks on facebook today. Half of us laugh at those scums who beg every single country to recognize Kosovo and the other half are angry at the Serbian newspapers for not telling you the truth. GREECE WILL NOT RECOGNIZE KOSOVO.
Kosovo is Serbia, greetings from Greece to our brothers! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeX_GcpGGnY

Greeks love Serbs

pre 8 godina

Tsipras stated that "Greece does NOT and will NOT recognize Kosovo". If Tsipras recognizes Kosovo, he will jeopardize peace in Greece. In every country, peace comes first. Whoever believes that Greece might even consider to recognize Kosovo is as dumb as an Albanian (and Albanians are the dumbest in Europe).

There are many groups and pages on facebook about the Greek-Serbian friendship. Find them and become members so that you will have the chance to discuss with us whatever you want.

GREEKS SUPPORT SERBS! YOU ARE OUR BROTHERS, NEVER FORGET THAT!
Kisses and hugs from Thessaloniki (Solun)!

Eirini Thessaloniki

pre 8 godina

In Greece we say "Kosovo is the heart of Serbia".

Our newspapers write that Serbia supports FYROM's membership in the EU and NATO and your newspapers write that Greece supports "Kosovo" 's membership in the EU and NATO. Do you see what's going on?

Tsipras will NOT recognize Kosovo, he made it clear one day after our Minister made the "pro-UCK" statements, as we call them in Greece!

No politician, no EU, no NATO, not even God can injure the Greek-Serbian bond. Greece loves Serbia! Kosovo is the heart of Serbia!