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Wednesday, 08.07.2015.

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German chancellor to meet with top Serbian officials

German Chancellor Angela Merkel is due to arrive in Belgrade late in the afternoon on Wednesday.

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Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

RK, you serbs already destroyed the Habsburg 100 years ago, remember. Frau Merkel isn't going to give you back that wealth your people enjoyed. Habsburgs by the way saved serbs from Bulgarians too. Is there any master whom the noble serbian race has not betrayed.
(neinjawohl, 8 July 2015 12:42) # Comment link

I would love to hear the story where the Habsburgs saved the Serbs from Bulgarian conquest! The real story is that under General Putnik, the Austro-Hungary army was repelled and finally smashed the third time in 1914. The Serbs picked up many abandoned weapons from the retreating Austro-Hungary army under General Poietorek. Two years later, 1916 with the help of German General Macklenburg and the Bulgarians attacking Serbia from the back side, General Putnik retreated through the Albanian mountains and eventually to the island of Corfu.

The Serbs regrouped in the Salonika front and were set loose in the Eastern Front, in a fury they ripped through German, Austrian and Bulgarian lines and liberated Belgrade. At that moment, Bulgaria could have easily capitulated if the Serbs chose to take it.

yeahright

pre 8 godina

Nein nein. Serbs are never responsible for anything. WW1 had nothing to do with serbs wanting to get the wealthy Habsburg lands. Funny thing is that Velika Srbija is actually a British and French sponsored idea. Grey delay decleration of war because he did not want toencourage Serbia, yeah right.

Roger7

pre 8 godina

Neinjawohl said,“you serbs already destroyed the Habsburg 100 years ago, remember”

Dummkopf.

The Serbs are also responsible for Typhoid, Ebola, the Asian Flu and ISIS in Syria.

rote

pre 8 godina

Habsburg save serbs from the turks god knows how many times and you repaid them by killing one of their dukes.

(achtung )


Before 1584 Habsburgs were Horde's ruling dynasty of Novgorod. Before 1613 they ruled the whole world including Turkey. Between 1261 and 1453 the lands much later called Ottoman Empire were ruled by one of the branches of the dynasty. To be exact by the children of Dmitry Donskoy (Murad I) killed on Kosovo Polje in 1389. But because of the conflict inside the Horde in 1444 the Greek Patriarch abandoned Novgorod and flew to Tsar Grad. In 1453 the Great Horde sent troops to seize Tsar Grad/Constantinople and ever since Novgorod branch of the dynasty was at direct helm here. Tsar Grad alwys had big autonomy while both Hordes were headed by the same dynasty. But for a short 30 years period Novgorod and later Moscow were more important so “the Ottomans” payed them money before 1613 when the Romanovs seized the power in Moscovia. So Serbs themselves were “turks” and part of the Horde (one or another) and they needed no shelter from the Ottomans. Their language is much closer to the old "Russian" now than the current Russian. Serbs like Pasha Sokologlu sometimes ruled the Ottomans and were privileged Janissaries and needed no defense. Meanwhile Habsburgs before 1613 were also Slavs. The last one was Ivan IV Grozny.

So I can agree only with your “achtung” nickname.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

After what Mutti Merkel has been through the last few days, she sort of deserves a few hours of sycophantic ass-kissing from Vucic.

rote

pre 8 godina

Neinjawohl

“you serbs already destroyed the Habsburg 100 years ago, remember”


I never knew that Serbs are responsible for the Habsburgs too but I can tell you something.:

“Hab” initially meant Russian “Нав” (навый) while “Burg” was “город” so altogether it meant “Новгород”. The Horde ruling Rurik/Komnin dynasty was living in this city now called Yaroslavl. So Novgorod dynasty was interpreted in Europe as the Habsburgs. First 5 Habsburgs were Russians. Then in late 16 century Horde governors of Permsky Krai ( Austria, part of Germany) started to call themselves Habsburgs to look more legal after their coup. By the way in the old Latin developed on the basis of Slovensky language letter in late 16 century letter “B” was read as sound “v” and it included much more Slav words than the current Latin. For some time the Habsburgs were people from the Horde of Goth-Alanian origin but later they were replaced too while the dynasty name was not changed. Same as with the Windsors. So what is called now the Habsburgs is the third Y-DNA that has nothing to do with the first two. By the way Napoli also means Novgorod. There are thousands of Slav names that has not been wiped off the European maps yet. Though they strived hard. Say Hitler changed about 1100 geographical names of Slav origin and they remained in his version. Horde people always brought names of the places where they came from. So we have California, India, Memphis, Napoli, Catalonia, Galicia , London ect.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

If you want Austria to kiss your feet, than take back all the serbian welfare reciepients from places like Graz and Vienna, or are they only nazis when they are not pouring money on those poor innocent serbs. Habsburg save serbs from the turks god knows how many times and you repaid them by killing one of their dukes.
(achtung, 8 July 2015 12:37)

That's interesting. After Muslims, Serbs are the largest minority in Austria. According to the fastest growing political party in Austria- the FPO, Serbs are actually less likely to be welfare recipients than their Middle Eastern counterparts. Not demonizing them for that, but if we are going to bring up the topic of welfare, Serbs are putting more into Austria than taking out.

Do you really still hold a grudge over Ferdinand? LOL!! He was an occupier, and Gavrilo Princip shot him in his head for freedom.

Why should Austria, Turkey or Germany have a divine right to rule over foreign peoples? How about stop trying to occupy what isn't yours and no one will have to assassinate your leaders.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

Will she go to the sight of the Nazi concentration camps in Banjica, Staro Sajmiste, Topovske šupe and to Sumarice, Kragujevac, Pancevo, to kneel, to recognize genocide, to accept the responsibility for hundreds of thousand of dead, for all the tortured, massacred, poisoned and raped Serbs? Nah.

achtung

pre 8 godina

Ari Gold, most of the Nazis who served at the Balkans were from Austria, Rendulic and Böhme being the most infamous ones. If you want Austria to kiss your feet, than take back all the serbian welfare reciepients from places like Graz and Vienna, or are they only nazis when they are not pouring money on those poor innocent serbs. Habsburg save serbs from the turks god knows how many times and you repaid them by killing one of their dukes.

neinjawohl

pre 8 godina

RK, you serbs already destroyed the Habsburg 100 years ago, remember. Frau Merkel isn't going to give you back that wealth your people enjoyed. Habsburgs by the way saved serbs from Bulgarians too. Is there any master whom the noble serbian race has not betrayed.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

Will she go to the sight of the Nazi concentration camps in Banjica, Staro Sajmiste, Topovske šupe and to Sumarice, Kragujevac, Pancevo, to kneel, to recognize genocide, to accept the responsibility for hundreds of thousand of dead, for all the tortured, massacred, poisoned and raped Serbs? Nah.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

If you want Austria to kiss your feet, than take back all the serbian welfare reciepients from places like Graz and Vienna, or are they only nazis when they are not pouring money on those poor innocent serbs. Habsburg save serbs from the turks god knows how many times and you repaid them by killing one of their dukes.
(achtung, 8 July 2015 12:37)

That's interesting. After Muslims, Serbs are the largest minority in Austria. According to the fastest growing political party in Austria- the FPO, Serbs are actually less likely to be welfare recipients than their Middle Eastern counterparts. Not demonizing them for that, but if we are going to bring up the topic of welfare, Serbs are putting more into Austria than taking out.

Do you really still hold a grudge over Ferdinand? LOL!! He was an occupier, and Gavrilo Princip shot him in his head for freedom.

Why should Austria, Turkey or Germany have a divine right to rule over foreign peoples? How about stop trying to occupy what isn't yours and no one will have to assassinate your leaders.

Roger7

pre 8 godina

Neinjawohl said,“you serbs already destroyed the Habsburg 100 years ago, remember”

Dummkopf.

The Serbs are also responsible for Typhoid, Ebola, the Asian Flu and ISIS in Syria.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

After what Mutti Merkel has been through the last few days, she sort of deserves a few hours of sycophantic ass-kissing from Vucic.

achtung

pre 8 godina

Ari Gold, most of the Nazis who served at the Balkans were from Austria, Rendulic and Böhme being the most infamous ones. If you want Austria to kiss your feet, than take back all the serbian welfare reciepients from places like Graz and Vienna, or are they only nazis when they are not pouring money on those poor innocent serbs. Habsburg save serbs from the turks god knows how many times and you repaid them by killing one of their dukes.

neinjawohl

pre 8 godina

RK, you serbs already destroyed the Habsburg 100 years ago, remember. Frau Merkel isn't going to give you back that wealth your people enjoyed. Habsburgs by the way saved serbs from Bulgarians too. Is there any master whom the noble serbian race has not betrayed.

rote

pre 8 godina

Neinjawohl

“you serbs already destroyed the Habsburg 100 years ago, remember”


I never knew that Serbs are responsible for the Habsburgs too but I can tell you something.:

“Hab” initially meant Russian “Нав” (навый) while “Burg” was “город” so altogether it meant “Новгород”. The Horde ruling Rurik/Komnin dynasty was living in this city now called Yaroslavl. So Novgorod dynasty was interpreted in Europe as the Habsburgs. First 5 Habsburgs were Russians. Then in late 16 century Horde governors of Permsky Krai ( Austria, part of Germany) started to call themselves Habsburgs to look more legal after their coup. By the way in the old Latin developed on the basis of Slovensky language letter in late 16 century letter “B” was read as sound “v” and it included much more Slav words than the current Latin. For some time the Habsburgs were people from the Horde of Goth-Alanian origin but later they were replaced too while the dynasty name was not changed. Same as with the Windsors. So what is called now the Habsburgs is the third Y-DNA that has nothing to do with the first two. By the way Napoli also means Novgorod. There are thousands of Slav names that has not been wiped off the European maps yet. Though they strived hard. Say Hitler changed about 1100 geographical names of Slav origin and they remained in his version. Horde people always brought names of the places where they came from. So we have California, India, Memphis, Napoli, Catalonia, Galicia , London ect.

rote

pre 8 godina

Habsburg save serbs from the turks god knows how many times and you repaid them by killing one of their dukes.

(achtung )


Before 1584 Habsburgs were Horde's ruling dynasty of Novgorod. Before 1613 they ruled the whole world including Turkey. Between 1261 and 1453 the lands much later called Ottoman Empire were ruled by one of the branches of the dynasty. To be exact by the children of Dmitry Donskoy (Murad I) killed on Kosovo Polje in 1389. But because of the conflict inside the Horde in 1444 the Greek Patriarch abandoned Novgorod and flew to Tsar Grad. In 1453 the Great Horde sent troops to seize Tsar Grad/Constantinople and ever since Novgorod branch of the dynasty was at direct helm here. Tsar Grad alwys had big autonomy while both Hordes were headed by the same dynasty. But for a short 30 years period Novgorod and later Moscow were more important so “the Ottomans” payed them money before 1613 when the Romanovs seized the power in Moscovia. So Serbs themselves were “turks” and part of the Horde (one or another) and they needed no shelter from the Ottomans. Their language is much closer to the old "Russian" now than the current Russian. Serbs like Pasha Sokologlu sometimes ruled the Ottomans and were privileged Janissaries and needed no defense. Meanwhile Habsburgs before 1613 were also Slavs. The last one was Ivan IV Grozny.

So I can agree only with your “achtung” nickname.

yeahright

pre 8 godina

Nein nein. Serbs are never responsible for anything. WW1 had nothing to do with serbs wanting to get the wealthy Habsburg lands. Funny thing is that Velika Srbija is actually a British and French sponsored idea. Grey delay decleration of war because he did not want toencourage Serbia, yeah right.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

RK, you serbs already destroyed the Habsburg 100 years ago, remember. Frau Merkel isn't going to give you back that wealth your people enjoyed. Habsburgs by the way saved serbs from Bulgarians too. Is there any master whom the noble serbian race has not betrayed.
(neinjawohl, 8 July 2015 12:42) # Comment link

I would love to hear the story where the Habsburgs saved the Serbs from Bulgarian conquest! The real story is that under General Putnik, the Austro-Hungary army was repelled and finally smashed the third time in 1914. The Serbs picked up many abandoned weapons from the retreating Austro-Hungary army under General Poietorek. Two years later, 1916 with the help of German General Macklenburg and the Bulgarians attacking Serbia from the back side, General Putnik retreated through the Albanian mountains and eventually to the island of Corfu.

The Serbs regrouped in the Salonika front and were set loose in the Eastern Front, in a fury they ripped through German, Austrian and Bulgarian lines and liberated Belgrade. At that moment, Bulgaria could have easily capitulated if the Serbs chose to take it.

achtung

pre 8 godina

Ari Gold, most of the Nazis who served at the Balkans were from Austria, Rendulic and Böhme being the most infamous ones. If you want Austria to kiss your feet, than take back all the serbian welfare reciepients from places like Graz and Vienna, or are they only nazis when they are not pouring money on those poor innocent serbs. Habsburg save serbs from the turks god knows how many times and you repaid them by killing one of their dukes.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

Will she go to the sight of the Nazi concentration camps in Banjica, Staro Sajmiste, Topovske šupe and to Sumarice, Kragujevac, Pancevo, to kneel, to recognize genocide, to accept the responsibility for hundreds of thousand of dead, for all the tortured, massacred, poisoned and raped Serbs? Nah.

rote

pre 8 godina

Habsburg save serbs from the turks god knows how many times and you repaid them by killing one of their dukes.

(achtung )


Before 1584 Habsburgs were Horde's ruling dynasty of Novgorod. Before 1613 they ruled the whole world including Turkey. Between 1261 and 1453 the lands much later called Ottoman Empire were ruled by one of the branches of the dynasty. To be exact by the children of Dmitry Donskoy (Murad I) killed on Kosovo Polje in 1389. But because of the conflict inside the Horde in 1444 the Greek Patriarch abandoned Novgorod and flew to Tsar Grad. In 1453 the Great Horde sent troops to seize Tsar Grad/Constantinople and ever since Novgorod branch of the dynasty was at direct helm here. Tsar Grad alwys had big autonomy while both Hordes were headed by the same dynasty. But for a short 30 years period Novgorod and later Moscow were more important so “the Ottomans” payed them money before 1613 when the Romanovs seized the power in Moscovia. So Serbs themselves were “turks” and part of the Horde (one or another) and they needed no shelter from the Ottomans. Their language is much closer to the old "Russian" now than the current Russian. Serbs like Pasha Sokologlu sometimes ruled the Ottomans and were privileged Janissaries and needed no defense. Meanwhile Habsburgs before 1613 were also Slavs. The last one was Ivan IV Grozny.

So I can agree only with your “achtung” nickname.

neinjawohl

pre 8 godina

RK, you serbs already destroyed the Habsburg 100 years ago, remember. Frau Merkel isn't going to give you back that wealth your people enjoyed. Habsburgs by the way saved serbs from Bulgarians too. Is there any master whom the noble serbian race has not betrayed.

rote

pre 8 godina

Neinjawohl

“you serbs already destroyed the Habsburg 100 years ago, remember”


I never knew that Serbs are responsible for the Habsburgs too but I can tell you something.:

“Hab” initially meant Russian “Нав” (навый) while “Burg” was “город” so altogether it meant “Новгород”. The Horde ruling Rurik/Komnin dynasty was living in this city now called Yaroslavl. So Novgorod dynasty was interpreted in Europe as the Habsburgs. First 5 Habsburgs were Russians. Then in late 16 century Horde governors of Permsky Krai ( Austria, part of Germany) started to call themselves Habsburgs to look more legal after their coup. By the way in the old Latin developed on the basis of Slovensky language letter in late 16 century letter “B” was read as sound “v” and it included much more Slav words than the current Latin. For some time the Habsburgs were people from the Horde of Goth-Alanian origin but later they were replaced too while the dynasty name was not changed. Same as with the Windsors. So what is called now the Habsburgs is the third Y-DNA that has nothing to do with the first two. By the way Napoli also means Novgorod. There are thousands of Slav names that has not been wiped off the European maps yet. Though they strived hard. Say Hitler changed about 1100 geographical names of Slav origin and they remained in his version. Horde people always brought names of the places where they came from. So we have California, India, Memphis, Napoli, Catalonia, Galicia , London ect.

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

If you want Austria to kiss your feet, than take back all the serbian welfare reciepients from places like Graz and Vienna, or are they only nazis when they are not pouring money on those poor innocent serbs. Habsburg save serbs from the turks god knows how many times and you repaid them by killing one of their dukes.
(achtung, 8 July 2015 12:37)

That's interesting. After Muslims, Serbs are the largest minority in Austria. According to the fastest growing political party in Austria- the FPO, Serbs are actually less likely to be welfare recipients than their Middle Eastern counterparts. Not demonizing them for that, but if we are going to bring up the topic of welfare, Serbs are putting more into Austria than taking out.

Do you really still hold a grudge over Ferdinand? LOL!! He was an occupier, and Gavrilo Princip shot him in his head for freedom.

Why should Austria, Turkey or Germany have a divine right to rule over foreign peoples? How about stop trying to occupy what isn't yours and no one will have to assassinate your leaders.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 8 godina

After what Mutti Merkel has been through the last few days, she sort of deserves a few hours of sycophantic ass-kissing from Vucic.

Roger7

pre 8 godina

Neinjawohl said,“you serbs already destroyed the Habsburg 100 years ago, remember”

Dummkopf.

The Serbs are also responsible for Typhoid, Ebola, the Asian Flu and ISIS in Syria.

yeahright

pre 8 godina

Nein nein. Serbs are never responsible for anything. WW1 had nothing to do with serbs wanting to get the wealthy Habsburg lands. Funny thing is that Velika Srbija is actually a British and French sponsored idea. Grey delay decleration of war because he did not want toencourage Serbia, yeah right.

Jugoslavija

pre 8 godina

RK, you serbs already destroyed the Habsburg 100 years ago, remember. Frau Merkel isn't going to give you back that wealth your people enjoyed. Habsburgs by the way saved serbs from Bulgarians too. Is there any master whom the noble serbian race has not betrayed.
(neinjawohl, 8 July 2015 12:42) # Comment link

I would love to hear the story where the Habsburgs saved the Serbs from Bulgarian conquest! The real story is that under General Putnik, the Austro-Hungary army was repelled and finally smashed the third time in 1914. The Serbs picked up many abandoned weapons from the retreating Austro-Hungary army under General Poietorek. Two years later, 1916 with the help of German General Macklenburg and the Bulgarians attacking Serbia from the back side, General Putnik retreated through the Albanian mountains and eventually to the island of Corfu.

The Serbs regrouped in the Salonika front and were set loose in the Eastern Front, in a fury they ripped through German, Austrian and Bulgarian lines and liberated Belgrade. At that moment, Bulgaria could have easily capitulated if the Serbs chose to take it.