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Thursday, 02.07.2015.

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"Fourth version of British draft unacceptable to Serbia"

A new version of Britain's draft resolution on Srebrenica that has been "additionally softened compared to the third" is unacceptable to Serbian authorities.

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Azir

pre 8 godina

Peggy if one was to utilize Serb "logic" then Nazi's children were also victims of liberators military success.

Does Germany beg for universal sympathy for their lost war mongering national policy past?

Atleast Germany. Accepted responsibility and ended living a misrable life of denial as the Serb continue to.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

It shows how messed up you are Peggy that you think executing a 14 year old boy (even if he were armed before, it should never be done) is fair game. however, the youngest victim at Srberencia was even younger than 14. We sure have a lot of sick twisted individuals here.
(Nikolle, 3 July 2015 14:44)
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You call me sick and twisted for not showing remorse but when Serbian children are slaughtered and even now are attacked by Albanians all we get is how it's payback and Serbs deserve it.
When did you ever condemn you fellow Albanians for making those statements and calling them sick and twisted? That's why I keep saying that some lives are worth more than others.
Hypocritical much?

Peggy

pre 8 godina

I have never seen you say one word of remorse about how criminal it was to slaughter Serbian children so why do you want us to express remorse for yours?
(Peggy, 3 July 2015 14:07)

IT IS CRIMINAL AND SICK TO SLAUGHTER ANY CHILD REGARDLESS OF ETHNICITY! I don't distinguish by ethnicity...
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I think you do becaue you have never once expressed feeling bad for Serbian children who were killed. If you have please present proof.

Could it be that some lives are worth more than others?
(Peggy, 3 July 2015 14:07)

Not for me... For you, yes! You have no regard for innocent lifes since you are advocating the extermination of every boy alive because one day they might fight in a Mulsim army
(icj1, 3 July 2015 16:36
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Twisting my words as usual. The fourteen year olds in Srebrenica not all Muslim fourteen year old boys. You see, women and children were allowed to leave it was only the ones who were deemed to be in action who would have been killed. Blame the grownups who put them in harm's way.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

It shows how messed up you are Peggy that you think executing a 14 year old boy (even if he were armed before, it should never be done) is fair game. however, the youngest victim at Srberencia was even younger than 14. We sure have a lot of sick twisted individuals here.
(Nikolle, 3 July 2015 14:44)
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Serbs obviously tried to sift through the population and spare the civilians and innocents. Nothing is perfect and things can still go wrong. If some innocent people or teenagers we killed I do regret that but a war was raging then.
Tell me, when did you express any regret for innocent Serbian civilians around Srebrenica who were butchered by Oric and his men and boys? When? You call me sick and twisted for not shedding tears for your dead but when it's our dead we talk about all we ever get from the likes of you is how it was payback and Serbs deserved it.
Ever considered that this was also payback but at least Serbs tried to spare some of you?
So do tell me how you think Bosnians and Albanians need to be brough to justice and how horrible those massacres were done against the Serbs. What, there were none or it way payback?

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Really in Australia you have seen this or maybe you have heard of this happening? I really doubt you have seen with your own eyes any such thing. And the problem with what you have heard is who you are hearing it from.
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I've seen photos of Muslim 14 year olds in iniform and with guns. Muslim teenagers have taken part in executions. There is documented proof of that. So I think I will trust what I see with my own eyes. Are you perhaps saying that photos lie?


" You and others keep talking about the Serb children that have been killed but I have not seen anyone present proof. And then you refer to a 14 year old Serb as a child and a 14 year old muslim as an armed combatant."
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Again, there are photographs of Serbian children who were not only killed but tortured first. You seem to think that I should've been there to see it all firsthand if I want to comment but unless you were in Srebrenica at the time and saw who and how many were being killed you should not be commenting either. How do you know? You were told by someone? So if I am to take photos and testemonies as enough then you shoudl as well.

On the issue of organ harvesting by KLA, are you calling Carla Del Ponte a liar? Is Mr Marty calling for an investigation because he is bored and needs something to do? It wasn't the Serbs who made the accusations alone. Carla did too and she was in a great position to know a lot more than you do.

Dragan

pre 8 godina

This "British draft" should be filed away in the trash bin where it belongs
(Yeah right, 3 July 2015 00:12)

Actually, it should be used as toilet paper. The whole purpose of that obscenity is to once again demonize Serbia and whitewash the real war criminals - NATO, Bosnian islamists, and the croat nazis (German lapdogs). I suggest for people who want to see an example of REAL genocide to google the word 'Jasenovac', and they will see it.
Also, keep this in mind people, the same scoundrels who are writing this anti-Serb resolution are the ones who released disgusting butcher and war criminal Naser Oric. http://1389blog.com/2011/06/06/bosnian-muslim-mass-murderer-naser-orics-greatest-hits/ . They are not our friends, they are in fact liars and war criminals. Thank God for Russia.
Cheers!!

Danilo

pre 8 godina

When you find yourself arguing that the 14 year olds founds slaughtered with their hands tied behind their backs in mass graves were fair game because they were vulnerable to be used as child soldiers, it's time to ask yourself either when you lost sight of your moral centre or whether you ever had one in the first place.

So wrong Peggy.

pre 8 godina

Yes, I've seen Muslims give guns to kids younger than that and also expect them to kill.
(Peggy, 3 July 2015 14:09
Really in Australia you have seen this or maybe you have heard of this happening? I really doubt you have seen with your own eyes any such thing. And the problem with what you have heard is who you are hearing it from. We have heard many many times on this forum that the KLA kidnapped Serbs and harvested their organs but to date NO ONE has been able to show credible evidence it happened. I have heard you describe how Serbs in Kosovo live in ghettos and behind barb wire fences. But the truth is Serb villages and Albanian villages are basically the same. Some historic patrimonial sites are located behind barb wire but not people. You and others keep talking about the Serb children that have been killed but I have not seen anyone present proof. And then you refer to a 14 year old Serb as a child and a 14 year old muslim as an armed combatant.
Read the following:
http://www.icty.org/x/file/Outreach/view_from_hague/jit_srebrenica_en.pdf

Nothing you say can refute what was found by the ICTY

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

"You seem to be unable or unwilling to put this in the context in which it occurred. "

The very fact that you use words context shows that you yourself partially justify the execution of 8000+ men. It is like saying the attempt to exterminate the Jewish population of Europe has to be put into context, the context of which was Nazi lies, bigotry, hatred and the brainwashing of an entire population to hate and to wish to murder their fellow citizens albeit of a different faith. No sunshine, we are not talking 8000 men killed in battle, we're talking about 8000 captured individuals shot point blank.
As for this: "But the truth will come out, mark my words. " this is just you dabbling in conspiracies, nothing else

Jeff

pre 8 godina

If you read my posts, it clearly is not alright to kill 14 year old boys. I have said it time and again. As it is not alright to behead or crucify innocent civilians.
You seem to be unable or unwilling to put this in the context in which it occurred. Doesn't make it right.
Listen, I understand if the whole truth is exposed it will be a bad day for the liars and manipulators. The tragedy is the gift that keeps on giving for trolls like yourself. But the truth will come out, mark my words.
We have taken our medicine, it is time for others to take theirs.

icj1

pre 8 godina

If you read my posts, it clearly is not alright to kill 14 year old boys. I have said it time and again. As it is not alright to behead or crucify innocent civilians. You seem to be unable or unwilling to put this in the context in which it occurred. Doesn't make it right.
(Jeff, 3 July 2015 16:02)

The context does not matter... It is sick to slaughter na helpless 14yo boy of whatever ethnicity, whether by shooting or beheading. It is just sick. There is no ifs and buts or context or non-context
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Listen, I understand if the whole truth is exposed it will be a bad day for the liars and manipulators. The tragedy is the gift that keeps on giving for trolls like yourself. But the truth will come out, mark my words.
We have taken our medicine, it is time for others to take theirs.
(Jeff, 3 July 2015 16:02)

The truth has already been exposed by the UN http://www.icty.org/x/file/Outreach/view_from_hague/jit_srebrenica_en.pdf Whether you like it or not, it's immaterial since you are a nobody compared to the UN. You are free though to choose living in denial because you don't like the truth...

icj1

pre 8 godina

Oh, I see... So it was right to slaughter random 14 year old boys because Serbian children children were killed by some mujahideen!!!!.
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Fourteen year old boys are known to fight in a Muslim army so don't give me this innocent cr@p.
(Peggy, 3 July 2015 14:07)

Really?! So all fourteen year old boys should be exterminated because they "are known to fight in a Muslim army"... Thanks again for exponsing your sick mentality!
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I have never seen you say one word of remorse about how criminal it was to slaughter Serbian children so why do you want us to express remorse for yours?
(Peggy, 3 July 2015 14:07)

IT IS CRIMINAL AND SICK TO SLAUGHTER ANY CHILD REGARDLESS OF ETHNICITY! I don't distinguish by ethnicity...
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Could it be that some lives are worth more than others?
(Peggy, 3 July 2015 14:07)

Not for me... For you, yes! You have no regard for innocent lifes since you are advocating the extermination of every boy alive because one day they might fight in a Mulsim army

Pope F

pre 8 godina

The original resolution must be put in place serbs call the unarmed men an children that they killed soldiers an pretend the women were sent to a luxury hotel instead of rape camps. Yet they say all the serb terrorists that were killed were civilians. I'm sure that newborn baby was a soldier too.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

It shows how messed up you are Peggy that you think executing a 14 year old boy (even if he were armed before, it should never be done) is fair game. however, the youngest victim at Srberencia was even younger than 14. We sure have a lot of sick twisted individuals here.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Oh, I see... So it was right to slaughter random 14 year old boys because Serbian children children were killed by some mujahideen!!!!.
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Should the Serbs have kissed them instead? Fourteen year old boys are known to fight in a Muslim army so don't give me this innocent cr@p.
I have never seen you say one word of remorse about how criminal it was to slaughter Serbian children so why do you want us to express remorse for yours? Could it be that some lives are worth more than others?

Peggy

pre 8 godina

ha! no retort to any of my points, you have to assume the mujahideen are my beloved. dear oh dear. a 14 year old is a child Jeff, are you going to tell me he was armed?
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Yes, I've seen Muslims give guns to kids younger than that and also expect them to kill.

icj1

pre 8 godina

now west is pointing finger at massacre that happened upon soldiers in the middle of civil war.
(Alex, 3 July 2015 07:09)

Being in the middle of civil war is not an excuse for slaughtering helpless people at will... By that reasoning, the slaughtering of 6M+ jews by Hitler was in the middle of a war so it was OK!!!!! How do you come up with such trash?! Do you even put your brain in motion before writing!!!
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And also pointing finger at Serbia which was not in Bosnia.
(Alex, 3 July 2015 07:09)

Well, the draft resolution is about remembering an act that the UN has said was genocide. It does not mention Serbia and Serbia has said that it had nothing to do with it. So, I'm not really sure why Serbia is making such a big fuss - in a way it is Serbia that is pointing the finger at itself :)

Lay Off Nik

pre 8 godina

To see the age of the youngest victim use the link below. You might be surprised.

https://iwpr.net/global-voices/srebrenica-burial-youngest-victim-laid-rest

Are you for real?

pre 8 godina

Many were killed in ambushes trying to escape.
You are very naive, or just dishonest, to believe it was all as black and White as you seem to think.
(Jeff, 3 July 2015 12:32)

I emphasize the Many were killed in AMBUSHES TRYING TO ESCAPE!

This is so much better than they were just executed.

icj1

pre 8 godina

No nik. Let me guess 14? How many serbian children were killed by your beloved mujahideen. Crucified, beheaded etc. Again, looking glass stuff. You are so wrapped up in your own bigotry and bias, you have lost all perspective of reality.
(Jeff, 3 July 2015 12:37)

Oh, I see... So it was right to slaughter random 14 year old boys because Serbian children children were killed by some mujahideen!!!!.

Thx mate for explaining your sick mentality - it's useful having people like you to expose the sick thinking that went into the head of those who committed genocide and why they deserved the punishment they got.

End of story

pre 8 godina

No nik. Let me guess 14? How many serbian children were killed by your beloved mujahideen. Crucified, beheaded etc. Again, looking glass stuff. You are so wrapped up in your own bigotry and bias, you have lost all perspective of reality.
(Jeff, 3 July 2015 12:37)
Actually, HOW MANY? Day after day after day you and your peers get on here and spew out unfounded and unsubstantiated rumors of how bad everyone else is, trying to make yourself look less heinous. You generated enough media hype on the organ harvesting to create a 4th international investigation, but yet to date no one has been able to uncover a shred of credible evidence.
Your numbers are so inflated on anything that not only are they impossible to mathematically add up, there is no non Serbian sources of propaganda that support it.
You slaughter thousands and if anyone attempts to fight back, you immediately start screaming "genocide".
The international community builds you a home and equipment to move back to Kosovo you arrive, strip it sell anything of value, move back to Serbia and then in a few months report that Albanians vandalized it.
You claim in Kosovo Serbs are harassed and murdered daily and yet your proof is vandalism at "abandoned and neglected" buildings and cemeteries. You pay people to jump on a bus to attend "religious" ceremonies to provoke a reaction and then cry "ethnic cleansing" and call them savages
Srebrenica was genocide committed by SERBS, supported by SERBIA!

Jeff

pre 8 godina

No nik. Let me guess 14? How many serbian children were killed by your beloved mujahideen. Crucified, beheaded etc. Again, looking glass stuff. You are so wrapped up in your own bigotry and bias, you have lost all perspective of reality.

Jeff

pre 8 godina

You are deluded. Unarmed? Are you having a laugh. Srebrenica was bristling with weapons. Many were killed in ambushes trying to escape. The muslims were well armed.
And nothing heavenly about this tragic event. We certainly don't feel heavenly about it. Those who really benefitted, in the long run, gives you your answer.
You are very naive, or just dishonest, to believe it was all as black and White as you seem to think.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

ha! no retort to any of my points, you have to assume the mujahideen are my beloved. dear oh dear. a 14 year old is a child Jeff, are you going to tell me he was armed? if outlining the truth makes me a bigot then I really don't know what to tell you. you believe that the whole incident was planned to give fodder to NATO to bomb the Serbs and of course, the Serbs knowing this full well, went ahead and killed 8000+ men anyway.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

no end to your delusion eh Jeff? you mean, these heavily armed people were captured soldiers? do you know how old the youngest victim of Srebrenica was? You really are so wrapped up in denial its not even funny.

Jeff

pre 8 godina

You are deluded. Unarmed? Are you having a laugh. Srebrenica was bristling with weapons. Many were killed in ambushes trying to escape. The muslims were well armed.
And nothing heavenly about this tragic event. We certainly don't feel heavenly about it. Those who really benefitted, in the long run, gives you your answer.
You are very naive, or just dishonest, to believe it was all as black and White as you seem to think.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

"The execution of around a thousand soldiers." Soldiers are killed in battle, they're not executed point blank. The murdered were none other than unarmed civilians, they did not have weapons, they did not have means to defend themselves, they were at the mercy of those who had more weapons, those who had captured them. the fact that you honestly believe that they were 'sacrificed' in order to bomb the serbs, shows how deep in denial you are. so the heavenly soldiers knew that a massacre of that kind would bring about NATO bombing but they went ahead and did it anyway?

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

awwww. Poor Serbia :(
(Danilo, 2 July 2015 18:36)

Don't feel bad, Serbia is going to get this manipulative resolution blocked at the UN. pa crkni

Jeff

pre 8 godina

Nik- you're the expert in absolving blame. In your world through the looking glass, serbs were the only ones who committed any crimes. All the others were angels.
And the whole point is Serbia isn't absolving itself of blame. It has admitted an awful crime. The execution of around a thousand soldiers. Those soldiers of course had murdered thousands of civilians, often in the most gruesome way, but we still apologise time and again, accept that it is a stain on our nation, and ask for forgiveness. Not to mention we were the only ones punished for our crimes.
The big difference here is those the muslims killed were civilians, men, women and children, while serbs killed combatants and only men. Morillon had warned time and again srebrenica was at great risk because of the attacks of the Muslims. no one listened. You know why? Because it had been agreed that a terrible event was needed to justify breaking the arms embargo. They were sacrificed. When will you look in the mirror for once, or is the reflection too unpleasant to accept.

Alex

pre 8 godina

Yes it was a massacre much like the ones happening every other day in US. not to mention what British and Spanish conquestadors did to native people of North America, exterminated a WHOLE RACE of Indians.
Slavery etc. West want to go back 20 years how about 200. How about thousands of children killed by NATO bombs in north Africa 1 year ago. now west is pointing finger at massacre that happened upon soldiers in the middle of civil war. And also pointing finger at Serbia which was not in Bosnia. West should learn that Srebrenica massacre was consucted by Bosnians (Bosnian serbs) upon other Bosnians (Bosnian muslims).
West is actually desperate to bring any scapegoat (of course not their own kind, must be orthodox Christians) as west is killing thousands of humans of Islamic religion as we chat here from our armchairs. and how about UK and USA nationals take some responsibility for endless murders that their governmenets relentless pursuit for colonialism and oil wells causing at middle east.

icj1

pre 8 godina

Srebrenica is a LIE. They do NOT have 8,000 Srebrenica Muslim men killed at all.
They are also using the soldiers who died THROUGHOUT the war and many who were NEVER in Srebrenica.
The Srebrenica Muslim dead are their soldiers who fell throughout the war.

There are NO authentic autopsy reports given to the Hague - without the autopsies no one can tell how they died.

A Serbian doctor who had access to the bodies found that most died from explosives - which points to battle deaths.

And the Srebrenican Muslims were given food by the UN, which was in there as of March 1993 - the food went to the Srebrenica ARMY.

The army and the black market controlled all the UN food.

Also, before the UN came the Srebrenica Muslims were carrying out a SCORCHED-EARTH policy of the Serbian villages all around, and they killed the Serb civilians in Srebrenica.

The UN only went to protect the army, which suddenly started losing after it carried out the Christmas massacre on Serbs.

The army got first dibs on the UN food.
(ida, 2 July 2015 22:22)

Nice... that's what your mom told you to put you to sleep?

Have some self-respect for your intelligence before writing the trash above...

roberto

pre 8 godina

Until you deal honestly with the genocides committed by your country of Serbia, in your name, there will never be peace in the Balkans. These games of trying to water down these all too general and all too safe resolutions are idiotic and totally lame. Take responsibility for the past, deal with reparations for survivors, stop making 'cold' war on your neighbors - and you will see how peace and eventually prosperity can return to the ex yugoslavia. It is not an impossible dream...

Azir

pre 8 godina

The only version Serbs would accept might start as such....

Croatians ,Bosnians and Kosovars victims all conspired to commit mass suicide and blame innocent saintly serbs who never did so much as harm a fly...

Mass graves with non serbs is proof Serbs were set up by every intelligent agencies on this planet and beyond.

even The Hague which is controlled by Albanian since the judge wear Black and Red colors of our flag are in it with us ,.....out to blame innocent serb criminals.

When will NATO understand and figure out all dead bodies were really Serbs victims disguised as non Serbs?

Serbs need to see a doctor ,but not Dr. Karadic ,for mental evaluation and treatment.

How pathetic are they and now I see why Jasenovic didn't succeed.

too funny

pre 8 godina

(ida, 2 July 2015 22:22)
Oh well, if ida said it, it must be true!
Case Closed--NOT!

You must be appealing to the "one born every minute" group. That is just a famous saying it has no true basis, except maybe in Serbia.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

I can't understand the fuss,in 1995 ,yes Muslim men and boys where killed after being separated from the females.And yes in 1992,1993 Serbia civilians where killed in the village's. Admit to all the killing in and around the city.

Yeah right

pre 8 godina

Where is the resolution condemning the Bosnian Muslim atrocities or the their illegal succession?
Bosnian Muslim forces were not “victims”, but well-armed and well-supplied military forces that committed horrendous war crimes and crimes against humanity in premeditated and ritual murders of Bosnian Serb civilians.
There were many Islamic Mujahedeen Units, composed of al-Qaeda terrorists and Jihadists who committed war crimes and ritual beheading against Bosnian Serb and Bosnian Croat civilians, 5 of which crashed a plane into New York City on 9/11
There are videos showing the Mujahedeen executing Bosnian Serb POWs in the Bosnian Muslim-run detention camps in central Bosnia.
Numerous Bosnian Muslims such as Enver Hadzihasanovic were sentenced by the ICTY Trial Chamber.
And lets not forget the fact that bin Laden was issued a Bosnian passport, and came to "visit" the Bosnian Muslim President Izetbegovic in the 1990s. This has been corroborated by several journalists from the Guardian, The London Times and Der Spiege!
There is so much evidence and testimony regarding Bosnian war crimes and terrorists atrocities that i dont know where to start!
This "British draft" should be filed away in the trash bin where it belongs

ida

pre 8 godina

Srebrenica is a LIE. They do NOT have 8,000 Srebrenica Muslim men killed at all.
They are also using the soldiers who died THROUGHOUT the war and many who were NEVER in Srebrenica.
The Srebrenica Muslim dead are their soldiers who fell throughout the war.

There are NO authentic autopsy reports given to the Hague - without the autopsies no one can tell how they died.

A Serbian doctor who had access to the bodies found that most died from explosives - which points to battle deaths.

And the Srebrenican Muslims were given food by the UN, which was in there as of March 1993 - the food went to the Srebrenica ARMY.

The army and the black market controlled all the UN food.

Also, before the UN came the Srebrenica Muslims were carrying out a SCORCHED-EARTH policy of the Serbian villages all around, and they killed the Serb civilians in Srebrenica.

The UN only went to protect the army, which suddenly started losing after it carried out the Christmas massacre on Serbs.

The army got first dibs on the UN food.

Just the way it is.

pre 8 godina

Lets face it, while there was not one action in the Bosnian wars every victim of any ethniticity can be traced to actions committed by Serbs either through Serb forces direct action or as retaliation to or defense from Serbian actions.

Serb forces cut off all food and supplies to the surrounding area, what does anyone think would happen. Starving people would invite Serbs in for tea and crumpets???

No resolution that does not praise Serbia for their heinous actions and the rape murder and torture of other groups will ever be "acceptable"
Ever murder in the Balkans in the 90's should be held over the heads of ALL Serbs especially the priests that blessed the murderous savages.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

Serbia gives the impression of a thief who claims to have only stolen once and once only and doesn't want that deed to mark him/her permanently.
This is what is indisputable fact, approximately 8000+ males, having been separated from women , were murdered over a period of 4 days in Srebrenica by Serb militia. There is overwhelming evidence to back this up. The resolution is a resolution on Srebrenica it is not a resolution on the Bosnian war in the same way the Holocaust only deals with the Nazi attempt to wipe the Jewish population from Europe, it does not deal with World War 2. Of course, unlike the heavenly band, the Germans accept their role in that shameful episode and do not seek to absolve themselves from blame.

ida

pre 8 godina

Srebrenica is a LIE. They do NOT have 8,000 Srebrenica Muslim men killed at all.
They are also using the soldiers who died THROUGHOUT the war and many who were NEVER in Srebrenica.
The Srebrenica Muslim dead are their soldiers who fell throughout the war.

There are NO authentic autopsy reports given to the Hague - without the autopsies no one can tell how they died.

A Serbian doctor who had access to the bodies found that most died from explosives - which points to battle deaths.

And the Srebrenican Muslims were given food by the UN, which was in there as of March 1993 - the food went to the Srebrenica ARMY.

The army and the black market controlled all the UN food.

Also, before the UN came the Srebrenica Muslims were carrying out a SCORCHED-EARTH policy of the Serbian villages all around, and they killed the Serb civilians in Srebrenica.

The UN only went to protect the army, which suddenly started losing after it carried out the Christmas massacre on Serbs.

The army got first dibs on the UN food.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

Serbia gives the impression of a thief who claims to have only stolen once and once only and doesn't want that deed to mark him/her permanently.
This is what is indisputable fact, approximately 8000+ males, having been separated from women , were murdered over a period of 4 days in Srebrenica by Serb militia. There is overwhelming evidence to back this up. The resolution is a resolution on Srebrenica it is not a resolution on the Bosnian war in the same way the Holocaust only deals with the Nazi attempt to wipe the Jewish population from Europe, it does not deal with World War 2. Of course, unlike the heavenly band, the Germans accept their role in that shameful episode and do not seek to absolve themselves from blame.

Just the way it is.

pre 8 godina

Lets face it, while there was not one action in the Bosnian wars every victim of any ethniticity can be traced to actions committed by Serbs either through Serb forces direct action or as retaliation to or defense from Serbian actions.

Serb forces cut off all food and supplies to the surrounding area, what does anyone think would happen. Starving people would invite Serbs in for tea and crumpets???

No resolution that does not praise Serbia for their heinous actions and the rape murder and torture of other groups will ever be "acceptable"
Ever murder in the Balkans in the 90's should be held over the heads of ALL Serbs especially the priests that blessed the murderous savages.

Yeah right

pre 8 godina

Where is the resolution condemning the Bosnian Muslim atrocities or the their illegal succession?
Bosnian Muslim forces were not “victims”, but well-armed and well-supplied military forces that committed horrendous war crimes and crimes against humanity in premeditated and ritual murders of Bosnian Serb civilians.
There were many Islamic Mujahedeen Units, composed of al-Qaeda terrorists and Jihadists who committed war crimes and ritual beheading against Bosnian Serb and Bosnian Croat civilians, 5 of which crashed a plane into New York City on 9/11
There are videos showing the Mujahedeen executing Bosnian Serb POWs in the Bosnian Muslim-run detention camps in central Bosnia.
Numerous Bosnian Muslims such as Enver Hadzihasanovic were sentenced by the ICTY Trial Chamber.
And lets not forget the fact that bin Laden was issued a Bosnian passport, and came to "visit" the Bosnian Muslim President Izetbegovic in the 1990s. This has been corroborated by several journalists from the Guardian, The London Times and Der Spiege!
There is so much evidence and testimony regarding Bosnian war crimes and terrorists atrocities that i dont know where to start!
This "British draft" should be filed away in the trash bin where it belongs

icj1

pre 8 godina

Srebrenica is a LIE. They do NOT have 8,000 Srebrenica Muslim men killed at all.
They are also using the soldiers who died THROUGHOUT the war and many who were NEVER in Srebrenica.
The Srebrenica Muslim dead are their soldiers who fell throughout the war.

There are NO authentic autopsy reports given to the Hague - without the autopsies no one can tell how they died.

A Serbian doctor who had access to the bodies found that most died from explosives - which points to battle deaths.

And the Srebrenican Muslims were given food by the UN, which was in there as of March 1993 - the food went to the Srebrenica ARMY.

The army and the black market controlled all the UN food.

Also, before the UN came the Srebrenica Muslims were carrying out a SCORCHED-EARTH policy of the Serbian villages all around, and they killed the Serb civilians in Srebrenica.

The UN only went to protect the army, which suddenly started losing after it carried out the Christmas massacre on Serbs.

The army got first dibs on the UN food.
(ida, 2 July 2015 22:22)

Nice... that's what your mom told you to put you to sleep?

Have some self-respect for your intelligence before writing the trash above...

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

awwww. Poor Serbia :(
(Danilo, 2 July 2015 18:36)

Don't feel bad, Serbia is going to get this manipulative resolution blocked at the UN. pa crkni

So wrong Peggy.

pre 8 godina

Yes, I've seen Muslims give guns to kids younger than that and also expect them to kill.
(Peggy, 3 July 2015 14:09
Really in Australia you have seen this or maybe you have heard of this happening? I really doubt you have seen with your own eyes any such thing. And the problem with what you have heard is who you are hearing it from. We have heard many many times on this forum that the KLA kidnapped Serbs and harvested their organs but to date NO ONE has been able to show credible evidence it happened. I have heard you describe how Serbs in Kosovo live in ghettos and behind barb wire fences. But the truth is Serb villages and Albanian villages are basically the same. Some historic patrimonial sites are located behind barb wire but not people. You and others keep talking about the Serb children that have been killed but I have not seen anyone present proof. And then you refer to a 14 year old Serb as a child and a 14 year old muslim as an armed combatant.
Read the following:
http://www.icty.org/x/file/Outreach/view_from_hague/jit_srebrenica_en.pdf

Nothing you say can refute what was found by the ICTY

Dragan

pre 8 godina

This "British draft" should be filed away in the trash bin where it belongs
(Yeah right, 3 July 2015 00:12)

Actually, it should be used as toilet paper. The whole purpose of that obscenity is to once again demonize Serbia and whitewash the real war criminals - NATO, Bosnian islamists, and the croat nazis (German lapdogs). I suggest for people who want to see an example of REAL genocide to google the word 'Jasenovac', and they will see it.
Also, keep this in mind people, the same scoundrels who are writing this anti-Serb resolution are the ones who released disgusting butcher and war criminal Naser Oric. http://1389blog.com/2011/06/06/bosnian-muslim-mass-murderer-naser-orics-greatest-hits/ . They are not our friends, they are in fact liars and war criminals. Thank God for Russia.
Cheers!!

roberto

pre 8 godina

Until you deal honestly with the genocides committed by your country of Serbia, in your name, there will never be peace in the Balkans. These games of trying to water down these all too general and all too safe resolutions are idiotic and totally lame. Take responsibility for the past, deal with reparations for survivors, stop making 'cold' war on your neighbors - and you will see how peace and eventually prosperity can return to the ex yugoslavia. It is not an impossible dream...

Jeff

pre 8 godina

Nik- you're the expert in absolving blame. In your world through the looking glass, serbs were the only ones who committed any crimes. All the others were angels.
And the whole point is Serbia isn't absolving itself of blame. It has admitted an awful crime. The execution of around a thousand soldiers. Those soldiers of course had murdered thousands of civilians, often in the most gruesome way, but we still apologise time and again, accept that it is a stain on our nation, and ask for forgiveness. Not to mention we were the only ones punished for our crimes.
The big difference here is those the muslims killed were civilians, men, women and children, while serbs killed combatants and only men. Morillon had warned time and again srebrenica was at great risk because of the attacks of the Muslims. no one listened. You know why? Because it had been agreed that a terrible event was needed to justify breaking the arms embargo. They were sacrificed. When will you look in the mirror for once, or is the reflection too unpleasant to accept.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

"The execution of around a thousand soldiers." Soldiers are killed in battle, they're not executed point blank. The murdered were none other than unarmed civilians, they did not have weapons, they did not have means to defend themselves, they were at the mercy of those who had more weapons, those who had captured them. the fact that you honestly believe that they were 'sacrificed' in order to bomb the serbs, shows how deep in denial you are. so the heavenly soldiers knew that a massacre of that kind would bring about NATO bombing but they went ahead and did it anyway?

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

no end to your delusion eh Jeff? you mean, these heavily armed people were captured soldiers? do you know how old the youngest victim of Srebrenica was? You really are so wrapped up in denial its not even funny.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Oh, I see... So it was right to slaughter random 14 year old boys because Serbian children children were killed by some mujahideen!!!!.
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Should the Serbs have kissed them instead? Fourteen year old boys are known to fight in a Muslim army so don't give me this innocent cr@p.
I have never seen you say one word of remorse about how criminal it was to slaughter Serbian children so why do you want us to express remorse for yours? Could it be that some lives are worth more than others?

icj1

pre 8 godina

Oh, I see... So it was right to slaughter random 14 year old boys because Serbian children children were killed by some mujahideen!!!!.
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Fourteen year old boys are known to fight in a Muslim army so don't give me this innocent cr@p.
(Peggy, 3 July 2015 14:07)

Really?! So all fourteen year old boys should be exterminated because they "are known to fight in a Muslim army"... Thanks again for exponsing your sick mentality!
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I have never seen you say one word of remorse about how criminal it was to slaughter Serbian children so why do you want us to express remorse for yours?
(Peggy, 3 July 2015 14:07)

IT IS CRIMINAL AND SICK TO SLAUGHTER ANY CHILD REGARDLESS OF ETHNICITY! I don't distinguish by ethnicity...
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Could it be that some lives are worth more than others?
(Peggy, 3 July 2015 14:07)

Not for me... For you, yes! You have no regard for innocent lifes since you are advocating the extermination of every boy alive because one day they might fight in a Mulsim army

Danilo

pre 8 godina

When you find yourself arguing that the 14 year olds founds slaughtered with their hands tied behind their backs in mass graves were fair game because they were vulnerable to be used as child soldiers, it's time to ask yourself either when you lost sight of your moral centre or whether you ever had one in the first place.

too funny

pre 8 godina

(ida, 2 July 2015 22:22)
Oh well, if ida said it, it must be true!
Case Closed--NOT!

You must be appealing to the "one born every minute" group. That is just a famous saying it has no true basis, except maybe in Serbia.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

ha! no retort to any of my points, you have to assume the mujahideen are my beloved. dear oh dear. a 14 year old is a child Jeff, are you going to tell me he was armed?
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Yes, I've seen Muslims give guns to kids younger than that and also expect them to kill.

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

I can't understand the fuss,in 1995 ,yes Muslim men and boys where killed after being separated from the females.And yes in 1992,1993 Serbia civilians where killed in the village's. Admit to all the killing in and around the city.

Azir

pre 8 godina

The only version Serbs would accept might start as such....

Croatians ,Bosnians and Kosovars victims all conspired to commit mass suicide and blame innocent saintly serbs who never did so much as harm a fly...

Mass graves with non serbs is proof Serbs were set up by every intelligent agencies on this planet and beyond.

even The Hague which is controlled by Albanian since the judge wear Black and Red colors of our flag are in it with us ,.....out to blame innocent serb criminals.

When will NATO understand and figure out all dead bodies were really Serbs victims disguised as non Serbs?

Serbs need to see a doctor ,but not Dr. Karadic ,for mental evaluation and treatment.

How pathetic are they and now I see why Jasenovic didn't succeed.

Jeff

pre 8 godina

You are deluded. Unarmed? Are you having a laugh. Srebrenica was bristling with weapons. Many were killed in ambushes trying to escape. The muslims were well armed.
And nothing heavenly about this tragic event. We certainly don't feel heavenly about it. Those who really benefitted, in the long run, gives you your answer.
You are very naive, or just dishonest, to believe it was all as black and White as you seem to think.

Jeff

pre 8 godina

You are deluded. Unarmed? Are you having a laugh. Srebrenica was bristling with weapons. Many were killed in ambushes trying to escape. The muslims were well armed.
And nothing heavenly about this tragic event. We certainly don't feel heavenly about it. Those who really benefitted, in the long run, gives you your answer.
You are very naive, or just dishonest, to believe it was all as black and White as you seem to think.

Jeff

pre 8 godina

No nik. Let me guess 14? How many serbian children were killed by your beloved mujahideen. Crucified, beheaded etc. Again, looking glass stuff. You are so wrapped up in your own bigotry and bias, you have lost all perspective of reality.

icj1

pre 8 godina

No nik. Let me guess 14? How many serbian children were killed by your beloved mujahideen. Crucified, beheaded etc. Again, looking glass stuff. You are so wrapped up in your own bigotry and bias, you have lost all perspective of reality.
(Jeff, 3 July 2015 12:37)

Oh, I see... So it was right to slaughter random 14 year old boys because Serbian children children were killed by some mujahideen!!!!.

Thx mate for explaining your sick mentality - it's useful having people like you to expose the sick thinking that went into the head of those who committed genocide and why they deserved the punishment they got.

Lay Off Nik

pre 8 godina

To see the age of the youngest victim use the link below. You might be surprised.

https://iwpr.net/global-voices/srebrenica-burial-youngest-victim-laid-rest

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

It shows how messed up you are Peggy that you think executing a 14 year old boy (even if he were armed before, it should never be done) is fair game. however, the youngest victim at Srberencia was even younger than 14. We sure have a lot of sick twisted individuals here.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

"You seem to be unable or unwilling to put this in the context in which it occurred. "

The very fact that you use words context shows that you yourself partially justify the execution of 8000+ men. It is like saying the attempt to exterminate the Jewish population of Europe has to be put into context, the context of which was Nazi lies, bigotry, hatred and the brainwashing of an entire population to hate and to wish to murder their fellow citizens albeit of a different faith. No sunshine, we are not talking 8000 men killed in battle, we're talking about 8000 captured individuals shot point blank.
As for this: "But the truth will come out, mark my words. " this is just you dabbling in conspiracies, nothing else

icj1

pre 8 godina

If you read my posts, it clearly is not alright to kill 14 year old boys. I have said it time and again. As it is not alright to behead or crucify innocent civilians. You seem to be unable or unwilling to put this in the context in which it occurred. Doesn't make it right.
(Jeff, 3 July 2015 16:02)

The context does not matter... It is sick to slaughter na helpless 14yo boy of whatever ethnicity, whether by shooting or beheading. It is just sick. There is no ifs and buts or context or non-context
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Listen, I understand if the whole truth is exposed it will be a bad day for the liars and manipulators. The tragedy is the gift that keeps on giving for trolls like yourself. But the truth will come out, mark my words.
We have taken our medicine, it is time for others to take theirs.
(Jeff, 3 July 2015 16:02)

The truth has already been exposed by the UN http://www.icty.org/x/file/Outreach/view_from_hague/jit_srebrenica_en.pdf Whether you like it or not, it's immaterial since you are a nobody compared to the UN. You are free though to choose living in denial because you don't like the truth...

Alex

pre 8 godina

Yes it was a massacre much like the ones happening every other day in US. not to mention what British and Spanish conquestadors did to native people of North America, exterminated a WHOLE RACE of Indians.
Slavery etc. West want to go back 20 years how about 200. How about thousands of children killed by NATO bombs in north Africa 1 year ago. now west is pointing finger at massacre that happened upon soldiers in the middle of civil war. And also pointing finger at Serbia which was not in Bosnia. West should learn that Srebrenica massacre was consucted by Bosnians (Bosnian serbs) upon other Bosnians (Bosnian muslims).
West is actually desperate to bring any scapegoat (of course not their own kind, must be orthodox Christians) as west is killing thousands of humans of Islamic religion as we chat here from our armchairs. and how about UK and USA nationals take some responsibility for endless murders that their governmenets relentless pursuit for colonialism and oil wells causing at middle east.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

ha! no retort to any of my points, you have to assume the mujahideen are my beloved. dear oh dear. a 14 year old is a child Jeff, are you going to tell me he was armed? if outlining the truth makes me a bigot then I really don't know what to tell you. you believe that the whole incident was planned to give fodder to NATO to bomb the Serbs and of course, the Serbs knowing this full well, went ahead and killed 8000+ men anyway.

icj1

pre 8 godina

now west is pointing finger at massacre that happened upon soldiers in the middle of civil war.
(Alex, 3 July 2015 07:09)

Being in the middle of civil war is not an excuse for slaughtering helpless people at will... By that reasoning, the slaughtering of 6M+ jews by Hitler was in the middle of a war so it was OK!!!!! How do you come up with such trash?! Do you even put your brain in motion before writing!!!
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And also pointing finger at Serbia which was not in Bosnia.
(Alex, 3 July 2015 07:09)

Well, the draft resolution is about remembering an act that the UN has said was genocide. It does not mention Serbia and Serbia has said that it had nothing to do with it. So, I'm not really sure why Serbia is making such a big fuss - in a way it is Serbia that is pointing the finger at itself :)

End of story

pre 8 godina

No nik. Let me guess 14? How many serbian children were killed by your beloved mujahideen. Crucified, beheaded etc. Again, looking glass stuff. You are so wrapped up in your own bigotry and bias, you have lost all perspective of reality.
(Jeff, 3 July 2015 12:37)
Actually, HOW MANY? Day after day after day you and your peers get on here and spew out unfounded and unsubstantiated rumors of how bad everyone else is, trying to make yourself look less heinous. You generated enough media hype on the organ harvesting to create a 4th international investigation, but yet to date no one has been able to uncover a shred of credible evidence.
Your numbers are so inflated on anything that not only are they impossible to mathematically add up, there is no non Serbian sources of propaganda that support it.
You slaughter thousands and if anyone attempts to fight back, you immediately start screaming "genocide".
The international community builds you a home and equipment to move back to Kosovo you arrive, strip it sell anything of value, move back to Serbia and then in a few months report that Albanians vandalized it.
You claim in Kosovo Serbs are harassed and murdered daily and yet your proof is vandalism at "abandoned and neglected" buildings and cemeteries. You pay people to jump on a bus to attend "religious" ceremonies to provoke a reaction and then cry "ethnic cleansing" and call them savages
Srebrenica was genocide committed by SERBS, supported by SERBIA!

Jeff

pre 8 godina

If you read my posts, it clearly is not alright to kill 14 year old boys. I have said it time and again. As it is not alright to behead or crucify innocent civilians.
You seem to be unable or unwilling to put this in the context in which it occurred. Doesn't make it right.
Listen, I understand if the whole truth is exposed it will be a bad day for the liars and manipulators. The tragedy is the gift that keeps on giving for trolls like yourself. But the truth will come out, mark my words.
We have taken our medicine, it is time for others to take theirs.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Really in Australia you have seen this or maybe you have heard of this happening? I really doubt you have seen with your own eyes any such thing. And the problem with what you have heard is who you are hearing it from.
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I've seen photos of Muslim 14 year olds in iniform and with guns. Muslim teenagers have taken part in executions. There is documented proof of that. So I think I will trust what I see with my own eyes. Are you perhaps saying that photos lie?


" You and others keep talking about the Serb children that have been killed but I have not seen anyone present proof. And then you refer to a 14 year old Serb as a child and a 14 year old muslim as an armed combatant."
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Again, there are photographs of Serbian children who were not only killed but tortured first. You seem to think that I should've been there to see it all firsthand if I want to comment but unless you were in Srebrenica at the time and saw who and how many were being killed you should not be commenting either. How do you know? You were told by someone? So if I am to take photos and testemonies as enough then you shoudl as well.

On the issue of organ harvesting by KLA, are you calling Carla Del Ponte a liar? Is Mr Marty calling for an investigation because he is bored and needs something to do? It wasn't the Serbs who made the accusations alone. Carla did too and she was in a great position to know a lot more than you do.

Are you for real?

pre 8 godina

Many were killed in ambushes trying to escape.
You are very naive, or just dishonest, to believe it was all as black and White as you seem to think.
(Jeff, 3 July 2015 12:32)

I emphasize the Many were killed in AMBUSHES TRYING TO ESCAPE!

This is so much better than they were just executed.

Pope F

pre 8 godina

The original resolution must be put in place serbs call the unarmed men an children that they killed soldiers an pretend the women were sent to a luxury hotel instead of rape camps. Yet they say all the serb terrorists that were killed were civilians. I'm sure that newborn baby was a soldier too.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

I have never seen you say one word of remorse about how criminal it was to slaughter Serbian children so why do you want us to express remorse for yours?
(Peggy, 3 July 2015 14:07)

IT IS CRIMINAL AND SICK TO SLAUGHTER ANY CHILD REGARDLESS OF ETHNICITY! I don't distinguish by ethnicity...
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I think you do becaue you have never once expressed feeling bad for Serbian children who were killed. If you have please present proof.

Could it be that some lives are worth more than others?
(Peggy, 3 July 2015 14:07)

Not for me... For you, yes! You have no regard for innocent lifes since you are advocating the extermination of every boy alive because one day they might fight in a Mulsim army
(icj1, 3 July 2015 16:36
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Twisting my words as usual. The fourteen year olds in Srebrenica not all Muslim fourteen year old boys. You see, women and children were allowed to leave it was only the ones who were deemed to be in action who would have been killed. Blame the grownups who put them in harm's way.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

It shows how messed up you are Peggy that you think executing a 14 year old boy (even if he were armed before, it should never be done) is fair game. however, the youngest victim at Srberencia was even younger than 14. We sure have a lot of sick twisted individuals here.
(Nikolle, 3 July 2015 14:44)
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Serbs obviously tried to sift through the population and spare the civilians and innocents. Nothing is perfect and things can still go wrong. If some innocent people or teenagers we killed I do regret that but a war was raging then.
Tell me, when did you express any regret for innocent Serbian civilians around Srebrenica who were butchered by Oric and his men and boys? When? You call me sick and twisted for not shedding tears for your dead but when it's our dead we talk about all we ever get from the likes of you is how it was payback and Serbs deserved it.
Ever considered that this was also payback but at least Serbs tried to spare some of you?
So do tell me how you think Bosnians and Albanians need to be brough to justice and how horrible those massacres were done against the Serbs. What, there were none or it way payback?

Peggy

pre 8 godina

It shows how messed up you are Peggy that you think executing a 14 year old boy (even if he were armed before, it should never be done) is fair game. however, the youngest victim at Srberencia was even younger than 14. We sure have a lot of sick twisted individuals here.
(Nikolle, 3 July 2015 14:44)
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You call me sick and twisted for not showing remorse but when Serbian children are slaughtered and even now are attacked by Albanians all we get is how it's payback and Serbs deserve it.
When did you ever condemn you fellow Albanians for making those statements and calling them sick and twisted? That's why I keep saying that some lives are worth more than others.
Hypocritical much?

Azir

pre 8 godina

Peggy if one was to utilize Serb "logic" then Nazi's children were also victims of liberators military success.

Does Germany beg for universal sympathy for their lost war mongering national policy past?

Atleast Germany. Accepted responsibility and ended living a misrable life of denial as the Serb continue to.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

Serbia gives the impression of a thief who claims to have only stolen once and once only and doesn't want that deed to mark him/her permanently.
This is what is indisputable fact, approximately 8000+ males, having been separated from women , were murdered over a period of 4 days in Srebrenica by Serb militia. There is overwhelming evidence to back this up. The resolution is a resolution on Srebrenica it is not a resolution on the Bosnian war in the same way the Holocaust only deals with the Nazi attempt to wipe the Jewish population from Europe, it does not deal with World War 2. Of course, unlike the heavenly band, the Germans accept their role in that shameful episode and do not seek to absolve themselves from blame.

Just the way it is.

pre 8 godina

Lets face it, while there was not one action in the Bosnian wars every victim of any ethniticity can be traced to actions committed by Serbs either through Serb forces direct action or as retaliation to or defense from Serbian actions.

Serb forces cut off all food and supplies to the surrounding area, what does anyone think would happen. Starving people would invite Serbs in for tea and crumpets???

No resolution that does not praise Serbia for their heinous actions and the rape murder and torture of other groups will ever be "acceptable"
Ever murder in the Balkans in the 90's should be held over the heads of ALL Serbs especially the priests that blessed the murderous savages.

ida

pre 8 godina

Srebrenica is a LIE. They do NOT have 8,000 Srebrenica Muslim men killed at all.
They are also using the soldiers who died THROUGHOUT the war and many who were NEVER in Srebrenica.
The Srebrenica Muslim dead are their soldiers who fell throughout the war.

There are NO authentic autopsy reports given to the Hague - without the autopsies no one can tell how they died.

A Serbian doctor who had access to the bodies found that most died from explosives - which points to battle deaths.

And the Srebrenican Muslims were given food by the UN, which was in there as of March 1993 - the food went to the Srebrenica ARMY.

The army and the black market controlled all the UN food.

Also, before the UN came the Srebrenica Muslims were carrying out a SCORCHED-EARTH policy of the Serbian villages all around, and they killed the Serb civilians in Srebrenica.

The UN only went to protect the army, which suddenly started losing after it carried out the Christmas massacre on Serbs.

The army got first dibs on the UN food.

roberto

pre 8 godina

Until you deal honestly with the genocides committed by your country of Serbia, in your name, there will never be peace in the Balkans. These games of trying to water down these all too general and all too safe resolutions are idiotic and totally lame. Take responsibility for the past, deal with reparations for survivors, stop making 'cold' war on your neighbors - and you will see how peace and eventually prosperity can return to the ex yugoslavia. It is not an impossible dream...

icj1

pre 8 godina

Srebrenica is a LIE. They do NOT have 8,000 Srebrenica Muslim men killed at all.
They are also using the soldiers who died THROUGHOUT the war and many who were NEVER in Srebrenica.
The Srebrenica Muslim dead are their soldiers who fell throughout the war.

There are NO authentic autopsy reports given to the Hague - without the autopsies no one can tell how they died.

A Serbian doctor who had access to the bodies found that most died from explosives - which points to battle deaths.

And the Srebrenican Muslims were given food by the UN, which was in there as of March 1993 - the food went to the Srebrenica ARMY.

The army and the black market controlled all the UN food.

Also, before the UN came the Srebrenica Muslims were carrying out a SCORCHED-EARTH policy of the Serbian villages all around, and they killed the Serb civilians in Srebrenica.

The UN only went to protect the army, which suddenly started losing after it carried out the Christmas massacre on Serbs.

The army got first dibs on the UN food.
(ida, 2 July 2015 22:22)

Nice... that's what your mom told you to put you to sleep?

Have some self-respect for your intelligence before writing the trash above...

Ari Gold

pre 8 godina

awwww. Poor Serbia :(
(Danilo, 2 July 2015 18:36)

Don't feel bad, Serbia is going to get this manipulative resolution blocked at the UN. pa crkni

End of story

pre 8 godina

No nik. Let me guess 14? How many serbian children were killed by your beloved mujahideen. Crucified, beheaded etc. Again, looking glass stuff. You are so wrapped up in your own bigotry and bias, you have lost all perspective of reality.
(Jeff, 3 July 2015 12:37)
Actually, HOW MANY? Day after day after day you and your peers get on here and spew out unfounded and unsubstantiated rumors of how bad everyone else is, trying to make yourself look less heinous. You generated enough media hype on the organ harvesting to create a 4th international investigation, but yet to date no one has been able to uncover a shred of credible evidence.
Your numbers are so inflated on anything that not only are they impossible to mathematically add up, there is no non Serbian sources of propaganda that support it.
You slaughter thousands and if anyone attempts to fight back, you immediately start screaming "genocide".
The international community builds you a home and equipment to move back to Kosovo you arrive, strip it sell anything of value, move back to Serbia and then in a few months report that Albanians vandalized it.
You claim in Kosovo Serbs are harassed and murdered daily and yet your proof is vandalism at "abandoned and neglected" buildings and cemeteries. You pay people to jump on a bus to attend "religious" ceremonies to provoke a reaction and then cry "ethnic cleansing" and call them savages
Srebrenica was genocide committed by SERBS, supported by SERBIA!

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

It shows how messed up you are Peggy that you think executing a 14 year old boy (even if he were armed before, it should never be done) is fair game. however, the youngest victim at Srberencia was even younger than 14. We sure have a lot of sick twisted individuals here.

Jeff

pre 8 godina

Nik- you're the expert in absolving blame. In your world through the looking glass, serbs were the only ones who committed any crimes. All the others were angels.
And the whole point is Serbia isn't absolving itself of blame. It has admitted an awful crime. The execution of around a thousand soldiers. Those soldiers of course had murdered thousands of civilians, often in the most gruesome way, but we still apologise time and again, accept that it is a stain on our nation, and ask for forgiveness. Not to mention we were the only ones punished for our crimes.
The big difference here is those the muslims killed were civilians, men, women and children, while serbs killed combatants and only men. Morillon had warned time and again srebrenica was at great risk because of the attacks of the Muslims. no one listened. You know why? Because it had been agreed that a terrible event was needed to justify breaking the arms embargo. They were sacrificed. When will you look in the mirror for once, or is the reflection too unpleasant to accept.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Oh, I see... So it was right to slaughter random 14 year old boys because Serbian children children were killed by some mujahideen!!!!.
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Should the Serbs have kissed them instead? Fourteen year old boys are known to fight in a Muslim army so don't give me this innocent cr@p.
I have never seen you say one word of remorse about how criminal it was to slaughter Serbian children so why do you want us to express remorse for yours? Could it be that some lives are worth more than others?

Azir

pre 8 godina

The only version Serbs would accept might start as such....

Croatians ,Bosnians and Kosovars victims all conspired to commit mass suicide and blame innocent saintly serbs who never did so much as harm a fly...

Mass graves with non serbs is proof Serbs were set up by every intelligent agencies on this planet and beyond.

even The Hague which is controlled by Albanian since the judge wear Black and Red colors of our flag are in it with us ,.....out to blame innocent serb criminals.

When will NATO understand and figure out all dead bodies were really Serbs victims disguised as non Serbs?

Serbs need to see a doctor ,but not Dr. Karadic ,for mental evaluation and treatment.

How pathetic are they and now I see why Jasenovic didn't succeed.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

"The execution of around a thousand soldiers." Soldiers are killed in battle, they're not executed point blank. The murdered were none other than unarmed civilians, they did not have weapons, they did not have means to defend themselves, they were at the mercy of those who had more weapons, those who had captured them. the fact that you honestly believe that they were 'sacrificed' in order to bomb the serbs, shows how deep in denial you are. so the heavenly soldiers knew that a massacre of that kind would bring about NATO bombing but they went ahead and did it anyway?

Peggy

pre 8 godina

ha! no retort to any of my points, you have to assume the mujahideen are my beloved. dear oh dear. a 14 year old is a child Jeff, are you going to tell me he was armed?
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Yes, I've seen Muslims give guns to kids younger than that and also expect them to kill.

Dragan

pre 8 godina

This "British draft" should be filed away in the trash bin where it belongs
(Yeah right, 3 July 2015 00:12)

Actually, it should be used as toilet paper. The whole purpose of that obscenity is to once again demonize Serbia and whitewash the real war criminals - NATO, Bosnian islamists, and the croat nazis (German lapdogs). I suggest for people who want to see an example of REAL genocide to google the word 'Jasenovac', and they will see it.
Also, keep this in mind people, the same scoundrels who are writing this anti-Serb resolution are the ones who released disgusting butcher and war criminal Naser Oric. http://1389blog.com/2011/06/06/bosnian-muslim-mass-murderer-naser-orics-greatest-hits/ . They are not our friends, they are in fact liars and war criminals. Thank God for Russia.
Cheers!!

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

no end to your delusion eh Jeff? you mean, these heavily armed people were captured soldiers? do you know how old the youngest victim of Srebrenica was? You really are so wrapped up in denial its not even funny.

icj1

pre 8 godina

now west is pointing finger at massacre that happened upon soldiers in the middle of civil war.
(Alex, 3 July 2015 07:09)

Being in the middle of civil war is not an excuse for slaughtering helpless people at will... By that reasoning, the slaughtering of 6M+ jews by Hitler was in the middle of a war so it was OK!!!!! How do you come up with such trash?! Do you even put your brain in motion before writing!!!
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And also pointing finger at Serbia which was not in Bosnia.
(Alex, 3 July 2015 07:09)

Well, the draft resolution is about remembering an act that the UN has said was genocide. It does not mention Serbia and Serbia has said that it had nothing to do with it. So, I'm not really sure why Serbia is making such a big fuss - in a way it is Serbia that is pointing the finger at itself :)

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

"You seem to be unable or unwilling to put this in the context in which it occurred. "

The very fact that you use words context shows that you yourself partially justify the execution of 8000+ men. It is like saying the attempt to exterminate the Jewish population of Europe has to be put into context, the context of which was Nazi lies, bigotry, hatred and the brainwashing of an entire population to hate and to wish to murder their fellow citizens albeit of a different faith. No sunshine, we are not talking 8000 men killed in battle, we're talking about 8000 captured individuals shot point blank.
As for this: "But the truth will come out, mark my words. " this is just you dabbling in conspiracies, nothing else

So wrong Peggy.

pre 8 godina

Yes, I've seen Muslims give guns to kids younger than that and also expect them to kill.
(Peggy, 3 July 2015 14:09
Really in Australia you have seen this or maybe you have heard of this happening? I really doubt you have seen with your own eyes any such thing. And the problem with what you have heard is who you are hearing it from. We have heard many many times on this forum that the KLA kidnapped Serbs and harvested their organs but to date NO ONE has been able to show credible evidence it happened. I have heard you describe how Serbs in Kosovo live in ghettos and behind barb wire fences. But the truth is Serb villages and Albanian villages are basically the same. Some historic patrimonial sites are located behind barb wire but not people. You and others keep talking about the Serb children that have been killed but I have not seen anyone present proof. And then you refer to a 14 year old Serb as a child and a 14 year old muslim as an armed combatant.
Read the following:
http://www.icty.org/x/file/Outreach/view_from_hague/jit_srebrenica_en.pdf

Nothing you say can refute what was found by the ICTY

Danilo

pre 8 godina

When you find yourself arguing that the 14 year olds founds slaughtered with their hands tied behind their backs in mass graves were fair game because they were vulnerable to be used as child soldiers, it's time to ask yourself either when you lost sight of your moral centre or whether you ever had one in the first place.

Yeah right

pre 8 godina

Where is the resolution condemning the Bosnian Muslim atrocities or the their illegal succession?
Bosnian Muslim forces were not “victims”, but well-armed and well-supplied military forces that committed horrendous war crimes and crimes against humanity in premeditated and ritual murders of Bosnian Serb civilians.
There were many Islamic Mujahedeen Units, composed of al-Qaeda terrorists and Jihadists who committed war crimes and ritual beheading against Bosnian Serb and Bosnian Croat civilians, 5 of which crashed a plane into New York City on 9/11
There are videos showing the Mujahedeen executing Bosnian Serb POWs in the Bosnian Muslim-run detention camps in central Bosnia.
Numerous Bosnian Muslims such as Enver Hadzihasanovic were sentenced by the ICTY Trial Chamber.
And lets not forget the fact that bin Laden was issued a Bosnian passport, and came to "visit" the Bosnian Muslim President Izetbegovic in the 1990s. This has been corroborated by several journalists from the Guardian, The London Times and Der Spiege!
There is so much evidence and testimony regarding Bosnian war crimes and terrorists atrocities that i dont know where to start!
This "British draft" should be filed away in the trash bin where it belongs

too funny

pre 8 godina

(ida, 2 July 2015 22:22)
Oh well, if ida said it, it must be true!
Case Closed--NOT!

You must be appealing to the "one born every minute" group. That is just a famous saying it has no true basis, except maybe in Serbia.

Jeff

pre 8 godina

You are deluded. Unarmed? Are you having a laugh. Srebrenica was bristling with weapons. Many were killed in ambushes trying to escape. The muslims were well armed.
And nothing heavenly about this tragic event. We certainly don't feel heavenly about it. Those who really benefitted, in the long run, gives you your answer.
You are very naive, or just dishonest, to believe it was all as black and White as you seem to think.

Jeff

pre 8 godina

You are deluded. Unarmed? Are you having a laugh. Srebrenica was bristling with weapons. Many were killed in ambushes trying to escape. The muslims were well armed.
And nothing heavenly about this tragic event. We certainly don't feel heavenly about it. Those who really benefitted, in the long run, gives you your answer.
You are very naive, or just dishonest, to believe it was all as black and White as you seem to think.

Jeff

pre 8 godina

No nik. Let me guess 14? How many serbian children were killed by your beloved mujahideen. Crucified, beheaded etc. Again, looking glass stuff. You are so wrapped up in your own bigotry and bias, you have lost all perspective of reality.

Nikolle

pre 8 godina

ha! no retort to any of my points, you have to assume the mujahideen are my beloved. dear oh dear. a 14 year old is a child Jeff, are you going to tell me he was armed? if outlining the truth makes me a bigot then I really don't know what to tell you. you believe that the whole incident was planned to give fodder to NATO to bomb the Serbs and of course, the Serbs knowing this full well, went ahead and killed 8000+ men anyway.

icj1

pre 8 godina

No nik. Let me guess 14? How many serbian children were killed by your beloved mujahideen. Crucified, beheaded etc. Again, looking glass stuff. You are so wrapped up in your own bigotry and bias, you have lost all perspective of reality.
(Jeff, 3 July 2015 12:37)

Oh, I see... So it was right to slaughter random 14 year old boys because Serbian children children were killed by some mujahideen!!!!.

Thx mate for explaining your sick mentality - it's useful having people like you to expose the sick thinking that went into the head of those who committed genocide and why they deserved the punishment they got.

icj1

pre 8 godina

If you read my posts, it clearly is not alright to kill 14 year old boys. I have said it time and again. As it is not alright to behead or crucify innocent civilians. You seem to be unable or unwilling to put this in the context in which it occurred. Doesn't make it right.
(Jeff, 3 July 2015 16:02)

The context does not matter... It is sick to slaughter na helpless 14yo boy of whatever ethnicity, whether by shooting or beheading. It is just sick. There is no ifs and buts or context or non-context
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Listen, I understand if the whole truth is exposed it will be a bad day for the liars and manipulators. The tragedy is the gift that keeps on giving for trolls like yourself. But the truth will come out, mark my words.
We have taken our medicine, it is time for others to take theirs.
(Jeff, 3 July 2015 16:02)

The truth has already been exposed by the UN http://www.icty.org/x/file/Outreach/view_from_hague/jit_srebrenica_en.pdf Whether you like it or not, it's immaterial since you are a nobody compared to the UN. You are free though to choose living in denial because you don't like the truth...

Peggy

pre 8 godina

Really in Australia you have seen this or maybe you have heard of this happening? I really doubt you have seen with your own eyes any such thing. And the problem with what you have heard is who you are hearing it from.
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I've seen photos of Muslim 14 year olds in iniform and with guns. Muslim teenagers have taken part in executions. There is documented proof of that. So I think I will trust what I see with my own eyes. Are you perhaps saying that photos lie?


" You and others keep talking about the Serb children that have been killed but I have not seen anyone present proof. And then you refer to a 14 year old Serb as a child and a 14 year old muslim as an armed combatant."
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Again, there are photographs of Serbian children who were not only killed but tortured first. You seem to think that I should've been there to see it all firsthand if I want to comment but unless you were in Srebrenica at the time and saw who and how many were being killed you should not be commenting either. How do you know? You were told by someone? So if I am to take photos and testemonies as enough then you shoudl as well.

On the issue of organ harvesting by KLA, are you calling Carla Del Ponte a liar? Is Mr Marty calling for an investigation because he is bored and needs something to do? It wasn't the Serbs who made the accusations alone. Carla did too and she was in a great position to know a lot more than you do.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

It shows how messed up you are Peggy that you think executing a 14 year old boy (even if he were armed before, it should never be done) is fair game. however, the youngest victim at Srberencia was even younger than 14. We sure have a lot of sick twisted individuals here.
(Nikolle, 3 July 2015 14:44)
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Serbs obviously tried to sift through the population and spare the civilians and innocents. Nothing is perfect and things can still go wrong. If some innocent people or teenagers we killed I do regret that but a war was raging then.
Tell me, when did you express any regret for innocent Serbian civilians around Srebrenica who were butchered by Oric and his men and boys? When? You call me sick and twisted for not shedding tears for your dead but when it's our dead we talk about all we ever get from the likes of you is how it was payback and Serbs deserved it.
Ever considered that this was also payback but at least Serbs tried to spare some of you?
So do tell me how you think Bosnians and Albanians need to be brough to justice and how horrible those massacres were done against the Serbs. What, there were none or it way payback?

sasa.p

pre 8 godina

I can't understand the fuss,in 1995 ,yes Muslim men and boys where killed after being separated from the females.And yes in 1992,1993 Serbia civilians where killed in the village's. Admit to all the killing in and around the city.

Alex

pre 8 godina

Yes it was a massacre much like the ones happening every other day in US. not to mention what British and Spanish conquestadors did to native people of North America, exterminated a WHOLE RACE of Indians.
Slavery etc. West want to go back 20 years how about 200. How about thousands of children killed by NATO bombs in north Africa 1 year ago. now west is pointing finger at massacre that happened upon soldiers in the middle of civil war. And also pointing finger at Serbia which was not in Bosnia. West should learn that Srebrenica massacre was consucted by Bosnians (Bosnian serbs) upon other Bosnians (Bosnian muslims).
West is actually desperate to bring any scapegoat (of course not their own kind, must be orthodox Christians) as west is killing thousands of humans of Islamic religion as we chat here from our armchairs. and how about UK and USA nationals take some responsibility for endless murders that their governmenets relentless pursuit for colonialism and oil wells causing at middle east.

Pope F

pre 8 godina

The original resolution must be put in place serbs call the unarmed men an children that they killed soldiers an pretend the women were sent to a luxury hotel instead of rape camps. Yet they say all the serb terrorists that were killed were civilians. I'm sure that newborn baby was a soldier too.

Jeff

pre 8 godina

If you read my posts, it clearly is not alright to kill 14 year old boys. I have said it time and again. As it is not alright to behead or crucify innocent civilians.
You seem to be unable or unwilling to put this in the context in which it occurred. Doesn't make it right.
Listen, I understand if the whole truth is exposed it will be a bad day for the liars and manipulators. The tragedy is the gift that keeps on giving for trolls like yourself. But the truth will come out, mark my words.
We have taken our medicine, it is time for others to take theirs.

Are you for real?

pre 8 godina

Many were killed in ambushes trying to escape.
You are very naive, or just dishonest, to believe it was all as black and White as you seem to think.
(Jeff, 3 July 2015 12:32)

I emphasize the Many were killed in AMBUSHES TRYING TO ESCAPE!

This is so much better than they were just executed.

Lay Off Nik

pre 8 godina

To see the age of the youngest victim use the link below. You might be surprised.

https://iwpr.net/global-voices/srebrenica-burial-youngest-victim-laid-rest

icj1

pre 8 godina

Oh, I see... So it was right to slaughter random 14 year old boys because Serbian children children were killed by some mujahideen!!!!.
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Fourteen year old boys are known to fight in a Muslim army so don't give me this innocent cr@p.
(Peggy, 3 July 2015 14:07)

Really?! So all fourteen year old boys should be exterminated because they "are known to fight in a Muslim army"... Thanks again for exponsing your sick mentality!
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I have never seen you say one word of remorse about how criminal it was to slaughter Serbian children so why do you want us to express remorse for yours?
(Peggy, 3 July 2015 14:07)

IT IS CRIMINAL AND SICK TO SLAUGHTER ANY CHILD REGARDLESS OF ETHNICITY! I don't distinguish by ethnicity...
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Could it be that some lives are worth more than others?
(Peggy, 3 July 2015 14:07)

Not for me... For you, yes! You have no regard for innocent lifes since you are advocating the extermination of every boy alive because one day they might fight in a Mulsim army

Peggy

pre 8 godina

I have never seen you say one word of remorse about how criminal it was to slaughter Serbian children so why do you want us to express remorse for yours?
(Peggy, 3 July 2015 14:07)

IT IS CRIMINAL AND SICK TO SLAUGHTER ANY CHILD REGARDLESS OF ETHNICITY! I don't distinguish by ethnicity...
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I think you do becaue you have never once expressed feeling bad for Serbian children who were killed. If you have please present proof.

Could it be that some lives are worth more than others?
(Peggy, 3 July 2015 14:07)

Not for me... For you, yes! You have no regard for innocent lifes since you are advocating the extermination of every boy alive because one day they might fight in a Mulsim army
(icj1, 3 July 2015 16:36
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Twisting my words as usual. The fourteen year olds in Srebrenica not all Muslim fourteen year old boys. You see, women and children were allowed to leave it was only the ones who were deemed to be in action who would have been killed. Blame the grownups who put them in harm's way.

Peggy

pre 8 godina

It shows how messed up you are Peggy that you think executing a 14 year old boy (even if he were armed before, it should never be done) is fair game. however, the youngest victim at Srberencia was even younger than 14. We sure have a lot of sick twisted individuals here.
(Nikolle, 3 July 2015 14:44)
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You call me sick and twisted for not showing remorse but when Serbian children are slaughtered and even now are attacked by Albanians all we get is how it's payback and Serbs deserve it.
When did you ever condemn you fellow Albanians for making those statements and calling them sick and twisted? That's why I keep saying that some lives are worth more than others.
Hypocritical much?

Azir

pre 8 godina

Peggy if one was to utilize Serb "logic" then Nazi's children were also victims of liberators military success.

Does Germany beg for universal sympathy for their lost war mongering national policy past?

Atleast Germany. Accepted responsibility and ended living a misrable life of denial as the Serb continue to.