German embassy comments on Srebrenica draft

When are the Serbian victims going to get a resolution?

Lets add a few lines to the Resolution:

Germany and the Vatican, against the wishes of the United States, England, several other European countries and the UN Security Councel unilaterally recognized Slovenia and Croatia's independence.

These actions were done with no consultation of the other constituent parts of the country known as Yugoslavia and in disregard of Belgrade's warning of military response to the dismantling of an internationally recognized country of 22M people.

Soon after this recognition, the republics of the former Yugoslavia fell into Civil War. There were no peackeepers or neutral 3rd parties prepared to enforce.

The UN eventually created safe havens to allow civilians to escape war, but these safe havens were often used as fronts for the delivery of weapons to Bosnian and Croatian military units.

...when commemorating the holocaust.
Comm. Parrisson

What does Srebrenica have to do with the holocaust?

Comm. Parrison,

Last I remember, the Jews never attacked and murdered Germans/Nazis in WW2. They did not have an Islamic Declaration like Izetbegovic did (or in this case a 'Jewish Declaration'). They did not commit atrocities against the Germans or Nazis, but the Bosniaks did. They not only fired first, but they had every intention of murdering Serbs and creating second class citizens with tax levies as per Izetbegovic's declaration. There is a big difference between what the Nazis did in rounding up civilians from not only their country, but all of Europe, and sending them to camps for execution. People who never took up arms against Germany. Bosniaks declared independence and attempted to kill as many Serbs as possible, and they did commit many atrocities during that process.

Funny you bring up the Nazis, because in WW2, Bosniaks and Croatians joined the Nazis in committing some of the most heinous and disgusting crimes against Serbs. So it's no wonder that Serbs fought back 46 years later when these countries declared independence yet again. I'm certainly not justifying any crimes by anybody, Serbs included, but to say they did this for no reason is quite dumb. Kill or be killed....it truly stinks, should never have happened, and it's a shame for all sides. It's also a shame what they did to each other. But let's not play this game of victim when Bosniaks were aggressors too.

This year have been th 67th anniversary of the Nakba:
over 750 000 dispossessed
over 400 villages destroyed
more than two dozen massacres
over 4.2 million acres of land confiscated
over 7 million Palestinian refugees today
... and still no resolution

"Based on our experience, we know that best prospects for success, in an effort to bring about reconciliation, exists when the center of attention are one's own deeds, and not any possible mistakes in the actions of others," the embassy was quoted as saying when asked about Germany's stance on the resolution.

That's the German stance, of course. If they were like Serbs, they would demand to commemorate the 100.000s of German civilians killed during bombing and expulsion when commemorating the holocaust.

Aleks


“the Jews never attacked and murdered Germans/Nazis in WW2”


Not quite so as they behaved very different. Your statement is mostly correct about the Jews in the West. With quite a few exclusions like the famous “Rote Kapelle” they did not resist. To say nothing that without the aid from the Zionist Jews Holocaust tragedy could not be that horrible. But in east of Europe things were different. Polish Jews took active part in the Warsaw riot. Also in Poland and Byelorussia and Ukraine there were ethnical Jewish partisan groups and they fought good. Tito's assistant too was a Jew. Once Dutch Jews were brought to a ghetto near Grodno of Byelorussia and they refused to run to the partisans together with our Jews. They all were eliminated while most of the runaways enjoyed the Victory in 1945. Such was the difference between the mentality of various Jews. Some believed that they must obey any rules while eastern Ashkenazi were closer to the Russians not only genetically but mentally as well. The saddest thing was that by 1943 a 130 000 men and women Jewish army was formed in Palestine and they made not a single attempt to fight the Nazi. So the Jews were very different. It’s a well-known fact that after WW2 above 150 000 of Wehrmacht soldiers, officers and generals repatriated to Israel. They even had two field marshals - Milh and Geidrich. One commanded the Luftwaffe while the other the Gestapo and Abwehr. Among the Heroes of the SU we had above 100 ethnical Jews.

That's the German stance, of course. If they were like Serbs, they would demand to commemorate the 100.000s of German civilians killed during bombing and expulsion when commemorating the holocaust.
(Comm. Parrisson, 23 June 2015 17:00)
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Are you serious?
You can honestly compare WWII and Germany's attempt to attack Europe and Hitler's 6Million Jews extermination to what happened in former Yugoslavia? For starters it was a civil war. There was no Holocaust.
Serbia did NOT exist as a country when Yugoslavia was braking up so there was no aggressor like Hitler.
Please stop making a fool of yourself. Just as many Serbs suffered and in some cases worse.
Are you going to compare all civil wars to Hitler? Do you even remember whose side Hitler was on and who pulled out the Nazi symbols again in the 90s? Who felt threatened, Croats, Bosniaks or Serbs? Who was preparing for war and why?
Now take all that into consideration and tell how the Serbian civilians deserved to be butchered and bombed and not honoured but Muslim ones do.

Lets add a few lines to the Resolution:

Germany and the Vatican, against the wishes of the United States, England, several other European countries and the UN Security Councel unilaterally recognized Slovenia and Croatia's independence.

These actions were done with no consultation of the other constituent parts of the country known as Yugoslavia and in disregard of Belgrade's warning of military response to the dismantling of an internationally recognized country of 22M people.

Soon after this recognition, the republics of the former Yugoslavia fell into Civil War. There were no peackeepers or neutral 3rd parties prepared to enforce.

The UN eventually created safe havens to allow civilians to escape war, but these safe havens were often used as fronts for the delivery of weapons to Bosnian and Croatian military units.

"Based on our experience, we know that best prospects for success, in an effort to bring about reconciliation, exists when the center of attention are one's own deeds, and not any possible mistakes in the actions of others," the embassy was quoted as saying when asked about Germany's stance on the resolution.

That's the German stance, of course. If they were like Serbs, they would demand to commemorate the 100.000s of German civilians killed during bombing and expulsion when commemorating the holocaust.

When are the Serbian victims going to get a resolution?

Comm. Parrison,

Last I remember, the Jews never attacked and murdered Germans/Nazis in WW2. They did not have an Islamic Declaration like Izetbegovic did (or in this case a 'Jewish Declaration'). They did not commit atrocities against the Germans or Nazis, but the Bosniaks did. They not only fired first, but they had every intention of murdering Serbs and creating second class citizens with tax levies as per Izetbegovic's declaration. There is a big difference between what the Nazis did in rounding up civilians from not only their country, but all of Europe, and sending them to camps for execution. People who never took up arms against Germany. Bosniaks declared independence and attempted to kill as many Serbs as possible, and they did commit many atrocities during that process.

Funny you bring up the Nazis, because in WW2, Bosniaks and Croatians joined the Nazis in committing some of the most heinous and disgusting crimes against Serbs. So it's no wonder that Serbs fought back 46 years later when these countries declared independence yet again. I'm certainly not justifying any crimes by anybody, Serbs included, but to say they did this for no reason is quite dumb. Kill or be killed....it truly stinks, should never have happened, and it's a shame for all sides. It's also a shame what they did to each other. But let's not play this game of victim when Bosniaks were aggressors too.

...when commemorating the holocaust.
Comm. Parrisson

What does Srebrenica have to do with the holocaust?

This year have been th 67th anniversary of the Nakba:
over 750 000 dispossessed
over 400 villages destroyed
more than two dozen massacres
over 4.2 million acres of land confiscated
over 7 million Palestinian refugees today
... and still no resolution

That's the German stance, of course. If they were like Serbs, they would demand to commemorate the 100.000s of German civilians killed during bombing and expulsion when commemorating the holocaust.
(Comm. Parrisson, 23 June 2015 17:00)
===================================
Are you serious?
You can honestly compare WWII and Germany's attempt to attack Europe and Hitler's 6Million Jews extermination to what happened in former Yugoslavia? For starters it was a civil war. There was no Holocaust.
Serbia did NOT exist as a country when Yugoslavia was braking up so there was no aggressor like Hitler.
Please stop making a fool of yourself. Just as many Serbs suffered and in some cases worse.
Are you going to compare all civil wars to Hitler? Do you even remember whose side Hitler was on and who pulled out the Nazi symbols again in the 90s? Who felt threatened, Croats, Bosniaks or Serbs? Who was preparing for war and why?
Now take all that into consideration and tell how the Serbian civilians deserved to be butchered and bombed and not honoured but Muslim ones do.

Aleks


“the Jews never attacked and murdered Germans/Nazis in WW2”


Not quite so as they behaved very different. Your statement is mostly correct about the Jews in the West. With quite a few exclusions like the famous “Rote Kapelle” they did not resist. To say nothing that without the aid from the Zionist Jews Holocaust tragedy could not be that horrible. But in east of Europe things were different. Polish Jews took active part in the Warsaw riot. Also in Poland and Byelorussia and Ukraine there were ethnical Jewish partisan groups and they fought good. Tito's assistant too was a Jew. Once Dutch Jews were brought to a ghetto near Grodno of Byelorussia and they refused to run to the partisans together with our Jews. They all were eliminated while most of the runaways enjoyed the Victory in 1945. Such was the difference between the mentality of various Jews. Some believed that they must obey any rules while eastern Ashkenazi were closer to the Russians not only genetically but mentally as well. The saddest thing was that by 1943 a 130 000 men and women Jewish army was formed in Palestine and they made not a single attempt to fight the Nazi. So the Jews were very different. It’s a well-known fact that after WW2 above 150 000 of Wehrmacht soldiers, officers and generals repatriated to Israel. They even had two field marshals - Milh and Geidrich. One commanded the Luftwaffe while the other the Gestapo and Abwehr. Among the Heroes of the SU we had above 100 ethnical Jews.