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Tuesday, 28.04.2015.

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"Some lines can't be crossed," says prime minister

"The decision to open chapters in the negotiations with the EU is not up in Serbia, but on the European partners," Aleksandar Vucic has said.

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a New day

pre 8 godina

(Watcher, 29 April 2015 14:16)
Are you for real?? is the question.
NATO has no reason, nor any plans to invade or hurt Serbia. That would only change should Serbia invade Kosovo and then they have the mandate to protect Kosovo at all costs. Now do you thin that Russia is willing to start WW3 over Serbia????
You are right no one would win, Russia knows it, and while they love to use the Serbia-Kosovo subject to irritate the west, you notice they have never done anything to provoke the west over Kosovo after fleeing from the airport in 99.
Your more than autonomy less than independence will never, ever work nor be the solution. In 2007 maybe but in 2015 no way.
Most likely the solution will be that Kosovo will remain independent with its western support, and Serbia will be allowed to NOT recognize but agree to no longer stand in Kosovo's way. Anything less and Serbia will forever be the black hole in the middle of EU and NATO realm of control. Now will Kosovo gain UN membership at that, we will have to see.
But if you think that anyone is going to agree with this More than autonomy crap you are as delusional as

EU Citizen

pre 8 godina

The west is going to exterminate Serbia, the Serbs say "probably, but the Albanians go first"!
(Watcher, 29 April 2015 14:16)

Don't overestimate Russia, they care for no one but themselves. What happened to the pipeline they had promised Serbia after they screwed Serbia by stealing Nis for a pittance. Not to mention how Russia stood around with their finger up their ass while NATO bombed Serbia with impunity. Now the EU is playing with Serbia as if it is a hungry dog, making her jump in the air for scraps of meat.

Putin has had the floor fall from under him. Each day bodybags with young dead Russian soldiers are arriving in Moscow, while crying mothers await them. Now then, if you haven't noticed, the price of oil is far below what it is for Russia to make a profit. The rubble is in shambles, having fallen over 40% from where it was a few years ago. The Russian people can't keep quite any longer, their stomaches are feeling the effects of the devastating sanctions. And, to make matters even worse for Putin, Russia's gold supplies have lost even more value as he tries foolishly to accumulate the yellow metal as it is falling, with no floor in sight. Putin couldn't help Serbia even if he wanted.

Watcher

pre 8 godina

@ Brian & Rocky -
I understand the emotional stance you both are potraying, as well as hardcore stances on the Serb side like Dragoljub. I understand all that hoopla...but thats what it all is, hoopla!
Rocky...are you real? Do you REALLY think that Russia would allow the west to physically hurt Serbia again? The west can't even touch Assad from Syria or Iran anymore because Putin SAYS so! Now imagine if the west actually TRIED to bomb or invade Serbia...Do you think that Kosovo would not be cleared out of EVERY Albanian thats there? Do you really think the Serbs would be "nice guys" and not go after every Albanian even as they're being attacked? What makes you think the Serbian Army or paramilitary groups wouldn't run you over in a heartbeat? Because NATO would not allow it? uhhhh...maybe with Yeltsin, but not Putin!What "amass" could you "amass" that the Serbian Army would be afraid to confront you? Are you kidding me? This is a scenerio that NOBIDY would win!!! NOBODY!!!Not the Serbs, nor Albanians, or the West, nor the Russians! NOBODY!! That is why they must come to an agreement that satifies ALL!More than autonomy, less than Independence! How else do you apease both? Stay away from following scenerio: The west is going to exterminate Serbia, the Serbs say "probably, but the Albanians go first"!

Brian

pre 8 godina

The relations with pristina can never be good and Serbia can't ever be in eu as long as Serbia claims Kosovo in its constitution. It can't happen and that's why Serbia is polled by b92 and ipsos say with 63% support say Kosovo is independent. And why Serbia eliminated the party that put Kosovo in the constitution from parliament. No dss and no radicals no nationalists at all. It's silly for vucic to say stuff that constitutionally can't happen! Like Serbia recognizing Kosovo via agreement with pristina.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

Serbia and Germany best relations in modern history??? Yea, Germany has us Serbian Eastern Orthodox people pretty much where they want us! So Serbia is so happy with Germany today, crushed under the dirty stinking foot of the Roman Catholic Empire! German companies, sweat shops and slave labor, the Germans through out the world taking great advantage of disadvantaged countries. OK any Serbian that says or thinks that I am making up stories, just take a short trip East accross the border into Romania and go to some of the cities where the Germans have set up their slave sweat shops and check it out! Check out the very few cars on Romanian roads that the Romanians who are working in the German factories are driving, not the fancy luxury German ones that they are sweating their butt's for pennies making parts for! Look at the cities in Romania and tell me how many citizens own private homes, most all live in old communist era government buildings in tiny appartments and the Germans building ultra luxury villas surrounded by brick walls and gated entries with the most expensive model luxury vehicals parked in the garages! So Serbia if follows the EU path to be rewarded by becoming the slaves of Hitler! Yes Serbia keep socializing and following Satan and for sure doom will come upon you much worse that what happened in the 1990's! Will Serbia permit itself to become the slave of Satan? Boze Pravde i Gospode Pomiluj!!!

Rocky

pre 8 godina

Well radical Serbia, if you won't recognize then we the majority in Kosova will always be in a state of war with Serbia, even if our leaders reach some minimally lucrative deals which in theory provide better relations between Kosova & Serbia! Until next time, amass what you need to amass, as we in Kosova will also amass on our end!

Jeff

pre 8 godina

I am sorry but I don't buy this schtick anymore. We have played nice for a long time, have towed the line, played by the rules. Any other country in the region with our achievements and potential would be on the way by now. i also find it hard to be very grateful. The Germans, with their allies, caused huge economic damage to Serbia on a false pretext, and expect us to bow down and beg and thank them for the relative crumbs they give us. Give me a break. I see little alternative to the EU and our subservient approach, but lets not pretend the Germans have behaved honourably towards Serbia.

Jeff

pre 8 godina

I am sorry but I don't buy this schtick anymore. We have played nice for a long time, have towed the line, played by the rules. Any other country in the region with our achievements and potential would be on the way by now. i also find it hard to be very grateful. The Germans, with their allies, caused huge economic damage to Serbia on a false pretext, and expect us to bow down and beg and thank them for the relative crumbs they give us. Give me a break. I see little alternative to the EU and our subservient approach, but lets not pretend the Germans have behaved honourably towards Serbia.

Rocky

pre 8 godina

Well radical Serbia, if you won't recognize then we the majority in Kosova will always be in a state of war with Serbia, even if our leaders reach some minimally lucrative deals which in theory provide better relations between Kosova & Serbia! Until next time, amass what you need to amass, as we in Kosova will also amass on our end!

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

Serbia and Germany best relations in modern history??? Yea, Germany has us Serbian Eastern Orthodox people pretty much where they want us! So Serbia is so happy with Germany today, crushed under the dirty stinking foot of the Roman Catholic Empire! German companies, sweat shops and slave labor, the Germans through out the world taking great advantage of disadvantaged countries. OK any Serbian that says or thinks that I am making up stories, just take a short trip East accross the border into Romania and go to some of the cities where the Germans have set up their slave sweat shops and check it out! Check out the very few cars on Romanian roads that the Romanians who are working in the German factories are driving, not the fancy luxury German ones that they are sweating their butt's for pennies making parts for! Look at the cities in Romania and tell me how many citizens own private homes, most all live in old communist era government buildings in tiny appartments and the Germans building ultra luxury villas surrounded by brick walls and gated entries with the most expensive model luxury vehicals parked in the garages! So Serbia if follows the EU path to be rewarded by becoming the slaves of Hitler! Yes Serbia keep socializing and following Satan and for sure doom will come upon you much worse that what happened in the 1990's! Will Serbia permit itself to become the slave of Satan? Boze Pravde i Gospode Pomiluj!!!

a New day

pre 8 godina

(Watcher, 29 April 2015 14:16)
Are you for real?? is the question.
NATO has no reason, nor any plans to invade or hurt Serbia. That would only change should Serbia invade Kosovo and then they have the mandate to protect Kosovo at all costs. Now do you thin that Russia is willing to start WW3 over Serbia????
You are right no one would win, Russia knows it, and while they love to use the Serbia-Kosovo subject to irritate the west, you notice they have never done anything to provoke the west over Kosovo after fleeing from the airport in 99.
Your more than autonomy less than independence will never, ever work nor be the solution. In 2007 maybe but in 2015 no way.
Most likely the solution will be that Kosovo will remain independent with its western support, and Serbia will be allowed to NOT recognize but agree to no longer stand in Kosovo's way. Anything less and Serbia will forever be the black hole in the middle of EU and NATO realm of control. Now will Kosovo gain UN membership at that, we will have to see.
But if you think that anyone is going to agree with this More than autonomy crap you are as delusional as

Brian

pre 8 godina

The relations with pristina can never be good and Serbia can't ever be in eu as long as Serbia claims Kosovo in its constitution. It can't happen and that's why Serbia is polled by b92 and ipsos say with 63% support say Kosovo is independent. And why Serbia eliminated the party that put Kosovo in the constitution from parliament. No dss and no radicals no nationalists at all. It's silly for vucic to say stuff that constitutionally can't happen! Like Serbia recognizing Kosovo via agreement with pristina.

EU Citizen

pre 8 godina

The west is going to exterminate Serbia, the Serbs say "probably, but the Albanians go first"!
(Watcher, 29 April 2015 14:16)

Don't overestimate Russia, they care for no one but themselves. What happened to the pipeline they had promised Serbia after they screwed Serbia by stealing Nis for a pittance. Not to mention how Russia stood around with their finger up their ass while NATO bombed Serbia with impunity. Now the EU is playing with Serbia as if it is a hungry dog, making her jump in the air for scraps of meat.

Putin has had the floor fall from under him. Each day bodybags with young dead Russian soldiers are arriving in Moscow, while crying mothers await them. Now then, if you haven't noticed, the price of oil is far below what it is for Russia to make a profit. The rubble is in shambles, having fallen over 40% from where it was a few years ago. The Russian people can't keep quite any longer, their stomaches are feeling the effects of the devastating sanctions. And, to make matters even worse for Putin, Russia's gold supplies have lost even more value as he tries foolishly to accumulate the yellow metal as it is falling, with no floor in sight. Putin couldn't help Serbia even if he wanted.

Watcher

pre 8 godina

@ Brian & Rocky -
I understand the emotional stance you both are potraying, as well as hardcore stances on the Serb side like Dragoljub. I understand all that hoopla...but thats what it all is, hoopla!
Rocky...are you real? Do you REALLY think that Russia would allow the west to physically hurt Serbia again? The west can't even touch Assad from Syria or Iran anymore because Putin SAYS so! Now imagine if the west actually TRIED to bomb or invade Serbia...Do you think that Kosovo would not be cleared out of EVERY Albanian thats there? Do you really think the Serbs would be "nice guys" and not go after every Albanian even as they're being attacked? What makes you think the Serbian Army or paramilitary groups wouldn't run you over in a heartbeat? Because NATO would not allow it? uhhhh...maybe with Yeltsin, but not Putin!What "amass" could you "amass" that the Serbian Army would be afraid to confront you? Are you kidding me? This is a scenerio that NOBIDY would win!!! NOBODY!!!Not the Serbs, nor Albanians, or the West, nor the Russians! NOBODY!! That is why they must come to an agreement that satifies ALL!More than autonomy, less than Independence! How else do you apease both? Stay away from following scenerio: The west is going to exterminate Serbia, the Serbs say "probably, but the Albanians go first"!

Rocky

pre 8 godina

Well radical Serbia, if you won't recognize then we the majority in Kosova will always be in a state of war with Serbia, even if our leaders reach some minimally lucrative deals which in theory provide better relations between Kosova & Serbia! Until next time, amass what you need to amass, as we in Kosova will also amass on our end!

Jeff

pre 8 godina

I am sorry but I don't buy this schtick anymore. We have played nice for a long time, have towed the line, played by the rules. Any other country in the region with our achievements and potential would be on the way by now. i also find it hard to be very grateful. The Germans, with their allies, caused huge economic damage to Serbia on a false pretext, and expect us to bow down and beg and thank them for the relative crumbs they give us. Give me a break. I see little alternative to the EU and our subservient approach, but lets not pretend the Germans have behaved honourably towards Serbia.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 8 godina

Serbia and Germany best relations in modern history??? Yea, Germany has us Serbian Eastern Orthodox people pretty much where they want us! So Serbia is so happy with Germany today, crushed under the dirty stinking foot of the Roman Catholic Empire! German companies, sweat shops and slave labor, the Germans through out the world taking great advantage of disadvantaged countries. OK any Serbian that says or thinks that I am making up stories, just take a short trip East accross the border into Romania and go to some of the cities where the Germans have set up their slave sweat shops and check it out! Check out the very few cars on Romanian roads that the Romanians who are working in the German factories are driving, not the fancy luxury German ones that they are sweating their butt's for pennies making parts for! Look at the cities in Romania and tell me how many citizens own private homes, most all live in old communist era government buildings in tiny appartments and the Germans building ultra luxury villas surrounded by brick walls and gated entries with the most expensive model luxury vehicals parked in the garages! So Serbia if follows the EU path to be rewarded by becoming the slaves of Hitler! Yes Serbia keep socializing and following Satan and for sure doom will come upon you much worse that what happened in the 1990's! Will Serbia permit itself to become the slave of Satan? Boze Pravde i Gospode Pomiluj!!!

Watcher

pre 8 godina

@ Brian & Rocky -
I understand the emotional stance you both are potraying, as well as hardcore stances on the Serb side like Dragoljub. I understand all that hoopla...but thats what it all is, hoopla!
Rocky...are you real? Do you REALLY think that Russia would allow the west to physically hurt Serbia again? The west can't even touch Assad from Syria or Iran anymore because Putin SAYS so! Now imagine if the west actually TRIED to bomb or invade Serbia...Do you think that Kosovo would not be cleared out of EVERY Albanian thats there? Do you really think the Serbs would be "nice guys" and not go after every Albanian even as they're being attacked? What makes you think the Serbian Army or paramilitary groups wouldn't run you over in a heartbeat? Because NATO would not allow it? uhhhh...maybe with Yeltsin, but not Putin!What "amass" could you "amass" that the Serbian Army would be afraid to confront you? Are you kidding me? This is a scenerio that NOBIDY would win!!! NOBODY!!!Not the Serbs, nor Albanians, or the West, nor the Russians! NOBODY!! That is why they must come to an agreement that satifies ALL!More than autonomy, less than Independence! How else do you apease both? Stay away from following scenerio: The west is going to exterminate Serbia, the Serbs say "probably, but the Albanians go first"!

Brian

pre 8 godina

The relations with pristina can never be good and Serbia can't ever be in eu as long as Serbia claims Kosovo in its constitution. It can't happen and that's why Serbia is polled by b92 and ipsos say with 63% support say Kosovo is independent. And why Serbia eliminated the party that put Kosovo in the constitution from parliament. No dss and no radicals no nationalists at all. It's silly for vucic to say stuff that constitutionally can't happen! Like Serbia recognizing Kosovo via agreement with pristina.

EU Citizen

pre 8 godina

The west is going to exterminate Serbia, the Serbs say "probably, but the Albanians go first"!
(Watcher, 29 April 2015 14:16)

Don't overestimate Russia, they care for no one but themselves. What happened to the pipeline they had promised Serbia after they screwed Serbia by stealing Nis for a pittance. Not to mention how Russia stood around with their finger up their ass while NATO bombed Serbia with impunity. Now the EU is playing with Serbia as if it is a hungry dog, making her jump in the air for scraps of meat.

Putin has had the floor fall from under him. Each day bodybags with young dead Russian soldiers are arriving in Moscow, while crying mothers await them. Now then, if you haven't noticed, the price of oil is far below what it is for Russia to make a profit. The rubble is in shambles, having fallen over 40% from where it was a few years ago. The Russian people can't keep quite any longer, their stomaches are feeling the effects of the devastating sanctions. And, to make matters even worse for Putin, Russia's gold supplies have lost even more value as he tries foolishly to accumulate the yellow metal as it is falling, with no floor in sight. Putin couldn't help Serbia even if he wanted.

a New day

pre 8 godina

(Watcher, 29 April 2015 14:16)
Are you for real?? is the question.
NATO has no reason, nor any plans to invade or hurt Serbia. That would only change should Serbia invade Kosovo and then they have the mandate to protect Kosovo at all costs. Now do you thin that Russia is willing to start WW3 over Serbia????
You are right no one would win, Russia knows it, and while they love to use the Serbia-Kosovo subject to irritate the west, you notice they have never done anything to provoke the west over Kosovo after fleeing from the airport in 99.
Your more than autonomy less than independence will never, ever work nor be the solution. In 2007 maybe but in 2015 no way.
Most likely the solution will be that Kosovo will remain independent with its western support, and Serbia will be allowed to NOT recognize but agree to no longer stand in Kosovo's way. Anything less and Serbia will forever be the black hole in the middle of EU and NATO realm of control. Now will Kosovo gain UN membership at that, we will have to see.
But if you think that anyone is going to agree with this More than autonomy crap you are as delusional as