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Tuesday, 17.03.2015.

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11 years since "March Pogrom" of Serbs in Kosovo

Tuesday marks the 11th anniversary of the large scale violence organized in Kosovo against Serbs, known in Serbia as "the March Pogrom."

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sj

pre 9 godina

(icj1, 23 March 2015 02:57)

Once again the CTC proves he has reached new heights of idiocy. Grabbing at straws to prove some ludicrous point that only it understands.
Officially, China respects the “independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine”, and so does Serbia, but unofficially, like it or not, China supports Russia.
Read the headline again or get someone that understands English to read it for you.
“China Backs Russia on Ukraine, Despite its principle of non-interference, domestic and international interests have Beijing siding with Moscow”.

icj1

pre 9 godina

[link]/
(sj, 20 March 2015 11:10)

Thx sj for providing the link that proves that China does not support Russia in regards to Ukraine. I quote from the link you provided:

"As for external interference in the Ukraine, Qin emphasized that China respects “the independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine” and said that a solution should be found “based on respect for international law and norms.”"

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

However much of a ****hole Kosova is today, its still better than it was when the heavenly people ruled roost, but then, even a famine would have been an improvement on that. What fantasy rubbish will you tell us next?

sj

pre 9 godina

(pss, 19 March 2015 13:03)
Croatia has 4.2 million people and a potentail workforce of 2.5 million so it is possible. I suggest you buy a new calculator.
After the 2008 GFC both China and Russia put money into both the World Bank and IMF on the understanding that both countries would have a far greater say, but the US reniged on that deal and now you have the Asian bank and yes it is in direct competition with the World Bank. The first to sign on was the UK followed by Germany, Italy and France, Australia and now Japan has put its hand up too much to the shock of the US.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/europeans-defy-us-flag-plans-to-join-chinaled-asian-infrastructure-investment-bank-20150318-1m1v8n.html

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australia-ready-to-join-us100-billion-china-bank-20150320-1m33pa.html
The BRICS development bank my dear lad also has China as a partner and its only due to Brazil’s economic problems this has been delayed. Where do you get this South Africa and whites business? It’s pure BS.
Yes Russia is in deep trouble since it has 10% of GDP in debt while the US is flying high on 130% of GDP. The amount of crap that comes out of your media is unbelievable and you guys lap it up. The US only has 5.6% unemployment and all is going well but then why do they have to borrow $1 trillion each year if that is the case?


http://thediplomat.com/2014/03/china-backs-russia-on-ukraine/

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 19 March 2015 23:32)

Have you? Remember to clean the corners my little Albo friend. Ahh the old faithful 20 Euros in 1994 eh? LOL, LOL.
Just keep on telling yourself of the Serb attrocities and it will make you feel better. But Albo paradise called Kosova has turned into a s***hole and your Illyrians are leaving by teh bus load daily.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"I can see that you have never been to one and if you have its only to clean the classrooms."

i've had far wittier insults levelled at me than this, but then coming from a guy ho concocts bs stories about being paid in EURO's in 1994, it isn't to be surprised.

sj

pre 9 godina

what's the matter sj? you're too scared to count? Shall I do it for you isntead?
(Nikolle, 19 March 2015 11:09)

Please do and remember that 2+2 = 4. This should be good, an Albanian who can count. Oh are you referring to the history books in Universities? I can see that you have never been to one and if you have its only to clean the classrooms.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

Commentators are vigorously dueling to account for a greater number of transgressions against their "tribe" yet may not have realized that B92 does not recognize these as crime, but instead continues to classify these incidences as "politics" on their website.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(icj1, 19 March 2015 05:17) Well, it appears the international community is not aware of that; so no need to be disappointed mate because choosing between what the international community believes vs a certain Amnesty Yugoslavia is very easy :)
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I'm not asking you to choose what I believe. My question is whether the international community should believe the writings of a Judge from the ICTY?

(icj1, 19 March 2015 05:17) Sure, "accused", as many other accusations floating around about everybody and everything... so your point is?!

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Your comment that accusations and writings of ICTY Judges are no different than "many other accusations floating around about everybody and everything..." are an accurate reflection of the competency of this false tribunal. I am glad that we finally agree:)

pss

pre 9 godina

(sj, 18 March 2015 22:39)
It really does not matter WHO said it or that YOU repeated it, it is still mathematically impossible, even the half that you say!
As far as the rest of your post pure rubbish. There have always been areas where the US and EU have differed but they remain focused on the important issues. You really think this Asian bank is going to collapse the World bank??? Pity you, what happened to the BRICS development bank, don't hear much about that do you, since Russia cannot cough up their portion and it has always been a stretch for India, Brazil on the brink of bankruptcy and South Africa, the whites ferried all the resources out before giving up control.
Russia is not going to be a new world power in the next decade, it will take them that long to recover from the oil issue, that is if the prices rebound within the next year.
The US being washed up? It still plays a huge part of your daily reading so I would not count it out.
China and Russia in bed together, only as long as the US is a threat, if it ceases to be one then you will see the quickest divorce in history. China supporting Russia over Ukraine is a new one and one that I would have to see some real proof, before I would give it a hint of belief.
But like I have always said continue on with your opinions as they are really harmless.

Moderate Albanian

pre 9 godina

I have mentioned before and I will mention again.
Serbia must go through a de-nazification program similar to Germany after WWII. This is the only hope for Serbian people to come clean and ask for forgiveness.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 18 March 2015 23:40)

Teddy
Yes, we have read this before from bigots like azir, willi pfaff and roberto the pitiful. Which fanatic are you?

Joni

pre 9 godina

I don't agree with the crimes against inocent civils...
That who have done crimes should pay...
But, 98-98- is not to far..., so the "pain" is still there in the "soul", for this people, breaking in pieces the heart every single day of the life....
And there next door, are they who caused all the "hell" named "serbs".., asking for another "war match"..

sj

pre 9 godina

nope, you would see them locked up in their cells in the Hague. Second in number only to the Nazis, fact. Don't take my word for it, count them and compare
(Nikolle, 19 March 2015 10:06)

Polly want a cracker?

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"The only place you would see “only the Nazis that have the Serbs beat” is in a cheap tabloid."

nope, you would see them locked up in their cells in the Hague. Second in number only to the Nazis, fact. Don't take my word for it, count them and compare

sj

pre 9 godina

“March 1998 over 10 thousand Albanians dead,15 thousand Albanian women raped and more than 1 million Albanian displaced. “
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 18 March 2015 23:40)
Wow 15 000 raped. If you then take into account 90 000 from Bosnia then the only time the Serbs had was for raping no-Serb women. Oh I forgot 1 million displaced also.
If Milosevic’s forces destroyed all homes to create 1 million displaced then Pristina would have been levelled together with a few other major towns and yet that did not happen. The story gets bigger and better with the passing of the years.

icj1

pre 9 godina

If you are referring to the ICTY, then you may be disappointed to read that truth in this institution has been compromised
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 18 March 2015 15:38)

Well, it appears the international community is not aware of that; so no need to be disappointed mate because choosing between what the international community believes vs a certain Amnesty Yugoslavia is very easy :)
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and that former Judge Harhoff has accused the court of succumbing to political manipulation by external power(s).
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 18 March 2015 15:38)

Sure, "accused", as many other accusations floating around about everybody and everything... so your point is?!

j

pre 9 godina

@Balkan Antropologist
--On Albanophobia vs. Serbophobia
Kosova does not use its fears to justify the cessation of Serbia as a state. The very fact that after all the empirical evidence against Serbia you mention, Serbia has the audacity to call for the subjugation of the Albanian is nothing but a sympotom of how deeply seated this paranoia within the Serb nation.Just as Iran advocates the destruction of Israel as a state to placate its own fears, so is Serbia in the case of Kosova. Your fears are no more justifiable than ours.

--On Equality and Kosova Repubublic
If the existence of other republics within Jugoslavia was a sign of equality then the existence of the Kosova Republic is domination only to those that have issues within themselves. We are talking about the same legal order applied to the other republics. Those that struggle with their own fears would see this as a problem, because they were used to being more equal than Albanians. How can they give up this first class citizenry status for the sake of equality towards those they see as savages, subhumans.

--On victimhood and @$$holes
You've completely missed the point. Serbs due to their own paranoia see Albanians as subhumans, savages, rats ( look at Ari, Peggy, Jovan, Daniel, sj etc.) There will never be peace when this is the hive mind of the Serb nation.This deeply rooted xenophobia is a reflection on how Serbia perceives humanity, and people.The average Albanian does not see Serbs this way.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 9 godina

March 2004 8 Serbs and 11 Albanians dead.

Serbian folks in this website: Albanians are scums, fascists, they did ethnic cleansing etc etc.

March 1998 over 10 thousand Albanians dead,15 thousand Albanian women raped and more than 1 million Albanian displaced.

The same Serbian folks comments are like this;
Serbs did protect themselves, Serbs didn't do anything in Kosovo,KLA killed all Albanians...

I have mentioned before and I will mention again.
Serbia must go through a de-nazification program similar to Germany after WWII. This is the only hope for Serbian people to come clean and ask for forgiveness.

Only after this, we can hope for peace in Balkans.

Polish Guy

pre 9 godina

If the events in Kosovo during March 17-19 of 2004 are to be falsly characterized as a pogrom, then the events in Kosovo 1998-1999 are truly a Genocide that the world was shocked to witness. Denial has only made Serb claims more unbelievable.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 18 March 2015 15:23)

To people like you everything is gibberish that does not fit into your way of thinking. As I said before all a Serb had to do is look the wrong way and its prison.
The first Serb who was sent to trial for murder and rape turned out that the main witness was paid by Sarajevo to give evidence for the prosecution despite he never saw the Serb before. Thus in a normal court this would lead to perjury charges and prison, but not in the ITFY. The two other witnesses had never seen the accused before but heard that he did these crimes third and fourth hand.
I am not saying every Serb was saint, but the ITFY is a joke amongst academics.
Now is it getting through your thick skull why real universities pay no attention to what you have posted. A little information for you. Universities look at reasons for the war in the former Yugoslavia not how may were sent to prison by a kangaroo court.
The only place you would see “only the Nazis that have the Serbs beat” is in a cheap tabloid.

sj

pre 9 godina

(pss, 18 March 2015 14:04)

The jobs figure is not mine but comes from the leader of HDZ who only three days ago mentioned it on HTV Dnevnik. It possible to have such a figure depending on how you calculate job losses – it’s all statistics. Personally, I think its half that figure.
China and Russia are the rising new empires much like the US was in the early 1900s and they decided to create this new bank. My point is to show how things have turned where the EU has to join the new bank. Yes, the US is right, the new bank will be in direct competition with the World Bank and thus that banks demise and that means US influence. It’s taken a while to come out in the open but finally its happened.
Forty years ago the US could have done it all, but not today and with the EU abandoning it, all the US can do is talk. For the US it’s the death knell as a financial super power.
Actually, the new alliance is China and Russia. China supports Russia over the Ukraine. Russia will never reform a Soviet Union because its far more economic and sensible to have friendly governments rather than have troops in a country.

UnikKatil

pre 9 godina

Yeah convicted to pay fines, not a single one of these savages was sent to prison for murdering, slaughtering and ruining churches.

Albanian justice, they murder, slaughter and ruin churches and monesterys and all they get is to pay fines just like when you get a parking ticket.
(Daniel, 18 March 2015 14:51)

Hey Daniel its easy to look at things only for one point of view, blinded by 19th century nationalism particularly in this situation.

You call Albanians savages for what they have done referring to 2004 events. Ok. What do you call the Serbian paramilitary and army who did some many atrocities during the war? They obliviously were far worse including, mass killing of civilians and RAPE among other horrible things. What do you call them?? Because to your standards that has to be more than savages.
Last I checked there hasn't been any convictions of any Serbs in Belgrade for the war crimes in Kosovo so don't expect much kindness from the other part. Actions against religious monuments and ethnic cleansing must be punished by the rule of law, but again what about what happened 16 years ago at a larger scale?

When you read comments by you and your pals, you talk like you are on the side who won the war, but you weren't an Kosovo is gone. Can't change it.

Before you write anything, and start being prideful think about the embarrassing event last October at the stadium, what kind of 'savages' treats their guests like that, when they were just a handful?

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

As a matter of fact, he appears to know much more about Kosova than you.
(The Count of Kosova, 18 March 2015 15:15)

Coming from you and based on what you've posted here over the past few years, I have no doubt you believe that.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 18 March 2015 15:57)

B.A,
I could, easily, claim the same about you, with lots of documentation!
Btw, you still have not answered my initial question, namely, how did you arrive at the conclusion that he has never been to Kosova. Or, are you, Ari and sj cut from the same cloth? I, personally, think you are all the same disturbed chetnik.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Serbs have shown that they can't run a state for Albanians, with Albanians or even co-exist with them."

There are tens of thousands of albaboons that live in both southern Serbia and the rest of Serbia without any problems whatsoever while serbs in kosovo cant even go to the grocery store without being attacked and fear for there lives. Dont u see the difference? I wish that those albas in southern Serbia tries to provoke again so that we can crush them like we did last time around just the way that we demolished you neanderthals until the west saved ur sorry asses.

boom

pre 9 godina

I love how b92 criticizes the media for inflaming the hatred and making things worse, yet calls the event the "pogrom". What is next, holocaust?
Balkan people will never evolve, that is why we are where we are.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Did you even read the article??
(Danny Danny Danny, 18 March 2015 15:48)
# Comment link"

The question is if you read it, not a single one has been sentence for the murders and noone has been sentence for organizing the violence.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"Guess what, Serbs have an equally long list created by Albanians.2

Take the worst case crime that Albanians have committed against the Serbs and still the heavenly people have done more. Not that it matters to me, because at the end of the day, people can't go on fighting forever, its a pretty stupid existence to do that, but to me [personally its a question of attitude, one that you yourself displayed in your earlier comments. It is an absolute belief held by majority of Serbs that Albanians are incapable of running/creating a state and as such, don't deserve one. Let us assume that this is true, Serbs have shown that they can't run a state for Albanians, with Albanians or even co-exist with them. so yes, no doubt both sides have to break away from delusions, however its Serbs who have to make the bigger adjustments, after all there'd be no need for Kosovo to break away in the first place had the heavenly people been a bit more smart and dare I say it, more humane in dealing with separatist issues.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

As a matter of fact, he appears to know much more about Kosova than you.
(The Count of Kosova, 18 March 2015 15:15)

Coming from you and based on what you've posted here over the past few years, I have no doubt you believe that.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

@sj

what i wrote is easily verifiable, count the number of Serbs incarcerated in the Hague for war crimes and compare to any other and you will see, only by counting, that its only the Nazis that have the Serbs beat. statistical fact. take the WORST absolute WORST case of any crime committed by ALbo's as you so call call, and still the heavnely people are ahead in unholy deeds. you hate facts, that's your problem. as for the rest of your gibberish, i find it hard to laugh at someone who suffers from FPP, so will just let it slide.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(Reader, 17 March 2015 21:02) That is why the only way to get to the whole truth is to go to court. Possibly a court set up by international organizations like the UN, and not even by courts in those same countries. Like the Hague for example.

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If you are referring to the ICTY, then you may be disappointed to read that truth in this institution has been compromised and that former Judge Harhoff has accused the court of succumbing to political manipulation by external power(s).

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

Oh good, so you're just another keyboard patriot weighing in on a region you don't come from, have never been to, and have no idea about.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 18 March 2015 14:31)

B.A,
Just wondering, how did you extrapolate your claim. I don't believe he ever said he has never been to Kosova. As a matter of fact, he appears to know much more about Kosova than you. I doubt you have ever been there. You are starting to sound a lot like Ari Gold and s.j.

Danny Danny Danny

pre 9 godina

"Yeah convicted to pay fines, not a single one of these savages was sent to prison for murdering, slaughtering and ruining churches.
(Daniel, 18 March 2015 14:53) "

"International prosecutors and judges launched seven cases related to the destruction of churches and sentenced 67 people to jail from 21 months to 16 years. "

Did you even read the article??

pss

pre 9 godina

With over 1 million jobs lost so far what Kroatia do for 8 months of the year as tourism only 4 months? If weather bad you f**** again like last year.
(sj, 18 March 2015 11:45
With a population of less than 5 million they have lost over 1 million jobs??? What were they doing cutting kindergarten classes short so the kids could work in the afternoon?
You seem to be in one of your manic phases today, after reading your posts I come to the conclusion that if not living in Russia, China or Serbia might as well say your good byes as the rest of the world will just cease to exist in the next few days.
A few European countries investing in a bank to help out Asian infrastructure, is an issue. The World Bank and IMF have been very important in developing the world but the needs have outgrown them. It is time that China to put its money to doing tasks the US has primarily financed for decades. I see no danger in other countries helping the development of countries, after all the US cannot do it all. What you see as the end of the US, I see as an opportunity. I do not believe the US should continue to be the final say.
I use to think there would be actually a triangular approach to the new world order in which there would be an alliance to US, China or Russia, but I think that Russia will need decades if it is possible to enter into that much influence. It might be able to take a couple more territories back to rebuild a new Soviet Union, but it will fail in the end.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

By the way my nationalism comes from a different country not Kosovo or Albanian, mate!
(Blind nationalists will never see the truth., 18 March 2015 13:45)

Oh good, so you're just another keyboard patriot weighing in on a region you don't come from, have never been to, and have no idea about. Thanks for letting me know so I don't have to waste my time with your illogical nonsense any further. The impending war crimes tribunals should dispel the myth the KLA fought honorably. That's what Serbs are hoping. If you're looking for numbers of indicted among all of Yugoslavia's groups, that's a pretty sorry defense but if it makes you feel better in the end that Serbs were the most, then you run with that. Some of us simply want justice done, not a pissing contest.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

It was never about a unitary Albano-centric state. It was all about not being subjugated to Serb rule. That is why we wanted a Republic status within Jugoslavia; to be equal among the other peoples that constituted Jugoslavia. [...] You wouldn't know that, because you share one feature that most Serbs share; Albanophobia.
(j, 18 March 2015 03:26)

Albanophobia, if it's worth talking about, comes less as a result of some deep-seated fear you're convinced Serbs have for you than from empirical evidence committed against Serbs for decades - you know, the same empirical evidence you have to justify Serbophobia. You Albanians have a laundry list of crimes, misdeeds, injustices, and grievances weighed against you by Serbs. Guess what, Serbs have an equally long list created by Albanians.

And let's dispense with the sanitized narrative of Albanians just wanting Republic status in SFRJ. You wanted Republic status to invoke the 1974 Constitutional clause to secede. Brotherhood and Unity was never considered by Albanians. Kosovo's history for the last 100 years is nothing more than one group trying to dominate the region at the expense of the other. You cite the 1990s, Serbs cite the 1980s. You cite the 1960s, Serbs cite the 1940s.

You want to play the Victim-Only card, you go right ahead. Me, I acknowledge both sides have been @$$holes to each other. Albanians get a statelet while Serbs get autonomy. That's more equality than either side could ever think of on their own.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

No one has been held responsible for organizing the most serious violence targeting Serbs since the end of the war and deployment of international forces in the province. Out of the 51,000 Albanians who took part in the rioting, 270 were arrested and 143 found guilty, most of whom were ordered to pay fines.
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Albanian justice, they murder, slaughter and ruin churches and monesterys and all they get is to pay fines just like when you get a parking ticket.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

As far as the March riots, more than 140 Albanians were convicted of crimes during that 3 days,"

Yeah convicted to pay fines, not a single one of these savages was sent to prison for murdering, slaughtering and ruining churches.

Blind nationalists will never see the truth.

pre 9 godina

(Balkan Anthropologist, 18 March 2015 04:47
Now, now, now don't whine, someone will be by to change your diaper soon.
My comment still stands, the war crimes tribunal being put together, what are you really expecting? Do you actually think that there will be cases that will rival those of Serbs in the Hague??? Do you still think there is going to be masses tried over the Serb myth of organ harvesting? Three international investigations unable to uncover any facts that it happened except unreliable and uncollaborated rumors, as Williamson said there will be no cases presented for indictment. Missing Serbs from Kosovo are primarily living elsewhere under stolen names and papers to escape prosecution for war crimes they committed. By the way my nationalism comes from a different country not Kosovo or Albanian, mate!

Dorian

pre 9 godina

ohhhh, poor Serbs! Bloody Albanians kicked you out of a place that belongs to someone else .... poor you, what an injustice :D

Get lost people, and get a life. And cut the Crap, You know, We Know, They know that Kosova is not longer attached

sj

pre 9 godina

(Lenard, 18 March 2015 11:05)

Lenny, you must return to your room otherwise they send in SWAT to break down door of computer room. Kroatian El Presidente went to Germany to ask for help, you know one fascist to help their old friends with investing, but they tell Kroatian dumb arse Kroats must fulfil all they have signed with Serbia and no investment until that happen LOL.
With over 1 million jobs lost so far what Kroatia do for 8 months of the year as tourism only 4 months? If weather bad you f**** again like last year.

sj

pre 9 godina

Nikolle, 17 March 2015 23:32)
Read this mate and tell me how your allies are going to help you out in Kosova. One more item, Australia has already given the US the eagle on this LOL.
Please comment on how Russia is not taking over the EU.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/europeans-defy-us-flag-plans-to-join-chinaled-asian-infrastructure-investment-bank-20150318-1m1v8n.html

Lenard

pre 9 godina

sj and Serbs what did you expect. Criminal Serbia and Serbs murdering raping pillaging etc their unarmed neighbors. Not get back some of their karma back on them poor sick pathetically delusional Serbs. Good news sj tourism is shaping to be a hugely successful http://dalje.com/en-croatia/tourism-minister--this-year-will-be-better-than-last/539602 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anpMFcae9rI.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 17 March 2015 23:32)
Which universities make mention of these statistics? My family’s alma mater is Sydney and Melbourne universities and I went to Sydney and still have a very close association with both. I can assure anyone here that they do not talk about the BS you mentioned.
In fact they do not talk very much about the FY Tribunal since the legal academics don’t think too much of that institution.
If it makes you feel warm and fuzzy the Russians will face defeat at the hands of the guys in the white hats, but they had better hurry since Ukraine is on the verge of being lost completely.
Ps, I hear the US wants to negotiate with Assad of Syria LOL, LOL, LOL. Yes they are the United States of Imbeciles LOL, idiots. Have your allies removes the depleted uranium from Kosova or is it too expensive? With allies like that you do need the Serbs.

Hruz

pre 9 godina

As to great matchups Hungary seems to be even more interesting than Balkans.This confrontation between leftist jews and hungarian nazi hoards is a real fun [link]. And those conflicts in Olaszliszka,Gyongyospata and several other settlements mainly in Borsod and Szabolcs county even top this one. You guys down there realy deserved each other. God must have had a good sense of humor to mix you together.
(radek, 17 March 2015 16:45)

Yes, you are partly right Radek. We have some import from the neighbouring failed de facto states, but we do not kill each other by the thousands, that makes us more civilised, non Balkanic, like your beloved Srb and Alb nations. By the way, which one are you, Srb or Alb? You went hysterical and racist over my comment which was a reaction to a racist comment.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 17 March 2015 23:32)

My family’s alma mater is Sydney University and I also donate a substantial sum to that body so invitations to their functions are often. I can tell you now that the BS that you write about is not mentioned in history books that are used by students, mate. We run proper universities not half baked institutions like the US that don’t even mention their crimes in Iraq.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Like Seselj you want to delay as long as you can because you know you would lose and really have no defense!
(Blind nationalists will never see the truth., 17 March 2015 21:43)

Oh how adorable. You think you have some moral leverage. Tell you what, when Kosovo gets around to approving that tribunal the international community forced them to approve to try a number of KLA "heroes" for crimes against humanity (you know, the one no one in the EU trusts Pristina to run but makes it mandatory to function under Kosovo's ever-amending sets of laws), then you can get around to lecturing others on delaying justice.

PS - Make sure those trials reach a verdict. No dead witnesses or testimonies that conveniently change mid-trial now :)

PPS - Get your vision checked, nationalist.

j

pre 9 godina

...decided to define Kosovo's future status by empowering the Serb minority and ending any hopes for a unitary Albano-centric state

@Balkan Antropologist- It was never about a unitary Albano-centric state. It was all about not being subjugated to Serb rule. That is why we wanted a Republic status within Jugoslavia; to be equal among the other peoples that constituted Jugoslavia. Equal among equals. There is a big difference here. You wouldn't know that, because you share one feature that most Serbs share; Albanophobia. As a result you, Comm.Parison and your ultranationalist fellows with fascist tendencies such as Peggy,Ari, sj, etc. reflect your own fears and paranoia unto others.You package your own paranoia into demi-intelligent sentences that you try to pass along as truths.These in the end are nothing but conspiracy theories and propaganda, meant to somehow equalize the crimes committed by Serbia against Albanians, crimes supported by the Serb people, propagated by the government and the Serbian church; with the crimes committed against Serbs. For as long as you propagate such lies, such hate (just read the comments of your Serb fellows here) you will never have any understanding from this side of the isle. You cannot label your own phobias into a whole ethnicity and expect somehow you would get a warm reaction. When Serbia shows one bit of regret for all that it murdered, raped, maimed and prosecuted, then you can hope things will get better.Enjoy the viscious circle.

Beth

pre 9 godina

All of you very biased anti-Serb trash talkers don't have a moral leg to stand on. Hit the history books and find out who was who and what was what throughout history. No use pretending you know it all, because you know nothing.

Kosovo_Polje1389

pre 9 godina

As always, the Serbian government did nothing to protect our people. Even the Serbian people refused to help. The real heroes of Kosovo are the elderly, disabled and young who defy the Satanists and still live in Kosovo.

It's easy to be a Serb in Beograd or Novi Sad, its easy to be a hooligan in those cities. But I have never seen 1 of those hooligans or "true" Serbs head to Kosovo to either protect them or help them out in a humanitarian way. Both the Serbian government and people have given up on Kosovo (that's a fact)!.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 9 godina

No matter what evil done to Serbia and Serbian people through out all the ages, my conscience would never permit me to harm a religious property belonging to any denomination of faith or religion different than mine! How could I destroy some thing that is considered sacred by humanity? As a Eastern Orthodox Christian I was raised to love and honor my faith and with " much honor and dignity " show great respect for all other religions! Humanities temples of worship are all sacred, all are constructed by mortal man to pronounce the profound faith in God! Evil humanity, the Devil lives amoung us all on earth! Our Lord Crucified and Holy in Heaven and down here on earth Satan rules! Kosovo is Serbian Holy land, the cradle of our Eastern Orthodox religion! With out Kosovo our Serbia will not exist! Nothing that was started by Satan on March 24, 1999 is official, only if we Serbians accept the Devil's proposition! A contract is not valid or binding unless it is signed and agreed by both parties! Can any body out there show me any evidence that Serbian Eastern Orthodox Christians ever in history damaged or destroyed any Holy places of worship belonging to other religions any where in the world? So it is not enough for Satan to desire to exterminate our Eastern Orthodox flesh but also to incinerate our most Sacred and Holy temples of worship. Satans most sadistic desire to totally erase Eastern Orthodox Christianity from the face of the earth! Boze Pravde i Gospode Pomiluj!!!

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Ironically, the most fascist commentator such as Ari Gold, a born Albanian hater, on this site call others fascist.
I am pretty sure that other fascists in this site such as Peggy, Ratko , Paul etc. will join Ari Gold today and calling names to Albanians.
==========================
Why complain? Those names are a perfect fit for your lot.
As usual, you guys are so offended by the truth.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"Any Serb that defended their homeland...jailed buy the west...."

aww, these poor heavenly folk, not being allowed to defend their country by murdering unarmed civilians. sunshine...decry it, deny it, curse it, whatever makes it easy for you, what i wrote earlier is statistical fact, lodged in history books, taught to students at Universities, including your own beloved Australia, its only the Nazis that have you (not you, you're an Aussie not a Serb) beat in the war criminals produced list. you yourself should't let this bother, since Russia is going to take over Europe, all ills will cure (!)

Brian

pre 9 godina

Serbia responded to this by doing absolutely nothing. It should have sent troops in to protect the Serbs but it was a sign of Serbia recognizing Kosovo independence all the way back in 2004 that Serbia didn't do a thing.

sj

pre 9 godina

20,000 people were killed and murdered and more than 1.5 million left their homes ! Do not be biased .
(Ilir, 17 March 2015 15:36)

Even the west claims it was 10 000. But how many of these were killed by NATO bombing? They dropped anything and everything on Kosovo including depleted uranium, which has not been cleaned up to this day.
How many Albanians are contracting cancer today as a result of this depleted uranium?
1.5 million left homeless??? Really? If that was the case Milosevic would have had to level Pristina and a few other towns and yet that did not happen, funny isn’t?
BS has very short legs mate.

Blind nationalists will never see the truth.

pre 9 godina

Well when no one goes punished for the crimes committed in the Land Beyond Belief for the last 15 years, those statistics tend to be a little lopsided. If any when the perpetrators for crimes like the Podujevo bus bombing, the murder of children in Gorazdevac, the March 2004 Pogroms and all other cases of abduction and murder are found - not to mention those found guilty in the new tribunal especially created for KLA freedom terrorists - come back here and we'll compare notes.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 17 March 2015 14:55)
Like Seselj you want to delay as long as you can because you know you would lose and really have no defense!
As far as the March riots, more than 140 Albanians were convicted of crimes during that 3 days, how many Serbs have been convicted for their participation over 10 years of violence, rape and murder in not only Kosovo but the rest of Yugoslavia. Sounds like the scales are already tipped against you.
As far as the Children, a very tragic event and the perpetrators need to face justice. But how many Serbs refused to cooperate with the international investigators in the case? Or better can you name any that did cooperate? Also with the pseudo admission of your govt about the true events of the café bombing that was actually done by Serbs to create a reaction, is it not just as feasible that those children lost their lives by the same people for the exact same reason???

Reader

pre 9 godina

"Then why didn't you guys from B92 write an article of the crimes that your beloved Milosevic did in now Republic of Kosovo...Do not be biased ."

Well, of course they will be biased. They are a Serbian news media. The news media are the same in every country, they are biased, in some countries more than others. In this specific case, they talk about the Serbian victims one by one (as they should, since what happened is condemnable) but not about the Albanian victims. In Albanian newspapers, it is the opposite.

That is why the only way to get to the whole truth is to go to court. Possibly a court set up by international organizations like the UN, and not even by courts in those same countries. Like the Hague for example. Where the wonderful civilisation Serbia showed in the 90's is being rewarded profusely.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 17 March 2015 12:34)
Any Serb that defended their homeland would have been declared a war criminal by the west.
The very fact that the west demanded the imprisonment of anyone that made a fool of them is nothing more than laughable meanwhile they appoint a man, who was on Interpol’s most wanted list until being converted by the US to freedom and democracy, a well known criminal, who also was responsible for killing his own people to blame Serbs and give the US an excuse to attack Serbia, President of Kosovo.
Three quarters of all Albanians in Parliament today are criminals of one kind or another and they are recognised as legitimate by the west that has rule of law and order as its cornerstone LOL, LOL, LOL.

BOPA

pre 9 godina

I blame UNMIK and KFOR who did nothing but lets be honest shall we, it's nothing compared to what Milosevic did to Albanians just a few years earlier.

the actual truth

pre 9 godina

I don't see any ripping. On the contrary, A serb polishing the cross.
(the truth, 17 March 2015 16:44)

When all you write are lies and BS, it's no wonder you see that.

the truth

pre 9 godina

An ethnic Albanian ripping out the cross from a Serb church (Image made from RTS video

I don't see any ripping. On the contrary, A serb polishing the cross.

radek

pre 9 godina

One thing is for sure reading B92 comment and looking at the history of the Balkans. Serbs and Albanians are pretty much the same in attitude, and most of all, they deserve each other. God is almighty, he figured this out damn well.
(Hruz, 17 March 2015 15:06)

Buzi Hruzi,

As to great matchups Hungary seems to be even more interesting than Balkans.This confrontation between leftist jews and hungarian nazi hoards is a real fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvHngMUw9e8. And those conflicts in Olaszliszka,Gyongyospata and several other settlements mainly in Borsod and Szabolcs county even top this one. You guys down there realy deserved each other. God must have had a good sense of humor to mix you together.

Navi

pre 9 godina

20,000 people were killed and murdered and more than 1.5 million left their homes ! Do not be biased .
(Ilir, 17 March 2015 15:36)

You're being biased if you've now inflated the number of dead to 20,000. It already was exaggerated to 10,000. When did your propaganda kill another 10,000 people?

Ilir

pre 9 godina

Then why didn't you guys from B92 write an article of the crimes that your beloved Milosevic did in now Republic of Kosovo remembering the dead ones? 20,000 people were killed and murdered and more than 1.5 million left their homes ! Do not be biased . I totally condemn these acts what my fellow kosovars did back in 2004, but if you want to be real, then you need to read more about history and see what serbs did in the region for decades ! Now we know who the real savages were*. I want to say were, because I'm hoping in a near future we can become normal just like any other 2 normal countries! Regards from Republic of Kosovo.

Hruz

pre 9 godina

To call albanians "savages" would be a compliment! They are far, far worse!!
(So sad, too bad, 17 March 2015 11:43)

One thing is for sure reading B92 comment and looking at the history of the Balkans. Serbs and Albanians are pretty much the same in attitude, and most of all, they deserve each other. God is almighty, he figured this out damn well.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

@Balkan Anthropologi

Take the worst of any Albanian crime committed, and still the heavenly group will be WAY ahead in the war criminals produced list, so far ahead in fact that only the Nazis beat them in that category. not me who says it, claims it, asserts it, international tribunals affirm it. no sunshine, if being civilised equates to emulating mass murderers and attempting to ethnically purge a people, its a good thing we're savages

Bad enough as it is no reason to exaggerate

pre 9 godina

"The victims of the pogroms were primarily the oldest institutions in Kosovo-Metohija which are the Serbian Christian Monasteries and well as senior citizens & young girls. These are frequently the target of savage Albanian nationalists. "

Not sure where this is coming from but having been here during the riots that is categorically untrue. Where did the senior citizens and young girls statement come from?

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

I don't know dude, those savages have not produced the second number of war criminals after Nazi Germany, its the civilised people just north of those savages that have carry distinction.
(Nikolle, 17 March 2015 12:34)

Well when no one goes punished for the crimes committed in the Land Beyond Belief for the last 15 years, those statistics tend to be a little lopsided. If any when the perpetrators for crimes like the Podujevo bus bombing, the murder of children in Gorazdevac, the March 2004 Pogroms and all other cases of abduction and murder are found - not to mention those found guilty in the new tribunal especially created for KLA freedom terrorists - come back here and we'll compare notes.

Gerhard

pre 9 godina

Where we have we seen this before?

ISIL 2015
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2997577/Replacing-Christian-crosses-black-flag-ISIS-Chilling-photographs-reveal-Islamic-State-thugs-ravaged-religious-sites-Nineveh.html

Eerily familiar -

Kosovo Albanians 2004
http://westinfo.rs/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/martovski_pogrom.jpg

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

While today reminds us of how savage Europe's youngest democrats can be when they don't get their way, the March 17 Pogrom also commemorates the day the international community realized the Albanians are completely and utterly incapable of running a state or territory on their own and decided to define Kosovo's future status by empowering the Serb minority and ending any hopes for a unitary Albano-centric state.

Out of chaos and persecution, out of violence and terror comes a Kosovo that gave Albanians the illusion of independence with a significant international presence supervising all activities and with a Serb minority that has (at least constitutionally) extensive rights of local self-administration. The Ahtisaari Plan stemmed from the noted violence of March 2004 and serves as the basis for Kosovo's governance empowering the very people who were previously targeted first by the West and later by the most peace-loving people in the Balkans.

The damage wrought in 2004 directly translates into the series of new Serb municipalities that now form part of ZSO which will serve as the latest layer of institutional separation from Serbs and Albanians, and reminded the international community that Kosovo's future means hamstringing any ethnic group (especially Albanians) from exerting illegitimate and unwanted power over any other group.

In a way, I almost have to thank the savages of March 2004 for giving large parts of Kosovo back to the Serbs.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 9 godina

....11 years since this shameful act of savagery and much of the ethnic Albanian community in Kosovo-Metohija operate out of sheer hatred and intolerance for non-Albanians. It's sad that fascism still reigns supreme, because it is actively promoted by the narco-kleptocrats based in Pristina.
(Ari Gold, 17 March 2015 12:50)...

Ironically, the most fascist commentator such as Ari Gold, a born Albanian hater, on this site call others fascist.
I am pretty sure that other fascists in this site such as Peggy, Ratko , Paul etc. will join Ari Gold today and calling names to Albanians.

But lets see the figures 8 Serbs dead and on Albanian side 11 dead.

And you guys call this ethnic cleansing?

Personally I don't agree what Albanians did in 2004,but what you did in 1999 was 1 million times worse, and you still are saying u did nothing.

Serbia needs to apply a de-fascistization program similar what was applied to Germany after WWII, otherwise with people like Ari Gold& co there will be no peace in Balkans.
If Serbia continues to deny what they did to the others in 1990s,they will repeated the same mistake again and will be bad for Serbia and its neighbors.
You can not join the West and its values in a society full of Ari Golds and Peggys.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

It is quite unbelievable that B92 has categorized this report as "Politics" and not placed it in the "Crime" section of its web site.

Media and journalists should be responsible in recognizing serious transgressions against human life, property and cultural objects as crime and stop its deceitful description as "politics".

Shame on you B92.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

U.S. Admiral Gregory Johnson, who headed NATO Southern Command at the time, described the March 2004 riots in Kosovo as ethnic cleansing aimed against one nation and its history.

A very good description. I think the spokesman of KPS would have called the rioters 'playing kids'.
It's a shame to see once again what lies and false information spread by (state) propaganda media can lead to - it shows how important serious, truthful and unbiased journalism is in a society.

And it's obvious that those were no spontaneous protests, but planned and orchestrated - just like the things that happen in eastern Ukraine.

Mendo

pre 9 godina

@So sad, too bad,

You Serbs are the last people on earth to talk about savages. Where you born before 90s or you been brainwashed as most Serbs are. I find it completely wrong what happens in 2004 but that is nothing compare what Serbia did ne Ex-Yugoslavia in the 90s.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

11 years since this shameful act of savagery and much of the ethnic Albanian community in Kosovo-Metohija operate out of sheer hatred and intolerance for non-Albanians. It's sad that fascism still reigns supreme, because it is actively promoted by the narco-kleptocrats based in Pristina.

The victims of the pogroms were primarily the oldest institutions in Kosovo-Metohija which are the Serbian Christian Monasteries and well as senior citizens & young girls. These are frequently the target of savage Albanian nationalists.

But in truth, Serbs need to seek forgiveness. We've seen these past few months that it is no picnic for Albanians in Kosovo-Metohija either, if they aren't involved in trafficking or fighting for ISIS. Very impoverished people are desperately leaving the blackhole they supported creating.

Let's just hope wisdom reaches the majority of Albanians, so that we can take out the KLA trash and focus on building a real future for Serbs and Albanians.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

@So sad, too bad

I don't know dude, those savages have not produced the second number of war criminals after Nazi Germany, its the civilised people just north of those savages that have carry distinction.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

11 years since this shameful act of savagery and much of the ethnic Albanian community in Kosovo-Metohija operate out of sheer hatred and intolerance for non-Albanians. It's sad that fascism still reigns supreme, because it is actively promoted by the narco-kleptocrats based in Pristina.

The victims of the pogroms were primarily the oldest institutions in Kosovo-Metohija which are the Serbian Christian Monasteries and well as senior citizens & young girls. These are frequently the target of savage Albanian nationalists.

But in truth, Serbs need to seek forgiveness. We've seen these past few months that it is no picnic for Albanians in Kosovo-Metohija either, if they aren't involved in trafficking or fighting for ISIS. Very impoverished people are desperately leaving the blackhole they supported creating.

Let's just hope wisdom reaches the majority of Albanians, so that we can take out the KLA trash and focus on building a real future for Serbs and Albanians.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

@So sad, too bad

I don't know dude, those savages have not produced the second number of war criminals after Nazi Germany, its the civilised people just north of those savages that have carry distinction.

Gerhard

pre 9 godina

Where we have we seen this before?

ISIL 2015
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2997577/Replacing-Christian-crosses-black-flag-ISIS-Chilling-photographs-reveal-Islamic-State-thugs-ravaged-religious-sites-Nineveh.html

Eerily familiar -

Kosovo Albanians 2004
http://westinfo.rs/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/martovski_pogrom.jpg

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 9 godina

....11 years since this shameful act of savagery and much of the ethnic Albanian community in Kosovo-Metohija operate out of sheer hatred and intolerance for non-Albanians. It's sad that fascism still reigns supreme, because it is actively promoted by the narco-kleptocrats based in Pristina.
(Ari Gold, 17 March 2015 12:50)...

Ironically, the most fascist commentator such as Ari Gold, a born Albanian hater, on this site call others fascist.
I am pretty sure that other fascists in this site such as Peggy, Ratko , Paul etc. will join Ari Gold today and calling names to Albanians.

But lets see the figures 8 Serbs dead and on Albanian side 11 dead.

And you guys call this ethnic cleansing?

Personally I don't agree what Albanians did in 2004,but what you did in 1999 was 1 million times worse, and you still are saying u did nothing.

Serbia needs to apply a de-fascistization program similar what was applied to Germany after WWII, otherwise with people like Ari Gold& co there will be no peace in Balkans.
If Serbia continues to deny what they did to the others in 1990s,they will repeated the same mistake again and will be bad for Serbia and its neighbors.
You can not join the West and its values in a society full of Ari Golds and Peggys.

Mendo

pre 9 godina

@So sad, too bad,

You Serbs are the last people on earth to talk about savages. Where you born before 90s or you been brainwashed as most Serbs are. I find it completely wrong what happens in 2004 but that is nothing compare what Serbia did ne Ex-Yugoslavia in the 90s.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

I don't know dude, those savages have not produced the second number of war criminals after Nazi Germany, its the civilised people just north of those savages that have carry distinction.
(Nikolle, 17 March 2015 12:34)

Well when no one goes punished for the crimes committed in the Land Beyond Belief for the last 15 years, those statistics tend to be a little lopsided. If any when the perpetrators for crimes like the Podujevo bus bombing, the murder of children in Gorazdevac, the March 2004 Pogroms and all other cases of abduction and murder are found - not to mention those found guilty in the new tribunal especially created for KLA freedom terrorists - come back here and we'll compare notes.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

@Balkan Anthropologi

Take the worst of any Albanian crime committed, and still the heavenly group will be WAY ahead in the war criminals produced list, so far ahead in fact that only the Nazis beat them in that category. not me who says it, claims it, asserts it, international tribunals affirm it. no sunshine, if being civilised equates to emulating mass murderers and attempting to ethnically purge a people, its a good thing we're savages

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

While today reminds us of how savage Europe's youngest democrats can be when they don't get their way, the March 17 Pogrom also commemorates the day the international community realized the Albanians are completely and utterly incapable of running a state or territory on their own and decided to define Kosovo's future status by empowering the Serb minority and ending any hopes for a unitary Albano-centric state.

Out of chaos and persecution, out of violence and terror comes a Kosovo that gave Albanians the illusion of independence with a significant international presence supervising all activities and with a Serb minority that has (at least constitutionally) extensive rights of local self-administration. The Ahtisaari Plan stemmed from the noted violence of March 2004 and serves as the basis for Kosovo's governance empowering the very people who were previously targeted first by the West and later by the most peace-loving people in the Balkans.

The damage wrought in 2004 directly translates into the series of new Serb municipalities that now form part of ZSO which will serve as the latest layer of institutional separation from Serbs and Albanians, and reminded the international community that Kosovo's future means hamstringing any ethnic group (especially Albanians) from exerting illegitimate and unwanted power over any other group.

In a way, I almost have to thank the savages of March 2004 for giving large parts of Kosovo back to the Serbs.

Ilir

pre 9 godina

Then why didn't you guys from B92 write an article of the crimes that your beloved Milosevic did in now Republic of Kosovo remembering the dead ones? 20,000 people were killed and murdered and more than 1.5 million left their homes ! Do not be biased . I totally condemn these acts what my fellow kosovars did back in 2004, but if you want to be real, then you need to read more about history and see what serbs did in the region for decades ! Now we know who the real savages were*. I want to say were, because I'm hoping in a near future we can become normal just like any other 2 normal countries! Regards from Republic of Kosovo.

Navi

pre 9 godina

20,000 people were killed and murdered and more than 1.5 million left their homes ! Do not be biased .
(Ilir, 17 March 2015 15:36)

You're being biased if you've now inflated the number of dead to 20,000. It already was exaggerated to 10,000. When did your propaganda kill another 10,000 people?

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 9 godina

March 2004 8 Serbs and 11 Albanians dead.

Serbian folks in this website: Albanians are scums, fascists, they did ethnic cleansing etc etc.

March 1998 over 10 thousand Albanians dead,15 thousand Albanian women raped and more than 1 million Albanian displaced.

The same Serbian folks comments are like this;
Serbs did protect themselves, Serbs didn't do anything in Kosovo,KLA killed all Albanians...

I have mentioned before and I will mention again.
Serbia must go through a de-nazification program similar to Germany after WWII. This is the only hope for Serbian people to come clean and ask for forgiveness.

Only after this, we can hope for peace in Balkans.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

It is quite unbelievable that B92 has categorized this report as "Politics" and not placed it in the "Crime" section of its web site.

Media and journalists should be responsible in recognizing serious transgressions against human life, property and cultural objects as crime and stop its deceitful description as "politics".

Shame on you B92.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"Any Serb that defended their homeland...jailed buy the west...."

aww, these poor heavenly folk, not being allowed to defend their country by murdering unarmed civilians. sunshine...decry it, deny it, curse it, whatever makes it easy for you, what i wrote earlier is statistical fact, lodged in history books, taught to students at Universities, including your own beloved Australia, its only the Nazis that have you (not you, you're an Aussie not a Serb) beat in the war criminals produced list. you yourself should't let this bother, since Russia is going to take over Europe, all ills will cure (!)

the truth

pre 9 godina

An ethnic Albanian ripping out the cross from a Serb church (Image made from RTS video

I don't see any ripping. On the contrary, A serb polishing the cross.

the actual truth

pre 9 godina

I don't see any ripping. On the contrary, A serb polishing the cross.
(the truth, 17 March 2015 16:44)

When all you write are lies and BS, it's no wonder you see that.

BOPA

pre 9 godina

I blame UNMIK and KFOR who did nothing but lets be honest shall we, it's nothing compared to what Milosevic did to Albanians just a few years earlier.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 17 March 2015 12:34)
Any Serb that defended their homeland would have been declared a war criminal by the west.
The very fact that the west demanded the imprisonment of anyone that made a fool of them is nothing more than laughable meanwhile they appoint a man, who was on Interpol’s most wanted list until being converted by the US to freedom and democracy, a well known criminal, who also was responsible for killing his own people to blame Serbs and give the US an excuse to attack Serbia, President of Kosovo.
Three quarters of all Albanians in Parliament today are criminals of one kind or another and they are recognised as legitimate by the west that has rule of law and order as its cornerstone LOL, LOL, LOL.

sj

pre 9 godina

20,000 people were killed and murdered and more than 1.5 million left their homes ! Do not be biased .
(Ilir, 17 March 2015 15:36)

Even the west claims it was 10 000. But how many of these were killed by NATO bombing? They dropped anything and everything on Kosovo including depleted uranium, which has not been cleaned up to this day.
How many Albanians are contracting cancer today as a result of this depleted uranium?
1.5 million left homeless??? Really? If that was the case Milosevic would have had to level Pristina and a few other towns and yet that did not happen, funny isn’t?
BS has very short legs mate.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Ironically, the most fascist commentator such as Ari Gold, a born Albanian hater, on this site call others fascist.
I am pretty sure that other fascists in this site such as Peggy, Ratko , Paul etc. will join Ari Gold today and calling names to Albanians.
==========================
Why complain? Those names are a perfect fit for your lot.
As usual, you guys are so offended by the truth.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"Guess what, Serbs have an equally long list created by Albanians.2

Take the worst case crime that Albanians have committed against the Serbs and still the heavenly people have done more. Not that it matters to me, because at the end of the day, people can't go on fighting forever, its a pretty stupid existence to do that, but to me [personally its a question of attitude, one that you yourself displayed in your earlier comments. It is an absolute belief held by majority of Serbs that Albanians are incapable of running/creating a state and as such, don't deserve one. Let us assume that this is true, Serbs have shown that they can't run a state for Albanians, with Albanians or even co-exist with them. so yes, no doubt both sides have to break away from delusions, however its Serbs who have to make the bigger adjustments, after all there'd be no need for Kosovo to break away in the first place had the heavenly people been a bit more smart and dare I say it, more humane in dealing with separatist issues.

UnikKatil

pre 9 godina

Yeah convicted to pay fines, not a single one of these savages was sent to prison for murdering, slaughtering and ruining churches.

Albanian justice, they murder, slaughter and ruin churches and monesterys and all they get is to pay fines just like when you get a parking ticket.
(Daniel, 18 March 2015 14:51)

Hey Daniel its easy to look at things only for one point of view, blinded by 19th century nationalism particularly in this situation.

You call Albanians savages for what they have done referring to 2004 events. Ok. What do you call the Serbian paramilitary and army who did some many atrocities during the war? They obliviously were far worse including, mass killing of civilians and RAPE among other horrible things. What do you call them?? Because to your standards that has to be more than savages.
Last I checked there hasn't been any convictions of any Serbs in Belgrade for the war crimes in Kosovo so don't expect much kindness from the other part. Actions against religious monuments and ethnic cleansing must be punished by the rule of law, but again what about what happened 16 years ago at a larger scale?

When you read comments by you and your pals, you talk like you are on the side who won the war, but you weren't an Kosovo is gone. Can't change it.

Before you write anything, and start being prideful think about the embarrassing event last October at the stadium, what kind of 'savages' treats their guests like that, when they were just a handful?

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

However much of a ****hole Kosova is today, its still better than it was when the heavenly people ruled roost, but then, even a famine would have been an improvement on that. What fantasy rubbish will you tell us next?

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

U.S. Admiral Gregory Johnson, who headed NATO Southern Command at the time, described the March 2004 riots in Kosovo as ethnic cleansing aimed against one nation and its history.

A very good description. I think the spokesman of KPS would have called the rioters 'playing kids'.
It's a shame to see once again what lies and false information spread by (state) propaganda media can lead to - it shows how important serious, truthful and unbiased journalism is in a society.

And it's obvious that those were no spontaneous protests, but planned and orchestrated - just like the things that happen in eastern Ukraine.

Bad enough as it is no reason to exaggerate

pre 9 godina

"The victims of the pogroms were primarily the oldest institutions in Kosovo-Metohija which are the Serbian Christian Monasteries and well as senior citizens & young girls. These are frequently the target of savage Albanian nationalists. "

Not sure where this is coming from but having been here during the riots that is categorically untrue. Where did the senior citizens and young girls statement come from?

Blind nationalists will never see the truth.

pre 9 godina

Well when no one goes punished for the crimes committed in the Land Beyond Belief for the last 15 years, those statistics tend to be a little lopsided. If any when the perpetrators for crimes like the Podujevo bus bombing, the murder of children in Gorazdevac, the March 2004 Pogroms and all other cases of abduction and murder are found - not to mention those found guilty in the new tribunal especially created for KLA freedom terrorists - come back here and we'll compare notes.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 17 March 2015 14:55)
Like Seselj you want to delay as long as you can because you know you would lose and really have no defense!
As far as the March riots, more than 140 Albanians were convicted of crimes during that 3 days, how many Serbs have been convicted for their participation over 10 years of violence, rape and murder in not only Kosovo but the rest of Yugoslavia. Sounds like the scales are already tipped against you.
As far as the Children, a very tragic event and the perpetrators need to face justice. But how many Serbs refused to cooperate with the international investigators in the case? Or better can you name any that did cooperate? Also with the pseudo admission of your govt about the true events of the café bombing that was actually done by Serbs to create a reaction, is it not just as feasible that those children lost their lives by the same people for the exact same reason???

Dorian

pre 9 godina

ohhhh, poor Serbs! Bloody Albanians kicked you out of a place that belongs to someone else .... poor you, what an injustice :D

Get lost people, and get a life. And cut the Crap, You know, We Know, They know that Kosova is not longer attached

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

@sj

what i wrote is easily verifiable, count the number of Serbs incarcerated in the Hague for war crimes and compare to any other and you will see, only by counting, that its only the Nazis that have the Serbs beat. statistical fact. take the WORST absolute WORST case of any crime committed by ALbo's as you so call call, and still the heavnely people are ahead in unholy deeds. you hate facts, that's your problem. as for the rest of your gibberish, i find it hard to laugh at someone who suffers from FPP, so will just let it slide.

boom

pre 9 godina

I love how b92 criticizes the media for inflaming the hatred and making things worse, yet calls the event the "pogrom". What is next, holocaust?
Balkan people will never evolve, that is why we are where we are.

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

As a matter of fact, he appears to know much more about Kosova than you.
(The Count of Kosova, 18 March 2015 15:15)

Coming from you and based on what you've posted here over the past few years, I have no doubt you believe that.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 18 March 2015 15:57)

B.A,
I could, easily, claim the same about you, with lots of documentation!
Btw, you still have not answered my initial question, namely, how did you arrive at the conclusion that he has never been to Kosova. Or, are you, Ari and sj cut from the same cloth? I, personally, think you are all the same disturbed chetnik.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"The only place you would see “only the Nazis that have the Serbs beat” is in a cheap tabloid."

nope, you would see them locked up in their cells in the Hague. Second in number only to the Nazis, fact. Don't take my word for it, count them and compare

pss

pre 9 godina

(sj, 18 March 2015 22:39)
It really does not matter WHO said it or that YOU repeated it, it is still mathematically impossible, even the half that you say!
As far as the rest of your post pure rubbish. There have always been areas where the US and EU have differed but they remain focused on the important issues. You really think this Asian bank is going to collapse the World bank??? Pity you, what happened to the BRICS development bank, don't hear much about that do you, since Russia cannot cough up their portion and it has always been a stretch for India, Brazil on the brink of bankruptcy and South Africa, the whites ferried all the resources out before giving up control.
Russia is not going to be a new world power in the next decade, it will take them that long to recover from the oil issue, that is if the prices rebound within the next year.
The US being washed up? It still plays a huge part of your daily reading so I would not count it out.
China and Russia in bed together, only as long as the US is a threat, if it ceases to be one then you will see the quickest divorce in history. China supporting Russia over Ukraine is a new one and one that I would have to see some real proof, before I would give it a hint of belief.
But like I have always said continue on with your opinions as they are really harmless.

Reader

pre 9 godina

"Then why didn't you guys from B92 write an article of the crimes that your beloved Milosevic did in now Republic of Kosovo...Do not be biased ."

Well, of course they will be biased. They are a Serbian news media. The news media are the same in every country, they are biased, in some countries more than others. In this specific case, they talk about the Serbian victims one by one (as they should, since what happened is condemnable) but not about the Albanian victims. In Albanian newspapers, it is the opposite.

That is why the only way to get to the whole truth is to go to court. Possibly a court set up by international organizations like the UN, and not even by courts in those same countries. Like the Hague for example. Where the wonderful civilisation Serbia showed in the 90's is being rewarded profusely.

Lenard

pre 9 godina

sj and Serbs what did you expect. Criminal Serbia and Serbs murdering raping pillaging etc their unarmed neighbors. Not get back some of their karma back on them poor sick pathetically delusional Serbs. Good news sj tourism is shaping to be a hugely successful http://dalje.com/en-croatia/tourism-minister--this-year-will-be-better-than-last/539602 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anpMFcae9rI.

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

Oh good, so you're just another keyboard patriot weighing in on a region you don't come from, have never been to, and have no idea about.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 18 March 2015 14:31)

B.A,
Just wondering, how did you extrapolate your claim. I don't believe he ever said he has never been to Kosova. As a matter of fact, he appears to know much more about Kosova than you. I doubt you have ever been there. You are starting to sound a lot like Ari Gold and s.j.

Danny Danny Danny

pre 9 godina

"Yeah convicted to pay fines, not a single one of these savages was sent to prison for murdering, slaughtering and ruining churches.
(Daniel, 18 March 2015 14:53) "

"International prosecutors and judges launched seven cases related to the destruction of churches and sentenced 67 people to jail from 21 months to 16 years. "

Did you even read the article??

Kosovo_Polje1389

pre 9 godina

As always, the Serbian government did nothing to protect our people. Even the Serbian people refused to help. The real heroes of Kosovo are the elderly, disabled and young who defy the Satanists and still live in Kosovo.

It's easy to be a Serb in Beograd or Novi Sad, its easy to be a hooligan in those cities. But I have never seen 1 of those hooligans or "true" Serbs head to Kosovo to either protect them or help them out in a humanitarian way. Both the Serbian government and people have given up on Kosovo (that's a fact)!.

j

pre 9 godina

...decided to define Kosovo's future status by empowering the Serb minority and ending any hopes for a unitary Albano-centric state

@Balkan Antropologist- It was never about a unitary Albano-centric state. It was all about not being subjugated to Serb rule. That is why we wanted a Republic status within Jugoslavia; to be equal among the other peoples that constituted Jugoslavia. Equal among equals. There is a big difference here. You wouldn't know that, because you share one feature that most Serbs share; Albanophobia. As a result you, Comm.Parison and your ultranationalist fellows with fascist tendencies such as Peggy,Ari, sj, etc. reflect your own fears and paranoia unto others.You package your own paranoia into demi-intelligent sentences that you try to pass along as truths.These in the end are nothing but conspiracy theories and propaganda, meant to somehow equalize the crimes committed by Serbia against Albanians, crimes supported by the Serb people, propagated by the government and the Serbian church; with the crimes committed against Serbs. For as long as you propagate such lies, such hate (just read the comments of your Serb fellows here) you will never have any understanding from this side of the isle. You cannot label your own phobias into a whole ethnicity and expect somehow you would get a warm reaction. When Serbia shows one bit of regret for all that it murdered, raped, maimed and prosecuted, then you can hope things will get better.Enjoy the viscious circle.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

By the way my nationalism comes from a different country not Kosovo or Albanian, mate!
(Blind nationalists will never see the truth., 18 March 2015 13:45)

Oh good, so you're just another keyboard patriot weighing in on a region you don't come from, have never been to, and have no idea about. Thanks for letting me know so I don't have to waste my time with your illogical nonsense any further. The impending war crimes tribunals should dispel the myth the KLA fought honorably. That's what Serbs are hoping. If you're looking for numbers of indicted among all of Yugoslavia's groups, that's a pretty sorry defense but if it makes you feel better in the end that Serbs were the most, then you run with that. Some of us simply want justice done, not a pissing contest.

Polish Guy

pre 9 godina

If the events in Kosovo during March 17-19 of 2004 are to be falsly characterized as a pogrom, then the events in Kosovo 1998-1999 are truly a Genocide that the world was shocked to witness. Denial has only made Serb claims more unbelievable.

Moderate Albanian

pre 9 godina

I have mentioned before and I will mention again.
Serbia must go through a de-nazification program similar to Germany after WWII. This is the only hope for Serbian people to come clean and ask for forgiveness.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 18 March 2015 23:40)

Teddy
Yes, we have read this before from bigots like azir, willi pfaff and roberto the pitiful. Which fanatic are you?

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"I can see that you have never been to one and if you have its only to clean the classrooms."

i've had far wittier insults levelled at me than this, but then coming from a guy ho concocts bs stories about being paid in EURO's in 1994, it isn't to be surprised.

radek

pre 9 godina

One thing is for sure reading B92 comment and looking at the history of the Balkans. Serbs and Albanians are pretty much the same in attitude, and most of all, they deserve each other. God is almighty, he figured this out damn well.
(Hruz, 17 March 2015 15:06)

Buzi Hruzi,

As to great matchups Hungary seems to be even more interesting than Balkans.This confrontation between leftist jews and hungarian nazi hoards is a real fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvHngMUw9e8. And those conflicts in Olaszliszka,Gyongyospata and several other settlements mainly in Borsod and Szabolcs county even top this one. You guys down there realy deserved each other. God must have had a good sense of humor to mix you together.

Beth

pre 9 godina

All of you very biased anti-Serb trash talkers don't have a moral leg to stand on. Hit the history books and find out who was who and what was what throughout history. No use pretending you know it all, because you know nothing.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Like Seselj you want to delay as long as you can because you know you would lose and really have no defense!
(Blind nationalists will never see the truth., 17 March 2015 21:43)

Oh how adorable. You think you have some moral leverage. Tell you what, when Kosovo gets around to approving that tribunal the international community forced them to approve to try a number of KLA "heroes" for crimes against humanity (you know, the one no one in the EU trusts Pristina to run but makes it mandatory to function under Kosovo's ever-amending sets of laws), then you can get around to lecturing others on delaying justice.

PS - Make sure those trials reach a verdict. No dead witnesses or testimonies that conveniently change mid-trial now :)

PPS - Get your vision checked, nationalist.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Lenard, 18 March 2015 11:05)

Lenny, you must return to your room otherwise they send in SWAT to break down door of computer room. Kroatian El Presidente went to Germany to ask for help, you know one fascist to help their old friends with investing, but they tell Kroatian dumb arse Kroats must fulfil all they have signed with Serbia and no investment until that happen LOL.
With over 1 million jobs lost so far what Kroatia do for 8 months of the year as tourism only 4 months? If weather bad you f**** again like last year.

Blind nationalists will never see the truth.

pre 9 godina

(Balkan Anthropologist, 18 March 2015 04:47
Now, now, now don't whine, someone will be by to change your diaper soon.
My comment still stands, the war crimes tribunal being put together, what are you really expecting? Do you actually think that there will be cases that will rival those of Serbs in the Hague??? Do you still think there is going to be masses tried over the Serb myth of organ harvesting? Three international investigations unable to uncover any facts that it happened except unreliable and uncollaborated rumors, as Williamson said there will be no cases presented for indictment. Missing Serbs from Kosovo are primarily living elsewhere under stolen names and papers to escape prosecution for war crimes they committed. By the way my nationalism comes from a different country not Kosovo or Albanian, mate!

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

It was never about a unitary Albano-centric state. It was all about not being subjugated to Serb rule. That is why we wanted a Republic status within Jugoslavia; to be equal among the other peoples that constituted Jugoslavia. [...] You wouldn't know that, because you share one feature that most Serbs share; Albanophobia.
(j, 18 March 2015 03:26)

Albanophobia, if it's worth talking about, comes less as a result of some deep-seated fear you're convinced Serbs have for you than from empirical evidence committed against Serbs for decades - you know, the same empirical evidence you have to justify Serbophobia. You Albanians have a laundry list of crimes, misdeeds, injustices, and grievances weighed against you by Serbs. Guess what, Serbs have an equally long list created by Albanians.

And let's dispense with the sanitized narrative of Albanians just wanting Republic status in SFRJ. You wanted Republic status to invoke the 1974 Constitutional clause to secede. Brotherhood and Unity was never considered by Albanians. Kosovo's history for the last 100 years is nothing more than one group trying to dominate the region at the expense of the other. You cite the 1990s, Serbs cite the 1980s. You cite the 1960s, Serbs cite the 1940s.

You want to play the Victim-Only card, you go right ahead. Me, I acknowledge both sides have been @$$holes to each other. Albanians get a statelet while Serbs get autonomy. That's more equality than either side could ever think of on their own.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

As far as the March riots, more than 140 Albanians were convicted of crimes during that 3 days,"

Yeah convicted to pay fines, not a single one of these savages was sent to prison for murdering, slaughtering and ruining churches.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(Reader, 17 March 2015 21:02) That is why the only way to get to the whole truth is to go to court. Possibly a court set up by international organizations like the UN, and not even by courts in those same countries. Like the Hague for example.

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If you are referring to the ICTY, then you may be disappointed to read that truth in this institution has been compromised and that former Judge Harhoff has accused the court of succumbing to political manipulation by external power(s).

j

pre 9 godina

@Balkan Antropologist
--On Albanophobia vs. Serbophobia
Kosova does not use its fears to justify the cessation of Serbia as a state. The very fact that after all the empirical evidence against Serbia you mention, Serbia has the audacity to call for the subjugation of the Albanian is nothing but a sympotom of how deeply seated this paranoia within the Serb nation.Just as Iran advocates the destruction of Israel as a state to placate its own fears, so is Serbia in the case of Kosova. Your fears are no more justifiable than ours.

--On Equality and Kosova Repubublic
If the existence of other republics within Jugoslavia was a sign of equality then the existence of the Kosova Republic is domination only to those that have issues within themselves. We are talking about the same legal order applied to the other republics. Those that struggle with their own fears would see this as a problem, because they were used to being more equal than Albanians. How can they give up this first class citizenry status for the sake of equality towards those they see as savages, subhumans.

--On victimhood and @$$holes
You've completely missed the point. Serbs due to their own paranoia see Albanians as subhumans, savages, rats ( look at Ari, Peggy, Jovan, Daniel, sj etc.) There will never be peace when this is the hive mind of the Serb nation.This deeply rooted xenophobia is a reflection on how Serbia perceives humanity, and people.The average Albanian does not see Serbs this way.

Brian

pre 9 godina

Serbia responded to this by doing absolutely nothing. It should have sent troops in to protect the Serbs but it was a sign of Serbia recognizing Kosovo independence all the way back in 2004 that Serbia didn't do a thing.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 9 godina

No matter what evil done to Serbia and Serbian people through out all the ages, my conscience would never permit me to harm a religious property belonging to any denomination of faith or religion different than mine! How could I destroy some thing that is considered sacred by humanity? As a Eastern Orthodox Christian I was raised to love and honor my faith and with " much honor and dignity " show great respect for all other religions! Humanities temples of worship are all sacred, all are constructed by mortal man to pronounce the profound faith in God! Evil humanity, the Devil lives amoung us all on earth! Our Lord Crucified and Holy in Heaven and down here on earth Satan rules! Kosovo is Serbian Holy land, the cradle of our Eastern Orthodox religion! With out Kosovo our Serbia will not exist! Nothing that was started by Satan on March 24, 1999 is official, only if we Serbians accept the Devil's proposition! A contract is not valid or binding unless it is signed and agreed by both parties! Can any body out there show me any evidence that Serbian Eastern Orthodox Christians ever in history damaged or destroyed any Holy places of worship belonging to other religions any where in the world? So it is not enough for Satan to desire to exterminate our Eastern Orthodox flesh but also to incinerate our most Sacred and Holy temples of worship. Satans most sadistic desire to totally erase Eastern Orthodox Christianity from the face of the earth! Boze Pravde i Gospode Pomiluj!!!

pss

pre 9 godina

With over 1 million jobs lost so far what Kroatia do for 8 months of the year as tourism only 4 months? If weather bad you f**** again like last year.
(sj, 18 March 2015 11:45
With a population of less than 5 million they have lost over 1 million jobs??? What were they doing cutting kindergarten classes short so the kids could work in the afternoon?
You seem to be in one of your manic phases today, after reading your posts I come to the conclusion that if not living in Russia, China or Serbia might as well say your good byes as the rest of the world will just cease to exist in the next few days.
A few European countries investing in a bank to help out Asian infrastructure, is an issue. The World Bank and IMF have been very important in developing the world but the needs have outgrown them. It is time that China to put its money to doing tasks the US has primarily financed for decades. I see no danger in other countries helping the development of countries, after all the US cannot do it all. What you see as the end of the US, I see as an opportunity. I do not believe the US should continue to be the final say.
I use to think there would be actually a triangular approach to the new world order in which there would be an alliance to US, China or Russia, but I think that Russia will need decades if it is possible to enter into that much influence. It might be able to take a couple more territories back to rebuild a new Soviet Union, but it will fail in the end.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

No one has been held responsible for organizing the most serious violence targeting Serbs since the end of the war and deployment of international forces in the province. Out of the 51,000 Albanians who took part in the rioting, 270 were arrested and 143 found guilty, most of whom were ordered to pay fines.
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Albanian justice, they murder, slaughter and ruin churches and monesterys and all they get is to pay fines just like when you get a parking ticket.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

As a matter of fact, he appears to know much more about Kosova than you.
(The Count of Kosova, 18 March 2015 15:15)

Coming from you and based on what you've posted here over the past few years, I have no doubt you believe that.

icj1

pre 9 godina

If you are referring to the ICTY, then you may be disappointed to read that truth in this institution has been compromised
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 18 March 2015 15:38)

Well, it appears the international community is not aware of that; so no need to be disappointed mate because choosing between what the international community believes vs a certain Amnesty Yugoslavia is very easy :)
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and that former Judge Harhoff has accused the court of succumbing to political manipulation by external power(s).
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 18 March 2015 15:38)

Sure, "accused", as many other accusations floating around about everybody and everything... so your point is?!

sj

pre 9 godina

“March 1998 over 10 thousand Albanians dead,15 thousand Albanian women raped and more than 1 million Albanian displaced. “
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 18 March 2015 23:40)
Wow 15 000 raped. If you then take into account 90 000 from Bosnia then the only time the Serbs had was for raping no-Serb women. Oh I forgot 1 million displaced also.
If Milosevic’s forces destroyed all homes to create 1 million displaced then Pristina would have been levelled together with a few other major towns and yet that did not happen. The story gets bigger and better with the passing of the years.

Joni

pre 9 godina

I don't agree with the crimes against inocent civils...
That who have done crimes should pay...
But, 98-98- is not to far..., so the "pain" is still there in the "soul", for this people, breaking in pieces the heart every single day of the life....
And there next door, are they who caused all the "hell" named "serbs".., asking for another "war match"..

Hruz

pre 9 godina

To call albanians "savages" would be a compliment! They are far, far worse!!
(So sad, too bad, 17 March 2015 11:43)

One thing is for sure reading B92 comment and looking at the history of the Balkans. Serbs and Albanians are pretty much the same in attitude, and most of all, they deserve each other. God is almighty, he figured this out damn well.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 18 March 2015 15:23)

To people like you everything is gibberish that does not fit into your way of thinking. As I said before all a Serb had to do is look the wrong way and its prison.
The first Serb who was sent to trial for murder and rape turned out that the main witness was paid by Sarajevo to give evidence for the prosecution despite he never saw the Serb before. Thus in a normal court this would lead to perjury charges and prison, but not in the ITFY. The two other witnesses had never seen the accused before but heard that he did these crimes third and fourth hand.
I am not saying every Serb was saint, but the ITFY is a joke amongst academics.
Now is it getting through your thick skull why real universities pay no attention to what you have posted. A little information for you. Universities look at reasons for the war in the former Yugoslavia not how may were sent to prison by a kangaroo court.
The only place you would see “only the Nazis that have the Serbs beat” is in a cheap tabloid.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 17 March 2015 23:32)
Which universities make mention of these statistics? My family’s alma mater is Sydney and Melbourne universities and I went to Sydney and still have a very close association with both. I can assure anyone here that they do not talk about the BS you mentioned.
In fact they do not talk very much about the FY Tribunal since the legal academics don’t think too much of that institution.
If it makes you feel warm and fuzzy the Russians will face defeat at the hands of the guys in the white hats, but they had better hurry since Ukraine is on the verge of being lost completely.
Ps, I hear the US wants to negotiate with Assad of Syria LOL, LOL, LOL. Yes they are the United States of Imbeciles LOL, idiots. Have your allies removes the depleted uranium from Kosova or is it too expensive? With allies like that you do need the Serbs.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Did you even read the article??
(Danny Danny Danny, 18 March 2015 15:48)
# Comment link"

The question is if you read it, not a single one has been sentence for the murders and noone has been sentence for organizing the violence.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Serbs have shown that they can't run a state for Albanians, with Albanians or even co-exist with them."

There are tens of thousands of albaboons that live in both southern Serbia and the rest of Serbia without any problems whatsoever while serbs in kosovo cant even go to the grocery store without being attacked and fear for there lives. Dont u see the difference? I wish that those albas in southern Serbia tries to provoke again so that we can crush them like we did last time around just the way that we demolished you neanderthals until the west saved ur sorry asses.

sj

pre 9 godina

nope, you would see them locked up in their cells in the Hague. Second in number only to the Nazis, fact. Don't take my word for it, count them and compare
(Nikolle, 19 March 2015 10:06)

Polly want a cracker?

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 17 March 2015 23:32)

My family’s alma mater is Sydney University and I also donate a substantial sum to that body so invitations to their functions are often. I can tell you now that the BS that you write about is not mentioned in history books that are used by students, mate. We run proper universities not half baked institutions like the US that don’t even mention their crimes in Iraq.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 19 March 2015 23:32)

Have you? Remember to clean the corners my little Albo friend. Ahh the old faithful 20 Euros in 1994 eh? LOL, LOL.
Just keep on telling yourself of the Serb attrocities and it will make you feel better. But Albo paradise called Kosova has turned into a s***hole and your Illyrians are leaving by teh bus load daily.

icj1

pre 9 godina

[link]/
(sj, 20 March 2015 11:10)

Thx sj for providing the link that proves that China does not support Russia in regards to Ukraine. I quote from the link you provided:

"As for external interference in the Ukraine, Qin emphasized that China respects “the independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine” and said that a solution should be found “based on respect for international law and norms.”"

sj

pre 9 godina

Nikolle, 17 March 2015 23:32)
Read this mate and tell me how your allies are going to help you out in Kosova. One more item, Australia has already given the US the eagle on this LOL.
Please comment on how Russia is not taking over the EU.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/europeans-defy-us-flag-plans-to-join-chinaled-asian-infrastructure-investment-bank-20150318-1m1v8n.html

sj

pre 9 godina

(pss, 18 March 2015 14:04)

The jobs figure is not mine but comes from the leader of HDZ who only three days ago mentioned it on HTV Dnevnik. It possible to have such a figure depending on how you calculate job losses – it’s all statistics. Personally, I think its half that figure.
China and Russia are the rising new empires much like the US was in the early 1900s and they decided to create this new bank. My point is to show how things have turned where the EU has to join the new bank. Yes, the US is right, the new bank will be in direct competition with the World Bank and thus that banks demise and that means US influence. It’s taken a while to come out in the open but finally its happened.
Forty years ago the US could have done it all, but not today and with the EU abandoning it, all the US can do is talk. For the US it’s the death knell as a financial super power.
Actually, the new alliance is China and Russia. China supports Russia over the Ukraine. Russia will never reform a Soviet Union because its far more economic and sensible to have friendly governments rather than have troops in a country.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(icj1, 19 March 2015 05:17) Well, it appears the international community is not aware of that; so no need to be disappointed mate because choosing between what the international community believes vs a certain Amnesty Yugoslavia is very easy :)
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I'm not asking you to choose what I believe. My question is whether the international community should believe the writings of a Judge from the ICTY?

(icj1, 19 March 2015 05:17) Sure, "accused", as many other accusations floating around about everybody and everything... so your point is?!

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Your comment that accusations and writings of ICTY Judges are no different than "many other accusations floating around about everybody and everything..." are an accurate reflection of the competency of this false tribunal. I am glad that we finally agree:)

sj

pre 9 godina

what's the matter sj? you're too scared to count? Shall I do it for you isntead?
(Nikolle, 19 March 2015 11:09)

Please do and remember that 2+2 = 4. This should be good, an Albanian who can count. Oh are you referring to the history books in Universities? I can see that you have never been to one and if you have its only to clean the classrooms.

Hruz

pre 9 godina

As to great matchups Hungary seems to be even more interesting than Balkans.This confrontation between leftist jews and hungarian nazi hoards is a real fun [link]. And those conflicts in Olaszliszka,Gyongyospata and several other settlements mainly in Borsod and Szabolcs county even top this one. You guys down there realy deserved each other. God must have had a good sense of humor to mix you together.
(radek, 17 March 2015 16:45)

Yes, you are partly right Radek. We have some import from the neighbouring failed de facto states, but we do not kill each other by the thousands, that makes us more civilised, non Balkanic, like your beloved Srb and Alb nations. By the way, which one are you, Srb or Alb? You went hysterical and racist over my comment which was a reaction to a racist comment.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

Commentators are vigorously dueling to account for a greater number of transgressions against their "tribe" yet may not have realized that B92 does not recognize these as crime, but instead continues to classify these incidences as "politics" on their website.

sj

pre 9 godina

(pss, 19 March 2015 13:03)
Croatia has 4.2 million people and a potentail workforce of 2.5 million so it is possible. I suggest you buy a new calculator.
After the 2008 GFC both China and Russia put money into both the World Bank and IMF on the understanding that both countries would have a far greater say, but the US reniged on that deal and now you have the Asian bank and yes it is in direct competition with the World Bank. The first to sign on was the UK followed by Germany, Italy and France, Australia and now Japan has put its hand up too much to the shock of the US.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/europeans-defy-us-flag-plans-to-join-chinaled-asian-infrastructure-investment-bank-20150318-1m1v8n.html

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australia-ready-to-join-us100-billion-china-bank-20150320-1m33pa.html
The BRICS development bank my dear lad also has China as a partner and its only due to Brazil’s economic problems this has been delayed. Where do you get this South Africa and whites business? It’s pure BS.
Yes Russia is in deep trouble since it has 10% of GDP in debt while the US is flying high on 130% of GDP. The amount of crap that comes out of your media is unbelievable and you guys lap it up. The US only has 5.6% unemployment and all is going well but then why do they have to borrow $1 trillion each year if that is the case?


http://thediplomat.com/2014/03/china-backs-russia-on-ukraine/

sj

pre 9 godina

(icj1, 23 March 2015 02:57)

Once again the CTC proves he has reached new heights of idiocy. Grabbing at straws to prove some ludicrous point that only it understands.
Officially, China respects the “independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine”, and so does Serbia, but unofficially, like it or not, China supports Russia.
Read the headline again or get someone that understands English to read it for you.
“China Backs Russia on Ukraine, Despite its principle of non-interference, domestic and international interests have Beijing siding with Moscow”.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

@So sad, too bad

I don't know dude, those savages have not produced the second number of war criminals after Nazi Germany, its the civilised people just north of those savages that have carry distinction.

Mendo

pre 9 godina

@So sad, too bad,

You Serbs are the last people on earth to talk about savages. Where you born before 90s or you been brainwashed as most Serbs are. I find it completely wrong what happens in 2004 but that is nothing compare what Serbia did ne Ex-Yugoslavia in the 90s.

Ilir

pre 9 godina

Then why didn't you guys from B92 write an article of the crimes that your beloved Milosevic did in now Republic of Kosovo remembering the dead ones? 20,000 people were killed and murdered and more than 1.5 million left their homes ! Do not be biased . I totally condemn these acts what my fellow kosovars did back in 2004, but if you want to be real, then you need to read more about history and see what serbs did in the region for decades ! Now we know who the real savages were*. I want to say were, because I'm hoping in a near future we can become normal just like any other 2 normal countries! Regards from Republic of Kosovo.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

11 years since this shameful act of savagery and much of the ethnic Albanian community in Kosovo-Metohija operate out of sheer hatred and intolerance for non-Albanians. It's sad that fascism still reigns supreme, because it is actively promoted by the narco-kleptocrats based in Pristina.

The victims of the pogroms were primarily the oldest institutions in Kosovo-Metohija which are the Serbian Christian Monasteries and well as senior citizens & young girls. These are frequently the target of savage Albanian nationalists.

But in truth, Serbs need to seek forgiveness. We've seen these past few months that it is no picnic for Albanians in Kosovo-Metohija either, if they aren't involved in trafficking or fighting for ISIS. Very impoverished people are desperately leaving the blackhole they supported creating.

Let's just hope wisdom reaches the majority of Albanians, so that we can take out the KLA trash and focus on building a real future for Serbs and Albanians.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 9 godina

....11 years since this shameful act of savagery and much of the ethnic Albanian community in Kosovo-Metohija operate out of sheer hatred and intolerance for non-Albanians. It's sad that fascism still reigns supreme, because it is actively promoted by the narco-kleptocrats based in Pristina.
(Ari Gold, 17 March 2015 12:50)...

Ironically, the most fascist commentator such as Ari Gold, a born Albanian hater, on this site call others fascist.
I am pretty sure that other fascists in this site such as Peggy, Ratko , Paul etc. will join Ari Gold today and calling names to Albanians.

But lets see the figures 8 Serbs dead and on Albanian side 11 dead.

And you guys call this ethnic cleansing?

Personally I don't agree what Albanians did in 2004,but what you did in 1999 was 1 million times worse, and you still are saying u did nothing.

Serbia needs to apply a de-fascistization program similar what was applied to Germany after WWII, otherwise with people like Ari Gold& co there will be no peace in Balkans.
If Serbia continues to deny what they did to the others in 1990s,they will repeated the same mistake again and will be bad for Serbia and its neighbors.
You can not join the West and its values in a society full of Ari Golds and Peggys.

Hruz

pre 9 godina

To call albanians "savages" would be a compliment! They are far, far worse!!
(So sad, too bad, 17 March 2015 11:43)

One thing is for sure reading B92 comment and looking at the history of the Balkans. Serbs and Albanians are pretty much the same in attitude, and most of all, they deserve each other. God is almighty, he figured this out damn well.

the truth

pre 9 godina

An ethnic Albanian ripping out the cross from a Serb church (Image made from RTS video

I don't see any ripping. On the contrary, A serb polishing the cross.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

@Balkan Anthropologi

Take the worst of any Albanian crime committed, and still the heavenly group will be WAY ahead in the war criminals produced list, so far ahead in fact that only the Nazis beat them in that category. not me who says it, claims it, asserts it, international tribunals affirm it. no sunshine, if being civilised equates to emulating mass murderers and attempting to ethnically purge a people, its a good thing we're savages

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

While today reminds us of how savage Europe's youngest democrats can be when they don't get their way, the March 17 Pogrom also commemorates the day the international community realized the Albanians are completely and utterly incapable of running a state or territory on their own and decided to define Kosovo's future status by empowering the Serb minority and ending any hopes for a unitary Albano-centric state.

Out of chaos and persecution, out of violence and terror comes a Kosovo that gave Albanians the illusion of independence with a significant international presence supervising all activities and with a Serb minority that has (at least constitutionally) extensive rights of local self-administration. The Ahtisaari Plan stemmed from the noted violence of March 2004 and serves as the basis for Kosovo's governance empowering the very people who were previously targeted first by the West and later by the most peace-loving people in the Balkans.

The damage wrought in 2004 directly translates into the series of new Serb municipalities that now form part of ZSO which will serve as the latest layer of institutional separation from Serbs and Albanians, and reminded the international community that Kosovo's future means hamstringing any ethnic group (especially Albanians) from exerting illegitimate and unwanted power over any other group.

In a way, I almost have to thank the savages of March 2004 for giving large parts of Kosovo back to the Serbs.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

I don't know dude, those savages have not produced the second number of war criminals after Nazi Germany, its the civilised people just north of those savages that have carry distinction.
(Nikolle, 17 March 2015 12:34)

Well when no one goes punished for the crimes committed in the Land Beyond Belief for the last 15 years, those statistics tend to be a little lopsided. If any when the perpetrators for crimes like the Podujevo bus bombing, the murder of children in Gorazdevac, the March 2004 Pogroms and all other cases of abduction and murder are found - not to mention those found guilty in the new tribunal especially created for KLA freedom terrorists - come back here and we'll compare notes.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"Any Serb that defended their homeland...jailed buy the west...."

aww, these poor heavenly folk, not being allowed to defend their country by murdering unarmed civilians. sunshine...decry it, deny it, curse it, whatever makes it easy for you, what i wrote earlier is statistical fact, lodged in history books, taught to students at Universities, including your own beloved Australia, its only the Nazis that have you (not you, you're an Aussie not a Serb) beat in the war criminals produced list. you yourself should't let this bother, since Russia is going to take over Europe, all ills will cure (!)

BOPA

pre 9 godina

I blame UNMIK and KFOR who did nothing but lets be honest shall we, it's nothing compared to what Milosevic did to Albanians just a few years earlier.

Comm. Parrisson

pre 9 godina

U.S. Admiral Gregory Johnson, who headed NATO Southern Command at the time, described the March 2004 riots in Kosovo as ethnic cleansing aimed against one nation and its history.

A very good description. I think the spokesman of KPS would have called the rioters 'playing kids'.
It's a shame to see once again what lies and false information spread by (state) propaganda media can lead to - it shows how important serious, truthful and unbiased journalism is in a society.

And it's obvious that those were no spontaneous protests, but planned and orchestrated - just like the things that happen in eastern Ukraine.

Gerhard

pre 9 godina

Where we have we seen this before?

ISIL 2015
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2997577/Replacing-Christian-crosses-black-flag-ISIS-Chilling-photographs-reveal-Islamic-State-thugs-ravaged-religious-sites-Nineveh.html

Eerily familiar -

Kosovo Albanians 2004
http://westinfo.rs/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/martovski_pogrom.jpg

Navi

pre 9 godina

20,000 people were killed and murdered and more than 1.5 million left their homes ! Do not be biased .
(Ilir, 17 March 2015 15:36)

You're being biased if you've now inflated the number of dead to 20,000. It already was exaggerated to 10,000. When did your propaganda kill another 10,000 people?

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 17 March 2015 12:34)
Any Serb that defended their homeland would have been declared a war criminal by the west.
The very fact that the west demanded the imprisonment of anyone that made a fool of them is nothing more than laughable meanwhile they appoint a man, who was on Interpol’s most wanted list until being converted by the US to freedom and democracy, a well known criminal, who also was responsible for killing his own people to blame Serbs and give the US an excuse to attack Serbia, President of Kosovo.
Three quarters of all Albanians in Parliament today are criminals of one kind or another and they are recognised as legitimate by the west that has rule of law and order as its cornerstone LOL, LOL, LOL.

Blind nationalists will never see the truth.

pre 9 godina

Well when no one goes punished for the crimes committed in the Land Beyond Belief for the last 15 years, those statistics tend to be a little lopsided. If any when the perpetrators for crimes like the Podujevo bus bombing, the murder of children in Gorazdevac, the March 2004 Pogroms and all other cases of abduction and murder are found - not to mention those found guilty in the new tribunal especially created for KLA freedom terrorists - come back here and we'll compare notes.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 17 March 2015 14:55)
Like Seselj you want to delay as long as you can because you know you would lose and really have no defense!
As far as the March riots, more than 140 Albanians were convicted of crimes during that 3 days, how many Serbs have been convicted for their participation over 10 years of violence, rape and murder in not only Kosovo but the rest of Yugoslavia. Sounds like the scales are already tipped against you.
As far as the Children, a very tragic event and the perpetrators need to face justice. But how many Serbs refused to cooperate with the international investigators in the case? Or better can you name any that did cooperate? Also with the pseudo admission of your govt about the true events of the café bombing that was actually done by Serbs to create a reaction, is it not just as feasible that those children lost their lives by the same people for the exact same reason???

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 17 March 2015 23:32)
Which universities make mention of these statistics? My family’s alma mater is Sydney and Melbourne universities and I went to Sydney and still have a very close association with both. I can assure anyone here that they do not talk about the BS you mentioned.
In fact they do not talk very much about the FY Tribunal since the legal academics don’t think too much of that institution.
If it makes you feel warm and fuzzy the Russians will face defeat at the hands of the guys in the white hats, but they had better hurry since Ukraine is on the verge of being lost completely.
Ps, I hear the US wants to negotiate with Assad of Syria LOL, LOL, LOL. Yes they are the United States of Imbeciles LOL, idiots. Have your allies removes the depleted uranium from Kosova or is it too expensive? With allies like that you do need the Serbs.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"Guess what, Serbs have an equally long list created by Albanians.2

Take the worst case crime that Albanians have committed against the Serbs and still the heavenly people have done more. Not that it matters to me, because at the end of the day, people can't go on fighting forever, its a pretty stupid existence to do that, but to me [personally its a question of attitude, one that you yourself displayed in your earlier comments. It is an absolute belief held by majority of Serbs that Albanians are incapable of running/creating a state and as such, don't deserve one. Let us assume that this is true, Serbs have shown that they can't run a state for Albanians, with Albanians or even co-exist with them. so yes, no doubt both sides have to break away from delusions, however its Serbs who have to make the bigger adjustments, after all there'd be no need for Kosovo to break away in the first place had the heavenly people been a bit more smart and dare I say it, more humane in dealing with separatist issues.

sj

pre 9 godina

(pss, 19 March 2015 13:03)
Croatia has 4.2 million people and a potentail workforce of 2.5 million so it is possible. I suggest you buy a new calculator.
After the 2008 GFC both China and Russia put money into both the World Bank and IMF on the understanding that both countries would have a far greater say, but the US reniged on that deal and now you have the Asian bank and yes it is in direct competition with the World Bank. The first to sign on was the UK followed by Germany, Italy and France, Australia and now Japan has put its hand up too much to the shock of the US.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/europeans-defy-us-flag-plans-to-join-chinaled-asian-infrastructure-investment-bank-20150318-1m1v8n.html

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australia-ready-to-join-us100-billion-china-bank-20150320-1m33pa.html
The BRICS development bank my dear lad also has China as a partner and its only due to Brazil’s economic problems this has been delayed. Where do you get this South Africa and whites business? It’s pure BS.
Yes Russia is in deep trouble since it has 10% of GDP in debt while the US is flying high on 130% of GDP. The amount of crap that comes out of your media is unbelievable and you guys lap it up. The US only has 5.6% unemployment and all is going well but then why do they have to borrow $1 trillion each year if that is the case?


http://thediplomat.com/2014/03/china-backs-russia-on-ukraine/

sj

pre 9 godina

20,000 people were killed and murdered and more than 1.5 million left their homes ! Do not be biased .
(Ilir, 17 March 2015 15:36)

Even the west claims it was 10 000. But how many of these were killed by NATO bombing? They dropped anything and everything on Kosovo including depleted uranium, which has not been cleaned up to this day.
How many Albanians are contracting cancer today as a result of this depleted uranium?
1.5 million left homeless??? Really? If that was the case Milosevic would have had to level Pristina and a few other towns and yet that did not happen, funny isn’t?
BS has very short legs mate.

Lenard

pre 9 godina

sj and Serbs what did you expect. Criminal Serbia and Serbs murdering raping pillaging etc their unarmed neighbors. Not get back some of their karma back on them poor sick pathetically delusional Serbs. Good news sj tourism is shaping to be a hugely successful http://dalje.com/en-croatia/tourism-minister--this-year-will-be-better-than-last/539602 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anpMFcae9rI.

Teodor Muzaka 1389

pre 9 godina

March 2004 8 Serbs and 11 Albanians dead.

Serbian folks in this website: Albanians are scums, fascists, they did ethnic cleansing etc etc.

March 1998 over 10 thousand Albanians dead,15 thousand Albanian women raped and more than 1 million Albanian displaced.

The same Serbian folks comments are like this;
Serbs did protect themselves, Serbs didn't do anything in Kosovo,KLA killed all Albanians...

I have mentioned before and I will mention again.
Serbia must go through a de-nazification program similar to Germany after WWII. This is the only hope for Serbian people to come clean and ask for forgiveness.

Only after this, we can hope for peace in Balkans.

sj

pre 9 godina

“March 1998 over 10 thousand Albanians dead,15 thousand Albanian women raped and more than 1 million Albanian displaced. “
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 18 March 2015 23:40)
Wow 15 000 raped. If you then take into account 90 000 from Bosnia then the only time the Serbs had was for raping no-Serb women. Oh I forgot 1 million displaced also.
If Milosevic’s forces destroyed all homes to create 1 million displaced then Pristina would have been levelled together with a few other major towns and yet that did not happen. The story gets bigger and better with the passing of the years.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 19 March 2015 23:32)

Have you? Remember to clean the corners my little Albo friend. Ahh the old faithful 20 Euros in 1994 eh? LOL, LOL.
Just keep on telling yourself of the Serb attrocities and it will make you feel better. But Albo paradise called Kosova has turned into a s***hole and your Illyrians are leaving by teh bus load daily.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

No one has been held responsible for organizing the most serious violence targeting Serbs since the end of the war and deployment of international forces in the province. Out of the 51,000 Albanians who took part in the rioting, 270 were arrested and 143 found guilty, most of whom were ordered to pay fines.
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Albanian justice, they murder, slaughter and ruin churches and monesterys and all they get is to pay fines just like when you get a parking ticket.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Serbs have shown that they can't run a state for Albanians, with Albanians or even co-exist with them."

There are tens of thousands of albaboons that live in both southern Serbia and the rest of Serbia without any problems whatsoever while serbs in kosovo cant even go to the grocery store without being attacked and fear for there lives. Dont u see the difference? I wish that those albas in southern Serbia tries to provoke again so that we can crush them like we did last time around just the way that we demolished you neanderthals until the west saved ur sorry asses.

sj

pre 9 godina

(pss, 18 March 2015 14:04)

The jobs figure is not mine but comes from the leader of HDZ who only three days ago mentioned it on HTV Dnevnik. It possible to have such a figure depending on how you calculate job losses – it’s all statistics. Personally, I think its half that figure.
China and Russia are the rising new empires much like the US was in the early 1900s and they decided to create this new bank. My point is to show how things have turned where the EU has to join the new bank. Yes, the US is right, the new bank will be in direct competition with the World Bank and thus that banks demise and that means US influence. It’s taken a while to come out in the open but finally its happened.
Forty years ago the US could have done it all, but not today and with the EU abandoning it, all the US can do is talk. For the US it’s the death knell as a financial super power.
Actually, the new alliance is China and Russia. China supports Russia over the Ukraine. Russia will never reform a Soviet Union because its far more economic and sensible to have friendly governments rather than have troops in a country.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

It is quite unbelievable that B92 has categorized this report as "Politics" and not placed it in the "Crime" section of its web site.

Media and journalists should be responsible in recognizing serious transgressions against human life, property and cultural objects as crime and stop its deceitful description as "politics".

Shame on you B92.

Bad enough as it is no reason to exaggerate

pre 9 godina

"The victims of the pogroms were primarily the oldest institutions in Kosovo-Metohija which are the Serbian Christian Monasteries and well as senior citizens & young girls. These are frequently the target of savage Albanian nationalists. "

Not sure where this is coming from but having been here during the riots that is categorically untrue. Where did the senior citizens and young girls statement come from?

Beth

pre 9 godina

All of you very biased anti-Serb trash talkers don't have a moral leg to stand on. Hit the history books and find out who was who and what was what throughout history. No use pretending you know it all, because you know nothing.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Lenard, 18 March 2015 11:05)

Lenny, you must return to your room otherwise they send in SWAT to break down door of computer room. Kroatian El Presidente went to Germany to ask for help, you know one fascist to help their old friends with investing, but they tell Kroatian dumb arse Kroats must fulfil all they have signed with Serbia and no investment until that happen LOL.
With over 1 million jobs lost so far what Kroatia do for 8 months of the year as tourism only 4 months? If weather bad you f**** again like last year.

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

Oh good, so you're just another keyboard patriot weighing in on a region you don't come from, have never been to, and have no idea about.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 18 March 2015 14:31)

B.A,
Just wondering, how did you extrapolate your claim. I don't believe he ever said he has never been to Kosova. As a matter of fact, he appears to know much more about Kosova than you. I doubt you have ever been there. You are starting to sound a lot like Ari Gold and s.j.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 18 March 2015 15:23)

To people like you everything is gibberish that does not fit into your way of thinking. As I said before all a Serb had to do is look the wrong way and its prison.
The first Serb who was sent to trial for murder and rape turned out that the main witness was paid by Sarajevo to give evidence for the prosecution despite he never saw the Serb before. Thus in a normal court this would lead to perjury charges and prison, but not in the ITFY. The two other witnesses had never seen the accused before but heard that he did these crimes third and fourth hand.
I am not saying every Serb was saint, but the ITFY is a joke amongst academics.
Now is it getting through your thick skull why real universities pay no attention to what you have posted. A little information for you. Universities look at reasons for the war in the former Yugoslavia not how may were sent to prison by a kangaroo court.
The only place you would see “only the Nazis that have the Serbs beat” is in a cheap tabloid.

Moderate Albanian

pre 9 godina

I have mentioned before and I will mention again.
Serbia must go through a de-nazification program similar to Germany after WWII. This is the only hope for Serbian people to come clean and ask for forgiveness.
(Teodor Muzaka 1389, 18 March 2015 23:40)

Teddy
Yes, we have read this before from bigots like azir, willi pfaff and roberto the pitiful. Which fanatic are you?

sj

pre 9 godina

what's the matter sj? you're too scared to count? Shall I do it for you isntead?
(Nikolle, 19 March 2015 11:09)

Please do and remember that 2+2 = 4. This should be good, an Albanian who can count. Oh are you referring to the history books in Universities? I can see that you have never been to one and if you have its only to clean the classrooms.

the actual truth

pre 9 godina

I don't see any ripping. On the contrary, A serb polishing the cross.
(the truth, 17 March 2015 16:44)

When all you write are lies and BS, it's no wonder you see that.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Nikolle, 17 March 2015 23:32)

My family’s alma mater is Sydney University and I also donate a substantial sum to that body so invitations to their functions are often. I can tell you now that the BS that you write about is not mentioned in history books that are used by students, mate. We run proper universities not half baked institutions like the US that don’t even mention their crimes in Iraq.

sj

pre 9 godina

Nikolle, 17 March 2015 23:32)
Read this mate and tell me how your allies are going to help you out in Kosova. One more item, Australia has already given the US the eagle on this LOL.
Please comment on how Russia is not taking over the EU.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/europeans-defy-us-flag-plans-to-join-chinaled-asian-infrastructure-investment-bank-20150318-1m1v8n.html

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

It was never about a unitary Albano-centric state. It was all about not being subjugated to Serb rule. That is why we wanted a Republic status within Jugoslavia; to be equal among the other peoples that constituted Jugoslavia. [...] You wouldn't know that, because you share one feature that most Serbs share; Albanophobia.
(j, 18 March 2015 03:26)

Albanophobia, if it's worth talking about, comes less as a result of some deep-seated fear you're convinced Serbs have for you than from empirical evidence committed against Serbs for decades - you know, the same empirical evidence you have to justify Serbophobia. You Albanians have a laundry list of crimes, misdeeds, injustices, and grievances weighed against you by Serbs. Guess what, Serbs have an equally long list created by Albanians.

And let's dispense with the sanitized narrative of Albanians just wanting Republic status in SFRJ. You wanted Republic status to invoke the 1974 Constitutional clause to secede. Brotherhood and Unity was never considered by Albanians. Kosovo's history for the last 100 years is nothing more than one group trying to dominate the region at the expense of the other. You cite the 1990s, Serbs cite the 1980s. You cite the 1960s, Serbs cite the 1940s.

You want to play the Victim-Only card, you go right ahead. Me, I acknowledge both sides have been @$$holes to each other. Albanians get a statelet while Serbs get autonomy. That's more equality than either side could ever think of on their own.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

@sj

what i wrote is easily verifiable, count the number of Serbs incarcerated in the Hague for war crimes and compare to any other and you will see, only by counting, that its only the Nazis that have the Serbs beat. statistical fact. take the WORST absolute WORST case of any crime committed by ALbo's as you so call call, and still the heavnely people are ahead in unholy deeds. you hate facts, that's your problem. as for the rest of your gibberish, i find it hard to laugh at someone who suffers from FPP, so will just let it slide.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Did you even read the article??
(Danny Danny Danny, 18 March 2015 15:48)
# Comment link"

The question is if you read it, not a single one has been sentence for the murders and noone has been sentence for organizing the violence.

sj

pre 9 godina

nope, you would see them locked up in their cells in the Hague. Second in number only to the Nazis, fact. Don't take my word for it, count them and compare
(Nikolle, 19 March 2015 10:06)

Polly want a cracker?

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 9 godina

No matter what evil done to Serbia and Serbian people through out all the ages, my conscience would never permit me to harm a religious property belonging to any denomination of faith or religion different than mine! How could I destroy some thing that is considered sacred by humanity? As a Eastern Orthodox Christian I was raised to love and honor my faith and with " much honor and dignity " show great respect for all other religions! Humanities temples of worship are all sacred, all are constructed by mortal man to pronounce the profound faith in God! Evil humanity, the Devil lives amoung us all on earth! Our Lord Crucified and Holy in Heaven and down here on earth Satan rules! Kosovo is Serbian Holy land, the cradle of our Eastern Orthodox religion! With out Kosovo our Serbia will not exist! Nothing that was started by Satan on March 24, 1999 is official, only if we Serbians accept the Devil's proposition! A contract is not valid or binding unless it is signed and agreed by both parties! Can any body out there show me any evidence that Serbian Eastern Orthodox Christians ever in history damaged or destroyed any Holy places of worship belonging to other religions any where in the world? So it is not enough for Satan to desire to exterminate our Eastern Orthodox flesh but also to incinerate our most Sacred and Holy temples of worship. Satans most sadistic desire to totally erase Eastern Orthodox Christianity from the face of the earth! Boze Pravde i Gospode Pomiluj!!!

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Ironically, the most fascist commentator such as Ari Gold, a born Albanian hater, on this site call others fascist.
I am pretty sure that other fascists in this site such as Peggy, Ratko , Paul etc. will join Ari Gold today and calling names to Albanians.
==========================
Why complain? Those names are a perfect fit for your lot.
As usual, you guys are so offended by the truth.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

Like Seselj you want to delay as long as you can because you know you would lose and really have no defense!
(Blind nationalists will never see the truth., 17 March 2015 21:43)

Oh how adorable. You think you have some moral leverage. Tell you what, when Kosovo gets around to approving that tribunal the international community forced them to approve to try a number of KLA "heroes" for crimes against humanity (you know, the one no one in the EU trusts Pristina to run but makes it mandatory to function under Kosovo's ever-amending sets of laws), then you can get around to lecturing others on delaying justice.

PS - Make sure those trials reach a verdict. No dead witnesses or testimonies that conveniently change mid-trial now :)

PPS - Get your vision checked, nationalist.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

By the way my nationalism comes from a different country not Kosovo or Albanian, mate!
(Blind nationalists will never see the truth., 18 March 2015 13:45)

Oh good, so you're just another keyboard patriot weighing in on a region you don't come from, have never been to, and have no idea about. Thanks for letting me know so I don't have to waste my time with your illogical nonsense any further. The impending war crimes tribunals should dispel the myth the KLA fought honorably. That's what Serbs are hoping. If you're looking for numbers of indicted among all of Yugoslavia's groups, that's a pretty sorry defense but if it makes you feel better in the end that Serbs were the most, then you run with that. Some of us simply want justice done, not a pissing contest.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

As far as the March riots, more than 140 Albanians were convicted of crimes during that 3 days,"

Yeah convicted to pay fines, not a single one of these savages was sent to prison for murdering, slaughtering and ruining churches.

Balkan Anthropologist

pre 9 godina

As a matter of fact, he appears to know much more about Kosova than you.
(The Count of Kosova, 18 March 2015 15:15)

Coming from you and based on what you've posted here over the past few years, I have no doubt you believe that.

j

pre 9 godina

@Balkan Antropologist
--On Albanophobia vs. Serbophobia
Kosova does not use its fears to justify the cessation of Serbia as a state. The very fact that after all the empirical evidence against Serbia you mention, Serbia has the audacity to call for the subjugation of the Albanian is nothing but a sympotom of how deeply seated this paranoia within the Serb nation.Just as Iran advocates the destruction of Israel as a state to placate its own fears, so is Serbia in the case of Kosova. Your fears are no more justifiable than ours.

--On Equality and Kosova Repubublic
If the existence of other republics within Jugoslavia was a sign of equality then the existence of the Kosova Republic is domination only to those that have issues within themselves. We are talking about the same legal order applied to the other republics. Those that struggle with their own fears would see this as a problem, because they were used to being more equal than Albanians. How can they give up this first class citizenry status for the sake of equality towards those they see as savages, subhumans.

--On victimhood and @$$holes
You've completely missed the point. Serbs due to their own paranoia see Albanians as subhumans, savages, rats ( look at Ari, Peggy, Jovan, Daniel, sj etc.) There will never be peace when this is the hive mind of the Serb nation.This deeply rooted xenophobia is a reflection on how Serbia perceives humanity, and people.The average Albanian does not see Serbs this way.

Kosovo_Polje1389

pre 9 godina

As always, the Serbian government did nothing to protect our people. Even the Serbian people refused to help. The real heroes of Kosovo are the elderly, disabled and young who defy the Satanists and still live in Kosovo.

It's easy to be a Serb in Beograd or Novi Sad, its easy to be a hooligan in those cities. But I have never seen 1 of those hooligans or "true" Serbs head to Kosovo to either protect them or help them out in a humanitarian way. Both the Serbian government and people have given up on Kosovo (that's a fact)!.

Dorian

pre 9 godina

ohhhh, poor Serbs! Bloody Albanians kicked you out of a place that belongs to someone else .... poor you, what an injustice :D

Get lost people, and get a life. And cut the Crap, You know, We Know, They know that Kosova is not longer attached

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"The only place you would see “only the Nazis that have the Serbs beat” is in a cheap tabloid."

nope, you would see them locked up in their cells in the Hague. Second in number only to the Nazis, fact. Don't take my word for it, count them and compare

Blind nationalists will never see the truth.

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(Balkan Anthropologist, 18 March 2015 04:47
Now, now, now don't whine, someone will be by to change your diaper soon.
My comment still stands, the war crimes tribunal being put together, what are you really expecting? Do you actually think that there will be cases that will rival those of Serbs in the Hague??? Do you still think there is going to be masses tried over the Serb myth of organ harvesting? Three international investigations unable to uncover any facts that it happened except unreliable and uncollaborated rumors, as Williamson said there will be no cases presented for indictment. Missing Serbs from Kosovo are primarily living elsewhere under stolen names and papers to escape prosecution for war crimes they committed. By the way my nationalism comes from a different country not Kosovo or Albanian, mate!

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

However much of a ****hole Kosova is today, its still better than it was when the heavenly people ruled roost, but then, even a famine would have been an improvement on that. What fantasy rubbish will you tell us next?

radek

pre 9 godina

One thing is for sure reading B92 comment and looking at the history of the Balkans. Serbs and Albanians are pretty much the same in attitude, and most of all, they deserve each other. God is almighty, he figured this out damn well.
(Hruz, 17 March 2015 15:06)

Buzi Hruzi,

As to great matchups Hungary seems to be even more interesting than Balkans.This confrontation between leftist jews and hungarian nazi hoards is a real fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvHngMUw9e8. And those conflicts in Olaszliszka,Gyongyospata and several other settlements mainly in Borsod and Szabolcs county even top this one. You guys down there realy deserved each other. God must have had a good sense of humor to mix you together.

Brian

pre 9 godina

Serbia responded to this by doing absolutely nothing. It should have sent troops in to protect the Serbs but it was a sign of Serbia recognizing Kosovo independence all the way back in 2004 that Serbia didn't do a thing.

j

pre 9 godina

...decided to define Kosovo's future status by empowering the Serb minority and ending any hopes for a unitary Albano-centric state

@Balkan Antropologist- It was never about a unitary Albano-centric state. It was all about not being subjugated to Serb rule. That is why we wanted a Republic status within Jugoslavia; to be equal among the other peoples that constituted Jugoslavia. Equal among equals. There is a big difference here. You wouldn't know that, because you share one feature that most Serbs share; Albanophobia. As a result you, Comm.Parison and your ultranationalist fellows with fascist tendencies such as Peggy,Ari, sj, etc. reflect your own fears and paranoia unto others.You package your own paranoia into demi-intelligent sentences that you try to pass along as truths.These in the end are nothing but conspiracy theories and propaganda, meant to somehow equalize the crimes committed by Serbia against Albanians, crimes supported by the Serb people, propagated by the government and the Serbian church; with the crimes committed against Serbs. For as long as you propagate such lies, such hate (just read the comments of your Serb fellows here) you will never have any understanding from this side of the isle. You cannot label your own phobias into a whole ethnicity and expect somehow you would get a warm reaction. When Serbia shows one bit of regret for all that it murdered, raped, maimed and prosecuted, then you can hope things will get better.Enjoy the viscious circle.

Hruz

pre 9 godina

As to great matchups Hungary seems to be even more interesting than Balkans.This confrontation between leftist jews and hungarian nazi hoards is a real fun [link]. And those conflicts in Olaszliszka,Gyongyospata and several other settlements mainly in Borsod and Szabolcs county even top this one. You guys down there realy deserved each other. God must have had a good sense of humor to mix you together.
(radek, 17 March 2015 16:45)

Yes, you are partly right Radek. We have some import from the neighbouring failed de facto states, but we do not kill each other by the thousands, that makes us more civilised, non Balkanic, like your beloved Srb and Alb nations. By the way, which one are you, Srb or Alb? You went hysterical and racist over my comment which was a reaction to a racist comment.

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(Reader, 17 March 2015 21:02) That is why the only way to get to the whole truth is to go to court. Possibly a court set up by international organizations like the UN, and not even by courts in those same countries. Like the Hague for example.

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If you are referring to the ICTY, then you may be disappointed to read that truth in this institution has been compromised and that former Judge Harhoff has accused the court of succumbing to political manipulation by external power(s).

UnikKatil

pre 9 godina

Yeah convicted to pay fines, not a single one of these savages was sent to prison for murdering, slaughtering and ruining churches.

Albanian justice, they murder, slaughter and ruin churches and monesterys and all they get is to pay fines just like when you get a parking ticket.
(Daniel, 18 March 2015 14:51)

Hey Daniel its easy to look at things only for one point of view, blinded by 19th century nationalism particularly in this situation.

You call Albanians savages for what they have done referring to 2004 events. Ok. What do you call the Serbian paramilitary and army who did some many atrocities during the war? They obliviously were far worse including, mass killing of civilians and RAPE among other horrible things. What do you call them?? Because to your standards that has to be more than savages.
Last I checked there hasn't been any convictions of any Serbs in Belgrade for the war crimes in Kosovo so don't expect much kindness from the other part. Actions against religious monuments and ethnic cleansing must be punished by the rule of law, but again what about what happened 16 years ago at a larger scale?

When you read comments by you and your pals, you talk like you are on the side who won the war, but you weren't an Kosovo is gone. Can't change it.

Before you write anything, and start being prideful think about the embarrassing event last October at the stadium, what kind of 'savages' treats their guests like that, when they were just a handful?

Polish Guy

pre 9 godina

If the events in Kosovo during March 17-19 of 2004 are to be falsly characterized as a pogrom, then the events in Kosovo 1998-1999 are truly a Genocide that the world was shocked to witness. Denial has only made Serb claims more unbelievable.

Joni

pre 9 godina

I don't agree with the crimes against inocent civils...
That who have done crimes should pay...
But, 98-98- is not to far..., so the "pain" is still there in the "soul", for this people, breaking in pieces the heart every single day of the life....
And there next door, are they who caused all the "hell" named "serbs".., asking for another "war match"..

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

(icj1, 19 March 2015 05:17) Well, it appears the international community is not aware of that; so no need to be disappointed mate because choosing between what the international community believes vs a certain Amnesty Yugoslavia is very easy :)
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I'm not asking you to choose what I believe. My question is whether the international community should believe the writings of a Judge from the ICTY?

(icj1, 19 March 2015 05:17) Sure, "accused", as many other accusations floating around about everybody and everything... so your point is?!

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Your comment that accusations and writings of ICTY Judges are no different than "many other accusations floating around about everybody and everything..." are an accurate reflection of the competency of this false tribunal. I am glad that we finally agree:)

Reader

pre 9 godina

"Then why didn't you guys from B92 write an article of the crimes that your beloved Milosevic did in now Republic of Kosovo...Do not be biased ."

Well, of course they will be biased. They are a Serbian news media. The news media are the same in every country, they are biased, in some countries more than others. In this specific case, they talk about the Serbian victims one by one (as they should, since what happened is condemnable) but not about the Albanian victims. In Albanian newspapers, it is the opposite.

That is why the only way to get to the whole truth is to go to court. Possibly a court set up by international organizations like the UN, and not even by courts in those same countries. Like the Hague for example. Where the wonderful civilisation Serbia showed in the 90's is being rewarded profusely.

Danny Danny Danny

pre 9 godina

"Yeah convicted to pay fines, not a single one of these savages was sent to prison for murdering, slaughtering and ruining churches.
(Daniel, 18 March 2015 14:53) "

"International prosecutors and judges launched seven cases related to the destruction of churches and sentenced 67 people to jail from 21 months to 16 years. "

Did you even read the article??

boom

pre 9 godina

I love how b92 criticizes the media for inflaming the hatred and making things worse, yet calls the event the "pogrom". What is next, holocaust?
Balkan people will never evolve, that is why we are where we are.

The Count of Kosova

pre 9 godina

As a matter of fact, he appears to know much more about Kosova than you.
(The Count of Kosova, 18 March 2015 15:15)

Coming from you and based on what you've posted here over the past few years, I have no doubt you believe that.
(Balkan Anthropologist, 18 March 2015 15:57)

B.A,
I could, easily, claim the same about you, with lots of documentation!
Btw, you still have not answered my initial question, namely, how did you arrive at the conclusion that he has never been to Kosova. Or, are you, Ari and sj cut from the same cloth? I, personally, think you are all the same disturbed chetnik.

sj

pre 9 godina

(icj1, 23 March 2015 02:57)

Once again the CTC proves he has reached new heights of idiocy. Grabbing at straws to prove some ludicrous point that only it understands.
Officially, China respects the “independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine”, and so does Serbia, but unofficially, like it or not, China supports Russia.
Read the headline again or get someone that understands English to read it for you.
“China Backs Russia on Ukraine, Despite its principle of non-interference, domestic and international interests have Beijing siding with Moscow”.

pss

pre 9 godina

With over 1 million jobs lost so far what Kroatia do for 8 months of the year as tourism only 4 months? If weather bad you f**** again like last year.
(sj, 18 March 2015 11:45
With a population of less than 5 million they have lost over 1 million jobs??? What were they doing cutting kindergarten classes short so the kids could work in the afternoon?
You seem to be in one of your manic phases today, after reading your posts I come to the conclusion that if not living in Russia, China or Serbia might as well say your good byes as the rest of the world will just cease to exist in the next few days.
A few European countries investing in a bank to help out Asian infrastructure, is an issue. The World Bank and IMF have been very important in developing the world but the needs have outgrown them. It is time that China to put its money to doing tasks the US has primarily financed for decades. I see no danger in other countries helping the development of countries, after all the US cannot do it all. What you see as the end of the US, I see as an opportunity. I do not believe the US should continue to be the final say.
I use to think there would be actually a triangular approach to the new world order in which there would be an alliance to US, China or Russia, but I think that Russia will need decades if it is possible to enter into that much influence. It might be able to take a couple more territories back to rebuild a new Soviet Union, but it will fail in the end.

icj1

pre 9 godina

If you are referring to the ICTY, then you may be disappointed to read that truth in this institution has been compromised
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 18 March 2015 15:38)

Well, it appears the international community is not aware of that; so no need to be disappointed mate because choosing between what the international community believes vs a certain Amnesty Yugoslavia is very easy :)
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and that former Judge Harhoff has accused the court of succumbing to political manipulation by external power(s).
(Amnesty Yugoslavia, 18 March 2015 15:38)

Sure, "accused", as many other accusations floating around about everybody and everything... so your point is?!

Amnesty Yugoslavia

pre 9 godina

Commentators are vigorously dueling to account for a greater number of transgressions against their "tribe" yet may not have realized that B92 does not recognize these as crime, but instead continues to classify these incidences as "politics" on their website.

pss

pre 9 godina

(sj, 18 March 2015 22:39)
It really does not matter WHO said it or that YOU repeated it, it is still mathematically impossible, even the half that you say!
As far as the rest of your post pure rubbish. There have always been areas where the US and EU have differed but they remain focused on the important issues. You really think this Asian bank is going to collapse the World bank??? Pity you, what happened to the BRICS development bank, don't hear much about that do you, since Russia cannot cough up their portion and it has always been a stretch for India, Brazil on the brink of bankruptcy and South Africa, the whites ferried all the resources out before giving up control.
Russia is not going to be a new world power in the next decade, it will take them that long to recover from the oil issue, that is if the prices rebound within the next year.
The US being washed up? It still plays a huge part of your daily reading so I would not count it out.
China and Russia in bed together, only as long as the US is a threat, if it ceases to be one then you will see the quickest divorce in history. China supporting Russia over Ukraine is a new one and one that I would have to see some real proof, before I would give it a hint of belief.
But like I have always said continue on with your opinions as they are really harmless.

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

"I can see that you have never been to one and if you have its only to clean the classrooms."

i've had far wittier insults levelled at me than this, but then coming from a guy ho concocts bs stories about being paid in EURO's in 1994, it isn't to be surprised.

icj1

pre 9 godina

[link]/
(sj, 20 March 2015 11:10)

Thx sj for providing the link that proves that China does not support Russia in regards to Ukraine. I quote from the link you provided:

"As for external interference in the Ukraine, Qin emphasized that China respects “the independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine” and said that a solution should be found “based on respect for international law and norms.”"