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Monday, 16.02.2015.

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Anniversary of terrorist attack on bus in Kosovo

Monday marks 14 years since a Nis Express bus came under attack in Livadice, near Podujevo in Kosovo, when 12 people were killed.

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pss

pre 9 godina

Ah the many faces of sj!
"By the way Kosova has no legal system because the EU runs everything.
(sj, 16 February 2015 11:46)"
but yet
You have had an Albanian administration since 1999 and what have they done since that time? NOTHING except line their pockets.
The EU will leave Kosovo to the Serbs and you guys cant do a thing about it
(sj, 17 February 2015 15:08)
# Comment link
So one has to ask is it an Albanian administration or is it controlled by the EU?? just depends on what message sj is trying to convince everyone.

One minute the EU created Kosovo to keep the muslims isolated, the next the EU is going to turn Kosovo over to Serbia.
The EU and US can no longer afford to support Kosovo but yet Serbia whose only income is from whatever source they can beg, borrow, or steal from, is the only hope for Kosovo.

icj1

pre 9 godina

Icj1 = internet spam troll
(Ratko, 18 February 2015 13:40)

thx mate for showing that you could not find anything else to refute my arguments and facts :)

Joni

pre 9 godina

All the EU know very well the history of Kosovo land, just you guys don't know it yet... What kind of history do you learn?? No one of the EU states hate Serbia and love more Albania.
No one of this "states" will donate this "privilege" to Albania if it is not the right thing... Not for sure!!!!
You guys, will remain "victims" of your own propaganda for a long time... That's too bad......

icj1

pre 9 godina

There has never been a state of Kosovo and there will never be
(Daniel, 16 February 2015 15:31)

And I say that there has never been a state of Serbia and there will never be

The only problem with both your and my statement is that more than 100 countries disagree :)

icj1

pre 9 godina

Serbs have been in that region well before 6 century mate.
(sj, 17 February 2015 15:08)

So, since when, then? the 6th, 60th or 600th century BC?
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The EU will leave Kosovo to the Serbs and you guys cant do a thing about it
(sj, 17 February 2015 15:08)

But Serbs would not want it if they are sane. Haven't you read the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj that Kosovo has nothing at all – no energy, water or minerals. Or the postings of the most patriotic of Serbs about how Kosovo is a black hole with more than a million criminals living there, etc etc etc... What sane country would want something like that to become part of that country?!!!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 9 godina

Can you explain to all why it says in the UN resolution 1244 that kosovo is a part of Serbia?
(Daniel, 16 February 2015 17:37)

I'm afraid that nobody will be able to explain that to you for the simple fact that UN resolution 1244 says nowhere that "kosovo is a part of Serbia" so, obviously, nobody can explain something that does not exist.

I totally get it that you've been brainwashed by years of propaganda to believe that, but you can check by yourself one of the official versions of UNSCR 1244 in Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Russian or Spanish http://www.un.org/Docs/journal/asp/ws.asp?m=S/RES/1244%281999%29. Sorry mate that you have been misled for such a long time.

I would not recommend the Serbian version since it's not official and it's well known for containing stuff which is not in the official versions :)

icj1

pre 9 godina

LOL and yet an article about an unsolved crime committed by Albanians against Serbs is met with complete denial, excuses, and coverups by every Albanian troll here because they can't handle the truth.
(Albo Troll Wrangler, 17 February 2015 16:03)

Your post is contradictory. On one side you mention "an unsolved crime" and on the same sentence you have solved it and determined that it was "committed by Albanians" !!! So, which part of your sentence should we trust?

For the record, there is no excuse for the killing of 12 innocent people, regardless of what their ethnicity is and the people who did it are just criminals, regardless of what their ethnicity is.

icj1

pre 9 godina

See there's a difference between not wanting to join, and not being able to ;)
(Ari Gold, 16 February 2015 19:09)

Exactly! You made a great point to prove that Kosovo is similar to Switzerland's case since Kosovo has not applied to join the UN. That's different from, for example, Taiwan's case which applied for UN Membership but it was rejected.
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When real countries like South Sudan declared independence just 2 years ago, they were already accepted within weeks actually.
(Ari Gold, 16 February 2015 19:09)

I'm sure that Kosovo has no desire to be a "real country" like this http://www.un.org/press/en/2014/sc11363.doc.htm
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Here we are, 7 years later and you cannot join the UN unless Serbia gives you permission.
(Ari Gold, 16 February 2015 19:09)

Sorry, I perhaps missed it. When did the UN Charter change to make Serbia a permanent member of the Security Council or give Serbia 65 votes in the UN General Assembly?
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Sorry, but immediately after 2008, the important countries who were going to recognize your declaration already did so. This project reached its climax soon after that and has been on a downward slope ever since.
(Ari Gold, 16 February 2015 19:09)

Well, if doubling the number of recognitions from 2008 to present means a "downward slope", Kosovo is OK with that so you don't have to be sorry. You see mate is just a matter of definitions :)

icj1

pre 9 godina

There are no doubts that "indepent Kosovo" is a joke, a lie and a crime.
(Gianfranco, 17 February 2015 10:43)

Sorry, but your sentence does not make sense. An "indepent Kosovo" can't be a "lie" and a "crime" at the same time. It is either a "lie" and therefore does not exist or it does exist and therefore it is a "crime"... You're being too emotional to make sense with your reasoning (if any) mate lol

ida

pre 9 godina

The truth is that Albanians have committed terrorists acts against Serbs with impunity under cover of western forces.

Yet you have Albanians traveling through Serbia on buses and they are not abused nor harassed. Serbs a big softies.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

@ Peggy

We are Kosovar Albanians which means we are Albanians from Kosova.
I can tell how much you know about albanians. hahahah
(Loda, 17 February 2015 16:04)
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WT?
That's what I said. You are Albanians. You just confirmed what I said and you are arguing? There is no such race as Kosovars. There are only Albanians from Kosovo just like Serbs from Kosovo.

So what was your argument about?

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Why do Australians, Canadians, and Americans mostly speak English?
(Peggy, Peggy, Peggy, 17 February 2015 10:02)
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Because that's who colinized those lands. Nobody is saying that the English were there before indigenous people. How long have Albanians been in Kosovo? How long has Kosovar race existed? When was Kosovar recognised as a race?
In any case you all call yourselves Albanians. You only say you are Kosovars when it's convenient.
Do you have any answers for me?

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 9 godina

Serbs are allergic to the truth...
(Joni, 17 February 2015 11:38)

LOL and yet an article about an unsolved crime committed by Albanians against Serbs is met with complete denial, excuses, and coverups by every Albanian troll here because they can't handle the truth. You have the nerve to say other people are allergic to the truth when you can't even face your own music? You have the nerve to point the finger at someone else when anyone in Albanian society who wants to speak truth is suddenly killed? No wonder you're the most despised people in Europe with governments working overtime to turn the flood of your refugee population back because they won't want you anywhere near their countries.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Joni, 17 February 2015 11:38)

As your brethren are leaving the paradise called Kosova in their hundreds today who do you blame this on now? Milosevic? You have had an Albanian administration since 1999 and what have they done since that time? NOTHING except line their pockets. So I guess it’s all Milosevic’s fault again eh?
Serbs have been in that region well before 6 century mate. However there is no record of Albanians there or perhaps your now also claiming Illyrian ancestry LOL.
The EU will leave Kosovo to the Serbs and you guys cant do a thing about it

Daniel

pre 9 godina

It is very easy to find the terrorists of this tragedy.They all have villas in Dedinje.If you want real peace wipe dedinje off the map.This is only one of millions terrorist activities they have done around the ex yu.
(Dori, 17 February 2015 00:39)""

Yeah of course a serb put a mine under a bus with serb passengers since you are always innocent as lambs right? Its never you its always someone else. Unlike you that staged the racak "massacre" and killed your own in order for NATO to intervene we dont kill our own.

Rocky

pre 9 godina

The link I was trying to provide seems to have gotten all tangle up here at b92? Maybe the editing caused the issue?
Working perfectly fine on my end, let's give it 1 more shot..

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preševo_Valley

Demi

pre 9 godina

How about Albanians in Albania? Kosovo is Serbian land and there is no such race is Kosovars.
If you people really feel like you're Kosovars why then do you keep flying the Albanian flag all the time and why do you speak Albanian?
Peace will only come when Albanians leave Serbs alone and stop stealing other people's land.
(Peggy, 17 February 2015 02:36


Hey how could we steal ''your'' land when you serbs came from caucaus area Russia or Ukraine 700 years ago. Albanians are decent of Illyrians and native people of the Balkans. Kosova and Albnia should and will be one country one day! Its Albanian land!

Joni

pre 9 godina

Serbs are allergic to the truth...
They still don't understand what Milosevic have done to Serbia..!!! O yes.., for a serb all are guilty except "them". Keep thinking Albania is guilty for all...Kosovo....was...and will be forever an Albanian land... Was part of Ex.Jugoslavia....but never was Serbia...
Finally....the EU members, have repaired the "error" done against Albanians people..
And.. if a serb tell to me Kosovo is Serbia... i am "forced" to tell him, go and read the story...
Or..firstly, find the origin of the Serian migration on the VI century.....and then talk to Albanian lands.....

Peggy, Peggy, Peggy

pre 9 godina

"If you people really feel like you're Kosovars why then do you keep flying the Albanian flag all the time and why do you speak Albanian?"

Why do Australians, Canadians, and Americans mostly speak English?

Gianfranco

pre 9 godina

The truth is that if Vaso Čubrilović's plan would have been implemented, Kosovo would still be a civilized land (while it's not now).
And another truth is that Tito was responsible too of what's happening now, avoiding Serbs to return to Kosovo and allowing albanians from Albania to move there.
There are no doubts that "indepent Kosovo" is a joke, a lie and a crime. This land is Serbia. What albanians did in Kosovo? Did they build any church? Did they build any mine? Did they build any factory?
No. They just introduced mafia, criminality and stole resources to Serbia and Yugoslavia who was giving autonomy and money to them.
I repeat: if Vaso Čubrilović had implemented his plan, Kosovo would be a civilized land now.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Hey Daniel, Ari Gold and the rest. Kosova is long gone from you, and there is nothing you can do.

Happy Independence Day to Kosova :):)
(Albi, 17 February 2015 01:23)

Man, you can a few more smilies, if you think it will help cover up your insecurity. Fact is, no one in Kosovo-Metohija is smiling right now, especially not Albanians. They are leaving bro, trying to get the hell out even if it means walking. The ones with no ties to the drug/organ/human trafficking rackets are eating the ground. It's really sad.

So when you say that "there's nothing you can do about it", I promise you there is nothing I want to do about it, so long as Albanians believe in this make-believe "republjik". And all Serbia has to do is make sure the status quo remains the same and things will continue falling into place.

just an opinion

pre 9 godina

Kosovo is southern Serbia.
(Daniel, 16 February 2015 17:35)
Kosovo WAS in southern Serbia!
We could waste months debating the issue but not only do over 100 countries and several international organizations agree with me but Serbia has made it a point to demand that everyone who has not recognized to treat Kosovo as status neutral which means that neither the UN or EU can refer to Kosovo as part of Serbia. (Again at the demands of Serbia itself)

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Albanians and Serbs cannot live together. Maybee now we can live next to eachother. Serbs in Serbia and Albanians in Kosova.

Real peace will come is when Serbia will leave Kosova and its Albanian population alone.
(Demi, 16 February 2015 23:08)
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How about Albanians in Albania? Kosovo is Serbian land and there is no such race is Kosovars.
If you people really feel like you're Kosovars why then do you keep flying the Albanian flag all the time and why do you speak Albanian?
Peace will only come when Albanians leave Serbs alone and stop stealing other people's land.

Albi

pre 9 godina

There has never been a state of Kosovo and there will never be, Kosovo is Serbia now and forever.
(Daniel, 16 February 2015 15:31)

"Kosovo is Serbia as much as my mother is a virgin" - Zlatan Ibrahimovic

Hey Daniel, Ari Gold and the rest. Kosova is long gone from you, and there is nothing you can do. Time for you clowns to admit the truth that Kosovo is an independent state, something that deeply even your government knows and they will recognize if not too distance future.

Happy Independence Day to Kosova :):)

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Albanians and Serbs cannot live together. Maybee now we can live next to eachother. Serbs in Serbia and Albanians in Kosova.

Real peace will come is when Serbia will leave Kosova and its Albanian population alone.
(Demi, 16 February 2015 23:08)

Maybe Albanians to Albania? That's where thousands of families came from during Tito's Yugoslavia. But I find it hilarious that after so many acts of ethnic cleansing and genocide to the Serb population in Kosovo-Metohija, it is now down to 10%. So 90% Albanians has led to the impoverished black hole that we have today...but if it were only 100%, things would be better.

Except its your own people who are stealing from you. Thaci&Co. Your own criminals make Kosovo-Metohija an unsafe and deprived place and useful idiots such as yourself will ignore that and focus on your raging fascism and intolerance for others.

Yet its your own kleptocrats that will keep you up to your knees in poverty and the only way out is to be 1 of 200 in a 45 person bus.
http://www.pravda.rs/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/nova-zastava.jpg

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 9 godina

Don't forget, we still have 1.6 or 7 million ready to take your radical Serbia on if need be!!!
(Rocky, 16 February 2015 17:39)

LOL no you don't. Last time you rats tried that you were blown into Albania and begged the US to help you. Now it's not even a battle since all Albanians are paying Serbs money to smuggle them through "radical Serbia" into Central Europe.

American Eagle

pre 9 godina

Everyone with half a brain knows very well that prior to 1938 the Presevo valley belonged to the territory of Kosova
(Rocky, 16 February 2015 17:39)

What part of your ass did you pull that tidbit out of? Presevo was part of the Vardar Banovina from 1929 until 1941, but so was all of Macedonia. You next going to say Macedonia is part of Kosovo too?

Don't even attempt to question anyone else's intelligence when you have none of your own. The rest of your post isn't worth responding to since it screams of immature trolling. It's bad enough you're too stupid and ignorant to know basic history but it's even worse when you make shit up.

Dori

pre 9 godina

It is very easy to find the terrorists of this tragedy.They all have villas in Dedinje.If you want real peace wipe dedinje off the map.This is only one of millions terrorist activities they have done around the ex yu.

Demi

pre 9 godina

Its a sad story ofcourse. Just as sad as those 12 000 Albanians who got killed by serbian military and paramilitary in 1998-99.

It could have been serbian secret services who did this crime to blaim Albanians. This has happend before.. Or some poor Young Albanian who's whole family was murdered by Serbian forces and took revenge.

Albanians and Serbs cannot live together. Maybee now we can live next to eachother. Serbs in Serbia and Albanians in Kosova.

Real peace will come is when Serbia will leave Kosova and its Albanian population alone.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

@Daniel,
Switzerland did not have a UN seat till 2002, and was a state/sovereign country. Now, can you explain that to all of us , pleaseeeeeee!?
(the truth, 16 February 2015 16:16)

I'd be happy to. So Switzerland has historically maintained a policy of neutrality which kept it from joining many international organizations. Thus, Switzerland saw joining the UN as an infringement of that policy so they stayed out. When they decided it was important to them, they applied to join and were accepted in months.

See there's a difference between not wanting to join, and not being able to ;) When real countries like South Sudan declared independence just 2 years ago, they were already accepted within weeks actually. Here we are, 7 years later and you cannot join the UN unless Serbia gives you permission.

My greatest fear is the Serb gov't buckling on its national interests in exchange for a pat on the back from the crumbling EU. With the mass exodus of Albanians from Kosovo-Metohija and all the countless amount of problems there, it would be stupid of Serbia to allow you something you have no ability to get by yourself.

Sorry, but immediately after 2008, the important countries who were going to recognize your declaration already did so. This project reached its climax soon after that and has been on a downward slope ever since. Let's just hope Serbia stands strong because otherwise, there is nothing you can do.

Rocky

pre 9 godina

Everyone with half a brain knows very well that prior to 1938 the Presevo valley belonged to the territory of Kosova, they know it was majority inhabited by Albanians, they know it was ripped away from Kosova to try and manipulate the ethnic composition of the fact that kosova was almost completely inhabited by her ancient people the Albanians!!! Now, slew all the sh.. U want, now one is buying that crap! Facts are facts, and even Serbia cants twist the facts, although she is free to try!
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preševo_Valley

Now kid, its past your Chetnik bedtime, and don't forget to put your hand grenades & milosevich's portrait back in the closet!
The Republic of Kosova is free, and she will continue to be free! Even if 200,000 of her inhabitants have left, according to your estimates? Don't forget, we still have 1.6 or 7 million ready to take your radical Serbia on if need be!!!
Now I'm getting ready to celebrate Kosova's 7th year of independence, with no Serbian state presence in sight, thank god & good riddance

Try reading it enlightens the brain

pre 9 godina

There has never been a state of Kosovo and there will never be, Kosovo is Serbia now and forever. Read 1244, you dont have a UN seat and will never have. For the last month 200 000 are fleeing from Kosovo again more and more every day.
(Daniel, 16 February 2015 15:31)
Maybe you should read 1244 before you tell anyone else to!
"e.Facilitating a political process designed to determine Kosovo's future status, taking into account the Rambouillet accords (S/1999/648);"

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Plus it seems like the majority of these Albanians were coming from southern Serbia and not from Kosovo.
(just an opinion, 16 February 2015 16:44)"

Kosovo is southern Serbia.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Switzerland did not have a UN seat till 2002, and was a state/sovereign country. Now, can you explain that to all of us , pleaseeeeeee!?
(the truth, 16 February 2015 16:16)"

Can you explain to all why it says in the UN resolution 1244 that kosovo is a part of Serbia?

Navi

pre 9 godina

When did the Albanian population cross over to the Serbian state to carry out terrorist actions against the civilian population of Serbia? Provide 1, just one instance of Kosovar's crossing into Serbia soil committing crimes against Serbia!!!
(Rocky, 16 February 2015 14:43)

You want one? Ok.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1166322.stm

You really didn't think this out did you?

the truth

pre 9 godina

You can't, as it never occurred! Now, that is why we have 2 separate states, as we can never again live under 1 together again!!!
(Rocky, 16 February 2015 14:43)""

There has never been a state of Kosovo and there will never be, Kosovo is Serbia now and forever. Read 1244, you dont have a UN seat and will never have. For the last month 200 000 are fleeing from Kosovo again more and more every day.
(Daniel, 16 February 2015 15:31)

@Daniel,
Switzerland did not have a UN seat till 2002, and was a state/sovereign country. Now, can you explain that to all of us , pleaseeeeeee!?

just an opinion

pre 9 godina

You really didn't think this out did you?
(Navi, 16 February 2015 16:23
Read the article that a training camp was set up, but did not read anywhere that any criminal activities took place. Plus it seems like the majority of these Albanians were coming from southern Serbia and not from Kosovo.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

You can't, as it never occurred! Now, that is why we have 2 separate states, as we can never again live under 1 together again!!!
(Rocky, 16 February 2015 14:43)""

There has never been a state of Kosovo and there will never be, Kosovo is Serbia now and forever. Read 1244, you dont have a UN seat and will never have. For the last month 200 000 are fleeing from Kosovo again more and more every day.

American Eagle

pre 9 godina

Rocky, you're a special type of stupid aren't you? The Podujevo bus bombing is well known and sadly covered up by Kosovo Albanian authorities who haven't even bothered to look for the perpetrators. You can make whatever empty chest thumping propagandistic statements you want from America and it still won't cover up the crime. You're only looking like an immature ass trying to shout out the attention given to something embarrassing for your own side. Amazing for someone who likes to think he's superior to Serbs you act and think worse than the worst of them. On a Serbian site no less.

The Albanians didn't need to cross into Serbian territory and attack them because they were too busy terrorizing Serbs throughout Kosovo, which was, if your feeble brain can remember, part of Serbia. Murder, kidnapping, organ harvesting, looting, shooting at children from a distance, arson, grave desecration, these are all part of the Albanian terror campaign against innocent Serbs. Not my fault you're too stupid, ignorant, or both to remember it.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

When did the Albanian population cross over to the Serbian state to carry out terrorist actions against the civilian population of Serbia? Provide 1, just one instance of Kosovar's crossing into Serbia soil committing crimes against Serbia!!! ""

You didnt have to cross anything since the war was in Kosovo, Serbia and its a fact that you committed horrible crimes vs the civilians serbian population in the SERBIAN province of Kosovo. And you also committed horrible crimes in Bujanovac, Medvedja and Presevo when your KLA terrorists killed several civilians and policemen. Terorists, butchers and savages thats what you are. Lower than the lowest.

Rocky

pre 9 godina

Good try radical Serbia!
The entire civilized world was witness to the fact that it was the Serbian state that was carrying out the barbaric terrorist actions against the innocent civilian population of Kosova ,which happened to be the 90% majority Albanians! It was the Serbian super terrorist state which gave orders to her army, to ethnically cleanse Kosova of her majority Albanian population thru acts of terrorism & barbarism!
http://youtu.be/4UDbJXT2JJw

When did the Albanian population cross over to the Serbian state to carry out terrorist actions against the civilian population of Serbia? Provide 1, just one instance of Kosovar's crossing into Serbia soil committing crimes against Serbia!!!
You can't, as it never occurred! Now, that is why we have 2 separate states, as we can never again live under 1 together again!!!

American Eagle

pre 9 godina

Rocky, you're a special type of stupid aren't you? The Podujevo bus bombing is well known and sadly covered up by Kosovo Albanian authorities who haven't even bothered to look for the perpetrators. You can make whatever empty chest thumping propagandistic statements you want from America and it still won't cover up the crime. You're only looking like an immature ass trying to shout out the attention given to something embarrassing for your own side. Amazing for someone who likes to think he's superior to Serbs you act and think worse than the worst of them. On a Serbian site no less.

The Albanians didn't need to cross into Serbian territory and attack them because they were too busy terrorizing Serbs throughout Kosovo, which was, if your feeble brain can remember, part of Serbia. Murder, kidnapping, organ harvesting, looting, shooting at children from a distance, arson, grave desecration, these are all part of the Albanian terror campaign against innocent Serbs. Not my fault you're too stupid, ignorant, or both to remember it.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

You can't, as it never occurred! Now, that is why we have 2 separate states, as we can never again live under 1 together again!!!
(Rocky, 16 February 2015 14:43)""

There has never been a state of Kosovo and there will never be, Kosovo is Serbia now and forever. Read 1244, you dont have a UN seat and will never have. For the last month 200 000 are fleeing from Kosovo again more and more every day.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

When did the Albanian population cross over to the Serbian state to carry out terrorist actions against the civilian population of Serbia? Provide 1, just one instance of Kosovar's crossing into Serbia soil committing crimes against Serbia!!! ""

You didnt have to cross anything since the war was in Kosovo, Serbia and its a fact that you committed horrible crimes vs the civilians serbian population in the SERBIAN province of Kosovo. And you also committed horrible crimes in Bujanovac, Medvedja and Presevo when your KLA terrorists killed several civilians and policemen. Terorists, butchers and savages thats what you are. Lower than the lowest.

Navi

pre 9 godina

When did the Albanian population cross over to the Serbian state to carry out terrorist actions against the civilian population of Serbia? Provide 1, just one instance of Kosovar's crossing into Serbia soil committing crimes against Serbia!!!
(Rocky, 16 February 2015 14:43)

You want one? Ok.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1166322.stm

You really didn't think this out did you?

Rocky

pre 9 godina

Good try radical Serbia!
The entire civilized world was witness to the fact that it was the Serbian state that was carrying out the barbaric terrorist actions against the innocent civilian population of Kosova ,which happened to be the 90% majority Albanians! It was the Serbian super terrorist state which gave orders to her army, to ethnically cleanse Kosova of her majority Albanian population thru acts of terrorism & barbarism!
http://youtu.be/4UDbJXT2JJw

When did the Albanian population cross over to the Serbian state to carry out terrorist actions against the civilian population of Serbia? Provide 1, just one instance of Kosovar's crossing into Serbia soil committing crimes against Serbia!!!
You can't, as it never occurred! Now, that is why we have 2 separate states, as we can never again live under 1 together again!!!

the truth

pre 9 godina

You can't, as it never occurred! Now, that is why we have 2 separate states, as we can never again live under 1 together again!!!
(Rocky, 16 February 2015 14:43)""

There has never been a state of Kosovo and there will never be, Kosovo is Serbia now and forever. Read 1244, you dont have a UN seat and will never have. For the last month 200 000 are fleeing from Kosovo again more and more every day.
(Daniel, 16 February 2015 15:31)

@Daniel,
Switzerland did not have a UN seat till 2002, and was a state/sovereign country. Now, can you explain that to all of us , pleaseeeeeee!?

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Plus it seems like the majority of these Albanians were coming from southern Serbia and not from Kosovo.
(just an opinion, 16 February 2015 16:44)"

Kosovo is southern Serbia.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

@Daniel,
Switzerland did not have a UN seat till 2002, and was a state/sovereign country. Now, can you explain that to all of us , pleaseeeeeee!?
(the truth, 16 February 2015 16:16)

I'd be happy to. So Switzerland has historically maintained a policy of neutrality which kept it from joining many international organizations. Thus, Switzerland saw joining the UN as an infringement of that policy so they stayed out. When they decided it was important to them, they applied to join and were accepted in months.

See there's a difference between not wanting to join, and not being able to ;) When real countries like South Sudan declared independence just 2 years ago, they were already accepted within weeks actually. Here we are, 7 years later and you cannot join the UN unless Serbia gives you permission.

My greatest fear is the Serb gov't buckling on its national interests in exchange for a pat on the back from the crumbling EU. With the mass exodus of Albanians from Kosovo-Metohija and all the countless amount of problems there, it would be stupid of Serbia to allow you something you have no ability to get by yourself.

Sorry, but immediately after 2008, the important countries who were going to recognize your declaration already did so. This project reached its climax soon after that and has been on a downward slope ever since. Let's just hope Serbia stands strong because otherwise, there is nothing you can do.

Gianfranco

pre 9 godina

The truth is that if Vaso Čubrilović's plan would have been implemented, Kosovo would still be a civilized land (while it's not now).
And another truth is that Tito was responsible too of what's happening now, avoiding Serbs to return to Kosovo and allowing albanians from Albania to move there.
There are no doubts that "indepent Kosovo" is a joke, a lie and a crime. This land is Serbia. What albanians did in Kosovo? Did they build any church? Did they build any mine? Did they build any factory?
No. They just introduced mafia, criminality and stole resources to Serbia and Yugoslavia who was giving autonomy and money to them.
I repeat: if Vaso Čubrilović had implemented his plan, Kosovo would be a civilized land now.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Switzerland did not have a UN seat till 2002, and was a state/sovereign country. Now, can you explain that to all of us , pleaseeeeeee!?
(the truth, 16 February 2015 16:16)"

Can you explain to all why it says in the UN resolution 1244 that kosovo is a part of Serbia?

just an opinion

pre 9 godina

You really didn't think this out did you?
(Navi, 16 February 2015 16:23
Read the article that a training camp was set up, but did not read anywhere that any criminal activities took place. Plus it seems like the majority of these Albanians were coming from southern Serbia and not from Kosovo.

American Eagle

pre 9 godina

Everyone with half a brain knows very well that prior to 1938 the Presevo valley belonged to the territory of Kosova
(Rocky, 16 February 2015 17:39)

What part of your ass did you pull that tidbit out of? Presevo was part of the Vardar Banovina from 1929 until 1941, but so was all of Macedonia. You next going to say Macedonia is part of Kosovo too?

Don't even attempt to question anyone else's intelligence when you have none of your own. The rest of your post isn't worth responding to since it screams of immature trolling. It's bad enough you're too stupid and ignorant to know basic history but it's even worse when you make shit up.

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 9 godina

Don't forget, we still have 1.6 or 7 million ready to take your radical Serbia on if need be!!!
(Rocky, 16 February 2015 17:39)

LOL no you don't. Last time you rats tried that you were blown into Albania and begged the US to help you. Now it's not even a battle since all Albanians are paying Serbs money to smuggle them through "radical Serbia" into Central Europe.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Hey Daniel, Ari Gold and the rest. Kosova is long gone from you, and there is nothing you can do.

Happy Independence Day to Kosova :):)
(Albi, 17 February 2015 01:23)

Man, you can a few more smilies, if you think it will help cover up your insecurity. Fact is, no one in Kosovo-Metohija is smiling right now, especially not Albanians. They are leaving bro, trying to get the hell out even if it means walking. The ones with no ties to the drug/organ/human trafficking rackets are eating the ground. It's really sad.

So when you say that "there's nothing you can do about it", I promise you there is nothing I want to do about it, so long as Albanians believe in this make-believe "republjik". And all Serbia has to do is make sure the status quo remains the same and things will continue falling into place.

Peggy, Peggy, Peggy

pre 9 godina

"If you people really feel like you're Kosovars why then do you keep flying the Albanian flag all the time and why do you speak Albanian?"

Why do Australians, Canadians, and Americans mostly speak English?

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 9 godina

Serbs are allergic to the truth...
(Joni, 17 February 2015 11:38)

LOL and yet an article about an unsolved crime committed by Albanians against Serbs is met with complete denial, excuses, and coverups by every Albanian troll here because they can't handle the truth. You have the nerve to say other people are allergic to the truth when you can't even face your own music? You have the nerve to point the finger at someone else when anyone in Albanian society who wants to speak truth is suddenly killed? No wonder you're the most despised people in Europe with governments working overtime to turn the flood of your refugee population back because they won't want you anywhere near their countries.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Albanians and Serbs cannot live together. Maybee now we can live next to eachother. Serbs in Serbia and Albanians in Kosova.

Real peace will come is when Serbia will leave Kosova and its Albanian population alone.
(Demi, 16 February 2015 23:08)

Maybe Albanians to Albania? That's where thousands of families came from during Tito's Yugoslavia. But I find it hilarious that after so many acts of ethnic cleansing and genocide to the Serb population in Kosovo-Metohija, it is now down to 10%. So 90% Albanians has led to the impoverished black hole that we have today...but if it were only 100%, things would be better.

Except its your own people who are stealing from you. Thaci&Co. Your own criminals make Kosovo-Metohija an unsafe and deprived place and useful idiots such as yourself will ignore that and focus on your raging fascism and intolerance for others.

Yet its your own kleptocrats that will keep you up to your knees in poverty and the only way out is to be 1 of 200 in a 45 person bus.
http://www.pravda.rs/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/nova-zastava.jpg

icj1

pre 9 godina

Can you explain to all why it says in the UN resolution 1244 that kosovo is a part of Serbia?
(Daniel, 16 February 2015 17:37)

I'm afraid that nobody will be able to explain that to you for the simple fact that UN resolution 1244 says nowhere that "kosovo is a part of Serbia" so, obviously, nobody can explain something that does not exist.

I totally get it that you've been brainwashed by years of propaganda to believe that, but you can check by yourself one of the official versions of UNSCR 1244 in Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Russian or Spanish http://www.un.org/Docs/journal/asp/ws.asp?m=S/RES/1244%281999%29. Sorry mate that you have been misled for such a long time.

I would not recommend the Serbian version since it's not official and it's well known for containing stuff which is not in the official versions :)

icj1

pre 9 godina

Icj1 = internet spam troll
(Ratko, 18 February 2015 13:40)

thx mate for showing that you could not find anything else to refute my arguments and facts :)

Rocky

pre 9 godina

Everyone with half a brain knows very well that prior to 1938 the Presevo valley belonged to the territory of Kosova, they know it was majority inhabited by Albanians, they know it was ripped away from Kosova to try and manipulate the ethnic composition of the fact that kosova was almost completely inhabited by her ancient people the Albanians!!! Now, slew all the sh.. U want, now one is buying that crap! Facts are facts, and even Serbia cants twist the facts, although she is free to try!
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preševo_Valley

Now kid, its past your Chetnik bedtime, and don't forget to put your hand grenades & milosevich's portrait back in the closet!
The Republic of Kosova is free, and she will continue to be free! Even if 200,000 of her inhabitants have left, according to your estimates? Don't forget, we still have 1.6 or 7 million ready to take your radical Serbia on if need be!!!
Now I'm getting ready to celebrate Kosova's 7th year of independence, with no Serbian state presence in sight, thank god & good riddance

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Albanians and Serbs cannot live together. Maybee now we can live next to eachother. Serbs in Serbia and Albanians in Kosova.

Real peace will come is when Serbia will leave Kosova and its Albanian population alone.
(Demi, 16 February 2015 23:08)
================================
How about Albanians in Albania? Kosovo is Serbian land and there is no such race is Kosovars.
If you people really feel like you're Kosovars why then do you keep flying the Albanian flag all the time and why do you speak Albanian?
Peace will only come when Albanians leave Serbs alone and stop stealing other people's land.

Try reading it enlightens the brain

pre 9 godina

There has never been a state of Kosovo and there will never be, Kosovo is Serbia now and forever. Read 1244, you dont have a UN seat and will never have. For the last month 200 000 are fleeing from Kosovo again more and more every day.
(Daniel, 16 February 2015 15:31)
Maybe you should read 1244 before you tell anyone else to!
"e.Facilitating a political process designed to determine Kosovo's future status, taking into account the Rambouillet accords (S/1999/648);"

Albi

pre 9 godina

There has never been a state of Kosovo and there will never be, Kosovo is Serbia now and forever.
(Daniel, 16 February 2015 15:31)

"Kosovo is Serbia as much as my mother is a virgin" - Zlatan Ibrahimovic

Hey Daniel, Ari Gold and the rest. Kosova is long gone from you, and there is nothing you can do. Time for you clowns to admit the truth that Kosovo is an independent state, something that deeply even your government knows and they will recognize if not too distance future.

Happy Independence Day to Kosova :):)

sj

pre 9 godina

(Joni, 17 February 2015 11:38)

As your brethren are leaving the paradise called Kosova in their hundreds today who do you blame this on now? Milosevic? You have had an Albanian administration since 1999 and what have they done since that time? NOTHING except line their pockets. So I guess it’s all Milosevic’s fault again eh?
Serbs have been in that region well before 6 century mate. However there is no record of Albanians there or perhaps your now also claiming Illyrian ancestry LOL.
The EU will leave Kosovo to the Serbs and you guys cant do a thing about it

Demi

pre 9 godina

Its a sad story ofcourse. Just as sad as those 12 000 Albanians who got killed by serbian military and paramilitary in 1998-99.

It could have been serbian secret services who did this crime to blaim Albanians. This has happend before.. Or some poor Young Albanian who's whole family was murdered by Serbian forces and took revenge.

Albanians and Serbs cannot live together. Maybee now we can live next to eachother. Serbs in Serbia and Albanians in Kosova.

Real peace will come is when Serbia will leave Kosova and its Albanian population alone.

Dori

pre 9 godina

It is very easy to find the terrorists of this tragedy.They all have villas in Dedinje.If you want real peace wipe dedinje off the map.This is only one of millions terrorist activities they have done around the ex yu.

Joni

pre 9 godina

Serbs are allergic to the truth...
They still don't understand what Milosevic have done to Serbia..!!! O yes.., for a serb all are guilty except "them". Keep thinking Albania is guilty for all...Kosovo....was...and will be forever an Albanian land... Was part of Ex.Jugoslavia....but never was Serbia...
Finally....the EU members, have repaired the "error" done against Albanians people..
And.. if a serb tell to me Kosovo is Serbia... i am "forced" to tell him, go and read the story...
Or..firstly, find the origin of the Serian migration on the VI century.....and then talk to Albanian lands.....

Demi

pre 9 godina

How about Albanians in Albania? Kosovo is Serbian land and there is no such race is Kosovars.
If you people really feel like you're Kosovars why then do you keep flying the Albanian flag all the time and why do you speak Albanian?
Peace will only come when Albanians leave Serbs alone and stop stealing other people's land.
(Peggy, 17 February 2015 02:36


Hey how could we steal ''your'' land when you serbs came from caucaus area Russia or Ukraine 700 years ago. Albanians are decent of Illyrians and native people of the Balkans. Kosova and Albnia should and will be one country one day! Its Albanian land!

Peggy

pre 9 godina

@ Peggy

We are Kosovar Albanians which means we are Albanians from Kosova.
I can tell how much you know about albanians. hahahah
(Loda, 17 February 2015 16:04)
=============================
WT?
That's what I said. You are Albanians. You just confirmed what I said and you are arguing? There is no such race as Kosovars. There are only Albanians from Kosovo just like Serbs from Kosovo.

So what was your argument about?

icj1

pre 9 godina

There are no doubts that "indepent Kosovo" is a joke, a lie and a crime.
(Gianfranco, 17 February 2015 10:43)

Sorry, but your sentence does not make sense. An "indepent Kosovo" can't be a "lie" and a "crime" at the same time. It is either a "lie" and therefore does not exist or it does exist and therefore it is a "crime"... You're being too emotional to make sense with your reasoning (if any) mate lol

just an opinion

pre 9 godina

Kosovo is southern Serbia.
(Daniel, 16 February 2015 17:35)
Kosovo WAS in southern Serbia!
We could waste months debating the issue but not only do over 100 countries and several international organizations agree with me but Serbia has made it a point to demand that everyone who has not recognized to treat Kosovo as status neutral which means that neither the UN or EU can refer to Kosovo as part of Serbia. (Again at the demands of Serbia itself)

Daniel

pre 9 godina

It is very easy to find the terrorists of this tragedy.They all have villas in Dedinje.If you want real peace wipe dedinje off the map.This is only one of millions terrorist activities they have done around the ex yu.
(Dori, 17 February 2015 00:39)""

Yeah of course a serb put a mine under a bus with serb passengers since you are always innocent as lambs right? Its never you its always someone else. Unlike you that staged the racak "massacre" and killed your own in order for NATO to intervene we dont kill our own.

ida

pre 9 godina

The truth is that Albanians have committed terrorists acts against Serbs with impunity under cover of western forces.

Yet you have Albanians traveling through Serbia on buses and they are not abused nor harassed. Serbs a big softies.

icj1

pre 9 godina

LOL and yet an article about an unsolved crime committed by Albanians against Serbs is met with complete denial, excuses, and coverups by every Albanian troll here because they can't handle the truth.
(Albo Troll Wrangler, 17 February 2015 16:03)

Your post is contradictory. On one side you mention "an unsolved crime" and on the same sentence you have solved it and determined that it was "committed by Albanians" !!! So, which part of your sentence should we trust?

For the record, there is no excuse for the killing of 12 innocent people, regardless of what their ethnicity is and the people who did it are just criminals, regardless of what their ethnicity is.

icj1

pre 9 godina

See there's a difference between not wanting to join, and not being able to ;)
(Ari Gold, 16 February 2015 19:09)

Exactly! You made a great point to prove that Kosovo is similar to Switzerland's case since Kosovo has not applied to join the UN. That's different from, for example, Taiwan's case which applied for UN Membership but it was rejected.
----------

When real countries like South Sudan declared independence just 2 years ago, they were already accepted within weeks actually.
(Ari Gold, 16 February 2015 19:09)

I'm sure that Kosovo has no desire to be a "real country" like this http://www.un.org/press/en/2014/sc11363.doc.htm
----------

Here we are, 7 years later and you cannot join the UN unless Serbia gives you permission.
(Ari Gold, 16 February 2015 19:09)

Sorry, I perhaps missed it. When did the UN Charter change to make Serbia a permanent member of the Security Council or give Serbia 65 votes in the UN General Assembly?
----------

Sorry, but immediately after 2008, the important countries who were going to recognize your declaration already did so. This project reached its climax soon after that and has been on a downward slope ever since.
(Ari Gold, 16 February 2015 19:09)

Well, if doubling the number of recognitions from 2008 to present means a "downward slope", Kosovo is OK with that so you don't have to be sorry. You see mate is just a matter of definitions :)

Rocky

pre 9 godina

The link I was trying to provide seems to have gotten all tangle up here at b92? Maybe the editing caused the issue?
Working perfectly fine on my end, let's give it 1 more shot..

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preševo_Valley

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Why do Australians, Canadians, and Americans mostly speak English?
(Peggy, Peggy, Peggy, 17 February 2015 10:02)
====================================
Because that's who colinized those lands. Nobody is saying that the English were there before indigenous people. How long have Albanians been in Kosovo? How long has Kosovar race existed? When was Kosovar recognised as a race?
In any case you all call yourselves Albanians. You only say you are Kosovars when it's convenient.
Do you have any answers for me?

icj1

pre 9 godina

Serbs have been in that region well before 6 century mate.
(sj, 17 February 2015 15:08)

So, since when, then? the 6th, 60th or 600th century BC?
----------

The EU will leave Kosovo to the Serbs and you guys cant do a thing about it
(sj, 17 February 2015 15:08)

But Serbs would not want it if they are sane. Haven't you read the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj that Kosovo has nothing at all – no energy, water or minerals. Or the postings of the most patriotic of Serbs about how Kosovo is a black hole with more than a million criminals living there, etc etc etc... What sane country would want something like that to become part of that country?!!!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 9 godina

There has never been a state of Kosovo and there will never be
(Daniel, 16 February 2015 15:31)

And I say that there has never been a state of Serbia and there will never be

The only problem with both your and my statement is that more than 100 countries disagree :)

Joni

pre 9 godina

All the EU know very well the history of Kosovo land, just you guys don't know it yet... What kind of history do you learn?? No one of the EU states hate Serbia and love more Albania.
No one of this "states" will donate this "privilege" to Albania if it is not the right thing... Not for sure!!!!
You guys, will remain "victims" of your own propaganda for a long time... That's too bad......

pss

pre 9 godina

Ah the many faces of sj!
"By the way Kosova has no legal system because the EU runs everything.
(sj, 16 February 2015 11:46)"
but yet
You have had an Albanian administration since 1999 and what have they done since that time? NOTHING except line their pockets.
The EU will leave Kosovo to the Serbs and you guys cant do a thing about it
(sj, 17 February 2015 15:08)
# Comment link
So one has to ask is it an Albanian administration or is it controlled by the EU?? just depends on what message sj is trying to convince everyone.

One minute the EU created Kosovo to keep the muslims isolated, the next the EU is going to turn Kosovo over to Serbia.
The EU and US can no longer afford to support Kosovo but yet Serbia whose only income is from whatever source they can beg, borrow, or steal from, is the only hope for Kosovo.

Rocky

pre 9 godina

Good try radical Serbia!
The entire civilized world was witness to the fact that it was the Serbian state that was carrying out the barbaric terrorist actions against the innocent civilian population of Kosova ,which happened to be the 90% majority Albanians! It was the Serbian super terrorist state which gave orders to her army, to ethnically cleanse Kosova of her majority Albanian population thru acts of terrorism & barbarism!
http://youtu.be/4UDbJXT2JJw

When did the Albanian population cross over to the Serbian state to carry out terrorist actions against the civilian population of Serbia? Provide 1, just one instance of Kosovar's crossing into Serbia soil committing crimes against Serbia!!!
You can't, as it never occurred! Now, that is why we have 2 separate states, as we can never again live under 1 together again!!!

Demi

pre 9 godina

Its a sad story ofcourse. Just as sad as those 12 000 Albanians who got killed by serbian military and paramilitary in 1998-99.

It could have been serbian secret services who did this crime to blaim Albanians. This has happend before.. Or some poor Young Albanian who's whole family was murdered by Serbian forces and took revenge.

Albanians and Serbs cannot live together. Maybee now we can live next to eachother. Serbs in Serbia and Albanians in Kosova.

Real peace will come is when Serbia will leave Kosova and its Albanian population alone.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

When did the Albanian population cross over to the Serbian state to carry out terrorist actions against the civilian population of Serbia? Provide 1, just one instance of Kosovar's crossing into Serbia soil committing crimes against Serbia!!! ""

You didnt have to cross anything since the war was in Kosovo, Serbia and its a fact that you committed horrible crimes vs the civilians serbian population in the SERBIAN province of Kosovo. And you also committed horrible crimes in Bujanovac, Medvedja and Presevo when your KLA terrorists killed several civilians and policemen. Terorists, butchers and savages thats what you are. Lower than the lowest.

the truth

pre 9 godina

You can't, as it never occurred! Now, that is why we have 2 separate states, as we can never again live under 1 together again!!!
(Rocky, 16 February 2015 14:43)""

There has never been a state of Kosovo and there will never be, Kosovo is Serbia now and forever. Read 1244, you dont have a UN seat and will never have. For the last month 200 000 are fleeing from Kosovo again more and more every day.
(Daniel, 16 February 2015 15:31)

@Daniel,
Switzerland did not have a UN seat till 2002, and was a state/sovereign country. Now, can you explain that to all of us , pleaseeeeeee!?

Rocky

pre 9 godina

Everyone with half a brain knows very well that prior to 1938 the Presevo valley belonged to the territory of Kosova, they know it was majority inhabited by Albanians, they know it was ripped away from Kosova to try and manipulate the ethnic composition of the fact that kosova was almost completely inhabited by her ancient people the Albanians!!! Now, slew all the sh.. U want, now one is buying that crap! Facts are facts, and even Serbia cants twist the facts, although she is free to try!
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preševo_Valley

Now kid, its past your Chetnik bedtime, and don't forget to put your hand grenades & milosevich's portrait back in the closet!
The Republic of Kosova is free, and she will continue to be free! Even if 200,000 of her inhabitants have left, according to your estimates? Don't forget, we still have 1.6 or 7 million ready to take your radical Serbia on if need be!!!
Now I'm getting ready to celebrate Kosova's 7th year of independence, with no Serbian state presence in sight, thank god & good riddance

American Eagle

pre 9 godina

Rocky, you're a special type of stupid aren't you? The Podujevo bus bombing is well known and sadly covered up by Kosovo Albanian authorities who haven't even bothered to look for the perpetrators. You can make whatever empty chest thumping propagandistic statements you want from America and it still won't cover up the crime. You're only looking like an immature ass trying to shout out the attention given to something embarrassing for your own side. Amazing for someone who likes to think he's superior to Serbs you act and think worse than the worst of them. On a Serbian site no less.

The Albanians didn't need to cross into Serbian territory and attack them because they were too busy terrorizing Serbs throughout Kosovo, which was, if your feeble brain can remember, part of Serbia. Murder, kidnapping, organ harvesting, looting, shooting at children from a distance, arson, grave desecration, these are all part of the Albanian terror campaign against innocent Serbs. Not my fault you're too stupid, ignorant, or both to remember it.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

You can't, as it never occurred! Now, that is why we have 2 separate states, as we can never again live under 1 together again!!!
(Rocky, 16 February 2015 14:43)""

There has never been a state of Kosovo and there will never be, Kosovo is Serbia now and forever. Read 1244, you dont have a UN seat and will never have. For the last month 200 000 are fleeing from Kosovo again more and more every day.

Joni

pre 9 godina

Serbs are allergic to the truth...
They still don't understand what Milosevic have done to Serbia..!!! O yes.., for a serb all are guilty except "them". Keep thinking Albania is guilty for all...Kosovo....was...and will be forever an Albanian land... Was part of Ex.Jugoslavia....but never was Serbia...
Finally....the EU members, have repaired the "error" done against Albanians people..
And.. if a serb tell to me Kosovo is Serbia... i am "forced" to tell him, go and read the story...
Or..firstly, find the origin of the Serian migration on the VI century.....and then talk to Albanian lands.....

Try reading it enlightens the brain

pre 9 godina

There has never been a state of Kosovo and there will never be, Kosovo is Serbia now and forever. Read 1244, you dont have a UN seat and will never have. For the last month 200 000 are fleeing from Kosovo again more and more every day.
(Daniel, 16 February 2015 15:31)
Maybe you should read 1244 before you tell anyone else to!
"e.Facilitating a political process designed to determine Kosovo's future status, taking into account the Rambouillet accords (S/1999/648);"

Navi

pre 9 godina

When did the Albanian population cross over to the Serbian state to carry out terrorist actions against the civilian population of Serbia? Provide 1, just one instance of Kosovar's crossing into Serbia soil committing crimes against Serbia!!!
(Rocky, 16 February 2015 14:43)

You want one? Ok.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1166322.stm

You really didn't think this out did you?

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Switzerland did not have a UN seat till 2002, and was a state/sovereign country. Now, can you explain that to all of us , pleaseeeeeee!?
(the truth, 16 February 2015 16:16)"

Can you explain to all why it says in the UN resolution 1244 that kosovo is a part of Serbia?

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 9 godina

Don't forget, we still have 1.6 or 7 million ready to take your radical Serbia on if need be!!!
(Rocky, 16 February 2015 17:39)

LOL no you don't. Last time you rats tried that you were blown into Albania and begged the US to help you. Now it's not even a battle since all Albanians are paying Serbs money to smuggle them through "radical Serbia" into Central Europe.

Dori

pre 9 godina

It is very easy to find the terrorists of this tragedy.They all have villas in Dedinje.If you want real peace wipe dedinje off the map.This is only one of millions terrorist activities they have done around the ex yu.

Albi

pre 9 godina

There has never been a state of Kosovo and there will never be, Kosovo is Serbia now and forever.
(Daniel, 16 February 2015 15:31)

"Kosovo is Serbia as much as my mother is a virgin" - Zlatan Ibrahimovic

Hey Daniel, Ari Gold and the rest. Kosova is long gone from you, and there is nothing you can do. Time for you clowns to admit the truth that Kosovo is an independent state, something that deeply even your government knows and they will recognize if not too distance future.

Happy Independence Day to Kosova :):)

just an opinion

pre 9 godina

You really didn't think this out did you?
(Navi, 16 February 2015 16:23
Read the article that a training camp was set up, but did not read anywhere that any criminal activities took place. Plus it seems like the majority of these Albanians were coming from southern Serbia and not from Kosovo.

Daniel

pre 9 godina

Plus it seems like the majority of these Albanians were coming from southern Serbia and not from Kosovo.
(just an opinion, 16 February 2015 16:44)"

Kosovo is southern Serbia.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

@Daniel,
Switzerland did not have a UN seat till 2002, and was a state/sovereign country. Now, can you explain that to all of us , pleaseeeeeee!?
(the truth, 16 February 2015 16:16)

I'd be happy to. So Switzerland has historically maintained a policy of neutrality which kept it from joining many international organizations. Thus, Switzerland saw joining the UN as an infringement of that policy so they stayed out. When they decided it was important to them, they applied to join and were accepted in months.

See there's a difference between not wanting to join, and not being able to ;) When real countries like South Sudan declared independence just 2 years ago, they were already accepted within weeks actually. Here we are, 7 years later and you cannot join the UN unless Serbia gives you permission.

My greatest fear is the Serb gov't buckling on its national interests in exchange for a pat on the back from the crumbling EU. With the mass exodus of Albanians from Kosovo-Metohija and all the countless amount of problems there, it would be stupid of Serbia to allow you something you have no ability to get by yourself.

Sorry, but immediately after 2008, the important countries who were going to recognize your declaration already did so. This project reached its climax soon after that and has been on a downward slope ever since. Let's just hope Serbia stands strong because otherwise, there is nothing you can do.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Albanians and Serbs cannot live together. Maybee now we can live next to eachother. Serbs in Serbia and Albanians in Kosova.

Real peace will come is when Serbia will leave Kosova and its Albanian population alone.
(Demi, 16 February 2015 23:08)

Maybe Albanians to Albania? That's where thousands of families came from during Tito's Yugoslavia. But I find it hilarious that after so many acts of ethnic cleansing and genocide to the Serb population in Kosovo-Metohija, it is now down to 10%. So 90% Albanians has led to the impoverished black hole that we have today...but if it were only 100%, things would be better.

Except its your own people who are stealing from you. Thaci&Co. Your own criminals make Kosovo-Metohija an unsafe and deprived place and useful idiots such as yourself will ignore that and focus on your raging fascism and intolerance for others.

Yet its your own kleptocrats that will keep you up to your knees in poverty and the only way out is to be 1 of 200 in a 45 person bus.
http://www.pravda.rs/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/nova-zastava.jpg

just an opinion

pre 9 godina

Kosovo is southern Serbia.
(Daniel, 16 February 2015 17:35)
Kosovo WAS in southern Serbia!
We could waste months debating the issue but not only do over 100 countries and several international organizations agree with me but Serbia has made it a point to demand that everyone who has not recognized to treat Kosovo as status neutral which means that neither the UN or EU can refer to Kosovo as part of Serbia. (Again at the demands of Serbia itself)

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

Hey Daniel, Ari Gold and the rest. Kosova is long gone from you, and there is nothing you can do.

Happy Independence Day to Kosova :):)
(Albi, 17 February 2015 01:23)

Man, you can a few more smilies, if you think it will help cover up your insecurity. Fact is, no one in Kosovo-Metohija is smiling right now, especially not Albanians. They are leaving bro, trying to get the hell out even if it means walking. The ones with no ties to the drug/organ/human trafficking rackets are eating the ground. It's really sad.

So when you say that "there's nothing you can do about it", I promise you there is nothing I want to do about it, so long as Albanians believe in this make-believe "republjik". And all Serbia has to do is make sure the status quo remains the same and things will continue falling into place.

Gianfranco

pre 9 godina

The truth is that if Vaso Čubrilović's plan would have been implemented, Kosovo would still be a civilized land (while it's not now).
And another truth is that Tito was responsible too of what's happening now, avoiding Serbs to return to Kosovo and allowing albanians from Albania to move there.
There are no doubts that "indepent Kosovo" is a joke, a lie and a crime. This land is Serbia. What albanians did in Kosovo? Did they build any church? Did they build any mine? Did they build any factory?
No. They just introduced mafia, criminality and stole resources to Serbia and Yugoslavia who was giving autonomy and money to them.
I repeat: if Vaso Čubrilović had implemented his plan, Kosovo would be a civilized land now.

sj

pre 9 godina

(Joni, 17 February 2015 11:38)

As your brethren are leaving the paradise called Kosova in their hundreds today who do you blame this on now? Milosevic? You have had an Albanian administration since 1999 and what have they done since that time? NOTHING except line their pockets. So I guess it’s all Milosevic’s fault again eh?
Serbs have been in that region well before 6 century mate. However there is no record of Albanians there or perhaps your now also claiming Illyrian ancestry LOL.
The EU will leave Kosovo to the Serbs and you guys cant do a thing about it

American Eagle

pre 9 godina

Everyone with half a brain knows very well that prior to 1938 the Presevo valley belonged to the territory of Kosova
(Rocky, 16 February 2015 17:39)

What part of your ass did you pull that tidbit out of? Presevo was part of the Vardar Banovina from 1929 until 1941, but so was all of Macedonia. You next going to say Macedonia is part of Kosovo too?

Don't even attempt to question anyone else's intelligence when you have none of your own. The rest of your post isn't worth responding to since it screams of immature trolling. It's bad enough you're too stupid and ignorant to know basic history but it's even worse when you make shit up.

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Albanians and Serbs cannot live together. Maybee now we can live next to eachother. Serbs in Serbia and Albanians in Kosova.

Real peace will come is when Serbia will leave Kosova and its Albanian population alone.
(Demi, 16 February 2015 23:08)
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How about Albanians in Albania? Kosovo is Serbian land and there is no such race is Kosovars.
If you people really feel like you're Kosovars why then do you keep flying the Albanian flag all the time and why do you speak Albanian?
Peace will only come when Albanians leave Serbs alone and stop stealing other people's land.

Demi

pre 9 godina

How about Albanians in Albania? Kosovo is Serbian land and there is no such race is Kosovars.
If you people really feel like you're Kosovars why then do you keep flying the Albanian flag all the time and why do you speak Albanian?
Peace will only come when Albanians leave Serbs alone and stop stealing other people's land.
(Peggy, 17 February 2015 02:36


Hey how could we steal ''your'' land when you serbs came from caucaus area Russia or Ukraine 700 years ago. Albanians are decent of Illyrians and native people of the Balkans. Kosova and Albnia should and will be one country one day! Its Albanian land!

Daniel

pre 9 godina

It is very easy to find the terrorists of this tragedy.They all have villas in Dedinje.If you want real peace wipe dedinje off the map.This is only one of millions terrorist activities they have done around the ex yu.
(Dori, 17 February 2015 00:39)""

Yeah of course a serb put a mine under a bus with serb passengers since you are always innocent as lambs right? Its never you its always someone else. Unlike you that staged the racak "massacre" and killed your own in order for NATO to intervene we dont kill our own.

Albo Troll Wrangler

pre 9 godina

Serbs are allergic to the truth...
(Joni, 17 February 2015 11:38)

LOL and yet an article about an unsolved crime committed by Albanians against Serbs is met with complete denial, excuses, and coverups by every Albanian troll here because they can't handle the truth. You have the nerve to say other people are allergic to the truth when you can't even face your own music? You have the nerve to point the finger at someone else when anyone in Albanian society who wants to speak truth is suddenly killed? No wonder you're the most despised people in Europe with governments working overtime to turn the flood of your refugee population back because they won't want you anywhere near their countries.

icj1

pre 9 godina

See there's a difference between not wanting to join, and not being able to ;)
(Ari Gold, 16 February 2015 19:09)

Exactly! You made a great point to prove that Kosovo is similar to Switzerland's case since Kosovo has not applied to join the UN. That's different from, for example, Taiwan's case which applied for UN Membership but it was rejected.
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When real countries like South Sudan declared independence just 2 years ago, they were already accepted within weeks actually.
(Ari Gold, 16 February 2015 19:09)

I'm sure that Kosovo has no desire to be a "real country" like this http://www.un.org/press/en/2014/sc11363.doc.htm
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Here we are, 7 years later and you cannot join the UN unless Serbia gives you permission.
(Ari Gold, 16 February 2015 19:09)

Sorry, I perhaps missed it. When did the UN Charter change to make Serbia a permanent member of the Security Council or give Serbia 65 votes in the UN General Assembly?
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Sorry, but immediately after 2008, the important countries who were going to recognize your declaration already did so. This project reached its climax soon after that and has been on a downward slope ever since.
(Ari Gold, 16 February 2015 19:09)

Well, if doubling the number of recognitions from 2008 to present means a "downward slope", Kosovo is OK with that so you don't have to be sorry. You see mate is just a matter of definitions :)

Peggy, Peggy, Peggy

pre 9 godina

"If you people really feel like you're Kosovars why then do you keep flying the Albanian flag all the time and why do you speak Albanian?"

Why do Australians, Canadians, and Americans mostly speak English?

icj1

pre 9 godina

Serbs have been in that region well before 6 century mate.
(sj, 17 February 2015 15:08)

So, since when, then? the 6th, 60th or 600th century BC?
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The EU will leave Kosovo to the Serbs and you guys cant do a thing about it
(sj, 17 February 2015 15:08)

But Serbs would not want it if they are sane. Haven't you read the teachings of the CE of B92 forums sj that Kosovo has nothing at all – no energy, water or minerals. Or the postings of the most patriotic of Serbs about how Kosovo is a black hole with more than a million criminals living there, etc etc etc... What sane country would want something like that to become part of that country?!!!

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

icj1

pre 9 godina

LOL and yet an article about an unsolved crime committed by Albanians against Serbs is met with complete denial, excuses, and coverups by every Albanian troll here because they can't handle the truth.
(Albo Troll Wrangler, 17 February 2015 16:03)

Your post is contradictory. On one side you mention "an unsolved crime" and on the same sentence you have solved it and determined that it was "committed by Albanians" !!! So, which part of your sentence should we trust?

For the record, there is no excuse for the killing of 12 innocent people, regardless of what their ethnicity is and the people who did it are just criminals, regardless of what their ethnicity is.

icj1

pre 9 godina

There are no doubts that "indepent Kosovo" is a joke, a lie and a crime.
(Gianfranco, 17 February 2015 10:43)

Sorry, but your sentence does not make sense. An "indepent Kosovo" can't be a "lie" and a "crime" at the same time. It is either a "lie" and therefore does not exist or it does exist and therefore it is a "crime"... You're being too emotional to make sense with your reasoning (if any) mate lol

icj1

pre 9 godina

Can you explain to all why it says in the UN resolution 1244 that kosovo is a part of Serbia?
(Daniel, 16 February 2015 17:37)

I'm afraid that nobody will be able to explain that to you for the simple fact that UN resolution 1244 says nowhere that "kosovo is a part of Serbia" so, obviously, nobody can explain something that does not exist.

I totally get it that you've been brainwashed by years of propaganda to believe that, but you can check by yourself one of the official versions of UNSCR 1244 in Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Russian or Spanish http://www.un.org/Docs/journal/asp/ws.asp?m=S/RES/1244%281999%29. Sorry mate that you have been misled for such a long time.

I would not recommend the Serbian version since it's not official and it's well known for containing stuff which is not in the official versions :)

Rocky

pre 9 godina

The link I was trying to provide seems to have gotten all tangle up here at b92? Maybe the editing caused the issue?
Working perfectly fine on my end, let's give it 1 more shot..

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preševo_Valley

Peggy

pre 9 godina

@ Peggy

We are Kosovar Albanians which means we are Albanians from Kosova.
I can tell how much you know about albanians. hahahah
(Loda, 17 February 2015 16:04)
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WT?
That's what I said. You are Albanians. You just confirmed what I said and you are arguing? There is no such race as Kosovars. There are only Albanians from Kosovo just like Serbs from Kosovo.

So what was your argument about?

ida

pre 9 godina

The truth is that Albanians have committed terrorists acts against Serbs with impunity under cover of western forces.

Yet you have Albanians traveling through Serbia on buses and they are not abused nor harassed. Serbs a big softies.

icj1

pre 9 godina

There has never been a state of Kosovo and there will never be
(Daniel, 16 February 2015 15:31)

And I say that there has never been a state of Serbia and there will never be

The only problem with both your and my statement is that more than 100 countries disagree :)

Joni

pre 9 godina

All the EU know very well the history of Kosovo land, just you guys don't know it yet... What kind of history do you learn?? No one of the EU states hate Serbia and love more Albania.
No one of this "states" will donate this "privilege" to Albania if it is not the right thing... Not for sure!!!!
You guys, will remain "victims" of your own propaganda for a long time... That's too bad......

icj1

pre 9 godina

Icj1 = internet spam troll
(Ratko, 18 February 2015 13:40)

thx mate for showing that you could not find anything else to refute my arguments and facts :)

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Why do Australians, Canadians, and Americans mostly speak English?
(Peggy, Peggy, Peggy, 17 February 2015 10:02)
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Because that's who colinized those lands. Nobody is saying that the English were there before indigenous people. How long have Albanians been in Kosovo? How long has Kosovar race existed? When was Kosovar recognised as a race?
In any case you all call yourselves Albanians. You only say you are Kosovars when it's convenient.
Do you have any answers for me?

pss

pre 9 godina

Ah the many faces of sj!
"By the way Kosova has no legal system because the EU runs everything.
(sj, 16 February 2015 11:46)"
but yet
You have had an Albanian administration since 1999 and what have they done since that time? NOTHING except line their pockets.
The EU will leave Kosovo to the Serbs and you guys cant do a thing about it
(sj, 17 February 2015 15:08)
# Comment link
So one has to ask is it an Albanian administration or is it controlled by the EU?? just depends on what message sj is trying to convince everyone.

One minute the EU created Kosovo to keep the muslims isolated, the next the EU is going to turn Kosovo over to Serbia.
The EU and US can no longer afford to support Kosovo but yet Serbia whose only income is from whatever source they can beg, borrow, or steal from, is the only hope for Kosovo.