Government "will not allow Trepca to be taken"

Since 1999 Serbia owns nothing in Kosova. Not an singel thing. Everything within Kosova borders belong to Kosova goverment and its people. Reamember that Djuric&co.

The Government of Serbia has legality over the Trepca Mines. Also, 33% of the mine is located along the northern Serb municipalities with thousands of Serbian employees. Not sure what legitimate foreign investors would buy from Pristina.

This is just another case of the Pristina kleptocracy seeking more confrontation with the part of Kosovo-Metohija NATO hasn't helped them subdue. They do this because Serbia must always be framed as the reason why the Albanian community is so impoverished there. It can never be due to their own corruption, despite billions they have received in aid.

But dealing with the North again is dealing with a whole other dynamic than Belgrade. The locals there aren't pushovers as you already found out in 2011. Maybe its best for Albanians to focus on developing their own communities instead of trying to steal.

Launching a rebellion against the legitimate authorities with the overwhelming assistance of NATO was the easy part. However, appropriating the legal assets of that country is proving to be another matter. The law is a funny thing. Once war comes and violence assumes its own momentum it goes out the window. But when peace returns again, it has a nasty habit of reasserting itself and demanding justice. You can steal the land and drive the population from their homes, but try as you might to sell their assets to the outside world and you'll realise that the law is not so accommodating. The West told the Albanian kleptocracy 'running' Kosovo to keep their wheeler dealing within the limits of that entity. Flogging major assets to the outside world for your own personal gain was not part of the bargain.

If the Kosovo Albanians were smart, and they aren't, they would be in favor of leaving the Trepca mines in the hands of the Serbs. At least this way, a couple thousand Albanians will participate in honest employment; a concept that is foreign to most Albanians. If the mines go over to Albanian control, there is no doubt that they will run it into the ground or operate it for the benefit of their criminal ruling elite and the average Albanian will continue to hover between low income and poverty status.

More like the EU will not allow Trepca to be taken. First of all, Pristina can't even *get* to Trepca, let alone have any legal wherewithal to sell it. Secondly, it's obvious to anyone paying attention that the EU has set aside Trepca as the core project of northern Kosovo's eventual economic rehabilitation once the Brussels Agreement is implemented. Third, the legal position of Trepca, like many other enterprising in Kosovo that Pristina thinks it can simply appropriate without prior purchase, prevents it from being sold.

Albanians in Kosovo have a tendency for being really good at passing resolutions on things they know they can't implement and can't enforce.

Serbia signed the Brussels agreement so it must accept it. Serbia said Kosovo has only one government and one source of authority and that's in pristina. If Serbia wants to withdraw from brussels and invade trepca and take it over that's its only option.

Focus on chasing those who commited genocide and leave Trepca alone.

Pristina cannot sell ice cream without Belgrade’s approval. No one will buy Trepca if there is no agreement with Belgrade, now let’s repeat that, corporations will not have a bar in any purchase on these terms. Why do you think Albright did not proceed with the then announced purchase of the telecommunications in Kosovo???? No agreement, that’s why.
Reason why agreement is required. If the mine is worth say 500 million Euros, the purchaser is not going to pay that then outlay another 100 million upgrading the equipment and when Belgrade succeeds in the International Court (and it would, no doubts about it) then pay another 500 million on top.
Just because the little Albanians think they have declared so called independence they NEVER put up a cent in that mine. Not one cent. So it does not belong to them at all. Same goes for everything other asset in Kosovo.
But what even worse, even if Trepca is sold the average Albanian in Kosovo will never see a Euro as their leaders will get rich while the poor fools sit and rot.

Since 1999 Serbia owns nothing in Kosova. Not an singel thing. Everything within Kosova borders belong to Kosova goverment and its people. Reamember that Djuric&co.
(Demi, 19 January 2015 11:29)
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Ehh Serbia owns hundreds of companies in Kosovo with Trepca being the biggest one. The Serbian state owns about 75% of the stocks and you can not steal something that does not belong to you, its as simple as that. You have already stolen enough but this time its a big STOP sign. You can take it to court as I hope you would, its all on paper who is the owner, black on white.

Since 1999 Serbia owns nothing in Kosova. Not an singel thing. Everything within Kosova borders belong to Kosova goverment and its people. Reamember that Djuric&co.
(Demi, 19 January 2015 11:29)

Really? Then why are some of the biggest fears in Pristina the ones that think a self-sustaining northern Kosovo will place the Trepca mining complex and the Gazivoda Hydroelectric Dam complex in the hands of local Serbs as economic revenue generators? If you lived in Kosovo you'd know your statement is meaningless.

Serbia said Kosovo has only one government and one source of authority and that's in pristina.
(Brian, 19 January 2015 11:55)

No they didn't. Again you're mixing what you hear in your head with reality.

"I don't think this situation is a simple as some in Kosovo believe it to be. When it comes to property rights and ownership of tangibles, international law tends to protect ownership. This is going to have to be played out in the courts or on the negotiating table. I don't think a simple takeover will help matters. I'm not convinced that the EU would even support it."
(Raisin Scone, 19 January 2015 12:29)

Indeed. Wasn't there a similar issue then Kosovo government tried to sell 'Kosovo Telkom' (i.e. the property stolen from Telekom Srbija on the territory of Kosovo) where Telekom Srbija was stating it would put any buyer in front of an international arbitration court over unresolved property issues?

Trepca has a history. Journalists should know it. And inform about it.
http://www.crisisgroup.org/~/media/Files/europe/Kosovo%2015.pdf
And AG should shut up.

I don't think this situation is a simple as some in Kosovo believe it to be. When it comes to property rights and ownership of tangibles, international law tends to protect ownership. This is going to have to be played out in the courts or on the negotiating table. I don't think a simple takeover will help matters. I'm not convinced that the EU would even support it. Serbia today isn't the same Serbia of even five years ago, let alone in 1999. Let's all calm our heads and watch events and do so quietly instead of spewing out virulent rhetoric.

(sj, 19 January 2015 13:34)
Curious as if you are as sure of your predictions here as the others you are famous for.
How Serbia is going to control Europe with the South Stream pipeline being able to shut off the valves anytime they want with full support of Russia.
How Europe was going to freeze this winter as Russia shuts off the gas flow to show Europe who rules.
How Russian economy was untouchable by the west.

You do remember that the agreements reached in Belgrade with the American company were also taken to Pristina and agreements signed with both countries so as to prevent any future problems over ownership, don't you?

But dealing with the North again is dealing with a whole other dynamic than Belgrade. The locals there aren't pushovers as you already found out in 2011.
(Ari Gold, 19 January 2015 11:10)

Oh, Ok, great! That's what I thought. So not sure what the fuss is all about. The heroic North will triumph again, so there nothing for the Serbian government or anybody else to worry about!

The chickens are coming to roost back in incorrigible Serbia. Criminal Serbia should talk after stealing other country's businesses. Serbia had decades to do http://english.blic.rs/Economy/8032/Croatian-companies-shall-sue-Serbia-if-it-sells-their-property rite now time is up for it and its many BS's. Congratulations Serbia for being a very backward "country" yore own evil doing.

(Ari Gold, 19 January 2015 11:10)

To summed up about the so called : "Cradle of serbia", is not so cradle, but is all about the mineral wealth of Kosova,right!?

The second issue was the thousands of Serbian employees of Trepca will not take orders from Pristina institutions should they move to steal Trepca. But as we can see, that was just a fail from the very beginning.
(Ari Gold, 20 January 2015 00:56)

As his comments show once more our sad and pathetic Hitler-Youth member Ari lives fully in the 'Herrenmensch' idology of the Nazis. Only Serbia and Serbs count and Kosovars are 'rodents' as he and some of his his brothers and sisters in arms claimed here so many times. What about the 2/3 of Kosovovars who work in the Trepka mines? They are the majority, and you want them to be working slaves for Serbia again just like under your fascist hero Milosevic.

By the way, something else should actually be on top of the agenda when the question of ownership and steeling property is discussed, and where Serbia will loose big, big time.

When the old Yugoslavia still existed, everybody in Kosovo paid into the common retirment system, but so far Serbia, even it claims Kosvo is theirs, has not paid a dime in pensions to Kosovo-Albanien living in your so-called 'Southern Province'. There already were quite a few court cases, even in Serbia, that dealt with that subject, and the State of Serbia always lost, but still has not paid a cent.

This entire discussion just shows the entire world, that Serbia is a country which has not learned a thing from its violent and inhumane past, even worse, it has no intension to change.

Oh, so now Serbia owns property in Kosova?? Another crazy idea from Serbian politicians should come at no surprise. They have become the laughing stock of the world with these ridiculous "ideas".

Haven't you considered that if Serbia can inherit the properties of Milosevic's (1990s) Serbia, which included Kosova, then by that same logic Kosova will inherit a portion of all these properties as well?? Both Serbia and Kosova were once part of the same country, so by that logic Kosova owns a portion of all state property in Serbia!! Let's see how Djuric reacts when Hashim Thaci tells him to keep his hands off a state company in Novi Sad or Subotica :)

Pristina cannot sell ice cream without Belgrade’s approval. No one will buy Trepca if there is no agreement with Belgrade
(sj, 19 January 2015 13:34)

Absolutely and, viceversa, of course - Belgrade cannot sell ice cream in Kosovo without Pristina’s approval. No one will buy Trepca if there is no agreement with Pristina :)
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But what even worse, even if Trepca is sold the average Albanian in Kosovo will never see a Euro as their leaders will get rich while the poor fools sit and rot.
(sj, 19 January 2015 13:34)

Why, is that a problem? Russians appear to be doing very well in a system similar to what you described!

But what even worse, even if Trepca is sold the average Albanian in Kosovo will never see a Euro as their leaders will get rich while the poor fools sit and rot.
(sj, 19 January 2015 13:34)

Why, is that a problem? Russians appear to be doing very well in a system similar to what you described!
(icj1, 19 January 2015 14:50)

Yes, Russian oligarchs (the ones who are friends with Putin, not the ones who dare to meddle in politics) are doing well as billionaires, so do the Pristina 'politicians' and their whole clans, while the ordinary people outside the metropolises live one the verge of poverty.

The patriotic Serbs here can huff and puff all they want. This is a done deal. Nobody in Prishtina is stupid enough to go at this alone and without any international support. Old Jugo documents are as good as toilet paper. Now whoever is behind this is just testing the waters to see how much they'll have to pay Vucic and Nikolic to keep the hotheads in N.Mitro quiet. You know like Gazprom did with your other properties. Thaci will meet Vucic, act like they're negotiating; agree on the cut they will each take, cover it up with some pseudo-company of Serb and Kosova co-ownership and present this as some type of great negotiating achievement. Meanwhile this thing is sold. All of this because neither Serbs nor Albanians can't let one another operate it. Hence a third party comes in and swoops it. Our politicians get paid, shake hands and smile for the cameras. Problem solved.

@AriGold Because you people are so funny on here!!!! I cant believe you still think that you have even a shred of a chance of Kosovo being apart of Serbia ever again. And you all waste your time in the comments section here trying to prove why and how Kosovo is Serbia. Its not. Get over it, you know Kosovo is an independent state just as much as I do :)

Also for the record I have never said that Serbia will control Europe via gas, I was only talking about the Balkans.
(sj, 20 January 2015 22:45)

Well, for the record, there is an sj who is the CE of B92 forums who said more than two years ago http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=92898#k425008 that "Serbia will create even more problems once the South stream passes through as it will control the life blood of Europe, or the other half anyway."

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Hey think again. You're telling someone to be quiet because you don't agree with his viewpoint. It's ok for you to do this but not someone else. Best advice is for you to practice what you preach.
(Gerhard, 22 January 2015 15:45)
You seem to have a comprehension problem so maybe I can help you with that. I have no problems with his viewpoints, as a matter of fact they have been a great source of amusement over the years. I do have issues with him making use of falsehoods to support his viewpoints though.
But my post was in response to his insisting that the English version of B92 was only for Serbs. If it did not include anything to do with Kosovo, Croatia, Albania, the US or China etc, I could agree with him. But most of the articles have very little to do with only Serbia. If he wants only Serbs and those of similar viewpoints he should stick with the Serbian language version. But if he wants to participate in discussions that are geared to the international community then he needs to understand that chances are slim most anyone will agree with him. No one is going away just because he or you do not like what they have to say. As I said before if B92 does not want posts from opposing viewpoints they have clear editorial ability to not post it. But telling others not to come onto a Serbian site just makes him look like an idiot.

Awfully wordy explanation you wrote. Not worth my time to belabor the point.
Freedom of expression allows for exchange of opinions, as well as your need to be boorish and insulting.
(Gerhard, 23 January 2015 01:33
That's the beauty, freedom to write ones own opinion and freedom to not read it, and freedom to respond. Now your gripes should be aimed at those who tell others not to come here if they are not Serbian.

"You dont have any rights to property of Serbia when you were the ones that unilaterally declared independence from Serbia"

I was only reciprocating the thoughts of these "brilliant" Serbian leaders. If Serbia can have claims in Kosova, then Kosova can have claims in Serbia. It's all hypothetical (just like Djuric's Trepca dreams). I'm sure in reality Kosova wants nothing to do with Serbia or any of its properties.

Oh, and you guys keep throwing that "unilateral" word like it actually means something. I have news for you: most declarations of independence around the world have historically been unilateral after a war. As a matter of fact, Serbia's declaration of independence from the Ottoman Empire was also unilateral! So was the liberation from the Nazis. Maybe Djuric is suggesting that Germany and Turkey should also start to look for state property in Serbia since they once ruled it.

We all know these "declarations" are just a way for Serbian leaders to put up a show in front of their people and pretend they're actually doing something. Serbia lost the war and lost Kosova, and all that is located in Kosova, once and for all!

Yep CTC you got me. If I am lying what has that got to do with an Albanian? This is a Serbian site and that means I am lying to Serbs so why the great concerns CTC?
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner
(sj, 21 January 2015 22:20)
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Never really understood you and others on here who keep claiming this is a Serbian site. It is printed in English for international readers, the Serbian language site would be for Serbs. If you really do not want to hear from anyone other than Serbs go to that site, and leave this one for international posters who are interested in what is happening between Serbia and its neighbors.
Again it is not YOUR site it is B92 and they have full power to print comments or not, if they did not want to hear viewpoints in opposition to you then they would not print it. But there is a whole world out there that has a viewpoint in opposition to yours. So best advice is go to the Serbian site or be quiet.

(sj, 21 January 2015 11:49)
Whether you meant all of Europe or the Balkans or just a few countries, it really does not matter. In the end you were 100% wrong and Serbia does not control sh**! Your claims that south stream is still on the table you must mean the map of south stream is still on the table being used as a table cloth.
And of course you were wrong in Serbia being able to control any of the valves as those would have been firmly in the control of Russia and any Serbian hands attempting to turn them off would have probably suffered from frost bite. Serbs in Serbia(and elsewhere are just as impotent today as they were in May of 1999)A lot of hot air and not much substance.

Prishtina will take the mine lol. Its an independent state recognized as such by all countries that seem to have an interest in buying it. Nobody is going to recognize serbia having property rights and rights to natural resources in a foreign country (Kosovo). If this were to hold, then serbia would have property rights in croatia and bosnia and montenegro as well lol. And in regards to the idea brought up that serbia would bring this issue to an international court...you serbs forget very fast what happend the last time you brought kosovo to an international court (when you were so sure Serbia would win). Serbia has never learned from its past. Also may I ask how leaving the dialogue in brussels after kosovo takes over the mine will benefit you at all :) you know very well that the dialogue is the key and main condition for serbia's accesion to the European union. Maybe youll leave the dialogue for a few days and then come back after you see the damage will only be done to yourselves. Kind of like when you recalled your ambassadors in 2008 from EU countries after they recognized Kosovo overwhelmingly, and then shortly after you returned them when you saw europe has no alternative. You lost the battle and you lost the war. kosovo is gone. Focus on joining the EU and NATO, come to terms with the loss of Kosovo, and try to secure as many rights as possible for the serbs in kosovo. Kosovo is lost and you know it. Nothing you can ever do about it ever again and you know it.

Prishtina will take the mine lol. Its an independent state recognized as such by all countries that seem to have an interest in buying it. Kosovo is lost and you know it. Nothing you can ever do about it ever again and you know it.
(Anonymous, 20 January 2015 12:07)

well if you need to reassure yourself of this everyday, that's on you. The facts on the ground are showing that Pristina tried unsuccessfully to steal what isn't theirs and were pushed back. Add a couple of more "lols" to your comment and "its lost, lost forever!" if it makes you feel better.

As his comments show once more our sad and pathetic Hitler-Youth member Ari lives fully in the 'Herrenmensch' idology of the Nazis.
This entire discussion just shows the entire world, that Serbia is a country which has not learned a thing from its violent and inhumane past, even worse, it has no intension to change.
(Willi Pfaff, 20 January 2015 13:00)

LMAO, be in support of basic property rights and get called a "Nazi" by B92's resident Nazi... only to finish off with "Serbs are inhumane". Willi you forgot to take your meds again this morning. You know how you like to ramble and go on senile rants when you forget to take your meds!!!

Doesnt work like that.
(Daniel, 20 January 2015 15:19)

you know what else "doesn't work like that"? Serbs/Serbia deciding how it works when it comes to Kosovo

Not sure why the goat herders think this mine is theirs, given this is on Serbian land.

As a Serb I'm sorry to say, but the abundance of natural resources was what this was all about. If you decrepit albos think that it was to save your sorry ass, or if you believe it was about freedom, democracy, and apple pie, you are very much mistaken because the US terrorists could not give a rat's rear for your well being. Albright, Clinton, Clark et al have huge interests in Kosovo's resources. To let go the biggest prize, Trepce Mines, short of war, it will not happen. I will say this once again, we need politicians that are ready to fight for what's theirs, otherwise, just move on.

Go Home- read the Brussels agreement already! One court system. One police system. Does Belgrade choose Serb police chief? No pristina does.

why wouldn’t Moscow borrow to meet any deficit like everyone else until the price rises???? Russia’s debt is only 10% of GDP.
(sj, 20 January 2015 10:44)
You are a funny man, I guess, You could actually be female for all I know as very little of what you have represented here has actually been true.
I won't debate whether or not you did claim that Serbia would control Europe by turning on and off the valves of the South Stream with Russia's blessing, you know, I know and the rest of the readers know what was said.
Russia's borrowing money, from who? with the Ruble at its level I am sure people are rushing to loan them money. Do you really believe the Oil prices are just a coincidence????
Remember Russia fled Afghanistan with their tail between their legs long before NATO did. And what about the totally embarrassing exit from Kosovo?? Which is actually the real reason Russia uses its position in the UNSC to block the west on Kosovo, not some idiotic claims of brotherhood.

Go Home- read the Brussels agreement already! One court system. One police system. Does Belgrade choose Serb police chief? No pristina does.
(Brian, 20 January 2015 05:27)

Why do you keep telling me to refer to a document that confirms my argument and destroys yours? The Brussels Agreement severely limits Pristina's authority over Serb municipalities. Nowhere in that document does it confirm Pristina's sole authority. You clearly have problems in reading comprehension.

But as we can see, that was just a fail from the very beginning.
(Ari Gold, 20 January 2015 00:56)

Its quite the contrary. The first phase was very successful. The waters were tested. Out of all of this you have no politician in Belgrade, Prishtina, or N.Mitro disagreeing about selling the mine. You have the EU telling Serbia that it cannot condition the selling with walking out of the Brussels negotiations. The US is slowing the process down. We now have the full picture. The mine will be sold and Thaci, Mustafa, Vucic, and Nikolic will sit down in Brussels and state the cut they will take for themselves. This has already been decided and it wasn't neither Vucic nor Thaci doing the deciding.

Also for the record I have never said that Serbia will control Europe via gas, I was only talking about the Balkans.
(sj, 20 January 2015 22:45)

Well, for the record, there is an sj who is the CE of B92 forums who said more than two years ago http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=92898#k425008 that "Serbia will create even more problems once the South stream passes through as it will control the life blood of Europe, or the other half anyway."

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 21 January 2015 02:52)

Unfortunately B92 has placed a limit on the word count and its never possible to fully qualify any a statement so some things have to be left out. However, it’s mainly the Balkans but it can also be the EU with Russia’s support. I hope I have cleared that up.
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner
(sj, 21 January 2015 11:30)

Oh, yeah, sure... whatever. Just wanted to clarify the record in regards to "I have never said that Serbia will control Europe via gas". But don't worry mate, I do fully sympathize: it's difficult even for somebody like the CE of B92 forums sj to keep the stories consistent when they are based on BS and lies :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Meanwhile this thing is sold. All of this because neither Serbs nor Albanians can't let one another operate it. Hence a third party comes in and swoops it. Our politicians get paid, shake hands and smile for the cameras. Problem solved.
(j, 19 January 2015 22:50)

Serbia hasn't objected to the sale of the Trepca mines, just who is allowed to call the tender and get paid for it. Pristina institutions have not invested a single penny in Trepca and therefore do not have the right or ownership to sell what isn't theirs. The second issue was the thousands of Serbian employees of Trepca will not take orders from Pristina institutions should they move to steal Trepca. But as we can see, that was just a fail from the very beginning.

Haven't you considered that if Ifcan inherit the properties of Milosevic's (1990s) Serbia, which included Kosova, then by that same logic Kosova will inherit a portion of all these properties as well?? "

You really dont know much about law now do you? You dont have any rights to property of Serbia when you were the ones that unilaterally declared independence from Serbia and not the other way around. You want independece and nothing to do with Serbia but you want the property of Serbia? Doesnt work like that.

@think again

Awfully wordy explanation you wrote. Not worth my time to belabor the point.
Freedom of expression allows for exchange of opinions, as well as your need to be boorish and insulting.

What is all this fuss about? The Serb side is screaming and the Albanian side is threatning. So in the end as usual both sides win nothing. So please all of you stop. Fact one: Prishtina with the help of international crooks in charge of establishing law and order currently has the most corrupt, inefficient, ineffective government run by thief's and war criminals. "Laughing stock Hashim Thaqi foreign minister". By far the worst government in the entire region of the former Yugoslavia. So even if Serbia gave them a green light to operate the mines I doubt those crooks would find the type of investor needed to invest on the Trepca mine to revitalize the industry. Fact two, Serbia will never again be allowed to have any say whatsoever when it comes to controlling assets within Kosovos borders not because Albanians are so good but because of the mighty USA. So should USA have some party interested in taking over the mine trust me the deal will go through despite yelling cursing and screaming. Money ladies and gentlemen makes the world run and currently USA has the wealth, power and most importantly the knowledge of how to get it done and make it work. As for the titleholders and all that nonsense let's just say that lawyers will take care of the legal aspect and both sides Serbs and Albanians will be left holding the bag and throwing rocks at each other. Idiots.

(pss, 19 January 2015 14:22)

I don’t know what you have been supping lately but I never said that Serbia would control Europe via south stream. I was talking about the Balkans.
Russia would not shut off the gas because these so called sanctions are a rouse for the populace like you. The EU relies on Russian gas so if you think the EU would cut off their noses to spite their faces you have a lot to learn. These sanction s are so weak it funny.
Try and live in reality land for a change not the crap they feed you nonstop in the media. The Russian economy is not affected by western sanctions but if you see it differently please let me know where they are affected. Is it because Moscow does not import democratically grown food stuff from the EU and therefore the world will end for Russia? Or perhaps because western banks cannot do business with Russia and Moscow will falter? I guess that Moscow cannot go to Asia and borrow what it needs because the money is not blessed by freedom and democracy? Hmmm?
Perhaps it’s the importing of western technology that is affecting Russia? Yeah I see how successful the US has been in Afghanistan and Iraq with their superior technology. Left both places with tail between their legs.
Yes the price of oil is having an affect on the Russian budget, but here is a thought. If there is shortfall why wouldn’t Moscow borrow to meet any deficit like everyone else until the price rises???? Russia’s debt is only 10% of GDP.

(pss, 20 January 2015 15:05)

For the record I am a male. Also for the record I have never said that Serbia will control Europe via gas, I was only talking about the Balkans. South Stream is still on the table but it will cost the EU a lot more when its built or if they like the gas can go through Turkey and then lets see how Brussels likes getting vital energy via a Muslim country.
Borrowing money has little to do with the rubel since its borrowed based on assets much like when you borrow money for a house. Russia has about 400 million in foreign reserves plus twice that in gold so borrowing is not an issue and they can get all they want from Asia.
What you have said about Afghanistan and Kosovo is true, but this is now 2015 and Russia is not a poor country anymore.
This business with oil was started by Saudi Arabia and it was not aimed at Russia either. The purpose was to lower the price so as to send US firms that are extracting oil from shale and gas via fraking BROKE so the US is no longer self reliant and has to come back to rely on Riyadh. There is now a concern that with over 70 trillion invested in this type production of oil and gas companies will not be able to make a profit (they need about $70 to $80per barrel) it will cause a banking GFC and that is even worse than the last one.
Russia is much closer to Serbia than the US to Kosovo.

@ Ari Gold & S j... I love reading your comments on B92 because the 100 % true. God bless .. POZ IZ CHICAGO

But there is a whole world out there that has a viewpoint in opposition to yours. So best advice is go to the Serbian site or be quiet.
(think again, 22 January 2015 02:22)

Hey think again. You're telling someone to be quiet because you don't agree with his viewpoint. It's ok for you to do this but not someone else. Best advice is for you to practice what you preach.

Well, for the record, there is an sj who is the CE of B92 forums who said more than two years ago[link] that "Serbia will create even more problems once the South stream passes through as it will control the life blood of Europe, or the other half anyway."

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 21 January 2015 02:52)

Unfortunately B92 has placed a limit on the word count and its never possible to fully qualify any a statement so some things have to be left out. However, it’s mainly the Balkans but it can also be the EU with Russia’s support. I hope I have cleared that up.
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner

(Tirons, 21 January 2015 06:02)

Sadly for you it does not work like that otherwise you would have the Italians making claims on behalf of the Roman Empire and the Brits then making claims on US property that they lost in 1776.
Kosova all you like but always remember that Serbia owns a lot of property there and if it’s sold agreement has to be reached first and then compensation. When the Soviet Union failed Russia had to pay compensation to successive corporations for property and industry confiscated 70 years before, so the same rules apply here.
The problem with you Albanians is you talk as if Kosovo is the goose that lays the gold eggs when in reality it cant even survive without EU aid and that money, about 80%, is incorporated in its annual budget as if it was actually earned.

Oh, yeah, sure... whatever. Just wanted to clarify the record in regards to "I have never said that Serbia will control Europe via gas". But don't worry mate, I do fully sympathize: it's difficult even for somebody like the CE of B92 forums sj to keep the stories consistent when they are based on BS and lies :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 21 January 2015 14:24)
Yep CTC you got me. If I am lying what has that got to do with an Albanian? This is a Serbian site and that means I am lying to Serbs so why the great concerns CTC?
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner

(think again, 22 January 2015 02:22)

Where is B92 headquartered? Belgrade, Serbia not Tiranha Albania nor Pristina Kosovo. There are many people of Serb background that do not speak a word of Serbian. Some are four or five generations in countries coutside Serbia but they are interested in the daily lives of Serbs in the Balkans. Recently I met people from California who are of Serb background and their forebears settled there in 1895, but they still celebrate Christmas on 6 January.
I get accused of telling stories, and if that is the case I only want to lie to my fellow Serbs not Albanians or anyone else. Now I strobgle suggest that you gor to your Albanian website and I guarantee I will never post a comment there.
I do love this though ’ So best advice is go to the Serbian site or be quiet’. Read the first line in my post.

The Government of Serbia has legality over the Trepca Mines. Also, 33% of the mine is located along the northern Serb municipalities with thousands of Serbian employees. Not sure what legitimate foreign investors would buy from Pristina.

This is just another case of the Pristina kleptocracy seeking more confrontation with the part of Kosovo-Metohija NATO hasn't helped them subdue. They do this because Serbia must always be framed as the reason why the Albanian community is so impoverished there. It can never be due to their own corruption, despite billions they have received in aid.

But dealing with the North again is dealing with a whole other dynamic than Belgrade. The locals there aren't pushovers as you already found out in 2011. Maybe its best for Albanians to focus on developing their own communities instead of trying to steal.

If the Kosovo Albanians were smart, and they aren't, they would be in favor of leaving the Trepca mines in the hands of the Serbs. At least this way, a couple thousand Albanians will participate in honest employment; a concept that is foreign to most Albanians. If the mines go over to Albanian control, there is no doubt that they will run it into the ground or operate it for the benefit of their criminal ruling elite and the average Albanian will continue to hover between low income and poverty status.

Since 1999 Serbia owns nothing in Kosova. Not an singel thing. Everything within Kosova borders belong to Kosova goverment and its people. Reamember that Djuric&co.

Since 1999 Serbia owns nothing in Kosova. Not an singel thing. Everything within Kosova borders belong to Kosova goverment and its people. Reamember that Djuric&co.
(Demi, 19 January 2015 11:29)
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Ehh Serbia owns hundreds of companies in Kosovo with Trepca being the biggest one. The Serbian state owns about 75% of the stocks and you can not steal something that does not belong to you, its as simple as that. You have already stolen enough but this time its a big STOP sign. You can take it to court as I hope you would, its all on paper who is the owner, black on white.

Pristina cannot sell ice cream without Belgrade’s approval. No one will buy Trepca if there is no agreement with Belgrade, now let’s repeat that, corporations will not have a bar in any purchase on these terms. Why do you think Albright did not proceed with the then announced purchase of the telecommunications in Kosovo???? No agreement, that’s why.
Reason why agreement is required. If the mine is worth say 500 million Euros, the purchaser is not going to pay that then outlay another 100 million upgrading the equipment and when Belgrade succeeds in the International Court (and it would, no doubts about it) then pay another 500 million on top.
Just because the little Albanians think they have declared so called independence they NEVER put up a cent in that mine. Not one cent. So it does not belong to them at all. Same goes for everything other asset in Kosovo.
But what even worse, even if Trepca is sold the average Albanian in Kosovo will never see a Euro as their leaders will get rich while the poor fools sit and rot.

More like the EU will not allow Trepca to be taken. First of all, Pristina can't even *get* to Trepca, let alone have any legal wherewithal to sell it. Secondly, it's obvious to anyone paying attention that the EU has set aside Trepca as the core project of northern Kosovo's eventual economic rehabilitation once the Brussels Agreement is implemented. Third, the legal position of Trepca, like many other enterprising in Kosovo that Pristina thinks it can simply appropriate without prior purchase, prevents it from being sold.

Albanians in Kosovo have a tendency for being really good at passing resolutions on things they know they can't implement and can't enforce.

Serbia signed the Brussels agreement so it must accept it. Serbia said Kosovo has only one government and one source of authority and that's in pristina. If Serbia wants to withdraw from brussels and invade trepca and take it over that's its only option.

Focus on chasing those who commited genocide and leave Trepca alone.

Serbia said Kosovo has only one government and one source of authority and that's in pristina.
(Brian, 19 January 2015 11:55)

No they didn't. Again you're mixing what you hear in your head with reality.

Since 1999 Serbia owns nothing in Kosova. Not an singel thing. Everything within Kosova borders belong to Kosova goverment and its people. Reamember that Djuric&co.
(Demi, 19 January 2015 11:29)

Really? Then why are some of the biggest fears in Pristina the ones that think a self-sustaining northern Kosovo will place the Trepca mining complex and the Gazivoda Hydroelectric Dam complex in the hands of local Serbs as economic revenue generators? If you lived in Kosovo you'd know your statement is meaningless.

Trepca has a history. Journalists should know it. And inform about it.
http://www.crisisgroup.org/~/media/Files/europe/Kosovo%2015.pdf
And AG should shut up.

(pss, 19 January 2015 14:22)

I don’t know what you have been supping lately but I never said that Serbia would control Europe via south stream. I was talking about the Balkans.
Russia would not shut off the gas because these so called sanctions are a rouse for the populace like you. The EU relies on Russian gas so if you think the EU would cut off their noses to spite their faces you have a lot to learn. These sanction s are so weak it funny.
Try and live in reality land for a change not the crap they feed you nonstop in the media. The Russian economy is not affected by western sanctions but if you see it differently please let me know where they are affected. Is it because Moscow does not import democratically grown food stuff from the EU and therefore the world will end for Russia? Or perhaps because western banks cannot do business with Russia and Moscow will falter? I guess that Moscow cannot go to Asia and borrow what it needs because the money is not blessed by freedom and democracy? Hmmm?
Perhaps it’s the importing of western technology that is affecting Russia? Yeah I see how successful the US has been in Afghanistan and Iraq with their superior technology. Left both places with tail between their legs.
Yes the price of oil is having an affect on the Russian budget, but here is a thought. If there is shortfall why wouldn’t Moscow borrow to meet any deficit like everyone else until the price rises???? Russia’s debt is only 10% of GDP.

Meanwhile this thing is sold. All of this because neither Serbs nor Albanians can't let one another operate it. Hence a third party comes in and swoops it. Our politicians get paid, shake hands and smile for the cameras. Problem solved.
(j, 19 January 2015 22:50)

Serbia hasn't objected to the sale of the Trepca mines, just who is allowed to call the tender and get paid for it. Pristina institutions have not invested a single penny in Trepca and therefore do not have the right or ownership to sell what isn't theirs. The second issue was the thousands of Serbian employees of Trepca will not take orders from Pristina institutions should they move to steal Trepca. But as we can see, that was just a fail from the very beginning.

Pristina cannot sell ice cream without Belgrade’s approval. No one will buy Trepca if there is no agreement with Belgrade
(sj, 19 January 2015 13:34)

Absolutely and, viceversa, of course - Belgrade cannot sell ice cream in Kosovo without Pristina’s approval. No one will buy Trepca if there is no agreement with Pristina :)
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But what even worse, even if Trepca is sold the average Albanian in Kosovo will never see a Euro as their leaders will get rich while the poor fools sit and rot.
(sj, 19 January 2015 13:34)

Why, is that a problem? Russians appear to be doing very well in a system similar to what you described!

But dealing with the North again is dealing with a whole other dynamic than Belgrade. The locals there aren't pushovers as you already found out in 2011.
(Ari Gold, 19 January 2015 11:10)

Oh, Ok, great! That's what I thought. So not sure what the fuss is all about. The heroic North will triumph again, so there nothing for the Serbian government or anybody else to worry about!

"I don't think this situation is a simple as some in Kosovo believe it to be. When it comes to property rights and ownership of tangibles, international law tends to protect ownership. This is going to have to be played out in the courts or on the negotiating table. I don't think a simple takeover will help matters. I'm not convinced that the EU would even support it."
(Raisin Scone, 19 January 2015 12:29)

Indeed. Wasn't there a similar issue then Kosovo government tried to sell 'Kosovo Telkom' (i.e. the property stolen from Telekom Srbija on the territory of Kosovo) where Telekom Srbija was stating it would put any buyer in front of an international arbitration court over unresolved property issues?

The chickens are coming to roost back in incorrigible Serbia. Criminal Serbia should talk after stealing other country's businesses. Serbia had decades to do http://english.blic.rs/Economy/8032/Croatian-companies-shall-sue-Serbia-if-it-sells-their-property rite now time is up for it and its many BS's. Congratulations Serbia for being a very backward "country" yore own evil doing.

The patriotic Serbs here can huff and puff all they want. This is a done deal. Nobody in Prishtina is stupid enough to go at this alone and without any international support. Old Jugo documents are as good as toilet paper. Now whoever is behind this is just testing the waters to see how much they'll have to pay Vucic and Nikolic to keep the hotheads in N.Mitro quiet. You know like Gazprom did with your other properties. Thaci will meet Vucic, act like they're negotiating; agree on the cut they will each take, cover it up with some pseudo-company of Serb and Kosova co-ownership and present this as some type of great negotiating achievement. Meanwhile this thing is sold. All of this because neither Serbs nor Albanians can't let one another operate it. Hence a third party comes in and swoops it. Our politicians get paid, shake hands and smile for the cameras. Problem solved.

Prishtina will take the mine lol. Its an independent state recognized as such by all countries that seem to have an interest in buying it. Kosovo is lost and you know it. Nothing you can ever do about it ever again and you know it.
(Anonymous, 20 January 2015 12:07)

well if you need to reassure yourself of this everyday, that's on you. The facts on the ground are showing that Pristina tried unsuccessfully to steal what isn't theirs and were pushed back. Add a couple of more "lols" to your comment and "its lost, lost forever!" if it makes you feel better.

As his comments show once more our sad and pathetic Hitler-Youth member Ari lives fully in the 'Herrenmensch' idology of the Nazis.
This entire discussion just shows the entire world, that Serbia is a country which has not learned a thing from its violent and inhumane past, even worse, it has no intension to change.
(Willi Pfaff, 20 January 2015 13:00)

LMAO, be in support of basic property rights and get called a "Nazi" by B92's resident Nazi... only to finish off with "Serbs are inhumane". Willi you forgot to take your meds again this morning. You know how you like to ramble and go on senile rants when you forget to take your meds!!!

But what even worse, even if Trepca is sold the average Albanian in Kosovo will never see a Euro as their leaders will get rich while the poor fools sit and rot.
(sj, 19 January 2015 13:34)

Why, is that a problem? Russians appear to be doing very well in a system similar to what you described!
(icj1, 19 January 2015 14:50)

Yes, Russian oligarchs (the ones who are friends with Putin, not the ones who dare to meddle in politics) are doing well as billionaires, so do the Pristina 'politicians' and their whole clans, while the ordinary people outside the metropolises live one the verge of poverty.

Launching a rebellion against the legitimate authorities with the overwhelming assistance of NATO was the easy part. However, appropriating the legal assets of that country is proving to be another matter. The law is a funny thing. Once war comes and violence assumes its own momentum it goes out the window. But when peace returns again, it has a nasty habit of reasserting itself and demanding justice. You can steal the land and drive the population from their homes, but try as you might to sell their assets to the outside world and you'll realise that the law is not so accommodating. The West told the Albanian kleptocracy 'running' Kosovo to keep their wheeler dealing within the limits of that entity. Flogging major assets to the outside world for your own personal gain was not part of the bargain.

Not sure why the goat herders think this mine is theirs, given this is on Serbian land.

The second issue was the thousands of Serbian employees of Trepca will not take orders from Pristina institutions should they move to steal Trepca. But as we can see, that was just a fail from the very beginning.
(Ari Gold, 20 January 2015 00:56)

As his comments show once more our sad and pathetic Hitler-Youth member Ari lives fully in the 'Herrenmensch' idology of the Nazis. Only Serbia and Serbs count and Kosovars are 'rodents' as he and some of his his brothers and sisters in arms claimed here so many times. What about the 2/3 of Kosovovars who work in the Trepka mines? They are the majority, and you want them to be working slaves for Serbia again just like under your fascist hero Milosevic.

By the way, something else should actually be on top of the agenda when the question of ownership and steeling property is discussed, and where Serbia will loose big, big time.

When the old Yugoslavia still existed, everybody in Kosovo paid into the common retirment system, but so far Serbia, even it claims Kosvo is theirs, has not paid a dime in pensions to Kosovo-Albanien living in your so-called 'Southern Province'. There already were quite a few court cases, even in Serbia, that dealt with that subject, and the State of Serbia always lost, but still has not paid a cent.

This entire discussion just shows the entire world, that Serbia is a country which has not learned a thing from its violent and inhumane past, even worse, it has no intension to change.

@ Ari Gold & S j... I love reading your comments on B92 because the 100 % true. God bless .. POZ IZ CHICAGO

I don't think this situation is a simple as some in Kosovo believe it to be. When it comes to property rights and ownership of tangibles, international law tends to protect ownership. This is going to have to be played out in the courts or on the negotiating table. I don't think a simple takeover will help matters. I'm not convinced that the EU would even support it. Serbia today isn't the same Serbia of even five years ago, let alone in 1999. Let's all calm our heads and watch events and do so quietly instead of spewing out virulent rhetoric.

(sj, 19 January 2015 13:34)
Curious as if you are as sure of your predictions here as the others you are famous for.
How Serbia is going to control Europe with the South Stream pipeline being able to shut off the valves anytime they want with full support of Russia.
How Europe was going to freeze this winter as Russia shuts off the gas flow to show Europe who rules.
How Russian economy was untouchable by the west.

You do remember that the agreements reached in Belgrade with the American company were also taken to Pristina and agreements signed with both countries so as to prevent any future problems over ownership, don't you?

(Ari Gold, 19 January 2015 11:10)

To summed up about the so called : "Cradle of serbia", is not so cradle, but is all about the mineral wealth of Kosova,right!?

Haven't you considered that if Ifcan inherit the properties of Milosevic's (1990s) Serbia, which included Kosova, then by that same logic Kosova will inherit a portion of all these properties as well?? "

You really dont know much about law now do you? You dont have any rights to property of Serbia when you were the ones that unilaterally declared independence from Serbia and not the other way around. You want independece and nothing to do with Serbia but you want the property of Serbia? Doesnt work like that.

(pss, 20 January 2015 15:05)

For the record I am a male. Also for the record I have never said that Serbia will control Europe via gas, I was only talking about the Balkans. South Stream is still on the table but it will cost the EU a lot more when its built or if they like the gas can go through Turkey and then lets see how Brussels likes getting vital energy via a Muslim country.
Borrowing money has little to do with the rubel since its borrowed based on assets much like when you borrow money for a house. Russia has about 400 million in foreign reserves plus twice that in gold so borrowing is not an issue and they can get all they want from Asia.
What you have said about Afghanistan and Kosovo is true, but this is now 2015 and Russia is not a poor country anymore.
This business with oil was started by Saudi Arabia and it was not aimed at Russia either. The purpose was to lower the price so as to send US firms that are extracting oil from shale and gas via fraking BROKE so the US is no longer self reliant and has to come back to rely on Riyadh. There is now a concern that with over 70 trillion invested in this type production of oil and gas companies will not be able to make a profit (they need about $70 to $80per barrel) it will cause a banking GFC and that is even worse than the last one.
Russia is much closer to Serbia than the US to Kosovo.

Go Home- read the Brussels agreement already! One court system. One police system. Does Belgrade choose Serb police chief? No pristina does.
(Brian, 20 January 2015 05:27)

Why do you keep telling me to refer to a document that confirms my argument and destroys yours? The Brussels Agreement severely limits Pristina's authority over Serb municipalities. Nowhere in that document does it confirm Pristina's sole authority. You clearly have problems in reading comprehension.

Well, for the record, there is an sj who is the CE of B92 forums who said more than two years ago[link] that "Serbia will create even more problems once the South stream passes through as it will control the life blood of Europe, or the other half anyway."

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 21 January 2015 02:52)

Unfortunately B92 has placed a limit on the word count and its never possible to fully qualify any a statement so some things have to be left out. However, it’s mainly the Balkans but it can also be the EU with Russia’s support. I hope I have cleared that up.
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner

(Tirons, 21 January 2015 06:02)

Sadly for you it does not work like that otherwise you would have the Italians making claims on behalf of the Roman Empire and the Brits then making claims on US property that they lost in 1776.
Kosova all you like but always remember that Serbia owns a lot of property there and if it’s sold agreement has to be reached first and then compensation. When the Soviet Union failed Russia had to pay compensation to successive corporations for property and industry confiscated 70 years before, so the same rules apply here.
The problem with you Albanians is you talk as if Kosovo is the goose that lays the gold eggs when in reality it cant even survive without EU aid and that money, about 80%, is incorporated in its annual budget as if it was actually earned.

(think again, 22 January 2015 02:22)

Where is B92 headquartered? Belgrade, Serbia not Tiranha Albania nor Pristina Kosovo. There are many people of Serb background that do not speak a word of Serbian. Some are four or five generations in countries coutside Serbia but they are interested in the daily lives of Serbs in the Balkans. Recently I met people from California who are of Serb background and their forebears settled there in 1895, but they still celebrate Christmas on 6 January.
I get accused of telling stories, and if that is the case I only want to lie to my fellow Serbs not Albanians or anyone else. Now I strobgle suggest that you gor to your Albanian website and I guarantee I will never post a comment there.
I do love this though ’ So best advice is go to the Serbian site or be quiet’. Read the first line in my post.

What is all this fuss about? The Serb side is screaming and the Albanian side is threatning. So in the end as usual both sides win nothing. So please all of you stop. Fact one: Prishtina with the help of international crooks in charge of establishing law and order currently has the most corrupt, inefficient, ineffective government run by thief's and war criminals. "Laughing stock Hashim Thaqi foreign minister". By far the worst government in the entire region of the former Yugoslavia. So even if Serbia gave them a green light to operate the mines I doubt those crooks would find the type of investor needed to invest on the Trepca mine to revitalize the industry. Fact two, Serbia will never again be allowed to have any say whatsoever when it comes to controlling assets within Kosovos borders not because Albanians are so good but because of the mighty USA. So should USA have some party interested in taking over the mine trust me the deal will go through despite yelling cursing and screaming. Money ladies and gentlemen makes the world run and currently USA has the wealth, power and most importantly the knowledge of how to get it done and make it work. As for the titleholders and all that nonsense let's just say that lawyers will take care of the legal aspect and both sides Serbs and Albanians will be left holding the bag and throwing rocks at each other. Idiots.

Go Home- read the Brussels agreement already! One court system. One police system. Does Belgrade choose Serb police chief? No pristina does.

Oh, so now Serbia owns property in Kosova?? Another crazy idea from Serbian politicians should come at no surprise. They have become the laughing stock of the world with these ridiculous "ideas".

Haven't you considered that if Serbia can inherit the properties of Milosevic's (1990s) Serbia, which included Kosova, then by that same logic Kosova will inherit a portion of all these properties as well?? Both Serbia and Kosova were once part of the same country, so by that logic Kosova owns a portion of all state property in Serbia!! Let's see how Djuric reacts when Hashim Thaci tells him to keep his hands off a state company in Novi Sad or Subotica :)

Oh, yeah, sure... whatever. Just wanted to clarify the record in regards to "I have never said that Serbia will control Europe via gas". But don't worry mate, I do fully sympathize: it's difficult even for somebody like the CE of B92 forums sj to keep the stories consistent when they are based on BS and lies :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 21 January 2015 14:24)
Yep CTC you got me. If I am lying what has that got to do with an Albanian? This is a Serbian site and that means I am lying to Serbs so why the great concerns CTC?
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner

But there is a whole world out there that has a viewpoint in opposition to yours. So best advice is go to the Serbian site or be quiet.
(think again, 22 January 2015 02:22)

Hey think again. You're telling someone to be quiet because you don't agree with his viewpoint. It's ok for you to do this but not someone else. Best advice is for you to practice what you preach.

@think again

Awfully wordy explanation you wrote. Not worth my time to belabor the point.
Freedom of expression allows for exchange of opinions, as well as your need to be boorish and insulting.

As a Serb I'm sorry to say, but the abundance of natural resources was what this was all about. If you decrepit albos think that it was to save your sorry ass, or if you believe it was about freedom, democracy, and apple pie, you are very much mistaken because the US terrorists could not give a rat's rear for your well being. Albright, Clinton, Clark et al have huge interests in Kosovo's resources. To let go the biggest prize, Trepce Mines, short of war, it will not happen. I will say this once again, we need politicians that are ready to fight for what's theirs, otherwise, just move on.

"You dont have any rights to property of Serbia when you were the ones that unilaterally declared independence from Serbia"

I was only reciprocating the thoughts of these "brilliant" Serbian leaders. If Serbia can have claims in Kosova, then Kosova can have claims in Serbia. It's all hypothetical (just like Djuric's Trepca dreams). I'm sure in reality Kosova wants nothing to do with Serbia or any of its properties.

Oh, and you guys keep throwing that "unilateral" word like it actually means something. I have news for you: most declarations of independence around the world have historically been unilateral after a war. As a matter of fact, Serbia's declaration of independence from the Ottoman Empire was also unilateral! So was the liberation from the Nazis. Maybe Djuric is suggesting that Germany and Turkey should also start to look for state property in Serbia since they once ruled it.

We all know these "declarations" are just a way for Serbian leaders to put up a show in front of their people and pretend they're actually doing something. Serbia lost the war and lost Kosova, and all that is located in Kosova, once and for all!

Prishtina will take the mine lol. Its an independent state recognized as such by all countries that seem to have an interest in buying it. Nobody is going to recognize serbia having property rights and rights to natural resources in a foreign country (Kosovo). If this were to hold, then serbia would have property rights in croatia and bosnia and montenegro as well lol. And in regards to the idea brought up that serbia would bring this issue to an international court...you serbs forget very fast what happend the last time you brought kosovo to an international court (when you were so sure Serbia would win). Serbia has never learned from its past. Also may I ask how leaving the dialogue in brussels after kosovo takes over the mine will benefit you at all :) you know very well that the dialogue is the key and main condition for serbia's accesion to the European union. Maybe youll leave the dialogue for a few days and then come back after you see the damage will only be done to yourselves. Kind of like when you recalled your ambassadors in 2008 from EU countries after they recognized Kosovo overwhelmingly, and then shortly after you returned them when you saw europe has no alternative. You lost the battle and you lost the war. kosovo is gone. Focus on joining the EU and NATO, come to terms with the loss of Kosovo, and try to secure as many rights as possible for the serbs in kosovo. Kosovo is lost and you know it. Nothing you can ever do about it ever again and you know it.

@AriGold Because you people are so funny on here!!!! I cant believe you still think that you have even a shred of a chance of Kosovo being apart of Serbia ever again. And you all waste your time in the comments section here trying to prove why and how Kosovo is Serbia. Its not. Get over it, you know Kosovo is an independent state just as much as I do :)

Doesnt work like that.
(Daniel, 20 January 2015 15:19)

you know what else "doesn't work like that"? Serbs/Serbia deciding how it works when it comes to Kosovo

Yep CTC you got me. If I am lying what has that got to do with an Albanian? This is a Serbian site and that means I am lying to Serbs so why the great concerns CTC?
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner
(sj, 21 January 2015 22:20)
# Comment link

Never really understood you and others on here who keep claiming this is a Serbian site. It is printed in English for international readers, the Serbian language site would be for Serbs. If you really do not want to hear from anyone other than Serbs go to that site, and leave this one for international posters who are interested in what is happening between Serbia and its neighbors.
Again it is not YOUR site it is B92 and they have full power to print comments or not, if they did not want to hear viewpoints in opposition to you then they would not print it. But there is a whole world out there that has a viewpoint in opposition to yours. So best advice is go to the Serbian site or be quiet.

Hey think again. You're telling someone to be quiet because you don't agree with his viewpoint. It's ok for you to do this but not someone else. Best advice is for you to practice what you preach.
(Gerhard, 22 January 2015 15:45)
You seem to have a comprehension problem so maybe I can help you with that. I have no problems with his viewpoints, as a matter of fact they have been a great source of amusement over the years. I do have issues with him making use of falsehoods to support his viewpoints though.
But my post was in response to his insisting that the English version of B92 was only for Serbs. If it did not include anything to do with Kosovo, Croatia, Albania, the US or China etc, I could agree with him. But most of the articles have very little to do with only Serbia. If he wants only Serbs and those of similar viewpoints he should stick with the Serbian language version. But if he wants to participate in discussions that are geared to the international community then he needs to understand that chances are slim most anyone will agree with him. No one is going away just because he or you do not like what they have to say. As I said before if B92 does not want posts from opposing viewpoints they have clear editorial ability to not post it. But telling others not to come onto a Serbian site just makes him look like an idiot.

why wouldn’t Moscow borrow to meet any deficit like everyone else until the price rises???? Russia’s debt is only 10% of GDP.
(sj, 20 January 2015 10:44)
You are a funny man, I guess, You could actually be female for all I know as very little of what you have represented here has actually been true.
I won't debate whether or not you did claim that Serbia would control Europe by turning on and off the valves of the South Stream with Russia's blessing, you know, I know and the rest of the readers know what was said.
Russia's borrowing money, from who? with the Ruble at its level I am sure people are rushing to loan them money. Do you really believe the Oil prices are just a coincidence????
Remember Russia fled Afghanistan with their tail between their legs long before NATO did. And what about the totally embarrassing exit from Kosovo?? Which is actually the real reason Russia uses its position in the UNSC to block the west on Kosovo, not some idiotic claims of brotherhood.

But as we can see, that was just a fail from the very beginning.
(Ari Gold, 20 January 2015 00:56)

Its quite the contrary. The first phase was very successful. The waters were tested. Out of all of this you have no politician in Belgrade, Prishtina, or N.Mitro disagreeing about selling the mine. You have the EU telling Serbia that it cannot condition the selling with walking out of the Brussels negotiations. The US is slowing the process down. We now have the full picture. The mine will be sold and Thaci, Mustafa, Vucic, and Nikolic will sit down in Brussels and state the cut they will take for themselves. This has already been decided and it wasn't neither Vucic nor Thaci doing the deciding.

(sj, 21 January 2015 11:49)
Whether you meant all of Europe or the Balkans or just a few countries, it really does not matter. In the end you were 100% wrong and Serbia does not control sh**! Your claims that south stream is still on the table you must mean the map of south stream is still on the table being used as a table cloth.
And of course you were wrong in Serbia being able to control any of the valves as those would have been firmly in the control of Russia and any Serbian hands attempting to turn them off would have probably suffered from frost bite. Serbs in Serbia(and elsewhere are just as impotent today as they were in May of 1999)A lot of hot air and not much substance.

Also for the record I have never said that Serbia will control Europe via gas, I was only talking about the Balkans.
(sj, 20 January 2015 22:45)

Well, for the record, there is an sj who is the CE of B92 forums who said more than two years ago http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=92898#k425008 that "Serbia will create even more problems once the South stream passes through as it will control the life blood of Europe, or the other half anyway."

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Also for the record I have never said that Serbia will control Europe via gas, I was only talking about the Balkans.
(sj, 20 January 2015 22:45)

Well, for the record, there is an sj who is the CE of B92 forums who said more than two years ago http://www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=92898#k425008 that "Serbia will create even more problems once the South stream passes through as it will control the life blood of Europe, or the other half anyway."

P.S. CE = Chief Economist
(icj1, 21 January 2015 02:52)

Unfortunately B92 has placed a limit on the word count and its never possible to fully qualify any a statement so some things have to be left out. However, it’s mainly the Balkans but it can also be the EU with Russia’s support. I hope I have cleared that up.
P.S. CTC = Chief Toilet Cleaner
(sj, 21 January 2015 11:30)

Oh, yeah, sure... whatever. Just wanted to clarify the record in regards to "I have never said that Serbia will control Europe via gas". But don't worry mate, I do fully sympathize: it's difficult even for somebody like the CE of B92 forums sj to keep the stories consistent when they are based on BS and lies :)

P.S. CE = Chief Economist

Awfully wordy explanation you wrote. Not worth my time to belabor the point.
Freedom of expression allows for exchange of opinions, as well as your need to be boorish and insulting.
(Gerhard, 23 January 2015 01:33
That's the beauty, freedom to write ones own opinion and freedom to not read it, and freedom to respond. Now your gripes should be aimed at those who tell others not to come here if they are not Serbian.