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Tuesday, 09.12.2014.

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"Nobody's asking Serbia to recognize Kosovo"

Serbian Prime Minister Aleksandar Vucic told reporters in Belgrade on Tuesday that "nobody is asking Serbia to recognize Kosovo."

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mina

pre 9 godina

@ icj1

"but fortunately the suffering is less now"

You think they are better off now? Even if that's the case, it won't be the case for too long and Albanians know that, that's why they bitch everybody about their "independence". Look how many Albanians are here, if they weren't worried about their future they wouldn't spend a minute reading and writing in a Serbian site. Their future is pretty much predetermined, because international independence cannot be achieved unless everybody recognizes independence. And as long as Serbia refuses, 70-80 countries will keep refusing, so Albanians can kiss goodbye their bright and happy future. That's always the case in situations like this.

icj1

pre 9 godina

The only ones who will suffer from this are the people who live in KosMet, because you have no idea how it's like to not be internationally recognized.
(mina, 11 December 2014 13:32)

Yeah, sure, that's a lot of suffering but fortunately the suffering is less now when they are internationally recognized by 108 countries vs when they were part of Serbia and were internationally recognized by 1 country.

mina

pre 9 godina

@ Mark

"And yet the only facts that matter are that you Greeks cannot set foot in N.Cyprus and Serbs in Kosovo. "

You are right Mark, that's exactly the point. Greeks cannot set foot in Northern Cyprus (NC), though Turkey is the only country that recognizes NC. What makes you think Albanians will be able to set foot in KosMet, given that Serbia and 75 more countries refuse to recognize Kosovo? NC is not independent unless we say it is and we will never say it is. KosMet is not independent unless Serbia says so and Serbia will never say so. It's not about being an internet warrior or any other warrior, it's all about diplomacy now; all the countries on the planet that had or have or could have similar problems with the problem that Serbia has in KosMet will never recognize KosMet, it's that simple. The only ones who will suffer from this are the people who live in KosMet, because you have no idea how it's like to not be internationally recognized. This is why the Turks in NC beg us to recognize them. And because of the fact that we can't set foot in NC, we will never recognize them. So they can keep begging for ever, that's not our problem, that's their problem.

sj

pre 9 godina

You and Christina need to get together as she thinks that NATO bombed only Serbia and left the Albanians alone. She also contradicts you in that she says the west has not invested anything in Serbia only in Kosovo.
(Maybe its time to talk, 10 December 2014 14:27)
Kosovo is part of Serbia and yes NATO did bomb Serbia, but they dropped bombs indiscriminately in Kosovo. The west did not care what they hit because they could blame Slobo. They did not give a fig about the Albos then or now.

icj1

pre 9 godina

So has the IMF and World Bank and where has that got the Albos? Nowhere.
(sj, 10 December 2014 08:58)

Wery wise words, as always. Hopefully the most patriotic of Serbs will also agree that membership is international organizations alone does not get a country to anywhere...

irini

pre 9 godina

Mark, ironically the Turks in Cyprus, your Islamic brothers, refuse to recognize Kosovo!! Do you know why? Because they know very well how it's like to be "independent" without full international recognition. THAT is the fact. If you were so confident about Kosovo and Metohija's future and you considered your "independence" as a fact, you wouldn't be here now chatting with Serbs. The first day I saw the comments I thought the site was an Albanian site.So many Albanians in here! Then I realized how scary you must be. Well, you should, ask the Turks in Cyprus for advice. Hahaha. Greetings from Greece, Mark!

Mark

pre 9 godina

Mark, unless you are Turkish your country does not recognize Northern Cyrus (the only country worldwide that does so is Turkey). So, your PM has a bit different opinion than yours. But our PM in Greece supports the Greek public's opinion which is that: Kosovo is the heart of Serbia.
(irini, 10 December 2014 16:19)

And yet the only facts that matter are that you greeks cannot set foot in N.Cyprus and Serbs in Kosovo. Keep fighting your internet wars.

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

Enough with the BS.
Insulting your citizens' intelligence isn't going to be good for you.
Even the ones with blinkers on can surely see what it's going to take to get into EU.
Peggy, Dec 10th

Fully agree, they have to stop lying to their own people, but I have little hope they will. They will go on spinning all kinds of stories, and will go on the way they have in the past. A referendum like you suggested a while ago would finally put an end to it, but they do not have the courage to do that. At the same time there should also be a referendum held in Kosovo, because the people living there are one's who are really affected. This entire discussion is done without even asking what people effected by all this Bla-Bla want, and that is the citizens of Serbia and Kosovo. The amendment to the serbian constitution which makes Kosovo part of Serbia was smuggled into it by Kustonica at the very last moment, and can also be taken out the same way. What counts is what the people want.

irini

pre 9 godina

Mark, unless you are Turkish your country does not recognize Northern Cyrus (the only country worldwide that does so is Turkey). So, your PM has a bit different opinion than yours. But our PM in Greece supports the Greek public's opinion which is that: Kosovo is the heart of Serbia.

New Yorker

pre 9 godina

So has the IMF and World Bank and where has that got the Albos? Nowhere. Anyway what are the Albos going to compete in? Goat or Criminality? They may ask the IOC to have it as a test sport. LOL
(sj, 10 December 2014 08:58)

If Drug Running is added then they'll be favorites to win gold! And if Organ Trafficking is added then a medal sweep is virtually guaranteed!! LOL

Mark

pre 9 godina

So no don't worry, no matter what they say about us, about our country, about our people, about our history, the answer in Greece is one: Kosovo and Metohija is Serbia. Greeks love Serbs. Take care of yourself in windy Chicago!
(irini, 9 December 2014 23:05)

Northern Cyprus is Turkish. There is no Metohija and Kosovo belongs to the Albanians. Now you brave greek internet warriors go and get N.Cyprus from the Turks and you serbs come and get Kosovo from us.

Maybe its time to talk

pre 9 godina

Perhaps that’s why NATO bombed Kosovo indiscriminately as the US could not see the Albos as worthwhile except for cannon fodder.
(sj, 10 December 2014 09:03)
You and Christina need to get together as she thinks that NATO bombed only Serbia and left the Albanians alone. She also contradicts you in that she says the west has not invested anything in Serbia only in Kosovo.

sj

pre 9 godina

Your absolutely right, all you Chetnik rats are right! I for 1, truly hope that Serbia never recognizes
The independent & sovereign republic of Kosova, as much more will be accomplished by & for Kosova! Keep up your barbaric stance radical Serbia, as it breathes more life & strengths unto my evolution! I wonder, had Serbia never adopted these apartheid & radical policy's towards Kosova, Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia, where would we be today? So please, Keep up the work radical Serbia!
P.S. There's a old Albanian saying
( My foe has so desperately tried to vanquish me, although painful, it has been the greatest blessing )
(Rocky, 9 December 2014 15:14)
Don’t worry we will keep up the “radical” work. Deep down people like you admire Serbs because they stand up to all whereas your lot have grovelled for so long on their bellies they don’t understand what it means to walk up right. Perhaps that’s why NATO bombed Kosovo indiscriminately as the US could not see the Albos as worthwhile except for cannon fodder.

sj

pre 9 godina

How about the IOC, which recognized Kosovo today. Just another defeat for those people who are suck in 1389.
(Willi Pfaff, 9 December 2014 15:54)

So has the IMF and World Bank and where has that got the Albos? Nowhere. Anyway what are the Albos going to compete in? Goat or Criminality? They may ask the IOC to have it as a test sport. LOL

cry me a river

pre 9 godina

@ irini. First of all greetings from Chicago we Serbs know Alexander the great was Greek ps Mark is not a Serb .
(Grobar1

I thought Alexander's father, Phillip II, fought to occupy the Greeks. Wasn't he and the Macedonians referred to as 'dogs'?!

Brian

pre 9 godina

No one has to ask anymore. Serbia knows it must. That's why dejan pavicevic is ambassador and there are border guards and customs agents and Serbia supported republic of Kosovo ballots. No euphemisms!

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

How about the IOC, which recognized Kosovo today. Just another defeat for those people who are suck in 1389.
(Willi Pfaff, 9 December 2014 15:54)

Not really. I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner. Palestine has been participating in the Olympics since 86 (you were still probably really old then too), and they aren't a country even today.

Nice that you know so much about the history of Kosovo-Metohija. This means you know that after it was taken from us in 1389, we got it back eventually. After you Nazis took it in 45, we got it back. We'll get it back from you Nazis again. Maybe not in your lifetime because you're in the twilight, but hopefully in your grandchildren's!

irini

pre 9 godina

@ Grobar1

Zdravo brat! Yes, I know that Mark is not a Serb and I know that Serbs know history, but what these Albos don't know is that we couldn't care less about their opinion in Greece! They come on Greek forums and tell us "if you recognize Kosovo we will not support FYORM"! What a pathetic way of thinking. Do they actually think we will feel sorry if they say things against us? We will take it as a compliment. So no don't worry, no matter what they say about us, about our country, about our people, about our history, the answer in Greece is one: Kosovo and Metohija is Serbia. Greeks love Serbs. Take care of yourself in windy Chicago!

irini

pre 9 godina

@ Rocky

"The fact of the matter is Serbia has & cannot do or say anything in regards to Kosova and her people!"

If that was the case dude, you wouldn't be here, would you? Your presence here proves that you are worried about Serbia's next move. You are anxious to get some idea about what Serbs think, what they say to each other about the EU and Kosovo. If you were sooo relaxed and confident as you want us to believe you wouldn't waste your time writing in your enemy's web site. So go entertain someone else with your lies. Greetings from Greece, "Rocky"!

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Enough with the BS.
Insulting your citizens' intelligence isn't going to be good for you.
Even the ones with blinkers on can surely see what it's going to take to get into EU. Maybe they are ready to pay the price but I would think that most are not.

Aleksandar

pre 9 godina

Statements made by Serbian officials seem to always be contradicting one another. President says EU asks recognition of Kosovo, PM says no. One day they say Russia is Serbia's historical ally and a very friendly country, the next day they say they will join sanctions later when they join the EU and they just need Russia for gas security and for economic reason.... I don't know what to make of them and their contradicting statements. One day they say they are on the EU/western side on most issues, the next day you see Nikolic meeting with presidents of Belarus and North Korea. Seriously?

Mark

pre 9 godina

Mark,

You can't really hurt me feelings like that. Kosovo is the heart of Serbia, greetings from Greece
(irini, 9 December 2014 16:46)

Nope. Just trying to point at your hypocrisy. According to you Greeks the slavs that have claims over greek heritage or territory are bad but those slavs that do the same towards Albanian heritage or territory are good. These are the same slav invaders that showed up in the Balkans in the 7th century. Whatever land they got they stole it. The heart of Serbia is in the mountains of Iran not in Kosovo.

Rocky

pre 9 godina

You can't really hurt me feelings like that. Kosovo is the heart of Serbia, greetings from Greece
(irini, 9 December 2014 16:46)

What childish talk, if that were the case Serbia would be calling the shots in Kosova, Serbia's military would be in Kosova! The fact of the matter is Serbia has & cannot do or say anything in regards to Kosova and her people! So go ahead entertaining yourselves heartless Serbia, just keep walking & talking like a heartless zombie!

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

@irini
Your post is the most nauseating thing I've read in a long time. Its a good thing I read it however as I now know to avoid your comments

Rocky

pre 9 godina

Your absolutely right, all you Chetnik rats are right! I for 1, truly hope that Serbia never recognizes
The independent & sovereign republic of Kosova, as much more will be accomplished by & for Kosova! Keep up your barbaric stance radical Serbia, as it breathes more life & strengths unto my evolution! I wonder, had Serbia never adopted these apartheid & radical policy's towards Kosova, Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia, where would we be today? So please, Keep up the work radical Serbia!
P.S. There's a old Albanian saying
( My foe has so desperately tried to vanquish me, although painful, it has been the greatest blessing )

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 9 godina

Most respectfully Mr. Vucic enough is enough. EU is not for Serbia or as a matter of fact not for any Slavic Eastern Orthodox nation. If I were today in Serbia an official cival leader I would first focus my TOTAL efforts on NATIONAL SECURITY, reinforcing the borders, building up and modernizing military capabilities, FULL participation and integration with Russian and Chinies military support. Second the ECONOMY, expansion into the East Asian, Indian and Russian frontiers for an open market. Now for 25 years Serbian people have been subjected to the most humiliating punishment in our history by our centuries old enemies and it just is getting worse as every day passes. Serbian cival leaders must stop entertaining USA, England and Germany and start focusing on a positive future with growth and stability. Growth and stability for Slavic Eastern Orthodox people will NEVER come from Roman Catholic Empire! Now for 25 years the Serbian people suffering and on top of it all HUMILIATION, this has to come to an end now! There is no reason today that Serbia has to be isolated, we must turn away from the enemy and face the other friendly nations out there who are willing to accept us as partners in economic ventures. " The Rising Sun ", Russia, China and India never hostile and always sympathetic to Serbia. Liberty and Peace will never come to the Serbian people from the evil West, we Eastern Orthodox Christians face the Rising Sun when we pray!!!

irini

pre 9 godina

Is that so? Because it seems to me that the only thing the EU has been asking Serbia to do is give away its own territory.

Most people think that having a war is the hardest thing on Earth. It's the ugliest, but it's not the hardest. Achieving international (and therefore financial) independence after stealing a country's State is the hardest. Look at Northern Cyprus, look how messed up they are 40 years after the Turkish invasion. The Turkish Cypriots ask Greek Cypriots to become one united country and forget about the past. They tell the world that they are not Turkish but Ottomans (don't ask me what's the difference in that) and that they hate Turkey (I guess in their minds Ottomans can hate Turkey). It took us 4 centuries to take Greece back, don't they know we are willing to wait till eternity to free Cyprus? If Kosovo's independence was a sure thing for them, they wouldn't try to divide the Serbian nation between pro-westerns and anti-westerns. I guess they don't know history well. They don't know who Serbs are. Stay united brothers, Kosovo is the heart of Serbia.

Rocky

pre 9 godina

Your absolutely right, all you Chetnik rats are right! I for 1, truly hope that Serbia never recognizes
The independent & sovereign republic of Kosova, as much more will be accomplished by & for Kosova! Keep up your barbaric stance radical Serbia, as it breathes more life & strengths unto my evolution! I wonder, had Serbia never adopted these apartheid & radical policy's towards Kosova, Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia, where would we be today? So please, Keep up the work radical Serbia!
P.S. There's a old Albanian saying
( My foe has so desperately tried to vanquish me, although painful, it has been the greatest blessing )

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 9 godina

Most respectfully Mr. Vucic enough is enough. EU is not for Serbia or as a matter of fact not for any Slavic Eastern Orthodox nation. If I were today in Serbia an official cival leader I would first focus my TOTAL efforts on NATIONAL SECURITY, reinforcing the borders, building up and modernizing military capabilities, FULL participation and integration with Russian and Chinies military support. Second the ECONOMY, expansion into the East Asian, Indian and Russian frontiers for an open market. Now for 25 years Serbian people have been subjected to the most humiliating punishment in our history by our centuries old enemies and it just is getting worse as every day passes. Serbian cival leaders must stop entertaining USA, England and Germany and start focusing on a positive future with growth and stability. Growth and stability for Slavic Eastern Orthodox people will NEVER come from Roman Catholic Empire! Now for 25 years the Serbian people suffering and on top of it all HUMILIATION, this has to come to an end now! There is no reason today that Serbia has to be isolated, we must turn away from the enemy and face the other friendly nations out there who are willing to accept us as partners in economic ventures. " The Rising Sun ", Russia, China and India never hostile and always sympathetic to Serbia. Liberty and Peace will never come to the Serbian people from the evil West, we Eastern Orthodox Christians face the Rising Sun when we pray!!!

irini

pre 9 godina

Is that so? Because it seems to me that the only thing the EU has been asking Serbia to do is give away its own territory.

Most people think that having a war is the hardest thing on Earth. It's the ugliest, but it's not the hardest. Achieving international (and therefore financial) independence after stealing a country's State is the hardest. Look at Northern Cyprus, look how messed up they are 40 years after the Turkish invasion. The Turkish Cypriots ask Greek Cypriots to become one united country and forget about the past. They tell the world that they are not Turkish but Ottomans (don't ask me what's the difference in that) and that they hate Turkey (I guess in their minds Ottomans can hate Turkey). It took us 4 centuries to take Greece back, don't they know we are willing to wait till eternity to free Cyprus? If Kosovo's independence was a sure thing for them, they wouldn't try to divide the Serbian nation between pro-westerns and anti-westerns. I guess they don't know history well. They don't know who Serbs are. Stay united brothers, Kosovo is the heart of Serbia.

Aleksandar

pre 9 godina

Statements made by Serbian officials seem to always be contradicting one another. President says EU asks recognition of Kosovo, PM says no. One day they say Russia is Serbia's historical ally and a very friendly country, the next day they say they will join sanctions later when they join the EU and they just need Russia for gas security and for economic reason.... I don't know what to make of them and their contradicting statements. One day they say they are on the EU/western side on most issues, the next day you see Nikolic meeting with presidents of Belarus and North Korea. Seriously?

Mark

pre 9 godina

Mark,

You can't really hurt me feelings like that. Kosovo is the heart of Serbia, greetings from Greece
(irini, 9 December 2014 16:46)

Nope. Just trying to point at your hypocrisy. According to you Greeks the slavs that have claims over greek heritage or territory are bad but those slavs that do the same towards Albanian heritage or territory are good. These are the same slav invaders that showed up in the Balkans in the 7th century. Whatever land they got they stole it. The heart of Serbia is in the mountains of Iran not in Kosovo.

Rocky

pre 9 godina

You can't really hurt me feelings like that. Kosovo is the heart of Serbia, greetings from Greece
(irini, 9 December 2014 16:46)

What childish talk, if that were the case Serbia would be calling the shots in Kosova, Serbia's military would be in Kosova! The fact of the matter is Serbia has & cannot do or say anything in regards to Kosova and her people! So go ahead entertaining yourselves heartless Serbia, just keep walking & talking like a heartless zombie!

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

@irini
Your post is the most nauseating thing I've read in a long time. Its a good thing I read it however as I now know to avoid your comments

irini

pre 9 godina

@ Grobar1

Zdravo brat! Yes, I know that Mark is not a Serb and I know that Serbs know history, but what these Albos don't know is that we couldn't care less about their opinion in Greece! They come on Greek forums and tell us "if you recognize Kosovo we will not support FYORM"! What a pathetic way of thinking. Do they actually think we will feel sorry if they say things against us? We will take it as a compliment. So no don't worry, no matter what they say about us, about our country, about our people, about our history, the answer in Greece is one: Kosovo and Metohija is Serbia. Greeks love Serbs. Take care of yourself in windy Chicago!

sj

pre 9 godina

Your absolutely right, all you Chetnik rats are right! I for 1, truly hope that Serbia never recognizes
The independent & sovereign republic of Kosova, as much more will be accomplished by & for Kosova! Keep up your barbaric stance radical Serbia, as it breathes more life & strengths unto my evolution! I wonder, had Serbia never adopted these apartheid & radical policy's towards Kosova, Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia, where would we be today? So please, Keep up the work radical Serbia!
P.S. There's a old Albanian saying
( My foe has so desperately tried to vanquish me, although painful, it has been the greatest blessing )
(Rocky, 9 December 2014 15:14)
Don’t worry we will keep up the “radical” work. Deep down people like you admire Serbs because they stand up to all whereas your lot have grovelled for so long on their bellies they don’t understand what it means to walk up right. Perhaps that’s why NATO bombed Kosovo indiscriminately as the US could not see the Albos as worthwhile except for cannon fodder.

irini

pre 9 godina

@ Rocky

"The fact of the matter is Serbia has & cannot do or say anything in regards to Kosova and her people!"

If that was the case dude, you wouldn't be here, would you? Your presence here proves that you are worried about Serbia's next move. You are anxious to get some idea about what Serbs think, what they say to each other about the EU and Kosovo. If you were sooo relaxed and confident as you want us to believe you wouldn't waste your time writing in your enemy's web site. So go entertain someone else with your lies. Greetings from Greece, "Rocky"!

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

How about the IOC, which recognized Kosovo today. Just another defeat for those people who are suck in 1389.
(Willi Pfaff, 9 December 2014 15:54)

Not really. I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner. Palestine has been participating in the Olympics since 86 (you were still probably really old then too), and they aren't a country even today.

Nice that you know so much about the history of Kosovo-Metohija. This means you know that after it was taken from us in 1389, we got it back eventually. After you Nazis took it in 45, we got it back. We'll get it back from you Nazis again. Maybe not in your lifetime because you're in the twilight, but hopefully in your grandchildren's!

sj

pre 9 godina

How about the IOC, which recognized Kosovo today. Just another defeat for those people who are suck in 1389.
(Willi Pfaff, 9 December 2014 15:54)

So has the IMF and World Bank and where has that got the Albos? Nowhere. Anyway what are the Albos going to compete in? Goat or Criminality? They may ask the IOC to have it as a test sport. LOL

New Yorker

pre 9 godina

So has the IMF and World Bank and where has that got the Albos? Nowhere. Anyway what are the Albos going to compete in? Goat or Criminality? They may ask the IOC to have it as a test sport. LOL
(sj, 10 December 2014 08:58)

If Drug Running is added then they'll be favorites to win gold! And if Organ Trafficking is added then a medal sweep is virtually guaranteed!! LOL

irini

pre 9 godina

Mark, unless you are Turkish your country does not recognize Northern Cyrus (the only country worldwide that does so is Turkey). So, your PM has a bit different opinion than yours. But our PM in Greece supports the Greek public's opinion which is that: Kosovo is the heart of Serbia.

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

Enough with the BS.
Insulting your citizens' intelligence isn't going to be good for you.
Even the ones with blinkers on can surely see what it's going to take to get into EU.
Peggy, Dec 10th

Fully agree, they have to stop lying to their own people, but I have little hope they will. They will go on spinning all kinds of stories, and will go on the way they have in the past. A referendum like you suggested a while ago would finally put an end to it, but they do not have the courage to do that. At the same time there should also be a referendum held in Kosovo, because the people living there are one's who are really affected. This entire discussion is done without even asking what people effected by all this Bla-Bla want, and that is the citizens of Serbia and Kosovo. The amendment to the serbian constitution which makes Kosovo part of Serbia was smuggled into it by Kustonica at the very last moment, and can also be taken out the same way. What counts is what the people want.

Mark

pre 9 godina

Mark, unless you are Turkish your country does not recognize Northern Cyrus (the only country worldwide that does so is Turkey). So, your PM has a bit different opinion than yours. But our PM in Greece supports the Greek public's opinion which is that: Kosovo is the heart of Serbia.
(irini, 10 December 2014 16:19)

And yet the only facts that matter are that you greeks cannot set foot in N.Cyprus and Serbs in Kosovo. Keep fighting your internet wars.

irini

pre 9 godina

Mark, ironically the Turks in Cyprus, your Islamic brothers, refuse to recognize Kosovo!! Do you know why? Because they know very well how it's like to be "independent" without full international recognition. THAT is the fact. If you were so confident about Kosovo and Metohija's future and you considered your "independence" as a fact, you wouldn't be here now chatting with Serbs. The first day I saw the comments I thought the site was an Albanian site.So many Albanians in here! Then I realized how scary you must be. Well, you should, ask the Turks in Cyprus for advice. Hahaha. Greetings from Greece, Mark!

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Enough with the BS.
Insulting your citizens' intelligence isn't going to be good for you.
Even the ones with blinkers on can surely see what it's going to take to get into EU. Maybe they are ready to pay the price but I would think that most are not.

icj1

pre 9 godina

So has the IMF and World Bank and where has that got the Albos? Nowhere.
(sj, 10 December 2014 08:58)

Wery wise words, as always. Hopefully the most patriotic of Serbs will also agree that membership is international organizations alone does not get a country to anywhere...

sj

pre 9 godina

You and Christina need to get together as she thinks that NATO bombed only Serbia and left the Albanians alone. She also contradicts you in that she says the west has not invested anything in Serbia only in Kosovo.
(Maybe its time to talk, 10 December 2014 14:27)
Kosovo is part of Serbia and yes NATO did bomb Serbia, but they dropped bombs indiscriminately in Kosovo. The west did not care what they hit because they could blame Slobo. They did not give a fig about the Albos then or now.

Maybe its time to talk

pre 9 godina

Perhaps that’s why NATO bombed Kosovo indiscriminately as the US could not see the Albos as worthwhile except for cannon fodder.
(sj, 10 December 2014 09:03)
You and Christina need to get together as she thinks that NATO bombed only Serbia and left the Albanians alone. She also contradicts you in that she says the west has not invested anything in Serbia only in Kosovo.

Mark

pre 9 godina

So no don't worry, no matter what they say about us, about our country, about our people, about our history, the answer in Greece is one: Kosovo and Metohija is Serbia. Greeks love Serbs. Take care of yourself in windy Chicago!
(irini, 9 December 2014 23:05)

Northern Cyprus is Turkish. There is no Metohija and Kosovo belongs to the Albanians. Now you brave greek internet warriors go and get N.Cyprus from the Turks and you serbs come and get Kosovo from us.

mina

pre 9 godina

@ Mark

"And yet the only facts that matter are that you Greeks cannot set foot in N.Cyprus and Serbs in Kosovo. "

You are right Mark, that's exactly the point. Greeks cannot set foot in Northern Cyprus (NC), though Turkey is the only country that recognizes NC. What makes you think Albanians will be able to set foot in KosMet, given that Serbia and 75 more countries refuse to recognize Kosovo? NC is not independent unless we say it is and we will never say it is. KosMet is not independent unless Serbia says so and Serbia will never say so. It's not about being an internet warrior or any other warrior, it's all about diplomacy now; all the countries on the planet that had or have or could have similar problems with the problem that Serbia has in KosMet will never recognize KosMet, it's that simple. The only ones who will suffer from this are the people who live in KosMet, because you have no idea how it's like to not be internationally recognized. This is why the Turks in NC beg us to recognize them. And because of the fact that we can't set foot in NC, we will never recognize them. So they can keep begging for ever, that's not our problem, that's their problem.

Brian

pre 9 godina

No one has to ask anymore. Serbia knows it must. That's why dejan pavicevic is ambassador and there are border guards and customs agents and Serbia supported republic of Kosovo ballots. No euphemisms!

cry me a river

pre 9 godina

@ irini. First of all greetings from Chicago we Serbs know Alexander the great was Greek ps Mark is not a Serb .
(Grobar1

I thought Alexander's father, Phillip II, fought to occupy the Greeks. Wasn't he and the Macedonians referred to as 'dogs'?!

icj1

pre 9 godina

The only ones who will suffer from this are the people who live in KosMet, because you have no idea how it's like to not be internationally recognized.
(mina, 11 December 2014 13:32)

Yeah, sure, that's a lot of suffering but fortunately the suffering is less now when they are internationally recognized by 108 countries vs when they were part of Serbia and were internationally recognized by 1 country.

mina

pre 9 godina

@ icj1

"but fortunately the suffering is less now"

You think they are better off now? Even if that's the case, it won't be the case for too long and Albanians know that, that's why they bitch everybody about their "independence". Look how many Albanians are here, if they weren't worried about their future they wouldn't spend a minute reading and writing in a Serbian site. Their future is pretty much predetermined, because international independence cannot be achieved unless everybody recognizes independence. And as long as Serbia refuses, 70-80 countries will keep refusing, so Albanians can kiss goodbye their bright and happy future. That's always the case in situations like this.

Rocky

pre 9 godina

Your absolutely right, all you Chetnik rats are right! I for 1, truly hope that Serbia never recognizes
The independent & sovereign republic of Kosova, as much more will be accomplished by & for Kosova! Keep up your barbaric stance radical Serbia, as it breathes more life & strengths unto my evolution! I wonder, had Serbia never adopted these apartheid & radical policy's towards Kosova, Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia, where would we be today? So please, Keep up the work radical Serbia!
P.S. There's a old Albanian saying
( My foe has so desperately tried to vanquish me, although painful, it has been the greatest blessing )

irini

pre 9 godina

Is that so? Because it seems to me that the only thing the EU has been asking Serbia to do is give away its own territory.

Most people think that having a war is the hardest thing on Earth. It's the ugliest, but it's not the hardest. Achieving international (and therefore financial) independence after stealing a country's State is the hardest. Look at Northern Cyprus, look how messed up they are 40 years after the Turkish invasion. The Turkish Cypriots ask Greek Cypriots to become one united country and forget about the past. They tell the world that they are not Turkish but Ottomans (don't ask me what's the difference in that) and that they hate Turkey (I guess in their minds Ottomans can hate Turkey). It took us 4 centuries to take Greece back, don't they know we are willing to wait till eternity to free Cyprus? If Kosovo's independence was a sure thing for them, they wouldn't try to divide the Serbian nation between pro-westerns and anti-westerns. I guess they don't know history well. They don't know who Serbs are. Stay united brothers, Kosovo is the heart of Serbia.

Dragoljub Djurkovic

pre 9 godina

Most respectfully Mr. Vucic enough is enough. EU is not for Serbia or as a matter of fact not for any Slavic Eastern Orthodox nation. If I were today in Serbia an official cival leader I would first focus my TOTAL efforts on NATIONAL SECURITY, reinforcing the borders, building up and modernizing military capabilities, FULL participation and integration with Russian and Chinies military support. Second the ECONOMY, expansion into the East Asian, Indian and Russian frontiers for an open market. Now for 25 years Serbian people have been subjected to the most humiliating punishment in our history by our centuries old enemies and it just is getting worse as every day passes. Serbian cival leaders must stop entertaining USA, England and Germany and start focusing on a positive future with growth and stability. Growth and stability for Slavic Eastern Orthodox people will NEVER come from Roman Catholic Empire! Now for 25 years the Serbian people suffering and on top of it all HUMILIATION, this has to come to an end now! There is no reason today that Serbia has to be isolated, we must turn away from the enemy and face the other friendly nations out there who are willing to accept us as partners in economic ventures. " The Rising Sun ", Russia, China and India never hostile and always sympathetic to Serbia. Liberty and Peace will never come to the Serbian people from the evil West, we Eastern Orthodox Christians face the Rising Sun when we pray!!!

Mark

pre 9 godina

Mark,

You can't really hurt me feelings like that. Kosovo is the heart of Serbia, greetings from Greece
(irini, 9 December 2014 16:46)

Nope. Just trying to point at your hypocrisy. According to you Greeks the slavs that have claims over greek heritage or territory are bad but those slavs that do the same towards Albanian heritage or territory are good. These are the same slav invaders that showed up in the Balkans in the 7th century. Whatever land they got they stole it. The heart of Serbia is in the mountains of Iran not in Kosovo.

Rocky

pre 9 godina

You can't really hurt me feelings like that. Kosovo is the heart of Serbia, greetings from Greece
(irini, 9 December 2014 16:46)

What childish talk, if that were the case Serbia would be calling the shots in Kosova, Serbia's military would be in Kosova! The fact of the matter is Serbia has & cannot do or say anything in regards to Kosova and her people! So go ahead entertaining yourselves heartless Serbia, just keep walking & talking like a heartless zombie!

Nikolle

pre 9 godina

@irini
Your post is the most nauseating thing I've read in a long time. Its a good thing I read it however as I now know to avoid your comments

sj

pre 9 godina

How about the IOC, which recognized Kosovo today. Just another defeat for those people who are suck in 1389.
(Willi Pfaff, 9 December 2014 15:54)

So has the IMF and World Bank and where has that got the Albos? Nowhere. Anyway what are the Albos going to compete in? Goat or Criminality? They may ask the IOC to have it as a test sport. LOL

Brian

pre 9 godina

No one has to ask anymore. Serbia knows it must. That's why dejan pavicevic is ambassador and there are border guards and customs agents and Serbia supported republic of Kosovo ballots. No euphemisms!

sj

pre 9 godina

Your absolutely right, all you Chetnik rats are right! I for 1, truly hope that Serbia never recognizes
The independent & sovereign republic of Kosova, as much more will be accomplished by & for Kosova! Keep up your barbaric stance radical Serbia, as it breathes more life & strengths unto my evolution! I wonder, had Serbia never adopted these apartheid & radical policy's towards Kosova, Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia, where would we be today? So please, Keep up the work radical Serbia!
P.S. There's a old Albanian saying
( My foe has so desperately tried to vanquish me, although painful, it has been the greatest blessing )
(Rocky, 9 December 2014 15:14)
Don’t worry we will keep up the “radical” work. Deep down people like you admire Serbs because they stand up to all whereas your lot have grovelled for so long on their bellies they don’t understand what it means to walk up right. Perhaps that’s why NATO bombed Kosovo indiscriminately as the US could not see the Albos as worthwhile except for cannon fodder.

cry me a river

pre 9 godina

@ irini. First of all greetings from Chicago we Serbs know Alexander the great was Greek ps Mark is not a Serb .
(Grobar1

I thought Alexander's father, Phillip II, fought to occupy the Greeks. Wasn't he and the Macedonians referred to as 'dogs'?!

Mark

pre 9 godina

So no don't worry, no matter what they say about us, about our country, about our people, about our history, the answer in Greece is one: Kosovo and Metohija is Serbia. Greeks love Serbs. Take care of yourself in windy Chicago!
(irini, 9 December 2014 23:05)

Northern Cyprus is Turkish. There is no Metohija and Kosovo belongs to the Albanians. Now you brave greek internet warriors go and get N.Cyprus from the Turks and you serbs come and get Kosovo from us.

New Yorker

pre 9 godina

So has the IMF and World Bank and where has that got the Albos? Nowhere. Anyway what are the Albos going to compete in? Goat or Criminality? They may ask the IOC to have it as a test sport. LOL
(sj, 10 December 2014 08:58)

If Drug Running is added then they'll be favorites to win gold! And if Organ Trafficking is added then a medal sweep is virtually guaranteed!! LOL

irini

pre 9 godina

Mark, unless you are Turkish your country does not recognize Northern Cyrus (the only country worldwide that does so is Turkey). So, your PM has a bit different opinion than yours. But our PM in Greece supports the Greek public's opinion which is that: Kosovo is the heart of Serbia.

Mark

pre 9 godina

Mark, unless you are Turkish your country does not recognize Northern Cyrus (the only country worldwide that does so is Turkey). So, your PM has a bit different opinion than yours. But our PM in Greece supports the Greek public's opinion which is that: Kosovo is the heart of Serbia.
(irini, 10 December 2014 16:19)

And yet the only facts that matter are that you greeks cannot set foot in N.Cyprus and Serbs in Kosovo. Keep fighting your internet wars.

Ari Gold

pre 9 godina

How about the IOC, which recognized Kosovo today. Just another defeat for those people who are suck in 1389.
(Willi Pfaff, 9 December 2014 15:54)

Not really. I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner. Palestine has been participating in the Olympics since 86 (you were still probably really old then too), and they aren't a country even today.

Nice that you know so much about the history of Kosovo-Metohija. This means you know that after it was taken from us in 1389, we got it back eventually. After you Nazis took it in 45, we got it back. We'll get it back from you Nazis again. Maybe not in your lifetime because you're in the twilight, but hopefully in your grandchildren's!

irini

pre 9 godina

@ Grobar1

Zdravo brat! Yes, I know that Mark is not a Serb and I know that Serbs know history, but what these Albos don't know is that we couldn't care less about their opinion in Greece! They come on Greek forums and tell us "if you recognize Kosovo we will not support FYORM"! What a pathetic way of thinking. Do they actually think we will feel sorry if they say things against us? We will take it as a compliment. So no don't worry, no matter what they say about us, about our country, about our people, about our history, the answer in Greece is one: Kosovo and Metohija is Serbia. Greeks love Serbs. Take care of yourself in windy Chicago!

Maybe its time to talk

pre 9 godina

Perhaps that’s why NATO bombed Kosovo indiscriminately as the US could not see the Albos as worthwhile except for cannon fodder.
(sj, 10 December 2014 09:03)
You and Christina need to get together as she thinks that NATO bombed only Serbia and left the Albanians alone. She also contradicts you in that she says the west has not invested anything in Serbia only in Kosovo.

Willi Pfaff

pre 9 godina

Enough with the BS.
Insulting your citizens' intelligence isn't going to be good for you.
Even the ones with blinkers on can surely see what it's going to take to get into EU.
Peggy, Dec 10th

Fully agree, they have to stop lying to their own people, but I have little hope they will. They will go on spinning all kinds of stories, and will go on the way they have in the past. A referendum like you suggested a while ago would finally put an end to it, but they do not have the courage to do that. At the same time there should also be a referendum held in Kosovo, because the people living there are one's who are really affected. This entire discussion is done without even asking what people effected by all this Bla-Bla want, and that is the citizens of Serbia and Kosovo. The amendment to the serbian constitution which makes Kosovo part of Serbia was smuggled into it by Kustonica at the very last moment, and can also be taken out the same way. What counts is what the people want.

icj1

pre 9 godina

So has the IMF and World Bank and where has that got the Albos? Nowhere.
(sj, 10 December 2014 08:58)

Wery wise words, as always. Hopefully the most patriotic of Serbs will also agree that membership is international organizations alone does not get a country to anywhere...

mina

pre 9 godina

@ Mark

"And yet the only facts that matter are that you Greeks cannot set foot in N.Cyprus and Serbs in Kosovo. "

You are right Mark, that's exactly the point. Greeks cannot set foot in Northern Cyprus (NC), though Turkey is the only country that recognizes NC. What makes you think Albanians will be able to set foot in KosMet, given that Serbia and 75 more countries refuse to recognize Kosovo? NC is not independent unless we say it is and we will never say it is. KosMet is not independent unless Serbia says so and Serbia will never say so. It's not about being an internet warrior or any other warrior, it's all about diplomacy now; all the countries on the planet that had or have or could have similar problems with the problem that Serbia has in KosMet will never recognize KosMet, it's that simple. The only ones who will suffer from this are the people who live in KosMet, because you have no idea how it's like to not be internationally recognized. This is why the Turks in NC beg us to recognize them. And because of the fact that we can't set foot in NC, we will never recognize them. So they can keep begging for ever, that's not our problem, that's their problem.

irini

pre 9 godina

@ Rocky

"The fact of the matter is Serbia has & cannot do or say anything in regards to Kosova and her people!"

If that was the case dude, you wouldn't be here, would you? Your presence here proves that you are worried about Serbia's next move. You are anxious to get some idea about what Serbs think, what they say to each other about the EU and Kosovo. If you were sooo relaxed and confident as you want us to believe you wouldn't waste your time writing in your enemy's web site. So go entertain someone else with your lies. Greetings from Greece, "Rocky"!

irini

pre 9 godina

Mark, ironically the Turks in Cyprus, your Islamic brothers, refuse to recognize Kosovo!! Do you know why? Because they know very well how it's like to be "independent" without full international recognition. THAT is the fact. If you were so confident about Kosovo and Metohija's future and you considered your "independence" as a fact, you wouldn't be here now chatting with Serbs. The first day I saw the comments I thought the site was an Albanian site.So many Albanians in here! Then I realized how scary you must be. Well, you should, ask the Turks in Cyprus for advice. Hahaha. Greetings from Greece, Mark!

sj

pre 9 godina

You and Christina need to get together as she thinks that NATO bombed only Serbia and left the Albanians alone. She also contradicts you in that she says the west has not invested anything in Serbia only in Kosovo.
(Maybe its time to talk, 10 December 2014 14:27)
Kosovo is part of Serbia and yes NATO did bomb Serbia, but they dropped bombs indiscriminately in Kosovo. The west did not care what they hit because they could blame Slobo. They did not give a fig about the Albos then or now.

icj1

pre 9 godina

The only ones who will suffer from this are the people who live in KosMet, because you have no idea how it's like to not be internationally recognized.
(mina, 11 December 2014 13:32)

Yeah, sure, that's a lot of suffering but fortunately the suffering is less now when they are internationally recognized by 108 countries vs when they were part of Serbia and were internationally recognized by 1 country.

Aleksandar

pre 9 godina

Statements made by Serbian officials seem to always be contradicting one another. President says EU asks recognition of Kosovo, PM says no. One day they say Russia is Serbia's historical ally and a very friendly country, the next day they say they will join sanctions later when they join the EU and they just need Russia for gas security and for economic reason.... I don't know what to make of them and their contradicting statements. One day they say they are on the EU/western side on most issues, the next day you see Nikolic meeting with presidents of Belarus and North Korea. Seriously?

Peggy

pre 9 godina

Enough with the BS.
Insulting your citizens' intelligence isn't going to be good for you.
Even the ones with blinkers on can surely see what it's going to take to get into EU. Maybe they are ready to pay the price but I would think that most are not.

mina

pre 9 godina

@ icj1

"but fortunately the suffering is less now"

You think they are better off now? Even if that's the case, it won't be the case for too long and Albanians know that, that's why they bitch everybody about their "independence". Look how many Albanians are here, if they weren't worried about their future they wouldn't spend a minute reading and writing in a Serbian site. Their future is pretty much predetermined, because international independence cannot be achieved unless everybody recognizes independence. And as long as Serbia refuses, 70-80 countries will keep refusing, so Albanians can kiss goodbye their bright and happy future. That's always the case in situations like this.